The host reflects on completing the Timberline Trail, describing an intense physical experience with 86,827 steps and 6,773 calories burned, yet noting a surprising absence of post-exertion hunger. Recovery was prolonged, with extreme muscle soreness lasting two days and difficulty with even basic movements. He identifies the downhill running as the most mentally and physically taxing part, though the trail was more navigable than last year's disorienting, maze-like hike. He also shares that the experience exceeded the body's sustainable limits, marking a threshold where endurance becomes unsustainable. The episode shifts to positive workplace updates, including the hiring of Mackenzie, a new team member whose personality fits perfectly, reinforcing the host’s belief that team chemistry trumps qualifications. The host also shares joyful family moments—apple picking at a childhood orchard, tailgating with cheerleaders and band performances, and playful rooftop ball-kicking with his daughters—highlighting the value of simple, shared experiences. He concludes by officially crowning the Hungarian peppers from Wooden City as his top favorite dish over the kick and chicken, praising its unique flavor, and expresses gratitude for the listeners, emphasizing the podcast’s goal of bringing joy and connection.
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Hi again everybody, and welcome back
to the MilesPathcast.
The flagship podcast of Post-Mortals.
'Cause I gotta hit it on a one more time,
we gotta close the book on it.
What it did last week, the Timberline Trail.
Hopefully that podcast was somewhat entertaining
with just like just all the voice memos attached to it.
I didn't know that'd be interesting or not.
I think it'd be cool 'cause like someday
I'll be able to look back on it and listen to it
and just remember and reminisce in the (laughs)
just how that day went.
Just let's just put it that way, just how that day went.
But just really quick, just to kind of close the book on it.
I had some stats from that day.
So last Wednesday, on the day of the event,
I did 86,827 steps, which is insane.
I think I've ever taken that many in my life.
The equivalent of climbing 770, 771 flights of stairs
and during the actual thing, it's as I've heard,
6,773 calories, which I don't think I still got
back yet.
Usually if you did this kind of thing the day after,
you soon would just be just be starving.
Like even day after you soon would be starving,
that day I ate what I was supposed to eat,
but I don't even know if I ate anywhere near
like a normal daily amount of calories.
Next day, same thing.
You think you'd be starving and you'd be ready to eat
and it's just not the case 'cause your body's still
in such a state of shock of trying to survive it.
On top of the fact, you can barely move after these things.
If you've ever done anything close to this,
even though you've ever done a marathon,
you realize like your muscles get so sore,
like it takes, it took me two days
before I could actually like move normally again.
Like there's videos of me like our little doorbell camera,
you can like see me like just hobbling down
our like the two steps in front of our house.
Like it was everything I could do just to walk,
let alone go up or down stairs and sit down
or stand back up again, it takes it out of you, man.
Like it was so sore.
Every time I had to climb out of the car
on the drive home, holy smokes.
Like your body just tenses up and it freezes up.
But yeah, usually the hunger hits two or three days later
and it never really ever did, which was kind of a bummer.
Maybe at some point it'll still hit, like I, who knows.
It's just a weird thing to like have your body
just go that kind of kill or burn
and then never really want it back, which is odd.
I try to get it back 'cause like you don't wanna
starve yourself, but like I just like that sheer hunger
that is so great 'cause like you see, you've earned it,
just it never really came, which was kind of a bummer.
What I would do different.
I feel like I did the day of perfectly.
I think looking back, I actually said this exact same thing.
I didn't do any kind of like long distance runs.
Like the longest run was like 15 miles if that.
And that was only on a couple days.
Like I was like, that was one day, two seven mile runs combined.
It's like 14 miles.
Never really knew your long runs.
That would have been helpful 'cause my body,
boy was it feeling until the last 20 miles.
And I wish I would have done a little bit more strength
training with you, the quads are my hamstrings
'cause those are the ones that went first
and I think if I had just done something other than running,
that'd have made a really big difference running downhill
and going uphill for that matter.
Because I've been asked like, what was harder?
Was it doing this one?
This one being, they both had the,
pretty much the same elevation gain.
It was like 10,800 plus feet.
And last year it was 30 miles,
but it's like more of a hike all the way up
and I'll let it back down.
This time was more of a run with ups and downs spread throughout.
It was an extra 10 miles on top of it.
The harder one, all I think back on last year is,
whereas this is like, what I did this last week
at Timberline Trail.
It was more like a trail through the woods
to really simplify it.
Like you're just, you're following a path.
If you've ever been on camiac butte
or any kind of like hiking path
where it's just there and it's easy,
I didn't even need like my phone really to navigate.
