Dave Portnoy Demands Apology Between Nemesis Employees | PICK EM - Week 13

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Four additional terms and responsible gaming resources, cdkng.co/audio, limited time offer. Of course, alright boys, week 13 we're here, we're one week away from the last week of the season. That's sad. It is sad, but you have college ball. We go serious in Chicago. What? Nothing, you keep saying that, like, it's fine. Well, you, you were at a game out of those last week at noon, right? And I, and I lucked out in the sense that definitely caught the fourth quarter of Indiana, uh, state pen and Texas tech, BYU turned into a blowout, so did okay. Like, having slipped in terms of paying attention on what's going on. I know. I forgot. We got a tau fucking service here. We're all 75. 75 fucking percent. I'm certain I think I'm not going to win right out of the year with some of this reaction to me. I just said you have college ball and then you flipped out. Why are you here? What? Why are you here in Chicago in this office right now? Alabama plays tonight. Oh college ball. Yeah. Where? United center. Book the flight, book the hotel, a couple months ago. Illinois. I got more Europeans in their front court than Brighton Beach. All right. You already used that line, but he hasn't heard it. Okay. I was. I don't know what Brighton Beach is. It's a big like big Russian area in New York. You gotta talk into the mic. I am trying. You rattled me. Rattled me. I'm not. How am I rattling you? Because that's the narrative. It's, I'm, you say, and then all the law and then all the lost boys come down the thing. He, oh, you don't pay like. Who's the lost boys? Just whatever. All the fucking people that love to fucking run with narratives. Who's the lost boys? Who's the lost boys? I don't know. Like look at the fucking timeline. I don't have. I don't even know whatever. I don't have an army. What are you talking about? Just saying. They love the fucking narrative. Like I've slipped. Like at any point. Have I slipped? No, I don't. They say what I'm recovering. What I'm blogging on Saturdays. I clutch it. Your favorite band, the fucking guy is doing it with the marching band on a Friday night. Granted, you were out at dinner, but you didn't get to eggnet. You didn't see that? Like I'm on top of it. I don't care. And then college basketball starts and then, but here we go. Like who's the marching band? In the US. Yeah, I don't really care. They played Tusk, which they played Tusk all the time. Oh, so. What? It was. Are you losing your models? That's not like a what are you coming at me for? Are you losing your marbles? There we get in there. Hey, are you losing your marbles? I got in there. What's happening? Nothing. Just it's, yeah, I mean, it's a, you know, I just said, like, are you starting to forget where you put things like headphones? Because I saw something and I know maybe now is not the time. Have you seen this? Dan? No. And I don't know that this is the time. It's gotta be the time. It's not now when he always making apology. I hate to do it. Oh, I asked me to go opposite, but go ahead. That he doesn't owe an apology. Let's see the footage. Okay. Okay, yeah. Let's watch the footage. Can we play the footage for Dan? Is that cable? Do I have to send it to him? He poked all day though. That's the point. Can we see it? Okay, here we go. Shut the fuck up. Shut up. He lost his headphones. You lost your headphones? Meek found them. He was very rude to meek. We go. He's yours. They were just sitting by the door up front. I don't know. Are they actually yours? They were sitting right by the door. Oh, no. How long do you think you're sitting? I don't think he took any problem. He's sitting on it. He's sitting on it. He's sitting on it. He's sitting on it. He's sitting on it is the question I'd like to know. You probably lost him in the first place. Meek, can you see meek right now? Oh, he's here. So I had nothing to do with this. I think there's no reason to go. What I was about to say. You need an apology. I'm happy that meek's here so that I, you know what can accuse me of saying this by his back. What I was about to say is I have now spent 11 Sundays in the gambling cave with meek. I like meek. He is one of the most annoying guys we've got. Bar none. End of story point blank. One of the most annoying guys we've got. And it's not like a, like, oh, I fucking hate him. He just, he goes. He goes and he doesn't stop. Dan, if you lose your headphones in the elevator shaft. Yeah, that was bad. That one. And he's fine. And he finds the headphones and brings them back. Yeah. And you get mad and can't even be like, thank you. So I said, replay it again. I said, thanks, Phil. Play it. That's what I definitely said that. Did you? Play it. Everyone be silent. All right. Then play it. Play it. We got ease yours. So they were just sitting by the door out front. Yeah. Thanks, Phil. Oh, also, there is a thanks Phil. Let's be on. They were sitting by the door out front. Are you being mean to him in other ways? Make you. I think you're muted. Yeah, you need you got to get on mute. Tell mommy to turn up the Wi-Fi. I was like, all right. I was on Bosco talk. I didn't want to interrupt anything. I found them at the front, at the front door. I think I go missing my angle. Cause I walked up the stairs. Oh, no, we saw it. We saw your angles all there. So was that it. All right. I didn't think you apologize. I saw you like being like, how, how long did he plant them there? And then like, you accuse me of planting them. Yes. I said, how long you think he was sitting on that? I literally just walked down because I was right. Yeah. As it turns out, it wasn't that long. Sounds like he was being nice. Right. Yeah. It was as simple as that. So to set, yeah, to say they were right by the front door, like, like they were in plain sight, though, they were literally in plain sight. Okay. So what, but what do you argue about? He saved your headphones. Yeah, I gave them back into the gallon thing. And you still seemed upset in the video. So all I was saying is I think a genuine, like, thanks Phil for finding my headphones. Thank you. Would go a long way. I did say thanks. I took a breath to let all of that negative energy decompose. And then did say thanks. I think that's probably you have a meek, but when you walked out, when you walked out the last video, if you're walking out, you know, well, yeah, he poked all day. Yeah, because so I say, "Poke, I offered you my headphones and you screamed at me." That was nice of him. Phil, do you think it's fair to say because like I, listen, I kind of get where you're coming from because he can poke and he is annoying, but also you can kind of just ignore him. Like, I just ignore him if he bothers me on a Sunday. Everybody's got a limit. I understand, but like, he, I feel, we had an interaction on Sunday. I yelled at you and then I ignored you for like, I took a break. He doesn't poke you as much as he pokes me. He pokes everyone. No, he's not. Come on, Dan. I, he pokes everyone. Come on. Oh, thanks for being here, Hank. I do poke everyone. I'm not gonna. He poked me right now. What, what, what, did we play the Clip of Rico? You ain't immediately just jump on Rico's side every time, Hank? He's going for writer in the year. Wait, all right. So did we apply, he's gonna get it. Hank's right. Hank is right. Meek, meek, pokes fill the most. I agree with that. I agree with that. I poke who the most. You poke Rico the most. He's right. Hank is right. You don't, I don't get it as much. Yeah. Save his headphones. Thank you. I did save his headphones. Thank you. Thank you. That's all. I can't see what's been played of Rico screaming at him. Was that played? It was Rico telling him to shut the fuck up and then it skipped a Phil's POV of finding the headphones and then it was Rico like being silent and grabbing him. Okay. We played the entire exchange. Yeah. Right. So do you have a meek fill problem? Yeah. Okay. And what's the, what's the solution here? I don't know. I took my deep breath. I did say thanks. I'm not screaming now. Yeah, you're handling it well. It's just, it's, it's tough because we've said this and don't get me wrong. I was the guy who swung at two bad pitches and I got two strikes on my account. Well, at all times, you, you, you had an immaculate inning. You struck out swung at nine straight and the ending was over. Granted you, twice went to a different company twice for sure. So two strikes, the generous you, you without it out. But when people know, you know, that somebody already got a tech earlier in the game and then it's, that's smart. Yeah. Somebody's got five follows in the NBA four fouls in college. You get the ball in the post. I agree. Yeah. Get that fifth. Get him out of the game. I got to learn how to not foul. I'm doing okay with it. He's dealing Rams. He's trying to get dramatic. Rico's going to just spit on