Cree Summer, Darryl M.Bell & Cornell Young IV talk Spinning the Block, Gen Z, and HBCU’s

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Listen to Global Flow on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - I have to ask a question because the show touches on this. - Yes. - What do you guys feel about spinning the block on an X and going back to something or asking a favor from somebody who's an X? - What is a favor? - That's what I feel. - What is a favor? - Yes, it is a favor. - Let's say, let's say, let's say, that they're with us. - Come by the house, it's not a favor. - Yeah, it's midnight, come do me a favor. (laughing) - No, man. - Yeah. (laughing) - That is a favor. - Are you in a relationship? - Me? - No. - Oh, no. - Where would you start? - In the question yes, you are in a relationship. - Oh, you are in a relationship. - So yeah, if you have a significant other and you go to ask an X for a favor. - Do you tell your significant other, or do you just-- - No, you ask me, not me. - You know my answer. - You're talking to him. (laughing) - Me, me, me, me, yeah. (laughing) - I got to go home, right? - I can't war that, actually. - I don't have a new X period. - Uh, nah, it's probably not cool. If you're in a relationship. It depends, though. It depends on what your ex doing. Yeah, I'm saying, if your girl, like wifey, if she's like, oh, I really like this, like, I'm, we been looking to move and-- - It's getting done. - It's getting done. It's getting done. - This girl on Instagram, she'd be posting real nice houses and you lookin' like, I think it's the best way. I feel like if your girl liked the realtor, you know, I feel like, look. - Am I looking for a crib? - I don't really look at the crib. - If there's a lady or you just reconnected with her. - I feel like-- - Did not have her reach out for it. - Okay. - But then now they get messy, 'cause then-- - Yeah! - We like you know it, but I'm saying you could be honest. Like, if it's the situation, that's what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say, if it's the situation-- - Transparency. - Transparency. This situation, though, like, your ex is in a position doing something that you kind of need to go-- - Yeah. - A road you kind of need to go through. - Right. - I think that's okay, too-- - But it's a conversation, let me know, like, yo, I used to talk to her, or, you know, for a woman, I used to talk to-- - Look at that. - I've got realtor's as well. - That's what I'm about to say. - That's what I'm going to say. - Get some realtor. - It's only for realtor. - Oh, that ain't done. That ain't done. - This may be a difficult situation, because as a realtor, you wouldn't want your realtor talking to your wife about, let me show you to the man. - Let's go out the realtor. - I was trying to use you as a realtor. That's not the realtor. What if she's the president, you know what I mean? - I'm saying the president. - I didn't get pardoned. - I'm saying if it's a road you've got to go through, like, something, like, not, you ain't got to go through. - Take a detour, just don't go through this road. - But I'm saying if you had to, if you had to. - Like, I've been hit up by exists for concert tickets because I toured for a living, so I actually, they know that I get tickets. - But in my head, are they hitting you up? Like, because I don't believe-- - Oh, they probably be using me. It's fine, but I don't mean you don't-- - But let me shoot what I can do, and then I don't come too-- I know I can do it, but it's like-- - Right. - One of them telling us for my ex, like, nah. 'Cause then I gotta hit somebody up and ask them for tickets, and then I gotta tell them the name, and they can be like, who is that? And you gotta be like, I took my ex girlfriend. No, I'm not doing that shit. - So you, but you're friendly with your exes. - I'm only friendly with one ex. - Right. - And she has met my girlfriend, and they talk, sometimes I guess, maybe a little bit. - I work with my ex, but I still can't ask her for a fee. It's just that I think if you're in a real, honest, and goodness-committed relationship, I don't think anybody has to go back for any reason. I don't think you can justify any reason. - I agree. Just keep it clean. - Keep it clean. - I am a bit of an anomaly. - I'm one, I look for tempest. - I've never been in a really messy breakup. - That's what I was about to say, that's what I'm-- - So I have been friendly, generally, or in good terms with all of my exes, all of whom have gone on to get married and live with other lives, and I went to school with many of my exes. So at class reunions, we'll see each other, something like that. And we are friendly and may have conversations, but I don't go to them to say, hey, I need something for us. - Yeah, yeah. - Favors. - That's like, yeah. I can't let some of my wholesome over my head. That's what I'm at, man, too. It's like, you can need a knee-steer. Like, no, I don't want you to think about it. - But I love this. I mean, you wouldn't be friends with that person, still. - That's what I'm saying, man. - I was calling you to me, to me, to communicate you never stopped. It's like, or it never stopped, or it's just a-- I don't talk to none of my exes like that. And there's no problem. It's just that if you're in a new relationship, what am I talking to you about? I respect you enough that I respect your new man. - Yeah. - And whatever you got going on. - I'm in a band. - I'm hitting you for nothing. - A thousand percent. But I'm saying, like, if you, like, exactly like what you say, I'm the same way I don't end on a bad blood. - Yeah. - So I'm not texting you ever. We're not cool. - Exactly. - But what I mean is though, like, if there's something, like, if you need something, you hit me for it. Like, at the end of the day, you're a good person. I'll rock with you. I'll help you with this. And that's why it's first, like, I was saying, if you're in a position where it's like, yo. And I'm always with, I always make sure I'm talking to it. I'm with a woman who's like, very open to that. Like, knowing that, like, yeah, we cool, cordu, like, let's not, my best, I don't go to lunch with it and then like that. But like, you know what I'm saying? It's open to know that, like, yo, I respect you and then the day I'm never going to disrespect you. We cool. Like, yeah, I'm saying, so cordu, relationship. And if it's like something that, like, you work with something, we cool. Like, you said, you go to reunions, you chop it up. Then if it's like, yo, I do this, boom, boom, boom. And if we doing something, like, I'm doing a fundraising, you know this. And you can help sponsors, like, I'm gonna make that call for, for whatever it is that I'm doing. - For the cause. - For the cause, you giving themselves. - So that's what I mean. - Baby, I call it for the cause. - No, but I'm dog, but I don't like that. - What should we talk about? - I can't hear. - Oh, man. Oh, my God. Come on, man. What's for kids? - For the kids. - For the kids. - You know, Nelly, Nelly, Nelly, Nelly, Kee. - Why are future kids? - Yes. That part. - But no, but any healthy way, though, make sure that's all out of respect first. I think it's okay. As long as all out of respect, you know what I'm saying. - And as long as you are transparent about it. - Exactly. - As long as everybody knows, like, I'm gonna go have coffee or lunch and we're gonna sit down and talk and then you back. And that's what it is. - Exactly. It's just that I'm talking to you. - That's crazy. That's crazy. - That's still so. - I think it's tough. - It's so tough. - But again, because I'm the oldest, most of my exes have children and grandchildren, like, you know, it's just so much time is passing. - Damn, I'm thinking about me. - The exes grand kid. - You just need my grandma. - Right. - Yeah, I do. - I know a lot about her. - Yeah. - Yeah. But you didn't make me agree with you. - Everybody make me a real mom. - I'm a real mom. - I'm a real mom. - I'm a real mom. - I know several cats who have been out and been at the spot and hit on, like, a girl to club or whatnot. And it was, like, one of their exes daughters. - Oh, man. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Where you going? - Oh, man. - 'Cause you and the club are looking up to me, somebody. - Yeah. - You got that. - You got the club. - You got the club. - No doing this to speak easy. - Yeah. - I'm just going to be a graduate. - Yeah. - You got it. - Now when you're new, um, found notoriety, do you think it's going to change the dating for you? - I mean, things are definitely going to change. - Has it already changed? - Yeah. - Things have changed as far as how I move. Because I'm a no-man. Like, I like to just go to city. I like to roam. - I like to just-- - He travels alone. - I do travel alone. to just experience and be and be present. And so, you know, I tried to do that the other day and it was a little, you know, I'm trying to eat. - Where did you go? - Everything. Actually, I was in New York. I went to this fight, I'm trying to remember the name, somewhere in like Harlem area. - You went to a pop, you went to a Harlem restaurant as a nigga on the new different world. - He knew what he was doing, yeah, yeah. - Oh, everything I could do. - He knew what he was doing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Nobody's out of here. (laughing) - But, no, it was really, like, you know, again, I don't think about that type of thing. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm like, I already knew, I already know, for sure, now I do, I know, now, but, you know, I just live my life, you know what I'm saying? Like, acting is something I love. After I leave, I don't even think about when this coming out, how it's coming out. I'm just like, yo, I did, though, I enjoy doing the work, you know what I'm saying? Everything else is up to everything else. I don't have no control over that. And so, I'm just coming to get some good food, you know what I'm saying? I like to get out a little bit, and-- - They were, too. - And it was fun, but I was cool, and I went to, I went to the bathroom real quick. I'm coming out the bathroom. (laughing) - What do I do now, you can't leave. (laughing) - I'm way out the bathroom, and it's just funny. You just see, phone, like, following you, but it's trying to be sneak. You know what I'm saying? I sent out to the table, look up. Phone's, I'm just like, all right. It's a little different from me, 'cause I'm a proud, I like to be in the cut, even when I go out, I like to be in the cut in the restaurant. I'm just like the chill, man. Have a good time. I live in LA. - I live in LA. - You know what I'm saying? So I was out there for some work. - So much for the cut. - Well, see, that's what's so different. So we had an audience of 25, 30 million, which is, you know, exponentially larger than the largest audience you see now. - Yeah. - But they could only see us on Thursday. On the end of that, folks look at him all day. - Yeah, it's cool. - You know, it's just, everything is populating on social media and going around and folks tagging and sharing, and that's just so different. I can't imagine if we had to live in front of the camera 24/7. - That would have been so different. - Back in the '90s, you would have been so different. There are moments I would not have wanted on film. - Who are you telling? - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, I am, that's how you're doing. - Like, still, even now, like if somebody cuts me off, I go, "You got away with it." - All right. - Because I don't need that Tesla camera, getting me in the background, cussed him out. - Yeah. - And that being a store. - It's very different. - You can only get one episode a week, right? But there was something so magic about that. - There was. - When you think that everybody's gonna be together on Thursday. Everybody's gonna talk about it. - The cold new experience. - Yeah, it brought families together. It brought dormitories and fraternities together. I mean, that was a really lovely thing. Now we can just eat everything at once, right? And then you digest it, then you get rid of it, and then you move on to the next. - I don't know how much retention we have. Everybody's got the attention span of a fuckin' teet-seatsy fly. - Yeah. - And so it is hard to make an impact. We are number one still. So much, I have such little faith in the attention span of people. I made a move to me. We were number one in the green show. I said, "Are we still number one?" He said, "I think so." He said, "Let me see it." "Let me see for sure." Because people even watch TV like this, right? - Yeah, I've had to train myself to stop doing that, because yeah, it isn't an attention grab to just, it's so easy to look at your phone and then look up. And I feel like even now when it comes to shows, they think of that when you're watching. - 100 seconds. - It's like a second screen. - Yeah, yeah, your second screen. - You've heard about that, right? I think somebody's talking about Ben Affleck, or somebody's talking about writing, that you have to take into account that people are gonna look down, so you have to constantly remind them. - Repeat it, repeat the fly. - Repeat the fly. - It's like the constant thing. - I mean, it's a common reason. - Yes, it is. - It's crazy. - It's giving everyone the opportunity to be dumb, and. - Yeah. - I do it with challenges. - Yeah, there's a little bit. - I do it with television. I will watch second screen, so I'm on my phone, and if something like, particularly live television, but if I turn on a movie, I put everything down. - Are you guys on Instagram a lot? Or social media a lot? - I'm sometimes on Instagram. - She is the hero. - Yeah, I put us on Instagram. - I'm trying to get better. - I got two kids, so I. - Yeah, happy. - I know what I'm doing. - I treat social media like a street dog. You know, I kick him a little scrap every now and then. - Yeah, yeah. - I'm still on Mish 3000. They call me on Mish 3000. - No, yeah, because I still don't have. - She can't work at computers. - I can't work at computers. - But she jom blaze on Instagram. - Do you type like this on a computer? - I type like this with my. Sometimes thumbs up. - Oh man. - It makes my daughters crazy. They think I look like a soft shell. - They have a new feature that I'm launching on Instagram. Right now, we're soft launching. Like, I guess relationships though allow you a soft launch. Like if you want to soft launch your relationship. - It's a generation. Did you see that? - Yeah, he said, "Izexed out." We're like soft launch. - Soft launch. - What is that? - Yeah. Like, instead of just being like this is my girlfriend, you would like post a picture of like an arm. And so I'm like, what is that? - Well, they're making it where you can blur the first face. - An arm. - Is that the next part? Are you for real? - No, yeah, you can blur their face to start. - That's the first. - This is the first one. - Soft launch. - Soft launch. - Yeah. - We've been dating, but I'm not ready for the world to see his face just yet. - Slow integration. - Yeah. - So how much of him do you show? - I don't know. I think the only way you soft launch it if that's not your man or woman. - Yeah, if you're soft, we got a hard launch. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. - If you soft launch it, you can like-- - I don't want soft launch. - I don't want soft launch. - You check in the water real quick. - Yeah. - Try to see who knows how to niggas. - Y'all see each other too, y'all know him? - See you. - Oh, so you've soft launch and the people respond, like, we know him. - I don't think they could. - They could. - So you go Instagram official? - Yes. - So this is the build up to that. - It's like being on Broadway. - Trailer to music. - Look, right, you have your previews and then you have your-- - Yeah, yeah. - Work out the kinks. - This is all stupid. - Yeah, it's all dumb. I look. (laughing) - No one's in the box. - Come on man. - He's right. - He's right. - All the swipe left, swipe right? And it's so, it's so one not personal, right? It's damn they're not human. If a man wants to date a woman first, get used to rejection. - Yeah. - Start there. If a woman says no, say thank you, Queen, move on. - Come on. - And go to what's next, right? That part too, if a man is attracted to a woman, a man is supposed to one, prove himself worthy. That's the whole part of what Cording was supposed to be about. You're supposed to step to her. You're supposed to show that you have interest in her and that you are there to be worthy of her. The whole idea, I mean, even if you go further, folks, talking about if you wanna get into biblical relationships about women being a rib and whether or not a woman should submit. The submission does not-- - Let's go there. - The woman is not, the whole point is, the woman is not supposed to be submissive because she's junior, she's supposed to say, if a man has proven himself to be worthy of her, she trusts his decisions for her to feel safe with him that he can make decisions for her as her king, if you would. - That's beautiful. - And that's the point. So now when you sit here and say all of these sound like half-measures about, "Oh, I'ma show you a arm or let me put the toe ring up in there." You know, to see if I can