Da'Vine Joy Randolph Lights Up The House

- I literally was like, "Okay, so in the opportunity and chance "that we continue to go on in this manner, "there will be no Oscar curse for us." - I know that, I said right. - Oh, this is all, this is like, this is my-- (upbeat music) - I know what to do. - And people like, "Oh my God, you're getting out." (laughing) - What is up, neighbors? We've got Daveine Joy Randolph pulling up to the house today. She is a golden globe winner. She's also a baffer winner. She's a Tony and Emmy nominated actress. And baby, when she won that Academy Award for the Holdovers, we all won. Am I right? She's back as Detective Williams in season six of Only Murders in the Building. And I bet she's the kind of house guess. Who one minute, you're crying laugh in the next minute, you might just be crying, but it's all good. Let's get into it. - Oh, shoot. - I'm scared I'm so heavy here, I'm so heavy right here. - Okay, so I made this a little cocktail. This is the signature cocktail of the house. I call it the Amigo Spritz. To celebrate your finally being on the show. - I'm so excited. - I'm so excited. - I'm so excited. - Cheers. - Cheers D. I'm like eyes, eyes. - That's delicious. - It's good, right? - It's very slow. - It feels like apparel, but like easier. - Em busier. - Em busier. - First of all, you look so good. Are you feeling so good? - I feel so good today. I'm so grateful to be here. - I'm so glad you are here. Every time I see you, it's like I'm excited to big you up. I'm excited to love when you're in your life. - I can feel excited when I see on the carpet. - Uh-uh. Me first. (all laughing) - I gotta get your phone. (all laughing) - You love so real. You love so hard and it's undeniable. Every time I walk away from an interaction with you, I'm like, yes, this is what it's supposed to feel like. - I really appreciate that. - Do you know? - Absolutely. - How are you feeling today with like all that's going on? I feel like in the world. Are you feeling like you wake up in the morning? Are you like, oh no, how are we gonna get through the day? Or like what's getting you through? - Prayer. - I hear that. - You wake up. You're like, write your brain downloads like, so this is the world. You're like, oh, okay. And then it's just like, but that doesn't necessarily have to be my story per se today, right? I had to make a choice that I think I started doing it during the pandemic specifically where I was like, I'm going to choose not to be delusional per se, but I don't have to carry the weight of all of this on me today. - All the time. - All the time today. Like, yes, everything's happening. Yikes and at the same time, how am I choosing to carry out my day? Because I think when people do have light like we do, we have a responsibility, right? And so it's kind of like, I'd very much so have like a morning ritual for myself to like, center myself so that when I go out into the day, I can do so. - Ooh. You don't know me. - Yes, I do. - But it's mandatory. If I think if I were just to wake up and like, get dressed and go out the door, I've done that sometimes. - You feel it. - You feel it. It sets you on the path of like, something good for the day. - Yeah. - 'Cause you don't know what the day's gonna bring. - You have no idea. - But at least you can load it on the front end with as much good stuff as you possibly can. - Exactly. - And so speaking of that, I know you like to cook. - I do. And you have a beautiful kitchen. - I like to cook. We built this kitchen in lovely pots. - At the time of the brown. - You have a very good oil. - Algae oil. Who knew? Don't you love it? Do you understand? - I'm glad people now know what I'm talking about. - When you live in color. - When you said it, I said, oh my God. I felt the same way. - I think this is our version of the mix here. - Yeah. - You said I'm saying, when I went into Williams Sedoma, I said, oh this is all, it's like it's removed. - You made one for us. - 'Cause what? - The ball though. - It's so yummy. - It's so yummy. - So I made pasta this morning. I made this spaghetti this morning. - Wow. - I'm in prayer. - Same, 'cause for a second they got a little hairy. - Did you put the attachment onto there? - Oh yeah, we did all of them. I didn't just like, we really did. I wanted you to see my work. - Absolutely. - I wanted you to see some of the work. - That's very, very impressive. - We're making this is so hot. We're in the heat wave and we're in the valley. - So it's a very light lunch today. We're gonna make a pasta. It's like a lemon Parmesan sauce, no cream. We're using zest and pasta water to create our sauce. And I grilled some chicken earlier. So we'll get down, you know what I'm saying? - Thank you. - So special. - But before we get to that. - Yes. - I read, you tell me if I'm wrong. - Okay. - That you have once said, when thinking about what you would teach in your life, it would be cooking or how Americans should be traveling. - Oh, yeah, probably one of those things. - You love to cook. - I really do. That's what I was like. - And you love to travel. - I love to travel. - So. - So that's why I love this recipe. - Yeah. - 'Cause that means you've traveled. - How long? - You see, we've been in some places. - Yeah. - It is it. - So we're gonna play a little game today. - Okay. - 'Cause apparently, you know, when you're traveling, and especially as an American, you might find yourself in a form. - Uh-huh. - We got some situations here. Guess first. - Okay. - So you say, and you let me know, at this fork in the road, which would you? - Okay. - Order in English or attempt the language. - What's you doing? - For me, I'm gonna do it. - I'm gonna do the language. - Because. - I'm gonna do it. - Yeah, I take the time. Before I go to get like keywords, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - 'Cause when you make the effort, it does go a long way. Especially when it's my food. - That part. - Especially. - I don't want them doing other things to my food, so I'm gonna attempt. - Yeah, the negra. - The negra. - My god. - Yeah. - I know what that means. - Yeah. - No thank you. - No thank you. - It's important. - It's mandatory. - It's respect. - Because also, you know, when you walk into the restaurant, and you hear the, - Yes, hi. - I can. - French. - French. - French. - You have Alfredo, chicken home Alfredo? - And they're like, just go, just go. - They're like, no. - Go to McDonald's, it's fine. - They're like, no, we don't. - Okay, let's see. Return to your favorite place or never repeat a country. - No, return to your favorite place if that's your favorite place. - Right. - Yeah, never return. I mean, I get it with bucket list, but never return. First of all, I don't think you can get everything in one trip anyway. I think there's a whole nother level of fun going back to that country and exploring different things, or maybe going to certain places you went to before, but it's a completely different experience. - Japan? - Yes. - I'm just gonna say. - It's everything. - If you have not got your ass to Japan, you better get there for they shut it down. - Yeah, 'cause those taxes are going up. - They don't let us go. - Those taxes are going up. - One, it's the best food. - Some of the best food. - Well, they just want to be the best event. You know what I mean? Like, they study, they respect everyone's cultures and ways in which they do things. They just want to be great. - Yes. - One of the best meals I've had in my entire life was in the basement of a train station in Tokyo. There was a line down the hall to get into this place. Well, you get in, she makes you take your shoes off. I was like, I tried to do the whole like, she's like, I'll bring it to you. I got it. You gon' eat what I bring you. And I was like, oh, I got some customizations. I just wanna, can I have it without the, I don't want the egg and you can keep the shoes like, I'll bring you what you gon' eat. It was one of the best meals I've ever had. - Change my life. - I think to the experience, they really believe in experience and everything has a purpose. There's not presentation, but passion. They really, really, whether it is making a cup of coffee or matcha or whatever, they really, really care. And it really as an American makes you appreciate it. And very sad when you come home, because. - Maybe. I brought the toilets with me. - Oh, baby, every single one of these toilets. That's one of the best things about traveling, is purchasing the stuff and bringing it back. - I bring everything back. - Everything back. - Everything back. - Everything back. - Yes. - That is the best. - I'm telling y'all get to Tokyo before you can go. So I'm gonna bring this water up for our pasta up to a boil. And then when that gets rolling, we'll get that started. I think you got the next one. - Okay. Attach water bottle cap smart or infuriating. - What? - Clearly I just gave away my answer. - Attached water bottle. - So you know when you get the plastic water bottle. - Oh, I don't like that. - And it's a. - I don't like that. - I don't like that. - That's a funny thing that you pick. See, I thought I was the only person like. - Oh. - It took me a while that I was like, "Oh, this is everywhere." I recognize it. - What is it? - They think we're gonna lose it. - No, so that it doesn't end up like separate in like a landfill. - Oh, it's like recycling, man. - Yeah, it's like a, keep it. So then end up like that. - It's smart. - But it gets on my nerves. - 'Cause then when you drink it, you're gonna be cutting up your little fingers on top of your lip. It's smart, but it's annoying. - Trying to move it. - It's trash. - You like when you travel or you like to fill up the itinerary or do you figure it out as you go? - There's certain things that if I know like, we gotta get a reservation