Dakota's Ricotta: Wednesday, September 16th, 2026

♪ Good morning, girlies, it's the tallos ♪ ♪ It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes ♪ ♪ It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know ♪ ♪ We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast ♪ - It sound amazing. - Welcome back to the toast, and happy. What is that? - Hump-doh! - Wendover, Gatay, and Wendy. - Hump-doh, we love an important day. - And Wendy, yes, we are both playing ping. - Yes. - Happy Wednesday, it's Hump Day, an important day of the week, kind of structurally, kind of an integral part, some might say, and I'm joined here by one of my favorite swirlies in the universe. - That's so sick. - It's jox. Joxfulay. - Sort of like the top swirly, head swirly in charge. - Well, I feel like, no. - Because I am also-- - Are you the number one swirly in this group? - Ty for first. - I'm the head swirly in charge, I think. - I don't know that that's true, actually, like factually. - I think that I am. - Should we make merch? - Kind of have Jack's Taylor made number one guy in this group, merch. We should make number one swirly in the universe group. - Oh, sure. - My merch, sure. - Merch alert. - Not merch alert. - No, I hope everybody's having a great day. I watch dancing with the stars. I say it's kind of all I can think about, like, take me to Paris and dance for a baguette with me, you know? Like, I can't stop thinking about Paris baguette for "By Julie and Huff." - Was that in promotion? - Sponsored? - Was that sponsored by Paris? - No, Paris baguette. It's like an all-bond pond. It's like a chain of like bakeries. - I'm thinking of what I thought it was like for the new season of Emily and Paris. I didn't know why we were dancing in Paris. - They had like a sponsored segment prior to that with like a shout out to our sponsor and then "Julianne" choreographed a dance for Paris baguette. And it's like Paris baguette. I've only meant to one. There's like one in Times Square, but it's like an airport chain. - Yes, yes. - It's not like, it's Paris in name only, you know? Like, I don't think the Parisians claim one part of Paris baguette. - I feel like Julianne was told like choreographed dance for Paris baguette and she didn't ask any further questions. - Oh, I'm actually so glad you brought that up because I saw Julianne on the dancing with the started podcast explaining the whole choreography, ready? - Okay. - First of all, this was such a big deal. - I didn't bring that by the way, like you did. - No, no, the choreography in Julianne. Like she told this insane story. - He loved it. - He loved it. - So Julianne was basically saying just sort of like context. Contextually, this was such an important dance for Julianne because she has a choreographed dance. - I think every dance is important for Julianne. - But that's the thing. She hasn't choreographed since 2015. Since she won her Emmy with Derek. Yeah, and so this was like sort of her big comeback for a sponsored thing. And so actually the choreography and just like the scene that they were setting in general was inspired by this whirlwind evening. Julianne had in Paris with this guy. She said it was like all very PG, but it was like this Parisian man like took her all over Paris to like the love bridge, the lock bridge. - Is that who Jan Ravenick played? - Yes, they shared a kiss at the end of the night and it was like all very inspired by this sort of whimsical evening Julianne Huff spent in Paris. Sponsored by Paris Piguet. - And did you go out of your way to listen to the Dancing with the Stars podcast? Or how did that find you? - I feel that I will not even answer such an insulting question because you know I just saw a clip on TikTok. Like no, I did not go out of my way. I don't even listen to my own podcast. I don't even listen to my husband's podcast. You think I'm listening to the Dancing with the Stars podcast? - Yes, your show. - Hosted by Andy Richter. They're operating like on all cylinders. They've got Caitlin Bristol on TikTok. They've got the Andy Richter podcast. Then they said there was some other like after show hosted by someone like it's a lot. - Yeah, it is a lot but they have so many personalities and they don't know what to do with them. Like Robert Erwin standing there. - It's true, it's true, it was a family affair. So I'm sure our first story is Dancing with the Stars. - It was actually my last story and be like TV recap. Just for anyone who's not watching Dancing with the Stars but as someone who used to not watch Dancing with the Stars, I just want to say like it's added a lot of joy and value into my life. I love dance actually. Like I love two dance. I love to watch dance. I love the art of dance when they did the opening number. Like that does everything for me. - Yeah, and it's very rare that like shows these days really put on a production where it's like they're firing on all cylinders. Choreography, music, lights, camera, wardrobe. It's a fabulous show. And yet Jack and I are very late, very, very late. - And we've got 35 seasons. - Yeah and the off chance at US listening like don't watch, it's just a fun addition to your weekly rotation. It's light. You see some of your faves. There's like low key drama on an offline. I'm really enjoying it. Two night, two hour each premiere is asking a lot of me. - Yeah. - And it is giving like OG ABC Chris Harrison energy. - But thankfully, I'm not busy this week. - I'm available, yeah. - Thankfully, it's not the Redheads recording this week and I have to read, I don't have plans this evening. So I'm sad, Bruno really enjoyed it as well. - Ben enjoyed it too. - I was acted in a watch with me. - Ben couldn't believe how many of his friends were on it. Like Tyler. - Tyler Seila. - Yeah, it was sort of like a family affair. We didn't know who to post for, you know? - Yeah, so, oh, you know what? Oh wait, I guess we'll say this for the recap, but I want to just talk about something else. - Let's just talk about something else. It's Wednesday. - It's Wednesday. - It's Wednesday. - Wearing pink, let's get to the stars. - What else went down yesterday? - I'm recording a picture on yesterday that's like extremely contested. So as I just, like peeped in the comments. - So here's the thing. Jack and I were recording a podcast yesterday where like I genuinely had one of the most fun times of my life and I played mahjong with my friends yesterday and I like literally, it was like, you guys, you did this like amazing picture and you guys should do it at home with your friends. Where we did the 50 states challenge. We said we were gonna do it last week. We literally were like, that's such a funny idea. So Jack and I sat here and we tried to, and I don't want to spoil it, but like we got pretty far. And we sort of like vlog podcasted it for Patreon. People are hating it. And you know what? We are not making meaningful content if we aren't getting contested in the comments, you know? - Yeah, I didn't like read the comments yesterday. I just sort of moved on with my day. And as I was sitting here, like I see, I have my list. I don't want to spoil it, but I have my states right here in a list of states. - I was like, oh, what did they think? - What did they think? - Oh my god, I ran scared away. - No, here's the thing. - Do I'm afraid? - I am not going to let a couple of comments get in the way of my educational advancement. Like how many opportunities are there as a woman later in life to learn? Things I should have learned in high school. - This is what I'm always saying. - Yeah, so sorry, I took a minute on my Patreon to learn a little geography. And first of all, it was hilarious. I don't even know what people are talking about. I think maybe they're judging it before they listen. - I would agree. Like the concept might not sound riveting, but it's never about the concept. - The concept is merely a vessel, you guys. - Yeah, it's a shell for us to do our thing. - To break out of. - I'm just, I'm feeling dancing from dancing with the stars. - I know. - Bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap. - Of course, I feel like a natural part of watching the show is like you envision, like what could I do? - Especially with Fibula up there. - Yeah. - Really starting to see myself on the street. - The podcaster, it's possible. And like actually, I think there's no world in which I would ever make it past the first week. - You know what? - It is so hard. - When Kanye wrapped that ever since Trump became president, like he could see himself being president. Do you remember that? - Yeah, ever since Fibula. - When I'm dancing with the stars. - I can see myself on the ends of the stars, except for the fact that like, mass singer Jen Affleckate, I'll call it, has shown me that I could never. - Also as an empath and a boy mama, I actually could not watch the end of last night's episode. Like I was actually in physical pain with a K-2. - We have to stuff to how that gets to the stars. - What else should we talk about? What did you mean for dinner? - Oh my gosh, I made tacos for everyone. And for me, I made a stuffed pepper taco because I'm in my husband's era. But for the kids, they had tortillas, I had tortilla. And it was just so good, so hardy. - You know something weird, I've never asked tell you what happened to me at dinner. - Was you at for dinner? - I went out, you know, it was like early and I was like let's kill some time. I went out, well let's say where we went, a great place. And like, you know, they treat you like family. - What? - No, and then I remember I have something to tell you. - Oh, okay, so now I feel like I don't want to tell my story. - No, no, where'd you go where they treat you like family? - No, no, it was just like a neighborhood spot. - Did you see they went to Sarafina on Somu? - Of course I did, at the time hotel. - Yeah, that's where Taylor ordered all the desserts. - But I was like finally to tell me. - Is that what you wanted to tell me? - Some shine for Sarafina. - No, no. - Okay, okay, I'm like, okay. - I'm just thinking about like your restaurant that feel like family. 