Daddy Is There to Keep You Safe with Dahi

(upbeat music) - Y'all, what the fuck is up? Welcome to my favorite lyrics, the podcast where we talk about music lyrics, except when we talk about other stuff. And today, we got a very, very, very special guest. I mean, this guy is like, you're kind of the one. You're kind of, and you know what? I've been familiar with your work for a while, but it wasn't until we were about to do this, and I started really doing my research, where I was like, oh my God. This man's, he's everywhere. Y'all welcome to the show, Dahi. You know, pleasure being here, thank you, thank you. - It's really, I was really looking through it and being like, even songs that I didn't know that you had anything to do with that I just was like a big fan of. I was like, you've actually been behind like some of like on several different projects. I was like, oh yeah, these are my favorite songs on this joint. - Yeah, yeah. - You did 16 on Baby Keams album, which I really have really, like if y'all haven't listened to that song, one, listen to it, two, if you haven't heard it, go ahead and put it on and roll down the windows. Roll down the windows, especially if you're in love and just sing, won't you think about you and I just grab my hand and look. - Come on, I mean, this ain't something that you should, come on. - He really loves that song. (laughing) - He really loves that song. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's incredible. Kinda look 90210, maybe my favorite Travis Scott song, period. - Wow, wow, wow, wow. - Come on, right in front of me. Worst behavior in my favorite, my homie's favorite drinks song. - That's dope. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - See, we love Drake out here. (laughing) - We love Drake, we love Drake. (laughing) - You know, as a fellow Drake lover, I feel like I'm excited to hear people say that. I feel like he, you know, we went in on him a little too hard for too long. - We, yeah, man. (laughing) - You're a little closer to the situation than I am. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Slalom, I don't know which, how much you wanna talk about it, but yeah. - No, I'm just a fan of music, man. I always say Drake has definitely been the soundtrack to so many of our experiences in life. So, this is what I'm always saying. - Don't deny that, bro. Don't deny that, you know what I'm saying? Regardless of music. And I think in the days, like music is supposed to be fun, you know what I'm saying? So, take the fun side of everything, bro, and just live your life, you know what I'm saying? - Sure, sure, sure, sure. - Well, that's funny. (laughing) - That's it. (laughing) - That he's James looking over there and like, that's how you answer a question. That's how you answer. That's exactly how you answer that question. No more, that's the same. You have to say exactly that. (laughing) Oh, I do feel that way. Any time I've ever come across anybody, it's like, man, I don't like Drake. I'm like, you're fine, you're lying. You're lying, you don't like Drake. - No, bro, it's just like, you're not being honest, bro. He didn't make too many joints. I can understand if you don't like all of them, but like. - I would say Drake just has eras. - Yeah, of course. - And I think that's the main thing you have to realize, because his music over, you know, what do you think? He's Drake's came in with 2009. - Nice, oh yeah, yeah. - It's crazy. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta think, it's literally like. To me, artists is like, have like a five year generational kind of touch. Every five years, a new gap of kids, almost high school. Like, the first, these four or five years, from high school to when you go into college or whatever, that's an era, the next era. So Drake's been a part of, at least one now, three to four or five eras and one now. So to me, yeah, you might not like what he did in recent work, but you've got like an era where you just love Drake songs, you know what I'm saying? - You gotta respect the longevity. So regardless of whatever, West Coast, East Coast, North, South, whatever. - Yeah, just respect him, and he's done some great shit. - Come on, come on, you can't, you can't. Have a couple margaritas and listen to passion fruit and tell me you don't like that. You're not being honest. You're three margaritas deep and passion fruit. Come on, tell me you're not gonna move your shoulders around. You can tell me that, but I won't believe you. I'll say that. I don't know, hey bro. Shout out to Drake, man. - Shout out to Drake. - Shout out to Drake, man. Also, you did my type of party, dark Kennedy. - Okay, you know about that. - Brother. I've been looking, like I said, I've been looking. I've been looking, the catalog's long. - Yes, the catalog's long, you know, been in the game. - No, it's funny, that was my first record that I feel like kind of took things off in my career. - Yeah. - That was the first record I heard on the radio that I made. - Yeah. - In the West Coast, I was like a, like a, like, oh shit, like I've done something that kids know, you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's something that resonates, you know what I'm saying? And at the time, I was working as a dorm manager. So I mean, I remember we took a bus field trip to like, I don't know, the, I think we were doing like the marina. Like the oceanography, marina, science, you know, we're gonna go check out some, some animals in the, in San Pedro, that's where I was working in San Pedro. And it's a, I'm literally having a brain far right now, remember. But we went there on the field trip and we were driving the bus and my type party came on. And the cool thing is students knew I was making music on the side. - Whoa, did they know that was you? - Yeah, they knew it was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. So that was just like a, like, yeah, I'm about to quit this job. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah. - Did you know it was about to be on the radio when it happened or did it catch you by surprise? - Not me, at the time, it definitely had a buzz in LA. 'Cause I think when I remember when it came out, it definitely, people were just talking. And it was like a thing where, luckily it had the right connections to a lot of different people who were running radio, to fashion, to, just LA and vibe. 'Cause LA at the time, I feel like the biggest artists were, I don't think who's that, that was like 2012 or so, 11? - 2011, 2010, I think I think that's the era. So this is like blog era time of like a rap. So you had, I think YG was, was, - Tudor and Buddha. - Tudor and Buddha was an era. Muster was getting poppin', Tidala Sam was getting cracking. TDE was obviously like making noise. And then Dom kind of came. Dom to me was like, like, how do I just get? Dom was like the West Coast. How many of you try, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't call him like that, our Nate Dog. 'Cause I feel like every artist, every, to me every era had like a signature artist who kind of represented what that city was from. And I think Dom was definitely like the most LA artists I can think of. I can't think of an artist from New York that does the same thing. But for me, Dom was like, from the lingo to the slang. He was kind of like our, damn, I'm trying to think of what I can compare him to. He just, to me, he was just like the most LA artist you could think of. He's always wearing a LA fitted. - Come on. - Love the Dodgers. Love the, his, I think he loved the Impala. That's what, that's what the 5-0, was it 2.0 Impala or something like that? - Yeah, I think that's the kind of thing. - I'm just, I feel like I'm just throwing out LA shit just a minute. - No, no, no, no. - But I think that's what he was on. And yeah, but I was, that was that record locally just felt big. I don't, like, you could, you could hear it on the radio. On YouTube, people were sharing links of like the song. It was a lot on, it was super visible on all the blocks at the time, like you, any like not right. - Yeah. - Two dope boys. - I remember it well. - Yeah, it was, where were you from? - I'm from Texas. - Oh, crazy, okay, okay. - I'm from Texas. So it's a different, different type of swag from LA, but like I personally, like me and all my homies, I was in college when like, Don was starting to pop off. - Crazy, okay. - And I, I was a really, I was an early investor. - That's right. - From Jump, I was really kind of on Dom, and I really was like, yeah, I just thought, I also think, if y'all haven't heard it, I've been talked about Don that much on the show, but like, if y'all haven't heard from the West, I would love to by Dom Kennedy. - Classic. - I do think it is like, I think it's like a perfect summer rap album. - Yep, yep. - Like, if you put that on in the summer sounds on the show, there's a song called Ice Cream Truck. - I love that song. - Which is like, just incredible. Like, it's hot outside and you cruising in your car, and you're just like having like a fun ass day. I also really like Don because it's like, I was, we were talking about this off-mic, I went to the Jay-Z show, and I was talking to my homie about Jay-Z who's like from New York, and I was like Jay-Z a lot. - Yeah. - Obviously like a legend. But Jay-Z to me was like, I think he was, he was cool in a way that was so unattainable to me. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? I've never heard a story about Jay-Z doing anything normal. - Everything you ever hear about him, he's doing the most impossible, incredible shit, and he's not breaking a sweat doing it. When I listen to Dom Kennedy, he's just like, yeah, I like, I like drank some beers and ate some tacos and talked to some girls. I was like, oh no, I do that shit. I do that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's, I could like see it. He was talking about stuff that like felt, it's very much just like, oh, you're just like living a day in a life with this dude. - Related ability is like super important. - Yeah. - To what he's, what he's, what he's did and what, how we connected with people. 'Cause if you go to, even if you go to a show, it's like the diversity in the fans is like, he's got heavy Latinos. - Yeah, of course. - Asians be popping up. - Him and YG. - YG. - I saw somebody post that YG's like, "Nost to the Mexicans." (laughing) - No, I totally see that, bro. It's like you, L.A., in L.A., specifically, is interesting 'cause it's definitely one of those places that is very segregated. Like you wouldn't even, there's parts of L.A. that you don't have to interact with because you just get on the freeway and go to wherever you're going. So to fact that like an artist really can bring together like all parts of L.A. as a community and like really wrap what he's saying and really just at the end of the day have the related ability of just driving in late, eating tacos, going to the game, you know, just fly pimp shit, you know what I'm saying? But it's still, it's still. - You can like wrap your mind around it. - Exactly. - Is that what I'm saying? - There's a boy. - Exactly, I got a hat, exactly. - No, and it's true, 'cause even see a black man be a part of baseball, I feel like we don't have a lot of, if you really think about it like baseball, it's not really like a black sport, like it used to be, as like somebody representing I love, and I love baseball. - It's a lot of, it's a lot of, I bought like Steph Curry, I bought like LeBron, it's not a lot of, I bought like no mark I see a part of. - Nope, it don't really, that don't even hit the same one. - Don't even hit the same one. - I bought like Derek Jeter, that got something to it, but like, it ain't gonna hit me. - I bought like Aaron Judge, I bought like a oldest Chapman, I could do this for a while. - Dang, what about Mookie Betts? - I bought like Mookie Betts, that's got something to it. - It got something, I bought like Shohei O'Tani. - Shohei, you don't need Asian player on some black shit. - Yeah, it kinda sound good. - There's a beautiful, there's a beautiful connection between black Americans and Japanese people that I think are nice. - I agree, I agree. It's you really, you see it. - No, when is it? - You ever go to Japan and see the black Japanese? - Oh, no, no, I haven't actually seen any black, you don't wanna like mix black, just black, like, I'm talking black and I live in Japan. Neither, neither. - I'm talking about Japanese people that just love black shit, really bad. I've talked about this on the podcast. I like Winston, I went to Japan in the fall and I like went to this like clothing, like this like thrift store. And it was like all these just like straight up Japanese people all had like afros and like forros. - I've seen pictures of that, yeah. - And they wanted me to come in the store so bad. And they was playing Mr. Moral from top to bottom. - Crazy. - And I could tell they wanted me to buy something so bad. And I did. And I bought something that I could've bought in America. It wasn't like a special Japanese thing. I bought something there. I could've bought it at many stores in New York, but I was like, this is gonna mean something to you. - That's all right. - This is gonna mean something to you. So I'm gonna go ahead and make a purchase because I could see we try, you try to connect with me. - Did he want a picture too? - No, I don't think they thought I was, they weren't impressed. - Okay. They was like, but they dapped me up hard. - No, it's crazy. They have a crazy low rider community thing. - Yes, they got that as well. - They got that as well. - They be cripp walking out there? - Yep, yep, yep, yep. - No, I appreciate, again, just what black culture does around the world is pretty powerful in a sense of just like, you know, we kind of tell the world what's cool. And like, what and how you should be in the fit. And just overall just the subculture of like, what people used to think was dirty or trash. Like we making it like useful and cool and make it fly. So. - And then they take it? - And then they take it and they make money off it. - Yep. - And they say, get out of this club. - Yeah. - And they say, don't, don't wear this. And no sneakers in here, hard bottom shoes only. Yeah, it's a, it's a vicious cycle. It's nasty. - I was thinking about the era of like when we used to wear button ups business casual in the club. - In the club? - I think about it all the time. - Crazy. This is, I was wearing a, I was wearing like a, like a Ralph Lauren like V-neck sweater with like the button down buttoned up all the way to the top. And if I felt it like I was really swagging. - Yep. - I put the bow tie on. - Wow. - I thought I was really doing something. - Wow. - But mind you, I'm, I'm 17. - Yeah. - I'm 17, I'm dressed like this. I got bow shoes and fucking and a Ralph Lauren shit on. Like, yeah, it was, it was a nasty time. It was a nasty time. A lot of sweater vests. It was, did you get some, did you get some girls though? Did it work? - Not as much as I would have wanted. - Occasionally sure, but it's like, I wasn't batting a thousand, I'll say that. - Nobody, nobody bats a thousand at the club. - Jay-Z does. - At least if you let him tell it. - You think so? - That's the way he, that's, it sounds like it. - Interesting. (laughing) Were you ever, were you doing business casual at the club? - No, I mean, yeah, that was the era 'cause if I'm thinking Chains Clothes, that was 2004? - Something like that. - I also really love, I love that song. I was hoping they would, him and Faroe would do that, but they didn't bust that one out. - I love that song, bro. So I remember, yeah, so I remember that video of Chains Clothes and then he did the public service announcement and one. And I remember, that was the fit. Like Jay-Z had the button up. - Yes, yes. - So I literally remember us going, 'cause I went to school in Santa Cruz, and I remember us going to Ross getting, you know, was it a Chapman? Is that the Chaps? - Chap, sorry, yeah, yeah. - And then getting like a cheap time heel figure, like button up shirt and literally, you can go and say the club and just feeling like, you know, like, we doing something. - We doing something, you know what I'm saying? - We all, we all some different shit. - Yeah. Y'all on the tall tees, we got, we're still wearing a big ass shirt, ultimately. It is, we're still got actually a huge shirt on, but it's a button, it got more buttons in y'all's shirt. - With the fit it, too. - Yeah, come on now, it's crazy. - We was doing something. - It's crazy. - We was doing some, was tall tees going crazy in L.A., where y'all doing that out there? Was that more of a Southern thing? - I feel like that's Mike Jones there, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, we definitely weren't doing the big tees. - Okay. - We would wear, now we, we would do the wife beaters, or I can like, can we say that now? Is that okay? - I still say it. - I know, I don't, I don't, I don't condone none of that, but the shirt, so we wear the shirt. - We wear the shirt, I bought some of the day. - Whatever you call the shirt, I bought some today. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we would wear those, but we would wear that with, we could wear like the flannel shirt button up. I'll call over it, you understand? So that's probably like a fit that we would maybe go out to and do, but the big tees was like, I'm thinking of, I was in Mike Jones. What's my man, Slim? Slim Thug? - Slim Thug. - I love Slim Thug. - So this was also like during like, that era of Texas rap basically had like, like maybe three years of like popping, you know what I'm saying? Like at least like in the mainstream. - Yeah, yeah. - Like it was kind of like, it was like, it was like Paul Wall, it was Mike Jones, it was, it was Slim Thug was on a Beyoncé song, which like, I remember that. - Yep, I remember that. - Crazy, UGK was on Big Pimpin. - Which JZ did a little, he did a little bit of Big Pimpin at the concert, which went crazy. I wanted them to play the Pimp Sea verse, 'cause that's the best part of the song. - Absolutely. - But he didn't, he didn't do it. I was ready to go crazy. But yeah, all that was really popping in Texas when I was like, like a teenager. - Yeah, yeah. - And I remember the tall tees was really, it was just, if you're from the south, Texas or the south in general is a T-shirt that like basically hits you on the calf. It went like basically, it hit you like to your knee or to your calf depending on what you got. And like at the mall near where I grew up, they sold them with like a sticker. The sticker said tall T on it. - Yeah, yeah. - But the thing was like, you would wanna keep wearing it until the sticker went out. And so like Niggas would preserve the sticker. Even when it was time to wash the shirt, you put your sticker like on the refrigerator or something like hanging off the side. And you wanted it to maintain it stick for as long as possible. That was really, that was cool. - That's kind of like us with the new era hats and just leaving that stuff on there. - A lot of stickers stuff on there. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The top on the bottom. - My hat size was seven and three eighths. - Yeah. - And everybody could see that. - Everybody could see that. (laughing) - And that was visible to anyone who cared to look. - Yeah, that's crazy when I think about it, 'cause what's up with us having is act like our sheet is new all the time. - I don't know. - I don't even know what that is. - I don't know, I'm sure it's, I'm sure a professor is looking to it. - You know, I'm sure there's something deeper. - That's funny. - You know, but that's, we don't do that here. (upbeat music) - You also, you did a lot. - 20 was it ever? - Yes, yep, yep, yep, yep. - Bro, it's in, I'll say this. One, I'll say this, we, I listened to the album today. - Oh wow, okay. All the way through, really, really enjoyed it. - Thank you man. - And I understand, like, you're gonna do press and a lot of people are gonna say that, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause they, like, I guess you can't come on and be like, that album wasn't good, but like, I really fucked with the shit. - Thank you bro. - I like genuinely, really, really liked it a lot. - Thank you man, thank you. - And yeah, thank you for bringing this music out. I mean, tell me about, talk about like the record. This is your first solo joint that's like your thing, right? - Yeah, it's my first full length project. I've done like singles here and there in the last, you know, five years, but this is my, basically my coming out party. And I'm excited just for, you know, I think obviously people will hear my music, but also they'll go through my dishography and kind of see the things I've been a part of. And hopefully they can kind of see the connection with the music I'm gonna put out. 'Cause obviously it's, when people heard the album, it's, it is a little bit genre-bending or kind of touching different things, but I feel like throughout my career, I've basically tried to keep the through line of like the type of music I like to make, which is, I call it just like emotional music, where there's a certain level of like dark energy, light energy, almost things that feel in, you know, purgatory, where it's like, it's in between modes of feelings. And, but overall just a sense of just like color. And so for me, I'm just excited to, hopefully, you know, get fans and people who love what I'm doing, but in some ways, it's just, have the courage to just basically make what you wanna make. - Yeah. 'Cause I feel like it's important, especially now, where, I don't know, I feel like culturally, there's a lot of like, people wanna be a part of something because it looks cool or it's gonna make you money. - Absolutely. - And art is one of the things where you, you shouldn't, to me, look at money as the first thing. Money should almost be like the fifth thing on the tally, you know what I'm saying? It comes, obviously, you hope it comes, you hope that there's a steamroll of like things that will happen, but overall you're just hoping that it just connects with another person, you know what I'm saying? And so for me, that's all I'm really concerned about, with this project. - Yeah, I think about that all the time. I think about that all the time. And I talk to, I like talking to different people, obviously like, you know, I started to see. stand up and like that's kind of like, you know, how I like got going but like, I'm always really curious about people's, kind of path to where they got and like, what they're like looking to do with their art. - Yep. And I think I heard that from you where it sounds like you're just like, oh, I just wanna make shit that, I wanna make this shit that I like. - Yep. - I'm gonna make shit that I like and that feels good to me, which to me feels like we're all like the best things come from. - Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, I think man, you just realize that the day is like, God gave you a palette, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's certain foods that you do not, you do not like, like me, I didn't like peas, like peas. - Respect. - I didn't like eggs, I didn't like lime and beans. - I didn't like eggs as a kid either and I got a lot of strife for that. - Yeah, I mean eggs is like, you realize it's how you cook 'em. And then over time, and what you put on 'em, you know? So for me, I think about music the same way. Like, there's certain things that I know I just don't like. But there's certain worlds that, if I hear it like, oh, I just get emotional, I feel something and I just deep dive into that space. So, and I think that is how you find collectives, and other artists, and other people, or other worlds, 'cause I definitely feel like, you shouldn't, to me, like, it's kind of crazy to have like everybody, like what you do, you know what I'm saying? Like, to me, it's like, it doesn't really make sense. - Wait, but you've also made stuff that a large portion of people do like, how does it feel now? - It just, to me, to me, it almost doesn't, it makes sense because I think the music is good. I was like, I think that, I like that, you're like, yeah, yeah, a lot of bunch of people like my shit, my shit, my shit, hard as hell. - I mean, I'm that nigga, what you mean? - It's good, you know what I'm saying? - I'm not shit, I'm not denying that. But I think just on the, I think just on the, in my head, when I think about music, it's just, I don't know, for example, like I think, like men to me, only like music, sometimes because of a girl, like a song. - Sure. - You know what I'm saying, like, if there's a song that's like, like I just, like I just heard the, what's her name? The scamming song that's where all my scamming is. - You just heard that song? - I just, I just, I brought it on the rock. - I just heard that record. I was at a, some Walker concert. That seems like where it'd be, that makes sense to me. So I went to some Walker concert and I'm just, you know, sitting there, I was going to go see Old Deal. - Okay. - I just got hip-toe deal, like in the last year. - Love it, love it, she's very, very good summer music. - Very summer, so I'm sitting in the stands and maybe I'm-- - They was going nuts. - And then that song came and all the girls just went crazy. And I'm like, excuse me, what song is this? - And she's like, oh, this is the scamming. And I was like, I've not heard this song. - Whoa. - And, but it just felt like, oh wow. But in my head, I'm listening. Oh, this sheet is hard, you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You can't see in how it moves in people in their head. - Exactly, yeah. So for me, I will definitely learn, like, there's a certain, there's an entryway to people liking something. And I think, honestly, I think I'm just talking about, I understand why music does become big. But I'm just saying the initial draw of something. There's a lot of stuff that, on first listen, we'd be like, I don't really like this shit, you know what I'm saying? But then after you hear it enough times and it gets, you know, it basically becomes like a, a stanza that you just say to yourself all the time or kind of keep repeating, then you're like, oh, this shit is hard. So there's more of that. Like, I think music in general is like, it can be communal, it can be big. But to me, it's just like, I think the first initial feeling of something when someone who connects with your songs, those automatically know, oh, okay, these are my people, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause they get it, you know? And if they're from there, other people chime in and be like, what'd you be listening to? - Yeah. - And then it becomes like, who over your friend, if I trust your taste and you're like, yo, you gotta check this shit out. Then it becomes like a, okay, I'll listen, I'll give it a fair listen because such and such said it's a good song. So music just has an interesting way of traveling that I've seen over time. And so it's just funny now, like when people actually were like, what do you think a new artist to be trying to do? I said, I think, man, just really find your people, you know what I'm saying? And hopefully your people are eclectic and great enough to want to have good taste where other people are gonna be like, yo, what's a Joe listen to? Joe listen to these new, so-and-so shit. And then it's like, and it just kind of spreads well. Like, wildfire. - Interesting, yeah. - I'm also very curious, me and Carmen, my producer, we were talking about this beforehand, where it's just like, when you're a producer and you've like, you've done so much. - Yeah. - What are you listening to? I'm always so curious to know like, 'cause you hadn't heard it's been that, which to me is a song that is everywhere. - Yes. - And like, I would imagine if you are a producer, you're listening, you're like, really digging in the crates and like, finding shit that maybe is not out and about everywhere. - Well, at least, I mean, in the last few years, I think I've been like, in like, album