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Dance Floor's Not Dead, Bricks to Baos & Madonna with Victor Calderone

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Dance Floor's Not Dead, Bricks to Baos & Madonna with Victor Calderone

Victor Calderone joins the podcast "Canal Street Dreams" to discuss his journey as a house music DJ and remixer from Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. He recalls being inspired by his older brother’s vinyl collection and his first visit to The Funhouse at 16, where the smell of baby powder on the dance floor captivated him. Calderone became known for remixing pop hits by Madonna, Kylie Minogue, and Bette Midler, bridging pop and house music for club audiences in the 1990s and 2000s. He contrasts the patience and storytelling of long-form sets from his era with today's performative, branded club scene, which he believes lacks depth and emotion. To counter this, he started a new residency at Refuge in Bushwick, playing after-hours sets from 6-7 AM onward, emphasizing music and community over sensory overload. He finds joy in rediscovering his vinyl collection and mentoring younger listeners, including his 23-year-old son, who recently began DJing with him. Calderone also shares personal details, such as his 27-year partnership and living in Tribeca. The conversation highlights his commitment to preserving the authentic, immersive spirit of dance music culture.

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All right, welcome back Canal Street Dreams. We have a house music DJ New York legend in the building. Victor Calderone, Victor, welcome to the show, brother. Thank you for having me. Huge fan. Huge fan. Any relation to the New York Nick Legend point guard Jose Calderone? No, no. Yeah. Nick's on the playoffs. I have to ask these stupid questions. Yeah, I'm even sorry to say I'm not a big sports guy. Yeah, but you know, we are huge fans of your music. And when we got the email that you wanted to come on the show first, this is like basically a DJ pod. All the listeners know. I landed in the right place. Yeah. But we had just made a playlist at Bauhaus called the girly pop playlist. Okay. And it's our favorite playlist to play here. And it goes crazy Saturday nights. And you have songs on it. It starts with like Madonna hung up. Then Ace of Base, all that she wants. Kylie Minogue can't get you out of my head. But then it's got some of your like frozen remixes on there. Okay, we're going back. It's got your bad. We're going to remix on there. You know, bit midler. Wow. Like in the wedge on the cover. But like we got a party in there. Yeah. And the thing was when we were making this list, it was crazy. So many of your songs made it. And I was talking to like DJ Jubilee who's also been on. And she's like, yo, I have to say definitively the thing about Victor was as a DJ because of his remixes, we were able to play these huge girly pop records in the club at House parties. And like it flowed right into it. And my my feeling was it's like you you kind of did the like the heroine remix of like all these super poppy like very bubbly songs that are catchy and people love. Yeah, and at the time, I think it was it was obvious for the major labels that they were crossing over it, you know, into an audience that we're not not listening to that music. So, you know, they ran with it. You know, and like, yeah, I was very busy at that time. Yeah, with the remixing. Yeah, I was doing a lot of it. You know, as you mentioned Madonna, but middle-air is staying beyond say, yeah, all of it. But in that way too was like it felt like early 90s pop was taking from late 80s mid 80s house. Yes, you know, and then making it pop. And then you were kind of bringing it back around. Yeah, as always things to you. There was this nice hybrid between the two. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, those were all songs I was listening to the original records like on the middle school bus. And I just loved that air of music. And then you brought it back. So when I was in meatpack, I could listen to this shit. Yes. Yes. I love hearing that. Yeah. It was a fun time for sure. Yeah. How did you come up and get in there everything? I came up through my brother growing up. I grew up in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. And growing up my older brother was a DJ and we shared a bedroom, a small bedroom. And he had this big vinyl collection. And I would just sit there listening to him DJ and like be like digging through the vinyl and reading, you know, the credits and learning, you know, who's making this shit. You from the era like Bugsie was in Bensonhurst? You know, Bugsie playing Bugsie. Bugsie, he had the club in Soho on spring over there. No, no, I don't know. His Instagram. Bugsie loves New York. But he was a big club guy from the world. You