Every now and then there'd be like a fork in the road
but that was pretty rare.
Last year the hardest part was going down,
knowing my phone had like six percent battery left
and I needed the map on that thing
because the maze that was the Cactus to Clouds Trail
because it's just, it's, you're going through boulders
and scrub brush and cactuses and the trails kind of there
but there's not enough trail
because every now and then you,
you wander off and all of a sudden
you're out in the middle of nowhere
and you've got a backtrack.
The fact that I was out there in the dark
with my phone dying knowing that I had no idea
how much further I had to go,
that was so much more mentally difficult.
But the hard part about this one was the knowing
that I had to run downhill to make up time
to finish in a decent time and I couldn't do that.
And just like pushing, pushing to run downhill
in my body saying like, no, no legs are done.
That was the hardest part.
So between what was harder,
I don't know if I would agree to answer that.
All I know is that I would rather do what I did last year again
if I had to do it again.
Grand, like last year I said I would never do that thing again
and here I am saying I'd rather do it again.
So it's hard to say, but I think just the hardness of like
pushing myself in my body was done on this last one
and it was, everything was hurting was, that was hard.
That was really, really hard.
And you're always under the cover of trees.
Like whereas before I got out in the sun
and that really makes a difference
when you're like walking through the shade of like trees
and such, yeah, there are meadows,
but there's a lot of shaded areas.
That it's just, it's nicer when you're out in the sun
for this kind of thing.
Assuming it's not a thousand degrees,
which it never really was in either case.
Yeah, that pretty much covers it though.
Glad it's done.
I'm trying to already figure out like,
there's always already a part of me.
It's like, oh, now like I've done two
and I feel like this needs to be like a trilogy
and the perfect cap would be the Grand Canyon thing
'cause like it did 30 miles last year,
40 this time and 50 would be the Grand Canyon.
Kindle joke that I would do like a 100 mile race.
I just, it's just not in the cards.
There's something called like the Leadville 100
and there's a lot of 100 mile races.
I just doing the thing last week made me realize
that that's not what my bodies could have for.
I never want like my girls saying they can't do something
or even like my patients here at work.
It drives me nuts.
I'm like, oh, I can't do it, it's too hard.
Yeah, you can.
But yes, what that doesn't apply to a 100 mile run.
It's just a little bit different
and it's just that seems, it's kind of like hot sauce.
Like if you're eating hot sauce on wings,
like you cross a barrier where it no longer becomes enjoyable
and it's just too hot, guess what?
I think when you cross the 40, 50 mile barrier,
it's already passed the enjoyable point
but it just becomes too much and that's a lot.
Anyways, so that closes the book on that thing.
Timberline Trail, glad I did it, glad it's done.
And I'm glad I can actually kind of walk again now.
All right, tell me something good coming up.
Got to talk about some new stuff at work.
The IOU1 is kind of a, we're throwing it back
an extra week so I didn't get to talk about it last week
from the tailgates and the cooker games
and then Sean's what he went to.
There's a new number one menu I haven't spoken.
I'm ready to crown it and we got to get there.
But tell me something good.
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Tell me something good.
At work, recently hired somebody new.
We have a new Coda.
First time we've had somebody new boy in quite some time.
I can't even think, I guess we had probably two years.
It's been about two years since we fired somebody new.
And it's awesome.
We're real lucky.
She fits right in.
And she's so kind, like she said the other day
that she listened to my podcast, which was it,
it made my day and it was super kind
and she certainly did not have to do that.
But it made me, you know, that kind of thing
means the world to me.
But oh man, she's awesome.
She fits right into our group.
We're so lucky that we've, when people hire people,
I've learned this more than anything over the last several years
since being in this position.
Like I'm going through school.
You always talk so much about resumes and interviews.
And once you get to the real world, you realize that
that means nothing.
I don't think I ever saw this person.
Hopefully I can say her name.
Mackenzie, sorry, I'm not supposed to say that.
I don't think I ever saw her resume.
Didn't matter, never interviewed her.
Didn't matter.
It's all about the personality types.
Like you have to have somebody that's got a personality
that's gonna fit into your group
or that at least measures it in some way or another.
She fits right in, which is awesome.
But so often, I can have the highest qualified person
in the state, but if they don't fit with our group,
if they are hard person to work with,
if they're personality sucks, guess what?
I don't want them.
It's just, it's not gonna work.
So it's so important how that personality type,
which I guess is probably where those personality profiles
come in, which we did forever ago.
And it never really helped.
But anyways, everyone we've hired
has always been a student.
In the way that our professional works, you have to go out
and you have to do like a field work stand,
which is eight to 12 weeks,
where you're basically paying to work.
