DANNY BROWN Talks Diddy, BBWs, 50 Cent

What's the fat as you a girl with a girl? I don't hit some big bitches. What's the biggest? I mean, my 20s, my entire 20s, I was broke and just living couch to couch kind of situation. So, yeah, for a hot plate and a couch, I really one time I hit a bitch so big and we was sleeping in the bed together. Yeah. And like her roommate had came in the room. She didn't even know I was in the room. We just lay next to each other. She didn't even know what the fuck was in there. [Laughing] Yeah, shit, that's crazy. That's not my 20s shit girl, it's not. All right, last episode of the year. Guys, happy new year to all of you. I hope you guys are doing well. I hope you're with your families. I hope you're relaxing. It's been a real wild ride. And thank you for a great year. I mean, should I do the, what I said? Am I going to get inflamed if I play? All right. I just want to say, my life has really changed this year. It was since here and now, okay? This episode, I'm like hungover, I don't really do much, he kind of cares me. But let's get that out of the way. Daddy Brown is a guest. But I was practicing this in the studio and I thought, from an honest, sincere note, like it's been a great year. And I love the guys here. I love you guys, seriously. And I appreciate you guys for the show. It's really cool that people think it's good. It's really cool, actually. It's sick. And our lives have changed. This is so cringe, but I'm going to do it. I don't care, guys. You know what? I learned this year that it's okay to talk about what's in your heart. So I just want to say, I just want to say. Oh, one more. All right, I'm not, I don't, all right. All right. It's not so bad. It's not so bad. All right. Now, I got to fuck. How one of the chords? Oh, it's so easy. I didn't even, okay. And I want to thank you for giving me the best year of my life. It kind of is. I want to thank you for giving me the best year. Oh, one more. 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For $15 off your first order, sparks is a compounded drug product. Compounded drugs are permitted to be prescribed under federal law but are not FDA approved and do not undergo FDA safety effectiveness or manufacturing review. For full safety information, go to ro.co/safetyinfo. Our next guest is a legendary artist, famously from Detroit. His new album comes out on the 7th of November 2025. Everyone, please welcome Danny Brown. Danny Brown. What's up, brother? Are you dressed so cool, dude? Thank you. Is this like your New York look or you look like that in Austin, Texas too? I mean, it's hot out there. I know. So I got to pick my poison. Do you like layering kind of like an autumn, autumn little kind of fits? Yeah. I mean, I plan for it. I like buying clothes preseason. Exactly. In the summer I'm shopping for fall. And you put all like a slouchy Saturday morning and you go to the farmer's market with your bitch. No, I don't know why I said it that way. When I'm home, I'm really more like just because it's so hot. So whatever you can wear just to not be hot. Yeah, I guess so. They're too big. They're big over there in Texas. The people. I mean, eat a lot. Have you seen the portions? Yeah, it's disgusting. But if you came here, you'd be a tall gentleman. You're probably, we were like, 5'11". I'm? Six foot? Six. One, two, three, maybe? Oh, in New York. I mean, I'm a Wikipedia to say I'm six, three, so we'll let's say. Let's go. Yeah. I'm just saying you're like a New York six, eight then. I'm just saying you're like, it's a good feeling. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, Danny DeVito is basically the normal high in New York. The common New York thing. Yeah. Yeah. You see a lot of them guys like dating like 11s and you're like, how does that work? Money. I was at the Zoran Mom Donny election party last night. Really? Yeah, I'm hungover for this. I mean, it's pretty lame to. I'm not jealous of you. Some things happen. Some things happen. Some things happen last night. Mm-hmm. And I can't say because it's kind of a secret. Sounds like a great time. I'm just not talking to AOC again. Yeah. All right. I'm. She. She know what you did. You know what you did. Do you feel like. Do you know that Zoran was a rapper? Mm-hmm. He was a. He was a rapper. It's kind of. Do you feel like representations knowing that there's a rapper mayor of New York? No. No. That has nothing. I mean, rapper. That's smoke with 50, too. You know that. Really? Yeah, 50 is talking shit. You said that because he's going to raise it by taxes or something. See, I've been standing away from social media so I don't know who was going on. I just learned all this in the last, uh, what, 30 minutes before the interview. Okay. No, but yeah, famously, uh, you, you were nearly signed by, uh, G-Unip, I can. I mean, um, Tony Yeo took a liking to my music, so he was helping me out. But, but there was something about your pants. I mean, they didn't like, I mean, 50 didn't like the no-word skinny jeans. Really? Yeah. You said, "Why are your pants so tight?" Yeah. I didn't say any of them. So you're on team ZO-RON in this beef right now. 'Cause they're not on no team, 'cause we don't know in two years. They are two of the finest rappers out right now. I don't trust politicians, really. So in like two years, we don't know what we got to see, we got to see his work. Yeah, yeah. You got to show him proof first. I can't. I think he's, I met him, and I think he's just pretty, like, he's just a millennial. Mm-hmm. He likes soccer. 'Cause I remember when Detroit had a real young mayor, who wanted me to kill Patrick. And, oh, yeah. He got, he got some charges, right? Yeah. What was the scandal called? I mean, it was a lot. I feel like it was like just misusing funds, type of situation. If Michigan, let's say Michigan had a governor race, right? And for the Republicans, you had Kid Rock. And Democrats, you had M&M, who do you think we would? M&M. M&M. Yeah. Yeah. Would it be close, you think, or? I don't know. Yeah, I think I would love for M&M, too. Yeah, I think I'd vote for M. Do you have a relationship with Marshall? I met him. Yeah. He really is so good at rapping. It's really like, but sometimes it's like, you're rapping too good. I mean, when M first came around, it wasn't really too many white rappers. So it was like he had the really extra, extra to really be, you know? And I feel like he was just a fan. I don't know. He'd care more about the genre than, you know, the average rapper, I would say. Yeah. Did you think there would be more opportunities for white rappers? It's a lot of opportunities for white rappers. That's right. I didn't know that. Why would I be? Were you part of that, with the eight mile thing? Was that-- I mean, you'll think? I wasn't, I'm not from eight mile. But did you do it? Did you go to the mom's spaghetti kind of battle? It's kind of a place? No, that was kind of like before my time. Yeah. Kind of. That was like, right, that was like the generation before me. So I would have loved to be a part of that world. Yeah. When I came around, it was more like open mic situations, but they were kind of like, it was kind of like dying. Yeah. Were people doing stand-up at the open mic? No, it was just rap. It was just rap. Yeah. That would be so far. It used to be sick though. Yeah. If someone was just like talking about Tinder in the middle of it and getting boozed. I mean, you would get booed if you was trash. Did you ever go end-to-eight mile mode where you're like, my live in a trailer? I don't believe that it has a bunch of thousands. No, but you say all the things embarrassing about yourself. Oh, I think I do. All the time. Yeah. I just think that's self-awareness. You were inspired by B Rabbit. To do that was he kind of like a-- Yeah. I think him inspired a lot. Yeah. But far as like that, I think, um, yeah, I guess. So he never upped you as like a newer Detroit rapper? I mean, I will say, I mean, at the time we met, I was still deep into like my alcoholism and still getting, you know, f*** up and all that, so I mean, him sober. So he went around that, you know? Yeah. And I wasn't, you know, I was still having fun. So it wasn't. So I totally understand that. Did you drink a fifth of vodka and would you dare me to drive to the other cell? That would be funny. No. You were on the, like, a verge of signing for G.U. I wouldn't say I'm the verge. I mean, 50 started to-- I mean, you know, I would make songs that Yale created, and he had playing for me. He eventually started to take a liking to me, you know? But I still-- I just was-- I was too old. I kind of feel like. So I was already stuck in my ways of what I wanted to be as an artist, and he wanted to mold me into something else. Was there ever a moment where you were going to just like-- they wanted you to just fucking sell out? I wouldn't say you could sell out. It's just more what they thought would be more pillion to what the masses of hip hop or the average hip hop family like. Did they pitch you on like an outfit or like a-- No, no. I mean, he gave me some clothes one time, like just where it is. Back of your pants? There was some big ass, some pants with like some gold $100 bills on the back pocket. Why did you put on the pants? I would do it. Put on the damn pants. It was a little bit, then I was getting no bitches. It's real. And I was like, hold on. Let me get these skinny jeans back. Do you conceive of like the fact that like in a hip hop today, like there was primarily just a coastal thing happening, and it took a while for like, I guess first it was Atlanta, maybe a little Houston, maybe a little-- I mean, but that's just where like the bigger companies was at. So if you were somebody that was in the me of West, if you wasn't traveling to New York or LA to get a record deal, you wasn't really doing them. But I still think it was like a lot of things still bubbling like Memphis, been doing like 36, real long time. That's been 90s. