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To watch episodes of financial audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. We're either leaving this show together or we're leaving and filing for divorce. He told me when I was in Florida that he was going to bed at 830 hung up, took his drunk ass over to this female girl's house. Yeah, hung out was her drunk, drove home drunk, and then wrecked his truck. You're convinced this woman's up to them or he's up to this woman? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven in the entire picture. To both of you combined. No, there's 12. We're missing a kid. About a hundred miles I moved to be with this woman and take care of nine kids that are not mine. Dollar-wise referral games are officially live. I want budgeting the spread like wildfire across the country, so I'm launching the dollar-wise referral games with huge rewards. On up to $1,500 in rewards, get a chance to win a trip to Austin, and if you're the tap-referred, take home the $10,000 grand prize. Are you a dollar-wise customer? Get in the game. Not a customer is not too late. Give 56% off for life. Click the link in the description below and let the games begin. I want you to be on the next episode of financial audit right here in Austin, Texas. If you think you have interesting finances, with an interesting personality, or a story, or a life, or relationship, I will personally pay you to take time off of work, fly you down to Austin, get you personal transportation, a hotel, food, and we'll have a great time hanging out. Go to katelapamber.com/apply or click that link in the description below. My name is Kali. I'm 46 years old. I'm Nate 44 and we're from Atlanta, Georgia. And this is financial audit. Oh, there you go. You're freaking out. All right. I'm not struggling with someone before filming. You're freaking out about this intro and everything. This girl, like, she's on edge right now. What is happening with you? You don't leash my house. That's not a good thing. Kali, what do you do for a living at your house? I am an IT engineer software. At your house? Yeah, I work remotely. Oh, do you do need to get outside? Something's wrong with you. I'll be honest. I don't think we've left any of that in, but she's like tweaking. What do you, what do you make in this position? You want monthly yearly? Yeah, let's get monthly. Okay, from this job, it's an average and I know you hate averages, but. No, I don't. I ask for the average. What are you working about? That's literally what I ask for. I don't think so because whenever you ask them now, you ask somebody what they make and they're like, "Well, this week I made this or last month." Well, because that's not an average. Okay, we're going to go. We're going to go to averages? We're going to go with 5,000. Okay, we're going to go with. That's an accurate. Yes, that's an accurate. An accurate average? Yes. Well, that's an accurate number. That's a real number. That's monthly the number. It fluctuates if I have extra overtime. That's why I said there could be an average, but we're going 5 is the minimum, so let's go with 5. But I have other sources of income. Stop looking at me like that. Okay, and that is net. Is that take home pay or is that gross? That's take home. Very good. What are these other jobs? I clean houses once a month. So you go outside to other people's houses? Yes. Once a month? It's. I got it through him. He remodeled some houses and they're like rentals and they only do it once a month and. Right, that is a crazy haircut. I've never seen anything like that in my life. I didn't even realize that I've seen you many times before we filmed right now, but now I'm seeing it for the first time ever. I'm seeing you. What can we add as the extra income for this extra whatever? That is $260 a month. Okay, is there anything more? And then I have a adult child who lives with me. Okay. He can give me $82,000. Is it him? No. $800,000? $900? Well, average, okay. And then I have an ex-baby daddy and I get $600 a month from him. Okay, very good. And so there are kids. What are the ages of these kids that we have? We have one together, he's six. Yeah, he'll be six on Friday. And then he has. You can tell. I have two in Illinois. You have two in Illinois? Yes. What are they in Illinois? Okay, what are their ages? 9 and 15. And what are the ages of your other children? They are. Do you want to know how many I have or do you want their eight ages? This was my question. Okay, there are 26, 24, 20, 18, 17. Oh, it's still happening. Okay. 15. Oh my shit. Wow. Okay, it literally is stopping. 