know, Roman Roman Grandanetti? Yes. Yeah. Roman from Bensonhurst suit. That's our guy at the bugs. I didn't know. It was wild, man. Growing up in the neighborhood was wild. Yeah. It was it was like a Scorsese film, you know, absolutely. Those characters were real. You know, the social clubs, nobody had jobs. Hardly anybody went to school. So yeah, you know, which one's your favorite slice in Bensonhurst? My favorite slice. Oh, I mean, that was Lenny's back in the day. Okay, okay, okay. I heard recently it just closed. Yeah. Lenny's is closed. And then in cats, cats argue about which slice shop. I'm like, I'm talking about that. You're a freestyle back then. Freestyle was back. Yeah. Yeah. I was playing freestyle. Early hip hop. Yeah, it all came, you know, came up through my brother and, you know, learned how to DJ through him. Yeah. I never imagined becoming, you know, my career and, you know, and living it. But yeah, here we are. We talked to a number. We've had a number of guests that are like Bensonhurst kids to the club, you know, like, which, what was your route to the club? And what was it like being like a Bensonhurst kid coming to the city and getting into the scene? Oh, it was wild. You know, I remember he took me to my first after hours, which was the funhouse. John Jellybean Benitez was the resident DJ. Yeah. I mean, I was a teenager. I was 16 years old. Yeah. And I remember coming out of the battery tunnel, I'll never forget and just driving down the west side. And at that time, they even had an elevated west side highway. And I just remembered as we drove along the west side, seeing all these like night clubs and it was just a different world from where I came from. And, and I remember arriving at the funhouse and being online and that like base pressure, like shaking the doors, rattling the doors and like, you know, excitement of getting in there. Yeah. And I'll never forget it walking in and I smell a baby powder in the air because they would sprinkle baby powder and it's like a baby powder on the floor so they can slide and spin and that's crazy. I didn't know about that. That's like burned into my memory, you know, and just I just never forget it. I was like, wow. I remember young dudes. We just smelled like gold bond and cool water. And this is I'm just hearing this for the first time in my life today. I didn't know there's baby powder on the floor. Yeah. Yeah. Sprinkling on the floor. And just fill the air. That's so sick. And I just I don't know if you get it. I was like, I want to be a part of this world. It's a completely different world from where I came from. I feel like you saw the best era of New York. Yeah. Like absolutely the best era. I have to agree. Yeah. Yeah. I the first time I came to the city was like summer 1997. And, you know, I was just running around. I didn't even know where I was, but coming from like Orlando, Florida, see this city. I was like, yo, I'm like in Batman comics or something. Man, this is crazy. Like the energy and the number of people. And I mean, I still, you know, city man. Yeah. Yeah. It's the greatest. And then like early 2004 is when I really started to get into the New York club scene and things like that. And it took me seven years from the summer I came and saw it to get here and become a resident. But I remember the first time I was like, bro, this thing really never sleeps. Now it sleeps at 11 o'clock. But back then it really never slept. I mean, I, you know, I'm kind of guilty of passing out at 9 p.m. on the sofa. Yeah. Saying I got guys coming to the restaurant. I got an 830 rest. I was like, I will be a sleep. I will be a sleep cutter with her by then. Yeah. It's wild. You know, I live a double life. I totally live a double life. You know, during the week, I'm like hardly making it through a show with my wife. I'm passed out on the sofa. On the weekend, it's like I put on a cape and I'm like, listen, like, Mr. After hours, you know, or were you playing at these? I know you have the new residency. Yes, I just started a new residency at this place called Refuge in Bushwick. We're amazing. Incredible room. It's scaled down. It's like 500 capacity, but like phenomenal sound system, like everything I want in a venue, you know, intimacy, great sound. It's just, it's right. Yeah. I like that there are house heads bringing these parties back. There's the other homey, the Detroit music, the Detroit house. I just saw that legend. Yeah. Derek May, no, not Derek May. I know he talked about you. Yeah, he just opened up a spot in Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, his name, it'll come to me. Yeah, I feel like the scene is has moved to Brooklyn. Yeah, I'm excited for what you're doing. Sure. Because you know, even like today, Charlie XC X is like the dance floor's dead. I'm like, yeah, people always want a party just because you're