'Cause I feel like you were trying to like give us a clue. Oh, you went to Olive Garden. - Sure. - When you're here, your family. - Let's say for argument take, I went to Olive Garden. And you know what, actually, I don't want to tell the story anymore, like it's ruined. Just tell me what you have to tell me. - Guess who messaged me this morning. - Oh, don't even brag, she messaged me too. - Well, she messaged me. And she- - Are you trying to get in touch with you? - Sydney Huffer. Cindy Huffer. Them Huffers. - Why don't you couldn't get in touch with me? - She wrote me at 11 PM yesterday. I wrote back at 8 AM. I think that's like a normal time to respond. - She couldn't get in touch with you. - What did she say that? - No, she said I messaged Claudia, but she doesn't follow me, so she may not see it. - Oh, I follow her on TikTok. I just want to say, but I follow her back on Instagram this morning. - Of course. - You guys know our favorite meal prepper, who we can't stop talking about. She wrote to me. Can I just say how flattered I am to be shouted out on the toast two weeks in a row crying laughing so happy Thank you all the hype has been so nice. I love it. You guys have to follow her then hop for she's seriously an inspiration She seriously it makes me a mother fucking ration on a cook harder No, it's a faster cook harder. It makes me want to like prepare harder of course elements of my life of course I need like plastic bins like that's what I've learned like she has such good Tupperware If you don't have good Tupperware You can't be like can't think preparing can't think straights. I also cabinet of Tupperware It's just like lids and bottoms that don't match like It's hard. I need to like carve out a couple hours in my week The thing is it's literally every other day at this point. I don't I feel like she's sort of out of this stage for washing berries because I'm always washing berries people complain about the price of berries like for me It's the washing of the berries, and yes, sometimes I like to like wash them with my fruit cleaner put them in the nice Call and dirt fruit cleaner is really not necessarily waters fine. I love fruit cleaner. No, I let them soak I And that would be good if like we consume the normal amount of berries But I would be doing that every other day and listen I also have to watch dancing with the stars now Let me ask the group of question because this is something jack and I sort of butted heads over in the hamptons This is I'm with you. I don't do this at home. It's like wash as I use No, I washed from the grocery store and then I put the washed ones in the fridge Yes, but over the summer we were just like putting shit in the fridge because there was no accountability Everyone was just like buying berries and then if you bought the berries for the family You're not also gonna wash them and also I wasn't always buying them I think that if you purchase berries and you're putting them in the fridge It is your responsibility as you've been being an apparent to wash up before you put them in the fridge But the way that I wash them is It's like not the same as other people. Well, I think everybody has their own my friend Margo who hosts our maja in group She always washes her fruit. She's like a clean freak and she washes it with vinegar Let me tell you sometimes those grapes taste like vinegar. Oh It's not a perfect formula. I think water, you know is sort of sufficient No, I like the fruit cleaner. I like my system, but at this rate, it's it's so frequent So I would love to be like Cindy and have a thing of cut and washed strawberries and everything but I Would have to quit my job It's true being like a fruit Provider like a toddler fruit mom is so much work It is but her kids are a little bit older so I think they eat like a normal man fruit because they also eat veggies Right, they've read other stuff besides fruit like we're exclusively eating fruit. Yeah And you know, it's actually made me eat a lot more fruit. Yeah, I always throw a grape in there. I'll give a pop one in what are your thoughts on pre-cut fruit? Necessary evil Yeah, I feel that at one point in my life, I would have said like absolutely not And I do think it's location specific the kosher grosser here happens to have fantastic cut-up fruit Citarella fantastic. You can't go into any old grocery store and buy their cut-up fruit Like Russian roulette you cannot it also is like can be a carrier of disease And that's how they like get away with giving you like the fruit. That's about to expire in two hours The bot and also like the bottom of the fruit like by the peel like you get the worst parts of the fruit So you have to use your judgment. I would say it's not a cure all but if you have people coming over in the next hour and the fruits I'm going to go bad before they get here. Sure, but you got a spring for the expensive grocery store in my opinion Yeah, you've got to really take a good hard look at it and it's all about the eye, you know This is just like circling the drain to talk about dancing with the stars I think we should push objects with the stars to the first story just so we don't keep like waiting into that topic Okay, but even though like once I'm on on subjects. I could stay on subject. Are there other like major subjects worth discussing today? Like still Ed Sheeran McElmore gay. Oh, yeah, it's like devolving Yeah, it's like kind of Just like random story like ruining Ed Sheeran's career like I know It's crazy how you know a decade of fame, goodwill, music can be over in an afternoon It's just sort of beautiful to see. Well, I would wonder how the man on the street feels Because I know how I feel I know how I don't feel like and you know how finiest feels and the bots in the comments But like the average person who average ticket holder and I feel like an average person goes to an Ed Sheeran concept like who really As it makes the war in Israel their personality like right. Yeah. What do you think about it? Yeah, will this affect Streams sales tickets. Yeah, so that's what I really want to know because I feel like I'm only hearing from Like the two sides frankly online, but that's not everyone that's actually not even most people It's so true like those who touch grass. What do you think? No, not even about being online versus being offline Just being like so in this conflict not everyone is living in the Middle East right now like Mentally mental. Yeah, so I would like to hear from those people who are just like the passive Ed Sheeran fans like does this change anything for you? Sound off in the comments, you know Because I'm not convinced that it's like so bad for Ed Sheeran It'll be bad for him like in the industry and amongst his friends and like right right parties and everything right amongst him He has so many fans like does this actually change anything. I don't know and outside of that Other stories are are good there. They came together and I don't feel like anything happened yesterday They came together in a natural way. No, I could I would say there is there's what to discuss like don't worry Koji Don't worry. I do worry. I do don't worry Koji. We'll keep your secret and what is my secret? I was just about to ask you What do you think is like well? I can't say it because it's my secret But let me think like what is it? What are the toaster sort of to keep do you have any secrets? What was that segment? We were gonna start Oh corduon is truth where you tell us the truth Oh, what's that say we're gonna start tons amazing And I just like share our truth of the day Yeah, and you know it's like in order for the segment to like have legs it could be any truth about anything It doesn't just have to be your truth where it could be like a hot take yeah Okay My pants are unzipped that is my current truth and so I'm just like being very particular about the placement of my card again When I sit down in pants like I just don't feel it's necessary that the closure stays closed and that's my that's how cojourner sees it And that's another segment how Koji sees it I can't wait for Jane Lynch to be in the friends and family audience for Harry Shum Jr Yes And we'll see and like do stop saying he's a Grey's Anatomy actor They keep trying they they don't want to say glee because it's just so obvious that he's a dancer because he was the dance He was a choreographer So they keep saying like Grey's Anatomy actor that's not it and it's not because Grey's Anatomy has been on for 25 years And it's actually like on ABC and it's all in the family and Glee was what like how many years It was like it was six six. Yeah, yeah five or six seasons spring summer joggers Joggers. Oh, I saw Nina leeks getting TMZ on the street being asked about KJ beer man like I Clicked leaks out of it. That's so unfair to ask you but she's like She's having Kim's back Well, she was I feel really walking a tight rope. I don't think she said anything pro or against She said that she had spoken to Kim briefly via text and she doesn't know how she's doing But I'm sure she's doing on well as what she said and then she also said um, you know, we all parent differently Which is like can mean anything oh Yeah, yeah, no, I didn't choose x. I don't want to talk about the story again um unless we have to I know and we will talk about it again because like we're not gonna let it slide but Not extremiously No, there aren't any official updates in that disgusting story. 