Crypto, Stocks, and Liquidity: The Truth They Won't Tell You | Drinks With Raoul Pal - September 3, 2026
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The transcript is an episode of "Drinks with Raoul," filmed in Napa Valley, where the host mixes wine tasting, snack criticism, and macro market analysis. He mocks Napa Valley wines as overpriced, sweet, high-alcohol products while praising a Schramsberg sparkling wine and simple European snacks over processed American junk food. A major announcement is the launch of Raoulpal.ai, a free AI mentor trained on his 35 years of macro thinking, interviews, and written work, designed to help users think through markets using his Everything Code framework. In a simulated interview, the AI discusses Napa wine, admits the "banana zone" call was early due to extended government debt duration and AI absorbing liquidity, and explains asset allocation along the risk curve. The host then reviews numerous charts covering demographics, debt-to-GDP, liquidity, interest payments, productivity, financial conditions, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Zcash, Solana, Sui, Tesla, Circle, SpaceX, Robinhood, gold, bonds, and the dollar. His conclusions remain bullish on long-term crypto and Nasdaq exposure, warning that short time horizons cause investors to miss the biggest opportunities. He promotes his book "The Everything Code" and the Real Vision platform throughout.
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Bet you fucking missed me welcome to the greatest show in the history of the internet drinks with Raoul Cheers
I've missed this it's always good fun looking at myself and a camera on a computer screen and
Getting shit-faced. It's the slightly weirdest experience in the world, but there we go. You're all with me with it
Hopefully you've got a drink
We will be addressing your philistine behavior yet again. I've been educating you trying to educate you and I fail
I just don't know what to do with you lot, but we're gonna try so well
I'm enjoying a nice glass of a Napa Valley method
traditional
Rosé sort of champagne ish vintage 2022 but Schramsberg we've had Schramsberg on the show before fantastic stuff really really
excellent
Sparkling wine here from Napa Valley, and that's where I'm today in the stunning Napa Valley come to sunny, California
They said the Sun always shines in California
I've got a fucking open fire going and it's been cloudy in fog and in rain for the last five days
So they lied to me about that as well
so
Napa Valley
Obviously what Americans think is the home of great wine
How I think of it is probably the home of the world's most overpriced wine
Created for people with no taste by people with too much money. That's generally Napa Valley in a nutshell
But it is absolutely gorgeous and I know one of our
RV IP members at real vision has the state here in Napa Valley. So obviously your wines amazing the rest is swill
And it's fucking sweet as well. There's so much alcohol in it. I don't know how they do it. It's like port
It's just
Fifteen percent alcohol in the red wine why?
Anyway, that's part of the story. So before we get going I need to
Have a I guess
I'm not very good at these sponsorship readouts, but the sponsorship readout from our partner is
My book the everything code is now on pre-order by the fucking book. Thank you. Anyway back to the programming
um, okay, so
Napa Valley
Napa Valley is probably one of the most civilized places in America
If you put your fingers in your ears don't listen to anybody it could be Spain
You've actually got a great selection of food and wine here. Even the fucking supermarket is epic
And it's a local little supermarket nothing fancy, but it's kind of got them all the boutique foods all of that kind of stuff
I haven't got a lot of boutique foods with me today. I've got some special food
So one of the things I love doing is cooking
And blondie and I you know, we'll make breakfast and you know, I will often do
Find some great sourdough bread slice it toast it drizzle some extra virgin olive oil some Maldon sea salt
slice some really fresh of those
kind of heritage tomatoes
And then drizzle a bit more olive oil maybe sort of sprinkle of oregano
Maybe some basil leaves over the top crunchy delicious soft sweet of the tomato and when blondie makes breakfast
She brings
Captain fucking crunch
Captain crunches crunch berries
Yeah, I don't know what to say either this fucker these people have me exasperated
So when we look at the ingredients of Captain Crunch
We look at why Americans are the 47th longest-living people in the world yet are the richest
So here we go corn flour sugar
and
Oh flower that's rule coconut oil palm oil salt molasses
Do you get the thing this sugar thing
Americans put fucking sugar in everything they put sugar in salts. Well, they do place you in everything and just to sweeten it up
sodium citrate red
40 malic acid and then there's a list of like 50 different color in its
Thymine monotritate blah blah blah blah blah blah
That's nutrition. Isn't that lovely doesn't it make you feel special in the morning and it comes in all of those colors, too
The other thing that we look at is, you know, I am from the civilized continent of Europe
where we do things slightly differently and so
I've talked about this before Spain makes the best
potato chips or crisps or
In the world this is one you can buy in the US
You can buy on Amazon Jose Andres. I think I've featured on the show also can do these the entire list of ingredients is potatoes
extra-virgin olive oil and salt
Not too thick like the fucking kettle crisps which are revolting it'll give you a heart attack and not like processed oils like
Lays, this is just a whole different game. You've got the potato in us
the clean salt and
the olive oil just gives it a richness so
That's my version of that crunch. You need to have a crunch when you're having a drink. You need something a bit crunchier
the eaten packet
The eaten packet of
Snack factory pretzel crisps Buffalo wing deli style rethink your pretzel baked bold and spicy
So I thought I'd check out a pretzel because the pretzel should be just sort of
flour and water and maybe very yeast or something
So let's have a look what this one has so enriched flour wheat flour niacin blah blah blah
thymine mono trade robe ribofloin
Flavin can't even pronounce it folic acid sugar
It's a salty snack. It's got fucking sugar and what's wrong with you people?
soybean oil salt tapioca malt syrup and
The fuck is that?
malt extract whey
Monosodium glutamate sodium something something cam pepper. Oh, there's a natural ingredient
Dextrose modified cornstarch
Modified one and how many starches do you need in one fucking thing?
citric acid dye
sodium inocinate
disodium
Gwyantate
paprika extract
Canola oil again and soda
Potato olive oil salt
I'm guessing 33 ingredients
This is why you die young stop doing it. They're like Brian Johnson now. Like I'm like, I'm great
Like here's me with a glass of fucking champagne vaping away, right? I've not a baby yet
And managed to stop that yeah, I'm 58 years old I'm still vaping what's the matter with me?