10. And six. And I already got to six year old. I already got to six year old, right? Okay, I already got right. There's only one six, but count on in case I do something. How many men have been inside of her? That's only from a couple. Yeah, she's she's only good. I was married for almost 14 years before we met to somebody else, not him. No, there's 12. We're missing a kid. Okay, who are we missing? I have 12-year-old, 15-year-old, 17-year-old, six-year-old, nine-year-old, 15-year-old. Oh, I missed, I missed a 10-year-old. Are there two 15-year-olds? No. I have a 10-year-old. Okay, then you're missing my daughter. She's in between. She is 12. See, this is, now I have a 12-year-old. This is a concern that you don't even honor kids. I need to put the 14-year-old. He's a boy. I don't have a 14-year-old, but I have to cross off the 15-year-old, because I've got 15-year-old. Okay, I have, no, I have, I have 10. I have birthday. And you have? He has two. Two that are not the one with her. No, it's the right. So, there's 12 to get all together. Yeah. You're missing one, but that's okay. That's concerning that you don't even know. It's hard to remember. It's a lot to keep up with. Hey, stop pumping them out. True, but as you can see, they're all over now. Kind of, once a six-year-old. Okay. Okay, so I have $5,216,900 and $600. Anything else come in from you? No. Thanks, Nate. What do you do for a living? Six minutes in to get into the second question. I work in commercial construction. Sure. I also, what do you do? I do a lot of things. Okay, so no specific job. Are you a contractor? Yeah, yeah, a carpenter. You're a carpenter. Okay, well, that would be what you do. What do you make? Now, anywhere between $3,500 and I don't know, $8,000 a month. This is where I and yes, do every episode ask, what do you average? $4,000 a month, $5,000. I don't think you can go with that. That's not even accurate. Because not every month, there's work. So, like, some months, he'll do great. But then there's other months. Let's be realistic. It's like barely making your bill. So you're like, it's feast or famine. Sure. Huh? It's feast or famine. You're either busy as hell and you have a ton of money coming in. I got it. I got it. Once I understood the words you said, I got it. So, what can I put for a dollar a month? I don't know, $4,000 a month. At least. Oh my goodness, you guys are interesting. Okay. Now, why do you have AIDS on your nose? Is there something I don't know? I'm sorry? You have AIDS on your nose. No, it's not AIDS. This is a sun spot, actually. Okay. Oh, what's going on, guys? It's probably cancer. Oh, yeah. That's a little aggressive. I don't think we need to come in that. Okay, guys. So I have here, for what it's worth, this was your application to the show. Where are they going to leave? Correct. Yeah. I think we'd probably don't say that. I would think, don't you feel the same way? I do. It's been like 18 months. We don't live together. Yeah, it's been a while. We haven't lived together. And to be honest, I pulled the money. I stopped giving our money. Why do you pull what money? I pulled the money that I used to give you all the time that wasn't on the books, you know, I'm saying any time we needed something, I would take care of it. You know, I would go find a way to make the money and get what we needed. So with you not having a man to do that, yes. So why do you want to file for divorce? Why do I? I'm sorry. Why would you want to get divorced? Oh my god, because everything is a shit show. Living, we don't live together because I am under a constant microscope of being accused of doing stuff that I'm not doing 24/7. You're accused of doing stuff 24/7? Maybe not 24/7. Really? Okay. Then 20 out of 24 hours a day. Okay. Okay. I'll get back to that, but something's eating me alive. Where are you from? We're from Illinois. No usually. You're from Illinois. Yes. Where's your family from? Illinois. Are you sure? Yes sir. Strictly Illinois. Yeah. This is really weird. I want to do a test. He looks like, okay, no, no, no, this isn't a bad thing. My grandpa was much more handsome than you, but there is something about his structure that resembles my grandpa in a very creepy way. - That's weird. - But he's like a (beep) version. And my grandpa's from. - That's even weird, are you not even skinny? - Quiet, you're a math version of my grandpa, whose family is from Indiana, right next to Illinois. - Hmm, I need to do a test. - Oh my God, what if y'all are related? - That's what I'm saying. - I'm a losie. - Lincoln. - Wow. - Now, now, what's concerning is you look like an age-year-old man. You shouldn't. When he was your age, you look a lot better, but you look like he does at 80. - Okay. - Well, he won't make it to be 80 years old, so. - Yeah, I probably won't make it. - It's all right. - Okay, that's at the point. - There's no points of anything. - Also, look at me. - He speaks to me speak with your chin up, like his picture day. - He's sending this to his grandfather. (upbeat music) - He did a fucking just back and forth on him, my grandpa. They look, I don't like, well, he looks like my 80-year-old grandpa, which is bad for you, but okay, get back to it. What do you mean you're getting, like, analyzed and accused? What the fuck are you talking about? - It's literally just anything. I don't know, he's paranoid. - Yeah, but go into it, tell me. - High-pervigilate. - I need to understand what's happening. 