Dakota Johnson on Her October Cover, Trolling Friends, and Navigating The Press

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Dakota, welcome to the show, we were just saying that you arrived a full week ago and you've been doing back-to-back press, which is really relaxing. I want to know how this cover shoot was, because I was really, I was trying to tawny about it, and it's fun that tawny did your first cover in 2015, right? What was different about the experience then and now? I felt very calm, and I think the set was very calm. The first time I was just so nervous, and it was so like, it was very, it was even doing it now is a huge deal for me, but it felt like tawny wanted to access my authenticity and wanted my input and wanted me to be a part of it, and I felt valued and recognized as an artist, rather than 11 years ago, I was like, I don't know what I'm doing or who I am. And Larissa was so calm, and Chloe. My good man was the stylist, the legendary, not only legendary vote editor, but as we recently calculated, has styled over 200 vote covers, which is remarkable. And Larissa Hoffman is a great young-ish photographer who I was really excited to work with on this. Yeah. She was so, her energy is so great, and she moves really fast, which I appreciate. It just felt nice that they wanted to, like I really didn't wear much makeup, I was like, in clothes that I felt really good in, I didn't feel like I was trying to be a model because I'm not a model, and that can often feel so awkward and an authentic for me, but it was just great. And it was also my makeup artist birthday that day, Georgie. And so we celebrated her all day long, and I had her kids come and surprise her two daughters and then I pushed them in the pool, and they had the time of their lives. What cake did you bring for Georgie? I got, what cake did I get for her? I got her champagne for sure, flowers. What a delightful celebration. I love celebrating people's birthdays. What's a recent birthday gift you've gotten someone that was unexpected? My best friend Blake turned 42 or something recently, and we had a party at my house. But I called it his 50th, so I had balloons saying Blake's 50th, and mostly my gifts for him are jokes, and I just try to ruin his life all the time. And sometimes I do get him good gifts, but this year I made him a bust of myself. Oh, wow. I mean, I had it made. I didn't like it. How did you have that made? Is that like an Etsy Google? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Got that Etsy seller must've been like, huh? Didn't see this one come either, but it's also like just not my name, but it's just a bust of me. It's really funny. And then I also made like pins of him making stupid face, like I just have horrible photos of him in my phone. So I made t-shirts. I made pins. There was good merch. Just trying to like humiliate him to high heaven. What's a recent gift you've gotten that you've loved or that knocked your socks off? I recently did a movie in Italy with Elice Roar Walker to direct it, and it was me and Jesse Buckley and Sarsha Ronan, and she gave us these like painted, these little paintings by this really special artist from an island that were like representative of our characters in the movie. And it's just my favorite thing. Oh, that's lovely. That was three incestuous sisters. Yeah. And it's in Rome, in Rome, and Stromboli. Oh, oh my God. Yeah. I remember interviewing Jesse Buckley after the lost daughter, and she told me how much fun you guys all had after hours. And now there's a lot of singing and rosé. Yes. Was that the case with this movie also? Yeah. There was not a lot of rosé. We were kind of on like a martini kick on this movie. Well, he's not really saying rosé in the same way. No, it's more like a, well, there is a lot of natural wine involved. And then there's like, we would, it would be like a martini night or a negroni night. Okay. So there would be cocktail directive. Yeah. Was there any singing? Jesse is always singing, and it's the best thing in the world. And it's like, no one else would dare sing around her because she's so brilliant, you know? So she was just singing sometimes, sometimes, we'd like bust out into, but it wasn't like after the lost daughter nights on set. It would, because that would be like someone had a guitar, and it'd be like a sing song. But this was more just sort of impromptu Broadway moments. When does that movie come out? Do we know yet? Yeah. Next year. Okay. For to dinner, that was under Macailee's house when you were filming in Rome, and you guys have been friends for a long time. What is your favorite thing he cooks for you? I don't eat fish. Okay. And fish is a thing everywhere. People love it, and I just don't. And so it's always like this really yummy kind of breaded chicken, and then like roast potatoes and green beans and, you know, just like simple, healthy homemade Italian. I remember when we published his house in Rome, and it was just the entire folk team, like gasped at the same time when they saw those pictures. Yeah. When, what did you guys first connect over? How did you first meet? We met. I think at the Gucci show, like during Fashion Week one year, I think I must have been 24, maybe. Okay. And he was still obviously