Although my mother gave up smoking when she was like 70 something
Actually when she came to Cayman over kovat, she's now 80
- and she stopped vaping last year
So there's hope for me. Yeah, she's strong as an ox northern Dutch amazing
The other thing I've got is mine I've got a couple of other crunchy snacks to go with my Schramsberg
We're gonna go into a white wine shortly as well before we get into all the other stuff. I've got a very special guest coming
That I think you're gonna love I love I really love him. It's like probably the best guest I think in the world
So I'm really excited to have that
and then we've got
Yeah, we got more wine and then charts and
Alpha because I know you guys come actually you come for the charts, but stay for the insults and
You deserve a lot of fucking insults that much I can say so the next snack I've got is the only thing I can thank
Mexico for apart from
Just this is a tequila tequila pretty decent. But these aren't these and I get them in Spain a lot as well. These are these large
Cornuts that are fried. It's a very unhealthy
But unlike all Mexican food Mexican food is basically
Slob wrapped in a soft slop wrap and it's it's literally the least textured food on earth
It's baby food for adults at scale. And so it's the only thing that's crunchy
Are
Tacos which then people cover with sort of vomit and call them nachos and then it comes soggy
Anyway, or these and these as you know, I like a bit of crunch
Well-class crunch you need that you got soft wine your palate salty crunchy snack
works perfectly
Cheers, so what have you guys got?
You guys drinking beer or wine?
Okay
bus balls
That's why we are today is that it's a buzz balls kind of day I
Remember when I did the buzz balls tasting that stuff is fucking toxic. What's wrong with you people?
It really is some of the worst thing I've ever had and I will have it again
Obviously because it's a lot of fun because it's so bad. I finally my other little snack here today
I did I've got a selection of cheeses as well, but I'm not that hungry
But corner songs
Fantastic. These are so good. I think I've had them again on the show as well. So these are the French ones may
and
they are
What's great is you've got oil from the crisps and
and the corn nuts, or whatever you call them.
I don't know the Spanish name for them.
And these give it that vinegary cleanness
that cleanses your palate.
Very typical in Spain, France, Italy,
to have that kind of balance of flavors.
Balances your palates out.
That's really good.
I said it before.
I think I did it at Blondie's house in Texas,
Schramsburg.
It's great.
So we're going to go.
I did a wine tour.
I put a picture up on X to a vineyard called Ovid.
And why I wanted to go to Ovid is because it's not,
I went to one of the big commercial ones as well.
And it's like, yeah, just put sugar in a bunch of grapes,
get the alcohol to 15%, ship it out the door,
and charge 100 fucking bucks for it.
It's just not good.
I know that's really, people don't like that.
Although I did go to the French Laundry last Sunday
and had a 19.
73 Imperial Grand Reserva Rioja.
Um, that was fucking amazing.
My heart bleeds for that stuff.
That stuff is like, well, for me, the greatest wine in the world.
It's immortal.
You can't kill it.
It just lives forever.
And it ends up tasting of silken strawberries.
Um, and it was still structured and elegant and lovely.
Um, and it's five years younger than me.
So 53 years old, bloody amazing.
But I went to one of the other.
Uh, big winemakers.
I won't mention them because, um, of connection to them, um, through random little Cayman.
But over it is this small, beautiful one with this, um, amazing kind of design
aesthetic, half barn, half contemporary architecture using old techniques like
concrete new techniques like steel.
It's just really clever.
It's a beautiful place, small, but really high end wines.
And.
But when we sat down, they said, you can meet trial white wine.
We're like really white one from here.
Cause the Chardonnay from here tastes like oil, fucking pineapples, awful stuff.
Cause it's the weather's too hot.
It needs to go to Russian river or Oregon where it cools down a bit and to get more
structure to the white one.
If it's not, it's just a mouthful of sugary syrup.
But this was quite interesting.
I've never tried this before.
So it's from Ovid it's called W11 spot four.
It's one of their experimental wines every year.
They do a different experiment, which they label.
This is their 11th white from 2024.
Now this has got more grapes than I can probably, well, I didn't know half of
these grapes, 28.3% Ribeye Gaia, 20% spinning Blanc, 18% Albarino, as you know,
Albarino, my heart, my heart goes out.
Bluff says when I hear Albarino, Vormantina, Grenache Blanc, Sauvignon Blanc, Roussanne,
Vignon, Pic-Paul Blanc, don't know half of those wines.
So they gave it to me and I'm like, Oh God, it's going to be a 15% white wine.
And it's not, it's 13%, 13 and a half percent.
And it's really kind of elegant and it's, I don't know if you can even find it.
I'm sure you can't, it's such a small vineyard and so boutique and probably it's
very expensive.
I can't remember cause I was actually shit faced when I left, I had the red wine as well.
And red wine for me, I think I told you before, now it gives me migraines.
So I have to go, I have to take allergy tablets beforehand and kind of fortify
myself, milk thistle, anything to stop myself getting a migraine.
Um, and he said, I got shit faced and I didn't have a migraine.
So the wine was obviously very good, but this is great.
It's kind of got a bit of the Sauvignon Blanc smells with it, but it also smells like, um,
um,
so the wines of Rueda in Spain or it's different and it's really clean and fresh.
It's fucking great.
Well, well done Ovid.
This is a really good American white wine, really different as well.
I can't really describe it, but it's fresh.
It's clean.
It's lovely.
And they didn't give me that.
I had to pay for it.
I left with a multiple grand bill.
I haven't bought red wine.
I've got so much red wine at home.
I can't drink.
I can't drink it because it gives me migraines unless it gets really old.
So I'm just storing most of mine, a few hundred bottles left.
So had about 800, I've drunk as many as I can and then half of them get ruined as well.
But the time you ship them through England or France to Cayman, no, to Spain and then
to Cayman, um, yeah, some of them didn't do very well.