'Cause I don't, I don't, no, I'm sorry, I wasn't there. - I don't, I don't. - It's just like, if I pick up my phone, who are you texting? If I-- - Is it a question? Oh, who are you texting? - No, it's literally every single time. It's like, who are you texting? What are you texting them about? - He's smiling about it. - It's, no, it's not. - Do you guys, 'cause you look like you both, no. - No, we don't do, I don't know. We have a shit ton of kids to take care of. - That, who would that have? - No, I've stopped people. - To answer your question, it's-- - What do you guys do? - I don't know, she is standoffish towards answers. And-- - Why are you asking me questions? I'm 46 years old. I don't have to do questions every time I do. - The people like to know what they're walking into. - Walking into what? - When you walk into a room, what's going on? How are you doing? You know that, being cordial. - When you walk into a room with your girlfriend, are you like who talking to you? - Empty that you care for other people. You know, that's all part of questioning people. - Don't question me. - How are you doing? - That's different. - Who are you talking to, what's going on? If you have an intense stare at your phone and you're typing away and I say what's going on? And you get upset, of course it's going to make me more concerned about what you're actually doing. - That's such bullshit and you know it. - Well, tell me what's up. - What do you mean, that's my side of it, at least. - That's your interpretation of it though. - Yeah, well, if it's different then, why not just support my feelings, sorry about that. - Your feelings are wrong. - Support my feelings. Tell me I'm wrong. - I'm telling you, you're wrong. - I'm telling you, I'm telling you. - I told you, you're wrong. - And support me as well. - Feelings of all what? - What do you mean? - He thinks I'm cheating all the time. - What do you think she's cheating? - That would be a great question, please. Why? - I don't know. My mind makes connections. - Okay, my connection is on time. - She does all the time. - No, they're not real connections. They're things he imagined. - He said the other day. - What does he imagine? - Hyper-vigilism. - Everything. - Which is. - Everything, if your nervous system has been damaged. - No. - From what the (beep) - No, no. - No, no. - From his ex. - From his ex. - Bring your ex out on someone else. That doesn't make any sense. What is he saying you do? - That I am talking to people on social media. I'm texting them. If I'm out, like if we're out at a bar or something, then I would, if I was talking to somebody that meant I was either sleeping with them or I wanted to sleep with them. - What are you thinking? - He goes as far the other day. - I don't know. - Because we don't live together. So we were FaceTiming. He FaceTimed me and I knew something was up because he'd never FaceTimed me. And we're talking and I had some of my children in the kitchen. I was sitting on one side of the island. Kids were on the other side. So I have them on FaceTimed and he literally says, who's at the house? Why are you looking over there? I said, there's nobody here. What are you talking about? He's like, I just saw you look over there. There's got to be somebody there. Well, do you think I'm going to start my phone the whole time while I'm on the phone? Like there's other people in the room. I'm looking out. Why would I answer my phone if I had another dude in my house? Doesn't that sound like something stupid? - That's some shady shit. Yeah. - So why would I look in that? But why would I have to tell you that I'm not doing that? - I don't know. Why do I have to defend myself for-- - Exactly. - For being what? - What, I'm sorry. For being hurt in the past and not being able to control my-- - From someone else. - I think you're fine. - Yeah. Yeah, but I can't control my feelings. - Control a little bit. - Yes, you can. Yeah, I guess so. - Well, you control your actions from your feelings. - Control your actions. - I get angry. It doesn't mean I've just beat people. - Yeah, right. - So what? - There's no control. It's everything. Like it's to the point where when we were together and living together, I didn't go anywhere. I have no friends anymore. I don't talk to anybody, you know? - And you're saying that's him? - Yeah, I can't have girlfriend. Even my girlfriends that are married. If I talk to my girlfriend-- - You think she's eating bucks? - Yeah. - No. - Oh, really? First. - She just chooses everybody else over top of me. - Because I give them any time. - What do you mean? How can she be choosing other people over top of you as you say, if she can have friends? - I didn't say she couldn't have friends. - Well, why do you say that? - No, he doesn't say it, but I can't do this. She chooses them over her husband or her family. - Maybe I'm on your side, I don't know, but you gotta tell me. - I don't know. - I would like an example. What's choosing? What have I done that has put them first over you? - I mean, isolating people is not a good thing. Typically, so I need a good reason. - That's how I felt, but I can't. I can't tell. - No, you're isolating her, according to her. - I've isolated me. - Don't tell me I'm kidding. - Maybe he was valid, maybe he was valid. Tell me, I don't know. How would it be valid? - I don't know, I need to hear a reason. - I don't get a reason, but you can get mad, but there's no reason. - I'm not mad, I'm asking that. But girl, woman, yeah, I have a reason, huh? - I don't think I have a reason, honestly. - You just tell her she can't have friends? - No, I did not. - No, he doesn't tell me I can't have friends. - What are you talking about? That's how