D’Arcy Carden Loves Brooke From The Five-Star Weekend as Much as We Do
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Amanda Hirsch hosts a lively, conversational podcast episode celebrating recent TV shows like *Sterling Point* and *The Five Star Weekend*, highlighting their compelling characters and acting. She shares insights from cultural trends, using Polymarket data to predict award wins for performances by Matt Damon, Michael J. Fox, and the film *Don’t Say Good Luck*. The episode features Darcy Cardin, who discusses her experience filming in the Dominican Republic and her journey of embracing the apostrophe in her name, inspired by music. Both hosts explore personal themes, including the contrast between influencers and actors, the emotional weight of personal identity, and the importance of self-care. They reflect on how minimalism in beauty and lifestyle—such as using audiobooks and simple routines—supports mental well-being. The discussion also touches on family, career paths, and the influence of early exposure to performance arts. With humor, honesty, and warmth, the conversation blends entertainment, personal growth, and self-acceptance, emphasizing authenticity and everyday joy as central to a fulfilling life.
- The following podcast is a deer media production. - Welcome back to the Not Skinny Bonafat podcast. I'm your host Amanda Hirsch and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars. I'm a very own podcast where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends and you're living room. (upbeat music) - Hi everybody, happy Tuesday. Welcome back to a new episode of Not Skinny Bonafat. It's your girl Amanda back with a new episode. We have such a fun interview today before we get to that. I've been really on my shows. Like I've been catching up you guys. So it's very new for me. I'm always a little bit behind and then I kind of watch it all and just word vomit to you guys. All my thoughts about a show and then you're like, we saw it, we're watching it again with you and it's so fun for all of us. But this time I feel like I'm on it. Like I just finished watching Sterling Point on Prime which was amazing. I loved it so much. I was actually obsessed with it and I'm not trying to compare the two. I loved off campus. Also, Ella Bright was on the pod, obsessed the hype. But in terms of like what's more in my heart if I had to compare 'cause I'm like being held a gun point. Like I mean, I wish I wanted your like better off campus is Sterling Point. Sterling Point. That's like, it's just more hardy. Do you get what I mean? And I just love to all the characters and the acting was amazing. And I want to go to Musuka. By the way, I've talked about this before. I have such rich followers. It's crazy. I feel like everybody is like living a lavish life. Like I post about this lake and everyone's like, wanna come to my cottage? And I'm like, wait, all of you have cottages there. I don't have a cottage there. Like we need to discuss this more in depth. So I finished Sterling Point furious with Emmy Rosem. I'm up to fucking date you guys. I'm waiting for a new episode. This is like, we're in wild times. We're in legit wild times. There's one thing I did not watch this year, which I was gonna go literally watching the movie theater 'cause everyone was obsession. Everyone's obsessed with obsession. This low-budget movie that made millions of dollars. So on Polymarket, 20% of traders think that Indy Novarté is going to win best actress for the Oscars. By the way, we don't know who's nominated for the Oscars yet, but like, is there a chance she is nominated? For sure, she gave an incredible performance that everybody's talking about. I think it would be also likely that the movie would win for like best movie of the year, since it was made with such a low budget and did so well. In terms of the Emmys and outstanding guest actor in a comedy series on Polymarket, 52% of traders think that Michael J. Fox will win for shrinking, which by the way, incredible Michael J. Fox, like forever in our hearts. And like his struggle with Parkinson's and how vocally he's been about it, it just adds to like him already being an amazing person, an actor and Rob Reiner for the bear has 21% in that category. Rob Reiner passed away as you know, as Hollywood really mourned. So I feel like people love him so much. And it's so special that he was on the show after he passed away, it came out. So both of those have a really strong, strong probability of winning, I believe, Netflix-wise. There's a movie called Don't Say Good Luck. It's with Adam Sandler's daughter, Sunny Sandler. I'm pretty sure, by the way, I love this girl. She's so cool. I saw her do a late night talk show. I love that she's like a kid. Like I love that she, I love when a kid is a kid. It's like she dresses like a, like a young person. She doesn't seem like she's trying to like age herself. I just like appreciate that, love that. You could tell she comes from a good home, good parents, and she's good. So I'm really into seeing that movie. It's with her, it's with Max Greenfield from New Girl and I'm Polymarket. It only got 3%, only 3% of traders think it will be the top US Netflix movie this week. 97% of traders think that it's the last house. I don't know, I'm with Don't Say Good Luck. I feel like it's gonna be a real good one. For best actor nominations, 92% of Polymarket users think that Matt Damon is gonna win, which is the talk of the town. Like the Odyssey is the talk of the town. Matt Damon is the talk of the town. I would be interested to see who else is nominated from Odyssey. You guys, this is so much fun of finding out different things about culture, trading on it, and just getting into it with other people and having kind of a stake in all this stuff. Polymarket is available in the US App Store. You can trade on culture, entertainment, and more all in one place. Download the app and use Knot Skinny to get $20 to trade when you make a qualifying $10 deposit. 18 plus only restrictions and eligibility requirements apply, not available in all jurisdictions, trading is risky, 100% loss can occur. Now that we are in the movie and TV realm and we remain, let's move into the guest for today. I'm super excited because as I said, I am caught up with my shows and there have been some good shows. The Five Star Weekend was one of those feel good, couldn't put it down. I was just like clicking next episode and I wanted more when it was over. I wanted more and thankfully there's more coming season two of the Five Star Weekend was announced. And I feel like I'm not alone when I say that Brooke was one of the favorite characters for all of us. Her storyline, her story arc, her storyline, I'm on house with. Her story, her arc, her character's arc and everything that happened with that character was just so great. And she, Darcy Cardin, who plays Brooke, is so great. So Darcy Cardin is here today. Talk about the Five Star Weekend. Season two has been announced. So I'm so excited to get into that with her. - Enjoy. Well, an influencer/reality versus actor. You would sing actor. - Would be more high-maintenance. - Correct. - But I think actors have to eat shit so much coming up. - Yeah. - And even up. - Yeah. - I feel like influencers are just like, they just all of a sudden are up. - That's such a good-- - Do you mean? - Yes. - And with actors, we've been in the trenches or whatever. But eating shit truly just like it humiliated one day on top the next day. - Right, back and forth. So when I was just meaning like, I don't know. We don't mind like, I mean, I'm not talking about like A-list. I'm sure they're different. But even still, I don't know. I'm just like, I don't need to be babysat. - Right, I'm like self-sufficient. - But don't they babysit you anyway? - Yeah. - I hear about that. - And then some of the PAs that don't stop the PAs. - And sometimes you have to be like, I don't need all this. But also it's really easy to get used to it. - Yeah. - Or then maybe I am hungry. - Yeah, exactly, totally. - I remember like I had one customer who would like always tie my shoes for me and I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no. And then she's like, this is my job. Like you need to get used to it. - Wait, tie your shoes. - Yeah. Like before. - Like if I would have eggs on or whatever, you know, like I come to set and then she'd have my shoes for me to like switch into. - Yeah. - And she'd like to down there and do them. And I'm like, no, no, I can do that. And then she's like, it's weird to slide your foot in and have people help you like get your foot in. I always feel bad about that. - I know exactly. - 'Cause I have really rough skin on my heel. - You don't touch my heels. - Yeah. - I'm like, is this, like this heel's like weird? - I know. - You know? - It's intimate. - Like let me do that. - Hold on, I got that part. - Or like there's, there fingers like stuck in there with your heel and it's sweating. - Yeah. - Everything is sweating. - Yeah. - Oh yeah, the sweating. - The sweating, we need to talk about the sweating. Darcy Carden is here. I'm so happy you're here. - I'm so happy to be here. - I'm, you know, not many people before we start recording. I'm like, dammit. Because every word that came out of your mouth was just so good. - Reviving. - I know. - Yeah. - Like throw these cards who needs that. - I know. - 'Cause I have already so many topics. - Well, I assume it's a mom on coffee. - Yeah, we do. Do we talk about it? - Oh. - Oh. - The beep coffee. We've got, of course, the beep coffee. - Wait, we're gonna say as soon as you. - As soon as I walked in, you were sort of like nice to me. Even I'm like, no, we've met and you're like, you remember, and I started, of course I remember. And you're like, why? And I was like, because I love your face. - I really do. I think you have such a pretty face. - Wow, that's so nice. - It's really like striking. - Thank you. - Reg, Shush. (laughing) Hey, Reg, Reg. This isn't, this isn't, - Reg time because we're in a red time. See your way out. - Well, I thought about that today too about shotgun wedding. - Yeah. - Why does that feel like a thousand years ago? - Well, was it, was it like three, four years ago? - It was probably three, four years ago. - But did there's something about like those like, I would say that like, three-ish COVID years. - Right. - Which it really was. - It was probably like 2021. - I think we shot it in 2021, so maybe it was '22. - Yeah. - But even that, like I really do think those, we think of COVID as like one year, but it wasn't longer. It was like three years. - It was three years and it was a weird time. - That things were not normal. - Yeah. - There's still not. But like that things were just like not normal and we were still, things were just still weird. It does feel like a long time ago. Your character was. - That was good, and that was fun. - You had a