And it's really great for the employers
because then you can see exactly who this person is.
You can work alongside him for a period of time
and you realize, hey, this person's gonna be great.
I want to keep them or hey, this isn't the best fit.
And thanks for your help, but we're good.
And everyone here now that works here
has been hired because they were a student.
And we got to see who they were
and we realized our personality works with our group.
And it works really nicely.
And everyone can be close and become friends
because I've worked in situations before
where that is not the case,
where your coworkers are just coworkers.
And I'm very fortunate that here like everyone's a tight group
and we're all friends and it works
because there's a lot of burnout in our profession.
But it's nice that she fits right into that mold.
And you know, I've already heard like the owner
of the clinic say that she's ever heard her
like talking to families and she thought
she was doing fantastic and she's so sweet.
Like it's just, it's high praise all around
and we're so lucky to have that and to have her first days,
several days be so, so great.
Because this profession, like any profession,
quite frankly, guess what?
Your first couple weeks are probably gonna be the hardest
because you're getting used to everything.
You've got new patients, new clients.
And on top of that, like she's been seeing
a lot of other patients from other therapists
'cause everyone's been sick
and she's handled it very gracefully.
So the tell me something good is we've got,
we've got somebody new who just works,
who just fits so, so nicely.
I should say just, she fits wonderfully.
And it's so nice to have that because boy,
there's been times where we kind of experiment
with hiring somebody outside of that mold
and it just doesn't always work.
It's close, as close as we all work together.
It just, it makes it really hard.
So great for that.
It's awesome to have her.
So happy about it.
I owe you one.
♪ You know who you are yeah who you want ♪
A couple weeks ago, we're at the top.
WSU tailgate. And we kind of got a taste of it the time before, but we went down and we were there
in time because there's something called like the Cougar Prouse, like the band goes around and the
cheerleaders go around and they play in different spots and you can go up and see it. And it's
cool. But it's really, really cool when you're two years older, you're four years old. Because
Emmy loved it, loved the cheerleaders. So the other one is for A, the cheerleaders would be the band.
We'll get to the band in a second. But the cheerleaders coming up and Emmy got a CM and she was there
like everyone's kind of like, stand out around them as they performed like on these stairs. And Emmy's
like up in front of them by herself dancing. She's got a pom-pom in her hand. She's trying to
copy what they're doing. She jumps up on this ledge and she's dancing on the ledge and they're
all looking at her and she's smelling at them. And it was, it was so cool that she was so happy and
she didn't care what anybody thought. She was just doing her thing dance with the cheerleaders
completely immersed in her own world. And it was, and as a parent, that is the coolest thing to see.
She was just so happy and she talked about it so much afterwards. And then for the band, Emmy loved
the band too. But Boyle Boy was the band Gabby's thing because the band played and they were done.
And then like it's probably 15 minutes later, we were going to go get ice creamers. We always go
get ice cream at Ferdinand's. And we heard the band like pick up like a block the other direction.
And Gab was like, I want to see the band. I want to go see the band and it's like, all right,
Gabes, do you want ice cream? Or do you want to go see the band? Kind of known all along like she's
going to get ice cream one way or the other. But I'm just always curious. And to her credit,
she chose the band over ice cream. So she went with mom, she got to go see the band again,
they're doing the thing, playing their drums and doing things that bands do. And she loved it.
She loves that kind of thing. And it was, she eventually did join his ice cream and it all worked
out perfect. But it's just so cool that both girls, they love that kind of thing. And that's,
obviously the whole point of why they go around and then the band and the cheerleaders do a thing
is because kids love it. And man, get M and Gabs loved it. And they're already looking forward
to it. That's why we go down to cook games. Not to go to a football game, but to go see the
band and see cheerleaders, see butch. We got to take kitchens with butch, which is awesome.
And also get ice cream. It was a great day. And I think we've got another one coming up.
Probably, man, there's, I think one in October, one in November, maybe. But hey, girls loved it.
I went for all those people out there. All the students out there who are spending their day
doing that kind of thing. Guess what? Two little girls absolutely appreciated you more than the world.
All right. Last but not least. Oh, also, also, we also stopped at the apple orchard on the way
down. The orchard that we grew up, or that I grew up going to an in Garfield, bishops orchard.