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Ed Sheeran addresses Michael Moore's firing from tour over his speech backlash. So Ed Sheeran posted Instagram. No tab statement. No tab statement. Multi-slide, you know, we had to get there. By the way, this saga is obviously interesting, but I am at my limit with reading people's notes app apology statements in a carousel, like it's a lot of reading. And the font is getting smaller. So true. He said, I'm appalled by the conflict between Israel and Palestine. That's a really hot take. Like, I think that he's so brave for saying that because no one's saying that, you know, no one would say that. It's, and I know he's wanted to like avoid kind of putting himself in the middle of the controversy, but I think to say something so unique. So polarizing. Brave and polarizing. He should be commended for the suffering and pain caused on both sides is a human tragedy. There are too many. Okay. Okay, both sides. Like there are too many wars across the world causing a measurable pain. None of which should be tolerated. He's like, okay, so to be clear, he is against war. Okay. Michael Moore asked to join my drinking news. Oh, did you feel like this tea was a little shady? Michael Moore asked to join my tour last year. And I agreed because I respect him as an artist. Michael Moore came to my house with a gun and said, I want to be on tour with you. Is that how easy it is to open for the biggest touring act in the country? Now you just have to ask. Taylor, please, I would like to open for you. Let me know. Carous Sponsors from Turkey. She said as with all my support acts, I agree that they play a set list of their choosing. After Michael Moore's performances at my New Jersey show, venues on my upcoming tour dates communicated that they would pull the shows if he was still supporting. I was informed that the stance was based on how Michael Moore conveyed part of his message during his performance, rather than on everything that was said. I spoke with the venues at length. He's speaking so vaguely. Like, I don't know what I was talking about. But I feel like he is trying to like, throw up a couple of flares of things that we should know. Like, first, Michael Moore asked him to be on tour. To that it wasn't every, nobody cares about your opinion in general. It was the way that you said things, which is the reason why you're getting thrown off the tour. All we can try to build a bridge. One of those people was Robert Kraft. Again, another flare. One of those people was Robert Kraft, not the only person. Right. He's just one of the most high-profile stadium owner. I was also involved in direct talks with promoters along with activists on both sides to try and find a mutual resolution for all. But the venues and promoters' decision was final. Macklemore, coming off the tour, was the promoters decision. It was not mine. I love that. Throw the promoters under the bus. Because who are you? Because nature was happy to do nothing. Like, who are these faceless promoters? Get up. You know? So we need like an entity that we can everybody complain so that we can move on. Good strategy. It's crazy that he's not like hiding it better and like trying to be accountable. He's like, this was not me. It wasn't me. I don't control anything in my life. I have no opinions. I have no stance. He said Macklemore's contract for the tour was with the promoter. Not me. I would never let down the fans who had made plans nor would I have been in the touring crew and the other support ex-musicians who rely on me for work and to make a living. I've always used my platform and music to bring people from all backgrounds and cultures together and this will never change. Those who have been to one of my shows will know that they are about unity. Joy, escapism, love and a place for everyone to feel. Welcome. Like I do actually, even though yesterday I said like share it as spineless and I stand by all that. Like I do actually feel bad for him because this is a person who like genuinely went out of his way. He's not ever like historically spoken on this conflict. And like we said yesterday, if you don't want to get involved in this really Palestinian conflict, I do feel that that is your right. It means don't deeply complicated. And you know what? I could understand like not wanting to have a take on it. Honestly, I can't. So I feel that he went so far in his way even though like selecting Macklemore is such a choice. Of course. That like it almost feels like, you know, I feel that this is a person who really goes out of their way to stay out of it. And is at the center of like genuinely one of like the most historically hotly contested conflicts in global history. So like I would have, you know, more understanding for him and ever understanding. Except for the fact that he chose or agreed to have Macklemore open for him. Like this is Macklemore's whole thing now. Does he even sing anymore? He just goes up there and rants and raves in his kaffir. I don't think so. I don't think he releases new music. So yes, it's such a choice. And you know what? Like that. This is sort of what you get when you hire someone like that. So it's unfortunate. I guess he's also saying maybe like he didn't hire. Yeah. He's just trying to voice. He's saying I didn't hire. He said I am not complicit. I have my personal views on the devastating conflict just because I choose not to speak publicly. It doesn't mean I don't have them. And it doesn't mean I don't care. Nor does it mean I don't support causes in my own personal way. Which I just think as a statement, take out whatever we're talking about. I think is a solid statement. I think that you can care about things and not have them be a part of your public persona. It doesn't mean that you don't have to stop everything. He's There is a reason I do not use my professional platform for politics my audience includes young people often children of all backgrounds those who come to my shows do not expect a political forum I respect Macklemore's strength of purpose to stand up and shout for what he believes however there is room for multiple-inch approaches to the same end piece I choose to use my fame and platform to be a place of safety in sanctuary to maintain diplomacy and keep conversations open not closed if we only focus on shouting the loudest nothing will ever change there are different approaches to being an advocate for change not a bad statement it's too long and I can't lie I didn't even get to the end by the time you just read so that's like the first time I've heard it this then started a domino effect of other people who are involved in the tour in big and small ways releasing their own notes app carousel statement and dropping out as well yes so Phineas has been heard from he will be dropping out of the shows that he was meant to open so I'm very happy for all those who are set to be in attendance yeah I feel that net net less shows where Phineas is on stage and Macklemore as well I'm personally very pleased Phineas is probably my biggest op in the industry this not surprising to hear that he he is like a long very public history of being just blatantly anti-Semitic this does not shock me and I think that like the less work there is for Phineas to do the better Lucas Graham has also dropped out what is he saying since I was seven years so I have him in my like like song somewhere let me search my like songs and then also like the band Aaron Row I'm not familiar Lucas Graham he's things you're not there and then he also sings what do you think of with Lorna Lina be sure he doesn't sing seven years old well oh it's not on my like songs but yeah oh that's neither here nor there yeah sorry I just want to know like what I know him from do you think Lorna Lina is going to make a statement I don't I don't think she should yes seven years and love someone in mama said mama said that feels like mama said there'd be days like this day later that's the best song ever and then also I think like what shook people was that like the band is that Aaron Row I don't know but like I guess like the people who play the instruments for Ed Sheeran yoga I think that might be a band devastating they play the instruments for Ed Sheeran right that's what I'm saying so like the infrastructure of the show is now I come rise it's not just the opening acts because the thing is while you know I they're sort of this necessary thing we are okay if there are no openers but if there's no band at the Ed Sheeran show just edit his guitar which I just want to say the last time I went to an Ed Sheeran concert it was literally just like they can find musicians oh so of course the band is Boiga they're his back he man they shared that they stood against the silencing of macklemore by Zionist lobbyists no okay just say Jews just say Jews Zionist lobbyists yeah uh I felt that that made their intentions quite clear when they use that phrase I mean everyone's intentions are quite clear and this is just it's so funny you just never know like what's gonna be what's gonna right is Ed Sheeran gonna continue to do the shows I mean he has to first of all like this will blow over these are huge shows this is so much money this is hundreds of millions of dollars like and it's not just him and this is what he was trying to say like sure he could have kept macklemore on to prove a point and stick it to the man but then okay your shows get cut in half say that's crew band lighting craft services everybody out of the paycheck like people rely on him to work and he has to make like sound decisions as a boss yeah yeah no I I feel that feel that and no but I'm saying like like when you think of Ed Sheeran it's like well he makes every decision and he makes every dollar and it's like it's really not