Phil and get kicked out of the get a saucy. No, no chance. I get spit on me by Rico. We can't have as we can. Do you think you're annoying? Uh, uh, there's certain level. Yeah. Okay. I actually don't know who I am. I think you want me to be myself. Yeah. Yeah. No, I have no problem with these. As long as you know that you're annoying. I don't think that he's a troll. Yeah. He's an internet troll. I scream. He's good guy. Yeah. I screamed on on Sunday day because he was like, it was, we were maybe like four minutes into the Sunday games and he's like, Kaelin Williams has seven passing yards through the, through the first four minutes. I said, shut the fuck up, meek and let the game actually happen. He just updates with stats like the first fucking two seconds of the game. But then we were fine after that. Yeah. All right. There's one for you. Yeah. Thank you for coming on me. I didn't, I didn't know the apologies in the video. I just saw the end of it. So I'm glad that that's a big step, Bosco. You calm now. You, you said, thank you. Hopefully you meant it. Uh, and we can move on. I'm not still not sure what it means. I think you'd rather would have been not find the headphones honestly. Is that true? You want to go, you want to, you want to punch him in the face? I think you'd be a lot happier right now. I'll find it not find those headphones. No, I needed the headphones. But to say they were right by the door is deceptive in the sense that what does that have to do with anything? What is that word by the door? No, no, that's the staircase in the back. Well, I'm confused why the logistics of where he found the matter because like if you, if you're like, where are they? You're tearing things up. You're looking an asshole now like right on the desk. It's like, you know, that was pretty easy to feel like you didn't need to get all bent out of shape. Like, I'm going to end up at a front door though. Like, did you just like shuffle them out your bag or something? Probably was pulling his phone out of his pocket. Yeah, it probably makes it fall out. I just don't understand the logistics of what you're getting mad at. Meekville found you headphones. Meekville brought them back. You accused him of sitting on the information, I guess, or sitting on the headphones as though there was some diabolical plan. Yeah. Well, I didn't. I just asked. I said, how long do you think he was sitting? No, as it turns out, when you said that, he wasn't. He was gone and you said, how long you think he was sitting on those two people around you? They're like, and I think, uh, most are like, I think he just brought them back to you. Yeah. Which is what made me think it was a genuine thank you because you're like, thank you. He leaves. How long do you think you're sitting on those four? Right. Yeah. Thanks for finding them. Okay. Welcome. Okay. That's all. There we go. Big happy. I feel we'll see you Sunday. See you Sunday. Be fun. Yep. I won't be annoying. You will. I will be. Yeah. There's nothing you can do about it. You are who you are. Yeah. He said he want me. I listen. That was a very self-aware comment. Yes. You want me to be who I am annoying, but you want me to be me and I'm annoying. And yeah, no, I can deal with someone who knows that they're annoying where it's just like, dude, you're being annoying right now. You can say that to them. Yeah. And I think you can say that. Why don't you say that to them? Say what? You're being annoying. Yeah, it's just like you're being annoying. I love how he's like choosing his words. Like he said, he's gonna run a conversation right now in. Like, no, like, no, like, no, there's a way. And imagine a lawyer as a whispering in his ear before he speaks. I do not recall. Right. I plead the fifth. We'll make use this against me. How is me going to use this? It's just long, slow answers. Like, you got a meek fill problem. You got time. Big time. He's your number one right now. Yeah. I mean, you was already fall out for last week of, you know, the whole talking out of school, having people be like, hey, you know, you're walking down Madison Square Garden concourse and you're saying, hey, kill meek fill. No, see that. Yeah. Have you gotten everyone back together? Have the writers got a couple of messages being like, hey, let's tighten it up. They're all good. That was that guy trying to become famous. Right. It's this and you've seen it. And then people did their detective work. He even said it to him. He was like, I was in the skip out. He's looking to be famous. Right. But, but I don't want to rehash history. But when we give you an opportunity to distance yourself from him, you're like, well, he's a big time rider. He's one of my guys. We might call on him later. Well, yeah, I mean, you don't want to hurt the feelings of fans. Right. Like they're, you know, they're part of something. But yeah, some of these guys want to be why my two most trusted guys don't want the spotlight. Yeah. I mean, you guys have the same philosophy. Like Dom doesn't want to be on camera. Yeah. But he's an employee, not a person I just saw on the what? My top got my top. I don't think I've ever been to Austin. Like, Hey, we got to attack this person. I didn't see that guy. That's proving my point. This guy. This guy wants the spotlight. Okay. He wants to be a star. No, no, but you can't compare like Dan's guy and my guy. No, I'm saying I'm having those guys to my top two guys. Yes. But your top two guys have created a committed war crimes. I assume. No. And I think they're over. They are. Right. But yeah, then they're not out. They never recommended war crimes. I find that very hard to believe. Pretty upset in the guy. Wait, who's your second top guy? I don't want to. Sully's one, right? Yeah. Well, I love Sully. He's definitely committed a couple of crimes. But that's also like what's a crime against someone who deserved it. Is that a crime? Well, yeah, that would be one of those moral questions you have to ask. Well, who's the other top guy? Can you write it down? Yeah. He's going to write down for me. I'm just curious. I don't know. That's how you know it's good. No, you know, well, that means they're good. Yeah, they're good at their job. They're like, they're an assassin to get in. Oh, I mean, what can I say what's after the comma there? And then you're saying. Oh, yeah, but that's the you're missing the, um, no, I think you missed the character. Okay, but it is. No, no, no, no, no, no, that's the character. That's a reference to that character. Do you know who that is? I know I'm the show. Yeah, I understand that. But you're saying like these guys are not doing anything in the criminal mastermind is in his, his bio. Also, saying Sally doesn't want the spotlight. He's on cameo. Oh, we don't, we don't talk about that. We don't like that. Is he? Wait a minute. What? So, Mr. Bruno does cameos for riders. He did a, he was in a tough spot. What do you mean he does cameos for riders? What does that mean? What does that mean? It was a bandaid. What is that? I don't know what that means. That's all I'm going to say is a bandaid. I have no idea what any of this me. How we can't have him be out there like that. Why don't you take what a rider like people are buying cameos from solely soprano because he's a lieutenant. In the in the rider army what planet are we on? Yeah, is he the gym is he the bad spot? For long time for Rico Charges. He's okay. No, he's okay now. Hey, if he's getting a bad Who's I am so he's soprano cameos. How much were they was he was he was he was going for volume. I don't think he was 99 cents is it on is his profile on there? I think he's that no, I think it was a jam it was a true band. Can you find us one of these please, but who the hell is paying for these? I need to see one of these I Have to watch one of these take a look I have to see a hundred dollars a hundred dollars All right, so maybe he wasn't going for volume exactly the pep talk I need it from Sully quick turn around time with a detailed and personal message highly recommend who wrote what is his profiles? What is this profile say Rico, this is something that like what is his profiles I understand, but why didn't he reach out to me because now we get now We're in a spot where I think it's just a stock the stock bio We are glossing over the fact that anybody would pay to get a Sully soprano Cameo based on him being a lieutenant in the rider army. What what are we talking about as riders? He's mocking us, and we could have settled this if he needed a couple hundred bucks. We could have figured out a way to get it to him Yeah, what are we doing? I know you can't be out on cameos. Yeah, I didn't want to stress you out Yeah, but this is a situation This bio is right hand man to the one and only Rico, Bosco in a jam and need a little help from your loyal supporters of the cause watch Bastille industries on YouTube doc. I wish he had reached out to me He's in a jam. Why not just