So I'm going to bring on, cause you're probably bored of me by now and my next guest, well,
my special guest.
I think is the answer to that because I honestly think is probably the smartest person I've
ever met.
Certainly the most interesting.
So let's bring on the guest.
The guest is me.
So I am launching, I have launched a AI version of me, which is trained on 35 years of kind
of my macro thinking.
It's got every interview I've ever done on real vision.
All of the presentation I've ever done.
It's got everything I've ever written on real vision in real vision pro.
It's got my ex feed.
It's got wine stuff.
It's got all sorts of stuff in that and it's really fucking cool and it's free to use for
everybody.
Raoulpal.ai.
And I think we're going to chat with Raoul because he is literally the most interesting
person I've ever met.
And I think blondie would say probably make, well, no, she didn't actually say, um, but
let's, let's, let's call up Raoul and ask him a few questions.
Okay.
If you want some help thinking through what's going on in the markets and the economy, just
tell me what's on your mind and I'll give you my read through the everything code framework.
If it's anything to do with your portfolio real time, then this goes to the real vision
brain on real vision itself.
Raoul, what do you think of Napa Valley wines and do you think Americans just have unsophisticated
palates?
Look, Napa makes some of the most expensive, sweetest, highest alcohol fruit bombs on the
planet and they're made for the mass market.
There are a handful of genuinely elegant exceptions, Opus One among them, but as a category, it's
overpriced sugar with a marketing budget behind it.
For Americans having unsophisticated palates, that's not really how I'd frame it.
People everywhere.
They're sold and what tastes good to them.
The issue isn't the palette.
It's the marketing and what gets pushed.
My honest advice if you find yourself in Napa is to walk into any wine shop there, buy something
European instead.
We'll get far more elegance for half the money.
And if you want the full Napa Cabernet experience at home, for about four quid, buy a jar of
plum jam from the supermarket and chase it with a shot of vodka.
Okay, that's pretty good.
So, what do you think about Sutter Home?
Raoul, what do you think about Sutter Home?
I'm afraid I can't answer that one.
Sutter Home is Blondie's favorite.
She needs the pocket bottles and I would quite like to keep my job.
So, talking of fruit, whatever happened to my fucking banana zone, you probably know.
Promise me.
Fair question.
I slipped on that banana and landed flat on my face and I have said so publicly.
I thought there was another leg to go and the timing was wrong.
What did not break is the mechanism.
The refinancing cycle still sets the rhythm, liquidity still drives asset prices and things
still respond in the same order.
What changed is that governments turned their debt out.
From four years to roughly 5.4 to 5.8 and the excess liquidity that should have flowed
into crypto got hoovered up by the AI trade instead.
The banana is still coming, it's just later than I wanted and for where we actually sit
in that sequence right now, the dashboards have the live read.
So, how should I think about asset allocation at this point in the cycle?
Everything sits on a risk curve and the further out you go, the harder it responds when liquidity
goes up.
Technology and crypto are right at the far end, which is why they move like a whippet
off the leash while everything else ambles along.
What's happened lately is that excess liquidity, the bit above what the economy actually needs,
hasn't been strong enough to lift everything at once.
So what did show up, Wynton, the loudest story in the room, that rotates.
It always rotates.
I don't do allocations, but the risk curve is the thing to understand and it's all in
the everything code.
Okay.
Final question for you now.
How handsome is Raoul?
Very fucking handsome.
Thank you.
I appreciate you.
I'll talk to you later.
Good on you.
We'll talk soon.
So, as you can see, it's sort of the accurate.
It's amazingly put together.
It has, well, look, it's pretty fucking cool.
It's fun.
relpal.ai. It's free.
Go and play around with it.
it's actually trained on, I'm going to plug my book again, the everything code. The everything
code is that structural thesis about what drives markets, what drives economy and why it's all
happening, why things get more expensive every day, why it's harder and harder to keep up all
of this stuff. That book comes out in, in November, November 3rd, but the pre-orders are available.
I'd be honored if you were to buy my fucking book. So go to amazon.com. In fact, I'm going to wait
for you for a sec. Just go to Amazon. Just click on your one click order for a sec. Uh, cause I
want to see a couple of thousand orders come through so I can pretend I'm really important
and I can go to the publishers and say, look how powerful I am. Everybody just follows everything
I say. Anyway, amazon.com. I'll wait for you. Go on. Let's sit there drinking a fucking beer
and eating your Doritos. Order the book.
Raoul Pal, R-A-O-U-L Pal, the everything code. One click buy. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. So what's
next? So the everything code is that framework that actually the whole AI is built on. It's also
the framework of which I look at markets. And so as ever, it's time to get into the alpha.
Now, let's get into the alpha. So let's get into the alpha. I'm going to do something again, special for you today, because I built over the last few months
myself because I'm not only handsome, quite, I'm sorry, from the cheap seats. I'm not only handsome
and obviously incredibly intelligent and have fine cultured taste. I'm actually now a expert
programmer and developer and I can build anything. In fact, what I do is talk to, uh, to Claude with
my whisper flow and just ramble at it. And it doesn't work. It doesn't work. It doesn't work.
It does things for me. And it built my entire everything code dashboard. There's in real vision
in real vision alpha, there's the macro investing tool dashboard. Um, and then in pro there's a
whole other bunch of dashboards and they'll broken down to tons of stuff. Anyway, you'll see it when
you go over to the real vision. I'm going to be doing, by the way, questions with, uh, the rail
AI, the rail mentor is going to be, uh, on real vision on the platform. So go to app.realvision.com
it's free.
Go there, um, sign up and then you can go and see the questions when, when the audience on real
vision, who are the smartest callers audience in the world. And we'd like to hang out with them
are going to be answering, asking my AI questions. It's probably going to go horribly wrong. It'll
probably give awful mistakes and embarrass me. And then you can take snapshots and put them on
the internet to show how terrible either I am or my AI is, or both of us, because we're kind of
connected with the same person.