not partying and you, you want your singer-songwriter guitar thing like love Charlie, but it's just like, you know, just because you want to dance or don't mean other people not coming for it. It's still very much live. It's just a very different thing happening now. You know, just that's why I'm doing something completely the opposite of what I feel is happening on a large scale. Yeah. You know, I want to bring the focus back to the depth and, you know, and back to the music and the connection, you know, on the dance floor and building that community that shows up, you know, not expecting, you know, the sensory overload. You know, party kids, party kids. And it's like the reason why people aren't on the dance floor is because no one's doing a party you want to go to. Yeah, right. It became branded. I would say like around the time up and down open, like in 2012 and like Bayesian opened like 2010 down on the lower east side. I felt like those two clubs were the beginning of the end. And then of course Instagram and we don't need to get into it. But it's just like the party ended. It was beginning to end around those years. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm glad you bring a shit back. Trying, trying to do my part spreading my gospel. Totally. You know, what do you think is different about playing for this generation versus the one you came up in? People, I think that the key that's missing now is patience, you know, back then people showed up, open patient, allowed things to unfold. And now I think they just want to get to it. It's just like, you know, the the consumption of music has become so disposable. Yeah. You know, so it's very different for me. I come from playing long form sets, you know, 10, 12 hour sets. Yeah. So, you know, storytelling, you know, like building it, bringing it up, up, bringing it down. And what's happening now is just, I don't want to sound like that dick that's hating on it. I'm not hating on it. - Oh, no, no, you're not hating on it. And I'll say it again, it's a very different thing than what I do. It's cool, if you found that niche for you and that's working, it's performative, what I do is not performative. You won't see me jumping up and down in the DJ booth with my bros. - Yeah, yeah, it's not marshmallow. I feel like honestly, a lot of, it's not you, I'll wait for this truck to pass, but like, I feel like late stage millennials are very much to blame for the death of the party. Because what happened is, is like, that early 2010's era, people started to realize with Instagram and the influencer economy that you could make money being cool. And so then people were performatively cool for money and as a job, and every single party became branded and sponsored. And even I experienced inviting people to party, yo, is there a gift bag? Is the brand paying? What's going on? And I was just like, bro, it's a party. What happened? We used to do drugs together. What are you talking about? We were brothers and arms, man. I took you to the hospital once, dog. (laughing) - Yeah, that bad trip on drums together. - Oh, man. I mean, I lost a car, which I was so faded before once, like we've lost a car in a parking lot before. I had to come back the next day. - Yeah, so we're like, oh, no, that's the car right there. - Yeah, yeah, that's what it's about for me. Bringing the focus back to what matters. Depth, music. I'm not saying that these kids are not enjoying themselves with what's happening now with all that large scale stuff, but it's very different. And I see it because I came in up in the era that we're talking about. And I'm playing for a lot of these young generation now and I see the difference. I can speak on it and say, yeah, that's different. That's not, it's lacking depth. It's lacking emotion. - And you're a kid from Bensonhurst. I'm a kid from Orlando. I didn't know no rich people. The way in for me was being a party kid. And I think that there's always been this intersection of business in the party, but there also has been this kind of like purity as being the kid from the party side. Like, yo, yo, it needs to be more about the party than the business. And I think the dance floor has become like a store. And I think what you're doing is bringing it back to like being a party, you know, a neighborhood, a community gathering place, you know? - It's a risk. - And it as well, you know, it's not for everybody. For me, saying, you know, I'm gonna do the opposite of everything that's happening right now. But there's a good amount of people that are craving that and that are looking for that. And not only that, it's like, you know, and I'm doing after I was some doing some really crazy hours. I go on at 6am, 7am sometimes. And then go all day. So, you know, the other good thing about that is when these kids are leaving all these other festivals and big scale events, they land in my room, not even knowing who's playing. But then they leave and text me the next day or DM me the next day and like, "Yo, I never heard anything like that. I didn't even know who you were. I landed there with some friends. We just, you know, took me there." What was that music you were playing? What, you know? - Oh, that's what it's about. - For me, that's what it's about. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Absolutely. - Not just to be like turning my back and saying, "Now, I'm gonna do my own thing," you know? But it's about like also still educating, you know, inspiring people in a way that they're not hearing at these large scale events. - I remember just going to bars in the Lower East Side when I first got here listening to DJs, the neighborhood guys playing breaks records. And I'm like, "Wait, I've heard that somewhere. What's this?" Yo, it's off this break record. And I was like, "That's so sick." And you didn't have a phone. You said to look at the record and be like, "I'm gonna go look in the store for that thing." - Yeah, exactly. - You know? - And it's also like taking those risks and playing those things, you know? - Yeah. - What do you, what do you, what do you into a lot these days, like albums and songs, music, what do you play in? - I'm constantly filtering through music and I find myself going back into my collection more than like digging through new material. Of course, I listen to a lot of new promos and I'm always doing the search. I'm always listening. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I find myself, especially now, we just renovated in Tribeca and we just moved in and I brought my vinyl collection into my studio, which I never had. So I'm rediscovering a lot of stuff that I forgot about. - It's beautiful. - So it's about that. It's just like kind of rediscovering. - It's always dance music for me. It's not anything different. - I do like that too. It's like, I'm an unknown 44. You know, you own status. It's like, I was always discovering new music up until I'd say 2019. And I still listen to new music, but I just have to be honest. I don't relate to it as much. I love the new fuckers album. Like that's one of my favorite albums. Oh, you're gonna love this shit. This is, I think, that is my favorite dance record of the last five years. I can't wait to play it for you after we get off the show. But then I started to realize my value to the little homies now, and the cooks in the kitchen that are like 22, 23 years old, is like, they're interested in the era I grew up in. Like, Golden Era hip hop. And like early 2010s records. And I was like, oh, I know every deep, I know every B side. And they're like, you'll any play that shit, play that shit, play it. And I'm like, oh, that's what, like, stretch and bob were for me when I started going to their party at apartment. 'Cause it's like, when you know an era inside out before we had families and wives and business, I was just listening to music all day long. Like, I'd find 70 new songs a day. And I'm like, that's the era I know and I can put people on to. And it's cool to become like, you know what? That 20 year span, I could show you any record in that 20 year span. This is probably what you do. Exactly. It's interesting because, you know, having a 23 year old, you know, son, who is now following in my footsteps, musically, and, you know, like, studied music production as well. And seeing him come to my studio and dig into my collection now. And how excited he's getting, discovering, you know, like records that, you know, mean a lot to me. Yeah. It's very interesting to see that it's not just about new music, even for someone in his, you know, generation. So it's amazing to see. That's got to be exciting. Just seeing your kid discover something that means so much to you independent of your influence and then like gravitating towards that. I, yeah, that's just a really special thing. It's wild as well to see because for years, he had no interest. Yeah. And what I did wasn't until he, like, he was like 17. He finally, like, came up to me and was like, "Show me how to DJ." I'm like, "He has." Yeah. No, it's flying. It's like me and my pops, too. Like he would sing like Mandarin songs, growing up on karaoke every Saturday morning. And I hated it. I'm like, I want to watch the Ninja Turtles. This guy's singing karaoke, taking up the TV. But then all those songs are burned in my memory. Yes. Yes. As an education. Yeah. And when I lived in Taiwan during the pandemic, I'd go to karaoke joints hearing the songs. I started sending my dad video singing the songs and he was just like, brought to tears. He was just like, yeah. He's like, "Yo, you paid attention." I was like, "Of course, man. I listen to you sing the shit every Saturday." Yeah. That's so funny. It's funny. You've become the