designer at Gucci. He was just starting. Okay. So then we just like became friends, and started spending more time together, and then I had a contract with them for like 10 years, and then he went to Valentino, and I followed. I love to see when people thought, "I will be with him for the rest of my life." He's like truly one of the closest people in my life. That's so nice. Yeah. There's like, I think there's people that you meet, that you have a working relationship with in a collaborative relationship, but when you have the gift and the magic of really seeing each other, and it is a genuine safe space where you can have real conversations, you can talk about the worries and the pain and the magic and the secrets, you know, and you know that that person can keep them for you, and then you also know that you can like collaborate and work together. It's, it's so rare. It's so rare. What are you going to the Valentino show in Paris? I'm not. I can't go because I'm hosting SNL. Oh my God. Right. Which is right around your birthday. It is literally my birthday. It's actually on your birthday. It is my birthday. Well, I'm hosting on the third, and my birthday is the fourth. Okay. So in the middle of the show, it'll turn into my birthday. Oh my God. To turn your birthday on SNL is really the way to maximize. I'm so excited. It's, that's the best gift I've been given. Oh my God. I love SNL more than anything. Yes. I know. I remember when you hosted SNL, but then I was reading how much you love SNL. What did you grow up watching SNL? Yeah. Is there like a beloved era that you think back to or skits in particular? I mean, I've watched, since I was allowed to, while I was, I was allowed to, I watched when my brothers were watching, which was like, you know, Chris Farley and Adam Sandler. And I, there's, but there's eras, because I fell in love with it, so I'd go back and I've watched everything. So this will be your second time hosting or third? Third. So you're, I'm on my way. Oh, what's it called? Five timer clubs. I'm on my way. That's very exciting. Fingers crossed. There's like one of the only five timers who is always available. And so, you're always bringing her in, but they're very protective of those jackets. Yes. They cannot leave the studio. I know. It's really sad. Yeah. Wait, who is your mom? Candice Bergen. What the fuck? We talked about this because I have spent a funeral with your mother recently. Yeah. And you guys had like the best time. Yeah. We had a really good time together. I was wearing like great black gloves. And yes. Wait. We did talk about this. Yeah. Okay. That all makes sense. Yeah. But she is the mom. She is the most available five time. Yeah. I mean, I would be too if I were her. Yeah. She's like, I don't know. I never have anything happening. Maybe she'll come out of my show. Oh my God. Oh my God. How cool. Yeah. And actually, my mother was reminding me that when I was little, because you're a bit younger than me, your dad lived on our street on Hazen off cold water. Oh, on like Heather Road. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that house. Yeah. Wow. But you didn't really grow up going to school in LA. You were sort of a parapetetic use. Not until I was like 11. I went to school in LA when I was 11 for the first time. Would you, if you had kids and you were moving around, would you move them in that way? Or did you enjoy that experience? Or do you feel like that's an argument for sticking post in the ground? I think it depends on the family, depends on who your parents are and how they raise you. Because I am so grateful for everywhere I lived and I'm so grateful for all the different kinds of people I met and like, I made friends all over the world and yeah, we traveled with a tutor and then we'd go to museums. It was kind of a very immersive way of learning, but then when I went to a real school, my first real year of school was 10 years old, fourth grade in San Francisco because my dad lived there. Interesting. And then I did really well because I had like structure for the first time. And then I moved back to LA to live with my mom and I, everything, just I like couldn't take tests. I didn't understand standardized testing and I'm like testing it out of schools. Like I never learned the, I didn't have the foundational skills of time management and testing and like ABC or whatever and I just, do you have other skills? I had other skills and I value them so much more. Yeah. So I think if for me, like, yeah, I'd bring my kids around if I knew they were getting a well-rounded education and also like felt extremely loved and supportive and also respectful of all of humankind and curious and. I actually, I find now because I used to go to the set of Murphy Brown all the time and I loved it. And now when my kids come to work with me, it's so exciting for them. And also it's very helpful because then when I'm always leaving to go to work, they have a reference for what it is. But I wonder was there ever outings on set that were more exciting than others? Like where there are sets you went to when you were a kid that stand out in your memory? I think we visited the spy kids set. Oh, that's fun. When my sister was really little and she was obsessed with spy kids and I