fun fancy lady. - Yeah, I had a fun little twist, which Sardis Boyle. (laughing) It's such a funny setup. I played Cheech's, Cheech Morin, his new girlfriend. - Right. - Which means I was playing Jalos, practically her stepmom. - Right. - But then the twist is that I'm actually dating Lenny Kravitz, and we are the bad guys. (laughing) It's so funny. - Well, right, Lenny Kravitz is Jalos ex-boyfriend. - Right. - On the movie. - In the movie. - By the way. - Yeah. - What a cast you got to hang out with. - I know. - Where was this film again? - You filmed in the Dominican Republic with Lenny Kravitz Jalos. - With Lenny Kravitz Jalos. - Coolidge. - Jalos. - Coolidge. - Jalos, Jalos. - Josh Jumel, Jalos Jumel. (laughing) - Kali, Sonia, Selina, like so just, we all like lived together. It was-- - Right, you lived with J-Qual. - I lived with J-Qual, not J-Lo, which I call, yeah. - And-- - And it was just like heaven. It was so fun. It was like a special. It also, because it was so newly COVID, I hadn't met a new friend in a year. I hadn't like eaten dinner with anyone other than my husband in a year. And so it was, we, you know, like living together in a different country and getting to like eat our meals together every night was really, I think everyone was like really grateful. - It gave you like a white lotus. - It totally did. It was, it was, you know, like the idea of us all living together and eating meals together. I remember when I first got to this place and they were like, and the kitchen is downstairs or whatever, I was like, what? Like, I can't eat in my room, like alone. I need alone time. I think everybody kind of felt like that. Like, well, we're not gonna be together the whole day or whatever, every single night we like ran down to the kitchen to eat dinner together. And we would like drink and eat. We were, it was like, it was very, they would be like three. I would text my husband and I'll be like, see you in three hours. I'll face them even three hours when this like nightly dinner is done. - To give them the tea. - Yeah. What else do we say we have to talk about before we get into the next one? - Oh, sweating. - Sweating. - Yeah. - Okay. - So, yeah. - We were talking about just like pod cat, like something that seemed simple, like sitting out of my phone, talking. - Yeah. - Would be so simple. But sometimes you're like a journal and can kind of pick up or whatever. Or there's like, it can be a little strangely exhausting. And we were talking about how you, I get sweaty. - I get sweaty too. - And I'm not like a sweater. - It's not like a this kind of sweat. - No, it's not like I'm supposed to. - It happens usually in the underpants. - Honestly, it's like you stand up and you're like, what are those lines? - I don't know why that, yeah. - It's really strange. - But it does exert, I think it's like being not on, but like very attentive. - It is. - Like you're not allowing yourself really like. - Fully. - Fade out, like you usually do. - You can't. So you're like, in it. - Your body's like jerk. - It's like, if there was like a cortisol measure. - Yeah. - It'd be high. - I wish our aura rings. - Onto us wanting the fifth gen. - Could, wait, that's four. Or a ring four. - This is a four, a ring. - This is a three. - Okay. - How poor am I? - No, you're so rich. - Like this is, but that ain't. - No, no, no, it's vintage. And then the new one is a little thinner. - But that one already looks better. You also have like dainty fingers. I have like. - Do you? - No. - They look great. They're a little short. - They look good on you. - No, they look great. - This side is better. No, so I was gonna take mine off 'cause it looks dumb, but I wanted to be with you. - It's funny. Look, I'm glad to see it on you because it, I don't, I wouldn't have noticed it was an aura ring. They've done a good job. - Aw. - Oh. - Hit us up. - I remember seeing a picture of Gwyneth with an aura ring and like a diamond stack. - Aw. - So I tried that one time, like a little stack. - Actually, I'll show you right now, audience. - How it looks like? - Yeah, and it looks good, but then I felt, I honestly felt like it wasn't counting my steps as well. - Stop. - I was like, it's getting in the way. Okay, so does that look kinda good? - It does look kinda good. - Gwyneth. - Gwyneth. - Gwyneth. - Gwyneth. - Do you know what my favorite thing about my aura ring is? - What? - It really is happy for me when I nap. - Me, I knew you were gonna say that. - You knew what? - I was gonna say that. - Yes, 'cause the nap, they're like surprise nap. They're literally like, okay, you take a nap on a plane or whatever, or on a couch, whatever. And usually everyone else is like, why aren't you napping? - Yes, but you're older than me. - But you're older than me. - It's literally like, better and better, girl. Look at you, building healthy habits. - Yes! - Yes. - Baby, you know what it's said to me the other way? - Like, car pay DM. - I love that. Or even if you don't get enough sleep, it'll be like, maybe you could fit in a nap today. (slurping) - I kiss your ring. - I love you. - That's the thing, like I know it makes people stress. Sometimes I get it, 'cause I remember I got sick once and it knew a day before and it was free to me out. But minor signs, right? - Doesn't it say minor signs? - Yes, yeah. - Or it's had body temperature. - Yes, I'm like, that freaks me out. But I think if I had to like weigh it, the amount of support it gives me for my nap. - Yeah. - Support for the naps. - Support for the naps number one. And also like me thinking I like didn't sleep well and then it's like, babe. - I know. - You got this. - Yeah. It is very important. - Six hours is fine for you. - Yeah, totally safe. - That's fine, that's okay. And I love, it really has made me walk more. - Walk more, you're like, you're on it. You want to get to 10? - Yeah. - And I do. But in California. - Yeah, but I have to make myself. - So easy in New York. - Yeah. - In California, you have to make yourself. - In New York with an aura, by the way. And that's important to section. 'Cause with my phone, I wasn't getting to it. 'Cause you're not. - It's not counting every single. But in California, so do you go out, you go out for a walk? - Yes. - And I love it. And it actually is like kind of life changing. I've realized I love it. And I listened to a book. - A lot of your book. - Yeah. - You love an audio book. - Yeah, so what are you listening to? - I'm listening to like, well, I listen to a lot of memoirs. Memoirs. - Oh, good. - Yeah. - Which ones? - Like this year, I would say I listened to Anna Conkel from Pen15. So good. - Oh, okay. - So good. - I listened to that one. - Jeff Heller. Judy Krier. - Did you do a Christian Applegate? - No, but I've heard it's great. - Baby, you have two. - And I have a bunch in the queue. - In the queue. - So I am a person. - But there's so many that I have to like, switch it up. So I'm reading a book called Big Swiss right now, which is kind of like, oh, you switched it up in the, oh. - In the genre? - In the genre. - Yeah. - Like at the same time, okay. - Yeah, I don't do, some people do that. My family is like, I come from a family of big readers. I'm like not a big reader at all compared to them. And they're usually like, I have my nightstand book and my like car book and like they're like pivoting between two or three books, which I don't think my brain's like, what do they think about audio book? - I think that there's no judgment. - Okay, great. - And this is, I've actually, I just said her name, but Judy Greer, who is in the 5 Star Weekend, which I'm sure we'll talk about later. - Yes. - She wrote a book. Anyway, we were talking about books and how much we like to read. And I was really self-deprecating and I was like, well, I don't even read. I like listen to books more than I read. And like that's not the same thing. And she was like, look at me. She was like, reading is like, listening and reading are the same thing. She was like, would you tell a blind person they can't read? - I love that. - And I was like, that's really true. - I love that. Or somebody, whatever. - The way followers have told me that there was a study making this up. - Great. - But I think there was. - There was a study that listening is like reading. - Right. - In your brain. - Yeah. - Like the way your brain processes it. - I think again, I'm not a scientist. Like your followers are. But like there are different ways that people take things in. And you're like, you're a visual learner. - Right. - You're like, audio, audio, whatever. There's different ways that sometimes when I'm reading, I read the same paragraph for like 15 minutes before it. Like I'm like, come on, get in there. And then like I just, it doesn't like enter as easily. I'm sure I have a learning disability. - Yo, and that's fine. - It's great. It's great. But anyway, once I've like, thank you to Judy Greer. Once I've accepted that. - You don't feel bad about it. - I'm reading so, or I'm reading so much more. - It's just weird. I think we need to come up with that word. You know what I mean? 'Cause we wanna say, I'm reading that book. - Totally. - And then we'll get judged. But I also don't wanna say. - I guess we'll say I'll, I guess it's a snake. - If we can release the stigma of listening, then we could just say like, I'm listening to a great book. - I'm listening to a great book. - I'm listening to a great song, right. - I'm listening to a great sexy, crazy book - Oh, somebody just like a troll like I posted this book and I said, I love this book. And I saw a message from a faceless person that said, this audio book. - Okay, bitch. - Just saying, see? I feel like yeah, there's something, there is a stigma. Literally like justice for audio, but there is where you feel like, if I was reading this is a book, it would look so smart. - Yeah. - And so chic and I'd be like on a beach. And like, you know, what's her name? - Kaya Gerber. - Yes. - You know, we're all just like, it's so funny to be like, I wish I looked like Kaya Gerber because she reads. If I could pick anything about Kaya Gerber that I was the same as, it would be that she reads. - That she reads. - It wouldn't, it wouldn't be her bottom face or hair or none of that. - Or yeah. - None of that. But it's true, that's my final answer. - But she reads an example. - Yeah. - And like Jacob Allordy. - Yeah. - But they coincidentally dated because they both read. - They're big readers. - Yes. - Yes. - That's why. - That is why. I do, I, yeah, I think it's funny. I'm like, I want justice for audiobooks, but I'm also like, if I was a big reader, I might judge, or not judge, but I might be like, well, it's not reading. - Right. - So I maybe get it. - I maybe get it too. - That being said, it is what it is. Like, it is how I read. So that's, and I love it. - It really, it did change my life. - Yeah, me too. - Me too. Like thing to add to your.
