Couples Therapy with Patricia Kalember| Ep 62 | The Crew Has It

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You know, we had a little bit of a past. Yeah, and I. And you left me dolo. Yeah, you know, I was kind of nervous. I'm like, damn, my boy's alone. I don't know what kind of turns this could take. You know, the animosity in the room could be high, it could be low. Who knows? You know, it's a kind of a gamble, but you got through it. I did get through it. I knew you was going to get through it, though. I did. I knew you. The last one to the airport buys breakfast. Buy breakfast. Day one, day one. Force is in full swing right now. Force is going crazy right now. So, Mike, I need you today to introduce who we got. Yes, sir. Because I did the brunt work last week, so I need you to introduce who we got. Yeah, you was on one last week. But listen, we got a very special person here, you know. A character that she plays very crazy. And honestly, she kind of rocks with me, though, you know. Like, she took me under the wing, kind of. She's like, you're not that kid, you know. But I see what's, you know, I see what's going on. I'm like, listen, no, you don't see nothing. But listen, we got Patricia Caliber in the booth. Thank you. We got Patricia Caliber in the booth. Oh, it's such a pleasure to be here. I know. So, we've talked a bunch about having you come on. And we haven't been doing episodes in New York a lot. So, now we finally got you. And it's the perfect time because Force is on. Episode five. So, yeah, I want to get into a lot of, like, the power stuff. Because that was a little before my time when you were doing the scene. When he was 12. Right. So, I want to get into that. But obviously, we want to start from the beginning. Okay. Because we always do. You know, how you got into this profession. Oh, Lord. All of it. I always wanted to be an actor. But I just never auditioned for anything. And then I was going to go and do law at Vanderbilt University. I had accepted. I was doing pre-law. And at the last minute, I did the school play. I played Miss Adelaide in Guys and Dolls in a really bad blonde wig. Yeah. Last musical I've ever done. And I decided to go to Indiana University. Like, boom. And do theater. And that was it. And then you were just locked in. And that was it. And I got lucky and I worked. Nice. Yeah. And then, so you already lived in New York or you moved to New York? No, I moved to New York. I moved from Indiana to Philadelphia. Because I went to Temple University. Oh, I love Temple. Yeah. One of my best friends goes to Temple right now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Philadelphia. Loved it up there. And then to New York. So, it wasn't so a huge, you know, move. But I was talking about, God, I had a two-bedroom apartment, two-bedroom walk-up on 19th and 8th Avenue. For $600 a month. Damn. Which is like $6,000 a month. I know. I mean, okay, it was a walk-up and there were roaches and water in the kitchen and stuff. But you used to be able to like. Two beds and two bathrooms for $600 a month? One bathroom. But, yeah, $600. It was rent because it was rent. That's a miracle, though. Yeah. Yeah. No more. Did you struggle a lot? Like, did you go through the actor struggles of like the waiting jobs? Like all that stuff? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because I. You know, I didn't go to Yale. I didn't go to Juilliard. And so I really. I waited tables. I did a soap. And then finally, I met my husband because he was directing She Stoops to Conquer. And he had seen every actress in the city for the second part. It was with Nathan Lane and Tova Feldschuh and Kay Ballard. And I said to my agent, if you don't get me more theater auditions, I'm going to find somebody else. So before I walked in the door, the casting director. The casting director turned to my husband and said, this is a favor. And I. Wait, you heard it? I didn't. He told me later because I walked in the door. He auditioned me and then he turned to the casting director and said, that's the girl I'm going to marry. What? I'm telling you. And that's the way he's doing this. And how, like, how did he shoot his shot? He didn't cast me. Wow. That's actually smart because. Yeah. He didn't cast me. And I ended up getting another play that, like, did really well. And we got together after that. Wait. So did he reach out to you or how'd that happen? No, he didn't. You know, he was directing at the time and then he called me back to another play he was directing, even though I wasn't free. And then he came to see me in the play I was doing and he was so nervous. And I was like, get in the cab. Just get in the cab. And that was it. We just. My face is red. I'm blushing. I love that. I love that. I put my glasses on. So what was the first, like, TV thing that you booked? And, like, you started. I started seeing a little bit of. Attraction? Yeah. Oh, gracious. God, the things I've done. I kind of feel I'm the zealot of television because, like, if you name somebody famous, I'll be like, yeah, I did that TV movie with them. Or my friends who are like, you're an actor? What do you do? And I'm like, oh. Yeah. I'm not famous, but no. But you've been in everything. Flip the dial. Flip the dial and I'll have a story to tell you about, you know, whatever, so and so. But 30-something was probably. 30-something was probably the first one. You're too young. I looked at IMDb, though. I know. You're too young to know about 30-something. You can say a show that can. You'd be like, Euphoria. Michael's like, I think I heard that. Yeah. He'd be like, Game of Thrones? You're like, what do you watch now? What do you guys watch now? What do you stream? I don't watch anything. No? You're an actor. You're burnt out. My attention span just sucks. And everything, like, nothing, like, that I try to watch, like, keeps me droning. Like, yeah. Really? Except for, um, I was watching, um. This new shit with Idris Elba. Departed? Or Departure? Oh, yeah, yeah. Apple TV. Oh, Apple TV. That shit was fire. I love him. I'm looking forward to the next season already. I finished that shit mad fast. He's amazing. If Michael finished that, I gotta watch that show. I finished that shit like this, bro. It was fire, bro. Okay. It's, like, full of a bunch of plot twists and everything. So it kept me, like, drawn to the screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Certain things, I'd just be like, uh, okay. How's your mom? She's good. She just left yesterday. She did? Yeah, she just left. You have to tell her hello from me. Yeah, she's coming back in a week, she said. She's coming back in a week. Yeah, yeah. Okay. She loves Jamaica. She don't want to leave. I don't blame her. She's like, I love America. Yeah. I don't blame her. Yeah, yeah, I don't either. I wish I could live in Jamaica. So how did you get started? Have you told people the story yet? Yeah, our first episode, Michael and I. You talked about that? Yeah, because our first episode was just me and him. But she wants to know, though. I know. But I'll tell you. Did you do theater? I didn't do theater. I was a hockey player. No. Yeah, and I grew up in Rhode Island. Oh, in Rhode Island. In Rhode Island. And then. Okay. Since I was really young, like, I don't know, 10, 11, I was so crazy and out of control that all of the. I'm feeling that energy from you. For sure. I am laced at all times. That's why we get along so well, because we're both laced. I just feel like we're not actors. We're just like guys who just got on TV. Yeah, we're shot. But I just always was like an entertainer, like making people laugh, everything. So I would say crazy stuff in the hockey locker room, and none of the kids would get it. And the coaches would, like, swivel their head and be like, what did this kid just say? So they would all. Like, people would tell me, but you should do entertainment, you should do this. And I was like, no, I'm a hockey player. Like, I'm not doing any of that. And