The girls got to go pick apples. And then we didn't get the chance to do cider,
which I really would have happened because I think they would have loved it. But just going to
pick in like fresh apples off the tree, boy, do you realize that fresh apples are so much better
than what the apples that you buy it say for your Walmart? Holy smokes between the crispness
and the flavor. It's just, it's unmatched, which obviously it's fresh off the tree. But girls love
that as well. Pickin' apples off the tree. And that was a fun experience because we grew up
like walking there from school every year and we'd go make apple cider every year and it was just
fun. Last but not least, Sean's what you into. Before I get to the menu item, that's new number one,
the new gold standard in Spokane. Last night, M and Gabs and I were playing outside and
I had a ball and she wanted me to kick it. And I mentioned this several podcasts ago,
probably several months ago, where Garrett and I growing up, we'd kicked like the ball against the
roof and we'd had different like destinations for singles and doubles and triples when we played
nine innings of, you know, if you kick the ball over the roof, it's an out, but if you kick right
to the top, it's a home run. We had a whole game set up. And I mean, Gabby and I kind of played
that last night because our roof of our house, at least in the back, is perfect because it's like
this, just this long stretch that kind of goes to the top and there's a ton of room there.
And you know, I've never got enough fun it is. Yeah, I had so much fun. We were just,
I would kick the ball up on the roof and they'd watch it bounce nearly to the top and then bounce
down. You have to like run across the other side of the house and try and catch it before it land
it or maybe it takes a nod, bounce off a gutter and all of a sudden you're reaching up your head
and diving, trying to catch it. It was so fun. Like the girls were as laughing, they're not at the
point where they could possibly catch the ball, let alone kick it on the roof, but it's just fun.
It's just good old classic fun that we were playing out there until it got dark outside,
playing out until like 6/3. It's already getting dark, which hey, I'm happy to get started because
girls can go to bed in the dark, which is awesome too. But, Sean's what do you mean too?
All right, listeners, it's time for hidden passions, wild hobbies and that one thing that you
didn't know miles was obsessed with. Buckle up, it's time for Sean's, what are you into?
New menu item. I've always swore, I've always thought it was the the kick and chicken,
the the crate from Crape Cafe Sisters that is like, you know, they got their suite and they got
their saver. You always got to get a suite one as well. But the savory ones, the kick and chicken,
where it's like, it's chicken inside, there's like cream cheese and there's like a spicy kind of
hot sauce on there. It's, I should have looked up exactly to describe it. Some special sauce,
like Guchang maybe or it doesn't matter, kick and chicken at Crape Cafe Sisters. It was always
my favorite menu item, but something's been creeping up and I think it's finally overtaking it.
Last Friday, we went out for an anniversary, eight years, which is just insane, eight-year anniversary,
which in my mind, I always think back like how it was as a kid, like that's like entering
first grade and, you know, being married at that point in time. And now we've been married
at the point where we're graduating eighth grade. Like, that is, that was such an insane amount
of time back then and now all of a sudden we've been married that long. It's just, it's just nuts.
But anyways, for an anniversary dinner, we went out to Wooden City. It's like our place. We love
going there. I've got great food, great pizzas. We always do apps, we always do pizzas. And one
of their apps there is so unique and I've talked about it before, but we're crowning it officially
here, the Hungarian peppers. If you ever go to Wooden City, you at least have to try them. It's
one of those things that I think if I thought, if I saw it on a menu, I don't think I'd order it.
But we'd heard about it. We ordered it for the first time and this was probably a couple of
years ago and we've gotten it ever since. Like, you have to get it. And I think what it is,
like I think it's like two like poblano peppers that are like sliced open and they're cooked in a
very, very special way because like all the pepper dish is kind of gone. And there's this
sausage like laid inside of it and it comes like just doused in this the sauce and then there's,
it comes with bread and possible to describe, but holy smokes like the flavor is so unique.
And the dish itself is so unique. I've never had anything like it. I think it has to be number one.
I think it overtakes the kick and chicken is number one. Chicken is still number two and it's still,
it is, it's a really close race. This is like a pancakes waffle thing just because I like one
does not mean like the other. I like them both. They're both really, really good. But I think the
Hungarian peppers due to the uniqueness and the flavor and it's just special. Man, it's so good.
So I think that's number one. Kick and chicken is number two.
Chicken over the whole list. I don't think I have necessarily a number three off the top of my head.
There's, oh, there's this, there's another restaurant downtown right across from the Spokane Arena
that has a really, really good fried chicken spicy sandwich that I remember loving like at Kasa
or something. It's right by the playground. Anyways, that maybe, maybe that one's number three or
something like twigs number three. I love twigs. I haven't been there forever either.