do go fun me. I know the riders would have I think that might be illegal to go fun me No, no, definitely not there's a there's a Cubs fan who every he pops up every now and then bleach your leaf He's he he'll just be like, oh, yeah, it comes or play in Japan. I want people to pay for it Okay, it's like it's a crazy shit like that. You could do what I want to go for me insane, and by the way really If you're being honest, and you have the rider army and one of the guys has financial hardship. That's how you turn a guy Yeah, that's what I'm saying Dave huge that that is a problem Rico should have seen that problem and come to me and been like Hey, we have a we have a problem here because someone could It's like a college you did you like in debt. That's how you that's how you end up with the mob That's how you end up throwing correct right correct someone from the new dude crew comes walking down the street with a thousand bucks Like oh, so he huh, I can't see you here. I got a thousand bucks for you to flip like we can't let that happen You got a set you got it you got it. You got to solve that inside, right? I got build a camp leave. I would buy that we got to find one. Can we can we find one do you have one I don't have one There's only been two it looks like so he's only done two reviews two reviews Can you tax them asking if you could send this one that he's done? I'll see what I could they go We need we need it. I need it I'm looking at it right now. He's got his face right out there the riders are in trouble. Yeah, I might have one. Okay. Oh you have one That's crazy. Oh here we go here we go All right, you just don't know how the Mike's work here give it to me. All right All right, I don't know how you don't know how Mike's work This message is for Brandon he's in a ski master like to know solid voice for riding well-branded Brandon Brandon. It's very simple Whatever the big man says goes, right? So right away. I know You know the wife makes plans We're out on a Saturday night. We got some way to be I get attacks from the big man saying hey I need you to be by the laptop tonight. Guess what honey? We're canceling sorry. I got to go home You know you're on your way to a ballgame. You get a text from the big man Hey, you know, we got some guys we got to deal with guess what I got to turn around I got to go back home. I got to tend to that he comes first no matter what he says jump how high If he says buy the merch, I got to buy 10 pay as a merch if he says watch my show. I got to watch the show 10 times That's the key the key is Whatever the big man says goes It's a cameo. That's a part. I love it. Yeah, it's crazy. And I'm looking at his tweet In debt bad with some bad people put me on cameo day help save my life I mean, yeah urgency move. I mean you've said, you know Black Friday two weeks ago Yeah, I Think he got to the bridge. I think he's okay This is crazy. I love it though the fact is like a real world thing Yeah, like that. This is real like somebody would look at this and be like no way. It's real But it is and that's the craziest part of this little world of ours Right what is it like coaster knows that this thing of ours like yeah and you there's like real world like Rico cuts off all Mentions of the dude and like ends the war there in terms of like hey, we're just not even gonna talk about him Sully then can't earn on the street on the Twitter streets because he can't tweet about to do now He's got to go to selling drugs doing cameos This is all related you got to get back to wartime. Yeah, we got to fight someone the guys are restless This is what happens. I can't be out there earning. I know they don't like the IS what is it? USO they don't like the U.S. like a just USO party They want to be a war. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, we got to get it We got to get shit together here and meek fill is number one. Yeah, so we're gonna take him down or what? No, I'll take him down, but like if I saw you if I see tonight at the Illinois Alabama game and I see you have it a popcorn Hey, we're gonna take him down. Yeah, no problem. Are you gonna see Nate oats tonight? Depends on the outcome. What do you mean? Stick around things go bad. So you're so you're gonna if you win you'll you'll stick around Yeah, have you talked to him if you texted that we got a game the way. Oh, okay Sounds like you're not gonna see Nate oats. We'll see what's the spread three and a half Illinois Camped in Chicago, but I did it before I left Okay, what else we got anything else We have to we still have to review all the pick-up numbers at the end of the year see if they're up or down right You're very quick to say they were down. Well, yeah, I think that we're I think doing a victory lap half way through the season. It's crazy You can't not a victory, okay, well, you were doing a victory lap halfway through the season You got to finish the season keep it together keep it together. Yeah, face we have face We're gonna keep it together. Oh man Are you pounding? No Don't don't does anyone else disagree with that that like you can't be like halfway through the season be like hey We're up this much knowing that we have more season to go. You got to keep the pedal to the metal, right? No, you think we just got it. Oh, yeah every week. We can be like we're a playoff team right now Yeah, but I the season ended today that numbers were up, but most seasons don't the seat don't the numbers go down as the season goes along So couldn't you say couldn't you say why do we only have two ads today? It's a good question. I don't know Can we get Sully maybe selling some stuff. Yeah, I Would do I do so yet No, we just did do one. We just did get my cameo. 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All right now back to the episode All right, Jack you got anything? No, I'm square. All right, so we'll talk some college ball We got any big thoughts Rico about the rankings or anything you want to talk about. Yeah, what is it? Yoramack, what's his last name? The new guy. - Big 12 commission. - No, I tweeted it. The new guy for the college football club. - You're a check. - You're a check, you're a check. So his quote was that Notre Dame has two losses to teams in the top. He said, when you look at Notre Dame Miami, Notre Dame has two losses to teams in the top 13. And Miami has two losses to unranked teams. But Miami beat Notre Dame. They're doing this weird thing. Now, it all gets hairy like he did. And then he did say if they do get in the same tier, which I don't know how they're not in the same tier right now, he said the head-to-head wouldn't matter more. So it doesn't matter now, but if they get close, then it does matter. And then the other weird part is that ultimately, though, if you do ask me on the eye test, who's better? I think Notre Dame's better than Miami. But I do think wins head-to-head should matter. So the whole thing is convoluted. But it was very evident that the rewarding teams and Felica said that too in his tweet. It's very evident that-- Or Felica went to Miami as a Miami homer. They're rewarding teams for losses instead of wins. So you see that in a couple of spots. Yeah, I mean, Miami-- they've moved. I actually think that the rankings for the Miami, like I was saying last night, I'm part of my take. It was almost like when they first came out the rankings, they screwed it up. And they put it Miami in 18 and Notre Dame in 10. And then they've just snuck them back up. They're in the playoff right now. Obviously, they have to win the ACC. But in terms of the bracket right now, if it went like this, can they get the ACC championship? I think it's just-- They have to win the ACC championship. Yeah, I'm not saying-- Yeah, it's probably hard, but yeah. I mean, the only thing I'll say about that, the committee is shown they don't really care. Because if you go and look at Florida State, when the quarterback gets hurt, and they're undefeated or whatever they were, and they didn't make it. Yeah, that was horseshit. But I agree that was horseshit. But in this case, I actually-- and I'm usually a head to head guy-- but the way this thing set up is a different sport, granted. But the Patriots lost to the Raiders, week one. Like the Raiders better than Patriot? No, like the teams change. So if you have the same number of losses, like Notre Dame, I would put in over Miami. Yeah, but that's a team right now. I think that's a little apples and oranges in fairness. So that you're judged truly by your record in NFL. They go straight standings. It's an arbitrary thing in college. They do go by rankings. Yeah, I think the games have to matter. I think it's stupid to play the games. I think when you play has to matter. Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, that's what people are saying. It was 140 degrees, and it was week one. It was cars first start, so it's like-- Yeah, no, of course. I also think there's-- the one thing you're Texas thing, which I don't think Texas is going to get in. Yeah, like Rowland. I like Rowland the people. Yeah, but I do think that there's argument to be made like the committee should come out and say, hey, Texas isn't in, but it has nothing to do with their loss to Ohio State. It's because they lost to a really bad Florida team. Because what I don't want to have happen is, Texas could conceivably say to themselves, hey, if we just didn't schedule Ohio State, we would have been in the playoffs this year. Yeah, and they also see those games. The way you lose, and then you get hammered at Georgia. I think if that's a close game versus Georgia, it's a very different conversation right now. And the way that they've played, they went totally-- Totally. --time against Mississippi State. Totally, it looked like trash. It looked like absolute trash. Yeah, I have no luck. Now, they come out and they beat A&M by 40. You maybe that'll complicate it. Yep, changes, thanks, for sure. OK, anything else? Highs and feels like it's going to be between Mendoza and San. I think Jeremiah loves deserves to be in New York. Depth of those first two games just sunk them. Definitely deserves to be in New York. And that's a big thing, being in a high-- I mean, it sucks going there and knowing you have no shot to win, but your high has been finalized. That's a massive thing. You know, weekend in New York, legends, guys, you probably grew up watching. Yeah, I'd love to be there. Dave, how are you feeling about Michigan? Actually, let's just get to the games, because I have Michigan on there, because it's actually not a great card. Because-- I didn't dig deep again on this card. These cards I've hated, and I got smashed last weekend. Absolutely smashed. But you still get four or five big ones that really really-- like USC, Oregon, kind of in a stand-alone spot. I have no problem, by the way, with the SEC doing this, because it's like you get-- it's a trade-off for the first couple of weeks of season that they do play SEC games. All right. Have you-- yeah, you know what, back to getting in front of the horse and for the cat? You don't want to put-- You do this read, I guess stomach issues. What were you just saying? I was going to ask you a question. You don't want to put-- but I was making sure I got the-- quote, right. How does it go? You don't put the-- No one knows what you're talking about. All right, you don't put the carriage in front of the horse, or you don't put the horse in front of the carriage. What's that? I think it's the horse in front-- don't put the horse in front of the carriage. I think that's right. But the horse is in front of the carriage, whatever. Is what it is. Have you started looking at Big Ten tie breakers? No. Because I know you're confident in that game, obviously. But I don't want to put the car before the horse. Put the car before the horse. That would make more sense. I don't-- Car before the horse. Car before the horse, because the horse goes before the car. That makes sense. I don't want to win the tie breaker. I kind of agree with you on that. I think it's better to not play the-- Because they say-- If they beat Ohio State, they're in. And then just leave it that and go into the playoffs. Right. I don't know what happens if they beat Ohio State, and then lose in the Big Ten Championship, like, badly or something. Yeah, I don't think you can fault them for that. Oregon's also still in that mix of one loss. It's very interesting. We're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. It's Fran from Chicks in the Office. The weather is getting cooler. And Abercrombie's fall drop has everything I need for the season. The best-selling A&F Sloan Taylor Pant is a closet staple for me. I'm always wearing it to work events. Happy hour, anytime I want to be a bit more dressed up. And the viral Dillon dress is easy, one-and-done perfection. But my fall uniform will always be denom pair with a Henley sweater, a bra-free top. It's comfortable, effortless. It just never fails. Find your fall capsule at Abercrombie, shop in the app online, and in stores. All right, now back to the episode. Michigan minus 14 against Maryland, total 46 and 1/2. I know there's a lot of, I've seen Nate tweeting about it. They're going to keep loxley at Maryland. I think Maryland's kind of a dead dog team here at the end of this, just kind of getting to the finish line. I worry about you guys laying so many, 'cause you haven't looked great in a lot of spots. Last week was a true, like that was a disaster. Just get out of there. And when you knew that was going to be a dog fight, I lean Michigan here, 'cause I just don't want it. Yeah, I just don't want to take Maryland. I'm hoping you, I think you guys can use a pounding. It'd be nice to see a boss go when I so with you with it. You know, I hear he took the ball, he ran the whole show. It's good show. There's going to be a one man, one man show right there. Never, never, never cut anybody out. Thank you. I disagree with Michigan. I mean, they turned the ball over five times. Five times still won the game, like they dominated that game. Two misfield goals, a couple of side penalties. Really, yeah, I mean, it's very hard to win when you lose the turnover battle, obviously five, nothing. I like them here. I don't love them. I certainly didn't like them against Northwestern. I knew that would be a dog fight. I could see this one. Again, it's a tough card. I do have them. For some reason, I'm like, I think they're going to maybe put together four quarters, which maybe of them won't. No, they really haven't done it the whole season. They're going to need them, obviously, against Ohio. But listen, everyone's been throwing stones at Michigan all season. And if they win this game, what do they go to nine and two? Eight and two and heading into Ohio State with quite literally everything in front of them. So that's a pretty good job with the rookie quarterback, freshman quarterback, new players. I think they're the youngest team in the big 10 or close to it. So let's see what we got. I love the backup running back that came in. I thought he looked excellent. So I'm not worried about not having jage justice haids back. But in the other guys banged up, but listen, everything in front of us, they're going to win the game. Hopefully they cover. What did you take, Rico? I took Michigan because I think a lot. There's a part of Maryland guys that are just trying to get to the finish line here. Locksley's a dead fish coach, like, no, then they said they're bringing them back. That's what I'm saying. But can you love that? That's the opposite. That's the opposite. Yeah, here's the term wrong. Wisconsin won our only big 10 win of the season was the week that they said they're bringing Luke fickleback. Yeah, and I like this guy though. I don't know, but I just know that they, I didn't think they were going to bring Luke fickleback. They said they bring Luke fickleback. We beat that's fair. Watch fair. Yeah, it's just the wrong. You got to like the knowledge. We're not going to we're not going to hold your response. Well, I mean, you know, it would have been if he was like fired and still coaching. That's what that would have been. Yeah, I Michigan. I'm going to take the over in this game. That Michigan Northwestern game was crazy to watch. Like five turnovers and all those misfuogles and they were Michigan was trying to do everything to just give the game Northwestern. Because Michigan was moving the ball Northwestern couldn't. Those are two of the cleanest interceptions you'll ever see. Ever, ever like it was like that play worked in the first half. And it was like he just decides he's going to throw it before even looks to what's happening. He throws at a hundred miles per hour. [BLANK_AUDIO] And it looked like there was stick them on the north, on the northwest on like it almost was like right into their face mask. I mean, those were crisp, clean interceptions. We got to put it together. You can't, you can't have those predetermined reads, but maybe we found that guy, Marsha. I mean, he had 9,000 catches. You get him and McCully, maybe I don't know, I don't know how banged up there saying these Ohio state wide receivers are, they're not playing this week, right? They're two guys. I don't know, I know they are being dumped, I know Carl, Carl T and Jeremiah Smith, they're probably not playing. They're probably not playing this week. Rest them for Michigan. So I, listen, we just got to get through this week, don't stop our toe and set it up for the season. I'm so happy you won that game against the northwestern though, I want their title fight. Yeah, we want title fight. I think we want a title. You want a title fight, but it's, I wanted, what's not, they're not, it's not a title fight. They're not, they're not playing for a championship, big Michigan can't go to the big 10 championship. I think they can. I think they can. How? They'd