then as I got older. I'm seeing Mighty Ducks right now. Yeah, yeah. What do you make of Mighty Ducks? As I got older, everything was, like, pushing me towards doing this. And then on my 19th birthday, I literally just drove cross-country and did it. God, good for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't know one person. I literally just figured it out, and then. Wow. Here we are. I know, I'm in awe of you, too, because I look at you, and there you are, 21, and you started a production company? Yeah. When you were 21? He was 21, I was 25. Okay. Yeah. Okay, but you've got this going, you've got. Man. Yeah. You gotta hustle, baby, you gotta hustle. I think it's fantastic. It's fun, because, like, it's not. It doesn't ever feel like work. Like, this. It rarely ever feels like work. When you talk to them, it's just like, oh, another day. Oh, okay. What's the hardest interview you've done? I'd say for me, the hardest was Scarlett, because there's not a, like, she. She's a New York rapper. Right. And she's very new, so there's not a lot of, like. Like, people have years of history. And was she shy? She was a little shy, but she was great. Yeah, she was amazing. It was an awesome interview. Honestly, it turned out to be one of my favorite episodes, because, like, I expected it to be a lot more, like, contained than what it was, and then it just ended up just being, like, a fire conversation. We had a lot of fun. It was amazing. It was, like, a little point in the interview where she just, like, started asking me questions. She was like, why you did this? Why you did that? It was so funny. That clip went viral. Yeah, it was fire. It was fire. But it was hard, because, like, usually I go back and I try and see some stuff, but, like, her. She's brand, like, fresh, like, brand new. new so it's like not a lot of background okay and how often do you have to answer questions for your character to the fans oh as you every day because i mean i've got to say because we like we have no say yeah i'm like listen they made me do this yeah it wasn't my choice but not just that i like any actor that says to me my character wouldn't do that i have absolutely no respect for because it's like actors are us we you have to work to justify because the end of power when i like told joe i don't ever want to see you again i get that was so hard for me because i can't imagine anyway it was really being a mother and doing that yeah but i had to figure out how to make it work you know and that's what we do yes yeah we recapped for 10 weeks which those episodes went crazy right um we recapped uh season three i'm so is it four or three did we just aired three no we shot all right bro it's everything's up first we just shot four we just aired three yeah we we i remember that we recapped three every week and not like because we were recapping we had to go back and look at like what the fans were saying about the episode and this and that every week michael and i were like not our fault it's like listen we're just doing our job yeah it's a funny thing we always say we're like we're like if if we just deliver the drugs and brayden doesn't accidentally drop his phone tarik doesn't uh i'm trying to think of some bullshit you did this season there would be no show yeah yeah if everything just went smooth all day everything was perfectly fine as much as we wanted to be so smooth it just would be no show yeah you know drama will be no conflict yeah should be ass yeah so and you wouldn't have to happen yeah exactly yeah you know bullshit has to happen guys but sometimes we will see a script we're like i really this really they're gonna hate me for this i really gotta do this which he's got the the mvp of that oh oh man people were on you they were ready to take you on bro back in back in like the original power i read the scripts and i'm like man they about to hate me for this one and i'm just like fuck it let's do it yeah but then i've been reading lately that you've completely turned that around put the script on and how cool is that straight fly it's still a select few that kind of that are mad about you know you're not gonna please everybody yeah you know you can't make everybody it's not gonna happen it happened honestly i'm not gonna lie courtney is so good it happened immediately literally it was one episode in the ghost season one and they were just like tarik did this because his dad was abusive everyone was like yeah we're just like i'm done all right we stand with right they showed him like running around school and doing having to do all this stuff and they were like you know what we feel for him he loves his mother and it and it switched immediately i'm like courtney's so good at what she does exactly yeah once she like once she made it easier for them to understand like the the reason behind tarik's like pre like prior actions and stuff and like the reason he did things and she just brought it to the forefront everyone's like okay maybe he did have a reason to do what he did right i mean i'm shocked ghost didn't call you junior yeah you know what i mean it had that same kind of vibe it was like so narcissistically attached to his kids his wife his lover his you know yeah it's great it's fascinating what so so when did the power audition come across and like when when did all that happen when did you meet joe like i want to i want to hear all my gosh all right so i came in and read and then they wanted me to come and do a call back with joe or like a chemistry yeah just like and we just started that was for the pilot it was for the pilot no i didn't come on till like the third episode maybe okay or the fourth um and then we just started improvising and courtney tells the story she goes at one point i was like sitting in his lap you know what i'm just like so wildly inappropriately attached right to my boy and that's kind of where they got it and that's good yeah that's where they got it wow that's where they got it and isn't that nuts and costumes too i was like i remember saying to frank frank i want you to think 15 55 and he's like what are you talking about i said 15 from the back and 55 from the front and he went oh my god yeah and you know all those crop tops right like your stomach's hanging out right just like wildly wildly inappropriate loved being able to do that yeah it's the best and frank's the best yeah love being able to do that yeah so so you you got the call that you got it so i got the call back yeah and then i got the call that i had to dye my hair red oh so you're you're not natural i'm not natural well so that all that red hair stuff was already in the script it was already in the script wow it was already so i had to dye my hair red so i've spent years going back and red i'm lucky i have a hair left in my head yeah yeah yeah yeah but um no that was part of the deal she wanted her to be this like irish crazy and the deeper we get into it now i'm like especially over the last few episodes about you know aa and where she got it and i was thinking a lot about my mother and you know leaving a baby behind and and i think there was just crap that happened to this poor woman and her mother never believed her and yeah she just went and took to the pole and said fuck you all and yeah you know so so when when the when the power stuff started happening um what did they give you for information about your character and what did you bring yeah nothing right yeah nothing right storyline as far as like i mean i literally got the phone call and said they need you for four seasons i'm like oh great like and you have a son and i went okay and then i had to get on the set to ask the director can i have a timeline like when did i have the yeah yeah and how is this because event because you know and eventually you all figure it out but no storyline right yeah storyline storyline is like yeah it's like yeah which is kind of cool because it's like life right i don't know what's going to happen right i can't plan for what's