mode, like, working on a few projects, so a lot of this stuff that I'll just, and kind of, my rotation is all kind of, muse music that kind of like, oh, this is, if I want to make this type of album, I need to listen to things that are in this world. So a lot of my playlists are very like, like, artists focused, like, you know, who I'm working with at the time. - Oh, okay. - So if someone makes like a, I want to do like this, you know, like some people's like, well, the problem is, and it's a good thing, a bad thing is like, when I work with artists, I love, when an artist has a pallet of like, just musical taste, where they're like, man, I love this obscure record from the '70s. I love this '80s record. Like, I find it a little hard to work with artists when they're like, what's your listen, I love Frank Ocean, you know what I'm saying? - Sure, sure, sure. - I love, they just say the most modern artists. And so their pallet is so fresh. And in my head, I'm thinking like, well, we're not gonna make it Frank Ocean. It's only one Frank Ocean, like, I don't want to make his music, like, just make something that specifically towards you. And a lot of that is just having people, really figuring out like, what's people taste and where they're pulling from, and what references do they like, and what's things are they influenced by. So when I'm working with somebody, I'm always just basically, we're just doing mood board and like, trying to figure out like, how to create a space that feels new. And that is like, that could be presented as, something that's feeling that something is old or nostalgic, but we can make this feel like something new. And so a lot of the modern music that's out, like, I don't really listen to, I only listen to like songs that are popular, just to really almost do research. - Sure. - Like, I'm like, oh, who's, what's in one song right now? You like, a really, you be dead, okay? - I saw an interview where Tyler was talking about going into the club specifically to be like, all right, what's like moving people right now? - Exactly. - Like, what is, like, what's the BP? He was like, yeah, he was doing like field research. - Exactly. - Yeah. - And I think it's important, 'cause yeah, it's the way you just realize, like, this is the pocket, this is the tempo, this is like what people want to shout out. And a lot of it is just, you know, is, even right now, like, what's the biggest, the kind of thing that, oh, I mean, here's another, I was resting this podcast about, like, song at a summer. Like, do you feel like, right now, we have a song at the summer? - Oh, I would say, I would say the scam and when it's probably the one I think of. - Well, I think, you know, like, many other things, I think America's a country divided. I think that, I think that's black people song at the summer. - Yeah, yeah. - I think that's black people song at the summer, but I don't know, hold on, let's, we have a friend here. We have a friend here, we've got a, we've got a beige friend in the building right now. Can you, can you speak to, what do you think why people song at the summer is that's going on right now? This is a member of the Dahi team. - Well, she's eclectic, so she got, she like, good taste. I'm sorry, I'm not down in your taste. I'm just trying, I'm doing my own field research. - I think this is not my song at the summer, but I think, overall. - What they would say is, she was in Texas. - Oh, sure. - Yes, I was going to say that. - I was there. - I do like that song. I like that song, that song is good. Hey, why people weigh in. - Yeah, why people weigh in, get involved and see, yeah. And that might be it, that is a big hit song. And I do like that song. - It's a good song. - Yeah, yeah, I do like that. - It's a really good song. - Yeah. I mean, that's probably the, yeah, that's the first song I would say as a, if you, even if you look at the charts and kind of what's inconsistent, that's definitely in the top five songs of the summer. But I'd say on the black side, spin that. Spin that. - Would you say, did Drake, Janice? - Oh, or Shabang. - Shabang, really? - Shabang might be in the mix for a song of the summer. - That one's, I hear Shabang in a lot. - See, yeah, I don't, it's funny. I do not hear Shabang, but again, it's just my, my ears. - You and us. - I'm in a certain space, so I don't include me, but I would think it's Janice too. - Okay, yeah, yeah, that's in the mix as well. - Yeah, yeah. And I'm, yeah, I'm always curious about with producers like, yeah, what you are listening to. Like, I know, obviously, like, you know, money trees. - Yep. - You know, which is like a song that I feel like is, how did it feel when that popped off? Did that feel like, did that feel, 'cause I know you talked about hearing my type of party for the first time. - Yep. - When you saw like the reaction to that, did it feel similar, or did it. - That, definitely, she's record, it's, to me, it's just like a, a long bill to me. 'Cause I, when I, when the record came out, I remember the first time I heard the record, I remember the first time I had worked with Kendrick, I had sent him that beat. And I think it was like maybe like a couple weeks later, he called you, he got my number. It was like, you'll come to the studio and he played it for me. And I was like, I was like, well, this is, I never heard no shit like this. It felt like a, it felt like the perfect, like, like, like rap record. I don't know, it was like it just had elements of like crazy hook, a hook, a verse, a verses and hook that all sound like hooks, the, the, the, the, the actually melody in what he's, how he's saying it. And then overall like having J Rock's verse was just like a, like, oh shit, this is like, this is crazy. Making soda, yellow, whipping, anal turkey on Thanksgiving, bro, it's the, it's the, it's just one of the records that just feel like back, you know, you know, back day with the songs were like, we're four or five minutes long. Yeah. And you, you would want to, this song, like, you want to hit through the whole thing. True. Which is really cool. So, but overall, it's just amazing to see the song grow and be like, it wasn't even single. It was just like a song that was like, maybe it was going to be single, but then it ended moving on to the, like, I think the next album we're working on is other things. And then gradually, you know, it's, it's like his third, you know, top streaming song. Wow. I think a third or fourth type of streaming song on Spotify specifically. So I think it's just a blessing that, you know, it's, it's stood to test the time and it feels like it's grown into, like, into different eras where people, I've seen a TikTok trend of the song. People are doing a little dance and, um, I mean, I don't think I've seen it. Where dance are people doing it? It's, uh, I forgot. It's, I don't know if that was the one. It might, it was something right now that I was, that could have been it's kind of like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, no, I think it just don't, man, it's just like, uh, I didn't, I totally didn't expect that that song to do what it did. And it's been a blessing just for my career and just overall just, you know, that, that to me that record is, is, is the quintessential, uh, it's who I am as an, as a producer. I didn't like the, the sample where I got the song from, you said, but a beach house record. Exactly. Are you, are you a beach house, man? Absolutely. I also, I'm similarly. Absolutely. Yeah. And it was just, and to me, that, that era, like that 2010, 2008, uh, that whole era of music was like just amazing, in a sense of like this, the alt, like kind of like rock, uh, space where it was this, I don't know, it was just like just, everybody that was putting out shit was just like, I loved it. I still play a lot of those, I referenced a lot of those, those songs today. So beach house had a run, they were doing, they had some fucking joints. Crazy, bro. Yeah. From Baltimore. Come on. Yeah. Respect. Respect. All right. Beach house, if you're listening, we know what you are. Yep. Thanks for everything. Mm-hmm. You know, people like to say that, uh, black people really like Paramore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know about this, which is true. And what did you say? I'm, I, I think beach house might also be in the conversation. What did you say? I think, I want to say the weekend also had like a deep, he like, he like, sampled several like beach house joints. I can see that. As well. Yeah. Yeah. Just, there's just something about their sound that is, it's a palette. I guess like a blanket, you know, saying that you can kind of put in anything. And so overall, yeah, I'm shout out to beach house, bro. That, that, that, thank you for, for helping my startup, you know. Have you ever, have you met him at all? Have you been around him? I've met their manager. Okay. He actually, actually, he's funny. They, they actually paid for dinner, uh, for me. Just kind of, almost saying thank you to me for, for, for saying, yeah. They got paid. They got paid. God bless. God bless. So everybody got paid. Everybody, everybody just feel a good off of money trees, literally money trees for the, for the whole squad. Exactly. Yeah. One hundred percent. We ain't mad at it. I mean, this is just, it really, it really is like, it's, it's kind of fucking me up. I keep looking at new