for this because if we don't it's not gonna happen. But I'm like, it could be any day while we're gone. - Okay. - Do you know what I mean? Like, I know I wanna go here, here, here. Okay, let's go on the calendar for the reservation to see when that is and that's cool with me. - Well, where is your favorite place you visited? - Like a little quick getaway. That's a really good reset for me. It's Hawaii. - Really? - Hawaii is one of the few places that I can actually like, actually chill. - You know, they say Hawaii, the island of Hawaii in particular is one of the places on earth where the veil is thin. - Yeah, I believe it. - I believe that. - I believe that the spiritual energy is super active and like the spiritual realm. - Well, you feel it even when you're like, in Honolulu, just in general, - The air, everything, the people, feels different. - Especially coming from LA and York. And then to go there and you land, even in the airport. - In the airport, you're like, so by the time you get to your hotel. - It's totally different. - I'm cool. - When dining, would you rather be rushed or ignored? - 'Cause you know like in the US, it's like hurry up, turn this table. Did you have anything, did you want to look, the dessert menu, you need some water? Did you need anything? You be like, I just sat down. How's everything taste? I don't know, you just sat down. - To be honest. Or being like Italy, where you're like, it sucks. - I need like that, something a little in between. - Can we close out? It depends on the mood, right? Like if you're at a romantic dinner or whatever, you don't really want to be bothered. When you're intentionally going to a restaurant to be like, I am having dinner or I'm having lunch by the sea. I just want to vibe out. - Right. - Cool. - Yeah. - A little, a little, a little bit. Just a little. Not as much as I check on me, please. - Yeah, 'cause then I feel like you don't care. I don't know, you're not getting a tip, but like. - Oh, maybe that's why do you think? - I let 'em know, I tip. You know, you let 'em know. - Did that make a difference? - Sometimes. Sometimes you just get a little, you know, they just get a little jazzy or. - Yeah. - You don't really do nothing. - No more jazzy. - It's like, oh, friends! - Yeah, friends! - That's the last time you see 'em. - Okay, what do you say we get this started? - Oh, ma'am. - 'Cause we got a few more left, but I figured this was-- - Okay, do you want me to go through 'em like you? - No, 'cause I'm gonna tell you, I ain't do too much when this is, we only got so many shots, okay? - You get this right. - You tell me what you want me to do. - Okay, so we got to get a timer. - Okay. - 'Cause I've made this pass. I don't know how long it takes to cook. - It's quick 'cause it's fresh. - Okay. - Yeah, like two to three minutes. - I'm panicking already. - No, put 'em in and then we're gonna taste it. 'Cause it's like at a soft boil. It's not like at a rigorous boil where it's crazy. - A rigorous boil, it's a rigorous boil? - Yeah, that's like, you know, a witch's pot like that. (humming) - 'Cause that's supposed to be at a rigorous boil, is it? - It don't have to be, it's boiling, but you know what I mean? Like you see the little beads, it's a little-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So that might actually add like an extra minute on it because it's just not as-- - Blah, yeah. - I hope it's good. - It's gonna be amazing, you may fresh pasta. - You know how can it be wrong? Even if it don't taste like nothing, it's still gonna be good. - It's gonna be amazing. - Okay, so I think we're gonna do the first one. You ready? - Let's do it. - Okay, so this is pasta. I was gonna try to tell you something about it, but I should, I don't know. - Did you use some Alina? - I did, same Alina and 00. - Oh, flower. - Look at you. - A little bit of both. - Amazing, it's gonna have a nice bite. - In a little nuttyness to it. - You're our full-blown chef. I love it. - Okay, here we go. Did you wanna grab one and put it in there? - Let me wash my hands. Just one more. - Yeah, right, perfect. - Somebody set a timer for how long it take to cook noodles, set the timer for how long? (laughing) - Sorry, I don't know. - Is bargaining cultural participation or taking advantage? No, you have to do as they do. - Hey, if we buy-- - Why am I gonna pay full price and that's how they do it? - I will tell you, it doesn't work at Gucci. - No, they mean like Bazaar's marketplace since we markets. - Well, I'd listen. - The locals. - You tried it at Gucci. - I said, this is on sale, right? She was like, no, I was like, no, I think I got 40 euros. She was like, it's 100 euros. I was like, I got 40. She was like, then you can't get it. (laughing) - She was like, you need a-- - In row. - Oh yeah, no. - Over by the Spanish step, Gucci. - Gucci, I was like, come on, we're here. It's made here. - Founders fee. - Come on, of course you get a discount. She was like, no discount. No discount, no discount. Matter of fact, you're gonna pay double. - This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Apple Card puts the power of titanium in the palm of your hand. Now, what does that mean? It means the power to earn unlimited daily cashback on your purchases every day. It means a materially different credit card accepted anywhere in the world, MasterCard is accepted. So this is the plastic, upgrade to titanium. Apply in the wallet app on iPhone today. Subject to credit approval. Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City branch terms and more at applecard.com. - Have you ever been to like Vietnam or like Thailand? - Thailand, yeah. - What was that like? - I had a guide, I might have gone front. (laughing) - I would recommend it on your own. Don't do that one. - I had a guide and they were very helpful. This is getting a little, I'm gonna take this off. Just 'cause it was a bubbling, but you got that rigorous boil. - Got the rigorous boil? - Well, I think it could probably be a little bit more. - Oh yeah, 'cause that one's still in the role. - Yeah. - You have four? - Yeah, to just break up the bundle. - Yeah. - What would Martha Stewart do? - She would get a four. - And just break up up. - You said I'd untold you before. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, just go in, yeah. - Yeah, there you go. - Yeah. (laughing) - Now where is it? - If y'all can see what happened in the pie, it was like all the deposits there. (laughing) We wanna work with you. - I'm not gonna fight you. - Okay, here we go. - Who we? - That's good. It almost was like ramen noodles. - You know like really good ramen noodles to get that texture? - Yep, not the ones you get in the pack for 45 cents. - Isn't that an experience? - Imagine that things we ate and then you get to Japan and you're like, - This is where ramen is? - And how did they go from that to that and be like, enjoy America? - Now in this first, I need the top three. The oil, I need the garlic, a little of the cilantro. Or nice and cilantro, parsley. - Okay. - Oh. - I'm working with my-- - I don't know. (laughing) - So this is toasted garlic. - It smells amazing in here. - Right. Bring some of that heat down and now I need the chili flake. You like spicy? - Mm-hmm. - Okay sweet. Okay, so then this toast for like a minute but I think it's already pretty toasted. I'll take the lemon juice. (sizzling) Take this butter and now we will add, oh, the lemon zest, lemon zest, lemon zest. - Feel it, what's the rougher side? - Now the thing about a lemon zest, you gotta be careful, 'cause you would cut off your whole finger. - Knuckles raw, just to the bone. And it only takes you one time doing it to be like, you don't have to do it. - You don't have to do it. - You have to do it. Make sure the pasta has the good sauce on it. Oh my goodness, this looks so good. - We did a really good job. - So like you've seen this pasta before, it's like a cream sauce, like the lemon you know what I mean? And it's like, it's delicious, but it's a little heavier. - Yeah. - I wanted to do something lighter today, 'cause it's so warm outside. - Oh yeah, that's some homemade pasta for your ass. - Have you always loved to cook? - Yes, I have always loved to cook. I always raised by a single mom. So she was like. - You gonna learn. We're gonna do this together. - One breakfast? - Yeah. - Get your ass in here and mix and make it. - Yeah. - It made all the difference. Like I was, I learned how to wash my clothes and all that stuff early. And so you, one, you learn an appreciation for things that you would not otherwise potentially have. - Right. - And I think you also learn what you like. - Yeah. - And like can do it yourself. - Develop your taste. - Yeah. - Now we're gonna add our parmesan. Once you hear a little bit of that sizzle, take that heat down. My most favorite thing to do is cook for other people. - Yeah. - So I get excited when someone's coming over and I'm like, what would you like? - Yes. - I think that's like a thing too with like etiquette. In my opinion. - Yes. - If you only know five dishes cool, no problem I appreciate that 'cause I don't wanna eat nothing nasty. - Correct. - But if you're going to make the good stuff. - Yeah, but if you're going to the home with somebody that can cook, like I want to give you variety, what would you like? And then I like the idea of like, especially something I don't know to like look it up and research it, but this looks gorgeous. - Do you see, it's actually really impressive. - Do y'all see? I wish I could, what they say? I wish you could smell it. Oh, did you try one of the Caprese bites? - I didn't. Can I get you one? - Yes please. - Beautiful plate. - So this is like, you know, the Caprese salad with the basil and the tomato. - I got some good tomatoes. - Really? - What else tomatoes from? - The store. - As Italy? - Probably. - It's delicious. - Yeah. - 'Cause you know, we was so nervous. We were supposed to have Vietnamese salads. - Remember, we was going, that's what we were going to do. - Oh yeah. - And I said, hey, they've, I don't know if you've been in this. The country long, but um. - Yeah, I came back to find out where you're having a parasitic attack. - Yeah, we are under attack. - They are literally shitting their brains out. - Quite literally. - I don't want it. This was the right move. - When you said, and then I was like, "I just want you to know." (laughing) - You said, I said, "Absolutely not." Whatever you want. - Exactly. - I'm good with that. - Exactly. - Is it right? - You never put salt in it, so I don't know if it needs that. - I put salt in the water. - In the water. - And I put salt. - You have to do all that, I'm just saying, whatever you put in. - No, this is what the recipe, huh? (laughing) - When you tasted it though, is that what you felt like it needed? - I remember what Oprah said. - Did we use salt and pepper? (laughing) - And the girl's like, "Can we make it?" - And she's like, "Do we do it, do we?" Do we? Remember we said we were gonna use the salt and pepper? She's like, "No!" So say you like it. She was like, "No, I love it." - So here's where the black household in me comes out. - Absolutely. - You know what I mean? 