dad singing karaoke in the morning. Yeah. It's so funny. You're going to be passing that over. Yeah. That's beautiful. It's amazing. It's really, like, I'm so proud of him. And yeah, I just like, it's wild. You know, we did our first back-to-back. And I'm looking over at him, like, queuing up the track, like getting ready to mix into what I'm playing. And I was just like, this is fucking wild. And that this is actually happening. Yeah. And like, speaking of children and families, like, our son's Mandarin immersion school is in your building. You live in. Oh, yeah. It's the opposite. It's the opposite. My wife's office. Yeah. Oh, it's her office. Her office, yeah. So funny. So I was like, I feel like I see you guys. And then when we were only searching the pot, I was like, no, for sure. This is you. But it is so funny. We're all just over there and try back a-- We're like-- And I was doing a deep dive on your socials. I was like, no, I'm-- Yeah, I definitely know. We're just in the worst elevator system of all time over in that building. So I swear I felt the elevator drop when I went. Yeah, I was like, this is crazy. I can't use my lighter. I know, right? Athena, yeah. She's not a Greek. She's Italian. Oh, I'm Greek and Italian. You're super alike. Yeah, she's Italian. That's awesome. That's awesome. She from your neighborhood, too, no? No, she grew up in Long Island. Oh, OK. Malguer and Long Island. Yeah. She's nice. Another enclave. Yes, another enclave. Another world out there. I love it. I love it. Yeah, that's my partner in every sense of the word. Yeah. We've been together now. We've been together in the two 27 years. Wow. Congratulations. Thank you. That's huge. Wow. Yeah, we were researching you guys. So it's very similar. Like, we do everything together. We have one son. I was like, oh, there's so many parallels here. We're very much just-- it's funny. People will be like, do you guys work together? And we're just partners on everything somehow. Maybe we won't even talk about it, but then it will end up being that. Yeah. So it's 27 years, but that's like a murder one bit. That's-- You could kill someone if that hurt earlier. [LAUGHTER] Shit. I mean, that's the only half of my life. Yeah, Max, beat it 10 fewer years, man. Very much murder. Oh, my god. [LAUGHTER] I mean, you are that. Yeah. Yeah. - Yeah, you know where we met. - Where? - At the tunnel. - Oh, that was so, bro. - The original tunnel, yeah. - Wow. - That was so. - She was a bartender. - Wow. - And I went there with a bunch of my Guido friends and went to night. And one of my friends ordered a bottle of champagne and she came walking over. - Wow. - And she had a shaved head, smoky eyes, septum ring, wife beat her, no bra. I was like, who the fuck is that? I need to know who this girl is. And I knew one of the dancers at the time, I was like, you need to introduce me to her. - I love that. - And yeah, I mean, she really was just chatting with us. She didn't know who she was talking to, but we ended up connecting and becoming friends. - Yeah. - It's a beautiful thing to see the party kids become parents too. Like all of our homies now have kids, but we all met in the club. We all met hardy. And it's cool, 'cause then you're like, I am a parent and I'm a good parent. I'm gonna feel bad about this. Like, I love that y'all met at the club. - Was the tunnel, tunnel was that pedigations? - That was pedigations. - Yeah, a pedigations club. - Wait, before Peter, it was, oh God, Rudolph. Was it named Rudolph? I believe it was him, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - But yeah, at the time when we met, it was, it was pedigation. He was running it. I mean, he owned everything at the time. Yeah, the tunnel. - Yeah, limelight. - Limelight. - Yeah, the pladium. - Wow. - Yeah. - New York was the guy who did it with the man. - Yeah. - And then they got caught up, man. - That's your crazy. - That's your crazy. - And the rain started to happen. - We're not gonna name names. - No, no. (laughing) - That shit's crazy. - You heard that from me. - No, no. (laughing) - Like I was a little homey coming up when all of it was coming out, like who talked and what was going down. That was crazy. - That was wild to see. - That was crazy shit. - That was crazy shit, man. I think it was the village voice wrote the big article on that way back in the day. That was interesting. - Yeah, it was crazy. 'Cause everybody that worked for him even got audited. - Yeah. - It was so shit. - Athena, my wife at the time, when he was going down and being audited and you know, all these people went down with it. And they started auditing everybody that worked. - That's crazy. - Yeah. I ended up working with a couple of the people that were involved that then found careers outside of it. - Oh really? - And that's how I like learned all of it. 