give you a hint. None of that speaks to what really being about having a successful relationship that leads one, not only to marriage and children, but what black families should be all about? I'll shut up now. - No, don't shut up because you're-- - And his lady, Tempest, who have you been with for how many years? - I don't know how many years this has been. - It's been 30 years. (laughing) But I've witnessed sterile in this relationship and it's not that I didn't love you before, but the way that you care for Tempest definitely made me fall deeper in love with you. You are a beautiful partner. - She know I'm light-skinned, I'm start blushing and wasn't I? - No, he's a beautiful partner. - But I also want to bring up something Daryl's talking about, you know, this swipe culture that is not of us. I remember watching some documentary as a bunch of young white men. And one of the guys said, you know, I can swipe, I can go home and swipe and by the time I get to 70, someone's gonna come over and give me a blowjob. - I mean, that's just math. (laughing) - But not only is it math, but it's also just-- - I was joking. - No, you're right, no, I think you're 100% right. It is math, but it's also so disassociating. - Yes. - And breed so much apathy. And how does a young man who's developing feel about women if it is 75 swipes to a blowjob? Right? How does that, how do you feel? - The generation's communicator just so different as well. Like I don't understand a lot of the things either. And I'm, I say closer in age and I'm sort of be like, oh, but I think that yeah, the more it's through social media online, the face to face, the actual connection is going to die. It's just a different connection. - It is definitely. - It is, yeah. I wanna know how you feel about-- - Well, he's such a different person. - Yeah, he's happy to be like-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Really? - But you know, now look who you're talking about. - No, but real. Like for me, it's hard for me to date one of my age or one of the younger than me, just because of the disconnect. I grew up conversation communication. They even my parents, my mom, and you couldn't say, I don't know, you know, use your words. - All of them on the sound. - Yeah, because you do know. Even if you say, why did you do that? I don't know, you know why you did it. You had to thought of doing it when you did it. - It's sad. - It's like, I always grew up around older people. You know, my grandmother, that's for a lot of time. My grandmother and my great aunts, my great uncles. I was on a space table at six conversations. So for me, I grew up around We speak, we use words. And you express yourself a certain type of way. So for me, I've always, all the women I've ever dated have always been older than me. Just because of the self-esteem. - Yeah. - No, it's just real. - Hold on. - Hold on, man. - I've got a fan. - I'm just talking to any of you. - Yeah, I'm just talking to any of you. - I don't like when you start treating me a certain type of way. You gotta energy towards me because of something you were soon and you're running one in assumption. You didn't have a conversation. 'Cause now I'm dealing with something that I didn't cause. And so I would rather you, if you feel some type of way, which is human, you're going to feel things. Come have a conversation. You know, this made me feel like this. I wanted to know what was your intention or what. And I can easily have a conversation and we can move forward. But when you're just running as if I'm an enemy or something because of something you built up in your mind, I just can't deal with that. I don't deserve that, you know what I'm saying? Especially, you know, we all basically, we gotta work, we gotta work, we gotta focus on. That's one thing you don't need. It's something that you didn't even start a cause. So for me, I'm not saying it's not women in my age or it's something that, but it's just, there's a generation majority of them are. So fixated on, you know, this and that and look. And I don't know, I'm not with that. I like to go out and have a conversation and go do real life things. So for me, that's why I say that is. How does it feel to be on something that is so legacy based? Man, it's a blessing first and foremost. I tell them all the time. I just wake up a gratitude to even be a part of that 'cause that's one of my favorite shows growing up. This and Martin, I was back and forth. You know what I mean? Hey, how old are you? I'm 26. Yeah, so. Yeah, I'm a little bit older, a bit older. Yeah, I was 26. How is it working with, I guess, a younger generation? 'Cause you guys worked amongst your peers in the first time around this time. You like, you know, look back and forth. How is it working with these guys? I'm trying to hold it together 'cause we have grown to love them so much. Yeah, there are things. Yeah, you know. So I, who I know was the first to start calling me Pops. Everybody called me Pops. And so, you know, I don't call him Pops. (all laughing) I hope not 'cause that would be weird. You know, but for somebody who's 26 years old, it's different and they've all been great and brought so much energy and excitement because we're not number one just because of us. How's it going? Because of them too? That's right. Absolutely. But they love, they ushered us in and so beautifully, man, and the way they wrapped their arms around us from the moment we came in, it was like, y'all, y'all heard for a reason, take up space, you know what I mean? 'Cause we coming in, obviously coming into the legendary show, you kinda like, hey, we going on, you know, you ain't trying to-- Be respect. Be respect. We're not trying to step up at it like, nah, we ain't doing all that. Y'all heard for a reason it's y'all time, take it, you know what I mean? And just how much love they've shown us, how much game they've given us and as Cree says, we all hang out on purpose. Yeah. And so they make sure we get together for dinners. We talk, we have conversation. It's deep family ties, like I told me and Deryl, we watched a whole NBA finals together. Yeah, we get together, we get together, we get together. I'm like, come out of the house, it's NFL. We doing Sunday at the Cree, come on through. Exactly, fight night, coming up, like-- So it's beyond the camera, you know what I mean? It's real life family and I'm blessed to have met these people 'cause they just have such an impact on my life and the amount of time I'm known them. You know, it's just some people you meet just for like, we supposed to meet, we supposed to be. Yeah. And I'm so proud because Ron Johnson was the sexiest motherfucker who was there for so long. Oh my god. And now-- Talk your talk, man. That mantle has been put there. That's all. That's all right. That's all I'm gonna say. We were paying attention. Everybody was looking you in the eye. And we were reading books. Yeah. But the biggest difference is, I mean, I'm somebody's momma now. I've got two daughters, Brave and Hero. A.K.A. Shuck and Jai. Also the assholes and also the savages. But, you know, I didn't have babies. Now we've got children. We've got long-term relationships. We've got mortgages. You know, we've got real life now that we didn't have. Which, of course, brings some gravitas to the characters that they didn't have before, right? And also a big difference is, this is a single cam. We were doing four cam statues. That's great. I was saying that earlier. It was a shot that they had. I can't remember my name. I'm gonna feel so bad. Whitney's daughter. It's like an overhead shot. It's an overhead shot. And then it goes to another shot. And I was like, oh, they were on a multi cam before. So, what's the, like, I mean, that's a huge difference. But, is it like, you guys are playing a character you played so long ago? Yeah. Is it nice to like, is it like getting back into writing a biker? Is it more of trying to learn a new. Well, we've changed, right? Of course. And I think you can apply it to the characters too. You know, like, I mean, I know you feel it for Ron. I know for Freddie. She's settled in and gotten more mature. But then every now and then, Felicia's staff and the writing staff will give me a line that is so inherently Freddie. So, old school Freddie. And then you get to throw that in. And so you get to remind people that she's still got that little freak inside there too, you know. Which we love. But, you know, it's easy to settle in. And for me, with Ron now being a widower and a single father raising a young man on his own, until you lived as much life as I have, you don't have friends who've lost their wives who are single fathers. Yeah. So, I've