how it works but people forget that like we always say that cast and crew but cast and crew no I think like hundreds of people work on a stadium like this yeah and they're not just other openers and the people whose name you know I'm building on going I went to an Ed Sheeran concert once and I have to tell you like it was genuinely unenjoyable he like does this thing where he like loops his own guitar that's how surprised like his backing band dropped out I'm telling you there was not one other human being on stage the entire time at MetLife Stadium like sorry you're gonna need a little bit more pizzazz then you need a little guitar and you're like foot pedal sir so I remain unaffected by this like the people I hated Phineas like I hate them still like nothing's really changed for me um not to center myself in the conflict of course but I'm doing fine I figured I wonder who will open for him because on the one hand it's like no one touches with the 10-foot pole but on the other hand like this could be a huge opportunity for a burgeoning artist yeah but it's a huge opportunity to like kind of step in it like there is no winning gear honestly yeah I don't know I'll be interested to see who does it and I will have mad respect or maybe he just goes no openers but you don't even think there's someone whose name we don't even know who'd want to open for him you know what I mean like there is someone out there who wants their shot enough to open for him of course does that service Ed Sheeran in anyway well it's like this random person of the story you have to you can't just like start to show at 9 p.m I mean like I guess you can and I don't know if there are any Zionist artists out there who'd love to but I don't even think he would have one okay I will do it I think he doesn't want anyone no of course solarizing whatsoever but I could see him having ready like an Israeli artist and a Palestinian artist like sharing this stage together that actually would be like a decent solve I just want to say it would like Matissejo no there's definitely like a band I feel like I've heard of like a band that's like Israeli but it's like mixed and they all are Adam no no no not having Israel like two people to go up there and fight like there is like a band that already exists it already exists that's like mixed artists oh so sign them up sign them up yeah or cancel the tour like no he's not going to cancel the tour he can't it's too many well selfishly I'm sure he makes a lot of money but also like other people to it doesn't even like need money he doesn't have a phone but it's it's other people like that would be so immature so true he doesn't have a phone power through you can do this it will blow over but and people can do heart this and it's like oh he's in a rough spot and I I feel for him like there's no right move to make at this point but like you literally allowed Malcolm or to be your opener when he brings absolutely nothing to your program except for divisiveness controversy if you can't handle the heat and political agenda like so I don't feel bad for what were you thinking I know what we want to be this person like you really want to be this and it's hard to be this person it's really hard it is borderline look I think this is proof that it's literally impossible to be this person who's totally like everyone can come to my show I'm not divisive I won't say x y or z it's literally impossible who are we just saying it's possible and it's easy it's possible and it's easier when you don't choose macamore to be your opener well of course if you can't handle the heat ed stay away from macamore like I said Alex Warren take one look at you you dig in me out wouldn't he be a great opener for Ed Sheeran of course he's kind of like Genzi Ed Sheeran and I would I would go but like does Alex Warren want to be a part of this like who would genuinely willingly want to be a part of us who wants to be famous badly enough brook's Nader me no you're an ARP Nader sisters would do it oh like a little dancing troop yeah love that um so we'll see what's next yeah but I do think there's people that would do it yeah and they shouldn't or if the like I don't know if those are the people that Ed wants but I guess at this point no no what does that thing they say about beggars I'm saying not even like you know some Zionist artist no no just like someone who doesn't care enough about the conflict to take a stand and could use the eyeballs yeah it just sounds like we're picking up random people off the street like no like you know some like a hot new artist on Spotify or whatever yeah our next story Melissa McCarthy and Clive Owen are the spitting image of Jambane Ramsey's parents in a first photo from a new Netflix drama so I didn't know this was happening but Netflix has released the first photo from the hotly anticipated new series the murder of Jambane Ramsey in the photo Melissa McCarthy and Clive Owen are in character as Patsy and Jambane Ramsey Jambane's parents according to Netflix the show will be a dramatization of one of the most infamous unsolved murder cases in American history and will also cover the devastating personal and public reckoning that followed the death of Jambane Ramsey the cast also includes Garrett headland Allison you're kidding Allison Pills she's from Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen right who does she play with the nerdy friend and Chris Bauer they are cops investigating the crime who plays the brother I don't know who plays the brother Burke oh my god I didn't realize Garrett headland went like this sorry I'm just taking a minute to process like my boyfriend getting acting gigs love that um I also did not know this was happening I wonder sort of what take they're going to put on it because there's this is an unsolved mystery there's lots of theories you know it was the brother yada yada um I wonder under like what theory they're putting their right behind. - They're gonna put forth. But for Melissa, she said she loves Patsy. She thinks the show is doing a really great version of the story. She said I hope we're giving the family their humanity as well as telling the story, noting that she thinks speculating that they killed their own daughter is a blood sport. So we know where she stands. There's, right, a prevailing theory that conspiracy theorists have is that it was the brother. - Yes, that's what I've heard over the years. - But in 2019, the brother settled a $750 million defamation lawsuit against CBS after they aired a television series called The Case of Domina Ramsey and suggested he was the culprit. - Oh, slay mama, you don't sue if you have someone to hide. - Yeah, so I don't know. I feel like, and that's just like an easy thing. I think people just want to know who did it. And it's like, oh, there was an older brother in the house. - No, and it's seriously so fucked up. It's like similar to how people just say it's Patrick Lansy 'cause they feel like it that it's convenient for their agenda to say that. It's like, that's a legit person. And who lost his three kids? - Right, this is someone who lost his sister. Like fuck off. - No, and it's like-- - People are so nuts. Like seriously, I'm sorry, never got into true time. - Hard enough for the parents to contend with their daughter's murder. And then-- - Publicly. - Also to be accused of being a part of it or that their son is being accused. It just gets worse and worse. So I think it's time for a human take on this. I know that there's so much, there's podcasts, there's documentaries, like this is seriously like one of the hottest cases in the country of all time. - Of all time. - Top five of all time. But like, I feel like it's never really told in a way that's not salacious. - Yeah, or like theorizing. - Yeah, in a way that's just like sad. - It's 'cause it's such a, it's like almost like a trope now, but it is so sad, like at its core. - Yeah. - Is Jaminé gonna be in it or is she missing a whole time? Like is there an actress playing Jaminé? - Unclear. - Got it. - We only got this one photo. - Yeah. - And they just sort of dropped it randomly. Like I had no idea this was happening. - Yeah, and they look great in character. - Yeah, they do. - So I'm looking forward to this. - At what point do you think we'll see like a dramatized version of Lindsay Clancy? Like in the immediate future or like down the line? I mean, it's so inappropriate. - People do, they turn it around too quickly these days 'cause I think we could get like a bunch of like docu-series for a while and then a dramatized version but I don't think it will be any good. - Yeah, it's also too hot right now. - Yeah, and yeah, it's just, it's too polarizing. Like what side are you gonna come at it from? - Yeah. - So I don't think anyone should do that, but someone will because people are really interested in the subject. - Yeah, and there's sort of like no line people won't cross when it comes to this case, I'm sure you've seen. The juror spoke to like a random YouTube channel. He did not want his voice recorded or his face recorded. He said this has been a nightmare. And his family can't leave the house and he's just like wants to be left the fuck alone. Nightmare. - Yeah, yeah. That juror, the world in everyone's side. - And I do like respect his sort of insistence on keeping his identity and whatever. The way I would pay probably an unlimited amount of money to watch like a sit down interview with him with somebody just like normal and completely unbiased. Like I kind of like need to know what because you know, we've heard the version from a lot of the other jurors, but they all say the same thing and it's sort of like group think at that point. Like what does his lone wolf say? Like what was his experience? - If he came out and