was a little bit like too cool at that time, but I actually watched by kids for the first time in the summer. It's a classic. Yeah. It's a great movie. It's so fun. I was shaken though because I watched it with our babysitter who's in her early 20s and she was like, "Yeah, this is what Antonio Banderas is famous for." I was like, "Oh, wow." Hello? For 25 girls. This may be the case. Excuse me. I mean, if you grew up watching spy kids, she was like, "This is how I first learned who he was. This is what makes him important to me." I mean, I do hear people all the time who are like, "Oh, your mom's kids were not." It's not like. Miss Congeniality. I'm like, "Oh. Dagger to her heart." It's not. Oh my God. It's not like. It's not Zorro. It's not Desperado, obviously. No. Or Avita. Or Avita. Or Shrek. Oh, that's so true. Forgot about Shrek. Yeah. Shrek was a fun one. Also, my sister was obsessed with Shrek. I was really into the set of Desperado. Your sister is your half sister that. When my mom and Antonio. Yes. Yeah. But I was really into the Desperado set because then we were living in Mexico City at the time or like just outside of Mexico City and I would like die my hair in the makeup trailer. Oh, wow. I would die at pink. It was like temporary. But that. I loved it. I think I was 12. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'm very interested in the fact that you are a natural blonde who tends to go brunette, which is typically not the direction people take. Do people treat you differently if you're blonde or brunette? I treat myself differently. Interesting. It's so weird. I don't identify as a blonde. Okay. And I was like a toehead. I was like blonde, blonde, blonde as a kid, white blonde hair. And then it kind of got like dirty blonde. And I feel like you come from a line of two of the most famous blondes we know. Yeah. So. I don't know if they're my real parents. Well, I met Tippy Hadron. Right. Oh, right. Yeah. She's definitely my grandma. Yeah. She is. But, yeah. I don't. I. I just don't. I can do it. Like, I could pull it off, but I don't feel like that's me. Do you. What's the bang management situation? Well, I don't know if you can tell right now, but I recently cut them myself. Much to Mark's chagrin. Wow. Yeah. That's impressive. Did I do a good job? You did do a good job. They're a little laugh-sided. One side's a bit longer. But we'll fix it later. That's true. How often does that happen? Sometimes, if I've had a cocktail, I'm like, "This is a good idea." And then other times, it's telling of having some sort of existential crisis. Like, I have to do something tactile to myself that's like cutting my bangs normally. But it was before I was going on this press tour, and I was kind of like, "I haven't been very public, and I'm a little like, it's hard to be under a microscope and screwed now." Yes. And like, everything is watched, and now everyone is a spy, and everyone is the press. Oh, my God. And it just was like, shh. I mean, I was. It was fashion week this week, was also the beginning of school. I was. I was frenetic this week. Yeah. I was racing around. Usually, fashion shows start 20 to 30 minutes late, as you know. The Carolina Herrera show, they said in small letters on the bottom, "We'll start promptly at six." I got there at 607. They were texting me. We're starting the show. The security guard wouldn't let me cut through into Lincoln Center, so I climbed underneath a barricade. Yeah. And of course, someone filmed that, and it got served to a lot of people's algorithms. And it was a reminder that. I think that's rad. People are always looking around, and I wonder, does that affect your calculus when you like go out to dinner with someone? Can you ever go out to dinner with any gentleman and people not write about it? No. But do you still do it? Do you not care? Or you're like, why don't we have dinner somewhere there? I don't know. I'll go out a lot. I mean, if I go to dinner with my manager or my lawyer, it's like I'm seen with mystery man. It's just like, I don't. Yeah. I also don't care. Well, sure. Yeah. Do you ever feel the desire to want to correct something that people are saying? Well, I think it's just kind of futile. People are going to believe what they want to believe. And I don't have the energy to fight for that. Like would much rather focus on other things in my life. And I don't. I don't. I just kind of. Every day there's something on the internet that's ridiculous and true or not true and I don't care. Yeah. Like, get a life. People are very online and very don't have a life. I wonder our other cover star, one of our other cover stars, Mikey Madison, who's in the social reckoning. Have you seen it yet? I haven't. One of your first adult role was very memorable, Justin Timberlake's girlfriend and social network. How has your relationship to social media changed since that movie, or since. I feel like that was the beginning of people using. That was. Was the beginning of people using. People using drugs? Are you using. Be on it? Maybe when I was in my younger 20s had a moment of being on social media just for fun and laughs, because I love a clever thing, anything clever. I'm like, "Yeah, cool." But I don't. I just don't fuck with it. I don't. I'll sometimes