So anyway, app.realvision.com in a little bit, but let's go to the platform. So I'm going to try and find which screen I had this on. Okay. So, so we're going to start with, so these are the everything in code charts. Now there is hundreds of charts of all of the charts you've ever seen me or Julian Battelle talk about in the past. Um, so global liquidity,
US liquidity, the big picture charts, they're all there. And you can play around with all of these.
You can zoom them in, zoom them out, change the leads, lags, everything. So they're really cool.
It's super powerful. Nothing exists like this anywhere, but it's on real vision and it's all
part of your subscription. There's even stuff on the free tier as well. The free tier is amazing.
You get the trade ideas from the audience, uh, from the, from the community,
you get the notes from the community. You've got a whole bunch of dashboards being launched, which, which
looks up not only, um, like technical signals and stuff like that, but also scrapes all of the
actions within the communities where the focus is and finds what looks like the breakout trades,
interesting opportunities, that kind of stuff. I've also done it by sectors and all of that stuff.
There's portfolios for you to follow. There's a lot there, but anyway, without plugging real
vision too much, this is the stuff that, that, that I managed to build for everybody, but I'm
going to go to my charts because I've selected a bunch of charts. So this is the everything code
in a very quick nutshell, settle back, get yourself a drink. I'm just trying to solve
what I actually prefer. This white one is really bloody good. I'm telling you. I don't know how much
it is. Blondie, any idea? I think it was like a hundred. I think it was expensive. It was not
inexpensive says Blondie who has a Louis Vuitton habit. So that means it's very expensive. So a
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it now. So, um, okay, here we go. Firstly, it's all about demographics always has been
always will be. And the robots and the AI will be the new demographics. Once you understand that
you basically understand all of economics. Most people don't get it. Everyone's too fucking short
term. They're worried about, you know, did I catch the latest move on some piece of shit on Robinhood?
Because some guy on X talked about it for 10 minutes while he got paid in the token and then
dumped on you. It's that kind of mess. Um, I just think it's much easier to be longer term and we'll
come on to some of the charts in a bit as well. So labor force participation rate and the births
deaths. So the births deaths is what drives how many people are in the workforce, obviously. And
because of the baby boomers retiring the largest cohort that was ever born as a percentage of a
population, um, it drives everything. And that drives down the labor force participation rate.
And it's going to keep falling all the way here into 2028 or so we're going to say collapse in
the number of people in the workforce. It's going to make the unemployment data screwy because it's
going to be less people in the workforce, but unemployment will say relatively okay because
these people aren't claiming unemployment because they retired anyway. It also slows down economic
growth. And because it slows down the
economic growth, this is the, I say this every time I produce this chart, nobody's ever else
produced that, which is, and it's not exactly complicated, but people don't understand how
important it is, is the labor force participation rate is what drives debt to GDP as an aging
population slows down the trend rate of growth of GDP. It's papered over by debt. And so we know
from this that the labor force participation rate is going to fall a lot.
And therefore debt to GDP is going to rise a lot. And we can see that there seems to be no way
out. The interest payments on the debt keep going up. And that compounds the debt itself.
And then it's paid for via liquidity. They create money either at central bank level,
money printing, or via the banking channel. They're the only two people who can create money.
And this is the total liquidity narrow. So this is the total liquidity narrow. So this is basically the Treasury general accounts, the Federal Reserve
balance sheet, and in addition is the amount of Treasuries held at the banking system. So this is
not the total kind of leverage of the system. This is just them absorbing these bonds and then
creating credit from them. And you can see very, very highly correlated. And then we get the
interest payments on the debt. Why this happens is, I think the answer is, because this is broad
liquidity. So this includes all loans and leases in banks, because more lending gets hedged via
Treasuries. And so you create a demand by Treasuries by increasing lending in the private
sector, which is what one of Scott Besson's ambitions, Steve Mirren, and others is get the
banking sector to take over from the central bank as the main creator of money. And that's what it
does. And it just says, you know, we're going to have a lot of debt. We're going to have a lot of
debt. And it just says, it keeps going. The other thing we're waiting for is, I've talked about it a
lot. Scott Besson's talked about it a lot. Walsh has talked about it a lot, is we're all expecting
productivity to pick up very sharply. And productivity is basically, you know, how
productive are people in the economy? You know, what output do they produce? So it lags the
it also lags the CapEx in the AI build out and all of this stuff. So fully expecting productivity to
start increasing as CPI share of the economy of nominal GDP starts falling. This is what everybody's
waiting for, because this is the big one. This is what we got in the late 90s. This allows you to
have a benign inflation environment and strong growth. And I think it's coming. So that's the
one to set on your screen. The other thing is the CapEx. So CapEx is the one that's going to be
driving this. So CapEx is also lagging the ISM. But CapEx is the thing that's driving this. What
we've got is this amazing cycle right now, where the pointy end of the stick is, in fact, the entire
economy is based around something I call the universal code, which is a whole different thing.
But basically everything, not only the economy, but every single observable part of the universe,
biology, physics, chemistry, everything is based around output of energy per unit, output of
intelligence per unit of energy.
What we see is there's, observably in the business cycle now, we have, you can't create
energy without silicon chips.
So it all starts with that.
And what we've gone is to a crazy world now where we're now, we've gone from putting
electricity through carbon, humans, all biological life, to create intelligence.
And we've jumped substrate.
We've jumped substrate to put electricity through a fucking stand.
So silicon is the new substrate.
Silicon doesn't parallel process as fast as yet as carbon, but it's a million times
faster.
So this is the machine world we're moving into.
So silicon comes first.
The chips get exported.
They arrive in the US.
They start training models.
We start to see the increased intelligence.
You can't ramp out that intelligence until the data centers are built.
You've got massive capex to do.
You have to do the energy component, the solar, the gas, all of this stuff.
And then what happens is the output is an acceleration of intelligence.
And we've seen that.
The money that was spent three years ago, two years ago, is now producing Fable 5.1
and today, Chad GPT-6 or whatever the fuck it's called.
Which is seems pretty wild.