'Cause you just got a Himalayan. - Of course. And this household, absolutely. - You hear me? And never been in the Himalayas, but thank you for that salt. - You know who also has amazing salt? Beza. - I know, you're thinking party party, but on the way-- - Do you enjoy my bath salts? - Every salt. - Like each of your face? - No, everything. - Everything, yeah. - And on your way to that airport, you go and get yourself some amazing salt. - Really for it. - Yeah. - I did not know that. I've not been to a visa. There have been a couple places in my life. I've not been to 'cause I just feel like-- - It's so you, I'm scary. - I know me. - Like I would make it back. Like I've never been to Rio. Been to São Paulo. - Yeah. - But Jesus knows. - Don't go. - You're not coming back. - No. - So for the grill, you know when you're making like chicken or burgers and stuff and you're like, oh, it might be a while before we eat this or there's like you maybe it's too hot. I have learned this trick from my uncle Bill who would use, he would crack his beer open. He'd be drinking his beer and he wore a little beer on the meat. It gets a good color on the meat, the smoke factor, but also keeps the meat very, very moist. - Wow. - What I didn't know. - Yeah. - Is that when you use a gas grill. - Yeah. - You tear that grill up. So I learned to get a spray bottle with the beer. - So you took it already, you grilled it on the grill, bring it back, then you can spray it. - Well, I just did that 'cause I wanted to show you and share that tip. - Okay. (laughing) - Okay. Follow a recipe exactly or cook by instinct. - You can tell, yeah. - There was a recipe for that that you followed exactly? - I mean, there was a recipe, but I didn't follow it exactly. - Yeah, no. What I normally do is, especially if it's something new, I will look up five different versions of it. Read it to see what, 'cause if you can cook, you can read recipes to understand like, "Oh, okay." - I know where they were going. - Right, and then I'll pick like my favorite elements from each of them and kind of like from that make my own. And that's how I can tend to have success, even when it's something brand new. - Okay. - Right, 'cause you kind of had like a source research it. - I agree with you. I do need, I need some references. - Yeah. - Especially now, when you do a recipe, they have a picture of the author. Depending on that picture, I know what I gotta add. - They're very good at baked goods. - Delicious. - Amazing, that, to a tea. - To a tea. - Everything you say to a tea. - To a tea, but if we're talking about macaroni and cheese? - Well. - I'm not even looking at that recipe. - We're not. Call a friend. - Bread crumbs? - No. - Stovetap? - Absolutely. - It never goes in the oven. Next is eating while talking efficient or uncivilized. - Eating while talking? You know eating while walking in Japan. - Oh, walking, sorry. - Does it say walking? - Yeah, 'cause I was like, - Oh, I was like. - That's crazy. - Eating while walking. - When traveling or in life. Like if I'm honest, right? When you home, of course there's some time if you're like walking from one room to another. - No, no, no. Like if you're, let's say you get a hot dog and then you walk around the mall, which you're hot eating your hot. - No, I don't like seeing people do that. That really bothers me. I think the only thing that's really appropriate is like, well, I'm from Philly, so like water rice, ice cream. - So what? - Water rice. - Where are you from? - Where you from? (laughing) - Water? - Water Italian ice? - Like shaved ice? - No, 'cause that's like what New Orleans people do, right? - Yeah. - And like Hawaiian people have their version. - Yeah, you ever heard of retas? - Margaritas? - No, just retas. They have some here, actually. - And when you go get a water ice? - Yeah. - I would sound crazy to hear. - No, let me get two, three, four, then water rice. - What you say, what flavor you want? - How you say it? - I want pineapple water ice. I want pineapple water ice. Do you have, okay, there's a place here called Happy Ice, have you heard of that? Like on business? - Are you? - Trolling me right now? If you haven't gone, that's okay. (laughing) It's no problem if you haven't gone. - Or happily take you. It is a great summer treat to cool you off. - No, I've never had a water ice before, but now we have to do that. - Is that our ice cream, like an ice cream cone is fine, but like a whole meal walking around? - I just be thinking about like the air. And you're collecting like the, you know what I mean? - Yes. - Actually. - Yes I do. - Well people used to eat in the subway. - I just was like-- - Ain't no way. - Please stop. - Ain't no way, that meal is not that good. - It's good. - It's not a necessity to survive. - It can't be that serious. And I mean grubbing. - Oh yeah. - Tell me something. - Yeah. - Because I feel like you just keep leveling up. - Oh, thank you. - I feel like you, I see you on screen and you're doing something I've never seen you do before. And then you win. And then I see you on screen. And then you become like the character everybody's looking for. Well I'm watching you in only murders in the bill days. - Mm-hmm. - You don't even have to say a whole lot. - No, I mean this show has really been like the gift that keeps on giving. It is so much fun. I have never been on a project that long. - Right. - We're now in the process of filming. I just came back from filming the sixth season. - Come on. - I think what the coolest part is is to see these two Titans. Well, so many Titans but like Martin Short, Meryl Streep and Steve Martin. What it blows my mind is that they are as far along in their career as they are, far along in their life as they are. And the one thing that they share that I notice in other people that I've been fortunate to work with that people consider legendary. - Right. - That child like spirit, that passion, that discovery, it never gets old to them. And it's amazing as they are. They're still constantly trying to, but is there a better way? Is it how can I do this? And what if we, as if this was like their first project? - Yes. - It's a common thread that I find in people that have greatness, like true greatness. - Yes. - And like, they're always getting better. It's the constantly learning and sharing. - Yeah, and sharing. - There are so many that are great. Did you know everyone worked with again? (laughing) - And those aren't those people and they're full of so much joy. - Right. - They really see you as equals. - Yes. - And it's the other ones that don't. Because those that really got it, they're some of the most giving, open, free people you'll find. And they're like, it's so bright. The other ones are trying to, I think, control or, I don't know, maintain the fear of losing it. I don't think those people think they're ever gonna lose it. - Right. - Or they're not, I'll say they're not worthy of a fearful of it. - Right, they're just like, this is a gift. It runs through me and it will be what it will be. - And I'm gonna be doing this. So go ahead, back to one. (laughing) - Exactly. You ready to eat, you ready? - Let's play it up. - Let's play it up. (upbeat music) - Do you have most of your meals out here? - No. - No. - No, because it feels like this most of the time. - Okay. (laughing) - Like most of the year, it's warm like this. But like, - No, I'm doing that 'cause I think that's a good vibe, right? Or did you just hit that? - Yeah, that's a, that's a sound effect. - No, just say it's because of our energy. - It definitely is. - Okay. - That's how I was taking a moment, like, - Oh. (laughing) - Like. (laughing) - I'm excited, little sitch. This is good, you know? - And you grilled this. - Yeah, but what a pretty date in LA, you know? - These are the moments where like, especially people who weren't born here, like as expats, days like this. And when you can have all of this, well you're like, okay. - That's why you come to Southern California. - I get it. - Are you in LA full-time now? - Yeah, like it's my base, yeah. - Yeah, work full-time. - Right. - So it's like, but yeah, it's my base. It made the most sense. In 2018, we did Dolomite, and then we went on the whole, like that was my first like full like award season type thing. And then I came back, stayed in West Hollywood, pandemic hit, and then in 2022, I came back to LA to shoot Idol. And then that's what I was like, okay. I