have one loss. They lost Oklahoma. What is the tiebreakers? I haven't looked at. I don't want to go to the big time. I've said that. I don't want to go to the championship game. If it is us, I do not want. That's one of those rare things like, all right, you beat Ohio state or in the playoffs. Let's rest up. Get ready for the playoffs. That's what would be my preference to say you won the big 10 title. I don't really in this new era, it's beat Ohio state, go to the playoffs. You accomplish those two. Good by me. Yeah. It's like Georgia right now. Georgia's sitting in the best spot possible. They're not only in a buy, but Texas A&M and BAM are most likely going to play in the SCC championship game. They don't have to play it. They could get a buy. That's, that's the best. Yeah. That's, that's where the playoffs have really kind of devalued, right? Georgia would, any other year, Georgia would be like, yes, we have to go win this. Yeah. Right. And, and like, you know, it doesn't change like an Auburn, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio state. You got to win those games, but the moving on beyond that, I don't care. Yeah. Only bad things can happen. I'm more, you're right, title fight works this, I'm more, I wanted to be that Dave steaks are similar to Ohio state steaks, obviously, Ohio state wouldn't be out of the playoffs if they lose to Michigan, but Michigan having their season ended if they lose to Ohio state would feel like, yeah, Ohio state less than we already know what those guys are going to do. If they win, they're going to brag, if they lose, they're going to say, it doesn't matter. Just like they did last. You'll never do that. Not in a million years, Danny. I'd never, ever, ever. Not in a million years. Never, ever, ever. I don't know. Million years. Never, ever, ever. Damn, I don't know. Million years. Damn it. My life. The zoo and, uh, Oklahoma, Oklahoma is by seven and a half over under 41 and a half. Oklahoma controls their destiny at this point, if they win out, they should be in the playoff. I hate this game. Yeah. Off a big win. The zoo off a big win. Walker told me Missouri to kill Mississippi state. They did. I don't, I don't, I, I hate this game. Oklahoma hate it, though. I'm going to take the over again. It should have went over the last week, which one? Alabama, Oklahoma. They scored a lot. Like, it was a low total. I know. Yeah. The tears got to kind of do it all. But yeah. I'm going to take the over as well. 41 and a half. All right. Uh, the other big game in the ACC. We got pit at Georgia Tech, Georgia Tech minus two and a half over under 62 and a half. Turns out Narjouzi was telling the truth. He did. Yes. Give a fuck. Give a fuck. I wish I had just taken him. That is the word. Yeah. Yeah. That was a mistake because I was. Yeah. I was forcing like throws into coverage, like I didn't like that game. I had nothing. I hated the board. So it was forcing games and they all lost, which one did you end up taking him as a real Oklahoma? I took Oklahoma. Okay. You're right in that town. I was doing nice to Jack. It didn't sound like you gave a pick. So I was. I had it. You're doing a nice for Jack. Are you going to the game with Jack tonight? Orals in my face. No. Who are you going with? Take. Oh, nice. You doing a nice for Jack? Yeah. We tracked the picks. Yeah. I was trying to. I was trying to. It didn't sound like you set a pick. So you wrote the note. And then after the show, you're going to give it home. You're going to slip it to him. Yeah. It's like, here's a night. A little nice for you. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little nice for you. There's a little gift for you, Dave, took Oklahoma. I heard him. Take Oklahoma. I didn't hear it. Listen, there's been some hearing things I hear it like he didn't hear the apology or the thank you. I didn't hear Oklahoma. He didn't hear it. You're going to miss something. We're all. Everyone's. We're all human. We're all human. Yeah. Exactly. After all. Okay. Georgia Tech Pit. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. Put a challenge out to Nardouzi that if he didn't care about Notre Dame, he better go with this game. We're taking pit two and a half. It's taking pit two and a half. Yeah. Taking pit two and a half. I'm going to ride with you. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'll take the over. Yeah. I don't hate that. I mean, Notre Dame's defense has gotten good. I told you guys. Really good. No name is good. I said I like them as a national title, but I'm not. I can't do any as long as Michigan's still in it. A lot. Yeah. Okay. Second last game. USC Oregon. Oregon minus nine and a half. Over under 59 and a half. I'm very excited. Down to nine and a half. What? I had seen ten and a half all week. Hold on. I'm going to check. It's a really right now. Nine. Okay. I checked right before we. I. Yeah. That makes sense. The last thing I do before we go live on pickamas. I look at all the lot. Makes sense. Do you want ten and a half? No. I'm not going to. I can't enter that. I see you. I wrote it down. You have USC ten and a half. You're going against the duckies? I haven't looked phenomenal. I think they win the game close. You can know your team well. So are you taking USC nine and a half or ten? Plus the nine and a half or ten. You get by a point? You haven't such a good show. Nine and a half. Hey. It hammered better the year. But I got to buy four points. I didn't buy four points. I was trying to get a point. Football numbers matter. I like USC. I think it's going to be close as well. Yep. I'll take USC plus ten and a half. You got a good number. Yeah, you got a great number. No, I do think it's going to be close. I'll take USC plus nine and a half. Although the way we're talking. Yeah, I know. Flip it. Give me Oregon. That game was crazy against Iowa. Iowa got screwed. They got screwed. I think that kid had his foot down. I think there were some, I mean, there were definitely. I think there were some, I think there were some, I mean, there were definitely some face masks they missed. They can rarely look pretty pumped. But their season, like Oregon can still slip up, right? No, I don't think so. Not necessarily. You don't think so? Who would, they lose this game? You think they're out? Yes. Who are they hanging their hats on? What's their best win? The best win in the state? I mean, I bet. Well, they knew because they lose it. I will. They lose this. USC's ahead of them. Yeah, true. True. Yeah. No, but I was seeing there could be, it could be a four-bid leak. What if Michigan beats Ohio State? Then, then you have problems. I think, yes. I think Oregon's in, in not a lot of wiggle room. They're going to be fighting. If Michigan beats Ohio here, USC beats Oregon. The Big Ten's fighting for five teams. Yeah, no, I agree with that. I, I, I, I was thinking we could potentially give four teams if Ohio State beats Michigan. Oh, by the way, something I will say is that I do give Oregon credit for their win against Penn State. Like, I don't think when people are like, well, Penn State sucks. They beat Penn State when Penn State was still a top 10 team. I agree. National chips, they killed that program. They should get credit for that. You can't get backwards. Yeah. Well, but that, that almost in a weird way is the same Miami Nord Amelogic in a weird twisted way. It's like you can't, and it works. You, you can't switch it after. You can't like, if you're going to say that win doesn't count, then you have to say Miami beating Notre Dame counts. Because like, they beat them when they were both there. You can't retroactively go back and look. I, I think this should count. Right. I know. Yeah. Have you seen some of the hypotheticals, David, what people are rooting for? USC and who's day? Well, what? I don't know who they is. I don't know either. I'll click a video sometimes and they're just, they're who's talking in the video. People interested in football. I don't know. It's like, oh, it's like people on this way. No, I think it's like, I think it's guys like us. Guys who follow have shows this and that. Like, you'll click something, like, you'll put a provocative like thing, and then you'll click it and be like, like, or my interesting hypothetical. Are you clicking on like spam ads? Keep an eye on it. Whatever. I don't know. Either way. So what did they say? They're rooting for somebody's rooting for like, put a pen in this. Like, if USC and Oklahoma face off in a playoff, and Lincoln Riley's got to go back to Oklahoma. So you're going to have far in advance? Yeah. Also, this is one of those situations I think you're lying to us on who day is. It's someone that you just don't want to give free publicity to that you're saying. That's truthfully not the answer. I watched a lot. Who is this? I don't remember the name, Dan. What do you want me to say? What do you want? Let me ask you a question. Hank, you watch a lot of TikToks. Do