isolated you are. - If I engage with my friend, it was always a guilt trip. We had a roommate, okay? - Like what? - I'm gonna give you an example. We had a roommate. We got a house a couple of years ago. We all moved in together. It was a female friend. It was all supposed to be fine. It was a great way to save money, you know? - No, going into this. - Okay, you want the truth? Okay, going into this, we had separate. - She wants the truth. - Oh, you're gonna talk about it? - I'm saying, we got the house because he and I separated. He moved out, the person who accuses me of cheating, moved in with a friend who is a female friend. He could have female friends that he could go drinking with and live with. - Can, being told we're calling this person in the post show. - But that's okay, no, you're not. - We did not. - No, we're not. - Nobody's calling her. - Huh? - I didn't move in with anybody. - You didn't move in with your friend that you got. You're in trouble. It's a different one. - Oh. - There's two friends. - Oh good, well, we're calling one of them. - One is a roommate. One is his female friend. - The sound that you said a roommate is moved, go on, continue. - We split up. He moved out of my house. We got back together while he had moved out my female friend and I decided we were gonna get a house together. He and I got back together. So then the three of us moved in this house together. It did not go well. The entire time we lived together, if her and I were sitting and talking about something, he would accuse us of either being intimate, talking about him, or that we were sneaking around and that we were up to something. - Oh, why? Why the accusation, you know, I don't know. I'm just a behavior behind it. - What's the behavior in Belle? - I want to know the behavior. 'Cause I've never hugged her. - The mannerisms, the way you guys talk. - What are the mannerisms? - 'Cause I'm the same that you're eating bush. Like what y'all are saying. - You kind of did, then why are you saying what I'm saying? I'm saying you choose other people over the people that should matter to you more. - But what do you want me to choose? - Yeah, what did it do? - This choosing thing, I don't understand the way that makes sense. How's he choosing a roommate? What was he choosing? You guys were separated, correct? - Yes, and then we got back here. - To let this person into our lives. - But you were separated. - But you were living the house with us. - And depend on them. - Depend on them for what? - This is my role. You know what I'm saying? - What you're separating? - No, we weren't. - That's what I was saying. - And we were never separated. - I have the text messages. - You're ridiculous. No, we were not. - He was so nice. - He was the one who sat here and said you guys were separated. - We are now. - And I got the house. - We do not live together. - Oh my God, this is so long. - What? - Why do you think I got the house together? It was after Christmas think of who you went out with. - First off, they were selling the house and we had to move. - Now, I'm not talking about now. Talk about when I got the house. When we first came to the house. - When was this? - Two and a half years ago. You weren't supposed to move in the house originally. Remember? - Right. - See? Why didn't you suppose to move with them? - You were living with your female friend at that time originally. - Why were you with a female friend? Who's the female friend? - Yeah, why can't you go stay with a female friend when I can't even have any kind of friends? - What was your relationship with her? - A friend that not only you introduced me to. - I did introduce you to. - Supported us for the first couple months that we lived down here. - Why didn't you move? helped us anytime we had any problems. >> We stayed with her for two weeks while I got home or the kids. >> Why didn't you move in with her and to this house? >> I did move in this house with her. >> He did end up moving in with me in the roommate and it's been an issue. >> Why are you complaining about her getting a roommate? >> I think it's just bullshit that we have all these kids. We can handle it and she wants to bring other people into it and just max our budget out on everything. >> Did you guys not talk about it before? >> We don't, so we just make an executive decision. >> No, I didn't break down the point. >> If you guys didn't talk about it then it's making an executive decision. >> The roommate, the house was in the room and I went and viewed the house. Before we got the house, while he stayed at home with the children, he knew where we were going. So he was not, we didn't make an executive decision. He knew what he was getting into. >> You knew you were getting into the roommate situation? >> Yes, we knew, we knew because we couldn't afford it without her. >> What are you doing about that? >> We couldn't afford it without her. >> I didn't have to have a house with a giant pool. We didn't have to. >> The pool did not, no, but we didn't need a house with 10 kids. >> We didn't have to figure out how much money we make and then max out what we could leave it. >> The goal was to be in post office. >> You're complaining about the roommate, but you understand. >> Ridiculous. I know how much