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Have you ever listened to those early DJs all the time? Yeah, they're amazing. Yeah, little fly. Lord-infamous. Oh, that's shit. I like coops the n***a. But the music just sounds like it's coming out of a shoe box. It sounds like it's coming out of hell, actually. I mean, that's the-- It just sounds insane. That's the vibe. It's the best music I think ever. I love that they took to it in Asian countries, and it's like 36 mafia style rap groups and Tokyo and shit. Yeah, they make drifting videos to that shit. Your dad was a house DJ, correct? He hates that. I say that. He just DJed for fun. Right. But DJ house music, that was his style. DJ was techno, right? Just car was house. And the cool thing is, it's bigger in Europe, basically. Those artists are bigger in Europe than they are in the States, basically. In Germany. In Germany, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why is there? I think it's always just like Birdlin. Birdlin just always took to like-- like you have been a treasurer? I'm never going to go. Wow. That's a fool me once situation. Oh. A lot going back. When did you like-- when's the first time you felt like you popped it, like, or-- I mean, it was a-- it was a year I was playing itself by Southwest. And you know, I was just doing the normal shows, like, in the biggest show at the time, was like Fader Fort. And Rafael Sadeep couldn't make his flight. And so they needed to just feel the spot. And, you know, I was just starting to get an aiming, it was bubbling, so they had me to come feel the spot. And, you know, I did great at the show. I started to see, like, my social media started to go crazy. I was getting game and followers, and then maybe, like, a year later, I was on the cover of the Fader. So that was, like, my moment of life. Right. Yeah. It sounds like an old story, right? Like, there was a castle. It was a castle on John New Carson, and then I had a big set-- I had a great set. It's kind of like-- there's something like-- Yeah, yeah. There's something sweet about it, you know? Yeah. 'Cause it was like-- it was just like-- I had my moment, I was preparing. Yeah. And I killed it. And so, yeah, so then to make sure I was, like, headlining Fader Fort. We had a great idea for a document, or I know your managers here. Mm-hmm. You want to pitch your manager on what our idea was? Yeah. We're going to go back to my motherland, which is the Philippines. We're going to go to the Philippines. We're going to connect with the Wakanda kind of, like, retracing the ancestors. I want to find out who spear my uncle. Someone speared him, like Bill Goldberg's son? Yeah. Like, no. I'm talking with an actual spear. No, duh. Who did that? We got to go find out. That's what the documentary about. Oh, so this is more like a murder mystery. This is a murder. He was crime. Murder mystery, true crime. Paul Netflix, right now. What are you doing? Niggas will still get in trouble. He's on his phone right now. Who are you texting? Netflix. He's bored. I heard Netflix don't pay nobody knows of. What? Netflix ain't paying nobody, so. I know. It's not true. Not. Go to Toobie, man. Toobie thing? I think so. Yeah, yeah. Toobie? Who did you look at as, like, your kind of influences? Like, what was the thing that kind of inspired you to get to get started making music? I mean, I knew I wanted to rap the very first time I heard LL Cool J. I can say my favorite rapper was Nas growing up. Elmatic? Yeah. And then, you know, Wu Tang and then, you know, of course, like I had a West Coast phase, Snoop, and Deferro and all that. But I think my biggest influence is a UK rapper, Gizzy Rascal. He's the best. Yeah, he's the best. He's the best. He's the goal. Have you met him before? Yes. Is he cool? At Utah, yeah. He's like, um, dude, how classy is that? Yes. Check it out, dude. It's like dawn. Yeah. I'm hungover. I'm Don Draver. Dude, I can't believe I'm hungover from a politics party. I gotta tell you. I would have to be drunk to go to that shit. There was, of course, you had a famous incident once on stage. Mm-hmm. Pretty cool. I wouldn't say so. Now that I look back on it, kind of-- I mean, you were-- Yeah, you were probably-- I was in my 30s. You were in your 30s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I would have been doing that kind of shit. Yeah. How old were you? In my 30s. How old in your 30s? I can't remember. I was on a lot of Molly. You could only run for president at 35. So that's pretty-- No, I think I was prior to before 35. OK, so you were in that-- Like, 30, 30. Come on. Maybe about 30, 30s. Yeah, yeah. 33. So you can't even be the president, yet. Yeah. You can get your jokes like that. 30s is still yelling, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in retrospective, it's like-- I mean, come on. But it's not like the worst thing of the world. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to-- I mean, yes, it's a little-- Oh, I like to forget it. Yeah, I don't want to bring it up. It's probably annoying because you can't really ask about it. Yeah, I did so long, though. That was like 20 years ago. Yeah, and you were married, too, or rather. No. I think it was a CIA site up. Really, a CIA site you're taking on stage? I think it was-- I think she was playing it. That's so them. That is so CIA. That is so-- I should have known. That is exactly the kind of thing we were doing. They would do that. What is the CIA? It is a conspiracy theory. - Do you have baby boys, baby bros? Are there younger rappers that you look out for? - Um, I mean, there's a lot of younger artists that I connect with, but I wouldn't say look out for her. I mean, if they, no one asked me something about it, so I'm always here to talk, but I can't say I'm not hands on with anybody like that. - Is it like a lone wolf kind of world? Like it's like kind of-- - Ain't comedy like that, too? - I'm the only one that's-- - Comedy definitely some lone wolf, backstab, but with rap music, it's a little more communal. - Really? - Yeah. - Like you can help each other. - Who's your best friend at rap? - Best friend at rap? - I would say I have best friends because, you know what that is, and I'm, oh, when you getting it, I mean, I don't know. I don't know, like hanging out. - You know as a man, you should have friends, right? - I like, I really like hanging out with Quiddaka, that's my homie. We went to go see weapons. It was a great time. - Was it a good movie? - Hell yeah, I like that shit. - Yeah. - That's nice, you go to a movie with your friend from work. - Yeah, you know, he was an Austin. He's like, you want to go see weapons? I'm like, yeah, I feel good. I want to go on a date. - What's the fat as you go with a girl? - I don't hit some big bitches. - What's the biggest? - I mean, my 20s, my entire 20s, I was broke and just living couch to couch kind of situation. So, yeah, for a hot plate and a couch. - Oh, it's a mess. - Yeah, yeah, I used to be on the phone, chat lines. And the fat bitches, the fat bitches, they used to be sounding good too. - Really? - He'd be like, man, that's bullshit. - I noticed him. - Showed up 300 pounds, like, all right. I was just always just to have a pep, I was just having pep talk with my way while I was on the way over there. And be like, man, I'm mad at man. Whatever it is. - I'm a hitin' it, man. - Yeah. - You just gotta