guess I'll get a house. - You didn't mean that I was like, okay. - I guess I'll be here for a while. - Yeah. - I mean, just two of the projects that you just named Idol and Dolomite, it must be for you. So crazy to read. Breakout star. Do you know what I mean? Over and over and over again. Because everything that you're in, you have such a presence, you deliver such a performance that people end up talking about you in the performance. But it's like, yeah, that's it that last time. - Yeah, I'll be honest with you in the beginning. I was like bummed out or felt disappointed in myself. Like, dang, what am I? Because I translated it to me like, you're a newbie. You're still like, you know what I mean? You're, I took breakouted to me like, oh, this new person on the scene. Like, I was like, y'all forgot that I did. This new person, and I remember having this heart to heart with my publicist who is the best. And she just was like, no, it means that you're actually reinventing. - Right. - And what you're bringing something new, you're playing a character that brings a different spin. Some entertainers like, you know what I mean? If you're like, oh, I'm going to a blah, blah, blah movie. You know what you're kind of going to get, right? And so she was like, if you're able to transform like that, they're just giving you your props of like, you're breaking through, you're making another moment. - Yes. - And that was a big shift for me. - Huge moment. - I thought I was like, actually underachieving, if I'm really honest. - Seriously? - Yeah, when they, I would really be sad that I was like, break out and I'd be like, dang. - What would have been like, job well done to you to hear? - Job well done, I think. - I don't know why. I think it was just a thing for me, do you know what I mean? That when I heard it, I was like, I felt like I was starting over, like, okay, I got it. It felt like a reset in a way. Like, I honestly felt like maybe my work isn't impacting enough for people to remember that I did X, Y, and Z. So it's like, they don't know who I am or of my work. And so they're saying it because for them, maybe it's their first time. This is the first time. And maybe that is the case, but it was happening a lot. And so I was like, what am I, how do I? And she, like, she, which is a huge thing, it was a perspective change. Yeah. And then I, like, number one, let it go and not worry about it anymore. And maybe even enjoy some of the process a little bit more. Once the project is released anyway. 'Cause I don't imagine, like, it is thrilling in a lot of ways to film the thing, to create the show, to create the movie. But then releasing it is a whole nother job. It's a whole nother job, and it's a whole nother beast. But the key thing you said is it's a job. Yeah. Some people are really, really good at that part of the job. And some people are not at all. Billy Bob Thornton, I remember over here in a conversation with him and some of the guys from, it must have been Landman. They were going through the massive press tours that lead up to the show of the release. And a couple of the younger guys were starting to complain about how long it was taking. And he was like, let me tell you something. Get used to it now. And as long as people want to come talk to you about the work that you're doing. Receive that because if their butts aren't in those seats, if they're not streaming your show, if nobody's talking about it. You disappear. You don't get hired. I was like, Billy Bob Thornton is telling you that. I think to what I began to understand was it was actually a great opportunity to be mindful of the conversation that you're having and the narrative that you want to come across with because these are soundbites that stay and like as much as it can be funny and viral and all those things. I've also been intentional about like bringing it back to what matters as well, right? And so it's not just I'm doing this project and I played that, that, that, that. But like you can also find moments of like, because that's part of hopefully why the reason you said, yes, to the job, but there's something in the, in the workings of the role, the character that you've played, that you were attached to or do you want to dive into and explore. I don't know, I think a lot of what we do in entertainment like is more than entertaining. And so I always try to bring that back if I can authentically full circle. Yeah, I think that's clear in the choices that you've made. I mean, I've read that you decided that in your career, your characters are good at their job. Unless the script says that they're not, this person is excellent at their job. Yeah. And that makes a difference in how they show up in a scene, how they show up in dialogue. Yeah, and I'll be honest with you, I think, you know, when the more scripts you get a chance to read and conversations you get to have with the powers that be, they're sometimes a default setting that they will put on. I'll just say characters that I would portray 'cause I can't speak on other people. And it's like, but if that's not actually in the script, why would we just use that as default? Speaking of the pandemic, I remember with like, the whole march itself. At first, I, to be honest with you, I was like, dang, I feel it was something gutterly inside of me that I was like, I need to do something. But for some reason, I did not connect with, not that it's wrong in any way. But for me, the idea of going out and marching. And it really riddled me and I felt very guilty and bad about it. And I'm like, but I know, I, you know, believe in this. And I began to realize that a huge part of my advocacy is number one saying yes to the jobs that I say yes to. And then when I am in the workplace, how I am day to day, I don't want to say battling, but supporting this character to be told an authentic way so that when it's on the screen, the power, whoever watches it, it means something. Yeah. It's way more than just say the line and da da da. I think about your career. I think about you in the skin that you're in, working with the best in the business. And I've read conversations that you've had with directors and producers about roles that you've had and your opinion, your take on how they're moving through a scene or what their backstory is. And there aren't a lot of people who can, who take that liberty or who believe that they have that authority to own the space that they are coming from, especially when at work. How did you get that? I was raised with it. Education was top tier everything. Education was the currency. And so I was always taught that with an education, that's the thing that frees you. And that is the thing that will give you access. Having had a pretty thorough education in this, walking in the door, if I'm really honest with you, certain prolific directors, respect that before we've even got started. Seriously? So yeah, I was like, you can't really even talk to me. Well, not that you can't talk to me, but like, because I've also, to be fair, I've only been doing this for 10 years. So in many respects, like, it's a lot in 10 years, right? So I'm still very much so a baby in all of this. So I think it's like, do you know what I'm saying? I know, I know. Crazy. Do you think about that? No. What do you mean, no? Because you didn't even want to stop just now. You were like, I know, I know. 10 years. Yeah. What do you, you just keep pressing? You just keep, what's the next job? What's more or worse? Yeah, and I'm working on that. Because I think what happens with that is that when the blessings happen all around you, you don't always clock it in the way that you need to. And then when, 'cause it's inevitable, we have those valleys. We're like, but I never, and it's like, no, you have. This is just a moment right now or whatever, you know? But I also was taught too of like, so when I was growing up, I actually went to predominantly all-white private schools. But I lived in the city, like I lived in the hood. So I would get bust and go, and that was my parents were very intentional about that. I had a similar experience. It's very interesting. And because, too, if you go home to unapologetically black parents, there's this like, on-off, aggressive coach switching that is happening, where you're like, I don't know what I am. Who am I? But you were also taught like, and what you learn, you bring back, right? And also on the flip side, we are going to put you in situations where it will be challenging because they've never had to see or deal with you before. And so I would be confronted with things because it was first. And so I've taken that into my work of life when projects come across my attention, I will ask, have they ever, by chance, work with a person of color before? And sometimes if they say no, nine times a time, I'm down. If they say no? If they said they never have, I am down because we are going to have an experience now. I see, so this is your march. In a way, yeah, and I'm like, great. So this is wonderful and it helps so that it paves the way, so that then in some instances, they're not as frightened of it. They've gained more understanding of it so that then, especially the great director, so that then it's like, great, feel comfortable to say yes to projects that have people of color, you know what I mean? - Right, right. - And then there's no better feeling than being in the trenches in the process of creating the character when you're like, no, you know, well, let's look at this because I think in the skin that I'm in, she would wear this, you know what I mean? Or no, she wouldn't be enrolled as the whole, you know what I mean? And then there's no better feeling than then when it's released, and you know the path that you went and the constructive arguments and conversations you had when