- Yeah, to the things that you do. - Yeah. - Okay, let's start from the beginning, which is, I know you probably get asked about the apostrophe, but I wanna know, since your name is Darcy, and you added it. - I did. - Do people think they have to say it? - Sometimes it's funny. I do get, so I added it when I was like 11 or 12, because I was obsessed with the band Smashing Pumpkins, and the bassist in Smashing Pumpkins is a Darcy with an apostrophe, so I just sort of took it. - Yeah, she's the apostrophe capital A, and I was the lower case A, so I just changed it, and like never looked back. And yeah, sometimes people say Darcy, and I think because I think-- - I think you were saying Darcy. - I get it, I get it. - Are you not? - She's like catching strays while I eat my chomp in the corner. - Absolutely. - I think you were saying Darcy. - It's okay, I did an entire movie with Jake Johnson, and he was calling me Darcy the whole time, and I have it. - What movie did you do together? - We did speaking of COVID times. We did this movie called Ride the Eagle, that he wrote very small. It was Susan Strandon played his mom. It was great, very small. It was such a small movie that like, and it was such a COVID movie that no actors were ever in a scene together. - Wow. - It was all like phone calls and video, and he was like with his dog the whole time. It's great, it's great. So we hadn't actually been in a room together, but we had all these phone calls in the movie, and then when we were doing press, he was like, well, Darcy, and I was like, I finally was like, man, you gotta stop. It's Darcy, I love you. I like, you need to stop. - I guess that's the only way that people can say it. - Yeah, yeah. - If they're trying to include the apocalypse of me. - But other than Jake, because I put it in myself, if somebody says Darcy, I'm like, let me just let that go. - Okay, well, what in you at what, 17 years old? - Well, how long were you? - Like 12. - Oh, yes. Junior high, like 11, 12. - I don't why I'm like 17, and it was guessing. - That feels more like, I'm gonna make a change in my life. - So what was it? You felt like it wasn't cool? It felt like she was so cool. - Oh, you wanted to be her. - And I actually didn't like my name. I was always like, Darcy. Like I didn't know a single other Darcy, felt like a boy's name. Like there was just too many things, I don't, it kinda is. - Really? - Oh, like Mr. Darcy. - Yeah, maybe Mr. Darcy. (laughing) - I don't know any boys that are Darcy. - I think, well, this is funny. I feel like I grew up knowing a fact, which was like, boy is an Ireland, our name Darcy, but I'm like, I've never met one. I've never met one. But. - You probably sought out that information. - Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. - But anyway, when it was just one of those things like, I don't know, you see, it's, I'm like representation matters. (laughing) It's like you see yourself and someone else, and you're like, finally I feel cool or something. - Yeah. - So she was like, made the kind of music that I liked. Her name was Darcy. She was literally cool. - Yeah. - And so I just was like, me wanna be that. - And your parents were down. - They were kinda like, the way I would describe it is they were like, huh? (laughing) They were like, what are you doing? And I'm sure they were like, I'm sure this won't last. And now here we are. - But you had to change, like, add it. - Yes. - It's wild. - That was, that's like a documentary. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like going through the process of adding the apostrophe. - It's so funny. - But I guess it's easier when you're younger 'cause you have less documents. - It's funny. I didn't do it until I changed my last name when I got married. So I was like, illegally. But also you can kinda just do that. - Right, you could decide whatever you want. - And then I started, yeah, like, yeah. I just, I occasionally like, when I was really young, I would get on a plane or whatever. And they would be like, wait a second. This doesn't, and I'd just be like, just chill out. - It's so wild. - Or you would fill in your name. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, if that doesn't match with this like identification or whatever, but that's not an issue anymore. - So you did that after you got married, which cardin is your married name? - Married name. - Yeah. - And that's also a little bit of like, I like, it's a little bit of like, I like the name. I like the way Darcy, Cardin sounded. - Right. - Dark card. - What is your maiden name? - My maiden name is Erykin. - Erykin. - Beautiful, but very hard to pronounce and it always like, a rocan, a rock-in. - Right. - Yeah, never pronounced correctly. - Sorry to my siblings. (laughing) - Sorry, bye. - Backie. - I'm like, leaving y'all in the dust. Mine's easy now. - Right, yours is easy. So that's why you married him. - Yeah. (laughing) - But it is like a funny thing to take someone else's last name. Did you have you? - I did it. - Yeah. I mean, I feel like these days most people don't. - I was thinking about that too. - I also don't think I'm the type of person that. - That would. - If it was. - But I just was like. - Darcy, Cardin. - I just can't see it like, that's gonna work. - That is funny. Like, we both have a similar last name, but I think it was. - What was it? It was kind of like. - You don't remember? - No. (laughing) - I mean, I don't remember why. - What was it? - No, I don't remember why I didn't go through with it. - 'Cause his is. No, I'm saying it's similar. His is white. - Yes. - And mine is harsh. - It's the same. - It was the same name. - But I did it. - You don't have to. - And then with having kids you kind of want to. - I get that. - And then you're like. - That's not like important enough for me. - I know. - You can really like, there's pros and cons, there's like something sweet about having the same name in like a family sort of way. - Right, and there's like the family. - There's also something insane more than anything. It's insane that we would live our whole lives as a certain name and then we'd be like. - Insane. - And now I'll have yours. - Right. - And this will be normal. - It's insane. - But people really look forward to it. A lot of women do, you know? - And I like, I do like, there is something sort of, I guess it's a little old fashion or something. There is something about it. I'm almost like, we're a brethren sister. (laughing) - We grew up together. - It's my sibling. I keep doing this with my husband where we're talking about this one specific cousin who we love so much. I need a, who lives in New York. And when I'm telling friends that we're gonna like, visit her or whatever I say, our cousin, Neva. And I'm like, we're not siblings. It's my husband. - We've been together for so many years. - How many years? - How many, how many years? - Like, like a two zero. - Wow, gulp. - Gulp. - I mean, me almost two. - Yeah. - Me 15. - Me 15, pen 15. - That's a lot of year. - Me 15 is the same as me 20. - It's kind of the same. - It's almost like once you get to like eight. You're like, yeah, yeah. I mean, or whatever. I mean, whatever, whatever the, - So 20 together total. - Yeah. - Wow. - Maybe 21, maybe 20 years. - You were right in aversaries and stuff. - Sort of. - Yeah. - Yeah, I think like, we started as friends, so our beginning is like a little murky. It's like friends, best friends. Kind of like kiss here and there and then like, no. And then like, yes. And then it's like, when did we start? - And you met a Disneyland that I read. - That's true. - It's the weirdest little fact. And all that really means is, doesn't it sound like we went on like a Disneyland app for like singles or something? - No, to me, it sounds like my, this might sound worse, but like you went with like a group of friends to Disneyland. - But that is what it is, bitch. This might sound worse. (laughing) - Oh, okay. - Okay. - Preface, I'm not a Disney person. - And as you shouldn't be. - Okay. - Or as you should be, I love you Disneyland. But I was visiting friends who were going to Disney, I was visiting friends in LA. - Okay. - They were like, our friends are going to Disneyland, come with us. - So it's exactly what it was. - Sounds even worse. It sounds like something I can't imagine. It sounds like something I would throw up if I had to do, which is go to Disneyland with friends. - She said, "Oh, I'm going to Disneyland." But yeah, so I just went with their group of friends and he was in that group. - Wait, that's crazy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then it was like, you wanna go on the, kind of. Actually, there was like a little tiny, teeny, teeny bit of a cute moment. We didn't like, we didn't start dating that day, we didn't anything that day. We just, I just feel like he's hot. But there was like a moment where we were getting on Mr. Toads Wild Ride of Ride. You don't know because you're not a Disneyland person. And I was kind of like the odd man out. I was gonna ride with like the little kid. And he's like, ride with me. And then the guy who was like, put your seatbelt on, blah, blah, blah. He was abnormally, Disney people are so nice. And he was like yelling at people. He's like, grab your kids. Make sure you're holding their hand or whatever. And so Jason like held my hand. I've never really told this before. 