be strong. - I only did it one time. - You know what I'm saying? You just gotta be strong. Get over there. Like, yeah, if I knew, see, you'd be mentally prepared. I remember one time I hit a bitch so big and we was sleepin' in the bed together and like, her roommate had came in the room. She ain't even know I was in the room. She ain't even know what nigga was in ya bitch. (laughing) - Really? - Yeah, shit was crazy. That's what I'm like, yeah, this shit gotta stop. Well, I'm fuckin' bitchin' so big. I got high behind 'em. - You didn't know that it was a two-man situation? - I was hungry that night. She said she was buying pizza. - Really? - Yeah, we, I'm like, man, I'm tired of sleepin' that grandma career. Let me just get a night away. And then it'll make you start to appreciate the grandma career 'cause you'd be like, man, I was hard work. I can't do that every night. (laughing) That was some shit. - It was some heavy lifting. - I mean, you just, you know. - I only did it one time and it would feel like she, every time I've been with a lady, I've been like, she's an idiot. What is she doing? - Yeah. - What a fool. (laughing) Like, imagine your father. And then, but with the bigger one, she was like, she was like, thank you. She was a girl that appreciated me. She made me feel beautiful. - Yeah. - Yeah. - She made me feel beautiful. - They have a purpose. - They have purpose, man. - Yeah, yeah. And it does feel like you've kind of-- - So I don't got no, like, I don't got no type. - Yeah, no type whatsoever. Yeah, it's kind of gay to have a type. - Yeah, I like, I'm moral about a personality. - Come on, but you wouldn't be with some sort of person. - If I hate you, I can't be around you. - Yeah, but if you're somebody that's-- - But if you're somebody that's-- - With the eye and with the pain of the socket, you wouldn't do that if it's a great guy, girl. - I mean, what do you-- - I'm all over. - I'm trying to think about it. Like, if I knew her-- - Just a small hand, but she's like, funny as fuck. - Now for this one, like, toxic Avengers. - Yeah, yeah. - Acid, burn, victor. - Yeah, you know what I'm saying? - And it's no shade. I mean, we could be friends. - Yeah. - Can you be friends with a girl? - I don't think so. - I don't think so, I think. They always fall in love with us. - I try. - They always fall in love with us. And they say things like, you're not there for me, and I'm like, you're not my girlfriend. You're not my girlfriend. - I mean, it's possible, but-- - It's possible. - I just, I think I just wasn't at the right place in my life to be friends with women when I were, 'cause I kind of, now I miss those kind of relationships where you can-- - 'Cause you could like, you could kind of talk to them about different shit that you tell when you're home, but you're like, man, shut your mouth up. - Right, you could be sensitive with it. - Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell. - You need the outside respect. - You need to talk to a bitch about a bitch. - I know, you could like say a little like gay thing once, and then it's kind of, you could be like, I know. - Yeah, yeah. - And they like that. - You could be yourself. (laughing) You go watch reality TV. - Yeah. - You could be like, let's see how-- - 90 day fiance. - Let's see how real these housewives are. - That's my thing, 90 day fiance. - Yeah, yeah, I love that. Do you find that you end up hating the American every time? I think I do every time. - No, because yeah, because I'll be rooting for the scammers. - Yeah, I kind of do that. - African niggas with the fat white bitch. - Yeah, it was the best one. - That's what the Nigerian guy did. The Nigerian guy. And she went to Nigeria for the first time in a night. - She had corn rolls and all that type of show disgusting that woman. (laughing) He's a good man. She's like, and then I saw he had, he had 2,000 other women on his social media, and then she had felt betrayed. - That's some shit right there. - Yeah, and he's wearing the trumpet. He's like-- - But then there's business man, yeah. - Yeah. (laughing) - He moved to it or didn't. She's trying to like make it like, he was just babysitting kids and shit. - Oh, she was one of those. You can't see the roommate on the other side. Kind of like this. - No, she was, she, what I'm talking about was crazy. Mountain. - Really? - It was a mountain. - Really? - Yeah, that was like three or four of them. I'm talking about like the 600 pound type shit. - Really? - Like you see, yes, I'm telling you. - Like they can't leave the house? So how did you-- - She was like, she left the house. (laughing) - So how did you-- - But I'm telling you, it was painful. - I know she used to be in pain. - How did you know that she was offering the pizza high? But she's like, you have to exchange some services. - How did she, that's actually wooed me. - So you're out, where did you see it? Do you remember it like, do you remember the like, the-- - No, she was back in, this was in early 2000. - Okay. - But the day where you can call one of them party lines up on the phone, and it'd be like, it'd just be bitches. You can just, you be listening to profile, it'd be like, I'm at the crib right now, and it's hot and juicy. - Really? - But that's real? - But that's real. - You got to press a number, leave her a message. And then she would leave her message, like just hit my number, then y'all a call or whatever. And then you link up. - Really? - Yeah, she was like, I was just about to order a pizza. I got some weed. I just need some dig. - And she-- - I said, I knew she was a pig when she said, dead dog. (laughing) I'm like, oh, I ain't just sound like a good night. That sounds great. - Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying it was a bad time. I'm just saying-- - I'm not a great time. - I mean, I was, the way I felt about myself the next day when I got back to my grandma-- - Yeah, that's self hatred. - That's self hatred, you didn't hate her. - I was really a same-- - She's a great person. - I was a sh-- and I only was ashamed, 'cause then in the morning, I was like, damn, I need to get some cigarettes. She's like, I didn't even walk to the gas station. I remember we walked to the gas station again. I didn't know I was a nigger. He was pumping his gas and just the way he was looking at me. (laughing) - I just knew it in my heart. - That's something that he was like-- - No, no, no, no, no, I was just like-- - He's like, he called them far enough. - And I tried to be proud. Look at me now, I was like, yeah, I'm with the big bitch. I didn't want to go through that no more. That's how it was. - What about it, sir? - Public perception is everything, man. I wasn't that mature in life, man. - Did you tell-- - I did your grandma, when you came back. - It just was a ghost, then. - I mean, my grandma, if you wanted me at the house for the night, like, damn. - But she was like, your grandma was like, I just go find one of the-- - No, she didn't care, I'm just saying, like, you know, when you-- - She was saying, how was last night? - No, my grandma, she was happy I was gone somewhere. - She was like, tell me all about it. - She was like, I hope he moved in with the bitch. - Really? - Is she still with us, your grandma? - Hell yeah. - What? - How old is she now? - I don't know. - Is she old? - Does she know that you have money now? - I mean. - Or does she still treat you like you're like on the couch? - My grandma was a boss, man. My grandma owned like five houses. - Really? - Me, my money, she probably, like-- - He's still like, got money like that. - Really? - My grandma's a-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Everyone needs to be real money to her. - Yeah, that's right. - My grandma, I will, like, you doing everything to say. - I, like, will not see her for a year, and then I'll see her and she'll be like, you have problems. I'll be like, fuck you, lady. - Mine is-- - My grandma, trust me. - My grandma cuts a lot. - Mine is-- - My Filipino grandma is pretty cool, but she, she's very, very strict, like-- - Is she good at karaoke or no? - No, my grandma, I mean, my grandma been here since the '60s. - Really? - Yeah, she's good at every blue moon. - No, I don't think my grandma, she's good at sewing. - I don't know if that's a Filipino thing. - I mean, that's her job, that's what she always did. - They're unreal, like, very youngsters. - I thought that was always, like, does it look more like a Japan kind of-- - No, no, okay, it's a Japanese word, but the Filipino's really gave it a new meaning. - I know they love it over there and, like, the UK too. - Yeah, but they don't do a Filipino style like that. - I mean, I