songs that I didn't know you were responsible for and I'm be like, yeah, he got that one too. Gravity. Yeah. Yeah, that was the first, well, that was the first single I did for my, like initially it was like my solo project or solo, uh, uh, venture. And so that one was, um, that one came in really, that one came together really organically and cool because I had, I had been working with Brent, um, for a few months. Um, he did like a camp and, uh, I met him and met his whole team and I, you know, I thought he was just like, just like amazing as an artist like the way he, he, it was almost like he was going to move, say something, it's a little cool. Go out, smoke a joint, come in, put the track up and then start singing again, add another track, take a break and then literally just shape a song. And, um, yeah, that, that was just like, and that came, that song really came in a day. Like I had, I had been working with Steve Lacey, uh, who's been like one of my really good friends and collaborators over the years and so we, I, he, he, he gave me a bunch of like guitar, guitar samples that he had and I was like, oh, let me, let me just build around ease and just do some really cool drums around him. And so, um, we went in and we kind of, we could, took the beat, we kind of shaped it a little bit differently from like how he had gave the loop and tried to make like a unique, reverse in hook section. And then from there, did his verse, did his thing build around that? And then I think I wasn't there when Tyler got, got the record, but he has been speaking about Tyler, to Tyler, uh, creator for a while just to do some, to collaborate on something and got the verse and then, yeah, shit took off. It was like a, it was a, it was a real, and it was a dependent, independent record. Yeah. And that's different money. Yeah. Oh, because you're not, you're not splitting. You're not breaking it up. Oh, bro. (laughs) That is different. God bless. I'm telling you. Hey, I love to hear it. We've been scammed. (laughs) Let's, let's talk of the music industry. Yeah, I can go down all day about that. It's also like to like, Kanye said so much in saying shit, but like every now and again, he'll like get into like the music industry stuff and I'll be like, well, hold on. Yeah. It seems like he actually might be, you know, it's the, the music industry is interesting because it, we, I think we were talking about it today, it's like you, you realize like, you know, like major, major, major labels have a purpose and they do a lot of great things. I feel like in regards to just like, expanding an artist's world in power, if it's, if it's at a level that is like, we need to make and put money behind you that can get you in front of the world. Exactly. And, and again, like, you, you know, you need investment into your, your art in what you're doing. Like, there's, and there's a, there's a system that can support it. But, I will say, just the, the dangling of the carrot is always the, the key because a lot of times for like artists, so I was saying earlier, like, artists want to be big and they're like, how do I, how do I become the biggest thing? Well, if you do this, you'll be the biggest artist in the world. Splits may not show that, you know what I'm saying? Sure. But you, you, now, but I feel like now because of the different platforms and the different structures of how the music business is built around, you literally can, like, make a really good living, like, independent, as an independent artist, if you just have the right people involved. And at the end, like, there's a certain, you build a right team that helps, you know, if everybody does their role and, and kind of push forward, you can do really well. And just seeing how Brent was moving around with, um, his squad was like, it just told me a lot about the music business and also to, like, like, who really has it, you know what I'm saying? A lot of, a lot of, a lot of stuff is just smoke a mirror. Like, you, we have to make sure this person looks like he has it, just because. Don't I know it. Don't I know it. The amount of times I've been in the venue and I've been like, hey, man, you can't be wearing that much jewelry if I don't know who you are. Yeah. You just, like, it's, you can't be, because who you, because you just want, you want me to see that you got that much necklace on. Yeah. And sometimes, and sometimes that works for people, they're like, they're like, oh, he got this. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I've, I've always said this. It seems exhausting to be a rapper. It's, it's, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be a rapper. Yeah. It seems so tiring. I'm like, damn, you got to be, you got to be fly, you got to be flying fucking bitches every day. You know, never just, you don't ever just be at the house and you can't fly on a regular plane. Yeah. If they see you on the regular plane, now everybody on your fucking head, like, it's not just a more, more cost effective to just, to just fly Delta. I'm telling you about it. The jet is very pricey. Yes. Stop trying it. That's seeing. That's how they get us. They be, oh, they take, oh, look, he in comfort plus. Yeah. That's affordable. He's saving his money. He's saving his money because guess what? The taxes go crazy. Yeah. The taxes go crazy. And you actually end up needing to pay a lot of people out and stop being mean to these artists. Let them fly comfort plus. Yeah. It gets you to the same place as the PJ due. The PJ don't do no extra stuff. You got a lot more, like, remember they called Bow Wow? Well, here's the thing. Here's what I'll say about Bow Wow. Bow Wow was trying to perpetrate. Bow Wow was trying to act like he was trying to act like he was on the PJ. Yeah. And that's, I do have a problem with that. Bow I was taking pictures in front of a private jet and then going home. That's it. Bow Wow. You can't do that. Bow Wow. That's, you can't do that. I'm not going to make fun of you in comfort, if you in comfort plus, but if you act in like, you're on the PJ and then you're getting in comfort plus, you deserve what you got. How have you got Bow Wow? You foul for that Bow Wow. That's funny. You know what you did. But yeah, stop making fun. That's a trap. You know, I feel like Vince Davis always be talking about this. Oh, Vince is. But he's the number one proponent of like, yo, don't fall into the trap. Don't be acting. Don't be having to look like you got it. No, I'm not. Look regular. Vince is funny. Vince is probably the most like normal dude, because I talk to him. We talk every couple, couple weeks or a month and I was like, what you doing man? He's like, I'm just, you know, picking up my mom. We about to go, you know, saying about to the goals is the OC, you know, saying, I'm a help cleaner house. Come on. Then, you know, just like normal like, go to the beach with your mom. Go to the beach with your mom. Eat a nice little dinner. Go home. Bro. You don't got to be out there. You don't got to put that many necklaces on. Who's that for, bro? Who's that for? It's tough. It's tough. It's for other guys. I ain't never met a woman in my life. I was like, oh, I would have liked them But he didn't have seven jewelry necklaces on jewelry necklaces. I've never talked like that in my life I'm sorry, but it's it's just like you know, you don't got to do all that you don't bro You don't gonna do it though, bro, and we'll we'll get into the lyrics But I also do I want to talk to you about a song you did with with Donald's. Yes, so the side bay Okay, okay, you know what I'm said you're from the from the project he put out the one that was like at first It was all like time stamps I love you, Donald man It's funny when you put that when you put that out because it used to be called the original song was like 1387 or something like that. Yeah, the funny thing you name it so I wouldn't even know the name of this song because we it was all time It was the yeah, it was the one the one with any any noses. That's I'm saying that song. Don't want 21 savage Yeah, yeah, I know that song which was my favorite joint off of that project. Yeah, yeah, no, I love that record that that Well that album to me was like probably that was the first time I actually like like fully like kind of executive produced the project We're done like that was the first project. I was like we're I'm basically a part of every song and kind of helping them and put it together And so that song was this It was interesting because that song we it started from a jam because we were just in studio in like basically had like a boy Eli and I'm a boy a kudi And who else was on this song me kudi Eli and might be one of the person I can't think of top But yeah, we just basically had jam and started this this the song and then Donald just went in the booth and was like I don't even know what he was talking about when I first heard the the the The beat but it was this it was one of them ones that I was like Oh, this just sounds really interesting. This is I don't know This is like an interesting world of what this could actually be it kind of was like a short story exactly That's I think a short story like like in character almost. Yes exactly exactly exactly and then um We got a I don't think Savage didn't come in until Oh wow, the funny thing is that I think Had I worked with Savage at this time? I'm trying to think