going to happen in six months so yeah i kind of like that too kind of like not really like knowing the expectations of your character but kind of knowing like their place in the story and kind of what their like what their purpose is in the story kind of it's kind of like gives like a little room of just like all right i'm gonna just play around like i'm gonna just play with this and just see what i'm gonna figure this out because when you kind of know exactly what like would um what they want to deliver with the character it's like all right now i'm kind of like stuck to this one kind of like formula for this character but when they just kind of leave it open for you it's just like i bet yeah 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after the reveal yeah everything you know revealing yeah always after after yeah it's not the power universe if there is a reveal every episode. Exactly, or somebody dying. Yeah, or somebody dying. Or somebody dropping. I know, I'm getting a lot of that right now because I, like, got sober. I'm getting a lot of, oh, my God, Kate's going to die. And I'm like, I don't know. But nobody knows. None of us know. So in the original, what was your, what was the favorite scene you've ever done? Wow. Anytime I would get to, I think the scene with Holly, when I got to meet Holly for the first time. It's so funny, Joe said that yesterday, too. You know why? Because there was, like, a competition. Right. My thing was, like, you think you're close. This is my boy. You think you're close to him, watch this. Wow. Yeah. And that was a lot of fun. I mean, anytime Joe comes to play, you know. Oh, yeah, for sure. He comes to play. 100%. And he brings his A-game every time. And if you're, you know, and he, I don't know. I don't know about you, but I like working with people that like to play. Like, you don't know. Yeah, for sure. Where you're going to end up by the end of it. I like being a predictor. Right? We have a, I love doing this, but do people hate it? We have a character in season four, next season, who is probably the most unpredictable person Michael and I have worked with. Unpredictable in what way? Just, he was crazy. Like, literally as an actor, he's crazy? No, he's a great guy. But, like, as an actor, you never know what he would do. You never know what he's going to do? That's cool. He's a great character coming up in season four. But he was so fun to work with. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, that's. See, some actors don't like that. Yeah. Yeah, I like it. Because if it's too planned. It's like, bro, don't be scared, bro. Like, just, like, do it. Like, I hate when the actor's like, oh, you don't mind if I do this? Bro, do it, bro. Yeah, no, do it, stop. Don't even ask me, bro. Yeah, dude, just kiss my mouth, dude. Just kiss. Oh, sorry. See, I don't know about that. Now it's like, you ask me, ask me, can I do this? And now I'm going to be expecting it. Yeah. And now it's just not going to be like, if you catch me off guard and I'm genuinely caught off guard in the middle of the take, it's going to look so, like, it's going to look so fire. It's going to look like a film and theater in that when you're filming, you want to capture that moment that you got in the rehearsal. You were out late last night. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I love these guys. We were. You're so young. You guys are so young. I see Michael pick up the bottle of Don Julio last night. I was like, Mike, we got three podcasts tomorrow. He goes. I think I was, like, asleep by 10 o'clock last night. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. I was going to sleep at 7 o'clock. No. No. Thank you. I was going to sleep too late. 10 in the morning. Oh, I love you guys. But anyway, the difference between, I had to segue, is that you have to rehearse three weeks in order to get those flash moments and be able to recreate it on stage. But for film, I don't like rehearsing. Do you guys like rehearsing? I like running lines. I love running lines. Rehearsals, to me, like, it depends, though, because some rehearsals, like, you know, obviously you got to block them out the right way. You got to be able to, yeah. Yeah. Like, that's really all I care for is, like, blocking. But I don't want full out. Really? Fully. No. No. I want to wait. Yeah, you want to keep stuff in the bag until it's really time. Yeah, that is true. That's what I do, honestly. Like, when we're rehearsing, I read the lines monotone as fuck. Like, when we're, like, reading lines, I'm just, like, I'm monotone. Well, I remember the last thing we did was when you came up with, you know. Yeah, with the gun. With the gun. I was like, damn, got to do this to Mama Kate. That was in season two of Ghost? No, that was three. This was last season. Yeah, last season. Yeah, yeah. That was three. And I still don't know how that's going to turn out. Oh, yeah. Handing the letter and all that. I have no idea. Yeah, it's going to be crazy. But, yeah, it's like, in rehearsal, I always give it, like, 25%. Because it's like, if I give you 75, and I only got 25 more percent to give you after rehearsal, what the fuck? Yeah, but don't you think you have to be able to be with somebody who's willing to play then? Oh, yeah, of course. Because otherwise, it's like, you get completely. Yeah. They got to be able to play, of course. You know, blown. Yeah. And they got to be able to, like, you know, handle the, like, the, you know, the unpredicted shit. Because I don't like that planned out shit, man. Did you have any wild, improv, like, unplanned scenes in the original Power? God. Oh, there's always. Yeah, we do. We would, you know. I mean, Joe and I would just keep talking into the camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you motherfucker. I think just stuff that would, when he's pushing me, usually out the door is when we just end up, you know, talking all the time. I think, I think the one recent scene. I, he closed the door and I left my purse inside. So there was like, I need my fucking purse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking asshole. Yeah. Muttering outside his door. But, you know, I don't know if that ever gets on camera, but we have fun doing it. Yeah. Sometimes you surprise what makes it and what doesn't. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Always. Yeah. Always. Wait, this made it? And that's the difference. And that's the difference also between theater. You're your own editor. You know what I mean? You don't have to depend on somebody choosing certain things. I give my, I take my hat off to theater, to the theater actors. Every chance I get, every time I get to say this, bro, I don't know how y'all do it. Oh, really? I don't know how y'all do it, bro. I would be. You'd probably really love it. I would shit my pants on that stage. No, I bet you'd love it. We went to Into the Woods with, you know, Patina Miller. She plays. Oh, I know. I know. Oh my God, she's so good too. Did you see her play? I've seen her on stage before and I've worked with her before. And then when she played rock, I was like, holy shit. She's incredible. Michael's, Michael went like, he was sitting next to me. I know. And she comes out and does the whole number or whatever. I know. And Michael just goes. Isn't that crazy? And looked at me and went like this. I went, I know. It was crazy because I'm like, I haven't seen a lot of what Patina's done in like in the past. Oh yeah, I know. So like, obviously like I know a lot of, you know, rock. Like I watched Raising Cane a lot. So I'm like, yo, she's dope on Raising Cane. And then to see her like step into a whole different body, like Into the Woods is like crazy. Like that's a different type of like bad. She has a whole. And wasn't she filming Raising Cane while she was doing that? Was she? Patina was filming Raising Cane in. No way. Doing Broadway. Doing Broadway. She only couldn't do one day a week. Her understudy would. And she was