started telling his story, then you could make the argument that he did hold out to be the number one guy in that group, you know. - Right. - His intent. - Shins seem. - Yeah, the fact that he hasn't. - His intention seemed very pure, you know. - That was him for some. - I've read like a little bit about him, but there's not that much known about him and also I could explain. - And there's a lot of things mixed up up. - You told me that. - Yes, I said yesterday that I heard he was gay. I don't know that that's true, but then also that he had an ex-wife. So like seriously. - And you heard that there was like a rest or something, but it was like- - No, there were charges. - But it was an allegation that was dropped, then I heard. - Listen, I didn't read the core filings 'cause I have a job, but I didn't make that up like. - No, no. You said they're saying the streets are saying the people who are like against it, they're saying he's a woman beater. - You read it somewhere or heard it somewhere on TikTok, but that doesn't mean that it's true. So there's- - No, but there is. There is like a police, there's like a record that they had the police called, I think. - That they had the police call. - Leave me out of this. But having the police calls is different than like having a record. - Well, I think that also makes sense as to why he was able to be a juror 'cause he doesn't have a criminal record. - Yeah, but you can be a juror with a criminal record, correct? - Oh, can you? - Because there are things that you can't do with a criminal record, but I've never heard being a juror is one of those things. You just might get dismissed, right? If you have like a relevant criminal background, I'll ask chat. - I was just about to- - Can you be a juror if you have a criminal record? A question mark? - I feel like no. - Yes, potentially. Having a criminal record does not automatically prevent you from serving on a jury, but the rules depend on the state and on whether the conviction was a felony or a mismiener. - Mm, and I guess also if it's relevant, like if you were arrested for domestic violence and you're sitting on the domestic violence trial. - Of course. - Of course. - That's gonna be a no. - Are you ready for an next story? - Mm-hmm. Dakota Johnson and machine gun Kelly were spotted together in New York City as they escaped to Taylor Swift's apartment on date and night. - What? - Dakota Johnson and machine gun Kelly turned to Taylor Swift to help with a little seclusion during their recent night out in New York City. A source told Page Six tellers that her friends used her New York City properties before and Dakota and Colson wanted privacy. So they headed to her apartment. - They were both- - I mean, they're not like that famous that they can't get privacy anywhere but Taylor Swift's apartment. They were both spotted at her Tribeca apartment Friday night before heading to Estella for dinner. - I'm so over machine gun Kelly. And to be honest, like I am side eyeing Dakota Johnson for that thing. - What is she doing? - I feel that up until recently, she's had a pretty good like track record. Obviously Chris Martin's a great get. Even the whole role model thing. Like I understand a little fling with a younger man. He's cute, he's funny. I've seen him on therapist, he's got a personality. I really am not into like this at all. This seems like a bad choice for her. - He seems so toxic. - That was in percent. And I'm sorry, like when you have a, didn't have a baby him in the Megan Fox. And then like you are no longer with your mother, baby's mother like a month after birth. Like I just think that that's sinister behavior. - Yeah, for sure. Like how I feel about Pete Davidson, like I'm sorry. I think there's something weird about like a man. Either you're the worst fucking partner ever or you left. Like if she broke up with you, it's like what does that say about you? If you broke up with her, what does that say about you? - Yeah. - So I don't know, he gives me like extremely bad vibes. Maybe at one point, like I definitely thought he was cute and I love that song, Bloody Valentine. But like for me, the shine has worn off. And like to me, he just seems you're right, toxic. - I don't like toxicity. - Me neither. - I know that's like a hot chain. - I'm also against crime. - But also, but like I feel like, no one on its face like toxicity, but people like tolerate it. Some people think it's like hot and they don't know how to like. - So people are attracted to it. - They don't know how to be in a relationship without it sort of like keeps things hot and fresh. - Taylor Frankie Paul. - She's an extreme case. But I think some people like a little bit of toxicity or if someone's like too nice, they like get bored. - I have no tolerance for toxicity. - If you even like makes like an act that suggests you could have a potential toxicity, like I'm running for me. - Like what are you doing? - If you tell like a weird lie or like I just, I completely agree. - You're trying to like mess with me like. - I find it so off-putting. It's like I have to wear a business. I have like a lot of things to do. I can't deal with you too. - Yeah, so just know I'm against toxicity. - Thanks for clearing that up. - And I want world peace. - Of course, and harsher punishment for parole violators. Three very hot takes. - Yeah. - So they're saying they're into each other. Yada, Yada, people were sort of quaking about this. They were mad that we didn't talk about it on Monday. But yeah, it was sort of like Wednesday news. - Oh, as I was saying, this is so not Monday worthy. - No, no. - Especially after like a lot happened over the weekend. - Yeah. - Like I met Alex Earl, like we're not talking about machine guns. - And Taylor Swift went into the chiefs game. - I do find it weird that like Taylor would allow this. But I guess she's like, that's a good friend, you know? Like, just letting-- - What are you doing at her apartment with her not there? Like, no, I don't know. I think it's weird. Like, yes, she has a history of like lending her real estate. But like in dire circumstances, like so be turn her, of course. This is not dire. Like first of all, there's so many private members clubs. Like the celebrities get so much privacy in New York. I actually think going to Taylor Swift's apartment, where you know there's like a media tent, pretty much permanently parked, is giving, we don't want privacy. - Were they pre gaming? - I don't know, what the fuck they were doing. - Just go to the restaurant. Have you been to that restaurant, Estella? - No. - Have you heard of it? - No, I'm so out of the loop. - I wonder what's the cuisine? - I'm gonna guess Greek. - I'm gonna guess Italian. - Yeah, I guess that's a better guess. Like Estella. - Estella, one of the most celebrated restaurants in the United States. It's an intimate downtown bistro. That can be experienced in many ways, whether it's a thrilling dinner in the dining room. - Just tell us what cuisine it is. - bistro is giving French. - Okay, I, menus. Oh, dinner menu, dinner. - I can't believe it doesn't say like in the bio what the cuisine is. - No, it doesn't. Like there's steak, there's aged duck, pork collar. - It's French, it's French. - Yeah. Lobster with the cabbage. Be sure so French But then it's fried our rose Oh, Polo kind of rose. Yeah, and then it also Latin Hamon Iberico Just put your phone away. Just don't I would say it's a global fusion I don't think you like it Anything that you could order on this idea something you would like Do they have they have macro what's that macro? I think it's a fish They have golden tilefish Not kosher tilefish. There's that one thing that you would eat here. There's a pasta. No, I don't see pasta Is there kids menu? There's ricotta dumplings with mushrooms and pecorino ricotta? I love ricotta dumplings like actually there may be my favorite dish I never eaten ricotta This is a crazy menu Yeah, maybe that's why they went to Taylor show department to get something to eat after because the meal was so Because they didn't tell her has good snacks. They didn't like their beef tartar and there's literally like Like 15 things on the menu period. It's like a one sheet. Oh, I hate that And there's that even like appetizers on trace. It's just like 15 items. You know a menu is good When it's not appetizer on trace. It's pre-me secondi I love pre-me secondi. Yeah, and then anti-paste is always there. I get a lot of pre-me's sometimes I don't even make it to secondi Oh, I am like so-go-ndi. Have they call me so-go-ndi I know you you skip out on pre-me's I skip out on pre-me because I'm secondi weaver like I love a secondi. It's like always like a chicken parm like I love secondi And ricotta of course So you said how did you pronounce it ricotta ricotta? ricotta for decotta Literally, she out of the levantus is rolling over in her ballroom dance decotta ordered the ricotta That's beautiful. What do you think they ordered tilefish? I have no idea like I don't know these two at all. He definitely ordered beef tartar Yeah, did they have like a filet mignon or like a shabby beef? Yeah, yeah, I think they got that yeah raw Yeah raw Are you right now you kind of have to go there. Sorry. Okay, patreon Patreon we're going to what was it called the Stella? Where is it? In Tribeca I think right by Taylor sweeps. Oh, right. Okay, so Estella. I'll see if I can get a rest even though after this episode I'll probably get a permanent ban Yeah, only chairs do not look comfortable Oh, I'm used to it. 