And that's, that is the, the, the dominoes that the output of intelligence keeps increasing
per unit of debt.
Even, even though it's built on debt, the output of intelligence keeps increasing.
And the demand for intelligence is almost infinite or is infinite.
Anyway, that's a whole different topic.
Speculative positioning right now.
Markets, um, is flat, maybe as long markets look like they absolutely want to rip.
Um, and we'll go through some of these charts.
Um, and I'm flipping.
Around because they landed in random order.
I assume versus financial conditions, financial conditions leads everything.
It is the daddy.
And why is it the daddy?
Cause it's rates and the dollar and the dollar is the big one here.
So rates and the dollar here, this is three months rates and the dollar is financial conditions.
Um, it leads ISM.
It leads it by nine months and it tells us that ISM, you know, we had that, um, this month was down a bit.
Should go up a bit and then it'll probably trade sideways a little bit into, um,
the first quarter or two of, um, 20, 27 post midterm elections.
That's the hangover you usually get from midterm elections.
But like the nineties, I don't expect a business cycle.
I don't expect, um, financial conditions to tighten dramatically.
I think it's ongoing because of the biggest CapEx build out in all history has to be financed along with the government has to be financed.
So they have to let the monetary spigots continue to flow and they haven't been flowing enough yet.
And I'll come into that in a sec.
There's also, we've had some monetary tightening, um, from financial conditions and I break it down by the four component parts.
So you've got front and easing long end.
The long end here has been squeezing.
The front end has been fine.
The dollar has been easing and the oil has been squeezing.
So of the four legs, only two are firing to say, yeah, there's tightening going on.
So that means you get wobbly markets, probably.
So you've got a lot of things going on.
You've got a lot of things going on.
but the banks haven't bought that many new treasuries and the reason being is because they've
got constraints because the yield curve is too flat the yield curve needs to steepen now what
we don't want is a bearish steepening so we don't want the long end blowing up so scott besant's
trying to peg the long end get the japanese and chinese and south koreans and everybody to buy it
and we'll come on to the charts on that in a sec and then we've got
walsh going to use pretend he's really hawkish and then knowing that the data is going to weaken
and the inflation data is going to weaken productivity data is going to pick up and
he'll find an excuse not to raise i don't think he hikes um bitcoin and its trend because it's
related to global liquidity nasdaq so bitcoin's interesting right so bitcoin is one standard
deviation oversold it got to one and a half or so so it's pretty oversold
you
only gets there very occasionally let's see if we go back um it only gets there very occasionally
so it was pretty oversold at that point now when you look at the nasdaq
the nasdaq has been over one standard deviation overbought for a long time obviously because
there's the ai boom going on but on a relative basis and i haven't got the chart here nasdaq
versus um i'm sorry bitcoin versus nasdaq is a super interesting chart because it too is in a
log trend
because bitcoin outperforms over time it got to two standard deviations oversold and it suggests
to me that that gap will close so there's hopeful for us crypto people as well even though i invest
in anything that i want to um crypto is one of those passions so that's that like i've already
run 42 minutes we've not even got to the platform i'm hopeless while we're drinking i've lost track
already
it's okay i've just got random glasses
okay more alpha let's go to some charts i'm just going to do a
run through what the whatever the fuck i think i'm want to look at um
probably the best chart in the world so i'm probably jinxing it now
is um is ccash i mean what a gorgeous chart right it's a really easy narrative as well
super easy narrative because all you have to say is oh well it should be about 10 of bitcoin is used
for privacy money and um and we don't have enough privacy in this world and that's fine makes perfect
sense i own some of this i think it does well that's actually so actually have a look at the
longer term charts
uh okay
okay
so what we did is form this kind of lovely sort of w base pattern here and we're breaking high i
mean i just don't see how this does not go a long way um obviously on log charts you don't get the
magnitude of the move so let's change it from a log chart just in case it looks any different um
fucking
even then i mean just
i mean this is a good looking base chart so i'm just going to go ahead and do a little bit of a look at this
now could you have a spike up back down yet of course nobody knows how it's going to play out but
nobody knows how it's going to play out but
nobody knows how it's going to play out but i actually really like this um
i actually really like this um
i actually really like this um bitcoin itself let's just go back to
weekly we kind of got this i'd love to
weekly we kind of got this i'd love to
weekly we kind of got this i'd love to clear this area
clear this area
clear this area and then what's this this is the av 2000
and then what's this this is the av 2000
and then what's this this is the av 2000 level
level and then i think it looks good but let's
and then i think it looks good but let's
and then i think it looks good but let's wait and see because we
wait and see because we
wait and see because we you know you can see these sideways
you know you can see these sideways
you know you can see these sideways chop fests you know you get these they
chop fests you know you get these they
chop fests you know you get these they look great and then they
look great and then they
look great and then they fall later so let's just wait and see
fall later so let's just wait and see
fall later so let's just wait and see my liquidity work the workers i look at
my liquidity work the workers i look at
my liquidity work the workers i look at suggest that it that it that the base is
suggest that it that it that the base is
suggest that it that the base is in it goes higher and that'll be the end
in it goes higher and that'll be the end
in it goes higher and that'll be the end of the four-year cycle narrative
of the four-year cycle narrative
of the four-year cycle narrative and everything else so
and everything else so
and everything else so that'll be that
that'll be that
that'll be that ethereum is
ethereum is
ethereum is i mean just
i mean just
i mean just the most gorgeous chart i've ever seen
we need to clear this level just two and
we need to clear this level just two and
we need to clear this level just two and a half grand level
a half grand level
a half grand level it's always done a lot of chopping
it's always done a lot of chopping
it's always done a lot of chopping around two and a half grand ups and
around two and a half grand ups and
around two and a half grand ups and downs and ups and downs
downs and ups and downs
downs and ups and downs breaks that obviously goes to the top of
breaks that obviously goes to the top of
breaks that obviously goes to the top of the range the five grand level
the range the five grand level
the range the five grand level and then when this wedge goes you know
and then when this wedge goes you know
and then when this wedge goes you know we saw what wedges look like we just