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Just like a regular, regular person. Yeah, but like then you're like, everyone's kind of like, sliving. Good for them. I mean, not everyone. Our country is burning. I know, I know. But it's like whoever follows me apparently is going in the Antucket. That's actually great. That's great for you. We need to get that ore ring money so we can go in the Antucket. We need to get to ore ring five. First and foremost. First. Okay, before we get to five star weekend, which I'm obsessed with beyond and we'll probably not shut up about it once a week. I go there. Yeah. So grew up in California. Yeah, so the one of four. One of four. It's a big, big fam. One of how many? I'm one of three. One of three. Yeah, there is something different about four and three. Four feels crazy to me. Also, my husband has five in his family and I'm like, five. Wow. Although I feel like one time my mom was, my mom said something like, going from one to two, going, okay, going from one to two is insane. Yeah. It's like night and day. Right. Going from two to three is nothing. Three to four is nothing. It's like once you've done two, everything else is just like, which I don't know if that's true or not. People say that. But also, we, there's like three older kids and then one younger kid. Oh. So when the younger one came along, we were sort of like. What number are you? I'm second. You're second. And then my little sister's nine years younger. And what are the, who's they need? The genders. Yeah. Girl girl girl girl boy girl. Oh, yeah. Interesting girl girl boy girl. Yeah, we're all really close. I was texting with them on the way here. You're all really close and is everyone spread out. Yeah, we are. We used to not be. Or ring or ring. We, there was like a moment of like maybe two or three years when my brother and my little sister and I all lived within like a two minute, I mean, two minute drive in LA where we were like they were across the street and I was up the hill. That's not like it won't be like this forever. And then it wasn't. And then it wasn't. And then yeah, even just moving 20 minutes away or whatever. And then my sister moved to Portland. And that's been good for them. Sad for me. Do you visit a lot? Really? Yes. That's sweet. I was there last week. Portland, Oregon. Yeah, which is really beautiful. And from LA, it's like, it's easy. It's not that crazy. Yeah, it's not that crazy. It's was close. You got it. Great. Yeah, where were you born? Or were yeah, so you're New York key. Yeah, when they are key. And we all live like three locks away from each other. I love that. I know, but it gets cray cray. Right. I know. But just imagine if you didn't have it. I know. I do. I do. Yeah. And also you do have your three sisters and a brother. Yes. So in my older sister has always lived in the Bay Area. And she's always like, you guys should be like, are you guys hanging out? Oh, she gets jelly. Yeah, right. Which is so cute. It is so cute. We'll send a picture to her. And she's like, great. Is anyone else like in the biz? My brother's an editor. He works for Netflix. Oh, cool. And then my, well, yeah, I mean, my sister married my friend who's an actor and a writer. Oh, really? She's amazing. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, who is it? His name's Nate Dern. We came up doing improv together. And he wrote for the tonight show. And he's written a book. And he's like, yeah, he's in the business. It's cool. So you introduced them? Yes. Oh, wow. You're going to happen or something? I know. I can't wait to go to heaven. Not too soon. God. Don't get me any ideas. He's like, all right. That's very good place. That's a very good place of us. I know. Wait, so, okay, so force siblings. And then your dad was like theater. Yeah, my dad did do a few plays. But mostly he and my mom were in the music business. So he had like a music magazine. Back when magazines really ruled the world. And called BAM, which was like a California-based music magazine. In the 70s, 80s and 90s. Sounds very cool. It was very cool. Yeah. It was very cool. It was very cool. And is that like,
'cause you grew up with it, you feel like you went in this direction. - You know, I have thought that before that like, you know, even though like the music business isn't acting, there is something like people being on stage, - Performing. - Seeing them and then like getting to see them backstage afterwards and being like, that's the same person. Like you kind of put some things together. Like that's possible. - Right. - Whereas like, you know, I always think, if you grew up somewhere, I don't know, like name a random state in the middle of the country or whatever, where you just like never saw a movie being filmed or whatever, you just, there's like a disconnect. - You wouldn't know that it's possible. - I don't like get there, yeah, yeah. So it wasn't like a one-to-one, but there's a little bit of like, I feel like I, not like a leg up. I don't know what it is where you're just kind of like. - You're a nipple baby. - Well, I feel like I'm feeling like that's basically what I'm saying. - I feel like I can see Carden's a nipple baby. - That's the new headline. (laughs) - You don't actually feel it. Like, okay, you fit. - No, I feel like I have, I do feel like I have like an advantage of seeing it. Like, it's possible. - To dream, access to dream. - And also supportive parents that were like, you wanna be an actor? Do that, which I think is, I don't think that's like, officially what NEPO means, but I do think that's, I think that's just like an advantage, or like a privilege or something, because I think that is such a common and hard thing that young people deal with is, that it wanna be artists, is that their family is like, well, no. - 'Cause you're not gonna make any money, and it's not like hard, or they're not wrong. - Right. - But the fact that my parents were like, you wanna do that? Go do that, that I think that was very-- - But you went to school for it, right? Where did you go? - I went to school in Oregon, which is-- - Where yours is? - Yeah, that's right, that's right, good job, good job. - Yeah. (laughing) - Like, you know where that is on the map? It's that way. - Yeah, so I went to school called Southern Oregon University, which is like a really tiny little small town. And the main thing there was that they have a huge Shakespeare festival. So it's like a theater town. - So that turned you on, the Shakespeare festival? - Yeah. - Did you-- - Shakespeare? - Yeah. - Love it. - Love it, I mean, I haven't done it in so long, but like really studied it and love it. - So it was less like comedy. - It wasn't really comedy, I mean, it's funny. Like, you know, you do a comedic play or whatever. I mean, that was, that was an interesting, I wasn't ever doing specifically comedy, but looking back, I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I always got kind of cast as like, the funny side character. - Uh-huh. - And I never, you know, so once I discovered that I loved doing comedy, it was, I was like, oh yeah, that does that up, you know? And then you did UCB, you got it. Which is in New York. - It is, yes, yes. - I never pictured in New York for some reason. - It was like, it was in Chelsea. I mean, it still is here, but the theater's moved and I think it, I think it's still in Chelsea. But the one that I came up in was in Chelsea. - So you moved to New York after College in Oregon? - Yeah. - You were like, I'm going to where the theater is? - Yes, I really was, I was like, time to be on the stage now. - Yeah. - Yeah, I was like, screw you, L.A., I was, I didn't even really have, well, I don't know how to explain this. Like, not that I didn't want to be in TV and movies, I did, but I did not see a possibility. - Okay. - That didn't make sense to me. Like, I don't know how to get there. - I know how to get on stage. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe that's something with college. Like, I didn't take any classes, we didn't have any classes that were like, here's how you act for the camera or how you like, get an agent or any of that stuff. It was like, here's how you get on stage. So I knew how to do that. - So you knew how to do it, and you did it. - I did it like in a roundabout way. Like, you know, you come to New York and you're like, Broadway baby, and then they're like, get to the back of the line. - Right. - So then I found UCB, which is a comedy theater that was founded by like Amy Poler amongst others. - Oh yeah. - And then I just, I saw a show there and I was like, this is it, which is just improv and sketch comedy. And then I was, I mean, you know, like a lot of your favorite, like comedy actors came from there. - So but when you do it for the first time, I feel like it's probably so scary. - It is. - Improv. - Totally, 'cause it's like a situation and then. - It's like literally no, you know, it's such a funny thing because it's like so much training for not, I don't mean for nothing. It's so much training that is so, so, so helpful. But it's like not what you would think, where you're not like memorizing lines or whatever. It's like so much training and then you get up on stage and they're like, and there's no script and no, like you have nothing. - Yeah. - But it's the training is like to be able to listen and react and like, you know, like come up with stories and characters and scenarios and stuff like that. - So UCB, do you like just join? Do you get in? - How does it work? - It was super competitive. It was like, you would take a class. You would, you'd have to get to a certain level of class before you could audition and then you audition and so many people audition. The first time I audition, I did not get. Actually, the first time I auditioned, I got a call back. Now I was like, oh my god, I must be good at this. I must be like right on, I'm next. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then the second time I audition, didn't even get a call back. And then the third time I audition, I finally got on, but it was like that. It was very competitive and like too many people for how few spots there were like on the stage. - And then you're like a, a trout, do you do the shows? - There's like, nightly shows at the theater. But then also there was like a touring company, which is what I was a goal of mine. And I finally got on and that's where I became really close with my now brother-in-law. 'Cause we were, he came up at UCB too and we would like travel together. And I remember even one tour. I don't remember where we were, it doesn't matter. Some state in this country. And he was like driving a car to like whatever college we were about to do a show at. And he was like, Dersi. How did you feel of it as your sister out on a date? And I was like, I think that's a great idea. - And now they have two kids and that's crazy. - That's crazy. - I'm saying, when does the TV stuff come up? - So that, so like 11 years in New York of just grinding ass, getting paid zero dollars, making money, babysitting, tempering, wait, wait, wait, wait. - All right, you nannyed for Bill Hader's kids. - Yeah, yeah. You said that right. So many people say you nannyed for Bill Hader. And I'm like, well, I nannyed for his kids. - Right. - 'Cause you can see a moment where they're like, how old are you, or how young is he? - Oh my God. - But yes, yeah. So babysitting, you know, just all this sort of typical actor jobs. - Was he doing stuff then? - He was on SNL. - He was on a, and you weren't aware, obviously. - Was SNL a dream? - It was a dream. It was like, it was almost like too much of a dream. - Yeah. - So it was like, I can't even look at it. - Oh, you didn't ever audition? - I never did. - Really? - Which is so, you know, like at the time every year, not auditioning, or not trying. I would, it was, I could justify it so easily. - Right. - And now looking back, I'm like, you were scared. - Yeah. - You were scared. If you didn't get it, your dreams would be shattered. And you know what I mean? It's like, yeah. - Really like a self-sabotage thing. - Or like, not a self-sabotage thing. - It's racist. - It's racist. - Yeah, yeah, that's true. - Yeah. - That's true. - But it's true. - Yeah. - So like, hindsight is 2020 and you look back and you're like. - Yeah, totally. It's so funny when you see it and you're like, "Oh!" - Yeah. - That's what that was. - I was like, that's so dumb. And so like with that, I could even try, you know what I mean? You're like, you wanted it so bad. - You were intense. - Yeah. - So when you were nannying for Bill Hader's kids. - It's, I mean, babysitting. - Yeah. - You weren't a full-time nanny. - I was, yeah. - Who has full-time nanny? - Yeah. - It's his. Now I ruined it. You were his, you were Bill, so you were, wow. - Yeah. - Okay. - Years and years, yeah. Yeah. It was great. It was great. I love those girls. Like show them that you're a performer? - I didn't. - Never? - No, I didn't. Like, you know, he knew that I, he knew that I did improv. We just never really talked about it. We like kept it profess. - Yeah. - And then, and then there's a particular show at UCB that has, it's called Ascat. It's just like their, their biggest show where they have, they have a celebrity guest. Come on. And they, the audience gives them a suggestion and they tell a story. And then the improvisers do improv based on their story. So he was doing that one night and I was in the cast. - Oh my God. - And that was like kind of a great night. - Yeah. - Where you sort of like, what the hell? - Yeah. - It was great. It was really sweet. - And then years later, you did, you did a Barry. - Which is great. Yeah, he's, and now you carry his wife at the time and those girls are like really, like kind of family. To, you know, they, they really, with my husband too, where we, I talked to the girls like last week. - Stop. - Yeah. - That is so special. - I know, it's really special. They like mean so much to me. They're my night. - So how many years, how long ago was this? - Like, like, 10, no more. It's like 16, 17. - That is very sweet. I do not talk to my nanny as soon as 17 years ago. - I know. We just sort of like, 'cause you, yeah. But we just sort of stayed in each other's lives. - That's right. - And that is just like family-ish. - Right. - Yeah. I love that so much. - I know, it's really, it's so, it's special especially to me because I love them. - So much. And it's nice that I'm like, still a part of the life. - Yeah. - And you're like, and I told that story again. - Yeah. - Sorry to make you do that. - No, that's okay. I'm sure you're gonna ask that a lot. - I mean, it is like, it's like a nugget. - It's kind of like what? - It's a nugget. - Yeah. - It's a nugget. - We'll be right back after the break. (upbeat music) - I know that like I see people go through phases in life and evolve. It's like a girl that once used to wear heavy makeup doesn't anymore vice versa. Or like going for this aesthetic, going for this aesthetic. Guess what I am? I'm just that girl. Okay, self loving myself today. But I mean, I've always not been that into my lot of makeup and I've always liked minimalist beauty, clean beauty. 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Where have you said something else? I'm like, okay, no, that yeah, I'm so glad you like it. I loved it. Great. So much that it was like my show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like a my show. Great. I love this. And like my time of like even though something sad happens, but it's like the feel good of the friendships and the women. I think yeah, there is some sadness, but it's not like it's not like devastating. Right. It's I don't know. Is there is sadness for sure, but it is like feel good. It's very cozy and so cozy. So cozy. And by the way, I was like, because we met that one time for five minutes, it did make me feel I was like so happy for you as a person that like huge cast, great women all around. But like Brooks character was kind of getting the most love. Oh, thanks. Like I feel like everyone was so invested in her journey. I mean, I'm invested in her journey. Yeah. She's like you are rooting for her. Right. I felt that way when I read the book, too. I was just like, I want the best for this under red listened. I think Jen Garner should rerecord that book. Oh, yeah. She's that time. She's like Darcy shut up. Wait, so did you read it before you saw this? I got it was simultaneous. Really? I could I think I could say that word smoother. I'm so bad at that. I'm all-tainey. It was I was the last person cast by like a mile. I was cast like days before they started shooting because they couldn't find the person. Yeah. And so so when I started auditioning, you know, there's well, whatever. I didn't read start reading it until I got the part because I think if I had started reading it, well, I was auditioning, it would have been like heartbreaking then to not get it. Correct. So the second I got it, I'm like reading it listening to it. I'm reading it page just like word, word, word, word, word, like entering word, word, word, word, turning a page, like starting another word, like folding over a little page, closing the book, putting it on my nightstand, waking up, like reading another page. Yeah, okay. And but I was but once I got it, they started like sending me scripts. So I'm reading the scripts and the book at the same time. And they're just different enough, not big, huge differences, but just different enough that it was like very confusing. And I was like making mistakes. You're like, maybe I should stop. Yes, listen, yes. But I like couldn't really, I felt like I needed the whole picture. But there was like a few times that I would like reference it in like talking about the character, something that that they'd have to be like, oh, no, that happens in the book, not in the show. And I'm like, right. Yes, for sure. You're like, but maybe. Oh, what if? Yeah. No, I'm glad to hear you say that. I and I know yeah, there is just something about Brooke where you're just like, come on, like, like, you're so close. Yeah. But so far away. Like, like, you want, you just want to kind of help her out and she can't quite see what like everyone else can see. And she's trying so hard. And she's so insecure. And she's like doing too much. And it's pushing people away. And when she can kind of like let that go a little bit is when it starts to feel more like she's one of the group. Well, you not only like had her stuff, you were also so pivotal in the other stuff, which you know what I mean? I felt so lucky about that. That's so fun. Yeah. Yeah. You like are the one to find out. Totally. It is, it is like, it did feel like like, I want to say an honor. I don't really know how to explain it where it was like those kind of things like that I, what do I do I give away? What do I know? But like, I mean, you guys, if you haven't watched it, you know what I mean? You can really watch it right now. Like, you can watch it right now and it goes by way too quick. I know what you mean. Right? How many episodes are episodes? Let's do more. It felt quite curved by the way. And you're doing more and we are doing more.