you remember when you're like, "No, he doesn't." - You don't? - No, yeah, I do, I do. For this exercise, I do. - Okay. Do you remember every guy's darting? - What's going on in that? - I was gonna go to Zupi or Jack. Jack, you watch a lot of TikToks? - Yes, yeah. - Do you feel that you recall the username or the show of every time when you're then telling the story back to somebody? - Not the username, but like Dan's kind of right. Like you would see the face. I mean, now if it's a random ass person, sure, it's just a random like TikTok or that then gets they. - Yeah. - That's a lot of weight for one person. Like anything you see online, they become like, "Well, they're talking about this." - I guess. - I think there's gotta be levels to it. Like we gotta, it's gotta be like, we know this person. I thought you were talking about like, a Josh Pete. - No, I really do. - Someone knew-- - That's good. - Your algorithm's called football though. I mean, he's locked in. - That's true, good point, Hank. - Despite what they say, something. - Who's they? Some people forgot, some people forgot Michigan a little sort of world. - Hey, Rico Moscow, not locked in on college football. (laughing) - I'm just like making TikToks. Just to recon say that he's not. He's only watching college basketball and trying to get his algorithm. - You forgot Michigan lost all Oklahoma. - What? - Yeah, you did. - What are you talking about? - Earlier in this conversation. - No, I just right, there are two losses. One of them was out of conference. I, yeah, you're right. I forgot that they can still get to the Big Ten Championship game. - I mean, that was like a one second, like, oh yeah, they lost Oklahoma. That's cut. Yeah. - All right, I'm just saying, you know. All right. - What's the mother does that? - Listen, my mother does that all the time. They say, they say, they say, this isn't style. Like, she'll give me a presence. Like, who's they? No answer. My dad does it. They say, they should be, like, when I say that-- - They have to be, so I always ask, who's they? - Yeah. They should be a lot of people. - They should be a source when you just say, they're saying, who's, who's they? - I want to know who they are. - And when you answer, I have no idea who they are. - I really don't. (laughs) - You shouldn't be able to quote, they, unless you know who they are. That should be a new rule. No quoting, they, when you don't know who they are. - I definitely saw the video. But yeah, some people are tweeting about it. - Because, and I'm not saying, you're such a cryptic guy, in general. - And this is not-- - They're like, I thought it was maybe some one specific college football expert was saying it, but we don't like 'em because of association. - Struthfully, I truthfully didn't know who it was. - You're a real cryptic guy. - Trying to watch a lot of videos. - Okay, we all got USC. - No, I switched Oregon. - Oh, you switched Oregon. - Yep. - Oh, so Mississippi's not on the card this week. I sent this to you in the, in the thing. Have you seen, so what's going on with Lane? - What do you mean? - That he's, they're trying to float. There's reports that they're trying to float. They're giving him a deadline. - Who's that? - The school. He has a deadline that he has to sign the extension. - He said that was not true. - I know. - But then, so the guy from Fox, Aaron Torres, he is a friend. He goes, I know the media has tried to convince you in this era, Ole Miss is as good a job as Florida. If that's true, why have Mike Elko, Kirk's igniting, Matt Rool and Jeff Brahm all agreed to extensions, but not Lane Kiffin. Kiffin is keeping his options open for a reason. Kinda makes sense. - Well, yeah, I mean, I think he's actually considering him. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But I mean, that's also Lane Kiffin. - Yeah. Brandon thinks that this is all for show, and then he's gonna announce that he's coming back the week ahead. - Yeah, I can see that. I mean, my question is, LSU's flying over here there. LSU is trying and saying they don't wanna pay Kelly because they don't have the money to pay Kelly. How they gonna pay Kelly and Kiffin? - Yeah, I don't know. - Do you see the buy-out that I did that for? - Yeah, it's all great, but have you seen the pay-out that it was nine million is all they had to pay? - Yeah. - What did the Virginia Tech Coach? - Yeah, Franklyn. - James Franklin, yeah, I was a deal, right? I was arguing with people because like obviously, a lot of people online are gonna be like, hey, if you get a $50 million buy-out, just go fuck off, and my point was, James Franklin is a type of guy who he doesn't get a $50 million buy-out unless he has a competitive, I wanna be that guy, and you don't just turn that off, and he's young, so money's on everything to him. He wants to coach. - Yeah, I know that, he makes you respect him more. - Yeah, absolutely. - Now, part of the contract was that he had to, like get the money, he had to aggressively try to get another job, he could have probably faked it, snaked it, but yeah, and I think that's a great fit, by the way. - I do too, that's his base. - Yeah, the only thing I would not understand is there a wiggle room, and this is just maybe a contract thing, is there a wiggle room where he could have taken a little less money from Virginia Tech and been like, hey, put this in the NIL. - But they had that big story not too long ago that they raised a shit ton of money in their budget front NIL. - Yeah, and I also assume the contract probably has clauses where you can't just do a fake contract. Virginia Tech can't hire him for a million dollars. But they budgeted NIL into their program, almost positive. - Good for them. - He could do well, Virginia Tech. - I think I'm gonna have to write a NIL check to get back in with Wisconsin, by the way. - Oh. - How much? - How much? - Probably like 200, 250. - Doesn't that not even move the needle for them though? - I mean, I don't know, I just, I don't know how else I'm gonna get back in. - It's that bad. - Why, I don't think there's that bad 250K's not gonna- - What, let me tell you this. - You can give it 250K's not good. (laughing) - It's not good. I know that. - It's not that too bad so much that I'd tell you what, Danny. - Oh, man. - Yeah, I don't know, I haven't decided if I- - So if it's not, if it's that, not good, 250K's not good. - No, I think that would, I think, I think that- - Money talks. - Yeah, court, court of mille definitely gets you back in. - Well, it's like, hey, that helps something. I mean, roster's, what are the, what are the rosters right now? Like, a championship rosters 20-mail total. - Yeah. - So if Wisconsin- - What if they did it, what if they just took the check and sent it back? You know how sometimes charities like don't like who's giving it? And they're like, nope, we don't accept this money. (laughing) - I would respect that, I would respect the plug out of that. I haven't decided though yet because I do want them to do, like, that's the thing is, there's not- - He's invested. - Obviously, I said that, you know, everyone should've been fired. Once, once it's decided that fickle's coming back and no one's getting fired. I'm not gonna be the dude who's sitting here being like, well, you still should fire him. I'm like, get back in the boat, let's go. I want them to do well. - Yeah, you're rooting for success. - Right, like, there's no, there's no partner in one. - Rooting wisdom now, it does no good. - Right. - And I'll be even rooting more for success if I have to cut a check. - Yeah, yeah. - What do you got it to? - Quarter. - I don't know, I haven't figured it out yet. - I still think, and it's what I said about Michigan and it hasn't really worked. Like, where are the position where you should be able to do NIL the correct way where it's like, all right, well, I'll do it. And I want like a player to be like part of P&T or something, that's good work. - Yeah. - Hey, pick 'em listeners. We're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. - Being lucky, you should be. Meet the new lucky one, Sweetie, for Miss Peaches. The vodka drink that's positively doing good, made with real tea and real vodka, non-carbonated, the 100 calories. And here's the scoop. 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If you're right and checks for players, like 250 to Wisconsin people. - Hey, do NIL in Division 3? - Just college athletics. 