training for a marathon. Yeah. Like Patina. I have to tell you, I worked with her briefly on, was it Madam Secretary? Oh yeah, she did work on Madam Secretary. Right, she was on that. She was on there for like 10 seasons. And I remember her saying to me, it was like 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock at night and she was going to go work out. And I went, where are you going? Yeah. You're going to the gym now? She's insane. I can barely handle one day of podcasting and she's over here doing marathon plays and shooting a hit show. Talk about a work ethic. But I have to say, people that sing Broadway, I got a special bow down for those folk. My whole family, all of Brayden's family, like Corey was in Jersey Boys who plays Trace. Yep. My mother, Angel, she is on Chicago on Broadway. She's done a bunch of Broadway stuff. Bro, they're all Broadway actors. And it's so funny because they're all on set because they take it very seriously. And I take it very seriously as well, but I have a different approach to the work. They're there. They got their lines. They're like this and that. And I'm pulling up, listening to music. Me and Mike might be a little bit late. I'm just pulling up to the set like, what up everyone? I got everything on and they're just like, this fucking kid. And they're just all preparing this and that. That's just not the way. No, wait. What's my line? Let me get some signs. I was like, where are the signs at? Yeah. Then you see the slow burn off of the side. Yeah, but that's how I work better because if I'm so, like Brayden is so loose. So that's what we were just talking about. If you're super prepared, it's not as much fun. Right, right, right. Not for film anyway. Right. But they're so great. They're such great actors. You're in trouble if you're not prepared for theater. You are in deep. We do too. We've got like Chicago actors and a lot of stage people. Over on Force. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Joe was telling me. Adrian. But I met them all because I went to the 50 show in Chicago. I met your writers. You guys have the greatest fucking group of people. Obviously, Chris, Isaac, I know. Oh, I know. We are so, seriously. Like, you know, the women, we all get together and we have game night. Yeah, fire. Fire. We don't do that much anymore. It's just me and Mike outside. Everybody's just like. Everyone's just like. Because half our cast is like married now. Everybody's engaged and married and shit. Right. All the girls are like engaged and married now. Okay. Me and Michael cheat. Uh-huh. It's just. Well, we were talking about that. He's like, don't put that on me. I don't cheat. No, we were just. He was telling me about this before we were rolling about. I don't cheat. I know. I heard. No, Michael doesn't cheat. I don't cheat. I take breaks. Then I come back. Is that how that works? Are you on a break right now? No, no, no. Right now, I'm out the game. I'm chilling. Like, I'm, you know. Okay. Just so you know. No break. No break, no nothing. It's just vibes. You know, just chilling. He's the funniest person. But like, you know. I wish people knew how funny he is. He's really the funniest person ever. We don't cheat out here. That's one thing we don't do. That shit is corny. Yeah, I would never do this. Well, I do think people, like, you're either a cheater or you're not. Yeah. And I think if you're a cheater, that's one thing. But if you're not, you're honest about it. Yeah, you know. You're up front. And if you are a cheater, you got to be honest about it, too. I agree. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. And then if you're honest about it, it's not really cheating. Because then at that point, you're just like, yo, this is what it is. That's the loophole. That's the loophole. And at that point, it's just like, she got no choice but to really accept it because you're keeping it 100 with her. Don't you think it's got to be, like, mutual, though? It's got to be discussed. Nah, but me and Mike have a very hard stance on this. See, my thing is, like, I can't get with that. Why? Because my thing is. I can't get with that because, look. Now we're doing Mama Kate now. I want to know. Yeah, look. Because now you get to have an experience. I was having a conversation with Shorty. Yeah, yeah. And now she starts thinking she could do the same stuff that you're doing. Oh, oh, oh. It's only one way, then. I mean, with me. I mean, with me. Oh. Listen, listen. Okay, it's a double standard world we live in. It's a double standard world, but here's the thing. Me and Michael have this quote. Okay. When a guy cheats on you, he's horning. He's horning. When a girl cheats on you, she's not in love with you anymore. Well, that's kind of true. Yeah. I'm afraid that's true. It's a sad double standard. So, I got to say, I got to say, human sexuality is wide and frequent. Yeah. So, you're going to find some women. 2023, human sexuality is different now, though. Yeah. It's different. Yeah, but your generation is different. I know. Shit, crazy. I know. People do a lot of stuff. I'm like, what's happening these days? Shit. All up front. Got to be up front. Shit getting scary, man. I don't know. But, yeah, it's kind of a one-way street with me. That's so funny. All right, Patricia. I was just, never mind. I was going to. No, it's okay. I like. Okay, go ahead. I like these little tangents. They're fun. They're fun. Joe told me, he's like, you guys are going to have so much fun with her. I was like, yeah. What you about to ask, though? What you was about to ask? Do it? Yeah, I mean. No, I don't know. I was just going to ask you about, like, what would you, like, would you search out somebody who's cheating on you? Like, would you go through her phone? Hell no. What you don't know won't hurt you. Okay, good. So, you're secure in that. Yeah, no. If it's brought to my eyes and I see it right there, you know, evidence, and I'm not looking for it, then I got every right to be like, what the fuck? But if you're going to look for something, looking for a problem, you're going to find a problem. Yeah. I'm not looking for no problem. How old are you now? 23. That's really, really mature. Me, I'm like. I'm trying to get there, you know? Me, I'm like, give me this bitch's laptop. I'm like, what the fuck? Why were you on this website? Who are you getting on eBay? Yeah, especially now, man. Especially now with, like, Snapchat and everything. Yeah, everybody's so accessible, though. So, it'd be hard to not really be like that, but it's just like, at the end of the day. It is. It's all there. But even, like, in photos. I ain't trying to hurt myself. I ain't on that. Even, like, in photos, like, sometimes you see a girl, like, a photo, you're like, what she like? Now, you got to understand, though, because, like. Oh, you mean, like, why did she post something like that? No, no, no, no. I don't care. She can post whatever. Oh, okay. But, like, liking dudes' photos, you're like, mind you, like, that, like, what's the point of liking that dude's photo? Yeah, you got to understand, though, because, like. Oh, who's his friend? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, especially, like. How come this guy's commenting all over your post? Right. And you, and you, and you. All right, yeah, something wrong. Because girls, because girls don't, look, look, because girls don't like niggas' pictures that they're not really, like, you feel me? Right. Okay. And they don't comment back to niggas that they're not really, you feel me? Okay. So. All right. That's, that's two red flags right there. All right. Two red flags. Yeah. And would you break up with somebody right away if you caught that? Um, it depends, though. It depends. Like, I mean, a like, you know, like, I'm not going to break up with you over a like. But, see, the thing is, the like, I'm nipping that shit in the butt because the likes turn into other shit. Yes. And then it starts trickling down into a whole lot of other shit that you don't want to deal with. And now it's just a bad situation. So once the like is, no, we're not doing that. Do you know what I think? I think, actually, we need to have a podcast about, like, everyone's dating life. Yeah, I think so. And love life on power. Gianni would do amazing. I think we need to start talking about that because all your, all the, all the women on your show are engaged now, right? Yeah, man. Except for Paige. Paige, you're doing the right thing. Okay. Don't do that. Don't, don't be in a rush. Like, you know what I mean? All right. I'm going to be 28 soon. But I also think your generation, man, it's, it's, it's so different. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to trust. It's hard to, like, confide in people, bro. Like, it's over. It's over. You got to just find your favorite one. And then whatever happens, happens. You just got to expect it. You got to pray for the best, prepare for the worst. Oh, see, that's me. Isn't that terrible? It's terrible, but that's how you got to be. I know. I, I, I hope for the best. I hope for the best, but, but prepare for the worst. Yeah. I'm the opposite of that. I get told I'm, see, and I get. I'm like, everything's going to be great. Nah, I hate that. And I get told I'm pessimistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, I'm, I'm like, yeah, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic, but I'm just realistic. Like, people are going to be people. I call it being realistic, too. Yeah, and I'm not putting shit past nobody. Wait, how old were you when you got married? 27. Holy shit. 28. I'm trying to get married tomorrow. We've been together almost 40 years. Oh my, and it's been, and it's been just easy, or? No, it's never easy, but it's been, we're lucky, is what it is. We're just really, really lucky. I need that, too. I fell in love, but now I don't know what's happening to me. No, you know what? It's an, it's an open negotiation. You've got to, you have to continually rewrite the contract. And you've got to want it. Yeah. Like, bad. And you've got to know nobody's going anywhere. Right. Like, we know, I know he's not going anywhere. I just broke my mind. No, you're okay, you're okay. I know, you know, and he knows I'm not going anywhere. So you, you, like, it's. It's sort of like being in prison and tied together. Did he not, like. To have that confidence. Yeah. What I'm interested about. Is that, like, if you, like, obviously he's a director. Yeah. So he's around. He's an actor, too. Okay, amazing. So he's around hot women all the time. Oh, yeah. And you, obviously, are around, like, actor guys who probably want, you know. But I'm not a cheater. Right, but I'm saying, like, at the beginning of your, yeah, at the beginning of your relationship, was it hard to, like, for the first, like, five years to be like, he's going to go direct. Yeah, I mean, there would be, like. He'd be doing a play, and they're, you know, this relatively famous actor who's all over him. And I'm like, oh, you guys are getting really. Yeah. Close there. And then I'd just shut up. I'd try to shut up. Right. Because you, you just can't. You can't be jealous. You can't. You can't. Can't. Yeah. Take note. That'd be jealous. I need advice when we get off this podcast, because I'm going through it right now. Are you? Yeah. A little bit. With the show. Okay, you didn't tell me that before we started. God, you guys are bugged out. I'll wait for you. You guys are bugged out. Sorry. Because I want to get into that, because what's going on with you? I did, too. I just don't know where it is right now, but it's the first time I ever got a girl flowers in my life, and I've had two girlfriends. Okay. Yeah. And where is she? In L.A. Okay. And why did you buy, why did you buy flowers? Oh, okay. Yeah, let's get into this. Let's go, man. I slept over at this girl's house, and we just vibed immediately. Oh, that's nice. I've had a crush on her for a little bit. That's also nice. But we just vibed immediately. And then all of a sudden, I got her flowers. I was like, damn, bro. Wait till you start spelling her name out. I brought her J's in a bag. I'm like, bro, I'm bugged out right now. Getting the nails done. I already did that. You saw that, my close friend. I see now. I'm like, oh, he's turning into something different. Bro, I got to stop. You know she got you when you start spelling her name out in the flowers. When you go on the website, you spell her name out. What do you mean spell her name out? You get a box of roses. Oh, yeah. You feel me? And then it's, look, look, the outside is like red roses. Is that your go-to? It's not my go-to. I did it one time for one in short. And how'd that go over? She loved it. Of course. Yeah. She loved that one right there. It was a good one. But yeah, like, you feel me? It's like the outside is like red. Nah, Michael's elite with that. Michael does a lot of elite stuff. Yeah. Because when we lived together, we lived together last year. He's elite with the women. Okay, wait a minute. When is your birthday? September 22nd. Okay, when is your birthday? May 27th. Oh, all right. You are both on the cusp. Yeah. I'm about to. I'm like a Virgo Libra. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. What's the craziest gift you've ever given or gotten? Gotten. You know what? Everybody's got different love languages. Right. And I am, unfortunately, acts of service. I'm one of those. Like, I'll clean the gutters in your house. Really? I love that. Yeah, me too. I love that. My sister, my son's girlfriend does that. She's, like, amazing. That's a good love language. Yeah. That's just like. Acts of service. Yeah. Yeah, that's just. What's yours? I'll cook you a great meal. You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what's yours? No, you like special gifts. Yeah. I don't want to say that's my love language, though. Because, look, my thing is, my love language is like this. It's quality time. Quality time. Because I could be doing anything in this world. Yeah, that's my husband too. Like, honestly, truly and honestly, like, hanging with some of these girls, driving my car fast with my friends. Nine times out of ten, I want to drive my cars fast with my friends and hang out with a girl. So, if I choose to hang out with you. Oh, well, you need quality time. If I choose to hang out with you and I give you my quality time, that's my love language right there. And I'm into you. Okay. Because I could be doing a whole lot of other shit right now. Okay. But I'm going to come chill with you. Okay. And I'm going to come. You feel me? So, yeah. That's part of my love language. It's a lot that goes into it. No, there's always more than one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's, like, the most one. Because, like, I could do a lot. Yeah. I could chill with you today. Okay. For X amount of hours. Multiple hours. See, and it's good to know each other's love, like, because you can, you know, you can understand. And now that I'm getting older, I feel like these days be going by so fast. Like, I feel like these days are, like. That's because you wake up at fucking 1 p.m. All right, bro. But still, though, like. My youngest is the same. He's still like. I feel like I got fucking eight-hour days, 12-hour days, bro. I don't got no time to do anything. Yeah. But, yeah. Quality time. What would you say your love language is? I. I'd say I like physical touch. Like, I like, like, when she's, like, rubbing my neck or, like, you know, like, there's just something about that that I'm like, oh, I love physical touch. Y'all know the next time you guys go out, you're gonna have somebody coming up giving you a back massage and shit. Bro, this is, like, the most open we've gotten about anything on a podcast. Oh, God, sorry. No, no, no. We don't care. This is fun. I tend to go there. No, it's good. We like it. I like it. Because a lot of the stuff we talk about on the podcast is, like, people want to hear the