money I make generally. So I budget myself mentally, not on paper. >> But I've done a pretty damn good job of it for the last 44 years. I'm still alive and I don't need anybody to pay my bills. >> That's not budgeting, though. And that's not having money. >> And I can also throw money at people and help them. >> So I'm confused, how is she putting the, at that time? And I understand that this continues throughout your relationship. This is just example number one. But how was she putting that roommate over you just choosing her to do things? >> To do what? >> She just hanging out, you never want to hang out with me. >> Yeah, exactly. >> We never let the house, the roommate and I never let the house anywhere. >> Were you not hanging out with your husband, though? >> Yeah. >> No, that's right. Because we would hang out in the living room or the kitchen and he can't sit still long enough and was drinking that he would pop in the room and say, what are you talking about? I know you're talking about me. Y'all are planning something and then he would storm out and go in the backyard. >> They're calling me crazy. They're calling me nasty. They're calling me wild boy. I am not. >> He never wanted to sit and talk. And he hates talking about what we talk about. He hates reality TV. He doesn't like cheer. He doesn't like dance. Is that not what we would be talking about? Were you interested in any of that? >> He would walk away. >> But I like to be involved in what's going on around me, especially in the people's lives around me. >> Did we exclude you or did you choose to walk away? >> Yes, you did exclude me. >> Because you slowly but surely. >> This is the way he feels. >> The way you knew that would push me away. >> Or maybe I treated you the way that I was feeling because you kept accusing me of stuff. You pushed me away first. >> Okay. >> See how that goes both ways up? >> Yeah, well, you are always concerned about something happening. >> Always. >> All I can say is what you're open with and it kind of makes sense. But so like now, I know you're in a separation situation now and we're either getting divorced or not figured out. Not going well so far. How long have you been separated now? >> 16 months. >> What? >> I will literally pay you to help your friends save money. And that's fucking crazy. 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Oh, this time. I'm sorry, you're clear of play. Yeah, I have to clarify. When we're talking about how many times you guys separated? He's talking about his ex from 10 years ago when he's talking about me. The previous. Yeah, you're most recent separation. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. No, you tell him. The most recent one? I need a minute, too. I got picked up on a warrant for not changing my address correctly. What? Yeah. Yeah. So I wanted her house. All right. Huh? They spotted her house. I was home. He wasn't. Okay, so what? It is like a false report. Yes, it was ridiculous. Someone false reported your house? No, no. Someone said there's like a hostage? No, no, they showed up like swat because of the warrant. That's not swatting. Yeah. They had police at my back door. My front door. My basement door on the side. And like five police cars lining the street. I'm sorry. What was the warrant for? Possession of a firearm. I think that was the warrant. Not the address issue. Yeah, yeah. No, it was. It was at address as you, because they had sent a court date out. But you have to realize that they're like four years behind under their. What is this firearm? Schedule. So, when I was 26, I got convicted of a felony. Oh, a felony? Do you, I. No, no, we're not done. We're not done. Do you, I, and Ellen, me? Right? Okay. So here, I got into an accident and I had a pistol behind the seat. And that's how I got that. Where were you? Going that night. He's leaving out the key part of why we weren't together. After the arrest. Okay. I was in Florida. Where were you? I was, I'm telling you, I was in Florida with all of my children. He chose to stay home. I have the text, still. You chose to stay home. You were building a swing set for our child. Exactly. I said, "I don't feel good." He said, "You got hurt." I still have the messages. I said, "My shoulder's hurt. I need help." Yeah, so he called a female friend to come help. No, no, no, no, no. I still have those messages. You don't. Okay. I never know anything. I'm always wrong. But I have a whole truth. This is the issue for the last three years. The issue is you? You won't listen to the truth. You tell lies. Story. Oh my god. That's what you're drinking. And this is why she doesn't want to talk to the girl either. Nate, what's the truth? Exactly why. Anyway, he told me when I was in Florida that he was going to bed at 830 hung up, took his drunk ass over to this female girl's house. hung out with her drunk, drove home drunk, and then wrecked his truck. Now, now, let me tell you this. Go on. Okay. Don't interrupt them. Go on. Building a swing set for my children. We love swinging. I got into a bottle. I was upset because she was going with her girlfriend. He could have came. I could have came, but I would have had to be with the girl friend. It's not a girlfriend. It was our roommate. Why are you