I'm so excited. - I'm so excited. - Season two is a coming. - I gotta say, season two's are like so rare these days. - Do you feel that way? - Yes, I do. And also like, I think I was very lucky with the first few things I did being good place in Barry and Broad City that like had a season after season after season. So I think I kinda got used to that a little bit. And then did League of the Roan, which I loved so much, and I got canceled off the first season. I was like, oh, this is the north. - This is the way it is, yeah. - And actors, I feel like are speaking out about that more now. Have you noticed that? - Yeah, I have. - Where actors are posting about their show - Kinda like canceled and being kind of like, fuck. - Yeah. - Like, fuck you. - I think it's just, I think it's, am I correct me if I'm wrong? But I feel like there's more shows. More, let's say channels, streamers. - Yeah. - That are, am I right about this? It's like they're trying more things, but there's like fear involved. So they're like, cutting things, they're canceling things before they really get a chance to like find their footing. And I think the real argument is like, look back on so many of your favorite shows from the past. The first season was probably not their best season. And also, by the way, so many shows, like even new girl, with your buddy Jake Johnson. It wasn't doing well when it was on. - Right, Parks and Rec is another one. Like something that went on to be like, a cult scene. - A cult scene, yeah. - I mean, not that, you know, they can afford, I guess, to give every show, but I think it's probably more about like, the just looking at like the numbers or their ratings or whatever. But fuck that. Five star weeks. - Yeah, exactly. - Whatever it is, works for us, works both ways for us. I am just like, let me just enjoy this moment because it can be rare, you know. - You know, when you're going back. - I do. We're leaving on beep, beep, on low-speed. - Stop, stop, is it cool? Is it soon? - Not as soon as I want, but it's soon. But I'm like, let's go tomorrow. - What is it like, 2029, really? - No, no, no. - No, no. - What? - No. - Okay. - I had to say it because I'm like, what year is it, right? - Yeah, I got you, I got you. - Yeah, it'll be, it'll be here as soon as ASAP. We're all just getting older by the day. - Have you read the scripts? - No, but I hear, I've heard some great ideas. - But it's not gonna be from the book. - Right, 'cause the book is no book. - So now Becca Brunstetter, who's the showrunner and writer of the show. - Yeah. - And I don't know, actually, I don't know, Ellen Hildbrand, who writes the books. I don't know how much they're taught. Ellen is very involved and amazing. And she's like so involved in the show and also so hands off in such a fucking cool way, where I could see another author kind of being like, - I want this to go kind of way. - I want it to be my way or the highway. She's like, whatever's best for the screen, like do your thing. It's been really cool. - That is really cool. - So whatever, yeah, Becca and her amazing writers will come up with, I've heard some ideas, everything golden. - Everything I'm like, let's go now. - Also because like, more Brooke. - More for me, I'm like, yeah. - You're like, let's go. - Yeah, she has a good story. - Yeah, yeah, totally. - I mean, she really does. I feel like everyone that I've talked about the show was like, yeah, it was such a good show and beautiful and in-tucket, but also Brooke's story and coming out and all of that, did you get massively reached out to about this? - Yeah, it's nice. It's so nice, you know, it is like, it is, we don't see this so much. We're seeing it more and more in film and in TV, but like, someone in like middle age, whoo, what a thing to say, but that's what it is. You know, like coming out. - Right. - That they're not like 20 or even 30. - Right. - And I don't know, it's like, or someone that's a mom married. It's, and that it's not like scandalous or horrific. It's kind of just beautiful and amazing. And, you know, like, she's figuring out who she is and finding herself and her friends are 100% not just supportive, but they're like, we see it before you do. Like, A, we see it and B, what I thought was lovely was like, it's not even like, they, it wasn't even a thing. - I know. - It was like, yeah, so let's go do it. Like it wasn't a, let's sit down and talk about this and see where you're at and it was like, okay, there. - Totally, there's like a moment where we're all having dinner at this Nantucket restaurant called Crew, which was actually shot in LA, because we shot a lot of things in LA and then went to Nantucket and it's funny. If you know Nantucket, like all of your followers do, to know like, which is which. I'll tell you later, behind the scenes. - Tell me later. And also why? - I guess because we shot for three months in LA, because it's like, universal and you have the studio right there and I'm sure it's like a money thing. - Yeah. - I'm sure it's so expensive to shoot in Nantucket. - Right. - But did you shoot, but you shot there a center. - For a month, yeah. - For a month. - So like everything outdoor was Nantucket. - So did you live in Nantucket for a month? - Yeah. - It was so fun. - Was it a join-touse like, and like, and when? - It was, it was like, we lived in, yeah, almost like a condo thing where we were like next door to each other. It was so fun. - That does sound so fun. - We were working a lot. I know I just was talking about something. I'll get back to it later. - Yeah, get back to the crew. - Yeah, good job. - The crew dinner. - Good job. - Okay, I'll just say it really quick. There's just a moment in the crew dinner where, where Brooke is sort of like lightly spinning out like, like, well, I'm not gay. Like I'm not, I couldn't be bisexual. She's just like, what are you talking about? And then Hollis, Jennifer's character is just like, why not? It's just so simple. Just like, well, why not? - Right. - She like, doesn't really have an answer for that. Or she can't really have an answer for that. But I just thought that was like a lovely little, yeah, instead of being like, well, let's unpack this. - Right. - So I do first start, yeah, yeah. Okay, so now I'm, yeah, we'll live together. Oh yeah, so getting to shoot on location like this in like a vacation town is so fun. It's also a little bit confusing because you're like, I'm on vacation, but I have to like, wake up at five in the morning to go work. - Yeah. - But when we would have, not that we had like days off, but we would, I guess I'm just, we ate at restaurants and we like, drank a little bit and we like, did karaoke one night and there's things that you do on location that you would never do when you're all like shooting an L.A. - And I like, when you all go back to your home. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. - It's really like such a joyful, exciting part of this. Or exciting is maybe the right word, but just like, what a pleasure. - And you said you had no bad days. - No bad days. - No bad days. - That's so true and rare. - No bad days. Every day on that job was like a pleasure, delightful. - I. - Even when we'd have to like cry and, you know, like even when the scenes were heavy, it still was fun and we were like, you know? No bad days for sure. It was great. That's why I'm just like, get me back there. - And I saw that, are you the one that would always take pics? - Yes, they always make fun of me about that because why you'd pull out your camera. - I'd probably be like, we're all together. Let's take a picture and they're like, okay. And then afterwards they'd be like, we're glad you did that. - Really? That's like surprising to me that you're the one. - I am the one. - Really. - I think I always have been. I am like that with my family. I'm like that with my friends. - Like you want the memories. - Yeah. - Not like, yes, totally. - Not like pote. - Like you're like. - I would say like, I was about to like make a disclaimer. Not like I'm not living in the moment, but more just like, maybe less and less as cameras are like in our phones and we're all just taking pictures all the time. But I feel like it used to be more of like an embarrassing thing to be like, hey, I'm gonna take a picture. And the worst thing is about the right word. - I got what you're saying. - In erupting. - Yeah. - Or like, yeah. Anyway, I just, I'm always like, I'm not gonna regret this. - We want to remember this. - Yeah. - And were you friends with any of the girls before? - None of us knew each other at all. - None of you. - Other than Jen and Judy. - Right. - From 13, going on 30. - But none of us had ever worked together. I had never met any of them. - Wow. - Which I think again is rare. Usually like. - You would cross paths. - Yeah, you'd cross paths. But this was just a cast of women that I was like, deep fans of. - Were you intimidated by Chloe? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - She's like super cool. - She's just like the definition of cool. - Yeah. - She like creates cool. - Yeah. - And then she is like, you know, she just like lets, she just like lets you in and you feel really special. - You feel, you feel cool. - Yeah. You're like, you, like we like went like vintage shopping one day. And I was like, I did it. I like reached the pinnacle of life of literal life. I know there was a scene where she gives Jennifer Garner the cigarette. I just rewatched that because it's so, it's so cute. - It's so cute. And you're like, this is real life. - Yeah, you know what I mean? - Which I'm like, no, no, no. - Right. - Which is do it. - Right. - Yeah, they're all so great. And it was just like, I think if there was something especially special about the five of us not knowing each other. And coming in at like the same, I don't know, it was like a clean slate or same level. Something where we were all, we were all getting to know each other at the same rate. And especially in the beginning, there were so many scenes where it was the five of us all together. And that means that you're spending the day together. But it's not just about like shooting the scene. That means you're like eating lunch together. You're in the seats together. You're like, you're like in your little room together. There's just, you're spending the day together. And those days, I really think about like how quickly we were all bonding and sort of like let our guards down together and just like went for it. - And we got super close. - Yeah. - With Reggie. - Reg. - And it's our calling her all these different names. - Gina doesn't work. - No. - Hall. I made me so happy because I wasn't even thinking about a second season. 'Cause I was like, this is the book. We take what we can get. - Right. - You know what I mean? And then when I saw the announcement, it's so funny I feel