never was a karaoke guy to be honest. I feel like I'm working for my own songs. - Yeah, I'm working for free at that point. - For me, I feel like-- - It's fun. I've been one time when I was so in chief key. - You were in chief key? - No, I, at the song, I'm a poor, mischief key. - Oh, no, I did, Keshe. - You did? - Keshe and-- - Wait. - He's going down. - I'm yelling. - Timber! - Yeah, I did that. So, man, I say put that on. - Put that on. - Yeah, that's a great karaoke song. - Did you ever meet chief? - Yeah. - He's the best, right? - Yeah, he's amazing. - He's amazing. - He's like a normal guy now, too. Have you seen it? - That's great, 'cause he was just-- - I mean, he was just on drugs when he was 14. - He left L.A., I mean, he left Chicago, you know? - Yeah, yeah. - He spent his whole 20s in L.A. now. - But everyone thought that he was, like, potentially mentally retarded. - I mean, he got S-burgers going in? - Yeah, probably, but that's why the hooks are so good. - I think he said that. - That's why the hooks are so good. But then I saw an interview with him a couple of months ago. He was like, yeah, I just needed to go. We get out of Chicago pretty much for what's happy here in LA. It's like a normal guy. I mean, he's like 39, I think he's like 30. He's like 30, yeah. So he spent his whole 20s in LA. I feel like that was a pivot of time in his life. So yeah, definitely changed him. He's definitely a different person than what he even did if he grew up in Chicago. Yeah, yeah. Was Detroit as crazy as Chicago when you were growing up or no? I mean, I think Chicago just going through a real hard time right now. I feel like every city has those phases of just spiked some crime type shit. But I think Detroit has definitely chilled out from when I was a kid. What was it like growing up? Because it was like post, like, auto boom. I mean, I remember all that shit kind of like going down, you know, and trying to progress. 'Cause my grandma worked for Chrysler. No, so. And I just, but she got hurt on the job. So she had retired real early. She did, yeah. And your parents were there in the auto industry or no? No. No. No, my mom had me-- She did 18, my dad had me at 16. I had four kids about a time when I was 21. Your dad's 60 year, my was 18? Mm-hmm. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Did you respect him for that? I mean, my dad was like, I mean, he was able to do it. Well, he pulled his 18 year old kids all the time. I remember it thought about that. What? Did your dad hurt his hand? Yeah, how you know about that? From all the high fives? Oh, no. [LAUGHTER] No, he did lose a finger though. Oh, nevermind. No, he worked somewhere. Oh, in a factory? Yeah, sometimes shit. Oh, shit. And you're closer with your mother or your father? I would say he's equal. Really? He's equal. I grew up-- I mean, they were together all the way to us about 18. So my pops is in and out at the house. What music do they show you? My dad, he was a super hip-hop fan. Yeah. He was the first person ever. He bought me Wu Tang first CD. I didn't even know what Wu Tang was. Really? Yeah, shit. You're like a cool dad. Yeah, definitely. Like, even like just with-- even like with clothes and shit. Like, my dad would get to Jordan's the first day they came out, whatever new console, video game console was coming out. We'd get it the first day. So you could play it all the goddamn time. So then you had to wait three days for you to even try it out. My dad got-- my dad did that with my NES. Yeah, and you got addicted. My dad was addicted to Madden, man. Yeah, yeah. And I was addicted to Super Mario. I was like, can I play it? And he invented a new hand holder? Oh, shit. Like this? Like this? Yeah. 14-year-old Asian kid. What are you doing? It's like, who's up late? Yeah. Yeah, that kind of shit. Yeah, I got this up. It's really annoying when our dads are kind of trying to do kids stuff, like that. I mean, it was a gift in a curse. Because I was happy to have all the games and shit. Yeah, you know? And then you know, like I said, my pasta's in and out. So sometimes he might be going for like three four days. But then you come back with the coolest gift ever? Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. That's so awesome. Yeah, I know right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you have a cool car? Yeah. What's up in a cool car? And he's like, I'll see you around the way. I think we had a cool karma day ahead. He had to remember the Eddie Bauer Explorer trucks when he first dropped. We had that. We had that. We had that. We weren't Eddie Bauer's shit driving in Eddie Bauer. He had that. Then you know the green one. Yeah. We had the green one. We really had the green one. You remember the tires exploded? The firestone tires? Did they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, shit. It was like the most popular car in America. Then there was like a huge recall. Because the tires-- That's fun. The tires were exploding on the 40th floor. [MUSIC PLAYING] [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] Hey. Listen, I know I'm not who you're looking for. I know I'm not the usual type of girl that gets the guy at the end of the movie. I know I'm definitely not much a girl. But when I saw the words on your website that you made using Squarespace.com, it made me want to be wanted the way that you wanted much a girl to be wanting you. Look, I know I'm a loser. I'm a freak. And I can't imagine why someone like you who could make such an amazing website on Squarespace using their built-in tools like AI-assisted blueprint and search engine optimization. And they're-- I don't know. Oh, scheduling. Yeah, they're scheduling. Could ever want me. But just so you know, if you ever did, I'd love you. I'd love you until-- Yeah, sure. Want to go? Oh. All right. Yeah. Thank you. [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] You never-- you never left your hometown. I've been-- I've been going for four years now. But most people like go to New York or LA, I feel like-- I've had my stance, but I just always felt like I couldn't handle myself. I wasn't disciplined enough to be in LA or New York. You were like with Paris Hilton kind of situation? No, I just knew that I party to heart and Detroit. You know, as you get them winners, you can't do shit, stay in the house, and I work on music. Really? And you know, so I think it was great that I didn't try to lead Detroit too soon because I just went in about to handle it. Do you have like a production partnership that you've maintained, or is it-- do you kind of just-- I think, yeah, I keep a relationship with everybody that I work with in some sense. But I feel like every album, I'm always trying to find a new sound or something to influence me. So it's always good to work with newer people coming up and stuff. I have some stuff I can show you. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about the new album. Like, what was-- what was the new-- you say that you try out different things you see? Yeah. What was like the thought process this time around? I mean, I was just really influenced by, like, what was going on in like the hyper pop break-core scene. Yeah. So I wanted to reach out and work with a lot of those artists. Who produced on it? Oh, my God. Um, underscores. J.M. Remover. Um, Cuideca. Holly did a lot. Um, you know. Did you get British folks? That sounds British style to me. I have a Polish rapper on there. Ty You Cranker. Really? And you know the Polish, they get a rough rap, you know, a lot of-- I mean, because she-- that's what I'm saying. Hers, when she rap, it almost sounds-- Oh, it's a girl Polish? Yeah, it almost sounds Asian almost. Really? Yeah. The way she-- she's sick, man. Ty was sick. When you're saying you're getting it interested in like a break-core, you called it? Yeah. What? Just describe what that is. Break-core. I mean, did you core break-core? It's just more like, um, like-- It's like dancing. I was saying that sounds like to me. I was saying it's kind of like a cousin of, like, drum and bass and jungle. So it sounds British. Yeah, I mean, yeah. It's definitely influenced-- definitely a lot of samples from that. Yeah. It's music that, like, on a rainy day, you drive like a VW golf, like a GTI. I just walk in a rain. Really? Yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah, you just walk in a rain. Yeah, what? Do you conceive of, like, when you finish the song, do you ever conceive of, like, I've I've written the, that's a perfect song. Where'd you like? - I'd never say perfect song 'cause I always wanna get better. I feel like when music is never, you never, you know, like even Bowie did it