of when I got in with him But it was it was it was around this time me and he savage started working that he He called him and wanted to him to get on the record. And so Overall, yeah, I don't know that was just like that project as a whole was Kind of a mysterious thing of the came out like right right at the top of the pendant me and it was just like a And that that I'm definitely told me of like man like timiness. It has a weird Thing of how people are gonna receive an album, but I'll just do like what how people can take time to give That's something a fair chance because I definitely think it's one of his best Project as a whole just from the the ways in the world. He was that the ways in the worlds that he was trying to bring together And we because we were and we were just doing we're trying to basically make a a big sounding record or something that felt like a his version of a thriller type of album With you know his language and his and his and his taste and things so I don't I don't really know That's why I literally don't know what the name of the song isn't that up thick in the name. What did he call originally? It was called 1238. Yeah, that's an I know that title originally was called 1238 and then then he kind of gave real titles to all the songs like we need to re-issue every yeah got you got you got you but the What did he call this is he ended up calling it? Okay, okay, okay, okay, we caught a minute when we love that's what our name. That's what it was. That's why I knew that okay Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got you that's funny How did when did you know like at what point did you find out that they were all gonna be time stamps? When it came out When you know, no the funny thing is it's a funny story now because but I remember He had dropped it and he he I think he just put it on his website It's streamed for like like 24 hours and when he just kind of let the album play and then When actually album came out. Yeah, he didn't he didn't have any titles and I understand like the the concept of why he did that It's just from a sense of just like trying to basically In his days like I really want this to feel like you know when you have a vinyl and basically like you don't you really can't you can't start it like Exactly on the song exactly like starts you just playing if you basically you either you're gonna If most people just leave the vinyl on and they go away and do what they think because they don't want to keep changing So the idea of just having one like one continuous thing. It was like a huge aspect of him So I know that was like a big reason why he had Time stamps for certain records, but overall Yeah, it was just like you know, I think it was just like a hard it was just an interesting time because literally it came and then It was like that's when COVID just hit like crazy hard really inside. It was just we were just all inside So just even hearing that album without really having a community behind it like definitely affected Like a little bit of just like how people won't respond to it But to me it's still one of my favorite projects like sweet thing that that record. I don't know if it's cause That song is probably one of my favorite songs I had to work on. Yeah, this is still the time stamps Were you were you hot in the moment? I was I could kind of I can feel how I was like what is he doing? But again, it's you know, it's all love like I love Domain. He's he I love that he's he's always trying to Like give people an experience with what he's doing very intentional clearly about like all the stuff he makes exactly exactly And so he's he's he's always been for fright in his Artistry and you I learned I really learned a lot about collaboration from the sense of His you know, he's the he's the he is the face of what this is like it obviously matters what I contribute to it and what You know, give me to the project but I think the day is like he has to wear this suit like in front of people and really like Like make it work for for for an audience so they can Hopefully relate to what's happening and get it so and it's a lot of pressure It's really is a lot of it's a lot of expectations. It's a lot of You don't even know what people are going through at this time of the life. You don't understand the the levels of like Trying to keep up with the Joneses, you know saying in your music and your art. And so honestly, it was just a really great learning experience to just have Collaborate him with him that as much as we did and so overall. I'm still happy with the project I think it's like I say one of my favorite things I've worked on in my career and overall, you know, I'm happy with it. So And now I got two questions going back to the album, you know, the album that you that you that you put now Yeah, I'm curious about like how does it feel being the face of a thing? It's like obviously like as a producer you're like contributing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You're contributing to somebody else who's like the face of the thing How does it feel now being the face of the thing and also I want to know about the title because I really like the title a lot Yeah, no the The face of it is it's cool for me like I'm not usually I'm not in front of the camera museum behind you know You know, most of the times if people hear what I'm saying. I'm using just talking about music or very much like like Hi, you know, I just go back in my bunker But this has been cool just for the sense of like I Do like giving people con con text to like what I'm trying to do because I mean I've worked in in school and education So I feel like I don't I don't want to just give it a way to people like this is what this is this is how it is But I do think there's a certain level of like let me just let me just set up the world for you because I definitely think it'll you know People gonna be like oh, they why is he doing this hobby music? What was what was the? I didn't I don't I don't see the the through line and so I'm always just trying to give people I want to give people the the set up for just like The experience and also me just like the the the idea of what What I'm trying to do and and honestly the big the big thing that really inspired me or on the album was when Tyler Got not his album Igor got nominated for rap album of the year and that was in a rap album to me It was like a thing where and I remember he brought it up and speech was like, you know I just give me this because that's what you give niggas type shit and for me That was like important to just like categories and how people see us and what and what we represent and who we're catering to is a huge thing I think it's like, you know a lot of time when you go to a lot of black artists shows Pinter how mainstream are you know their audiences the majority like white kids a You know they are we some black people But it's they're not showing up to the to the shows as other people are obviously because of Finances and things that have to do with just like the economics of What we have but overall I think I'm I'm always just trying to understand that line of like how are we supporting each other and what we're doing so To use next questions about the title. I think it was just like trying to merge the world of like a what Someone is gonna assume about you when they first see you just because of History and what we see as black men, but from the same token of like, you know What are what are the things that we're not revealing? You know saying what are the things that we're I remember the whole idea of like, you know You hide your books in your pizza box because you don't want nobody to think like this niggas reen book It's you know just things that that we mask and so for me is about like okay, how do we just let that be and just show Show ourselves as who we are and and for me that was It's very important to like why I did this album and what made me feel confident enough to feel like, "Okay, I gotta stay in the front of this," you know? And musically, I'm very happy that all the people who was on the album, like, got understood that that sensibility and also too were able to, like, kind of play that character because I feel in their own worlds, they also play that role in the music they're trying to make and do. Yeah, yeah. I certainly see that. I mean, it's like, honestly, just looking at the collaborators you had on here, I was like, "I mean, this guy's gonna get along." Yeah, yeah. I was like, "You were gonna get along." I was like, 'cause you got, yeah, you got Donald on there. You got Channel Trace, so I'm a huge fan of. I gotta get Channel Trace on the show. You gotta get him on the show, bro. You got Vince, who we definitely, you know, we want to talk to Baby Rose, we're in talks trying to figure that out. Love Rose, man. Really, like, one of the coolest voices in the game. Crazy. Just nobody sounds like that. Nope. Ravenlaine, also, like, huge fan Fouche, who, like, I really fuck with heavy. She is that, you know? Ravenlaine says that the music she makes is, like, so, like, it reminds you of, like, 90s, like, rock music. Like, the female 90s R&B rock slash, I don't know, like, rebel type shit, like, I think she's incredible. I fuck with Fouche, really heavy. She is a song called "My Slime" that I used to run up, like, probably, like, 2021, it might have been, like, the song I listened to most that year. Oh, crazy. It's like a beautiful, beautiful song to me. Crazy. Shout out to Fouche. I saw Raven, uh, what she did show at the blue note, and I was sitting next to this lady who was, like, yelling stuff out all through the show, and I was like, man, this lady really popping off, and then I realized it was her mom. Oh, yeah. This lady, her mom literally kept being, like, shake that little booty girl. She got a little, that little booty girl, and it's like, I was like, my lady screaming out. And then afterwards, they, like, came up and hugged, and I was like, oh, that's your mother. That's her whole ass, mom. That's funny. And I'm, you know, the album's so enjoyable, and I'm excited for the people to finally hear it. Oh, thank you, bro. But before, you know, before we get into the rest of it, let's get into some lyrics. Yes. We haven't even talked about a lyrics yet. Let me see. Okay. So you brought up, you might be the first person to bring up a freestyle that you want to talk about. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's, it's a jade of his freestyle. We don't have the lyrics up, but I did, I, I, I listened to it. I listened to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it kind of went crazy. Do you, uh, is there a particular part that you, that you really fucked with? No, I think it's just like, that was, well, it's funny because they, when I remember they, you guys asked me a question of like the, I just remember when I heard that freestyle. It was like the first, one of the first times that I, I love music that just hypnotizes you. And literally, like the, the, the metaphor is, I wish you could play it on here if we did, but. We absolutely can. Oh, you can. Oh, perfect. Like, give me some, give me, just listen to what he's saying and freestyle. And you can hear. Whoa, I mean, yeah, it's really, uh, yeah, you know, sometimes, like, you know, from doing comedy, like, sometimes some of the OGs will like kind of be like, yeah, like y'all, y'all don't focus on like the craft as much, like y'all kind of like, basically, I'll say, like, oh, like younger guys are like more focused on like vibes and like, then, then, like, the actual thing. And I like want to fight against it. But then sometimes, like, even with rap, like, I'll hear stuff like that. And I'm like, I don't think people really rap in like that no more. Hell no. I don't think I really though, I'll watch the XXL freshman stuff. And I'm like, I don't, y'all really, y'all really don't be rapping like that. No. They, this, this, yeah, shall I have to say to kids, man? No, bro. He just, he just, to me, he's just like, ultimate, like, like, penmanship, bro. Like, his, his skill is like, I love that he, he, to me, he can, he can make it wraps that feel like it's any man or any person can listen to, like the most, like, rap, he, rap person, but also the person that don't listen to rap. Like, that's just like, oh, what is he saying? It's like, it's like that line of like being a lyricist, but also to like, just, just talking shit and saying what he's saying. So even at, to me, it's just like, that's just, quince is essentially like, I'm the man, you know, saying regardless of how you put me in boxes and, and I'm, but I'm also teaching you lessons about like, like, don't talk shit. You'll be dead, you know what I'm saying? And yeah, that's just, to me, that's, that's the top of the top for me. So incredible. Yeah. And then you also brought, you brought Donald, Donald's verse from, uh, from your new album. Yeah. So, uh, wherever you want to go. Yeah. So I read the, the song, uh, lyrics from running, uh, Donald says, when it's all said and done, don't be scared. I will hold you. I will always be there. When it's all said and done, I will always be there. Don't be scared. Daddy is there to keep you safe. Um, to me, that lyric was just powerful from the sense of like, uh, being a dad and just the idea of, uh, father being, um, uh, emotional with their children and kind of being able to, be supportive and be, uh, loving and because I think, when I think about my relationship with my father or both of my dads and just, just growing up, I think you, you realize the, the struggle of just trying to be the man at the house and being able to, uh, uh, not, almost like not show emotion and just kind of be like, hard ass. And for me, it was like, as I've gotten older and just understand it, the vulnerability that I've, I'm growing to understand him and not naturally be that way, be a loving person and be, uh, be able to be emotional, be able to cry, be able to like have, uh, a shoulder to lean on, but also lean on someone other shoulder, it's just super important. And I think as a, as a black man, like, we don't get to show that side as much, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Um, so overall, it's just, it was to me, it was just like powerful thing of just basically being, being that dude where you're able to, to just be, uh, uh, uh, someone that's actually lean on and, and, and console and, I know that, that, that, that lyric overall, but just like, it hit me in the sense of like, yeah, I, I, I, I need that for myself, but also I need to make sure I get that to my children. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So, no, that's deep. That's beautiful. Yeah, man. See, I can, I can be beautiful. I like, you, you said, you said it as if right before you came in here, somebody was like, Nick, you could never be, you were like, wait till I get on the, wait till we talk about it. I got some beautiful thoughts. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's awesome. And then I think this other one is, this is from, this is your verse. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, so this verse is, uh, record, uh, from, uh, rest of your life, uh, feature myself. Um, it's, uh, I'll just read the whole, and it's, uh, see how it feels. You like to chill, niggas be dying, not a big deal. For all the blood, somebody will clean it if it spills, trying to get through the rest, trying to get through the rest of, uh, sorry. Through the rest of the, tough tonight, uh, wake up when we change up. I don't want to lose you why you want to break up, cry away your makeup, pain that will take you so high, you'll be dead for the rest of your life. Uh, like this, this song was, this one, this verse was really about, uh, this idea about like sacrifice and justice, overwhelming feeling of like what we, what we take, what we, what we cherish, but also to what we take for granted and the whole line about niggas be dying, not a big deal. It's really just this whole idea about like black lives and what we actually like, uh, value. Yeah. And because a lot of times, historically, you know, the value of a black man has not really been considered valuable and so over and, and it was more of a play on, um, of, of what we hold up and in relationship, I feel like a lot of times we don't, we, we will sacrifice a lot for each other, but also to, there's the times where we, we kind of treat each other like, like shit and, and don't have an appreciation for life. So over, overall, it's really just like how you, how you value pain, how you, how you value, um, a hardship, like not giving up on something, um, and at the end of the day, you just realize, like, when it's all over, it's over, like it's, it's, it's not a, let's try it again type of shit. It's like you, you basically have to be able to, uh, push yourself to the brink, um, good or bad and know that, you know, you know, when you're high on life, like cherish it, don't give up on it, like really, bottle, bottle it up and have it say, I experienced something and at the end of the day, you know, you can say you lived, cause, you know, we only have a lot, a limited amount of day. So just appreciate it. So, yeah, that was just something I, I wanted to highlight as a, as an important verse. So, yeah. Good shit, man. Yeah. I'm a poet, man. Yeah. That was, I was incredible. It was like, but shout out to man. He helped me write their verse. I didn't write it up. Who didn't? Man, it's my boy, man. Okay. Where were we? Yeah. Shout out, shout out to man. Um, yeah. That was really nice. Like, really like, silly lyrics. Yeah, yeah. You know, sometimes people bring in like very like dumb stuff, that's like, that's why I started it because I was like, oh, I would talk about silly shit with my friends, but sometimes somebody brings in something that I'm like, I don't even have no jokes about that. I don't have any jokes about that. That's just like a really nice sentiment. And that's how I feel about these bars. No, thank you, bro. I appreciate that. I appreciate this. I mean, I'm looking at it. I'm looking at all the work you've done, like everything that you've done in the game. It feels like you've kind of, you've, you've worked with everybody and everywhere. It feels like, is there, is there a collaboration to haven't done yet that you still, that you're, that you're still like hunting. before. I just got to ask this question today. On a different interview. No, we're like Xenia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we all the same page. I'd say at this point is really just hopefully low willing, just like finding new voices of new artists that have an original story or something that they feel is important. Because I feel like I've definitely