'Cause I was an internal or lime, I was an orlendo when that was, I came by the time the feds had already raided the shit. But then I didn't even know I ended up working for the people that had, you know. - You find your tribe. And the same dudes find the next dudes of the same generation, you know, like of the same ilk. - 100%. - Me and my little homies got caught up with those guys. And blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, like everybody works together. And you end up eating at the same restaurants and doing the same things, it's the circles. And now it's cool 'cause you're gonna meet them through your club and your kid. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, I love that. I love passing it down, you know, making those connections. And for me, it's my life, you know. - Yeah. - It's, yeah. It's always gonna be my life. It's what I love and what I know best, you know. - And it's a beautiful thing. Like I didn't totally understand like what life would be like when partying is so much a big of a part of it. 'Cause your parents are always mad at you and hating on it. - Yeah. - What are you doing? And I had no idea, like, your mind-tired career was gonna come out of the club. (laughing) - Yeah, my mom would have been happier if I was like laying bricks somewhere, you know. Like, yeah. - What are you doing with this music thing? My mom was very old school Italian. She didn't speak English. She did not understand it. But I was in the basement, like literally shaking the whole house. You know, same, same. I mean, I was an attorney. I had a big firm job. I'd gotten a job at a white shoe law firm. I hated it so much. I was still promoting parties at happy ending with DJ Who Kid in G unit. - Oh man. - And literally the day they fired me at the law firm, I was three hours late to work. I got in at 11. My office mate was already packing up his stuff. He's like, bro, they fired all of us. I was like, what? He was like, they'd been calling you for three hours. His messages. (laughing) I walked in on the last way. I'm like, hurt you guys are giving $40,000 severance. - Yeah, that's a lot. - You know what I'm gonna do. - I will go. - Let me find out. (laughing) - They were like, you're taking it, I didn't get that. - Yeah, they were like, you're taking it really well. Like when I was talking to each other, everyone else has been so sad and crying. I'm like, hey man, I heard you giving $40,000 to my like, this is the best day of my life. (laughing) Thanks. - Thank you so much for firing me. - Who Kid? - Who could drill me straight from the club to work? And I was like, man, now I could just stay in the club and speak. - We're like, yeah, circle the block. We got 40k, let's go. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Come back for me. (laughing) - And 40k went a long way back then. - For sure. - Sure, shit, like, then you just have all the time and 40k to party, I'm like, I'll cut the brick and just start selling it off a bench. That's what I did. I was like, 40, my eyes were like, 40k, you're basically gonna invest in my next business. - Exactly. - So crazy because we were here for lunch yesterday, we're working the lunch box and somebody comes in to get some to go bows and he's like, yo, did you used to sell me weed? And he's like, yeah. - Yeah. - That was me. - Yeah, like, however many years ago that was, yes, for sure. - Yeah, man, we were so bowed though. - We did what we had to do, we did what we knew. - That's how I opened the restaurant is, I got fired, I took the severance, I got the work, I sat on a bench, made enough money and then opened the restaurant. And that was it? - Amazing. - Yeah. Shout out to party seniors. - Shout out to party seniors. - Shout out to Betra Flan Street. - Yeah, because these two happen in the club. Love happens in the club. - Right. - This is happen in the club. Like, that would be my advice to people. - Yeah. - There was like, nothing good happens after 3am. I disagree. - Not true. - I disagree. - So many people hit me up. - I think good things happen. - Like, right me. Like, beautiful emails, like, man, you know, I'm a doctor for such and such and such. Like, you never know who's on your dance floor. - Yeah. - But like, telling me how much I changed his life, you know, through a set. - Right. - It's just like, yeah, no. - That's moving. - Yeah, everybody is, man. Music is so powerful. - Yeah, it is. I think it's like the most powerful art form there is. And just to be able to give people that experience. - And what else is there other than, you know, maybe spirituality that moves people to that point, you know. - Yeah. But even, I think music is spiritual. There's so many, even like if you're practicing yoga or whatever your spiritual practices, there's so many musical elements of it that coincide, and they're very parallel, I find. - Yeah. - Like a lot of talk