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As One, A-S-One-O-N-E As you know The name needs work But we'll get there I think the name is okay because you know it explains that we are as one I hope they're available because like there's genuinely only one solution to this problem and we've just figured out there's only one solution as one the as one solution as one incorporated I need to listen to them when the show's over yeah hopefully they're good like do they they literally need to be decent but like they look like a boy band you know like I'm by the way do not even start I'm not getting demonetized for as we on no I'm not going to lose it all for as one I agree we've built that yeah it sounds familiar I feel like I've heard about them very interesting yeah very interesting I know me too I don't know where I heard about them where this idea came to me but I feel like I saw them not them in a dream our fourth store a man to say freed and Thomas Sedoski have split after nine years of marriage to men to say freed affectionately known as Minji and Thomas how do you remember that your brain is like so good I just knew when I like chose a story about her you're gonna be like Minji I wasn't going to because I forgot like if you were if we were doing trivia and it was like what is a man to see for it's like a no I Instagram handle I I might have said like Minkee not even like I wouldn't have gotten that close oh okay well you could say my brains really good but not to spoil anything you should watch a picture on me yesterday yeah not to spoil anything because my if your brain's good what does that make me great the actors confirm their split in a joint statement exclusively to people say that they have been separated for a while and that the decision has ultimately been the right one for their family we've been separated for a while and it's proven to be the right move for us in our family unit we've got each other and it's good G O O D capitalized I actually have some insider tea because I heard that they've been on the rocks for a while ever since she publicly attacked Ariel Charnis he sort of like saw something in her that he didn't like and he's been sort of planning his escape ever since that's what I heard do you think that's her legends a legend do you think that's her what do we just what were we bad for her Minji she did something weird on Instagram again which is why we brought up the Ariel chart and I feel like we got to a place of like hatred but yeah what did she do recently I'm looking up like the toast Amanda safe freed in the podcast up cuz we were saying Minji again recently I meant she did press for the house made she was definitely being weird oh yeah wait yeah it was during the house made era I don't know if I'm gonna get it guys you guys and remember you guys know it's better than me no ourselves it's true we were recently like railing on her Instagram yeah she definitely makes her something bless you thank you I never watched house made but I shouldn't I know it was like all my list of movies and I watched all the everything on the list I wanted to watch Marty supreme and the thing is anytime I get to doing that list it's when Ben's not home and I'm about watching a spooky movie when Ben's not home yeah but like you know you know the twist so that should help also shout out to Shannon Ford who texted me not to continue watching furious cuz it's about child pornography like I'm good thank you Jesus yeah are you ready for our fifth metal story dance and stars recap wait what was the story oh no but you know what that did remind me of I wanted to say something from the Emmys that I had no idea what's happening it was really cute so Kelly Cuoco is like married to some actor she's pregnant as so I just saw a photo of her like literally during that ad break pregnant on the red carpet and I need that dress with her guy and her guy won and he gave such a speech like to her first of all he was like before he got out there how people thank God he was like I am here because of my sobriety like it was so it was so honest and then he was like Kelly Cuoco you are the crown jewel of my life Matilda who I guess is their other daughter I love you the baby in that belly I love you it was so that's so cute it was so beautiful to see a man be like so unabashedly in love and and just like happy with his family like his family with his whole speech I was like who is this guy she got some guy like he's hot he's an actor he won an Emmy and he loves her oh my God it was just like when he won he got up and hugged her and kissed her so hard I was like who the fuck is this guy because he was like Tom Calicchio or something no Tom Kearney Tom Pell Free that's exactly what I said it wasn't there like drama with her with her last divorce or whatever she married Ryan tweeting guess during like you know her big bang million dollar episode she is rich yes I think he was also wealthy if I remember he was like in an air like kind of like a nepo baby oh yeah there was drama financial and then there was another marriage and then there was Tom and I think that's the end of it she's so up one to watch yeah yeah and it's nice to see like a woman move she's so financially independent like she's never going to meet anyone who's rich as her like she's so rich it's nice to see like they're not married her and Tom oh okay I don't judge no not at all but like just interesting I haven't been paying attention yeah I mean they're I was like I didn't recognize her first I'm like oh who's his wife and then I just saw her just and I was like I need that dress like it was really cute it was Christian seriano custom with like cutouts for the crackers yeah really cute okay now are you ready for our fifth and final story dance with the stars recap let me grab my Paris baguette hang on today's episode is brought to you by Paris baguette goals dancing with the stars season premiere voting crashes on night one as host announced that they were throwing out online votes because they couldn't get ABC dot com to work last night the men danced on dancing with the stars and we had an elimination which I didn't know that was happening I know and I was glad because I do think a lot of the times they don't eliminate enough people quickly like sorry this is a competition um uh maybe it's because I liked the person who went home I felt that it was me and like to make like the whole like it's just if I felt sad so let's go through in order of the the dance is what our thoughts were and then we'll talk about the elimination okay I don't know if I'll be able to get it in order but I'll try jack senelson and emis later like great jolly good show jolly good show I liked him I didn't really know a lot about him besides like you know what we discuss here on the toes I think that he was judged like kind of harshly I think they judge based on what they know about you and this is a person who's like has a lot of experience performing live and dancing so I feel like he got harshly judged because he was very fine but at the end of the night I had literally forgotten about him I know but it was like I hope he doesn't go home in hindsight I liked his whole thing and what's interesting that he said was he's not the best dancer on his team you know Savannah bananas aren't like all professional dancers they're baseball players who like you know get jiggy with it and he has a lot of learning to do but he obviously has disparate inside of him and he has the heart of a showman and being a good dancer this is what I learned last night and this is what Harry Shum Jr. was trying to say and it's like sir be so fucking for real being a good dancer actually doesn't really help you because ballroom dance is like not dance first of all and it's so technical you'd actually be better off like being good at math like because all the steps and the counts and this and like having good posture just because you can dance like out of wedding I don't really feel that it makes a huge difference in how you can do in the ballroom unless you don't have any rhythms so I don't completely agree I think when they try and like explain to us how Harry Shum Jr. is having a hard time because he says well that too good of a dancer like Jackie when he said he like his background in dance actually is a disadvantage I was like sir yeah no like that is a bunch of who we I think that yes you still have a well even if you are like a hip-hop dancer rhythmic dancer like a ballet dancer you have a lot to learn still because you don't know ballroom but you have an advantage because you are a dancer yeah but I don't think Jackson really has an advantage no besides like being in front of people it's very scary like the live show element being in front of a live audience so I think that is definitely an advantage because I think some people could be really good but get so nervous that they have no experience ever dancing in front of people let alone on TV so I think his live performance is probably his biggest advantage yeah yeah but I hate it because like a hundred thousand people and also like Jenna Dewan was like oh I'm at a disadvantage because I'm too good of a dancer like please stop please and also like it's actually insulting to our intelligence to some people like have the dancing the talent for dance so yes you have a lot to learn but if you have and the people who don't have that are always going to be moving like a robot like and that's why I feel that Connor Levitt was not having a good night because I don't think he has the innate sense and ability to dance most of these people having two people in eight cents having two people with the same name is so unfair um and actually to the point that they shouldn't have cast two conners whoa one thousand percent yeah like I think that was a mistake it was so unfair like do you know how many people probably texted Connor just and they spelled their names differently by the OR and ER so someone who probably just texted Connor with an O and it didn't count like that's just not