25 grand, I'm gonna get a couple of linebackers. - 25 grand, and you're gonna be the 85 Bears. - 25 Grinch, get the best player in Division 3 football. - All of them, across the roster. - Right. - And imagine how I would do that. - All right, I'm gonna, you know what? - I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this. You tell, you, you, you talk to Nichols. - Okay. - And you get a price for what could buy Nichols a national championship. And I will, I will consider it. And I'll talk to my good friend, Dave Portnoy, because it would be a very funny, if it's not that expensive, it would be one of the funniest storylines and pick 'em history. - How about it? - If we, if we both threw it in 50k, and bought Nichols a national championship. - Or, or, who's your rival? - Endocott. - The conference has moved around a ton now, and we've been so bad. I'd still say yeah. Curry, Endocott. - Okay, so we could also maybe. - Yeah, Curry, Endocott. - I want that. - Curry, Endocott went across the top of that conference. Is Tufts in your conference? - That would actually, wait, now that I'm thinking about it, like imagine, Dave, imagine if we did this, - West or New England, now it's university, but it used to be called. - Two fishing, three football. We just, like, you got like a power broker in that conference. - Yeah, like no, like, you played it like fantasy football almost where it's like, we got 10 rich guys, and we're like, all, everyone pick a team and see who wins. can win. But yeah, get a number. It's like the cartels. And they eat. Yeah, I could do. See what I could do. What are you calling? Oh, you're calling someone right now. Yeah. Okay. Who? Finance guy out there. Not the coach. All right. So everyone, everyone know that Nichols, we might be paying. Why do you have a finance guy at Nichols? Well, still friends with those guys, advance many raises money. He raises money. He's the guy. Tough luck because you can't bet on division three football. I don't know. So it's not like no one can really say anything. I'm the what's the guy from Texas Tech? Cody? No. Yeah, Cody. Yeah. So I just become that for Nichols. We're Nichols. I'd be, I'd be. I'd finally get in the athletic Hall of Fame. Let's talk. Let's talk. All right. Last game. What a, it would be a very funny waiting for that call. Wait, you would get in the athletic Hall of Fame or I would get in the athletic Hall of Fame. Well, I would be the one if I paid the money. No, I think Bosco. He went there and he's the connection. Yeah. Not working. Okay. How does that work? Oh, you're, are you the guy right in the checker? I'm the guy. I would see him up. What? Yeah. You, oh, he wants you to write it to him. So he get right now. Yeah. So if he could take a little off the top, I'm not taking, he wants to hire him money and he'll take care of the rest. That's I'm not taking. Oh, you're a busy guy again. I don't want to bother you. I don't want to call you. You just get me this money and I'll just handle everything else. I see how that works. No, get me a connection with with, I got to worry about Wisconsin first and then we'll take care of it. That would be a hell of a story. It would be very funny. It just depends on the price. I hope it's like, where is Nichols based? Dudley Mass. I hope it's like, I'd only be like, yeah, maybe a mill. No, I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Are you out of your mind? I'm saying if you want to win no questions asked and you're getting guys from all over the country. I'm million it. I was thinking like I was like a 50 K 15. Yeah, 50,000. Yeah. Yeah. I was willing to pay 50. There's not one guy on that team who's getting a penny. Right. To wish and still, yeah, 40, 50 grand. Yeah, but scholarships, right? No. Oh, you don't even need school. Like you just got to get the bet. Like nobody's paying the academic scholarships. But yeah, I mean, it's you got nobody's paying in this conference. You just give a guy like, hey, I'm going to get you dominoes a couple of times a week and they're like, all right, I'm in. Yeah, part of my cheat stick. Get ready to learn part of my cheat stick, buddy. Right. That might just do it itself. There's just a team. A team fueled on part of my cheat stick and still a blue coffee goes all the way. All right, last game. Dave, you're going to be there. P.Y.U. It's Sinsi. Sinsi. I'll let you apologize first, Dan. What? For what? It's a cool donation. No, I still think they're frauds. I will not be apologizing. He's just better the week last week. The only one I have absolute them all. They're going to win this game. They're playoff team. I'll take P.Y.U. And, uh, oh, are they? Yeah. If they get smoked by Texas Tech again, they're going to go to the playoff. They should. Okay. If your only two losses are against a legit national championship team, you should go. Yes. Okay. Yeah, I'm not going to change my opinion. I'm going to take Sinsi in this game. I may go to a high school football game on Friday night. I'm not sure. There's some gigantic Ohio football game that they had to move. They had to move it from their stadiums where the Bengals play. That's awesome. Playoff game. Yeah. It's around that time. Yeah. So Ohio is a perfect. Are we going to go? I don't know. I have a call after this to figure it out. I mean, we have that dinner, Jeff Rubies, which is an unbelievable steakhouse like I want to see this football game. So I may try to do that. That's. Yeah. That would be sick. Okay. So Ohio State's high school, like he does like TikToks on Ohio State, Ohio State, high school football, and they do like a million views. Yeah, they read it's insane. Well, they're one of the block. They're one of the states that always plays to kick off the season. In August, it's Ohio versus California. It's Ohio versus Texas. Yeah. Ohio is big. Florida, obviously, California. Ohio. Ohio is the football big. Hey, they got great team. You're good. Nationally is what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I'm going to give that to Jackie. I'm going to take. You don't miss a beat. That's a good callback joke. As much as I know, people say like, oh, he gets he's still throwing. He's still throwing. I'm saying, if anyone wants to doubt, like, you know, the haters and the, and the esterist people like, they don't got it anymore. He's still quick as a whip. It's good to know you're on that. You're on that. That's your algorithm too. That's definitely his algorithm. Because he's in there doing it. No, I need you to know like we want the big three winning as many titles as possible. Okay. So I'm going to take, I'm going to take, I'm going to take the over. Are you going to be Dave? Have you had Skyline chili before? I think I have. It's not. It's not. I know. That's what everyone says. I think I have had it, but maybe not because I can't remember. Cincinnati is a very underrated city. I will say that. I like the pizza. Has been not rolling in not a lot of great places from what I've heard. But I got to do pizza. I want to go to that game and get in Friday morning. So a lot to do. Yeah. I do like since that is a city. I think it's pretty awesome. I've spent at least like two or three trips there. Harambe. All right. The thriller. What do you think? What do you got? What? I've come around on him. I think he was misunderstood. Harambe? Yeah. All right. What do you got in the game? Oh, I'm going to take BYU. Okay. Dave, you obviously are cool. By the way, how good is BYU basketball? They're fine. What was this? What happened with that you called? Yeah, I had you caught. I wasn't watching the game. And because I was watching football, you kind of had minus six. They were up like 15. And then I look and it's like, I know you lost the bet. They only won by two. What happened? They just kept pressing late. I only had highlights. I'll be honest too. I was Texas Georgia. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Love that. You stayed locked in the test Georgia till the end. No, that game was early when it was still a game. Yeah. Are you going to be participating in Feesweek, Dave? Yeah. I made dabble. Yeah. You got to. You got to. I made dab. It helps because I'm going to be back in mass. I'm going to my folks. My parents house. So I'll be in a legal state. So that makes a big difference. You got to. Yeah. You guys are playing that at four o'clock. I think all campus. On Friday. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm excited. I think Wisconsin's decent this year. We just haven't played anyone. Right. This is where you find it out. Yeah. This is when we'll find it out. Okay. Um, cards. Rico, would you like to go? Yeah. So now I'm worried about Ohio State with the injuries. But I think Rutgers that bad. I'll take Ohio State minus the 31 and a half. First half minus 18 and a half. NC State plus four and a half. Who do they play in Florida State? Okay. At home. Pretty sure. I see States at home. Okay. South Florida minus 21 and a half against UAB and the over 69 and a half. USC plus nine and a half. Utah minus 17 and a half against case state. Utah is just is is rolling people. I think case dates dead. Uh, and I got what's the number in that game? 17 and a half. Did it move? No. I was just wondering. And then I got one more. All right. I got a couple. Uh, already. I got. Uh, jam. You minus 14. They are kind of getting screwed right now. And I think they're going to keep putting the hammer down. They're playing Washington State who plays the weirdest schedule in the world. Washington State's not bad, though. Uh, Army minus 10 ECU minus two and a half. Tennessee minus four. I feel like that was Florida's last stand. That might be stupid of me. Penn State Nebraska over 43 and a half. And then I will save my mortal, which I think Ebo has all but wrapped it up. What is the mortals? No, no, you're one bell. Oh, we're both one. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Just have confidence. Ebo's eight and four. Oh, all right. That U and OV game was so bad. And as a commissioner of the Bob Diaco trophy and standings, you should make a ruling right now. If we tie with Ebo, he loses because he lost Wisconsin beat his mortal outright. No, I won't do that. We're just going to get if we tie with Ebo because we're going to go all the way to Comprehensive and then you have to pick one bottle for both one playoff. So there's still actually what? There's two, three. There's five picks left. Yeah, I just want to. Okay. Okay, Dave, your card. Kansas plus four and a half against Iowa State. They're dig deep for a lot of these picks. USC plus nine and a half Oregon. Can talk you plus nine and a half against Vandy. I like Vandy. I'm a Vandy guy. I think this will be close. They'll win. I can't read what that says. So I'll just ignore it. Utah agree minus 17 and a half at home. Can't state Michigan minus 13 and a half Maryland. I like Wisconsin. Wisconsin is playing sneaky. Better. I like that plus. Yeah, plus seven and a half at home against Illinois. I have Florida plus three and a half at home against Tennessee. BYU. Are they minus a plus two and a half against Cincinnati minus two and a half. I got BYU and then Western Kentucky plus 23 and a half against LSU. Okay. Mortals. Hank. Washington State plus 14. You're going to get jamming. I like that. Knowing PFT has been trolling Hank about Drake May a lot. So this is good. That's how we operate. It's good. This is good. 300 yard one kind of shocked me. come from the stats left and right. All right. No soup. You want a host? No. Vandy nine and a half against Kentucky. Okay. I'm going to take Ohio State Rutgers under 54 and a half and Ebo has SMU Louisville under 52 and a half. Okay. Basco San Diego State minus 11. They were San Jose State. They last week were. No, they did they win last week? Yeah, they won. They got killed by why that's what they'd be looking at group like they'd be floating around. All right. I'm going to take Iowa minus 16 and a half at home against Michigan. I always been the bad luck team of the year. They are a couple plays away from being a playoff team. I think that's my card. Yeah. I think this is going to be one of those. Hey, senior day go crazy. Just fucking run it up and they're they are a really good team. I mean that like they were a playaway from beating Oregon a playaway from beating USC. You know, they played Iowa. Iowa State early in the season lost by three. That's in all time. Like if you look at Iowa's entire season, it's a what could have been. So I think that you'll get a good effort from them and try to finish the season strong. Dave, you're. So again, I haven't liked the card. Nothing's jumped out. I mean, it's the worst when you go down. It's like I got nothing. I could go through the card again again. I'm going to take Kentucky plus nine and a half against Vandy, the opposite of Zupi. I've been right on Vandy every game this year. I haven't missed on a side when I've been involved with him. I think they're very good. Nobody's reached more Vandy than me. But Kentucky has been frisky at times and still nine and a half points is a lot. So I'm going to take the wild cats. Hey, pick them listeners. We're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners on game day gets sub stacked high at Jersey. Mike's like the number 13 original Italian loaded with meats, cheese and toppings or the number 56 big kahuna cheese steak with grilled steak peppers, onions and mushrooms topped with jalapenos and melty cheese. Get your sub fix on game day and order in store or the Jersey Mike's app. All right. Now back to the episode. Okay. Good show, boys. Great show. Fun show. Also real quick. People getting on and I was kind of making jokes. The Bella check with Jordan cheerleading. I may come to the defense of Jordan. Like I played club baseball after high school. People play like club hockey. She loves it. She loves cheerleading. Like she's a national champ. So she wants to keep cheerleading. So maybe if she didn't have that haircut, I don't know if people are saying anything. I'm just more shocked that there is that. Yes, shocking. It is. But like I like people play basketball after like they graduate. So if you have interest, there's enough people that'll have an interest. They'll keep it going. Cheerleaders don't get enough respect. It's a very, very difficult athletic sport. Who are they cheering for though? Judges. Okay. It's like the Walt Disney thing. They're cheering for judges. Right. Right. But there also is a way to be a cheerleader when you're an adult. What do you mean? You can cheer for like an NFL. Yeah, but that's different. That's like there's ways to be a baseball player as an adult. Well, not really if you're not good enough. What if she's not good enough? Well, I assume she's good enough. Well, I don't know that that's true. Well, that's disrespectful to Jordan. Well, I know. Those are professional athletes. I think it's a much different time. Cheerleaders for NFL is very. She's very busy. Competitive professional athletes gymnastic. Those, did you watch America's sweetheart on Netflix, Cowboys cheerleaders, a billion girls try out for that team. Well, yeah, that's the Dallas Cowboys. I'm not saying she's gonna be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, but I'm sure she can be a Panthers cheerleader. I don't know. Well, these competitive professional athletes, they're pros. You're pro. Why can't she cheer for UNC? She's running the team. Well, you got to be in college. She can take a class. I got a thumbs down from her. What? I got a DM just a thumbs down. What did you send her? Rattled my cage. That's a big rattle of the cage. What did what did you send her? I didn't send her nothing. I say like they have to get Bella check out of there. I said something to that effect. And then she thumbs down it. Yep. Wait, she thumbs down. Just out of nowhere, emoji thumbs down. Or did she thumbs down a message? She DM me a thumbs down. Oh, no, Dave. Oh, no. Dave. That's like the godfather. Like Luke of Rossi. This was the fishes. I didn't like getting that thumbs down. Oh, no. I was mad. I bet 200 grand on UNC and they look like ass. Oh, no, Dave. They're plus six and a half against who duped this week. I don't want to stay. Bella check does not. I don't know what he's doing when he's coaching. The last game I watched it all. It was so depressing. They had no urgency. They're huddling with like three and a half four minutes down two scores. Then he calls time out with like 20 seconds left with wake at the same. So I'm like, Dave, he's got a retire. Some of you said, yeah, you said watching UNC so frustrated. It's like an alien stole Bella checks brain. She probably thinks you're calling her an alien. No, she was for that. Yeah, it's close. I was not calling her an alien. I don't know that she saw that one because I have other intel that says it was about saying he should retire. I got to watch myself because I had someone reach out from UNC program asking for still blue coffee said I'm a big thing. So I like I would love for Jordan. I got a thumbs down. Yeah, that's tough. Thumbs down means you're out. Thumbs down is not good. Thumbs down is really, really bad. I will say it. I thought it's that it's that it's that met. It's just that guy. I got that Jordan or or or or the Coliseum. You got the Coliseum. Kill him. Yeah, you're done. Yeah, I did like Jordan quote treating popletory. I thought that was very funny. Well, I didn't see she did that. She quote yeah, popletory had like the top 10 most impactful podcasts of Apple podcasts of 2025. And she just quote treated said, you're welcome. That's a great move. That's a great move. Yeah, she's got a big board of what's being said across the internet. I'm sure you're on. Yeah, well, I got thumbs down. I got I you got to understand when I'm betting games, I get emotional. It's like I'm in the game. This is the entire genesis of the angel Reese. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. People think it's that was still one of the funniest things where everyone's like, are you going to say anything about Dave being racist? Like, dude, he fucking lost the bet. That's why he's mad. Yeah, he's pretty transparent about what he's betting on. Yeah. All right. Good show, boys. All right, good show. We'll see you next week. We got a budget next week from Dudley. What? We'll get a number. Oh, yeah, yeah. Good, good, good, good.