upset that she wanted to run a trip with her friend? I'm not allowed to go on a girl's trip. I've never gone on a girl's trip with other kids. I'm just absolutely at the way that I'm treated. I want to talk about that for a second. Okay, continue. We'll look back. I was about halfway through a bottle. I went to the friend's house and you had drinking issues previously. Did you lie to me and tell me that you were going on and went to the friend's house? And why did I go to the friend's house? Not to meet with the friend, but to meet her friend who was a male electrician who said he would help me lift the boards that I needed to the next day. Why did you go to the friend's house today? Because we had talked back and forth on the phone. We had never met each other. I was like, well, I'm not doing anything. I'll just shoot over. I'll just shoot over and meet you and then I'll you know, so you can come over tomorrow and help me with this beam to put up for this wing set. And I didn't make it home. I had a tree and that happens. I mean, it was stupid and I know better than that. Why did you have an illegal firearm? I didn't because I own a firearm. He bought me an illegal firearm. What did you get it from? Academy sports. I'm not a convicted fella and I can have firearms. So you clearly doesn't understand the law that I told her. I can't have firearms in this house. Then you should have put it in your car. Yeah, you put it in there. It's your own decision. Yeah, that was my ignorance. So boy, you're trying to blame me for it. What do you do when you're drunk to you? You don't go drive. You don't go. - So to a female friend's house, when your wife is out of town, when you just told your wife, - It's a way out. - Yes, it's a way to do it. - How was it a female and male's friend house? Were they both there? - Because the female is a little whore who likes to sleep with other people's married men. So she had a friend over a thing. I was married to everyone at the other day, Ali. - Well, yeah, you get married immediately bringing you to then- - I do, that's kind of a valid. I'll give you that. - Poor. - So, I'm confused. - You went to a woman's house or a man's house? - A woman. - But you said you were going to a man's house. Why did it go to a woman's house? - Who had a man over? - To meet her friend. Yes, to me, her friend. - Her friend. The woman is both of our friend. - The whore. - Yes, the whore started out as my friend. - But you're convinced this woman's up to them. Are he's up to this woman? - I don't know. - Me, no. - Okay, he says he does. - Absolutely not. - And everybody was fine for a while, but then I got pregnant with our son. So I started going out to the bars 'cause we all three used to go out. He continued to go to the bars with her alone when I was pregnant and the nice- - Is this okay or bad? - Yeah, I let him because I'm not controlling. You think he was gonna let me go out with her? - Does this sound like it? - No, it's fine. So they had their own separate lower- - I don't really call ever going to the bar with your girlfriend alone. - With- - Oh, sorry. - Without you. - With it. I know you did- - I don't ever recall going to the bar without you. - I asked him what happened and I'd have had our son. - You had our son and said, you look like you're getting fidgety. Why don't you go out for a little bit? - I did not say that he told me he was leaving the hospital because he was tired and had to work tomorrow. And I later found in his text messages that he texted her and asked her if she wanted to go out drinking to celebrate with him. - That night? - The same night I had the baby. - Why would you do that though? - Okay. - I have screenshots. - Screenshots. - He hates that I have proof of everything. - Oh, she's got a million screenshots. - Well, why do you do this job? - From the day we met. - Can he've been accusing me of cheating since the day we met? - Okay, so, okay. Well, she looked at that. - I don't want to loop. - I want to loop back. - Do I? - Doesn't involve me. - This is the novel. - You keep looking. Buddy, she- - I got a lot to go through. - She went on her trip with her friends. - You're the kids, 12 kids. - Woman shut up! - But you don't make it like I went on a girls trip. I'm not allowed to go on girls trips. I took 10 kids to the beach. - Nobody said these things. These things are all implied by her friend. - You said you were upset. - I said it was upset, but I didn't tell her. - Okay. - No, you can't go with your girlfriend on a girls trip. - Why are you upset? - Why am I being labeled like I say these things when I don't? - Nate, why were you upset? - You're the one who just said you were upset. - I'm upset for being misrepresented. - No, you just said right now that you're upset that she went. - I'm upset with her friend. - Fair good. - Why? - Because her friend asked her to go with her because she needed somebody to go with her because she's not really an adult. - Okay. - So why are you upset? - Now she is. Now that mommy has taken care of her for a couple of years and got her up on her feet. - Wait, she's the not adult or her friend? - She's the controlling adult that takes care of everybody around her but doesn't want to be polite, cordial or anything. That with