fair now I think they'll just do Connor yeah there's no W situation because swallower Connor Levitt was eliminated but yeah that's reason enough to not choose one of them this season and choose them the next season agreed like I'm sorry we can't process all of that it's just it's not fair it's the same way how like when you dance at the very end like you have less time to get votes true next we have reality star Tyler Cameron with Sharna Burgess he did really good yeah Ben was like oh he's gonna be bad I'm like no no Ben I heard that he can dance yeah and I think he is obviously has lots of room for improvement but I think in his package he was like being really funny and he's so handsome. - Everyone's just gonna love him. - They are gonna start the process of falling in love with him, and I saw somebody say this on the TikTok comment, and it's so true. He's like, he was our generation, like Rob Roush, like reality star hotshot, and I'm looking forward to younger generation of people falling in love with the Tyler Cameron that we know and love. - No, and that is what's going to happen, and his dancing will improve, but he will get votes because people just like him. - And he has the baseline. - Because people just like, and he has his existing fans, but like whenever he's on TV, people fall in love with him. - And he's a fine dancer, like he can get a lot better. It's not like he's starting from scratch. - Yeah. - Reality star Conner Levin with Adele. - So I'm sure you saw what's the same Derek Huff, called him Dylan. - Yes. - Like Dylan Efron. - He's so fucking disrespectful. - Yeah, that's really awkward. - I also realized like a lot of the star power in this group is in the women. - Yeah, but I guess like Tyler and Dylan are very similar names. - Yeah, and they have similar vibes. They're like reality star. - But if you think about the names, like if you know like name Barry, like if you like Margot, - Yes. - Yes, you will like Dylan. - Yeah. - If you like Tyler, you will like Dylan. - Yes. - Yes, yes. - So I'm gonna give Grace to start coming. - Yeah, but do better. - Conner Levin and Adele Zaykman, they went home Adele. This was her first season. It's a pro. She won the next pro. Like I actually feel sick to my stomach. - I didn't know who to feel worse for, honestly. Like so exciting for this girl. Like and she gets out of the first night. The thing is that nobody else should have gone home. So like it had to be him. And I almost knew it. I wasn't sure if everybody felt the same way about Guillermo as I did. So it was obviously either Guillermo or Conner. He did it really poorly. And at the end of the day, it's like a dance competition. And if you can't dance the best, then you have to do like Guillermo, like provide other sort of entertainment. And I don't feel that Conner did that. I'm sad. I felt seriously. And I really, I'm saying this to Adam. Like it's so nice to see. Because I think a lot of people are like, I think people say, I support my husband and he supports me. But it's like, it's never really like. But it's like, I think that they all now move to LA. Ready to be there for months. And Whitney's gonna be the one doing the kids lunches. Everything Conner was doing for her. And I was like, it's actually so nice to see like a young couple really balancing it and supporting each other equally. And it's over. Like I'm so upset. - I think I'm most upset for Adele because to win the competition and then be the first one out, like that's so rough. - And you know she's being blamed. People are like, well, she had a bad choreography and she didn't move around the dance floor enough. - She didn't move from around the dance floor. - Yeah. - And I feel like all the other pros, like they know the set designers and they know what the show is capable of. And so they call in like, you know, what did they have Mr. Big Shot for Guillermo? - Yeah. - Literally looks like 42nd Street performance on Broadway. And she just had like a screen up because she doesn't know. So you are at a disadvantage. I felt that way about like yon last year with Jen Affleck. - Right. - But that's also part of being a rookie pro is learning these things and figuring out. - Because I don't feel that way about yon anymore. He was doing all the troop dances last night. Like he's very much in the mix. - Yeah, so I think there's a learning curve and that she's very much on it. We'll see how it goes for Hailey Bills and Sarah Jane but Hailey has been on the show for years as a true member. So she's seen in like live. She knows the people who are on the show. - Yeah, it's not that new. - It's not as new. I just felt really bad for her. I feel bad for Connor, of course, 'cause he was so excited. And I feel bad for Whitney because she literally made this like her whole personality for the last two weeks. - I feel so physically ill. - Hailey has so many more shirts that she ordered that she don't work into wear. - Or into wear. - And then I was like, you know what, we shouldn't have eliminated someone on the first night. Even though I feel like they never eliminated people, it's like, let's go. - No, but last season, they didn't eliminate someone on the first night. It was actually really nice. - Yeah, and it just like, makes you feel like less of a loser that if you go on the second week, like whatever, you know? - Yeah. - And they eliminated two people in the second week to make up for the first night. But it was everyone got to dance twice. - Someone's also going home tonight. - Yeah, oh my gosh, okay. - Okay. - Then we had Guillermo and Whitney Carson. My, I think my favorite couple, one of the two couples that I voted for. I'm not sure if I love Guillermo more. He's obviously so lovable, but like pregnant Whitney Carson like dancing is just too much for me unfortunately. - It's not surprising that Guillermo made it through. I think he really represents the people. Like this is so hard to do on your body. And him just talking about how he's here to lose weight. Like he's so funny. He's so real. His dance was pretty good. That's where like the expertise of being like an OG. She's one before. She really knows how to choreograph for her particular person. And he's obviously not an easy person to choreograph for. She's amazing. I know. - She's pregnant, like makes it so much better. 'Cause like they both need to move out to slower pace. - Yep. - I will be voting for them until the end of time. - They are my new Andy. I actually like them more. - Because she's pregnant. She's pregnant more than I like to Andy. Seriously to the, Guillermo to the finale one. Like seriously, I will, and I don't participate in their voting system the way they want me to. Like I'm not like giving out scores based out out of 10. Like I will send one text for the person I want. So I vote for Guillermo. And then I'm gonna tease you. Who do you, oh I guess the next person's the other person I voted for. Who do you think it is? Ezra. Ezra French. My new favorite person. - Oh my God. - And Dingella Caragaccio. Ezra is not just, I don't want to do it. - Oh my God, it's Julian okay. - That was actually, I love fucking disrespectful. And I respected that she like went back to like give him his proper, but she fucked it up again. - She kept fucking up. He's a Paralympian. - And like a decorated Paralympian. And I had no idea who he was before. I was so moved by his package. And I think that like when they showed this pictures of him as a baby, like I seriously, I really wasn't okay. And you know, you don't think about all the challenges outside of like obviously not having a leg. Like of the things slipping off or not being able to go diagonally, you have to go this way. I was so moved by the package, I really was. And she did an amazing job choreographing. Like you can't just choreograph. Like you have to work with people and around their challenges. I was so moved by it. Like unfortunately he's my winner. Like I thought I had all these plans, like me and Julia Siles, like no. Unfortunately as her is my winner. Like yeah. And that's what true inclusion looks like. Like he was operating at the same fucking level as everybody else. He danced better than the people with two legs. And honestly like it was too much. It was seriously too much for me. I was surprised. - It was like she was like, you know, in a typical Foxtrot, I don't know what they, Tango, like you walk a straight line, but like he can't walk in the straight line. So we're walking diagonal. And like they made it work. And like you never would have known. She's an expert choreographer that she's able to like, tinker to fit like his needs. But then all in all it was a great dance. Like if he was, if he was wearing like a long pant instead of, - You would never know. - You would never know. - And I'm glad that they got paired up together because I think that like someone knew like-- - She's an expert. - She's an expert. I remember her from last year. Like she really put Dylan Efron, like she made him. - She's an expert in movement. - I was deeply, deeply moved by the whole thing. - Same, those were my two votes. And those were contests. - And I didn't know that like your leg could fall off. - And then he's like, and when he was like, when I moved like this, well, like I might fall, he's like, but I'm not afraid to fall. Like I don't, I think he just, his personality and like his resolve was so inspiring. - It was a testament to the human spirit, honestly. Like it was so beautiful. - Yeah. - Next we have comedian and podcaster, Connor Wood Fibula and Riley Arnold. - Okay, so I had seen a TikTok that, they've been really good with their social. They're so Gen-Z, like, and like obviously, everyone's shipping them online. I thought a lot of like the judges and they're both single. I