power stuff, but, like, people want to hear what makes Michael Rainey tick. Okay. No, no, no. Michael, can I tell you a story? You remember the last read-through? Remember we had the last read-through and we were all taking pictures? Yes. Yes. Okay. And you were. How old were you when we did the last read-through? The last read-through. Were you, like, 17, 18? That was the last read-through of season six, you think? Yeah, I was. Yeah, I was, like, 18. So there you are, you're standing next to 50 and we're all in a group and you go, hey everybody let's power power three and I'm like, Michael you do know that's a white power sign You didn't, do you remember? I do remember that Because you thought it was like season three Don't you remember this is the beginning of the Trump administration and all those creepy guys were like flashing were like flashing the white power sign so I just said, Michael that's a white power sign and 50 without like missing a beat goes, how do you know? How do you know? How do you know? And I was like, dude 50, no, really, I'm just like it's the Stephen Miller sign it's the, anyway I was like, oh shit I was like, listen, I'm just saying I'm glad you remember that Yeah, yeah, yeah Nah, 50's hilarious He's like, how do you know? Okay, so Michael, what's your love, what's your physical touch? Yeah, what else are we gonna talk about? I would say that too, physical touch I like playing in the hair Okay, how do you guys feel about the whole like, there are women in your generation getting work done already It depends what it is for me I mean, I feel like every girl has their lips done which is fine, like, I don't mind that but like, BBL, I mean I love them, I'm not gonna sit here and cap on the pod, like I love a good BBL, but like Oh, Michael? Oh my god, what is BBL? Brazilian butt lift That's how all these girls look in like these coke bottles It's like fat transfer They take the fat like right here and put it in your ass No, I know what it is, but I just never knew the abbreviation Yeah, BBL Yeah, I mean, listen, to each his own, you know, you wanna do stuff to your body you do stuff to your body, you don't wanna do stuff to your body it's alright Well, and the only reason I'm bringing it up is because you were talking about natural and you were talking about, you know, being able to touch them That's different So I was just curious to hear what you feel about that You know, I mean, you know I like, obviously I like natural, but if you, you know, you wanna do something to your body, you do it You know, my oldest son, I talk to him about this all the time He's like, you know what? Everybody's gotta do what they gotta do Gotta do what you gotta do Whatever you gotta do to make yourself feel comfortable with yourself Yeah I'm for it There you go Self love I'm also like, I'm so oblivious Like, this I don't really give a fuck We might have to cut this, but I'll literally be like hooking up with a girl and I'll just be like, you know, whatever, grabbing on and then I'll be like, I won't even like think about it and she'll be like, they look real, they're real They look real, right? And I'm like, what do? And she's like, like my boobs, like they feel I was like, I have no idea Wow Like, I never know See, and I would not have brought that up Yeah, right? It's like Yeah Why? I don't gotta say anything about it You don't gotta say anything Because I think they think you're thinking about it So they watch So they wanna bring it up first before you say anything And I was like, oh, I didn't even notice No, I would keep that Like, there's a girl who I know from the UK and like, such an obvious no joke now that she said it and like, I went up to visit her and stuff like that but like, I never even thought of it until she was like, yeah, this was pre-no's job because she wanted to say it but I was like, oh, I didn't even like realize but then now that you look at it, you're like, yeah, that's obviously a fake no Like, I'm so oblivious to any of that stuff so none of that even matters Don't you think somebody, yeah, you should be oblivious I got the skin, as soon as I look at the cheeks I know if it's a BBL or not Yeah, that's a BBL But no, those are shots Wait, you need pants on or pants off? What do you mean, cheeks? Either or Damn, dude, you got the eyes I got the heat sensor You know, like the thermal Somebody's gonna come and take you boys away right now I got the thermal sensor Our podcast dad Dave isn't here today so that's why we're kind of wowing out a little bit Oh yeah, in fact, sorry Dave Here's what it is, you didn't make it into the office today so the boys are just bugging out Oh man So we'll get a into a little force stuff and then we can go, I kind of like this, this is a lot of fun I like having you here She's like, yeah You need a feminine, you need a female take Yeah, that is true So when you saw that all the spin-offs were happening, were you like I'm immediately gonna be back, or were you like Oh, I don't really know Oh, I had no idea I was hoping Because you've been on Ghost and Force So what was the first call that you were coming back I first came back on Force Or did I come back on Ghost? No No, they talked about me on Ghost They spoke about you, but you didn't come back Which is kind of nice You're like, I'm there Actually, you know what, David Walton said this, who played my uncle He's like, I'm there, but I'm not there No, they talked And then they called me to come back on Force which I was really happy about And I was really, really happy this season that they've given me something They've written for me, which has been great And you've got to actually show Because it's tough, you go on a show You do a couple scenes, and then you're like, that's it But you don't get to show what you can do They're giving you some fucking awesome stuff They're giving me some really, really great stuff And Kate, God bless Kate's always fun I love Kate But why? That's what's so funny I mean, the woman is a crackhead Two kids out of wedlock She's an ex-stripper, but man It's so funny, because you couldn't be more opposite of who Kate is But it's fucking so cool It's so cool to see, because you're just You're not that, but you just effortlessly flow into that Oh, thank you No, I love her, I really do What's your favorite role you've ever done? Is Kate up there, you think? Oh, Kate's right up there Kate, and I played a really horrible character no one liked on 30-something And I really enjoyed that character, too So you like playing the horrible characters? I like playing away from me Do you know what I mean? I could get a phone call tomorrow and do Uptown Upper East Side Right Matron, and I just don't wanna Yeah I just don't wanna do it anymore I don't wanna do, you know I don't wanna do another Karen Yeah, yeah You know? Have you felt like, because of Kate you've gotten a lot of, like, those kinds of auditions because you've played that before? Even though maybe you wouldn't have gotten that before You know what? I don't know It's really interesting, because, like Power was the first gig I ever did because I've done a lot of TV Yeah And I walked in on day one and the makeup department was mostly black and the costume department was mostly black and the crew was it was the most diverse experience I've ever been in and it was like, "Wow, this is the way it should be this is very, very cool" Yeah Because I lived in the HBO world of, you know And the Broadway world, it's so white It's so, it's just a whole different thing and so, for me, it's been fantastic Yeah And I don't know if you feel the same way about it, but I don't know if I feel the same way I mean, that's kind of just, like, who I am anyways Like, I, it's so funny I'll probably cut this, because But we were talking about this last night Like, I went to, this is rapper Conway the Machine and he's, like, such, like, a hood He's, like, a known OG And, like, we were in the green room Like, a hundred dudes Everyone in there was