felt that pain. I know what that's like. I know what their struggles have been like. So, that certainly informed the performance. And I think you see that between Cornell and I, our chemistry is real. But single camera allows you to be much more intimate with that. Then there's four camera in the live audience where you're playing more stage and bigger to laugh. So, that's different. Which is why this looks so beautiful, so cinematic now. And gorgeous. Yeah, that's fun. I do miss the live audience, so. Yeah. It's important. There's something about it that I'm just like, man, that's got to feel good. To say a joke that you know is going to hit in everybody's life, it can be like, yeah. Or when you walk out and everybody claps and cheers. Like, that old 90s sitcom of like, people clapping in it. So, I just stand there and bask in it. And being on stage, you felt like you were on stage. Yeah. And it did. There were lines that you knew hit before your show comes on. You're like, oh, that hit. I know. And here you really don't know what hits. Yeah. And that was always the great debate. So, with the writers, if there was a joke, they thought was funny. And you didn't. And you thought you had a joke that was funny. and they didn't, the audience always decided. - That's right. - Because you'd play it both ways in whichever one got the laugh would win, you know what I mean? And so that's something you can't argue with with a live audience and that's fun. But if you think of all of the great comedy films, there's no audience there, you know what I mean? So it could be one of both what. - The times have changed, you have to say. - That's what a lot of audience is now through some media and different things. Like how does that feel to be able to, I guess engage with the audience in a real time. - In real time. - Yeah, in real time to know how they're receiving the show. That goes for all of you, I want to know from you as well. - I know you was probably going to look great. - Yeah, he's like, the whole is going very great. - Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, he's got, he's batting the mom, you know what I mean? They're all over for a baby. (laughing) - For a baby. - I think, you know, I like to say, I just, I like to really stay away from it. Honestly, especially like social media and things like that. 'Cause it's a world that's unstable to like stand on. People who feel this way, one that they feel this way to another day. So it's about just like, what feels good to you? You know, at the end of the day and what feels, you know, natural to you and anything you do in your life, you know what I mean? Even outside of your creative arts. It's like, you got to make sure that you have the foundation yourself in your life and, you know, how to live and move and understand what the real love is. And that's, you know, your people around you. Tap back into that. - No, he's dangerous, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, There to be such a warm, he's such a beautiful soul, he's so thoughtful, he's so well-spoken, and he means it, he has the nerve to be earnest, and that handsome. - Keep that up to you. - Oh, God. - Give it up to Mama, Dad. - She's more nearly challenging. - Yeah, that's right. Cornel, and ladies, I'm gonna fuck with you even more. He's got a twin brother. (laughing) How does a mere mortal make it like? How does a mere mortal survive? - Yeah, I appreciate that. - I always say that, I appreciate that. I always say in life, though, you know, you never hand your hat on anything exterior. - Yeah. - It's all, you saw a guy, you're a person out of who you are, as a person is gonna take you farther any further. - Boy, he is. - He is. - He says, "Just in case y'all didn't know I ain't done." - I have a question for you, too. When you watch the different world, who is your favorite character, or who you identified with the most, do you think? - Identify. - Yeah. - Probably a wrong action. - Wrong. - Identify. - Yeah, because he was right, yeah. He was the goofy one who had to, like, you were the funniest one to me. I'll give you the first. - Any kiss the most. - Yeah, yeah. - And I was, yeah, that's right, my way of saying it. (laughing) - I was running and got girls, I was, you know. - Where are you? - Well, which one? - Okay, okay. - The funny one got girls, we got a good job. - Oh, okay. - I'm gonna ask them. - I'm gonna ask them all. - You gonna be both. - If the two things can coexist. - Ron did kiss everybody. - Yeah. - I set the record for the most women kissed. And now, the biggest thing. - Oh, on a show? - Yeah. - Yeah. - All time? - This is not real. - Yeah, is this real? - So, I think it is. - I think it is. - I kiss Jasmine, Kree, Charnel, Halle Berry. - I'll make your challenge, Charnel. - Put it, Halle Berry. - I wanna do the name, though. He just called him. - No, this is Ross. This is like a roster. - I wanna say Theresa Randon. - You did kiss Theresa. - Lisa Marie Todd. - Yeah. - This is great. - Yeah, I can keep going. It's a lot. - Okay. - I like the point. - I feel like personally, I've had two of these. (laughing) - Yeah, that was my burden. - Oh my God. - And in close to there. - But yeah. (laughing) - Somebody had to do it. - Yeah, I get that. - But it was, but you know, it was also funny as, one of the things as the show, the original show went on. And as Dwayne Wayne went from being, kind of a goofy nerdy character, two more of a leading man. - Yeah. - Cadeem was, all the women were falling in love with Dwayne. But Cadeem felt, Dwayne was losing his sense of humor. And his brothers would call him, say, you're not even funny anymore. Ross, the funniest guy on this show, like we don't even get jokes from you anymore. We get it from Ron, and he was like, I don't believe it. - That's it. - Well, you know, you get something else that's. - Oh, Cadeem is going to be pissed about this. (laughing) They go back and forth. - I think it was so weird. - I was just gonna say it was so weird. It was like college because Jasmine and I are like this. That is my soul sister. And we fell in love immediately when we met. And Cadeem and Daryl are best friends. And so behind the scenes, Cadeem was my boyfriend. That was my first real boyfriend. And he was making out with Jasmine all day. - We just talked about Dennis. - And then Daryl and Cadeem were best friends. And we were making out all day. So it was very weird. - Yeah. - It's very sister, brother, brother, brother. - Yeah, very. - Was it in the first shoot that you guys were actually you and Cadeem were holding hands still like within? Was that. - Well, we didn't date that first season. That first season, I was definitely in love with him following him around. But he had a lot of chicks. He was in, you know, he was in Dwayne Wayne season, too. So, you know, he was poppin', you know, but. - The traffic path. - Yes, the odometer was gating miles because it was true. But I just remember it started to happen. Slick shit started to happen, unbeknownst to us 'cause we were in love and young. And so sometimes the characters that have to hug or something and we probably do it in any program in a way or kiss in an inappropriate way. - I ain't no slitchy happening on set no more either. - The band, the band's catching, though. The band's catching. - I was watching it one night and yeah, you guys kissed. - Yeah. - And I was like, what the fuck? I remember me like so confused. I brought him to him earlier. And I was like, no, it kissed and it was confused. I don't know what was going on. And then I found that and I was like, no, it didn't make sense to me. Actually, that's what you were doing. You saw somebody you were in love with, yeah. Kissing, whatever. And you guys did it and just kept. - But yeah. - But you were mad. - So crazy. - Little Easter eggs that you don't know are going on. Tell 'em about the first time we had to kiss. I'm different world. - Oh, well. I felt the pressure. - I got so many on, remember that. - No, no. This one, who? This one, I remember, 'cause, you know, one, I'm trying to be professional. - Yeah. - It's my, you know, my man's girl. So, I went to the dentist. I got my tea clean. I had all my smell goods. I had the mitts, the water, the vaseline on the lips. You know, I'm ready. We get ready to go and do the scene. And I was like, Cree, we're ready. - Let's see. (laughing) - It's ready. - I see. - And it was on your phone. - She pushed out of this. - She put out an unfiltered cool. (laughing) - Stopped it on the ground. - It was so much. - Come on and get some honey. - Stop it. - Yeah, I was like, oh, damn. Okay, well. - And I think that's kind of our