Anyways, the best two Hungarian pepper and the chicken chicken are number one. And number two,
kind of like, well, it's like, could you eat it every day? And I don't feel like that's necessarily
the best way of rating these kind of things. Like I probably couldn't eat the chicken chicken
every day. If we, if we would do something that you had to eat every day, it's probably going to be
subway, which is a really boring answer. And still my favorite otherwise restaurant to go to,
but Hungarian peppers, kick and chicken, and then the fields open after that. Probably some spicy hot
chicken sandwich somewhere. But yeah, we went there. Wooden City highly recommended. It's really,
really good. You have to have reservations because it's always full. We were out there last
party at night. It was like homecoming because like, there's a ton of people and dresses.
High schoolers don't look like high schoolers anymore. I think we've, we've moved past that.
It's like, they look like they are in college. But great time, great anniversary, great food,
love wooden city. I'd recommend it to anyone interested and definitely get the Hungarian peppers.
And we always get a pizza. It kind of depends. Sometimes they have really good special pizzas.
Sometimes we just get like their, their bacon pesto pizza, but you really can't go wrong as far
as any of that goes. But it's all I've got. Thank you all for listening. As always, it means,
it means the world to me. Hopefully this brings at least like a little bit of joy or entertainment,
at least something. I just love doing it. It's inspired by the Shambamir podcast. He's back. He's
a bit for a break and he's, I love his podcast and I hope I can like, I'm imitating at least a
little bit. At least the joy that I get from his. Hopefully that's coming out in mind as well.
Emmy Gabby Soundbyte on the way out. And we'll talk to y'all next week. Bye.
All right, and what game are you playing? Well, the ball on the roof. So the ball on the roof?
Yeah. It's pretty fun. Have we got it over the house yet? No. No, not quite. We got close,
all right? Yeah. What have we almost got it into? The chimney. Almost in the chimney.
But not quite. Do you like this game, Gabby? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The speaker completed the Timberline Trail with 86,827 steps, equivalent to climbing 771 flights of stairs, and burned 6,773 calories, though he didn’t feel the expected post-exertion hunger.
Physical recovery was slow—muscles remained sore for two days, making basic movements like walking or climbing stairs extremely difficult, with visible struggle captured in home videos.
The hardest part of the trail was running downhill to maintain pace, which caused intense physical resistance and mental strain, with the speaker describing it as the most taxing aspect.
Unlike last year’s trail, which involved navigating a disorienting, trailless maze in the dark with a dying phone, this trail was more straightforward but still physically demanding.
The speaker believes the experience pushed his body beyond sustainable limits, especially after 40+ miles, where endurance and enjoyment become unbalanced—crossing a "hot sauce" threshold where physical effort becomes overwhelming.
A new team member, Mackenzie, joined the workplace and fits well due to her kind personality and strong team alignment, despite not being selected through traditional resume or interview processes.
The speaker emphasizes that personality compatibility is more important than qualifications when hiring, as it directly affects team cohesion and long-term success.
The episode highlights joy from family outings, including apple picking at a childhood orchard, tailgating with cheerleaders and band performances, and a fun game of kicking a ball off the roof with children.
Summary:
The host reflects on completing the Timberline Trail, describing an intense physical experience with 86,827 steps and 6,773 calories burned, yet noting a surprising absence of post-exertion hunger. Recovery was prolonged, with extreme muscle soreness lasting two days and difficulty with even basic movements. He identifies the downhill running as the most mentally and physically taxing part, though the trail was more navigable than last year's disorienting, maze-like hike.
He also shares that the experience exceeded the body's sustainable limits, marking a threshold where endurance becomes unsustainable. The episode shifts to positive workplace updates, including the hiring of Mackenzie, a new team member whose personality fits perfectly, reinforcing the host’s belief that team chemistry trumps qualifications. The host also shares joyful family moments—apple picking at a childhood orchard, tailgating with cheerleaders and band performances, and playful rooftop ball-kicking with his daughters—highlighting the value of simple, shared experiences.
He concludes by officially crowning the Hungarian peppers from Wooden City as his top favorite dish over the kick and chicken, praising its unique flavor, and expresses gratitude for the listeners, emphasizing the podcast’s goal of bringing joy and connection.
FAQs
The speaker took 86,827 steps during the event, which is equivalent to climbing about 771 flights of stairs.
The speaker burned approximately 6,773 calories during the event, though they did not regain those calories the next day.
It took the speaker two full days to fully recover and move normally again after the event.
Running downhill to make up time was the hardest part, as it caused intense physical strain and made their legs feel completely exhausted.
No, the speaker did not experience intense hunger after the event, which was unexpected given the extreme physical effort.
The speaker wished they had done more long-distance runs and strength training, especially for quads and hamstrings, to better prepare their body.
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