just, like, smiling And it was so funny A guy, Garrett, who works on Raising Canaan He, we were driving home and he said to me last night He was like, "Hey, bro, you just, like, vibe in there" Like, because everyone, everyone loves the show So everyone just, like, accepts me anyways Yeah, exactly But, like, I feel more uncomfortable at a country club than I do backstage Tell me about it But that's how I've been my whole life Yeah, I know Like, it's not a new thing People think, like, I dress like this, do this because I've been on power Like, this has been my whole life No, I grew up in a country club And it's weird how Brayden is so similar to who I actually really am They say the right role finds you at the right time Oh, that's cool It's so identical to what I've, I've been through in my life Yeah This is actually, this is a funny true story I, when I was in high school, my dad used to do business I still talk to his son because he's actually a great kid But my dad used to do business with this, with this lawyer And they had a house in Martha's Vineyard So I went, his son invited me out He's like, we're all going to go to the house in Martha's Vineyard So I was like, oh, great Martha's Vineyard is amazing I went there and I was like, okay, I'm going to try and, like, dress like these kids Like, because they went to this school called Moses Brown in Rhode Island It's like, it's like a private prep school And, um, they all were wearing, like, boat shoes and Sperry's and, and, and, um Packies Yeah, and, and, uh And, and polo shirts Yeah, vineyard vines Yeah, yeah, vineyard vines Yeah, yeah So they're all wearing this And polo Right And unironically wearing Unironically, so I was like, I was like, I'm going to try and This is a, like, I swear on my career So I'm, I'm with them and, like, I just, I'm, I'm wearing their, the clothes And I'm like, okay Clothes of your people Right, right And then, so then, I'm there for, I'm there for three days I go back to Um, Rhode Island And I'm staying the night at his house Because we were going to go out that night And I call my mom And I was almost in tears It was a true fucking story And I was like, can you please bring me my clothes? Like, my, my space jams are in, in the bedroom Like, I was like, you need to bring me my clothes Like, I did not feel Like, like It felt weird, right? Bro, I, I, like, I felt, like, uncomfortable It was like an out-of-body experience I was like, please bring me my J's I'm like, the fours are under the bed I need to enjoy this I need the G-unit T-shirt You know what, what is it about That you have to assume things about About people by, by that You know what I mean? I mean, I feel like we all do But, like, everyone The second you walk into a room You look at someone And you assume something about them Yes And is it their job to, to, to break that assumption? To disabuse you of that? Or is it your job to find out Who that person really is? Right I get it, I don't know Nine times out of ten You think you're right? Sometimes, you know, that's a good question Because I'm very confident Because, like, it's been multiple times times where I looked at a motherfucker And I said, yo, that motherfucker's left-handed And they turned out to be left-handed That's kind of spooky So I feel like I got that good intuition I think I'd be knowing something Yeah But yeah, I was like I could literally look at someone and be like Yeah, they're left-handed Really? Yeah That's interesting That's the way of my life Only about that, though? Only about, like, whether they're left or right-handed? No Look at me, I'm like the claw You're like I mean, no, not even that Like, even, like Even just, like, the way somebody dresses, too Like, because I'm a believer in, like What you wear, kind of, like You kind of express yourself by, like What you wear Well, that's true I love that That is true I know, don't you see the Drake shirt? Yeah That your compatriot is wearing Like the grassy shirt Yeah, you feel me? So it's like, I don't know I feel like I'd be on point sometimes My intuition would be good But the left-hand shit When I really debunk that I'm like, wait I'd really be knowing If someone's left or right-handed Something's wrong with me Have you gotten along with every director's Oh, I probably shouldn't ask that question either Never mind Who has gotten along with every director? I sure haven't Yeah I sure haven't And what were the I mean, like, on a personal note I always make sure, like Anyone I'm working with We're, you know, we're cool But sometimes, you know When it starts to When you're starting to work Sometimes, you know Head is just bumping It's just like I know you're going for this But it's like Is it more about, like Like a take on the scene Or is it more Like a personality thing? Yeah, I'm gonna say both Because, like, sometimes We get directors that are kind of new to the world That we've been, you know Building Yeah, that we've been building for ten years And they come and tell us something That's so inaccurate And so off-point It's like I understand what you're trying to You know, what you're trying to bring to life But, like, according Like, you know, going off of What we've been building for these For this amount of time It's like, that doesn't really make sense It doesn't really add to us Our story I'm not saying it takes away from our story But it doesn't really add or make sense So it's like I don't think we should do this And then sometimes, you know Some people just be adamant on what they want You know, it's like their work So it's like, oh, we want this See, and if you're a guest director I just think you need Yeah, you can't You can't really be like that You can't really be like that I don't think you can step on toes like that Yeah You gotta really respect the world That you're stepping into Absolutely Especially a show that's been going on For ten plus years It's like, alright You gotta, you know You gotta I had a friend say to me Because I would do I had a friend say to me I did Orange is the New Black for a while Playing Natasha Lyonne's mom Yeah, yeah, yeah Also a horrible mother Horrible mother I can totally see you as Natasha Lyonne's mom Oh, horrible mother That's crazy Just like completely Just surface and narcissistic Horrible Horrible And it's all about her And what her daughter's doing to her Anyway But yeah, I had a director Who did quite a few of those Who said to me Going directing An hour of TV Is like going to the gym As a director It's like it's not really his vision It's not really or hers It's like going to the gym And working out for a while And getting it in But you don't expect it to be Right Well, because with television There's already a blueprint There's already a There's already a way That the show's shot There's history There's always history Right There's already There's a way that the show's shot There's nothing new, yeah There's seasons of storyline Before this But as a director of the film Of a film That's your vision That whole thing is yours That little thing You wrap it up in a bow That's yours Whatever you do with it So directors with film Is so much different Than directors with television Because there's already a blueprint That you have to follow You just can't come And start doing these crazy shots Because it won't match What has happened For the previous ten years You gotta match the tone, man Yeah You gotta match the tone So yeah I mean, there's been some directors But like most of the time Honestly, like we've We've gotten some great directors But Yeah, we do too No, we've had We've had some really We've been really lucky Yeah Through our disagreements You know, I love every director I don't think I haven't had a problem Yeah Even if it was a disagreement We got to, you know We fixed it Yeah, I mean And plus I'm not carrying the show So it's a different You guys are carrying the show Joe's carrying the show It's a different It's a different thing I get to swan in And be funny And cry And go