look at like because what our book club is on Instagram right now, we might have a new update with that recently. I mean, coming up, but I, so there's some things that I have to do and for work where I like have to do whatever, but I don't really, I feel really uncomfortable with the like constant documenting of people's lives. - Yeah. Well, so you can't comment, it's not a safe space, anything you comment. - People are taking. - I did comment on Jen Lawrence's post recently. Did you see that? - I saw that you called her a slut, which I love for both of you. (laughing) But also did you see the same thing happened to her that she made a joke about someone said about Emma Stone or about Jen, who was this person, and you said someone with one less Oscar than Emma Stone. - Yeah. - People were said about that. - I think Jen and I could be the ultimate internet trolls if like we, A, had the time and be the interest. But I was, it was only because she was, her video was so earnest about like people being nice to her. - Oh, right, it was her return to Instagram. - Yeah. - Yeah. Well, I guess we're gonna have a, I have a really amazing video of her walking on the street and she was like, oh, I'm walking by her house and it was, I was living in New York filming a movie and so I like opened the top floor window and just was like, slut! (laughing) - And I filmed it and it was so funny. She was just like, (laughing) - Hopefully that'll end up on the internet one day. - How else have you trolled someone recently? - My little brother, trolled him. - What does that look like? - I told him to stop wearing flip flops. - That's a public service. It really is. - Gentlemen shouldn't be wearing flip flops. - Ever, especially these like, I'm sorry, but like, Gen Z, college dudes, your feet are gross, your toes are gross, your smelly, you're like always clammy, put your feet away. - Yeah. - Wear some shoes, be a man. - There you go. - Come on, I don't wanna see rainbow flip flops. - I know. (laughing) - Did he take your advice? - No. - Well he might now. - No, and then I saw him and like a bunch of his friends I was visiting my dad and a bunch of them walked in. They're all wearing rainbow flip flops. - Oh wow. - And I was just like, get out. Get right on out of here, out of the house. - Wow. - Yeah. - What's your stance on flip flops in New York City? - I don't know, for some reason it's chic on women. - Yeah. - The row helps that. - Because I think also you know that all of those women are walking right into their house and taking them off and washing their feet. - It's so true. - Do you think I'm not doing that? - Antibacterial soap. - It's true. I do in the summer if I'm wearing flip flops, put my feet right in the bath. - Yeah. - You must. - Yeah. - Although, I mean, Lloyd is coming in after doing God knows what in the park. - Yeah, what do you do about that? - Nothing and it's gross. He's like on my pillow, it's disgusting. - That would freak me out. - I know, but what? I mean, I wash his feet when it's muddy or snowy, but. - But what about all the urine? - Oh no, it's gross. - Also, he's like peeing on him in self and then he's just like. - Oh, wait, this is not good. - This is not good. (laughing) - You gotta get those. When I lived here and I had my dog Zeppelin, I would have those like disinfecting paw wipes. - So I know, I know, we should do that more. - 'Cause I was so freaked out about it. - We have this little contraption that my mother-in-law sent me from Shark Tank. Which looks like a little mini blender, but you put their foot in and like shake it around and it cleans off. 'Cause the salt really hurts their paws, but Lloyd won't wear the booties. - Right. - And so I was feel bad when he sort of limping after the snow. - Yeah. - What's Tokio up to? - Tokio, she, well, I actually also, I adopted another dog, and now his name's Bruce. - Oh, my mother's dog's name is Bruce. - Really? - Yes. - Yes, he's like brother. - He's like this. - Yeah, Bruce is a nightmare. - My Bruce is a sweet angel. - Wow. - He was tied up in a trailer park. I don't really know what breed he is. He looks kind of like a bear and a terrier. - How big is he? - He's medium sized. - Oh, 'cause a big head. - Wow, how do him and Tokio get along? - They are obsessed with each other. - Wow, who's the boss? - Tokio. - Okay. - Yeah. She's so chic and she's so like, she'll just like, swap him in the face. - She's real flair. - Yeah. She's a supermodel. - Yeah. - She's really special. - I know, I would love her to mend Oak. - Oh yeah. - Her and Bruce. - Okay. (upbeat music) - I wanna hear if you have any clothes from your mom that or your grandmother that you wear. - I have clothes from my mom. I have a pair of Chanel pants that she, they're probably from the '90s that she cut the bottoms off. - Oh, wow. - And so they're like a little bit afraid on the bottoms. And my sister and I just like, try to get them from each other all the time. My sister still-- - Wow, that's a very chic sisterhood of the traveling Chanel pants. - Yeah, they're so great. They're black. They're like, have these frayed sort of seams at the top. - Wow. - And then the bottoms she cut. And they're so good. They're just like the perfect, weird black trouser. Is there any like Hitchcock