we saw what wedges look like we just
we saw what wedges look like we just look like that
look like that
look like that uh
uh
uh let's do the weekly z cash
when wedges go there's a wedge going
when wedges go there's a wedge going
when wedges go there's a wedge going there's a wedge going when they go they
there's a wedge going when they go they
there's a wedge going when they go they really go it's kind of
really go it's kind of
really go it's kind of stored
stored
stored power
power
power and the stored power here is
and the stored power here is
and the stored power here is enormous
enormous
enormous um so i still really like this i know
um so i still really like this i know
um so i still really like this i know everyone's like oh hell it's been so
everyone's like oh hell it's been so
everyone's like oh hell it's been so crypto i'm like really
crypto i'm like really
crypto i'm like really again because everyone's time horizons
again because everyone's time horizons
again because everyone's time horizons are so
are so
are so goddamn short
goddamn short
and what's bizarre is the shortest time
and what's bizarre is the shortest time
and what's bizarre is the shortest time horizon people
horizon people
horizon people are the 20 something year olds show me the
are the 20 something year olds show me the
are the 20 something year olds show me the money now
money now
money now i'm like jesus christ you've got the best
i'm like jesus christ you've got the best
i'm like jesus christ you've got the best set of opportunities the world's ever
set of opportunities the world's ever
set of opportunities the world's ever given you
given you
given you and he wants it immediately and you've
and he wants it immediately and you've
and he wants it immediately and you've got it all
got it all
got it all it's it all in front of you
so it's amazing i just cannot understand
so it's amazing i just cannot understand the short-termism of people
the short-termism of people
the short-termism of people given a macro opportunity set but that's
given a macro opportunity set but that's
given a macro opportunity set but that's you know that's why us macro old dogs
you know that's why us macro old dogs
you know that's why us macro old dogs tend to do quite well over time um
tend to do quite well over time um
tend to do quite well over time um solana interesting chart as well because
solana interesting chart as well because
solana interesting chart as well because this really to me
this really to me
this really to me you know if i just look at the monthly
you know if i just look at the monthly
you know if i just look at the monthly chart
chart
chart it just feels like it's a big fucking
it just feels like it's a big fucking cup and handle
cup and handle
cup and handle this is right this is lalaville
this is right this is lalaville
this is right this is lalaville again this is a monthly chart we're not
again this is a monthly chart we're not
again this is a monthly chart we're not talking about
talking about
talking about today next week this month next month
today next week this month next month
today next week this month next month the next year but we're talking about
the next year but we're talking about
the next year but we're talking about the overall structural
the overall structural
the overall structural signature pattern of the markets and
signature pattern of the markets and
signature pattern of the markets and they're very good i mean they're very
they're very good i mean they're very
they're very good i see nothing that is negative
i see nothing that is negative
i see nothing that is negative in the longer term basis short term
in the longer term basis short term
in the longer term basis short term is it overbought let's use
is it overbought let's use
is it overbought let's use i love demark indicators you should all
i love demark indicators you should all
i love demark indicators you should all get them they're fantastic
get them they're fantastic
get them they're fantastic uh untrading view um tom de mark's a
uh untrading view um tom de mark's a
uh untrading view um tom de mark's a friend of mine
friend of mine
friend of mine i mean everybody from stevie cohen to john
i mean everybody from stevie cohen to john
i mean everybody from stevie cohen to john burbank to stan drachenmiller to
burbank to stan drachenmiller to
burbank to stan drachenmiller to paul everybody uses
paul everybody uses
paul everybody uses demark indicators and most people retail
demark indicators and most people retail
demark indicators and most people retail people don't there's fantastic
people don't there's fantastic
people don't there's fantastic um and just ask your ai to tell you how
um and just ask your ai to tell you how
um and just ask your ai to tell you how it works
it works
it works but um and it's not very expensive
but um and it's not very expensive
but um and it's not very expensive either
either
either on bloomberg they're bloody expensive i
on bloomberg they're bloody expensive i
on bloomberg they're bloody expensive i paid for them for
paid for them for 25 years um
25 years um
25 years um i just think yeah we've got the power to
i just think yeah we've got the power to
i just think yeah we've got the power to go higher here
go higher here
go higher here another one because i know a bunch of you
another one because i know a bunch of you
another one because i know a bunch of you hate me because you're in suey and you
hate me because you're in suey and you
hate me because you're in suey and you think it's the world's piece of ever
think it's the world's piece of ever
think it's the world's piece of ever it's gone down 80 and i keep saying i
it's gone down 80 and i keep saying i
it's gone down 80 and i keep saying i don't care because
don't care because
don't care because it's a high beats a token and that's
it's a high beats a token and that's
it's a high beats a token and that's what happens when the market goes down
what happens when the market goes down
what happens when the market goes down liquidity it's not strong enough and
liquidity it's not strong enough and
liquidity it's not strong enough and you're all like you're a piece of
you're all like you're a piece of
you're all like you're a piece of scammer and i'm like really here we go
scammer and i'm like really here we go
scammer and i'm like really here we go again why don't you go and buy your
again why don't you go and buy your
again why don't you go and buy your cat token again and lose money and then
cat token again and lose money and then
cat token again and lose money and then get your money your wallet rugged
get your money your wallet rugged
get your money your wallet rugged cheapest but also what they're building
cheapest but also what they're building
cheapest but also what they're building with it is amazing
forget that the child's the truth chart
forget that the child's the truth chart
forget that the child's the truth chart went down a lot as we know
went down a lot as we know
went down a lot as we know i think we're forming
i think we're forming
i think we're forming a sort of weird
a sort of weird
a sort of weird it'd look better if i do it the other
it'd look better if i do it the other
it'd look better if i do it the other way around this weird head and shoulders
way around this weird head and shoulders
way around this weird head and shoulders you can't see it from here see if i can
you can't see it from here see if i can
you can't see it from here see if i can invert i don't know if i can yeah
invert i don't know if i can yeah