about people partying less and dancing less and drinking less. And I'm like, we need doctors, we need less attorneys. But everybody needs a party. - Everybody needs that release. - Everybody got a party, yeah. - Yeah, for sure. - Like, what are we doing here if we're not partying? Let go, forgetting everything. Just, yeah. Just doing your body and the music. - Yeah. - All right, so tell me, what are some of your favorite top five? Usually we do a rapper fire on here. - Okay. - But I just wanted to know, what are the top five records you have liked to play over the course of your career, where when you play it, it's just like, it's game over. Now, give you an example, right? Like in the restaurant here, every once in a while, when it's going, when I play the dip set, Bruce B remix of Phil Collins and the air tonight, where it's just Bruce B talking shit on the record. This room goes bananas. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - All right, there's a few records like that. Like, I used to like to play, can't blow black connection blended into a bucktow, Smith and Wes and Bucktow. You know, like, what are some of your favorite like bridges, blends records that just shut it down? - Yeah, man, a lot of us, yeah. You're gonna put me on the spot. I have to. - Okay. Where love lives, Allison Limerick. - Yes. - Okay. - I mean, it does not leave my box. First choice, let no man put a sunder. - Oh man. I'd have to say, craft work. - Oh, because for me, that's a crowd rock. - Yeah, I'm reading the crowd rock book right now. - Oh yeah. - So fire, yeah. - Okay, what else? - Trans-DF Express, it's crazy. - Oh, that's four, right? - That's three. - That's three. - You know, you're not talking to me. You only two. - That's three. - You only two, bro. - Wow, you only two. - You two. - Man, you put me on the spot. Okay, one that always gets the party going. Music Express, Express Two. Elevates the room. And I'll have to say Donna Samba, I feel like. - Oh, you have to. - Oh yeah. - You have to. - Any of my records. - It's not my records. - Yeah, it's not your records. - Like, early on, it was like probably the first piece of vinyl that I put my hands on. So, yeah. - On some funny shit, 'cause it is a played out record. They played it the Garden now too, but that SH House song. - Oh my God. - When it lands in the garden, it's done. It's time to put it away. - It's so funny, but that shit goes so hard. - You hear, there's like something. - It's a love of tonight. That song goes fucking crazy. - Oh, man. - Like that goes insane out of wedding. - Yeah. - It's insane. Insane. - Insane. - That's a more recent one that goes crazy. - For sure. - Yo, I thought you might have dropped them, we would have dropped them Madonna song. Like when we drop Madonna hung up here, that goes pretty crazy. - It goes crazy. - It goes crazy. - It goes crazy. - It's so early, yeah. I have memories of Madonna when she was a club kid when I was going to the fun house. She was dating Jellie being at the time. You know, I would always see her in there, you know, in the DJ booth. I was that kid that literally stood outside that DJ booth was just looking up all night. - All night. - So sick. - You know, and I'd say, see her in there and like those are her summer early days, you know, holiday. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the secrets album is my favorite Madonna album. And then she she doing secret to now. Confession to no confession. Confession. Confession. It's about the week. Confession. It's too summer. Yeah. A lot of the way she's coming out of the gate. Yeah. I'm focused on dance floor dance music and what it's about. What it's really I really hope New York gets activated. Like I hope we're all outside. I need it like I'm here for this. We need Madonna back right now. We do more than ever. We do. There are a few years where I was like, maybe less Madonna, but right now, but you know, we need more Madonna. We need shorty back right now. More Madonna. I mean, somebody's got to show these kids the way. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. With a strong point of view like she has and a reference that she has. So yeah, man, yeah. Just get a poppin. I mean, the way girl her record still go. I mean, I've been banging ray of light like that. Just that out. It's that album's crazy. Yeah. Like slept on maybe her best album for me. Yeah. I'm safe. That was the one I was most connected to with her for sure. And then I was reading about that was like after she had her daughter. And it was like very spiritual for her. And I feel just like our sons two and a half. I feel very connected to that record right now. I listen to it literally every single day. And her daughter makes fire music too. She does. She does. She does. She's incredible. I really love some of her tracks. Like that group of girls. Yeah, a little