her husband. - Do I take care of you? - What is the way I cook for you? Do I clean for you? Are bills paid or are your chat? How do I do anything for anybody more than what I do for you? - Nate, why can't she go on a trip with her friends? - Go ahead. - No, no, no, no, no, why don't you like it? I am trying to get to the bottom of why you don't like it. - I don't know. - I don't know. - At the time we were fighting or something and that that played into it. - Okay, okay. - You know, there's a lot of other factors. It's not me saying you can't get away. - You can't get away. - What are the factors? - There's a lot of factors every day. - 'Cause I encourage, no, for granted, we don't have kids together. But I encourage, I encourage my girl, you know, we've been almost together for two years now. Together for almost two years. I love her going on trips with her friends. - Yeah. - It doesn't insult me. - Because I wanted the bathroom without him. - I support her. I'm here for her today. - No, but you told me you don't like her going on trips with her friends. - You told me to support her as much. - I don't understand why you don't like it though. - I don't need, I don't know. - Because maybe because I think something's gonna happen. - Why, why? Why do you think that? - It's part of that, what I was talking about that hyper-visualist is you're just waiting for something to happen and it's not your fault. - We were watching you and we clocked you when you walked into this office and I was there. But you walked in? - And I'm looking around and I'm, - Yes. - You're like, we were like a cat who stepped outside for the first time. - I didn't wear my surroundings. - If something were to happen, I'm gonna be the fault. - There was a ping pong table. That's all there was. - Okay. Well, what were you afraid of? - I wasn't afraid. - What would my marketing team do to you? - It's not what I would be doing with your marketing team. - You thought she would suck them off in the middle of the office? - No. - No, but see how he kind of hesitated. So I still have to find the messages, but just for context, look how they spoke to each other. Just, this is one of their text messages. It's clean. - I'm gonna put it down, put it down. - Just so you have context of how they speak to each other. - One time. And that's why she's got it. - I have more. - Sometimes you people are kind of nasty and you just, - I have more. - So you seem nasty to me. - That is very nice. - She's super. - Oh, there you go. - It's blue him. - Yes, wait. I'm sorry. Yes, blue's him. White's her talking to him. - Okay. Yeah, I'll be there soon. He says, hey, I made it home. Fine, all's good. I'm on the couch. Of course, 'cause it's all my fault now, crying face. She said, night love. I'll deal with the drama tomorrow. - Right. - Why would she say love? I don't know. - Oh, she calls them love all the time. - That's a southern thing, I think. Devon, is that a southern thing? - Some time. - Okay, I get it at some time. - Here's a different day, though. Just for context of how much they want to hang out. Since he says, oh, I don't hang out with her. - Okay, he said, you want a day drink with me? 328 B.M. - She's got to piss me off. - Oh, yeah. I recall this day. - Every time I piss him off, he goes out. She wants to go out drinking with her. - Well, he can, he can, he can talk shit about her to my face. So this is what I did as like a recaliting day drinking. But I am okay with someone hanging out with a friend. - Me too. - And he said, hey, when you got a minute, I need someone to talk to. That's not a greet just, but what did she say? Let's see. - Sorry, I was working and have the kids. Talk about what? You're welcome to call her on 10 if you ever like, I'll certainly listen. You have never taken my advice anyway. So not sure what there is. Okay, what am I getting from this? That was not-- - How often though they talk. I can't have a, it's not, I can't have a male friend, though. I would not be allowed. - I agree, that's bad. Well, why does that make him bad? - But this is your friend, beginning with. - She's not my friend, we have not been friends. - Well, why not? - Why not? - Why not, though? - Why not? Because one, why would I keep being friends with her? Because-- - With somebody who supports you and-- - Why would you be friends with somebody? - And you don't have to take care of-- - And you don't have to take care of-- - Or take their picture-- - Or take their picture-- - School, or any of that. You need somebody to cuddle and take care of all the time is what it is. That's what it is. - I have kids to do that. You sound like you need to be coddled and take care of with all of your accusing me of doing something all the time. - Have you ever caught her doing something? - Only twice with her ex. - Twice? Wrong? - Yep. - Okay, I would love to know. One time he saw me and my ex coming out of the movie theater when he and I were not together with our children. - This is after I got-- - And my child, we were not even together, though. - Not a jail. - We had, we were not together. - You're in your one of a million separations? - Yes. - No, this is the last-- - No, this is the last-- - Yes, I was with my daughter in the movie. They said they held me