relationship. - Yeah, that's kind of, yeah. (laughing) - Where's your, where's your funny come from? - I grew up in Canada. - No, stop. - Stop, one, this is a voice over legend. - Of course. - This is the voice of over 700 voices. - Yes. - Mega, mega legend. - She's the voice. - Two, she is got the most ferocious wit. My name is Darrell Bell, but to her it's pontificus. (laughing) That is what she called me, 'cause I'm always pontificated. That is what she's-- - Oh, I'll say. - Shit, so she's dubbed that. But what she can tell you about those who are voice over savants like she is? - See, we're through in that savant, yeah. (laughing) - They improv in character, the dirtiest, raunchiest with all of the Swedish characters. It's like-- - Okay, all right. - Yes, and so, but that's where that wit and all that come from. She'll do it to you in 500 different voices. (laughing) Just like that. - Mm, exhausted. - Yeah, is there a voice that's harder to do than most? Or is it just like, it all comes to you? I feel like it's not-- - You know, every now and then, because, you know, I sound like a thousand miles of dirt road, Jack Daniels and Regret, you know? And I smoke copious amounts of cigarettes and weed. And so, every now and then, I'll do something that has to be delicate or soft, and that can come off like a sledgehammer. (laughing) So I don't get to play a lot of princesses and sweet girls. I'm usually the villain. - What's being your favorite? - Wow. It's like Sophie's choice, right? Because, but I would say, the very first cartoon I did, I was 11 years old, I played Penny and Inspector Gadget. And that is a favorite because that is what catapulted me. - Yeah. - But I love Susie Carmichael from the culture, right? - I did too. - And I love Foxy Love, De Foxy, you know, from drawing together just 'cause it's so nasty. - Mm-hmm. - And, do you remember that? - Yeah. - Wasn't that the best? - That was so good. - How many century, right? - Comedy Central? - Comedy Central? - Yeah, what a time. - That's right, when you could say it. - And that was the adult swim. - Yeah, you could say anything. And Princess Kita, the Disney movie I did with Michael J. Fox, because she was really the first black Disney princess. - Okay. - Yeah, from Lost City, The Atlantis. - I like the green in the name, that's my thing. - Green Eminem for 25 years. - Yeah. - The green Eminem? - I am. - Which, I mean, I did a cartoon one time. It was kind of tough, look. - Yeah. (laughing) - And people would argue, I guess, like, that it is a tough paying gig, like that I imagine you getting paid out there. - Oh, I do, okay. - But yeah, I'd say, but they would tell me at the time when we were doing the shows on Nickelodeon and it was like other than the SpongeBob voice, not many of you that can just retire from this in a way. What job, out of all those of you felt like, paid you the most, like that, right? - Oh, wow. Maybe, Rugrats, because we did it for so long, but that Disney gig was pretty good. - What was it? - I'm actually on a new show, right? I'm actually on a new show right now that wasn't bad on Netflix, with Brian Tyree, Henry, and Janelle Monet, called Bass Machina, which is Bass Reeves in an anime steampunk kind of setting. And, you know, the scratch theory is pretty good. (laughing) - Oh, and number five. - Oh, yeah, number five, I'm a kid, next door. - Back into doing it, right? - It was a legendary voiceover performance name was Don La Fontaine. - Yes. - And Don La Fontaine, he was married to a black woman. - Yup. - And he used to ride around in limo and he would just go from voiceover to voiceover gig. - Yeah. - Y'all probably haven't heard his name, but whenever you heard, just when you thought it was safe to go back into the wall. - That's Don. - That's Don La Fontaine. - That's why you didn't get to get it. - He did. - I don't know what that was, Darrow, that was a hundred. - I see it. (laughing) - I can't, I can't make my voice go to deep, bro. - I can't do it. - He's like, "I don't show a shot, dude." - I didn't get none of this shit. - Yeah, no, no. - I said, "Who the fuck is that?" - I said like, "Bane and Batman." - I don't know what he said. - I don't think that, like, "Bane, no." (laughing) - But he didn't know it's not. The name was not good. - But you know what I'll say is back in the day when I was on "Different World," I would leave to do cartoons. And they would act like I was on my way to go full close at the gap. It had no respect. It was like, "Oh, she's going to go do her little voiceover." (laughing) And at times have changed. Now it's finally being acknowledged as an art form. And it's not easy. Because you're just sitting there and you have to convey everything with your voice. You don't have a soundtrack. You don't have your body. You don't have sound effects and gestures and props. And so you have to make everybody feel something just with the sound of your voice. - I think, you know, it's funny. Eddie Murphy won the greatest movie stars of all time. But I think if you ask Eddie what his favorite movie's out to do, he's going to tell you, "Don't get killed." - Well, he killed Don't get killed. - Yeah, he's right. - I love rock. - I love rock. - He's so good at making so much of Don't get killed. - So much money. And he asked someone, "I still don't know what happens after he said, 'You cut me deep shit.'" (laughing) I have no idea what happened. 'Cause that just slays me. Every time I hear you. - You haven't heard the next laugh. - I don't know what happens after that. - I'm just, that just kills me every time I hear you. - In the morning? - I make it walk. (laughing) - That's so funny. (laughing) - Oh my God. - It's such a great character. - But don't love cartoons because they become real things. And when your kids, this is a weird kind of thing I experienced now that everybody knows who does the voice. Because there was a magic when we were autonomous, when the character's existed almost as real characters, especially for kids. - Yeah, they don't have. - You know. - You would never think it's an adult behind that. - No, you're not, Bugs Bunny, just Bugs Bunny. It's not Mel Blank. But now. (laughing) - Wow, that's legend. - Think about that. - That's right, that's right. - There's so many, I wouldn't have known anything. - Yeah, but now everybody knows everything. - Like from almost all the original loony tunes, Mel Blank did almost every voice. - All the voices. - Yeah. - And there's a secret, you know, that's why every character had a list for some kind of speech impediment. That was his way of differentiating the characters. I thought it was brilliant. - Yeah, I thought it was crazy. - Yeah. Cornell, you were born in 2000. - Yeah, yeah, I was. - Yeah. - Is that right? - Yeah. - Again, no, but this is what I'm saying with folks, look, we just 9/11, just pants. - Just pants. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And it's just amazing, like, he wasn't, you can't remember. - Yeah, no. - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. - That was a lot. - I was a lot. - He was one. - Yeah, he was one. - Oh, he was one, he was old. - He was old, he was old. - Oh, he was old. - You remember? - Yeah, he was old. - Oh, Bugs Bunny, I'm Bugs Bunny, yeah. - No school, he knows it, I'm out here somewhere different. - Is that a millennial? - No, but I was, that's what I'm saying. I was raised, like, my sister's a millennial. - That's right. - You were like, what is 14 years? - Okay. - And then a gen. - So I'm really gen, I'm really gen Z. - Oh, Gen Z. - Yeah, but I'm really, like, I grew up in a millennial. - Ray's like, you know what I'm saying? - And I'm from St. Louis too. I've even felt like people don't know, we was behind. - You know, like, real like, you know what I'm saying? - We didn't get, we didn't get Uber, they didn't get Uber to, like, 2018, 2019, like Uber been around. But he found out the Bulls won this week. - He found out the Bulls won this week. - You said, what? - Y'all found out the Bulls won this year. - I need to go invest in Uber and say, "Lewis," right now, this is like in a time machine. We need to go invest in Uber. - I'm being real. - And till I start moving around, I started seeing, like, no, people, like, other cities are way more advanced in us, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the way I came up was, I came up very old school. I was like, you kid, same type of boy, I got a key FI to open the door for nobody. Granny, you at the door, mom and them then tell me you was coming. I'm not opening the door, they got caught in them. Like, you know what I'm saying? I left my granny out there before like, mom and