girl. A little shy girl. They're doing really interesting stuff. They're cool. There's a lot of interesting stuff happening. That's why I hate the sentiment of like the dance floor instead. I'm like, there's so many interesting things happening in music. If you're looking for it and you're interested and you want to find it, there's, you know, you're throwing your party. You're doing long form sets like these things are out there. You have to be interested. You have to seek out your people. The fuckers got a number one record right now. Fuckers is incredible. Yeah. The party is back this summer. It is. The party is out dead for me. It's like, I don't want to be that guy that's going to stand there and hate on it. No. It's there. We want it back to the floor, but you just like you have to seek it. Like you said, you don't even got to be old. I'm down here. This new shit, but I'm just like, this party. Absolutely. I'm going to get outside. Let's do it. But yo, you, you should, we should throw a party here together sometime. Let's do it. Yeah, I would love to. We're going to run it. We're going to play it together. Yeah, yeah. I mean, one of your playlists, and we need a party, bro. For sure. I'm beautiful. Thank you. Thank you so much for being on the show. This is amazing. It's incredible.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Victor Calderone, a legendary house music DJ from New York, discusses his career, upbringing in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, and his influence on remixing pop records for club audiences.
  2. He recalls his first exposure to the club scene at age 16 at The Funhouse, where baby powder was sprinkled on the floor for dancing, sparking his desire to be part of that world.
  3. Calderone contrasts the patience and depth of past dance music culture with today’s disposable, performative scene, citing the rise of Instagram and branded parties as factors in the decline.
  4. He has started a new residency at Refuge in Bushwick, focusing on intimate, music-driven after-hours sets that begin at 6-7 AM, aiming to educate and inspire younger generations.
  5. He notes rediscovering his vinyl collection and finds value in sharing his musical era with younger audiences, including his 23-year-old son, who recently took an interest in DJing.
  6. Calderone has been with his partner for 27 years, and they share parallels with the host, including a son and a shared building in Tribeca.

Summary:

Victor Calderone joins the podcast "Canal Street Dreams" to discuss his journey as a house music DJ and remixer from Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. He recalls being inspired by his older brother’s vinyl collection and his first visit to The Funhouse at 16, where the smell of baby powder on the dance floor captivated him. Calderone became known for remixing pop hits by Madonna, Kylie Minogue, and Bette Midler, bridging pop and house music for club audiences in the 1990s and 2000s.

He contrasts the patience and storytelling of long-form sets from his era with today's performative, branded club scene, which he believes lacks depth and emotion. To counter this, he started a new residency at Refuge in Bushwick, playing after-hours sets from 6-7 AM onward, emphasizing music and community over sensory overload. He finds joy in rediscovering his vinyl collection and mentoring younger listeners, including his 23-year-old son, who recently began DJing with him.

Calderone also shares personal details, such as his 27-year partnership and living in Tribeca. The conversation highlights his commitment to preserving the authentic, immersive spirit of dance music culture.

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Victor Calderone started a new residency at Refuge in Bushwick, a 500-capacity venue with a phenomenal sound system and an intimate feel.

He grew up in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, sharing a bedroom with his older brother who was a DJ. He learned by listening to him, digging through his vinyl collection, and reading the credits.

At age 16, his brother took him to the Funhouse, an after-hours club where John Jellybean Benitez was the resident DJ. He was amazed by the bass pressure and the baby powder sprinkled on the floor for dancing.

He believes patience is missing; people now want instant gratification instead of allowing long-form sets to unfold. He feels current music consumption is disposable and lacks depth and emotion.

He focuses on deep, non-performative house music, often playing long sets of 10-12 hours. He also enjoys rediscovering tracks from his vinyl collection.

He is proud and finds it wild to see his 23-year-old son dig into his collection and discover records that mean a lot to him. They have even done their first back-to-back DJ set together.

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