the right person comes up to you and say, I saw myself, this matter reminded me of my soul and so that this, then I'm like, oh, and I'll do it again. And again, because it is so important and when you have the ability, I think I realized that I was like, oh, I have a certain skill set where I can kind of play and go into different vibes and different people. - It's true. - Seemlessly. - And so thank you. And so I leaned into it too because I also want to show all the different shades of black and brown. Like I think of Hypha Deli. I remember with Zoe Krabba's originally, we, it takes place in a record store. So quite literally my character was like in the hip hop and R&B section. And we filmed mostly the entire season. And then we got a chance to go back and reshoot the pilot and fix some things and we just had a powwow. And we were like, what if actually she comes in vibing and jamming out to come on, Eileen? - Come on. - And what does that look like, right? And so I try to look for these opportunities where you expand that footprint, expand that assumption or even awareness understanding of what people might think black culture. - We're many different things. - Exactly. Neighbors, I spend half my life sitting in this vehicle, driving the studio, sitting in traffic, getting the car washed, sitting in traffic, driving an events or dinner, sitting in traffic. But thank God I can listen to audiobooks on Amazon Music Unlimited to get me through it. And right now I'm listening to Becoming by Michelle Obama. And let me tell you, her voice is so sweet. thing too, because imagine me getting ready to go off on the car that just cut me off. And then suddenly you hear in surround sound, mind you, when they go low, we go high. Michelle, we are becoming who we're meant to be, but I'm not there yet. But it just lifts you up. And that's what I love about audiobooks. You can be driving, working out, even cleaning your house, and suddenly all that time that's passing feels like it's giving you something back. And with an Amazon music unlimited subscription, now you get access to audiobooks too. So, that's music, podcasts, audiobooks, all in the one app. Amazon music. Get into it. I think about you on that stage, accepting the Academy Award. What that must have felt like, especially having those conversations about like, I think maybe trust me on this. I just remember feeling like job well done, like completion. Completion. And you know, it was a lot of build up because it was like, am I going to get this one? Do you know me? I'll be honest with you. As I started collecting them, I was getting more and more like, and people like, oh my god, you're good. And I was like, you know what I mean? Yes, I'm pretty sure I was like, he was the Golden Globes. I remember. That was the first one. Yes. And I was like, I was not expecting that at all. And as it went along, it just, that too is intense and people are telling you, you know, I think you're going to do this and this. And you're just like, okay, you see, and you're just on this huge, wild ride. And then, in that moment, it is done in the best way. And then Lupita comes out and they do like, they did something new that year with the Oscars. They never did before. If you're talking about my grandma, she's in a light blue dress. I'm in a light blue dress. I'm like, oh my god, it's, and I'm just bawling. Wait, was this the year that they did all the women that came out and did the first time? And in the, in the space, I've got goosebumps. Yeah, it was literally breathtaking. It was breathtaking. It was breathtaking. And that I know her. We went to school together, that she's the one that presents it to me with the same color. You know, I'm like, whoa, this is crazy. This is crazy. I was already crying. Crying. Now, people talk about, and I'm not speaking anything over your life, I want to be very clear. This is a conversation that people have about the award and career's post, right? The idea that once you win, especially as a black woman, especially if it happens early in your career, it becomes like the Oscar curse. Right. Where's that, well, she's not going to do that. We're not even going to submit the, the, because she's not going to, she's not going to ask where she's going to do that. Right. I think at the core, what needs to be addressed first is what were the opportunities that black actresses were getting to begin with that part, full stop. Yep. And so now you're in a situation where you're either hoping and wishing that all of these now amazing roles for black women that weren't really there are now going to come to you because you have an Oscar. Right. How? But I'm also very strategic. Like, you could ask my team, I'm like, great, I'll be in a movie and be like, great, so what do we have? What's happening? Right. I don't play yet. I do not. So wow. After going in clothes, I literally was like, okay, so in the opportunity and chance that we continue to go on in this manner, there will be no Oscar curse for us. I know that. We will figure this out. And so what's going on? I know that's right. The wing was developing because I knew they find you can't, yeah, you can't assume that now the floodgays are going to open up in a way that it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't equal opportunity. More opportunity. You still have to create it. You, in my situation, you will get abundance, but what are you getting? Right. Ooh. Right. But also, I've always been strategic in my career in the sense of, I was always saying a lot of like, no, thank you. Did I know? Or that feels stereotypical? You didn't mean the idea that that role got me that thing is amazing. But it's who I am as an artist and what I bring to the table and the consistency, whether it was that movie or something else. For every reason that spoke to people and that move voters to do what they did, I'm forever grateful. There is also another very real thing of, yes, you then have that more mainstream attention. Yep. But what are you going to do with it? So that's what I would say. So I would say yes. You were in a situation, this is not me in any way judging other people who've experienced whatever this version of like the curses, but I think in no situation, can we, as black people, especially black women, because I also do believe it's a different narrative for black men that it is for black women. Look at the roles that black women have won best actress versus the roles that, now that was a big thing for me. And that was why from the very beginning, I was like, when I first met the director, I said not that in any way that I thought, oh, this movie could be, but I was like, is she a chef a cook or is she the help? Just tell me so that I know, but I know in the back of my head in our director meeting, if this man tells me she's the help I'm out, but when he was like, no, I think she's a respectable cook. This is her job. And you say chef, got it chef, don't ever say cook again, chef, she's a chef, got it. So there were specific things that I did, like I remember, there's a scene where I was like, you have to show her dealing with the food, showing that she knows what she's doing. And I remember there's a, there's a montage where I'm in the kitchen. We were filming it in another space. They were picking the extras to be the other cooks in the kitchen with me, like my team. And there was a room of black and Hispanic women in the room. And I just, I was like, can you come in for a second to the director? And I was like, so if you just have only black women, it may convey something different. I said, you can keep some of them, but we've got to have a majority of white people. I said, because if you really want to show that this is her job, and it's not home girl down the street that she said, you want to make $5 today. Right. You're going to have to, at this time, in this time period, there were white people who had to work for in Boston, a black woman. 1969. Let's tell that story. Yeah. I think the biggest thing for me that I just was like, okay, I've never expected for jobs to just drop into my lap. And if anything, I would say in this time since then, I have really used the access and the opportunities to now position myself into spaces and with projects that you definitely would never suspect someone like me to be in. Seriously? If anything, that's how I use the card, right? So to speak. It's less of like, well, why did, why did no jobs? Right. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. Yeah. You're going to get it. Then it was like, great. So this is my little card to get into. You know, I like has it changed the way that people respond to you professionally? Yes. People are respectful. And I just put that in quotes to mean and a huge part of it is that young thing that needs to be included, getting it young and young in your dreams is totally different. People feel a different type of way about that. Serial Ronan? Yeah. Who was like 13, I think? Now, for some reason, I think they cool with the kids. But like, the way you want to do and you've like, young in your career. Right, right, right, right. They're like, hold up. I've been chasing this my whole life, my whole life. And my first time to be like, I knew that it was like going to ruffle some feathers, but I try to turn it and instead be like, again, like how I do one said, one amazing opportunity now. And we can have a real conversation now to really dig in and tell stories and position not only myself, but other women that look like me in these spaces of storytelling. Where'd you put it? For a long time, it was in a box because the fires and you know, we had to be careful. It's now in my office, but it's tucked. Tucked. Yeah. Is that an untucked baby? I know. Because then you got to have a zoom and it's like, right there. Yeah. I know a lot of people do that. Yeah. Yesterday's price is not today's price. Yeah. I haven't done that yet. Girl. I know. I'm coming over. Let me show you. We gonna see where it's gonna be. Steve Martin told me that he, like, it was a door stop. One time I went to somebody's house, I forget who it was and they had multiples. That part. So one of them was in the bathroom. Yes. And I actually liked the idea of it. That's super unhygienic, but like, yuck, but they had multiples, you know, I mean. But I liked it because apparently, I think they were very like, after retight person. So their guest, everybody always wants to touch it, hold it, so then they just put it in the bathroom. You can have your little speech in the mirror. Do your thing. I don't know about it. Close door. And I was like, oh, if I get multiples, I would do that. I never thought about people holding it. People always want to hold it. Seriously. Always want to hold it. I have been afraid to hold someone else's Oscar. Why do you think? I think because I want one. So you should hold it, then. Well, I think I want to hold mine. And hold this one and manifest yours. I know what you mean though, I've never touched anybody else. - You know? - Yeah, I understand what you mean. - You are a baby dramatic soprano. - Yes, sir. - When are you gonna sing more? - People have been talking about this a lot. - We mean people. - Like I'll go into director meetings or I'll have meetings with studio. A lot of people are like, so we've got, do you wanna do this? - You look like so reluctant. - Well, it's a different part of my brain. - Yeah. - I have so much like, woo, whimsy and freedom as an actor. Like when you are classically trained-- - It's hard. - It is rigorous. - And you can't just shut that part off when it's activated, you know what I mean? - And then it's on. Actually, because I did come to realize like, that's the gift you have. So I have a teacher with the idea of doing the biopic for Liantine Price. - She was like the first-- - She was like our, yeah. - soprano, like Diva, Diva, yeah. Like one of our first true like crossover artists. - Yeah, the Diva. - And they were loving her. - Yeah. - And ate her up and just adored her so much. So there's a part of me that's interested because right, like that's a gift that I have. And I was like, oh, before I like fully dive into it, like just a career in that. I was like, maybe that'd be a nice way to like merge the-- - Yeah, merge the two worlds. And then some people say that I should just, or just, but end also, like have a music career. I know, I guess so, it's another part of me that I am like, because I do not play and I'm like, I'm flat, I'm off. Did it, did it, did it, did it. I am so, it's intense, it's really intense. - I'm really in a del concert and she starts the song and she was like, that note was a bit shit. - What? - I'm gonna start that again and I was like, - Yeah. - Like to be able to never turn that off. - No. - I think it haunts you. - It haunts you. - We might as well just start it over right now. - Right now. - And we forgot that that happened and let's move on. - Yeah, absolutely. - You wanna go outside and play this game? - Let's play. - Let's do it. (upbeat music) - It's so funny that you say that we were having the conversation, it just kept going about, especially what happens when you hit a certain level of acclaim or notoriety or success that we had this idea sometimes that things, okay now it's time for everything to come to me. - That's not how you got to where you got to begin with. - Right. So for now, like what are the things that are exciting to you now as far as like this business? Like you start about producing and developing your own stuff. - Yeah. And it's something I always said even as strictly an actor for hire that I was like, I want to be a part of and have storylines as a woman and a woman of color but specifically a black woman in which the same stuff that a straight white male gets to do, I get to do. Which sounds like, well yeah, divine of course, but if you really look at the scripts that we get - Right. - And they get, it's different. So it's a tensionality around multi-dimensional complex, messy, or people who are just human and trying to figure it out. I think that's a real reason why we loved Inzel. He made a path for himself of, I'm gonna go about it this way. I'm going to show you what it's like to be in my skin and be a leading man and you're being complex and all these things. I don't think I can think of anything where he's ever succumb to a stereotype and his work. Even when he was Alonzo in training day. - But even with that, the detail, baby. - But what I love about what he did in training day most is that he allowed you into the psyche of a person in that situation and so then he gave humanity to what could just seem like. - A villain. - And that's genius. - Genius. - And I probably could guarantee that that wasn't initially on the page. That's the kind of stuff that excites me and now because of the accolades, more people are listening and at least showing some semblance of willingness to be on board with it. - I love that you said that people automatically now, they're like, I know we can't afford you. It's like, well, let's talk about it. First, let's talk about it. - Right. - And a lot of situations get your money, but in many situations it's way beyond that. - Right. - What is a story that we're telling? What is the thing? What does a takeaway when you watch this TV show or movie that I will be leaving my imprint in the contribution that I give to this role? Sometimes that outweighs the money. - Or it can make the money worth it. - Yeah. - All the money and good money. - I'm very big on that. And I can feel that gutterly and immediately. - Really. - If it gives me the ik, I'm out. (laughs) And sometimes in crazy situations, the more it it is, the more money they're offering you. That's when I'll be like, is that right? I don't even need to sneak read the script. - I already know. - I already know. - You gonna give me how much? (laughs) - Right. - No, thank you. - I already know. - No, thank you. (laughs) - Where did your name come from? The story that I'm told is that it took my parents seven years to have me and I'm the first born. And so when I came out of my mom's womb, it was that I was a divine joy to our family. No pressure. - Very intense. - Oh my gosh. - Yeah. - So now people call you divine. People call you divine. People call you. - I get all the things. - Yeah, like what? - I've surrendered it. - What is your name? - Divine. - Thank you. - But you know it's like, well Billy Bob said, at least they call in your name. (laughs) At least they're calling a name. - Hear that. - That is close to yours. - I'll be on the safe. - Hello. I'm here. (laughs) - I wanna ask you about one of the greats that you worked with, what it was like to work with Eddie Murphy. - Oh yeah. - Because in particular, we came to you at a time in your life where you were kind of like wide eyed and like, oh my God. - Yeah. - And also it's Eddie Murphy. - Yeah. - And so much of your scene work in that movie. - Yeah, all my scenes were with Eddie. - With Eddie. What that must have been like for you because I would have, I think I'm the kind of personality that I come in high. - He come in high. - Come in high. - Hey Eddie. Oh my God, it's you Eddie. - And he is mad. - And everyone does that. - And he's so not that dude. - Yeah. - What was that experience like for you? How did you-- - Well, I caught on to that quick 'cause it was all male cast and they all comedians so they were losing their minds. Like just by having the best time 'cause they're literally working alongside their idol. - Right. - And so I quickly was like, okay, I'm gonna approach it a different way. - Now did you have an interaction first and then you saw that? - I had been in work with comedians enough to know that they tend to have, and those that are really great and have a lot of that extroverted energy when they perform tend to be very introverted. And I imagine that someone at that level, you know, in many senses he's like the Michael Jackson of our industry, but definitely as a comedian. And so I just was like, I wanna just come with a different energy. - Do you remember when Michael Jackson and Eddie Murphy had a song together? But do you remember that Michael Jackson, Prince and Eddie Murphy were best friends? Can you make that as a rat pack? Like that's insane. So when I was like, oh, that's how you roll? I was like, I'm gonna be comming to energy for you. But no, it was an amazing, amazing, amazing experience. He was very open. - We would work on the material together. He was always very warm to me. And I was like, maybe the last person on the call sheet. But when it came time to start the press tour for it, he was like, no, I want heard all the stuff that I'm going to. And I didn't know it was the gift that would give back so much. Because like we said, it's a job. And the best publicist in the world could never teach that. You gotta kind of just go through it. And he literally, and like for me, a low-risk situation just held my hand through the entire process and to watch someone at that level traverse that. It was like one of the greatest industry lessons I think I've ever had in my career. - He's the bomb. - It was a really, really special experience. And I'm just so great. We've been able to maintain that relationship. It's crazy. - Is he in your phone as Eddie Murphy? - He changes his number a lot. 