till he was gone. You know, so it's like, you get, and it's one of the Ellis Alums he made. - Isn't your goat black star? - Yeah. - It's so good. - That's what I'm saying, so like-- - I could only listen to it twice because I ain't about to go black. - I'm not running black star back. - He's your number one. He's one of your number ones. - I mean, definitely a huge inspiration, but I will say, I wasn't around for that time to where I'd seen an impact, but just reading, you know, studying, doing a history, I definitely could get some inspiration from there. I would say print too, kind of like that. - Yeah, made of us. Did you ever meet him? - Fuck no, I wish. - I wish too. - Yeah. - Yeah, he would be so mean to me. - That's the same thing I was learning thinking in my head. - Yeah, I mean, he would be. - I mean, but I wouldn't have another way. - The artist. - I'm so excited to meet him. (laughing) - I mean, I wouldn't be disappointed about it. That's what I would say. You know, I'd never meet your idols type shit. I would just like expect that frame. - He was mean to his friends. - If he was nice to me, I'd be like, oh shit. - He hated Michael and Michael, and just was completely unfazed by it. That rivalry was the funniest rivalry in the world. - I can't pick between them too. - I was Michael growing up. - Of course I was too, but once I got old enough, I realized the genius of prints. - When Michael did the dick grab thing, when I was a little kid, I would see it on TV, and I started doing it, and then my eye would get so much trouble. - You might fuck me up, man. I got my ass with fucking with Mike. - Really? - It was not cool to like Mike? - I mean, that bad video came out, and you remember he was in the subway being bad and shit. - And those are real bad guys in the video. He got real bad. - I know, I was getting bullied on the playground. And I thought, you thought your butt is mine, you were trying to do your butt is mine. - No, I just thought, do what Michael do. And get a part of this, you know what I'm saying? So I hit the, oh, and got punched right in the mouth. - You thought that was real bad? - Yes. - I was diluted, music ran my life, you know? It was always funny. - You thought that was how a person fights? - I didn't know, but yeah, I did try to break out the bad routine before the scrap and got my ass full. - Imagine if it weren't. - So embarrassing, I'm glad we moved. - Dude, you have to move, Scott. (laughing) You have to move, Scott. - Yeah, I think you're right. But yeah, I got my ass full. - I mean, that is something. - I didn't even realize you can punch people in a mouth to them. Like, damn, I just saw that shit on TV. It was like second grade. - And it sounded the same. No, this was kindergarten. - Kindergarten. - Yeah. - Oh, that follows you to 12th grade. - Oh shit. - Oh yeah, you got it because it had to have been so funny. - Or, no, it maybe was first grade. - It maybe was first grade. 'Cause I remember, yeah, 'cause we moved mid, we moved mid semester type shit. So it was first grade. - You had the nicest parents in the world. - No, I never already planned in the movie. - Getting out of dodge when you were back. - They were already planning to move. They just lined up right. But yeah, I got punched in the fucking face. - Did you have to learn how to fight? - I don't think I ever did it. I just realized, just punching them out first. - You know first. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Even if you get to ask what's after, everybody go, "Remember, you fought on them first." So, yeah, I just took that motto. Any time I felt threatened, I was just punching them out. - Did it like, sometimes it didn't work hard enough? - I mean, I don't think, I never, I never knocked them out of y'all, so. (laughing) - I guess like, like moving forward, like, what are some like goals that you, or keep you going? Like as norris? - I mean, I felt like, you know, music is something, like I said, you can never, it's a never ending quest to get better at it. And now I understand more. So like, it's a legacy thing. Like maybe fucking 30 years after I'm dead, some kid is sampling my records and making hit songs out of them or whatever the fuck. So right now, I'm just making music for my legacy now. - Do you care about early records? And you think like, "Oh, that, that, like I'm better enough?" - Hell yeah. - Hell yeah. - Are you like that guys? - But it was a different way of going about making songs at that time. - Yeah. How did Nas do that at 17, though? It's so weird. - Just born with it, man. But then, you know, I feel like him having a jazz musician, father. - Yeah. - And, you know, like, you know, parents, we have them in record collections in the house and they really into music. Like, that shit definitely plays a huge part. - Yeah. - So yeah, I like that, like, doing the history of music, you know, like going back it. Like, it's just really like, figuring out records that stand the test of time in. Maybe one day I'll have a record like that. - What is he'll talking about, like, 30 years later? - So they said atop five rappers. What is your five of that? - I mean, I have my favorite records. I mean, I feel like five of my favorite records. I mean, that's the test of time versus records that I know stood the test of time. - Yeah. - You know? - But so what would some of those be? - Records that I think stand the test like. Even shit, just look at something like a Marvin Gaye was going on. Shit, look what the fuck going on right now. You giving them said. Record late that. - Sometimes when I listen to a future, I think that, actually. - Oh, no, definitely. Or like when I listen to like-- - Future like blues. - Well, when I listen like March Madness, he's like, even like, he's like in a club, right? And he's like on so many drugs, right? And his head can't like keep track. It's like, he keeps changing tracks. And he's like, he's like, damn, the cops are killing people. Should I fuck this girl, even if she's ugly, you know? - Yeah. - But he's like also like, I'm maybe too fucked up right now. And I'm super famous, but I still feel all alone. - Yeah, a future is like-- - It's just kind of, it is a very alienating time. - It's like, cut that, please, all that, that is sucks. - No, I understand what you're saying, 'cause future is kind of like blues music for toxic niggas that old child support. - It's true. - And gas light, it's like gas light you put it in, you know what I'm saying? - But don't you buy it? When he's like, I cheated on you, but I'm so sad. You're like, damn, he's having a tough time. - I understand, I'm like, wow, yeah, he really has a lot going on. - Sounds like a struggle with discipline. - Yeah, yeah. Well, rap used to be like, when we were kid, I mean, you're a little bit older than me, but when I was a kid, it was about like, I had nothing, and now, and then I made a lot of money, and now I'm celebrating it, right? And now it's kind of like, I have, I've got to the top, but I don't trust anyone around me. - The drag started dead. - I don't know, I think, I mean, one thing I feel like hip-hop always been rooted in, and this tradition has always been originality. So I like just hearing different stories, and I like hearing, like, a regional rap where you can, like, you never been there before, but you can close your eyes and hear them describe it, and you'd be like, "Oh, that's what's going on in the Mac know your projects in New Orleans, you know?" Like, listen, ill-matic, like, that's Queens Bridge, you know? - Right. - So that's what I love about rap. Oh, even when I listen to Disney Rascal, I'm like, that's London. Bet new greens, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, take me to your hood. That's what I like. I want to know what's going on. - It's like news. It's like our ghetto news, but it ain't like that no more, because it's kind of like everybody merged in, so everybody make the same sounds now, you know? It's just some regional shit everywhere, but-- - You think it's fucked up that a kid could listen to, like, like, Spotify, you could listen to any song ever? - No, I think that's actually great, to be honest, because I know a lot of kids-- - Well, you got to CD and listen for two months. - I think that is great, because a lot of kids do, could go back and do their research and do homework. I really do think that's a great part about it, but I don't-- - I don't-- - Anybody would get as deep, though. - I don't know. I mean, kids that are into music, they get deep. I can't say, like, kids that I've known, but they all make a music, though, so they do. It's some kids right now more knowledge about old-school shit than me, and