learned this. I don't know if I always want to work on my heroes. And I'm pretty sure you've dealt with it in different capacities. Absolutely. And sometimes it's a good thing. Sometimes it's just like, oh, I thought you were going to be like this. Yeah. You're a different thing. You're just for different things. And so for me at this point is really like anything that comes natural from from marketing new artists or somebody that has something special to say or just needs help overall, that's what I'm here to do or be a part of. And I enjoy helping people in their journey and their music or careers. And hopefully for me too, this album comes out like hopefully there's things that I could do with an artist and we can do together as a unit. So overall, I'm just I'm excited for the different opportunities and doors that are open from this project and lower willing. Yeah, I'll be back here and we can talk about some else. Bro, I do that we do got I feel like we can do this for three hours. For sure. For sure. We really go for sure. Do you do like newer artists who are like still coming up? Do they hit up? Do they hit you up a lot? Yeah, 100% 100%. And it's it's interesting because to you you're finding through TikTok and through like Instagram, it's just interesting. A finding artist do these platforms because you get to actually see them perform through like short short form entertainment. So it's like it's interesting to see how they're building their worlds around like a new medium. And so that's really fun to be a part of and seeing. But overall, I mean, I'm just like I always say I just don't want to be the only guy at the club. Like I'm trying to like keep. It's a delicate balance. It's a balance, bro. You want to keep you don't want to be like completely out of touch. You don't want to be out of touch. But you also don't want to be like hanging out with the high school football game. No, bro. You don't want to be like, because you know what you mean? I call it like, you know, like when you see people wearing certain hats, you know how old they are. It's like it's just certain, certain hats, people like certain type of brim. Yeah, the certain type of brim where it's like, whoa, you you might have seen Jackie Robinson. Yep. Yep. Yeah, certain hats are the lights. Oh, this nigga lost it. Yeah, it's so I'm trying to avoid the hat. I'm just trying to make sure I'm I'm having the right. Yeah, rights, brim, you know what I'm saying. And when I approach anything because you also want it, you want it to be an age appropriate brim. What did you know? And again, because it's also like now like get like the young guys right now like the like early 20s like teenagers, they're wearing like bedazzled jeans. Great. You've seen this? Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it pop in with like, and it's like, you can't put that on. That's no, no, no, no, I can't, no, no, no, no, I can't be caught in that. No, no, no, no. But you got to know that that's what's going on. You got to reduce the flash. Yeah, but it's like the cuts of what you wear in the flash. Like you got to really figure out that as you get older because I think the something about shiny shit as you get older, it just don't look because you wrinkle, you know, and you look silly, and you look silly with shiny shit. You got you got you got sequins and crows eyes. Yeah, pros feet. No, bro, that's just those things don't go together. Let it go. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder what that's going to look like. I wonder what that's going to look because there's going to be a day where like, you know, I mean, you already have kids. There's going to be a day when your kids are going to be like 14 and they're going to be like, Dad, you got that on? Yeah, I know. That's what you know. I don't know. I don't know. But it's like, I don't know what it's going to be, but I'm just, I know there's going to come a day where I really think I got some shit on. For sure. And like a child is going to be like, Hey, man, that's terrible. You got to do something different. You just want to, I think I feel like I'm converting to just wearing like, like, like just, like, black and white couple. You got to go simple. I got to go, so you got to go jeans in a t-shirt. Yeah, they can't, they can't say no about jeans in a t-shirt. Can't say shit. Can't say shit. Yeah, that's funny. Let's, we're going to get you a voicemail before we get out of here. We're going to listen to a fan voicemail, grab those headphones right there. Let's hear what they're talking about today. What up? This is Justin from California. There's been very little West Coast representation on his show. So I'm going to bring up some licks. I mean, first of all, Justin, why are you talking to me, man? I don't come along. You ain't even talked about the West Coast. We're working on it. That's funny. All right, let's see. So I'm going to bring up some licks from sugar free. If you and your listeners are not familiar with sugar free, if you are here in Southern California and you are at a black or Mexican birthday party, back to him, Keith and Yada, back yard boogie of barbecue. You will hear this man. Absolutely. Okay. Yep. To give you the quick download on sugar free, he is a blue-collar pant. Sometimes he's up. He's able to throw a hose. Sometimes he's down to the bottom bitch and he's waiting on her welfare check or child support to come in. So here we go. Bitch come get your damn kids. You see him pivoting up my shoes. He's staring dead at the ass. You won't tell them to quit. Now what the ass? Fuck. Wait till baby turn her back. Let little man come stop me in the chest again and try to runny getting cracked. I want you, but I really don't need you, bitch. Because all you do is eat, burp, and fuck and fuck that shit. And because they're kids, I ain't they motherfucking daddy. What what? Your medical expired because they look like they've been eating cabbage. For context, medical is like the free health out here. All right, love the show. Peace. That's funny. No, sugar free is man, he's definitely like our, he's our champion. I don't know how to even describe it. Like if you know sugar free, especially from the IE, like anything that's like Pomona, that's where I think he's from. He's definitely, he's like, he's such a unique, bro. Like he's such a like his whole aura is pimpism or just pimp, pimpology. Uh-huh. But it's kind of comical. Like it's not, it's not. You take it serious, but also too. It's like, I've seen this do before. Oh, you know, have you ever listened to his music? I've never really dove in, but I feel like some of his music videos have like popped up on my feet before. Yep. And honestly, I'll say to this listener, to this listener, I mean, this is a special artist. This is somebody that's like painting a picture. Like he really is like painting a picture. Like he, he kind of stepped father in this woman's kids. Like he, he spent a time with this woman. It got kids and they're not treating his stuff right. They're not treating his stuff. You can, it's like this whole picture, like I can really, I can see it so clearly. And uh, you know what I'm saying? The kids look like they be eating cabbage. I just, I can picture it. Like he's, you know, he got like a briefcase. The kids don't like paint it on his briefcase. It's like crayon stains on his briefcase or whatever. Maybe he don't got a briefcase. He probably got like a silk bag of some sort. If I could guess, and the kids are not treating the silk, right? And you know, it's a bunch of little like silver teeth children running around. They got the big, you know what I'm saying? And they, they, they and cabbage, they got silver front teeth, and they're not treating his shit, right? And he's, he's frustrated. Um, so sugar-free, if you listen, and we know that you are, thank you for paying this beautiful picture. This is like, you know, you, you know, he kind of, he kind of reminds me of Brusa Wolf. Who's Brusa, right over there? Brusa Wolf, he's a guy to Detroit. He uh, he's also like their, their cadence kind of reminds me of each other. I feel like it's funny. Like he reminds you of uh, you know, Roscoe P. Coltrane. He did, he was on uh, the goddamn record with the clips. Okay. Okay. To me is that, is that off kilter flow? Yeah. Where you kind of, or just talking. Mm-hmm. But you still fit in the case of the bar. I've spoken word, spoken word. Yeah. But he's kind of like in his, yeah, he's in his own little pocket. Yeah, he's hard. Yeah. Uh, dahi, that's all we got for today. Yo, brother, thank you so much for pulling up. Uh, y'all, be sure to go get that black boy alternative wherever you find music. Appreciate that. It's, I've heard it like legitimately is like very, very good. I think y'all gonna enjoy it. And uh, if you listen to this, if you listen to this show, I think you don't like the album truly. And uh, yeah, anything else you want to say to the people before you get out of here? No, man. Stay, stay tight, man. Stay, stay, stay, stay fresh. We're appropriate clothes. Yeah. And know what that is. Know what that is. Stay and stay and stay in your right age bracket. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. No, I appreciate you, bro. Yeah, I appreciate you. Thank you. Bye y'all. My favorite lyrics is a production by disco nap. 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