like we kind of were the same way where we kind of went into it being like maybe a limited series. Maybe it's just the book. Let's just enjoy it and the further into what we got, we were like, sure, I would love to do this again with you guys. Like we started like coming up with ideas of like what a second season could be. Like, well, what if this character, you know, like I don't think that is a typical thing that happens, but we were like trying to try and the thing because we loved it so much. It really was, it was on the last day of shooting. We were in Nantucket. Why did we get so drunk? What was that? I guess we were just like, we went out to dinner a kind of impromptu cast dinner with like, meaning it wasn't planned. It was just like, we have the night free. It was the five of us, Tim the elephant, Harlow and West, the ones who, the two that play the daughters. And then my husband, even though he was like, I cannot come and and Jen was like, you have to come. But anyway, he just because he's like, I'm not in the cast. But we had this like really nice, wonderful dinner. We ate a lot and we drank a lot. And then we all like started doing speeches. And there were like tears and it really was so genuine. And nobody was like, and now we're gonna do speeches. We just sort of started doing that. Speeches is maybe the wrong word, but like talking about what this has meant to us. And it just kind of hit a certain spot for everybody that was like very special and unique. And especially from all these professional women that have been in so many things. Everybody's saying like, this has something, something magical. Yeah, it really did. Yeah. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. Everyone connected with it so much. Did you, when you read Brooks like character and like scenes, were you like, did you feel her? You just said it. That is exact. It's like, when I read the first like little script that I got a few pages, whatever the scene was, I was like, Oh, I know her. That's it. I was like, I know her. Yeah. Like I don't even, there's like, I don't need to research or whatever. Like I know her. She's so all the quirks and stuff. Is that how they describe her in the book? Yeah. Like you did it to the like, you know, just the way you would approach overthinking before you talk. And like, I mean, I think so. I think so. I mean, to me, that's just like, you know, was the kind of coming out scene, the most emotional memorable one. Is which coming out scene? Like the one, like the one with my husband or the one like, kind of with the girls, right? I think the one that was like maybe the toughest or the one that I had to kind of prepare for the most was the one where my, my like, dumb husband, amazingly played by Rob Hubel, who has not done at all, comes to like, he like crashes the party. And I have to get him out of there. And we have this kind of big emotional, not breakup scene, but not not breakup scene. Yeah. And I just want to like, when all the girls came to my aid, you know, like came, like, back to me up in such a sweet way. And, and I'm sort of like finally being honest with him. And like, saying my truth. And I think I just wanted that scene to be real and honest. And like, you know, I just wanted, the stakes were high. And I wanted, you know, sometimes you just put pressure on yourself to like deliver. And I just felt them with me so much. Jens, like holding my hand. It really was like also like, even just the camera, like the, I don't know, the way the way this cast and crew like worked together was beautiful. I felt like I was like holding hands with the camera. That makes sense. Okay. The craft. Yeah. The craft. The craft. Tell me, is there a group chat for your girls? Yeah. Is it called vibes our weekend? It is. We should change it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What should we change? Like how you just change it without telling everybody? They would be like, so like Brooks is bitches. Brooks is bitches. Brooks is bitches. Yeah. What did I just do recently? Oh my god. For our premiere, I got a pedicure. Yeah. And a spray tan. All right. We had like a week of, or many days of like, press together, where we were kind of like together during the days, whatever. Like we, we, it was, it was a group press situation. So we were all together all the time. Anyway, one night after press, I like went, oh, I'm got a pedicure and a spray tan. And then my husband, I watch in the pit on the couch. And I'm like, trying to just sort of like let my spray tan chill. And okay, here, oh god, it's so stupid. I spilled tea on myself so that it like smeared my spray tan completely all over my chest. And then like when I got up, I smudged my, my pedicure. So I'm like, white chested smudged red pedicure. And I like fixed it all or whatever, whatever. And I like texted the girls that I did that. And they were like, you are broke. You are broke. You are Brooks is. Well, I was going to ask like, first of all, Reggie has a Russian gel pedicure. Gorgeous. I'm telling you, everyone's fancy out here. And like, here I am getting the regular pedicure waiting for it to dry for it to smudge. Yeah, it's going to smudge people. It's going to smudge. It doesn't ever dry. It doesn't ever. Doesn't ever dry hours later hours later than you've done something. Yes. I believe it or not, my last pedicure experience, I went, waited the 10 minutes, even paid for the massage. Just to kind of add the time. Yeah, finished the 10 minute massage, walk home. I fucking see like a smudge in a chip. Come on. I go back because they have a 24 hour. Nice. Oh, that's great. I go back. I think the next morning. And I'm like, well, they do it. Guess what? I look two days later. It happened again. Okay. I have not a theory, but like, what about this? What if getting a pedicure in a manicure is like so perfect? It, you like, looks so perfect, like just like a perfect little doll that getting like a little smudge or whatever kind of like makes it real. Like makes it your own. You're like a human being. You're not like a perfect facade. But then it's like what I do in the first place. Yeah. Okay. I quit manicures. I'm over it. You know what? I couldn't live that life. I'm sort of over manicures too. It's a, by the way, it's kind of trending. Okay. Okay. It's a thing now. Basically, like even this is almost two pink for me. I basically like, I want clear or yeah. Okay. It's trending. Babe, so trending. It's like not cool to do what she's doing. I'm sorry, Reg. I'm just saying. But it looks really good. She's dying to know about hand made tale. What do you want? Because you were on season three. I think four, or wait, wait, would you say six? Yeah. Well, how many seasons were there? Six? Yeah. I was on season six. I was on the last season. I have to stop watching it. I was pregnant when I, when I watched it. It was making me very anxious. This is a very common story. Really? Basically, like people loved the, loved the show. So most amazing show wins all the wars every success with it. And then it like so many people were like, I love that show so much. And then I had to stop watching because we're like too real. Yeah. But the world changed and things got too real. So I always recommend people go back and watch it because it is so good. Yeah. It's really like brilliant. It is. It's brilliant. The acting is insane. It's you're in the last season, which is the final season. Final season. What did you play? Well, I played. Okay. Do you remember the ants, the ons? Yes. Okay. So like and out and like you weren't in the end. I wasn't on. But can I spoil something? Yeah. I'm like undercover. You're good. You're good. You're a good guy on. Yes. And I'm here to save the girl. Sob. And I got to kill some people. Sob. That sounds great. It was so great. That sounds amazing. And it's also so trippy to like love a show and then get to be on it. You were a fan of the show before. In fact, like not just that I loved it, but as an actor, I spent so much time being like, what would it be like to be on that show? Also because I think handmaids in the good place maybe started at the same time. So I would think of like my day on the good place. And I'd be like, that was lovely. What are they going through? Yeah. Like that was an easy fun day. Yeah. We're giggling. And then I'm like, I wonder what it's like to be like running through the forest, like screaming and crying. And then you and then it came across your desk. Yeah. It came across my desk. And I said yes before I even knew what the character was. I mean, I mean, I mean, I love it. So you didn't even have to audition for it. Oh, okay. Oh, I guess not. I say that like, I probably have had like 10 auditions in the last like month. I'm an audition girl. But occasionally an offer comes in. But this was also an offer for something that isn't like comedic. Yeah. Yes. That's it. Which I think is cool. That is very cool. Of them to see that. To like see that you're. Yeah. Now I have to watch your your stuff. Yeah. It's I mean, watch it all. I mean, for that city, you've done so many amazing things. I love raw city. And it brought me back like you. The fact that you were the spin. Like you were doing it with Paul. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. It is crazy. He's having so much sex. I know. I know you said so much sex. Probably as him is whoever like we made an offer. By the way, they are on the chair. Yeah. Get it on. Those are two of my best friends from like UCB days. Oh, those are people I like came up with when you said like how do you how did you start or whatever. Yeah. You would take classes and Paul was in my second class. Wait, that's crazy. Are you guys in touch? Oh, my God. We we like see each other all the time. We like lived together back then. No, like when I got the good place. Oh, when you got the good place. Yeah. My God, you guys need to do something again. No, we should. We mean to. You know, we we plan to. But they've been a little busy. Hacks has been right. Yeah. Hacks has been hacked. And nobody wants to see. We're also in it. Yeah. With KB. I think you're early. I love her. And I feel like she, she had all of her people there with her like, Jackie Tone, you she like makes it that she makes it that she makes it that she's like.