invert i don't know if i can yeah invert scale
it's this pattern if we were to break
it's this pattern if we were to break
it's this pattern if we were to break here
here
here whatever that is 93
whatever that is 93
whatever that is 93 i mean this would take me all the way
i mean this would take me all the way
i mean this would take me all the way down to 260 or so
down to 260 or so
down to 260 or so um i'll invert it
but overall
but overall
but overall this is what i think it's forming so
this is what i think it's forming so
this is what i think it's forming so it's earlier cycles that hasn't got the
it's earlier cycles that hasn't got the
it's earlier cycles that hasn't got the what i think is the basis of a large
what i think is the basis of a large
what i think is the basis of a large sort of wedge pattern forming over time
sort of wedge pattern forming over time
sort of wedge pattern forming over time so break here we get to the top we
so break here we get to the top we
so break here we get to the top we probably pull back
probably pull back
probably pull back and then we go and all the charts show
and then we go and all the charts show
and then we go and all the charts show me the same thing is the long-term
me the same thing is the long-term
me the same thing is the long-term pattern
pattern
pattern looks great right that's enough crypto
looks great right that's enough crypto
looks great right that's enough crypto let's do a bit of
let's do a bit of
let's do a bit of other stuff i mean another
other stuff i mean another
other stuff i mean another killer chart
killer chart
killer chart and it's so unfashionable
and it's so unfashionable
and it's so unfashionable but it's tesla i mean it's just
but it's tesla i mean it's just
but it's tesla i mean it's just it's just one of the best technical charts
it's just one of the best technical charts
it's just one of the best technical charts the world has ever produced it
the world has ever produced it
the world has ever produced it produces amazing i mean i didn't show
produces amazing i mean i didn't show
produces amazing i mean i didn't show you actually with uh
you actually with uh
you actually with uh with um
with um
with um sweet produced a monthly weekly and
sweet produced a monthly weekly and
sweet produced a monthly weekly and daily nines and 13 patterns but here we
daily nines and 13 patterns but here we
daily nines and 13 patterns but here we go
go
go with the 9 and 13 in tesla with the 12 we
with the 9 and 13 in tesla with the 12 we
with the 9 and 13 in tesla with the 12 we always count to another 13.
always count to another 13.
this wedge pattern they're all the same
this wedge pattern they're all the same
this wedge pattern they're all the same and tesla's very driven by liquidity
and tesla's very driven by liquidity
and tesla's very driven by liquidity obviously because it's not in your car
obviously because it's not in your car
obviously because it's not in your car company everything else
company everything else
company everything else even circle looks amazing i mean there's
even circle looks amazing i mean there's so many good charts out there
so many good charts out there
so many good charts out there and this whole pause that we've been in
and this whole pause that we've been in
and this whole pause that we've been in for a while
for a while
for a while it's really good i mean look at that
it's really good i mean look at that
it's really good i mean look at that really what else do you need i mean scott
really what else do you need i mean scott
really what else do you need i mean scott best in the treasury secretary of the
best in the treasury secretary of the
best in the treasury secretary of the united states is telling you
united states is telling you
united states is telling you one of their primary ambition is to
one of their primary ambition is to
one of their primary ambition is to massively grow the stable coin market
massively grow the stable coin market
massively grow the stable coin market because it buys the government debt and
because it buys the government debt and
because it buys the government debt and dollarizes the world
dollarizes the world
dollarizes the world and you don't own circle i mean i don't
and you don't own circle i mean i don't
and you don't own circle i mean i don't get it
get it
get it um oh because it went down a bit
um oh because it went down a bit
um oh because it went down a bit recently and i
recently and i
recently and i i lost some money and i think you're a
i lost some money and i think you're a
i lost some money and i think you're a scammer
and everybody is shit so yeah look it went down actually let's do it oh circle shit because it
went down 85 percent went down 85 percent shit chart come back to me in three years time when
it's up here somewhere and we'll talk again um spacex killer chart um
yeah but what about all of the people who are long the stock who are going to dump on me
everybody dumps on me it's the greatest fucking company the world has ever produced this has the
highest chance of any company ever of repeating the british east india company in the dutch east
india company this thing is basically going to be a fucking sovereign state and you're you're
worried about what what it did because some vc is going to dump on me it's
slightly
it's the the narrative in this space is so stupid it's embarrassing um what else is interesting here
um i mean robin hood i mean vlad doesn't fucking stop that guy's a goddamn machine i mean
i mean really is the guy's a machine look at this
and you know i added a bunch of the portfolio when it sold off here on this nine count and
demark starting to rock it up again i mean this thing is producing a nice log trend channel looking
really good um what else we got here interesting stuff oh yeah this is the killer chart of the day
uh let's go to the daily chart dolly n the big daddy also known as the house of pain
anybody ever trade dolly n in macro lost their fucking shirt um this chart looks to me like a
obviously we had
intervention us intervention intervention if they break this and the the japanese are really good
with charts and trust me the central bank uses them because i've lived it and experienced it
firsthand and they've even talked about it if between them and besant they can break this trend
line at 155 and it's probably coming down to 140 or so and that creates the demand for bonds and
everything else what best is trying to do here is to break this trend line and it's probably going to
break this trend line let's get rid of the log chart is let's get rid of the d mark here i mean look
at that one two three four five six daily 13s one two three four five six seven i mean that's the
largest number of top counts i've ever seen this was pretty similar but these are almost all at the
same level
um so let's look at the long-term chart here
now my view on this for and people who read global macro investor can account for this
back here i said this thing is going to 200 plus because the inverted head and shoulders
so far it's done well but 913 they really want it lower they want the dollar lower and and the yen
higher and they will those of you because i mean i can see everybody's traveling around the world
moving to japan right now because it's so cheap never used to be used to be the most expensive
country in the world because it's so high quality anyway so that leads us to the big daddy the dxy
dxy over time we're in the dollar uptrend this is a dollar of debted world the dollar is going up
anybody who tells you the dollar is going to collapse since the end of the world order is