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Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com/housecast. that's better, H-E-L-P dot com. - Tom, slash house guest. - It had to have been a decision you made very early in your career, maybe even early in your life, that you were gonna go and kill it on the performances on the stage and on screen, but you were also gonna kill it when you stepped out on that carpet. - Oh, thank you. - 'Cause you are a fashion girl. - Thank you. - You do not play it. - I really love it. - You were exposed onto the scene when it came to fashion with Waman and Micah. - Really, absolutely. - I really believe that they are the kings of, it's a war season red carpet, a war season red carpet specifically, the amount of strategy and intentionality. I remember when we were in London for the BAFTA awards, and they were like, "We're gonna wear a London designer." And I was like, "Okay, cool, not even thinking." And when I went out on that red carpet, people went crazy that I was wearing a Robert one straight off the, but it was more so of like. But it's kind of like, you know what I mean? How we said of like, when you're, when in Rome, but you know what I mean? So they were like, "We're gonna respect that we're on London soil. We're gonna wear a London designer." And it went so well. - I remember having a very candid conversation with them where I was like, because Coleman had been with them for like two years at that point, and this was at the point where it was like, "Okay, it is very clear that this man is shutting everything down." And I remember saying to them, I was like, "I wanna have my version of that. What would that look like?" And they were like, "Oh yeah, let's go." And I was like, "Challenge accepted." - Oh my God. And it just, but I also am very intentional about with red carpets that I hope more men and women know as entertainers and actors in this industry. That is your opportunity to show a different side of yourself. - Yes. - I have booked jobs because I have been up for something and I'm just between me and a couple other people. And let's say I have a red carpet later that week, I will dress some way somehow in the vein of-- - Oh really? - Yeah, like that thing. - And then you had to get the invention. You see it now. - Let's go! - Yeah, you see it now. It takes more work. It's not just here's the script and that there's a lot of strategy and intentionality that goes into things. - Well, they find it also sounds like there's a lot of time. Do you have, like, are you dating? - No, I don't have time to date. - Do you have an interest in dating? I don't like dating. - No? - No. - Did you like dating? - I did, like dating. - Because you like talking to everybody. - I did like dating. - Shit, shit. - I see you work so much. I see you winning in every aspect of your life. - Yeah. - And I was curious about if you were like-- - No, they over here, you just don't know about it yet. - Oh, yeah, they over there. - You just don't-- - For sure, but even in that, I don't date. Like every person I've ever been in a relationship, we were friends in some way, I knew them. I've never in my life been on a blind date or like met someone I never knew before. But I will say the people whom I've dated are very intentional. - Yeah, yeah. - They've got this stuff together. - Do you do like industry situation or are you like outside of the, like-- - No, I don't, I don't want to do industry. But I don't have to. Only because-- - It was the spin of the ring. - No. - No. - The ring finger. - Yeah. - That's crazy, I didn't know I did it. - No, I don't want to do it. - I don't think so. Only because I want it, when I come home, I want to be able to have a reset. - I mean, I've interviewed you now for years, been interviewing you now for years, and you do feel like someone I would say that's a friend of mine. - Absolutely. - I will hope so. - You really do. And like there is a whole lot of intention of in your interactions. And so-- - Yeah, so imagine dating someone that's just an actor. Like just to be an actor. - Sometimes I think that's like, that's vanity. You know me like, as you get older, I think the prioritization of one's peace and well-being trumps everything. I love the idea of being taught something I didn't know, or me teaching them something I didn't know. But if we fundamentally just don't have certain shared experience, or just even a part had experiences that we can come and talk together about. - What are we doing? - Long term, no, no. A fun time to tell that you know your home girl's girl, you know I did it, guy? Oh my god. Three months back, I'm out. - Ha ha ha ha. - Right? - Just to be like, did it? - Some of the time. - And I'm out. - Some of the time. Did it? Winter. Cup sees it. - No, it's not. - And then I had that memory. - Okay, you ready to play this game? - Yes. - Okay. So this is a game we're calling Good Cop, Bad Cop. - Mmm. - So there are five individuals right here in the crime syndicate. They steal our attention on every carpet. - I love it. - And so we've got to try to figure out who they are. We're going to take turns asking our game master clues about these individuals. - Okay. - As long as you get a yes, you get to go again. - Okay. - Detective Randolph, Detective Evans. Your mission is to uncover a fashion forward syndicate known for stealing the spotlight with their bold, unforgettable style. - See? That's what they, that's the best. - Yes. - Right. Take this shit. - I know what to do. - Yeah. - That's so YouTube, right. I cheated. Okay, okay, okay, I did it. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Okay, you go first. - This suspect never takes the ready made route. - So customs, customs only. - Is this person a musical artist? - No, okay. - Is this person a woman? Is this person an actress? - They're not an actress and they're not a musical artist. - What are your politicians saying? The Nancy Pelosi? - No, no, no, not Nancy. (laughing) - Is this person in sports? - Okay. - Is this woman under 30? - Is this woman Zendaya? - Sorry. - Sorry, sorry, sorry. - They said she wasn't an actress. - She is an online personality. - Okay, so her job is that she's like an online personality influencer person. 20s to 30s. - Is it her? - No, you go, sorry. - Is it Yari Smith? (buzzer) - Close, but not her. - Is it the woman that's on that olive bottle? - But ain't that girl named Yari Smith? - Isn't it? - I'm gonna get that olive bottle. (laughing) - That's what I thought it was. That's not her name? - That's her name, that's her name. - Yari, is it Yara? - Nara. - Nara! - Yeah. - That's her name. - Nara Smith. - Yes, she is fashionable. - And ready made, I got it. - Got it. - Okay, I was thinking she would roll it out. - She's intentional. - 'Cause since the beginning, right, she was wearing like extravagant, beautiful outfits. - Yes. - I think in many ways, she ushered in that like, whole male against me. - Yeah, it's okay to be domestic, actually celebrated. - And not just domestic, but like fly as hell. - Oh yeah. - She's in like designer gown. - Yeah. - Making whisking that bowl of pancakes. - Good look. - From scratch. - I think when I first got put on to hers, when she was like, my kids won it. - My kids. - Yep. - My kids won Captain Crunch. - Yeah. - So I'm gonna make it. - I watched her make gum. - Wow. - Gum. - I said gum. - That's how you do it. - This is a gas station down the street. - But not for her and not for her children. - This suspect has always moved to their own rhythm. - I forgot the different symbols. - You see my hand twitches like. (laughing) - I want to do rock. What was yours, rock? - Oh, it's paper. - Okay, good. You was. (laughing) - Okay. Is this person a dancer? - What the hell? - 'Cause I thought it was her too. - I just knew we were gonna have that. - A quick one. - Yeah. - And just be like. - And be done. - But nope. - Nope. (dinging) - This isn't like a Tourette's thing. - But they're, oh my god. (laughing) - No. (laughing) - No. - 'Cause that girl is famous. She's famous. - That's true. - You gotta keep in mind, I think this is more riddled than literal. - So I'm saying. - Yeah. - Not a dancer. - And not a dancer. - What are they in the music industry? - Yes. - Okay. Are they in what we would call like hip hop slash rap? - Or alternative black music. Is this Missy Elliott? - No. - Okay. - Ooh, that would have been good. - Yeah, yeah. - I was originally thinking sexy red, because she moves to the, you know, she's never on a beat. - But we were talking about with a fashion killer. - Yeah. - Musician. - Woman. - In alternative black music. - Do we feel strongly about that? 