era? - I wish my grandma's body is like unbelievably tiny. - Interesting. - And she's extremely tiny. So I just-- - Interesting. - We have the like Hitchcock green suit, but it's kind of on display in her like little, this, there's this funny museum area of her preserve where it's like the bird's memorabilia and marny memorabilia. - Wow. - Interesting. Did he even had to, both of those? - Okay, wow, that's fun. - Yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. I mean, she has, there's like a cedar trailer of loads of her stuff and she still, like she wears the most wild outfits right now. I dress as she loves to get dressed and get ready every day. - I think that's very important. - And it takes like four and a half hours. - Oh wow. - And then she just hangs out at home. - I respect that. I liked when people really would dress up during COVID lockdown and just like committed to it. - That was not me. - No, nor I, but I'm respectful to others who respect, who respect. - Yeah. I wanna know about how when your mom found you smoking cigarettes, she gave you an astray. Because actually my mom and I were talking about this recently because my son is just a sort of creepo, provocateur and just wants to mess with me. And so anything. - How old is he? - He's six. (laughing) - I was like, surely he's 17. (laughing) - I mean, I'm waiting for that period. But anything I tell him not to do, it's a green light. And my mom was reminding me that when I was in high school, I would invite people over. And she sort of knew we were drinking, but she was happier we were in her apartment than you know, at some creepy bar on second avenue where we also were. - What was the, what was the parental approach to that? - It was that. It was like better that you're at the house. I would have people over a lot as a team, but she smokes. She still smokes. - Oh, interesting. - So I think she was just like, it's a harder like critical. - Yeah, if I'm like, you can't smoke. We would like smoke cigarettes together. - Oh, that's nice. (laughing) - Yeah, it was a different time. - Did you still do that together? - I don't smoke cigarettes. - Oh, okay. - Yeah. - Was it hard to quit cigarettes? - I quit when I was 26. - So I realized quit cigarettes makes me sound very old. - Quit smoking. - Did I say quit cigarettes as well? - I did. - And then did I repeat that? (laughing) - Yeah, I quit cigarettes when I was 26. (laughing) - Were you hypnotized? - No, I just kind of like went off it. I really don't like smelling like cigarettes. - This is my problem. - I'm a very scent oriented person. And I like to be clean and feel clean. And it gets stuck in my hair and I hate it. - I am not a very clean oriented person. I like to wash my hair as little as possible. And so if I'm somewhere where people are smoking, I cannot get it out of my hair. On Saturday night I was at a party and I would have loved to stay, but everyone was smoking. I was like, this is done for me. - Yeah, it's tough. And then like in the morning, you smell that. - Yeah, it's like your whole bed smells, forget the void. That's the real problem of bed contamination. - Yeah, every once in a while I would have like, recently, it's so funny. Recently, I, in Italy, everyone would like have a cigarette on Fridays and RDP, Ellen Luvart would smoke vogue's and it was like the sheikest thing in the world. - Well, that is. I mean, European women somehow do it differently. So now we have my friends and I have this thing called Vogue Fridays and everyone smokes one vogue cigarette and has a cocktail. - Wow. - So maybe we should like, collab in some way. - I feel like. (laughing) - A licensing meeting. - Yeah. I feel like everyone is very excited about your interior design and your architectural digest videos. - Thank you. - And I love the video we did. That you got into the writing of. - I did. I was very -- I did. I was like -- Even our most medical colleague was like, this is very funny. Oh, really? Yeah. That's fabulous. I was like, can I just do a quick pass? Mm-hmm. I had so much fun with that. It was delightful. So much fun. What are you -- you're in a new house now. What was the most fun part of your designing of that? It was kind of pairing because the house is sort of a Mediterranean-style house, but then there's modern aspects of it. Like, my kitchen counter is stainless steel, and so there's a lot of -- it's like a lot of silver. Mm-hmm. And so I was going with -- I have these like, like, a row of silver goblets. And like -- Oh. I love a stainless steel tray. Yeah. And so these like, pops of kind of silver in this -- in this Mediterranean-style home. And then I recently redid the ADU to be a screening round. Oh. I know. It was a term that everyone in LA uses, but no one else really knows what it means. It's an additional domicile unit. Yeah. So it's like a guest house, a garage, it's just an additional structure. Yeah. Yeah. Is your kitchen in this house screen, also? Because I feel like there was -- It's not -- And you birthed many a green kitchen from that last house. I know. I know. I have a liking colored kitchen. And you know -- oh, okay. And you know that when I -- before I sold my last house, I repainted the kitchen before I sold it. Oh. Oh, wow. I know. Just so you