dad, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, I can open the door for nobody. They said nobody. Granny, you got to tell them you coming. I love my granny No, so I grew up very, very like traditional, like you'll send the right way as I say, you know what I'm saying. No, outside like I was outside like I was working the double from time The sun was up. I was outside. You had the beggars come back in. I'm on the porch. I just sit on the porch. Be like, I'm going to porch, talk to a fan all night. Like I grew up Like that didn't grow up with phones and devices like it wasn't the thing. I didn't get a phone. I was like 13 was like it wasn't like I'm saying I'm yeah, it's seen I was a little slide up. Look keyboard. It wasn't the social media I didn't do all that. You know, I'm saying to I was well in the high school. You know, you thought you connect more with millennials way more old Generation, that's why I'm always kicking it. I would I have much. I'm kicking it with them. I'm sitting at the table with them. Like I've always connected more to older generations So I was like so because we've been sitting this discourse online about if Gen Z brings an ice coffee to an interview I was going to ask if you connected with this like it's okay for you guys to bring ice coffees interviews. Have you have you seen this Asian? No, I don't know people. People are like just say hey, oh Gen Z thinks it's okay to bring an ice coffee to an interview. I don't know. I didn't know it was a problem. I'm not even. I'm not even. I'm not even but personally I would beverage if that's a disc. Yeah, I don't think that's a job. But we all sound like talent. Who was working? How? I would say personally I wouldn't bring one. I would already made sure I was good prior to come. I would already been. So sorry. I got like what's the first thing they do when you come in? Can I get you something? Yeah, drink. Yeah. No, thank you. I got my ice coffee. If we could do it. Come on. I'm not disagree with you at all. I have no problem. Again, I don't drink coffee. So I don't believe. I can't. Yeah, I met this candidate. Boy, they were qualified in every way, but that ice coffee fucked him. Yeah, he farted. So what water is okay in ice coffee? Like again, I didn't even start this. I never heard of it. But me, I don't think it's a problem. We're either one of my do understand. I guess how an ice coffee. I don't look like. It's a bunch of. Cool. We all drink coffee in the water. I don't. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Can you bring cocaine? It was this answer. No, no. I mean, not these days. Predicated specifically on an ice coffee, not like a hot latte. Oh, actually, I think that might make a difference. Okay. No bullshit. I mean, like I thought you came in with something like hot. I feel more like professor. You know, I mean, like it expires in like 30 minutes versus a ice coffee. It's like you can drink that shit all day. The ice still in there, but ice milk. Then you got nasty coffee. I still got cold coffee though. Some people like it water down. I don't drink coffee in the first place. I like good old Coca-Cola sometimes. I'm a tea guy. I could drink tea something. I like tea. I'm a tea guy. I'm not going to go to restaurant. I'm going to restaurant. I think it's a coffee day. Okay, first day. Oh, absolutely. I think it's perfect. Oh, I think it's the best first day. Thank you. I would say it's the best first day. That's better than dinner because you get stuck behind a hole. And then, you know, you got to finish it. You got to make a small snack or something. Yeah, but a coffee. - That ain't going well. - It's already paid for, it's so good. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You can even take it with you. You can't. - You can't. - You can go. - But I don't think coffee's, I took girls for smoothies when I was younger. - Smoothies as well. - Smoothies as well. - Yeah, yeah. - Coffee and a smoothie going a little walk, a little stroll. - Also daytime is always fun. - Daytime, good. - But this is, yeah, I agree with you guys. He's telling girls I was trying to actually, like, be with. - But yeah. (laughing) - That's good, that's good. (laughing) - But there is a difference. - Yeah, no, I like, he's like, he's like, "Oh, you must have got me." - She's like, "Oh, it's obvious, definitely, yeah." (laughing) - Definitely, yeah. - Definitely, yeah. - Oh, no. - Yeah, no, no, no, no. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's like a good update. - Let me make sure you wake up by it. - All right. - What's so anything like when you wake up? I don't know about, I don't know about any grump. - Yeah. (laughing) - Give me a set. - Or now. (laughing) - But it depends on the vibe too, because a lot of folks will tell you some of the best first dates are ones where you have to go skydiving or something, because when it's adrenaline and it's something that you're both in, it's not dissimilar to pledging or to being in the military, where you're bonded over this experience. So it's like. - Overtrawlin. - Yes, no, no. - Now he married. - So the first time. - We are married. - So if we get to the land. - He's obviously in there. - Right. (laughing) - Tell me you want 100%. - Yeah. - You got a lot finished. - All right. - A little bit elevated. The people you got second elevator, y'all would remember each other. - Yeah. - 'Cause it makes it more memorable. The incident that the folks just had on the plane with the pilot, they will all remember each other from that event. - TV never hurt nobody. - You know, I'm just saying that if you go, if you go through something intense together, it helps build the bond. - That's supposed to be. - Trauma ball, yeah. - Even a good hike can be intense. (laughing) A good hike is intense. - Yeah, yeah. - I love the trauma. - Yeah. - If they're complaining the whole way. - Something that's more active. - Yeah. - 100%. - I think anything free is a good person. Or close to it. - I agree. - That's true. - No, that's okay. - That is not true. - I don't even know you. - Right, exactly. - I'm trying to get to know you right now. Why would I be paying for stuff? - Somebody just said it. - That's a big thing online right now. With some girl, the guy asked her out on, for like, they went for a drink. She didn't order appetizers and meals and all of this and the whole time she was taking pictures and all of this and he said, excuse me, I'm gonna go to the bathroom and he did. And the bill was like 600 bucks and it came to her. She had ordered everything on the meal and he was like, I'm out. And he zeled her for his drink and like. - I think she should pay for taking pictures of the food. - Yeah. - That evaporates more. - You took her, that's different. You took her to a place that was expensive then you should be required to pay for that. But supposedly just for the drink though, she was the one that went in for all the others. - She still came here with you inviting her here. - She still came here with you. - She still is possible. - That tells me a lot about just, you know. - Yeah. - You as a person. He should have paid 'cause you shouldn't have brought her, 'cause you didn't even know her. - You asked her to bring her home. - That's your gamble. That's like if you bet. - Yeah. - What's it? - You did it for some reason. - And I like being treated. I don't like when someone asks me, you know. - Just split a bill. - No. - Oh, you should. (laughing) - See you then. - I'm very old fashioned. - I'm very old. - I could answer just the audacity. - To be like her. - What? - I've never. - But. - I can't, I can't. - You want to have to upgrade. - I've got to sit, I've got to sit on a blind date. - Here's half a conversation. - And I was like, you want to go get something to eat? She was like, yeah, how about Wendy's? I was like, mm, no. (laughing) We're gonna go to this place called Fuerello's. It was a Italian restaurant. Got there and, wait, it was like, would you like something drink she said, do you have Ryu Nidi? I was like, mm, mm, mm, she has Ryu Nidi. - Me telling. - And so. - They don't know Ryu Nidi. - I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was going with it. - I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I was like, Ryu Nidi. - Right. - He made a fucking Aegis, man. Ryu Nidi. - I made a wine version of Mad Dog 20. - Yeah, for sure. - Yeah, there you go. - Yeah. - It tasted the boy. - It tasted the boy. - It tasted the boy. - It tasted the boy. - It can be. - It can be. - It's like a pig malion. - Well, I don't want it to be. - I grew a broke. - I know it. - You know what I mean? I don't see things that I see or experience. - I agree with