I'm like, what the fuck? - Yeah, for me, it's just like, I think that, like, when I go to the mall, I get one CD-- - Yeah, so-- - And it'd be a month. - Yeah. - And I would just, like, I think that I needed that time to, like, just listen over and over and over again. - That's a lot. - To get something. But these kids, I feel like you could just keep changing to, like, different things. - I don't know, I wonder if they could, like, really just absorb it, like-- - I remember me, my cousin got dark side of the moon, and we were, like, 11, and we turned off all the lights, and we pretended to be high. - No. - We, like, imagine, like, one day we're going to be high. And it worked. - It's sick, dude. - I've done it before. I think everybody needs one acid-trip dark side of the moon. - Oh, you've done it, too. - New dark side of the moon. - I've done it. - Unreal record. - Let me appreciate it a lot more. - Really? - Yeah. - I like it, regular style. - I can't say. I mean, yeah. It's definitely a different experience. - I love the flow, dude. What's your favorite song on dark side of the moon? - The first one. - The time? - No, the time is the first one. - I definitely don't know the tracks. - Do it away. - Yeah. - The moment. - No, that's time. No, no. - The first track is, uh-- - Yeah. - Huh? - What is it? - Read. - Read? - Read. - Keep going, Zag. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. That's shit. - Yeah. - That's the hardest shit. - That's so sick. - Best man ever, dude. - Do you remember that song? - Yeah. - Yeah. - If you're playing me, keep that on the loo. - You know what songs? - Yeah. - That guy's like getting, this is the cock anthem, bro. - Yeah. - That is crazy. - If you listen to a lot of those songs and you just think about it, like, you'd be like, "Man, I remember that one Backstreet song where they just singing about getting the boner on the dance floor." - Which is that called? - I'm like, "When we always grindin'. I get so excited. - I'm like, "It's all about getting the boner." - I can't find it. - It's dancing real. - So, at the bar, this is like-- - You making it hard for me. They're just singing about boners. - There's rebeckish words and the angriest boners. - They're just singing about boners. - They're singing very aggressively about getting the boner too. - Like they're excited. - They're like, "Damn." - It's like the blue ball started kickin' in, like, "How am I like that?" - But I can't find it. You making it hard for me. I was floating in as in the booth, singing in unison. - It's hard for me without working in the lab with your friends. - Who wrote that shit, man? - Honestly, it is actual. That's like songwriting genius. - What is the girl part? The girl feel a little poke coming through. - Yeah! - Yeah, the girl part is this girl. - I feel a little poke coming through. - Oh you. - Oh you know what can't help it. - It's like that. (laughing) - I was a freaky niggas man. (laughing) - Are these hunts to come back? - Yeah, man. - They're trying to be too cool. I want to sing about boners and shit. 'Cause we all couldn't relate to that shit. I remember them bitch grinding on me. You got to put the mushroom on the draw band. Under the elastic. You got your dick on your fucking belly button. You're like, man. - Just fuck these guys. I'm so rich and I'm so sad. That was the pure shit. - You got your dick peeking out the bushes. - 12 o'clock. - Yeah. (laughing) - He's just up there. - Yeah. - How did they convince her to sing that part? I feel like I was a woman. I thought I'm like, "Hold up, man." - 'Cause she's dripping. - She thought it was a cool song probably. - That's like dance. That's like wetting the reception. - Fuck. - I know you feel like people have danced with their grandma's to that song. - That's what I'm saying. It's crazy. Now it's crazy. Now you really think about the cool was cutting the rug to this. - Freak dancing for us boys was bar misfit era. And it was just our parents were there. And we were just like, yeah. Like a couple of friends just let it go inside the pan. - In Detroit. - In Detroit, we had ghetto tech though. So that's like the most like blatant like sex, overt sexually music ever. So that's what I was growing up. Like teenage and shit. - There was nothing left to DJ assault. - DJ assault. - Yeah, DJ assault. Ascent titties and shit. - Oh, that's ascent titties. - Yeah, that's ascent titties. - Ascent titties. - That's why I used to, that's in Detroit as a kid. That's what we used to hear when we go to like parties and shit. We didn't hear like top 40 radio. Like top 40 radio. It was just DJ assault mix tapes. Just some holes in his house. - I wonder how he came up with that. - He's amazing. He has so many. - He's like the kind of the DJ Rashad of Detroit. Is he like the local legend? - He's a super legend. - Yeah. - Super duper legend. I mean, he was way before DJ Rashad. So I can't even say. - DJ Rashad. - He's like the sense that like footwork or like Chicago. - Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it was more shit music. Cause that's what we did in Detroit with more of a jittin. So I don't know if the song was just more about bitch holes, that up your clothes, holes, didn't make it. - And it would just be like not even a full sentence. - He'd be just over over. - And then I would just remember just being like, you know, you were in the eighth grade. You just literally just humpin' a bitch on a ground. (laughing) You just doggy style. It's just all clothes at the fucking school homecoming. You know what I'm just saying? That motherfucker, you wonder how teenage pregnancy was one in rampant around that neighborhood. - Do you remember how angry the boners we got? Those were the reasons of boners. - That's what I came for. - These days I'm like, what? - You're a loser. - Yeah, I remember. - I remember, especially in high school. - They'd be like shaking. - If they'd be like, hey, they'd be like. - You don't remember. - They're like super sayin'. - You don't remember them Terry cloth, a Nietzsche jog and suits and shit. - Oh. - The fat farms, the farmers and them was insane. - Well, Terry cloth is good for them. - Yes. - That was my strip club where? - Really. - Yeah, fat farm. - What are Detroit strip clubs like? - I haven't been in over 20 years. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Were they more industrious? - I mean, I would be scared. That's what shit happened at shit. - Really? - Yeah, it be gangster shit. It took 'em to, I'm a bitch ass nigga. - Did you ever, this is a stupid question and I'm embarrassed. Did you ever have that the eight mile style sex ever? - What's that? - When he's like in the factory with Brittany Murphy. - Mm-hmm. - 'Cause it was a good one. - I got my dick stuck in the Burger King freezer. - That's pretty much the same thing. - Yeah, yeah, I guess you right. - Mm-hmm. - It was the same. - I was working at Burger King. - It's probably romantic. - Mm-hmm. - About of onion rings and shit. - Yeah, yeah. - And it was like my first time really getting a blow job and I can't really respect it because it was in a cold ass freezer. - Mm-hmm. - So I didn't really know the power of it. - Why you got your own self? - I mean, I'm just saying, I wish it was in a more comfortable set and then I really would've, you know, been like, damn. - So I didn't really, I don't really count it. 