home Have fun What's your favorite episode Of Force this season? Oh Is it out yet? I'd have to say Three I really Where they had me Like really, really dig down And figure out why And what I've done To the boys You know Yeah I love stuff like that Where they kind of like Dig deep in And they go back into like Why is this like this Why is everybody like And that's what I And I got an instinct too I said, oh, I had a bad mother I had a bad Nice Fucking mother And then you just follow that instinct And went from there And they did cut They had one scene where And Shooter Who I loved Wonderful director Had me going into a liquor store And You know Panning And then just buying A pack of gum And going home So they cut that And instead went To the ice cream Which was also kind of sweet Yeah And actually that was Joe Joe came up with that line Thanks to the ice cream Hey We improv Yeah, we improv that And my answer was just like Yeah At Edward Jones We believe rich Is about taking care Of what gives your life meaning That's why your financial advisor Personalizes your plan To help you preserve your progress And create something That lasts Let's find your rich Edward Jones Member SIPC Yeah, this is some of the best moments, man That's cool But there's some stuff coming up That's nuts Fire Nuts This season's been crazy It's been This season's been crazy I was thinking back of five And like what happened In one episode And I was like, whoa This season's been crazy I was like, shit Dad's gonna be fire It's gonna be fire I've been excited I got some fan questions for you And then we'll get John out of here Fan questions Oh, okay I love the fan questions I feel like we haven't done this in a minute I know because We haven't had any power Yeah, and we've been kind of all over the place But Okay The fan questions are fire This is the first one All right, so Brown Jessica 21 asks What's been the hardest scene to film On power or force? I'd have to say the scene where I think Tommy killed Ghost And I lay into him And tell him I never want to see you again That was the hardest scene That was the hardest one for me It's heartbreaking That was heartbreaking That was just hard Because I also, like I hated doing it It was such a beautiful scene too, though Because you see, like, Kate Like, Kate's love for Ghost too Like, that's her son too It's like That's the only way I could find my way into it That's the only way That's like, damn Yeah That was a fire scene That was hard And then also the one where I think That they killed my grandson Yeah That was a little crazy Yeah Yeah What was your favorite scene? What was your relationship with Omari? And in your mind, what was your relationship Like, with Ghost growing up? Like, did you watch him at all? Like, I'm curious Yeah Well, you know what I'm saying And then did that actually affect What's happening now? Was really Yes, because it speaks to who Kate is As a human being Right Because anybody that's actually My biological child I'm going to think as shitty as I am Right Right So I can make a hero Out of him Because he's not from my blood Because he's not from my blood But the narcissist in me Is going to be like You fucking loser You're just such a fucking loser Because that's how you feel about yourself So that That's cool Yeah That's such a fire Yeah Yeah That's tight That's what that's about Wow I love that Yeah Yeah But so you Did you have a lot of scenes with Omari Or a couple? Not many You know, there were a few Yeah I love Omari Yeah Such a nice guy Yeah Now you're thinking about it Kate, Omari Kate and Ghost Didn't really have that many scenes No And that's why I kind of wish They'd built that in Yeah I kind of wish It had been baked in a little Yeah That would have been more Because you basically Like in the story You basically like You know You raised him kind of I did Yeah I was there He would come I'd feed him Yeah That would have been fine More scenes More scenes Yeah More scenes My favorite Was also getting out a thing Of Stouffer's And you know Yeah Putting a cigarette out in it Yeah That was pretty cool Okay And we have Uncensored Thoughts by Tasia asks Uh oh Do you think Kate Would ever give up Tommy? No Hell no Ever You know Ever I would go down with him Yeah I would go down with him Kate is that Bro Kate was about to She didn't want to talk to Tommy About killing Ghost Like she really stands on morals And like And like code She stands on business Yeah She's never She can't give up Tommy Allen If anybody touched him too I'd be like Oh yeah She's going down She's going down with him I would go down with the chef for sure Hell yeah Yeah Thank you so much For coming on You're welcome Thank you This was great We actually kind of got deep in this Which is We got real personal Yeah I'm sorry No no no We loved it As long as y'all are like You know We'll talk about that kind of stuff It's great You can come over anytime We'll have a cup Next time you have a problem With your girlfriends Just come You don't want to give me your number Give me your phone Because I'm going to be like Why won't she text me back? I'm down bad right now boys Alright Mike Let's plug what we got here Which is What's your Instagram? Oh Patricia Callenberg Isn't it? Yeah I think so Double check Right now We don't know What's happening with that With the actor strike So we're not going to promote Any dates on any shows That might be over with By the time this episode airs We hope Two weeks We hope We hope Yes we hope God willing So we're still not going to promote Because we're part of our union But Instagram And it's really important Michael Rayner Go Rainey Jr., do your thing. I'm going to find Patricia's Instagram for you guys. She doesn't even know it. Because I don't even know. I'm bad. It's Patricia Callenberg. No at, right? No at, no. Don't come at me. There's an at, but there's no underscore. So it's Patricia Callenberg. Just shot you a follow. All right. Fire. Michael? So listen, man. Like he said, we still, you know, the actors are still striking. But shout out to the writers. Y'all got y'all's, you know, y'all deal resolved and everything. So shout out to the writers. Congratulations to y'all. And we up next, man. Hopefully we get a, you know, we get to settle this very soon. You know, very sooner than later. It's important. Yeah, we need it. We have to. Then we can do some forced recap. We can do some fun stuff. Yeah, we can go crazy. We can actually do what we want to do with this podcast. Right now we can't really do anything because a lot of things that we're thinking about doing is like kind of entails, you know, promoting further, you know. And we can't really do any of that right now. Right. But I'm on Instagram, MichaelRennyJr. Where's 22 if you want to get a little cooler side of it. I have to go find you. Yeah. I'm going to find you first. Where's 22 on YouTube. Yeah. We got to drop a vlog soon. I'm going to knock you out because everybody's asking me for a vlog. I think you dropped one a couple of days ago, didn't you? I don't know. I got to check. I got to check. But yeah, go follow your boy, man. A lot of stuff. Thank you, guys. Oh, and 22 Joey is out right now, too. Yes. My first executively produced album, Body of Music by me. I executive produced it. And my boy, Roof Face Joey, is the artist on it. And it's going crazy right now. So if you haven't heard it yet, go listen to that. Executive produced by your boy. Gianni V. Paolo, Instagram. TikTok. Raya. All that stuff. What is Raya? Raya is such a moron. It's a dating app. No. It's like a dating app. Come on. Come on. After everything we've talked about. I know. I just can't stop being a scumbag. I love her. What do I do? Gianni V. Paolo. Vlog's coming out soon. Wow. I hope I'm alive in two weeks because this girl is ruining my fucking weeks. I love you all. Michael, give us one. The crew has it, baby. Thank you, Patricia. The crew has it. And you have it. Thank you, Patricia. Thank you. Woo! Yeah, he said Instagram.