smoking crack or stupid um but if we just go to the daily sharp i mean this is a
sorry i'm fucking around with the charts always i do apologize um but i don't know what i'm doing
but here we go abc correction five ways down abc breaking lower and as we break lower
it should start to accelerate down to where i think it's going which is
somewhere down here
and it'll still be part of the uptrend of the dollar but you can see the nines and the 13
stacking up here telling us it's not going to last much longer so it comes back down to here
and then we have the next leg higher because the dollar over time is trending higher and it's
trending higher for a very simple fact is 50 of the world debt is in dollars uh the u.s is going
to introduce stable coins to every single fucking corner of the planet um and there's going to be
more buyers of dollars and then they're going to tokenize every stock and everyone's going to be
buying spacex um why would you invest in a local market you know nigerian brewing company which
have been great bets in the past versus spacex um because it's tokenized and you've got some crypto
because you've got stable coins so that's where the world is going i'm trying to think uh bonds
let's look at bonds quickly uh so let's look at the uh oh by the way the i actually didn't
even know that so the two years putting two thirteens on a monthly chart and they're two
months away from a nine as well generally speaking i'd expect to move down to kind of two percent
that that's my longer my longer term view is that based on the deflationary aspects of
of um ai robotics and everything else and the aging population is inflation has no chance
i just don't get the
of it so right now we're nudging up against the risk limit of the nine uh at the top of this
range i think it's an abc let's see and if we look at the daily
it's this rising wedge which i think will end up failing already getting top patterns i think it
breaks the bottom of the wedge i honestly do we'll wait and see uh 10-year bonds just for
everybody there how i look at 10-year bonds is that i think there's a range
of which everyone goes oh my god they're breaking out but this is the range that every time it gets
into scotty boy um sorts it out and he's doing it now and there's the weekly nine um final one
because i know a bunch of you look at it gold uh gold looks fine it's um break out from the wedge
correct it a bit let's have a look at it on a shorter term time horizon and gold is basically
real-time financial conditions if you want to know what ralph's financial conditions are you
can look at gold because right now they're very high and they're very high and they're very high
highly correlated tells you i think that this once this level goes here this kind of inverse
head and shouldery pattern then goal goes up again because dollar's gonna fall rate's gonna fall
and that's why dollar falling rates falling financial conditions moving the central bank
having to the central bank having to continue to finance the interest payment via the issuance of
the interest rate and that's why dollar falling rates falling financial conditions moving the central bank
either banking system or themselves is the everything code to offset the aging population
i don't think there's a full cycle i don't think what we've gone through in crypto is a cycle it
can't be because it wasn't a liquidity cycle it was a dampening of liquidity whilst there's a
massive bull market in something else i just think it continues over time and i don't sweat the small
time horizons if you do you're up the biggest opportunity you've ever had all you've had to do
and i said this when i started the whole idea with the exponential age
all right it's two bets to have in fact the everything code the everything code was two
things own nasdaq own crypto go to the beach and still the bitcoin has outperformed the nasdaq
from the low and it will do over time but because your time horizons are too short
you're gonna fuck this up okay that's all the alpha i'm going to give you fuckers because you're free
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Key Points:
The host opens "Drinks with Raoul" from Napa Valley, drinking Schramsberg sparkling wine and mocking Napa as overpriced wine made for people with more money than taste.
He contrasts ultra-processed American snacks like Captain Crunch and Buffalo pretzel crisps with simple Spanish potato chips made of only potatoes, olive oil, and salt.
He launches Raoulpal.ai, a free AI mentor trained on 35 years of his macro thinking, interviews, writings, and market framework, available on the Real Vision platform.
The AI guest explains the "Everything Code"
He admits the "banana zone" call was early because governments extended debt duration and AI absorbed excess liquidity, but insists the mechanism remains intact.
Charts show labor force participation falling into 2028, rising debt and interest payments, and expected productivity gains that could create benign inflation and strong growth.
Crypto charts for Bitcoin, Ethereum, Zcash, Solana, and Sui look structurally bullish, while Tesla, Circle, SpaceX, Robinhood, gold, bonds, and the dollar are also analyzed.
He urges investors to zoom out, avoid short-termism, hold Nasdaq and crypto, and promotes his book "The Everything Code" and Real Vision membership.
Summary:
The transcript is an episode of "Drinks with Raoul," filmed in Napa Valley, where the host mixes wine tasting, snack criticism, and macro market analysis. He mocks Napa Valley wines as overpriced, sweet, high-alcohol products while praising a Schramsberg sparkling wine and simple European snacks over processed American junk food. ai, a free AI mentor trained on his 35 years of macro thinking, interviews, and written work, designed to help users think through markets using his Everything Code framework.
In a simulated interview, the AI discusses Napa wine, admits the "banana zone" call was early due to extended government debt duration and AI absorbing liquidity, and explains asset allocation along the risk curve. The host then reviews numerous charts covering demographics, debt-to-GDP, liquidity, interest payments, productivity, financial conditions, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Zcash, Solana, Sui, Tesla, Circle, SpaceX, Robinhood, gold, bonds, and the dollar. His conclusions remain bullish on long-term crypto and Nasdaq exposure, warning that short time horizons cause investors to miss the biggest opportunities.
He promotes his book "The Everything Code" and the Real Vision platform throughout.
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He thinks Napa Valley produces some of the world's most overpriced, sweet, high-alcohol wines, though there are a few elegant exceptions.
The Everything Code is Raoul Pal's structural framework explaining how demographics, debt, and liquidity drive markets and the economy over time.
It is a free AI version of Raoul Pal trained on 35 years of his macro thinking, interviews, and writings, available for anyone to use.
Everything sits on a risk curve, with technology and crypto at the far end responding most to liquidity changes; he focuses on the risk curve rather than specific allocations.
He believes the dollar is in a long-term uptrend because 50% of world debt is in dollars and stablecoins will increase global dollar demand.
He expects inflation to stay low due to AI, robotics, and aging populations, and sees bond yields potentially moving lower over the long term.
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