think so. Oh no, I think Riley is a boyfriend, but whatever, sort of like a minor detail. The judges were like, oh you guys have great chemistry. Like everyone's trying. - Oh really? I didn't see that. - I had seen this video of Connor posting like day one, verse day, whatever. And he improved so much when I saw the first video. I was like, oh girl, you're going home. Like, and then a few days later, I was like, oh shit. And you know what, he did a really good job. And she was like, she's well on her way to becoming like a expert pro. I think she dances, like she chooses good music, she chooses good vibes. Like I love the whole country theme. He's from Texas. It was great. - Yeah, she needs like a mirror ball trophy to really cement herself. - She's so new. And I think she, I forget that she was Harry Jousey's partner and he was like really mean to her. - What happened between them? Something happened. - There was like rumors that they were dating. I don't know if anybody ever confirmed that, but he just like went on after to like say really mean things about her. And she was like, I think it was her first season. She was like super young. - Yeah. Yeah, he's a kind of the worst. I know he's your favorite, but like. - No, it's obviously not like that anymore. - Oh, really, from Let's Marry Harry? - Like, I would just say not my favorite anymore. I've seen too much. - Do you think that if he knew that his like number one fan would sort of take a step back after Let's Marry Harry that he wouldn't have done the show? - No, he said it was the most money he ever made in the reunion was the most money he's ever made in a day. - Oh my, okay, I appreciate that sort of like transparency. - Yeah, and he met his now girlfriend who he seems to have come into when I don't think he gives a damn about me. And I don't think he's like, yeah, I don't think he's trying to. - He was doing it for you. - Or like older millennial moms. Like, I don't think he's worried about our thoughts on him. You know? - Well, that's disgusting. - Yeah. Next, musician Taylor Hanson of Hanson with Britz Stewart. - Cutie. - It was fine. Yeah, I liked it. I think that they won't go home as early as she did last year. But I think like a lot of the Britz fans feel that like, you know, she deserved more. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Am I his seven kids? - So cute. I don't think unless the package is really step it up, like I just don't think that he's gonna get a lot of votes. - Yeah, agreed. Yeah. - So, but you never know because I voted for two people. that were one person that I didn't know before this. - It's true. - I did expect that I would love Guillermo and pregnant with me. I did expect that. - Agreed. Agreed, especially like if last year's Andy Gate has any indication. - Yeah. - Especially. - We prefer an underdog. - Like, and not to be overlooked at she is pregnant. - Correct. - Like I am equally as obsessed with Guillermo as I am with like her dancing pregnant. - I know and I just know she like wanted to go home so that like she could lay and like rest her weary bones. - Sorry girl, you got a couple of more weeks. - But she's also probably so happy that she doesn't have to miss out or slow down her career. - Yeah, right. - You know, 'cause that's always, especially if you're an athlete and you get pregnant. Like of course you think you're taking some time off. - I do want to say the show does a really good job of letting the women, like Sharon Burgess, took off like many years to raise her son. Like I think that that's cool that like you're able to come back and they don't just write you off because she had a baby. - Yeah. Agreed. Then we have Harry Shum Jr. with Jenna Johnson. - Like obviously it was great. Like I was bored by how great it was, you know. - Yeah. - I think I wasn't really watching. I think I was on my phone. - Like it was just annoying. - Reading more stuff. - There was no, about 9/11. - I found it exciting that like when someone would start dancing, I'm like this is either gonna be amazing or terrible. Like there was this element of mystery. Like there was a mystery. I think this is gonna be good. That's great. - Yeah, I don't know her though because she was with Corey Feldman last year and got out on night too. And as this is my second season watching, I'm unfamiliar with her. She's Val's wife. - Yeah, she was in Eromie's world. - She was in Eromie's world. She sort of confirmed the Tom Brady rumor, so thank you for your service. So I'll be getting to know her. - Yeah. - And she really looks like Jenna DeWon. - I was at the last one. - That was the last one, yeah. - Oh, we also got like just a little glimpse into the women. To me, I think that's a more interesting bunch, just like celebs wise. - Yeah, but women are more interesting than men. - It's true. And especially in dance, it's so much easier for a man to excel at this show because your job is sort of like being visible. And just like lift the girl and let the girl be the star. So I think a lot of the dances look better when the girl is the pro. It's hard when the guy is the pro. - Disagree. - Oh, let's show you. - We've had this conversation before and you maintain that. I think it's really hard for the men. And I think it looks like a one girl's like, doing the add a heart and dread and the guys at 10%. - That's what looks like. - The difference becomes more obvious. - Yeah. - No, I think that like all the spotlight bone dance is like meant to like sort of highlight the woman, I think. So I wonder what it'll be with two females. - I'm so curious to see. And they're also like of the same size for the most part. - Yes. - It's like, who will he be? - Who? I don't think he's gonna do a lot of lifts. I don't think so. - Or if we're doing spinning circles around the day. Like who's doing the lifting? - I have no idea. - It was the strength. - The fun part of dancing with the stars, obviously watching the performances, but then also being an eagle eyed viewer, like seeing who's in the background. Because I don't know if they let normal people sit in anymore. Everyone in the audience, Michaela was there, Macy was there, Demi, May was there. - She went to dance, she wears a dress and goes on dance with the stars. - Nick Viles was there for Tyler as his like friends and family. - She seemed. - Yeah, it's just like fun to, and they always bring back, you know, like JoJo Siwa, like family. They say it's a dancing with the stars family. - He really, I mean, you can see that. Like Robert Rowan, which is like on stage at one point. - Yeah, the voting being down, like seriously, it's giving low budget. Like I don't think a lot of people vote online. I think the main thing is text. Message and data rates may apply. - I wonder what it is. - I think it's text because every time they promote, they're like text, like on TikTok and stuff, it's like text what needed to one, five, two, three. - Yeah, yeah. It's such a good show. Tonight's the night. I feel like there are also a lot of girls. - Who did you vote for? You didn't tell us. Oh, of course, I voted for Guillermo 10 times. - Let me see, two, one, five, two, three. - Guillermo, Guillermo, Guillermo. I only voted for Guillermo. - Wow. - 'Cause I feel like when you vote for everyone, like I wanted to vote for my friends, of course, I Tyler C and Connor, but like when you start voting for, and then I thought Ezra was great. So it's like, I would have actually just voted for everyone. And I wanted my vote to mean something. - You could have just voted for four people. - When the pack is so big right now. - Four is too many. - Like I have a champion each week, like for me this week. Guillermo was my winner. - Claudia, use your voice. Cast your votes. - Okay, I'll make a snack and bring an elderly friend. - And an umbrella. - It is raining today. - Oh, you just never know. - Oh my god, I meant to tell you. I just wanted to say, I know everyone's been saying this, but I finally tried Goop Kitchen yesterday. We ordered it for Ma Zhang, Jackie. People keep talking about them. I'm like, how good could it be? It's a restaurant. I don't like food. - Correct, and it's Goop. So it's like, okay, I'll have a kale salad. I'm good. No, she makes real food, by the way. I had a teriyaki bowl. We got a pizza for the group. Someone else got a teriyaki bowl. Someone else got like these tofu wraps. Jackie, it was so sick. And I think it's a Goose Kitchen. So I don't think you can go and sit and eat. I think it's like made for delivery. So it's like, it was packaged perfectly. They had these like cool little things to the salad dressing. It was so innovative. And the food, I can't even, I thought Joey could master making like a thousand videos about Goop Kitchen. I'm like, how can it be that good? - Yeah. - It's that good. Like, I'm having it again for lunch today. So good. - Well, I needed in my neighborhood. - Yeah, you do. I think there's only like one in L.A. and then one here. I need them to start franchising like nationwide because you guys need Goop Kitchen in your life. And it's crazy because like, I thought it would seriously be like Gwyneth. Like we're having air for lunch. No, we're having rice and it's like just rice. Like it's not, you know, made of mushrooms. Like it's rice. - It's a rose. - A rose. It's brown rice. - Yeah, I can't believe this. That was just an hour and a half. - I know. And like we've been doing that a lot recently. Sorry, our episodes have been coming out a little bit later. But there's so long it just, it takes a longer time to upload stuff. Let's wrap this up. Any more feelings you want to share? No, okay. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Chosen One. I'm going to show. We would love to have some stories in your mind. Just go, bye. - Love ya, bye.