I mean, KB is like so amazing and wants to be around people she loves and makes it happen. She's so focused and determined and good at like getting, it's not even like getting what she wants. It's like, she just like makes things happen in a way that you're like, it's, she's so impressive. So she literally was like, can you do this role next week? Yeah. Yeah. Kind of, exactly. She's like, type A of like, but also taking care of everybody. She's like, gets an idea and she's like, oh, that'll work. Okay. I'll make that happen. You know. Yeah. And she does. Are you going to come back for season three? I mean, I should be like, watch and find out, but I'm not. I'm like, watch and find out. No. No. Okay. The game. Oh, who's most likely from the girls? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. To go skinny dipping. Why do I want to say Jen? Yeah. I think Jen. Jen's the wild one. Yeah. I think when it comes to like skinny dipping, she'd be the first one and then we'd all join in. I got it. Yeah. She also works hard in that box. And it looks so good. She's like, let me get naked. Let me get naked. Stay out all night. Chloe. Ooh. I love that. And we join, yeah. Be the group mom. Jen. Oh, yeah, Jen. I'm like, oh, me, but not me. I'm more like, gather for a picture. I'm like, I mean, maybe me because I am very like, did everybody get the email about the blah, blah, blah. Like, what time are you guys getting? What is everybody wearing to it? So maybe me. Maybe that's actually like annoying little sister. Maybe that's like broke. Yeah. Literally. Yeah. Surprise the group with an ice cream truck. Well, Jen, I mean, I'm saying this because she did it like every week. She actually did it. Truly. Wow. Cass and crew love that woman. Oh my gosh. She takes care of everything. I saw you call her an angel. Cheers. Plan. Plan the weekend. It would be her then. I'm assuming. I feel like, okay, Gemma, we had like an amazing boat trip, boat trip. A sailboat trip in Nantucket that Gemma like, made happen, took care of or the night. How is it kissing her because she is the most gorgeous. I'm like still dreaming about it. No, she's so pretty. She's the prettiest person in the world. I think I think I said that. She might be like, the first time I saw her, it was crazy, Rich Asians. And I remember being like, excuse me, face, no, no, she is so stunning. Yeah. So it was pretty great. And she's great. Yeah, she's so great. Every so great. So, yeah. She's a good man. I think she's a good vacationer and she, yeah, she like knows most type A from the group. I think that's Jen or Chloe, but I don't know if I know so well what type A means. It means like, organized. I feel like it's KB vibes. It is. Yeah. Okay, let's say KB. Just like eight. We're in there. Yeah. Type B. What are you? Do you know? Yeah, I might be that. I might be. Yeah, that's me. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. Thank you for coming. This was fun. I loved hanging out with you. I love hanging out with you. Thanks for having me. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Notskini, but not fat. Follow me on Instagram at Notskini, but not fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes, rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write a little review. If you tell me you did, I'll give you a big virtual smoocheroo. Thank you guys so much for listening, and I'll see you next Tuesday. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host, Amanda Hirsch, shares her enthusiasm for recent TV shows like *Sterling Point* and *The Five Star Weekend*, praising their characters and performances.
She highlights cultural trends and predictions using Polymarket, noting strong odds for Matt Damon, Michael J. Fox, and the movie *Don’t Say Good Luck* to gain acclaim.
Darcy Cardin, actress from *The Five Star Weekend*, joins the podcast to discuss her career, including her time in the Dominican Republic filming with Lenny Kravitz and the joy of living together during the pandemic.
A key theme explored is the contrast between influencers and actors, with guests reflecting on the challenges of being constantly visible versus the personal, demanding nature of acting.
The conversation touches on personal habits, including the host’s experience with an aura ring that supports her napping and walking, and the stigma around audiobooks versus reading.
Darcy shares her personal journey of adopting the apostrophe in her name, inspired by a music band, and discusses the emotional significance of name changes and family identity.
The hosts reflect on growing up in California, family dynamics, and how early exposure to performance arts influenced their paths in entertainment.
A recurring theme is the value of self-acceptance and minimalism—such as in beauty routines and lifestyle choices—emphasizing authenticity and personal well-being.
Summary:
Amanda Hirsch hosts a lively, conversational podcast episode celebrating recent TV shows like *Sterling Point* and *The Five Star Weekend*, highlighting their compelling characters and acting. She shares insights from cultural trends, using Polymarket data to predict award wins for performances by Matt Damon, Michael J. Fox, and the film *Don’t Say Good Luck*.
The episode features Darcy Cardin, who discusses her experience filming in the Dominican Republic and her journey of embracing the apostrophe in her name, inspired by music. Both hosts explore personal themes, including the contrast between influencers and actors, the emotional weight of personal identity, and the importance of self-care. They reflect on how minimalism in beauty and lifestyle—such as using audiobooks and simple routines—supports mental well-being.
The discussion also touches on family, career paths, and the influence of early exposure to performance arts. With humor, honesty, and warmth, the conversation blends entertainment, personal growth, and self-acceptance, emphasizing authenticity and everyday joy as central to a fulfilling life.
FAQs
The podcast is hosted by Amanda Hirsch, and its main theme revolves around casual, friend-like conversations about pop culture, TV shows, movies, and lifestyle trends.
Amanda recently finished watching 'Sterling Point' and loved it because of its strong character development and outstanding acting, calling it more impactful than other shows she's watched.
Amanda is excited about 'Don't Say Good Luck' featuring Sunny Sandler and Max Greenfield, believing it has great potential. However, she notes that only 3% of traders on Polymarket think it will be the top US Netflix movie this week.
Polymarket data suggests Matt Damon is highly likely to win best actor, Michael J. Fox is expected to win for outstanding guest actor in a comedy series, and there's strong support for the movie 'The Odyssey' winning best movie of the year.
Brooke is one of the most beloved characters in 'The Five Star Weekend,' with her story arc and development being widely praised by fans, and her portrayal by Darcy Cardin is frequently highlighted.
Darcy notes that actors often face intense pressure and demands in their roles, while influencers may seem more spontaneous, but both require significant personal and professional dedication.
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