that. - Things that I experience. - So I think the face can't be in that area. - But you're talking about being open to something. - Yeah, 100%. - 100%. - I think she would be open to the wine. - If you were the offer. - Oh, no, she did. - Oh, she did. She enjoyed dinner. - And she enjoyed the wine. - 100, yeah. - But now you said some really important. So you said, I'm from the hood and I grew up broke. Do you feel any type of way about your success now where you don't have to live? - Do I feel any kind of way about it? - Yeah, right. So in other words, when folks, there's a lot of conversation about, don't forget where you're from. And if you grew up in the hood and you made it out, isn't that supposed to be the objective? - It is. I think it is, at least for me myself, I'll use myself as an example in this one. Even in Chicago, I have my restaurant tour as well. We were open in a space in Chicago. They wanted us to, they reached out to me like, we want you to open a space in Chicago. For me, I was like, I can't do that until I invest back into my community in a way. And then from there, I can open up this restaurant for you guys, right? So I'm building a community center in my hood. But for me, it's not like, it's your duty. It's my duty to reach back. It's my duty to make sure that I can impact and touch to people in my community in a way. It makes me feel bad. I feel bad sometimes within my good living. I feel like, damn, I wish I could do more. But never like bad about my own living. I'm the one. We are. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think about that. - That's right. - I grew up with no running water or electricity in a house made of mud. Literally, that my parents built. And I love that upbringing. - I think about it. - School bus? - We lived in a school bus. We lived nomadic. We lived in a horse stable. We lived in TPs. We lived at one time in an abandoned railway caboose. All kinds of different. - Yeah, yeah. - You know, I didn't start school until the fourth grade. And I dropped out right before the 10th grade. So I really have almost six years of formal education. But I do love to read. Varatiously. I devour books. But yeah, I think about coming from there. And I love it. Yeah. I think it's shaped who I am. - Yeah. - Like you said, you have nothing but fond memories. - For sure. - Yeah. And I don't think I was ever thinking about it in context of getting out. - But you know, it's even been a subject in a lot of hip hop of where you were from. But now you move to somewhere else. - Right. - Of course. - You're supposed to evolve in life. - And that's the reason. - The whole point of life is evolution. - Yeah, for some reason people who convince themselves that going like staying in the hood is like a good thing because - Yeah. - To someone else's reputation or like however somebody else feels about it. But that's like. - They don't love you. - Exactly. - Exactly. - It's like you gotta really pick what really loves you and treat yourself. Like you can't always run around doing things for other people. - Sure can. - There is things about being like selfless obviously. But at a certain point you do have to take care of yourself. - No, a thousand percent. But that's what most people do. - Yeah. - They live for other people. - For the validation for other people. - Absolutely. - Because they haven't validated themselves. They haven't had time to learn themselves. That's the biggest thing where I tell people they always ask me. I'm like, you gotta lead a hometown. And even if they don't, I'm not saying you gotta go live on the process. - Yes. - But get away and go find who you are. Because your whole life, you only know who you are through the perception of other people, the perspective of other people. They tell you like, yo bro, you call that this. Like you call that for like, you gonna go to lead, you know. And say your whole life, you think, oh I'm supposed to do that. Everybody said I'm called. I'm this, I'm that. - You get some real say something. - All the time. - And you told the same thing. - Exactly. And then you get to college and you realize like, yo, this is a life. Everybody called now. - Yeah. - And you start facing injury. Now people sit down and that's why you see a lot of athletes. They lose themselves. They lose them because they never found out who they were outside of the sport. They don't even know what they love or what they're into. And you know, and so that's most people in life. They don't know. And so most people stay. They steal. It's people. 67 years who never was able to experience who they truly are. And they live their life through everybody else's perspective. - Think that's like Hillman, right? Everybody wanted to go to college. - Yeah. - And then they individuated there. And they found themselves. - Exactly. - And lived a life they never expected. - Mm-hmm. - Right? I mean, that was one of the beautiful things about different world. Is it got you off your block. - Mm-hmm. - And gave you a vision of something else you could do. - Exactly. - The name I think is even involved with that. A different world I think is an important name that takes that show idea and like expands on that even. - There was a study that talked about when you hear people say in America, you know, in America this or Americans that most Americans will not travel to eight states in their lifetime. - Oh. - So when folks talk about America, they haven't seen it. - No. - As of right now, my number is 43. I've been to 43 of the 50 states. I have yet to hit Alaska. I haven't done North Dakota, South Dakota. I haven't been to Vermont. So I have been doing the main Rhode Island, New Hampshire. I think those are missing one other. - Damn. - So, and the standard is you have to be there. Not at an airport or passing through. You have to spend at least three hours. powers in the state doing something. And just to see what America looks like, to see what the other people live and what it really is about, and then push yourself to be a citizen of the world. How many other countries have you trapped to get the world's perception of what America is and see what it's like to live somewhere else where America isn't the central conversation. - I don't even know America, I feel like a lot of us probably feel this way. My brother just came home from doing 28 years in prison. And I know we've talked about traveling and different things. He wants to obviously see some things. - Yeah. - They can't really go nowhere. So I'm like, hey, we can hit up some states in America. Let's just travel together and see some states. If no, no, I haven't seen these things. And I feel like there's so much history here that's unactually seen or unpacked that I've probably as an American. We love to see sort of. Yeah, it's definitely a whole bunch of, there's a whole world plus to see. - I've been to 49 states. - Come on. - Or have you? - No. - The only good time in this last year. - Okay. - He said right. - Well, because I lived in no math life, my father used to always, you remember those checkbox when you had to say what you were, he would always scratch it off and write earthling. Because he believed he was an earthling, not anything else. - That's what he was like, yeah. - That's dope, that's fun. - And there's been this course a lot. I went to a HBCU myself, but there's been the conversation starting a lot of people saying, I saw one post. I was not only in it, but it's all one girl said, us blacks that went to a PWI. And from there, she continues to talk about the conversation, but she started with us blacks. All right, it was problematic for me, but. - Us blacks. - Us blacks is crazy. - Us blacks, yeah. - You are. - Wobblecomer. - She's an initial wobble. - Do you think a PWI? - It made me goofy the whole thing. I said right there. - They have me good time. - We gonna be friends forever. - Once again, I told you, you're so bashful. Yeah, good. - Do you think a PWI prepares you more than a HBCU could? - Absolutely not, it's a silly question, but it's not a new question. - Damn, that was my question. Is there all that? (laughing) That was a stupid question, that was easy. Not that you asked it for it to pose it, but there was an episode of a different world where Dwayne's best friend from home played by Ren Brown was going to U-Pin and was challenging him. - I don't know, Ren Brown, my whole life. - Yes, of course, Rindles everybody. - Oh, my heart. - Riddish and. - Love them and the kids. So, it's not new. And this idea of that, if you go to an HBCU, the very thing that students love so much about it is that you are surrounded by folks that look like you, that is somehow an artificial