'Cause I didn't know how good it really could get. - Whoa, they'll love my time. - My first handy was in the back of a girl's parents car and it took an hour and a half. - That was great. - It was the most painful experience of my entire life. - She was like starting a fucking, like a fucking lawn mower. - She was pulling on it. - And I was like, stop. - I just wish I wasn't a horny kid like that. - But then I was like, I have to come. Otherwise, I can't call it a hand job. - Oh. - So then I was like-- - So you were committed to the bit. - Yeah, and then I, and I busted my face. - Oh, shit. - Yeah. My first hand job, I busted my own damn face. - I mean, after an hour and a half of just fucking-- - Yeah, definitely, definitely. - I'm sure that would happen. - Humiliating, I know her full name and I want to say it. But you know where you are in your parents' infinity. - That's crazy. - It's so funny. The only part, like not having money sucks. But getting, like the girl part is kind of like the one thing that was kind of a little bit fun. - Where do you mean? - It was like a video game. Well, it was just like, I had a, I remember I was so, I had no money. And so I said, well, you know, all guys take you out to like a, to like a restaurant or a bar and I did like have the money for it. So I was like, why don't I cook for you? And I had this like spaghetti bowl and is that I priced down to like $7.30. - See, this is different cultures going on. - And so then I make her this, this heavy meat sauce spaghetti. And then I, but I would buy it ground turkey, which was cheaper than ground beef. And then I realized, you're as later, no, I realized that it's like God, like that fucking, it's not, they didn't go to sleep or anything, but it's like a trip to fan. And I was like, I was making, like in retrospect it was like a weight weapon. It wasn't, no, I'm just, come on. It's not, I, no, they, nothing like that happened. But it was like, you shouldn't make a give a girl a sleepy meal. You know, it's just not the right thing to do. But it was affordable. It was an affordable sleepy, but I was like, it's, in retrospect I'm like, turkey doesn't, it's a sleep, it's not Cosby. I'm not Cosby. - But yeah, see, I don't. - Thank you for your support. - I don't know, and I was broke, I was moving mountains. - I know, so I said on that, I should have gone that route. - Yeah, put the dick on track. - Do you feel like you've conquered a beast? - No! - Never felt like that. It never felt like that. It just felt like a, 'cause you know you're doing something, you really don't wanna do. And I feel like, anytime you're doing something like that, you're not gonna feel. - But do you think that you're being, like, you're giving them, like, the plat, you're being a nice guy to them? - Yeah. - To the mountains. - Like, charity? - Yeah, and they were like, thank you. - I don't know, 'cause they'd be like, he didn't pull back up. - Wait, they, those, they, they, it's all to you afterwards? - I mean, they, they, they want you to come back. - Oh, they want you to come back. - Yeah, yeah. - I don't know if I can do it. - Yeah. - And then you hit rock bottom and then you're like, "Yeah, I think you're done probably." - That's the worst walk on the way to the round. - Oh, I'm walking through the round two. No, the round two of the round. - I caught the bus over there to that bitch group. - The bus. (laughing) - At the bus stop, Cole is a.o. leave. I'm like, what the fuck? I got going on my life. - Oh, in the teach room. - Yeah, and you're just looking up the window on the bus. Like, man, what have I done with my life? (laughing) Just staring down Grand River, like. - This is the misogyny episode, I love it. (laughing) I don't have any such a good time. And don't get me started on their stories. - I'm not like that no more. - I'm definitely a change, man. I meditate 30 minutes a day. - Me too. - I used to be like that too. - So, you know, that was my 20s, man. I feel like once, I got, like, of AIDS to my frontal lobe with the belly. - Yeah. - I didn't make those choices. - I'm still, my mind is still developing. Cause I could think about shit I used to do, man. I'd be like, I can't believe. I'm deadly. No. I thought about doing shit like that. - No. - But you live, you learn, bro. - Yeah, definitely. - Yeah. - Definitely. I'm so happy now. - When you look at Patrick, can you tell, like, do you have like a sense of, like, how many times he said the word when it was in his song? - No, I'd like he pause. - What? - He looked like he paused. - He paused? Is he gay? - No, he paused when that part didn't continue on. - He looks like a pauser. - Yeah. - Like, what about Zach over here? How many times is, do you have like a sense of how many times? - Roughly 56. - Zach, he's Jewish. - Roughly 56. - Roughly 56. - But just why he's-- - Is it like-- - In the shower or something? - In the shower. - And then he's still going, oh shit. - Yeah. - It's so funny. It's like masturbating, right? It is like locked in. - Why are you also obsessed with saying that word? - In the song because it looked so cool. - I know. - But it's not. I have found myself. - I've never done that. - I do say nigga a lot. But it's almost like a, it's like a sis. - Yeah. - It's like a past. - It's like a past. - No, I'm talking about wind words. Like, 'cause you can fit another word there. But it just rose so great into another word. - It's just like in rhyme form. - When a black guy calls me that, it feels like flying. - 'Cause sometimes I'd be like, hold up. I'd be like, hold up, man. It ain't enough niggas in here. Let me throw some niggas in this bitch. - Well, I agree. There aren't enough. I'm a third draft. I'm a third draft, I drop some niggas in there. But this new album I've actually made, I don't really even touch that much. (clapping) It's very, it's like, it wasn't done on purpose though. But then, let's talk about that. I probably cussed. - You think cussing is hack? - No. Definitely not. It just came out that way. - It was easier. - I think cussing, I think, you know what it is. - It's rhyming cuss words as hack. - Yeah. - So if you bitch shit, anytime you do that, - Time you do that with the. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Duck, you can ride with the fuck. - Well, if you say fuck. twice. Have you ever had fuck with fuck? No, but I do rhyme twice. If it's an emphasis on camera, it's like the best. He's the best at it. He created that shit counter, you know? I love the watch. Trying. It's great. I'm trying. She moved to New York and chill with it. Fuck no. It's too cold. And I would get fat. Why would you get fat? It's just because you can get whatever you want at any time of the day. Like I'm not trying to eat shop cheeses at 4 a.m. But you want to be around those people? I mean, where I'm at, where I'm at, it's more of a communal situation. They don't even like me ordering Uber eats in my neighborhood. They don't even want like outside motherf***er hanging out over there. Oh, you're like a hippie commune situation. It's more, it's like a hill country. Hill country. Yeah. Hill people. I guess. Yeah. It's real communal. It's really, I really like it. I go to the market. They want you to, it's all like only local shops. Really? So yeah, you wave at your neighborhood. I mean, you got to, Jeff, everybody just drive golf carts. Do you do a nod? No, we kick it. They put a lot. That motherf***er's talk. Cause they, like I say, they want to, they want to know who you are. You living over here. Yeah, yeah. Hold up. They in your business. Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm so, it's fun. Who's your favorite one in the neighborhood? In my neighborhood. Oh, I got a, it's a, a lady up the street from Michigan. Oh, she's dope. Yeah. So, you know, she always invite me over to watch the Lions game and shit, but I like the smoke and shit. So, she was like, he's smoking in there. I wouldn't say that. I just don't even want to bring it up. Really? Yeah, she's like a mom. I can't just sit there much football without, you know, what I want. You know, why don't you just ask her, why don't you, why don't you play, why don't you ask her if she plays? But I'm not the biggest football fan. I like watching football if I'm betting on it. I'm more of a basketball. Yeah. And they weren't, they're not basketball people. You should get all these motherfuckers just, but they do though, like, like in the summer, they were watching like the Stanley Cup finals and shit on like a big ass projector. Just in the neighborhood. Yeah, just outside. Everybody's just hanging out watching them. Do they know you're a famous rapper? Yeah. Yeah. And they think that's cool. I mean, that should make you the most popular guy. I'm definitely like the youngest. It's like, so you're living with like 60% over 60 years old. You're living with 60-year-old hill people. Yeah. You're like Jeff. Yeah. They're real passive aggressive too. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Really? I think so. You got green as hair? Yeah, they like it. Really? They're like, look at this hippie. Yeah, they don't. Yeah. But you know, also this kind of like that. It's keep awesome wear type shit. So I put it in my shit. Well, like I say, I'm more, I'm literally like maybe an hour from downtown or something. So you're in the sticks? Yeah, like I said, hill country. You got a gun? Hell, yeah. What kind of gun do you have? I got a Chicago. What does that sound like music to me? I mean, Chicago. It's a, it's very expensive. It's really fused for like like Olympic shooters and shit like that. It's like one of those type of professional shooting guns. That's why I don't hear rappers rapping about it because they cost too much. They never heard anybody say I'm got the staccato. But they like talking about, yeah, but things. They don't, they don't buy, they talk about the cheapest guns though. The worst guns. Yeah. Who's the biggest dickhead in rap that you've ever met? What's the definition of dickhead? I don't know, it's just being a dickhead. Like being mean? Yeah, being mean. Probably mean. Really? Are you mean other rappers? It was a time. You're like Patrizonio? Yeah, definitely. You're like, you're a fan. How did you, how did you look up the Patrizonio? How did you do that? Like, how did you, like, how did that, like, how did you act mean to them? Like, how did you establish dominance like that? Just get drunk as fuck and say the first day in kind of your head. You'd be like, you suck your rap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're bitch. Yeah. Is there someone you, I wouldn't want it. I wouldn't want it. Is there someone, have you made a mens? I mean, I made a mens. Whatever you know, once you get sober, you got to, you got to do that thing. You got to, like, hit up a drink and be like, I think you're a good guy actually. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a drink. I never met a drink or anything. You've never met him? We got to share with him. Yeah. It's so incredible. He got to be famous. He's like, how is that? Oh, because he gives all you, all you juice guys. It's our dream. Hope. It's our number one dream. It was so meaningful to me. What about Jack Harlow? He's Jewish. I mean, well, I don't know. I don't know. What are you looking at him knowing everyone is Jewish. No, he's not Jewish. He's not on my list. Okay. He's not on my list. Who watched some Jewish rappers? Bob Dylan technically. Yeah. I could say Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan had some bars. Yeah. Substorated. I don't know. We shouldn't talk about Jewish anymore. Okay. I don't want to talk about it anymore. I'm sick of it. Mm-hmm. I wish I could quit. I looked at a foreskin reattachment. What would you want to do that? Because the BB was being such a ass. You can do that though? Apparently, but you don't regain. They don't go, it's shit. I'm doing. You know, sensitivity. It'd be cool if I got a different color. I guess you could. I guess you could. If I had a different color at the end, helmet, you can, you can get the style, a different style. Different side. You can get a style like pick your, switch your shit out. Like go hoodie or turtleneck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I will be a intellectual. He'd be like a beat neck. You can get like, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to leave it extra skin right here, you know? Yeah, yeah, I get a little bit. I'm all down for dick surgery, man. Yeah, I'm all down with it. I'm too scared. I'm like, about, I don't give a fuck. If I get to like 60, be like, fuck it. Just give me the long, long silver. Yeah, yeah. Just stay hard all the time. Yeah, yeah. I don't got to have no feeling in it. Yeah, yeah. That's the only reason, it's the only reason why I work out. Really? It's just to be able to fuck with them in my 60s. Yeah, it's true. Because I, I did realize, like I would always think that like if you can't have sex anymore, you, that's why they, that's why you see old people maybe angry all the time. I mean, could they fuck it? They got the, you could just take a thing though. But, not, I mean, yeah, but it's all about your physical prowess. Yeah, but my grandma's doing unspeakable. You know, like I told you, deep hill, these hill country, these my, oh, and then shape. So you think that they're having key parties? They definitely didn't freeze you. Yeah, really? And they're judging your ass for being a rapper. No, that's me. They like that shit. They like because they like, man, he cool. Yeah, you know, and then they know, like, they know I had got sober and all that kind of shit. So they're impressed. I mean, they just, they know I'm not partying. I don't know why I was shit. Yeah, it's cool. Jeff? I mean, because you know, it's a rapper move to your neighborhood. You think he's going to be having parties and shit or something. I don't know. Yeah, it's a freehouse perhaps. Baby oil. I mean, were you ever invited? I was never that cool. You is cool too. I agree. I don't think I was cool enough for the freehouse. I've been like, I did it. You know, I'm freehouse level now. Yeah, I'm white party. I mean, you got it. Sometimes you got to do shit for the store. Yeah, of course. Yeah, did you know that stuff was happening? Fuck no, but I was definitely entertained by the trial. Yeah, it was pretty good. Yeah, I was tapped in. What was your favorite? What was your favorite little moment? I'm just, I mean, to be honest, like the way it all started out and how much was said and what the allegation like, you know, like you thought it was way more like crazier than just to find out he was just hiding behind curtains in a hijab, jacking off squirting baby oil at motherfuckers. We thought it was like huge orgies with all famous people in politicians, but no, I just think it was just jerking off in her job, squirting oil on Niggas. This is basically like, yeah, and now you're doing fine. I would, that's the worst jail time. If you film that, that's jackass for, you know. Now you got a jail for it. But I mean, he was beaten on bitches and shit. Yeah, that was not good. So no. But what they said, jerking off baby oil. What the rumors was that was happening versus what was presented in the courtroom is two different worlds. Well, I heard that he was having sex with the dad from, yeah, like all these rumors. The dad from Erkwell, sure. Yeah, and then Carl Whitton. Teeny Jakes and all that shit, like, but it was none of that. It was none of that when you heard he just hiring. So he did have sex with Carl Whitton? I don't know. I don't know, but I'm saying that wasn't in the crowd. No, that shit was. Go home Steve. Imagine walking out of there and it goes, go home Steve. That's like for the shit of the Erkwell. That Carl Whitton's low. Imagine Carl Whitton's low, don't ain't never met Diddy in his motherfucking life. He's just chilling at the crib and all of a sudden he's just look up. Everybody talking about he fucked Diddy fucked him. He's like, what the fuck is going on right here, man? You giving them saying, look at believe it. And motherfuckers believe this shit. Like, you still, if that shit happened year, like, people that were rumored, but now, well, just saying, like, I feel bad for him. You got to have sympathy for the guy. Like, he, like, he, like, I'm crazy. A list actor, like, he working all the time. Who knows if you're trying to get new jobs and shit now? Like, man, I've been doing all dishes. They thinking, I fucking did he have the freaks? Like, who came up with that? It's like, it's such a random guy. And I'm saying that's why I feel bad for him. Cause I don't believe that. Of course he fucked Carl Whitton. I don't believe that shit, man. I don't believe that shit. No, it's so easy to believe anything you're told these days. Yeah, especially after hearing the trial. Did he ain't fucking, I'm just saying I feel just imagine Carl Whitton's low just chilling at the crib and you just own Twitter, like, oh, it's mentioned just started going crazy. He getting memes and shit. He's like, oh, it's not true. Like, that kind of shit make my fucking jump off bridges and shit, man. Like, I feel bad. Like, third, that's why I'm off social media though. That's why I'm done with this shit. I don't want to know. And then just imagine if you you as a mother fucker that's all social media. You ain't watching it. You don't even know these allegations is all here, did you? You're just hanging out at Chipotle, niggas looking at you crazy. Like, everybody giving me the one high. Like what's going on? - It doesn't even know that people think. - Did somebody just say something? Somebody get bold and say some weird shit to you. You're like, what the fuck is going on? - People are like snickering, look at you. - Yeah, really come on, dude. That's amazing. I think that's amazing. - That's why I hate the internet. - Yeah, I hate it, too. - And no one does any fact check in the find out. Ain't nobody checked on it home. - There's a lot of people. - Ain't nobody checked in on Carl. See how you doing, man. - All right, if he wants to come on the show. - I definitely, he do need to speak his part. - He needs to say something. - I think maybe that's why it's still lingering like this because he ain't never really addressed it. - We need to hear from him. - Is he still living? - I hope so. - Imagine if he did. And then niggas just started saying, you fuck diddy. Am I just with my legacy now? - Daddy proud, everyone. (audience clapping) - Did you have time? Sorry guys. - Mm-hmm. - Thank you, brother. - You're back. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)