'Cause I'm gonna really go for it if, no. - Okay, yes. We feel strongly about that. - Feel strongly about that? Okay, so, um. - Oh! - What? - Ask another question. - Is this person currently making music? - Think about it. - I think I know. - Okay, who are you gonna say? - Sierra. - No. - Is it Do Chi? - Come on, y'all. - Come on, y'all. - Janet Jackson. - No, she don't have an album right now. - I know, but she's touring. - Oh yeah, that's right. - And I thought rhythm, you know? - Yeah. - That was actually really good. - Yeah, that was actually really good. - Whoo! - Sing it up! - Okay, sorry. - Are she an older woman by that? I mean, like, not in her 20s, 30s? Is she quirky? - I don't know what to say. - Does she? Does her femininity drive me crazy? Like, you know how there's someone in the industry where they're like, yo, I dated her and she changed my life. - Oh yeah, is it Eric and I do? - Yes! - Yes, I did! - That's what I was like, how do I say this? - Are Haches men's lives upon acquaintance? - When I tell you they've never been the same, to this day, still walking around the world like, - Before Eric had done it, just minds rocked. - With pianos on their backs. - That's fly though. - It was fly. - You know what I actually think? I actually believe that this-- - I think this error that he's in, and I think it's probably like when they were together that he was probably, you know what I mean, but maybe didn't feel confident or like whatever, but this is amazing. - Eric and I do, it's a good fashion killer. - And no way, and it's almost like she was like, the Rihanna of her generation, like the way she put stuff together, you could try but-- - Good luck, gentlemen. - I have tried to recreate some of that. - And you look crazy. - It looked like a idiot. - This suspect turned their bowl taste into a brand. - Okay, so that sounds like a food riddle. - You know fashionable cooks? - No, not to say they're not. I'm just saying, I'm trying to say, 'cause you said like bold flavor into a brand, so I was just like starting to think in my head of like, fashionable cook, but we already did, y'all. Well, okay, I'm bad at this part. I get nervous 'cause I'm actually competitive, so I'm like, (laughing) - Okay, one, two, three, shoot. - Ha, okay, is this person a chef? - Okay. - Okay, our first fella, perhaps. - Is this person a fella? - Is this person young? - Ask numbers, 'cause what person-- - Is this person 35 or younger? - Is this young man famous for performing? - Is this your man? - Oh! - Controversial. (bell dinging) - Is-- - Whoa! - Their fashion's controversial? - No. - Okay, this stuff that comes out of their mouth is controversial. - Is this young man who's controversial-ish? Handsome. - See, now you talk about the audible holder. - To that person they think he is? - But like, I guess it's not astoundingly like, oh, he's fine. - Is this person Travis Scott? (bell dinging) - No. - Is this person, yeah, I know! I didn't even like that! - See, they said controversial-ish. If they would've been like, yes, controversial then I'd be like, Kanye West. - But they said, "ish." So, is this person dating someone famous as well? We don't know. We don't really care if they're in a relationship. - Who's the relationship is with? - That doesn't make it more clear who they are. Okay. - Does this person have a DUI? (bell dinging) - It's not just in Timberlake. - Does this person have a brand? (bell dinging) - See, I don't know. - Is this person will I am? (bell dinging) - Shit. (laughs) - For real? - Not for real. - Does this man in the music business with a brand? Where has? (bell dinging) Is a mad hatta. - Does this person in the music business who wears hats and has a brand and doesn't have a DUI that we know of? Have family children? (bell dinging) - Well. - Is it Tyler the Korean? (bell dinging) - Ah, anxiety. - That was stressful. - Ooh. - Tyler the Korean is a fashion killer. - He's a really good guy. - Is it a really good guy? Really sweet. It was so funny to see him on Gerard Carmichael's show. - Oh. - Ooh. (bell dinging) - Just that alone, I was like. - So I think I'm in love with you. He was like, "Wow, that's crazy." - You don't eat that. - But didn't that happen on the reality show? Was that real? He really meant that. How is he doing? - It felt real to me. How is he doing? I don't know. - I don't think people have heard from him for a while. - I don't know if that show went quite how he thought it was gonna go. Or maybe it went exactly how he was gonna go. It was all piece like a performance show. - Yeah. - Wow. I do remember that. We were watching it here. I was like, "Oh, I feel like we shouldn't be able to see it." - And they kept it. They did not see it that way. - I had no idea. - That's why. So we got Nara Smith, Eric and I do entire of the creator. These are great ones. - You good cup or you back up? - I didn't even know I was being a cop in this, but I was just starting to win. - This aspect is no stranger to winning a look. - No stranger to winning a look. - Oh, rock, paper, scissors, shoot. - I had to bad at this. - No, you did it. - Okay. - Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. - Okay. - 'Cause if I look at you, then my hand's gonna twitch. So I have to close my eyes, but I think you got that one. (laughing) - Woo. - Is this person, Naomi Osaka? - Whoa. - Woo, I'm back in the game, son. - Where did that come from? - She said winning and he was like winning a look. And I was like, okay, so she clearly has to win something. - Yeah. - You know, she's been walking out on the court. - That's really cool. - And kicking major ass, but also looking like something right off the run. - And I think that's the cool part about fashion. Listen, we already know to be a brown face in that industry is tough. - Yes. - So I love that she, I'm assuming I don't know this lady's story, but that she uses fashion, not only to unapologetically have a moment and take up space, but also I imagine it helps bolster up her confidence and super up to be like, is going down. - She's such a introverted person also, so like to see her with these, like really big, like her personality in these, in these really-- - She lets the do it for her. - Yeah. - What I love is that she'll also do like dead painly. She's like, yes. - Which is so editorial of her. - Yeah, she's like, eat it. - And let the games begin. - Mm-hmm. - Amazing. - The bosses looks are no laughing matter. - I was so ready to be like, "Send it to ya!" (laughing) - No laughing matter. (clapping) (laughing) - Okay, you like it, you like it. - No laughing matter. - Is this person a comedian? (dinging) (laughing) - I'm ready to help two out this scene. (laughing) - I'm still like, no. (laughing) - But is it undeniable? - Right. - That's the part. - That's the part. - Is this comedian a female? (dinging) - Uh-oh, okay. - Oh, so man, is this comedian Kevin Hart? (dinging) - Oh, how's about to say? - Is this person black? (dinging) - Whoa! (laughing) - And is the boss? - We're trying to say that this person dresses better than everybody that we just said so far. - No, okay, so we're thinking too hot. - That's what I think this was throwing. - Like getting hot, like getting hot. - Is this person award-winning for their work? - What's this mean? - It's not that compelling. Like it like, yeah, but like-- - They win the award or not. - Well, like they, but they're not, I'm assuming this means like, yeah, but that's not the thing that you know them for. - 'Cause who would you think of? You said a warrior? - Richard Pride? Like, who would you think of a warrior-winning? - Hey, why? - I know. That's not a shun thing. And I don't hate, never looked at Jerry's. I feel like, I love what he's wearing. - Oh my god. You better be joking with me. - Please say it, 'cause I'm gonna go ahead. - Do you go ahead? - I'm stuck on that. They won't. (laughing) - Like they do stand-up comedian. Or they're like Instagram comedian? They're stand-up comedian. - Your turn. - Is this Adam Sandler? (upbeat music) - I wanna flip the table over. - I guess they tellin' jokes. - That's a joke right there. - What? What was the riddle? His clothes was no laughing matter, but he shows up in sweats. - I would say it's definitely a laughing matter. - Okay. - Okay, you won. - Adam Sandler. - Yay. - Or what happened? (laughing) - I sat in front of him at the Oscars and he had this whole comedy bit thing, but they didn't tell me or anyone else. So you see me on camera like (laughing) 'cause I'm like, what is happening? Do you think he thinks that's fashionable? No, I think it's his way of rebelling or like, I'm not gonna do it. - I think he also could care. - I think that's how he really dresses. - Absolutely. - Not that he just saves that for the red carpet. - No, I think he showed up to the Oscars and what he had been wearing all day. - Yeah. - I love you so much. - I'm so excited for you. I cannot wait. - Season six of Only Murders in the Building. - Yeah. - What can you tease me? What can you-- - The biggest thing I can tease is that we take it to London. - Oh snap, we're leaving the building. - Well technically from where it left off, the murder happened technically at the building 'cause her hand was over. Like, if this is the concrete, it was right there. - That was Tina Fey. - Yeah. - But the source of figuring out her murder requires us to go to London. - Can you tell me, 'cause you can do it now for almost every project that we have seen you in. You can look around the room and be like, great, a great icon, icon, great. Like what does that do for you? - Again, it just, it makes me feel like I'm within my purpose. It truly is the bigger picture because what I'm hoping is than other versions of this can also be in those same rooms. And sometimes listen, sometimes I'm like, I really wanna do a black movie, right? And there's sometimes that intentionality of like, not right now, we gotta go do this right now. For like the bigger picture of things. But I also am hoping that my presence is a positive one and makes one that people are like, yes, we will hire blah, blah, blah. Because you have to keep in mind, yes, it is that production, but everybody then goes off to then go do other projects and other things. And you never know what people's interactions were prior to having one with you. And so I hope if nothing else, my energy, my light, encourages people to experience other things. - I'm gonna tell you right now, it encourages me. Every time I see you're on the bill, I'm there. - Thank you. - I really appreciate it. - I'm there. Like idle, I don't know if I'd have been able to make it through it if you wouldn't in it. (laughing) - No, I understand. - I don't know if I'd have been able to make it through, but you said you had you said where everybody was thinking in that show, and I don't know if I'd have made it. - Yeah. - So I appreciate your service. Thank you for your service. - Thank you. - I love you. - Oh my goodness, you're the bomb. - Adam Sandler. - That's crazy. - Cheers. I might have to ask him to queue at a mic. (laughing) ♪ Hey neighbor ♪ ♪ Our house gets this on the way, the way, the way, the way ♪ ♪ A little bit alive to a lot of smiles ♪ ♪ Won't you come in and stay wild ♪ ♪ Hey neighbor ♪ ♪ Hey neighbor ♪