world. And if you are going to succeed as a minority in this world, you need to know how to navigate in spaces where you are not comfortable with black folks around you all the time. That's supposed to be the argument. Given that I went to a PWI at Syracuse University, 15,000 students, 800 were black. You couldn't tell us we didn't go to an HBCU. We had all the D9 organizations, I pledged Alpha, we partied together, we ate together, we were around each other. When the different world cast came to Syracuse, when I hosted them, could even say, we're all white people at. Everybody came to our bed, they were all black. And that was the experience, right? So, the idea not only about socially, is one, there's one institution favor the other, but from an educational point of view, it is always suggested to try to say an HBCU education is somehow deficient to that of a PWI, which is just not true. And I tell everybody, why is it that Matt Damon could get a superior education to Harvard in a public library in Goodwill Hunting? But if you go and apply yourself with PhDs and college professors at an HBCU, somehow your education is gonna be deficient, stop. I mean, just stop. Most of the black engineers, lawyers, doctors come from HBCUs. And it is just a complete red herring that somehow, if you go to a school because there are more white folks there, that somehow that's gonna teach you how to better educate yourself. It may teach you how to better deal with white folk, 'cause that's the only differentiator. But that's not about the education. And that's not about your being compared for life. - Get them. - Darrell. - I'm one of both, so I'm a PWI too. But what I've noticed, 'cause I spent a lot of time at HBCUs, I was turned up home coming with two lit. But I spent a lot of time there, but I would see, I would see in black people how much more confident they were being at the HBCU, 'cause they weren't being instilled by so much love, by people that look like them, for them to be able to blossom in a way that was different from a lot of PWIs, where I feel people are more robotic and sheltered and step on eggshells a little bit. Due to their environment, where they feel like they can't be fully themselves, and they got to be a certain type of way. So I always admire that. Even when you meet somebody at HBCU, they always say like, I'm from the pristine, I'm from you feeling immediately. I went here. You can just feel that energy in them, and I always admire that and always like that. - I don't get that from people who went to PWIs, except the athletes. - Yeah. - So every time the athletes enough, - I play D for them to be from V, you, you know what I'm saying? - But it's something they was proud of. - But everybody else, they got an economic degree, like, oh yeah, I'm gonna be the universe, man. - Yeah. - Thank you. - But if you tie it to something they were proud of, something they was with, like you said, when you went to the Ohio State, look what that is in football. - Yeah, right. - It's something to hold, and it's something to be like, yeah, so again, it's that similar thing, you know what I'm saying? - Fortunately, or unfortunately, Syracuse football ain't been good since Jim Brown. - Yeah, they ain't been good. - They ain't been good, yeah. - Sorry, Jonathan, been mad at Joe Morris and other football players. I'm sorry, I'm just trying to backtrack my, my dissing my school's football team. - I have a question. What do you guys want this version of the show to show people? Now with modern technology, with where we are in life, where the world is, America is, what do you want a different world to show the world now? - Ladies first. - Oh, you're going on later. - Earthlings first. - Earthlings first. - Earthlings first. I mean, the same thing that it did before, you know, I still feel like representation is so, the disparity is so great. And I think there's just a legitimacy in being seen, and what the original different world did was remind everyone that black people are not a monolith, that we are so many things, and that you could be Ron, her Freddy, or Whitley, or you could be, you know, could be anybody. And everyone at home saw themselves represented, and I hope that this show does that again, because when you see yourself, is when you start to think of all the things you can be and do, mm-hmm. - Love that. - I literally took representation. It's so important, and especially seeing the relationship between the generations and this continuation and sequel, I think is very beautiful and important, because, you know, there's a disconnect, and we always say that, but to see, you know, for us to have the disconnect, but to get through that, again, in conversation, and finding common ground and understanding, and just being able to see a healthy, healthy relationships throughout, you know, and healthy does it, you're gonna still see the ups and downs, but to still see the love and to see how everything ties together, I think that's beautiful in family, but, yeah, again, it's a new generation, so it's a different world from a different world, to see this new world have people that they can connect to, and to see on screen, I think is beautiful, and still, as she said, holds that importance from the original of what people connected to so much, and that was to be able to just see themselves, and the characters that we have, so, yeah. - I am thrilled that the first show was revered for all the subjects in conversations we had, and if you think about all the issues we talked about, they were so varied and significant, gun violence, racism, education, health, all of that, to put all of those back in front of the world through the prism of black eyes is spectacular. The fact that folks get to hear our community talk about things that matter to the entire country, but it's coming through the prism mostly of a young black men and women is extraordinary, and the fact that just like our original show, this show is being shepherded again by the incomparable Debbie Allen, a black woman, but also Felicia Pratt. - That's right. - Another black woman, following in the strong tradition of Susan Fales Hill and Evet Lee Bowser, and also this show has Gina Blythwood and her husband Reggie Blythwood. - And starring a black woman, Malia Moonjoy. And there you go, so it's spectacular to see that for what's old as new again, when the original came out, people questioned whether or not America would be interested in hearing from this small black house and then became the number two show on television. For 39 years, people doubted whether or not a different world would even be relevant again. It was not easy to get this done. We didn't wait 39 years because we just wanted everyone to beg us to do it. It's because folks thought, I really don't know. In no shade, but there are other shows that had reboots that were not a top five rated television show. Oh, we could fire Shotsy on fire, Shotsy on fire. I'm trying to be what our peers are not always and that's kind of our work. And our work earned it. And it took a while for this to come and to see it be received at the way it is. It's so gratifying because what it's attempting to do, which is exactly what the original did, put young folks out in front and let them talk about what matters to them. Yeah, you guys, you guys have been impacted so much. You're not going to meet so much in my childhood. I went to HBC because of you guys, I feel like. But so, let me just-- Damn, that happens to us every day. It literally is the gift that never stops giving, that someone will say that to us every day. And that matters. That's a legacy that really matters. Yeah, I went to college because of you guys. What a beautiful contribution. Yeah, yeah. What did you go to? I'm Margaret State. All right, come on, Bailey. I love it. Only for a year. [LAUGHTER] I got to part out, y'all. I got to part out. I think I know, yeah. Yeah, I think great for me. I said it. But I did get a hoodie for a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to the gift shop. Well, I want to say thank you guys for coming. Oh, thank you guys for having me. As a huge fan. And as a new fan of you, I always say perspective is so unique to each and one of us. And so sharing your perspectives with us is so important. And hearing yours has been important to me today. And to steal as well. So I want to say thank you. And congratulations to all you guys and new success for you and more success for both of you. Watch a different world. It's great, y'all. Thank y'all. This is great. I hang out with you guys on Perfect. What happened? What happened? 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