will not have this green kitchen ever have it. Wow. Okay. But I would happily tell anybody what the paint color was. We just interviewed Julie. We drive this. And I was like, I wonder if Dakota wants to go on Broadway. It's Julie's Broadway debut. Is that -- is that a dream? That is a dream. I would like to do a play, I think I might do one not next year the year after talking about it. That's exciting. But planning things that far in advance is so -- I just thought in my head, wow, 2028. Yeah. That's really perplexing to me. And I just can't. I can't even wrap my head around like my mom asked me what I wanted to do for Christmas this year. And I was like, oh, yeah, I need to figure that out. It's September. It's later. It's time. I don't want to plan Christmas. Okay, mom, you must. Why don't our moms plan Christmas together? Yeah. And then we can not show up. They have lunch recently at salad place. The Scala? Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. And actually, my mom doesn't know to work her phone. And so I got an Apple emergency help call and it was like, you were the emergency contact and the person is in an emergency at Las Gal. [laughter] And I was like, really? They're fine. They're fine. Yeah, they're fine. They're salami. They're what? They look like we chicken. A emergency. [laughter] That's really funny. That's really funny. My favorite movie you've done recently was The Materialists. I love this movie. I recently saw Celine Song Front Row at The Calmyer Fashion Show and it was like the most exciting front row. I love Calmyer. If it's so well. Love so much. Yeah. Love so much. [laughter] Danielle, are you listening? [laughter] One thing I think about often from The Materialists because I swooned for Pedro Basquale mostly because he does the voiceover of the Planetarium show at the Natural History Museum. That's amazing. There you go. It's like you're lulled by his dulcet tones. But I've never heard of height surgery of like leg breaking, height surgery, until then do you know people have done that? I feel like I do and now I don't remember but I feel like at the time I did. It rocked me. Do you know anybody? No, I've never heard of it before but now I'm like thinking about people. I know. I might never know. What's the craziest cosmetic surgery you've heard about recently? In LA. I don't know that I know much about that stuff. Our beauty editor is we're investigating there's a new trend that's about to be FDA approved of using cadaver fat for implants because it's more organic, shut up and I'm really excited. I want a deep dive. Are you going to do it? I'm not but I'm really eager for a reporter to do it. To do it. Where do you put the fat? She might do it in her forehead or under her eyes but you can also do it for breast implants. It's much more natural. They put it in a centrifuge. Like somebody's dead body thigh is going in your face. It's sort of like a Celine song movie. It's just creepy enough. It makes me feel really bad about humanity. I think it's like for cycling. I'm sort of into it. I imagine there's two gurneys, right? There's the dead body gurney and then they're just syringing out and then syringing into your body. Surely there's a cleaning process. Yes. Things are spun. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh. Like stem cells. Yes. Stem cell donors are alive and they have to go through a testing process that's years. Yes. I don't think you have to test it all. I'm going to find out. Oh my God. Oh my God. What are you watching and I guess to talk about what you're reading. But when you're on a press tour like this, do you go home at night and you like unwind watching something on your laptop or no, you're just going to sleep because you're a master sleeper. I am a master sleeper. I was, I just finished the beast in me. I loved that. Yeah. People love that. I've been watching. I have been watching Widows Bay. But I get so spooky that I like, I can't really watch that at night time. That's what I'm saying. I am really into true crime documentaries, especially ones about cults. Oh, interesting. Okay. So that's the kind of thing that I'm, that I watch because when I watch shows or movies, I am working. Okay. I'm constantly trying to figure out what was the budget, where did they shoot? How did they do this? What camera did they use? Is it on film? Is it digital? Who's the editor? Who's the composer? I'm, it's funny, that's how I feel when I look at a magazine. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was talking to a friend who's a musician and it's the same thing. If you watch a concert, it's like, you know, she's constantly like, what are they doing? What's the production here? Yeah. And so watching true crime documentaries, I'm just like, whoa, it's spooky, crazy. Yeah. Crazy people. Can't relate. Can't relate. Or can I? I don't know. To go to, thank you very much for coming. I think very touched to be a rare podcast. I'm in your own. This is great. I could do this all day. Great. Well, we're here. I could talk to you all day long. Braytopia, next year. I was so jealous that Tokyo was licking the microphone. I know. But she was a sweet baby then and now she's an asshole. She hates men. 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