into, and when I got out, it was, you're not welcome here, and then there's a million different, hey, I've got all the screenshots of the whole shoot, you put on a face book-- - Great, I'm admit it to it, I always took my daughter into the movie. - Turned to defame me. - Defame you? - And defame my character. - You did it all by yourself, Lou. - Okay. Okay, so was that cheating? - No, but if you were the kid-- - No, but if you were the kid. - It was a shitty one, you're down to get kicked like that by the woman you loved and came-- - We had-- - Take 100 miles I moved to be with this woman and take care of nine kids that are not mine. - I don't take care of my kids. - Hey. - You got me wafed up. - You don't take care of them, you're taking care of them. I'm not taking care of them myself, of course. - Here, here's another day, just read, help me. - No, just still the context, this is a different day. - Don't know, you and your, read that one. I have millions of them though, since he said it was very rare. - Oh my gosh, Caleb. You're dramatic. (bell dings) - This is a grown-in-ore event. Your vagina's been opened so many times. - Not, yes, but my hands are clean. I wash them. - Come have a drink of big daddies with me. So I'm a bar, not an actual-- - Yes. - Anyway, super something, okay. She said, "Would love to, but have the kids. "We pass in by there in 10 minutes on our way home, Eloelle." He says, "Damn you, I drink alone anyway." She says, "Why not, actually." - I mean, that's the hug thing, maybe, yeah. - I'm just saying, it's a contact, it's so many days. - The only time we were contacting her was when I wanted to have a talk. - I wanted to go drink. Do you want to go drink? - This one and-- - Okay, he was an artist, right? - Here's another one. - Yes, I was. - Well, isn't that the issue? I mean, I don't think it was further. - Yeah, that's why we split up the other seven times. So it's because the drinking and the paranoia-- - You've been sober now. I'm over a year sober now, yeah, we love that congratulations King. The thing is that I think you see okay I had to cut you off. No, I know but I'm gonna read this one. Here's her telling him to manipulate me So they can go out without me saying anything. Don't make an excuse. Okay I'm not making them explain it. Go ahead. You send some kind of video she responds videos to her ears right after I had her son the same week I had her son FYI your woman is feeling a bit down Please show her some smiles and affection and make her feel adored before you come out tonight Talk about it later Right, wait, I had just had a baby that way he's asking what no, she's asking him to be nice. I'm manipulating to me Yeah, yeah, don't drink with her. I just had a baby talking about the supportive friend I know that's crazy picked out as a picture. Why are you going drinking with somebody when I just had a baby? I agree with that point, but what she said is that you're feeling a bit down. Please show her some smiles and affection and make her feel adored before you come out Yeah, that's not why are you going to ask her if I could go out and she said yes go ahead. Wait. No, this is she's not being a bad person to this No, she has no she has no, she has no, okay, why do you keep defending her because that is not bad really? Because she's my girlfriend if she's my girlfriend then instead of going drinking with my husband should she have come to see me in the baby I agree with that. I'm saying the message isn't bad specifically. She wasn't manipulating that message. It's just the context of their relationship There's so many texts I have between him and her Well, it's something a little bit. Yeah, they hang out. It's right. No, it's only her Yes, her and him they hang out as friends, right? Exactly. What was the other time you caught her cheating? Yeah 4 a.m. Gras your opens. I'm sitting on the golf cart looking out the Home to make sure I got home. Okay, that's her to one brother home. He's stalking a girlfriend's house Wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry. Why happen from the girlfriend that he loved too much ended up After we split and you did me dirty she ended up telling me what really happened that night four years later Well, I thought she's your best friend. She meant well, I need to know what happened Apparently they were together that night who was she was with me my ex this is what this girlfriend told him after we Okay, why would the girlfriend know it's her house after party they went to her house and then they went upstairs Talk, right? She's your friend. So why is she letting that stay in for four years because she was better girls are always tighter I wasn't drinking with her every day you were you were drinking with her weekly that's girl code You know that she's not gonna tell you okay until you do her wrong and you did something wrong I didn't do anything wrong told me. I sure that's why you don't hit this woman because you expose you in your acts Oh, no, I didn't you hear him she did that after I stopped talking to her then she tried to say this about that So no the stories don't line up Facts are facts and I'm very big I'm back. Oh, these are not very factual on either of the facts is yeah My ex did following home because we were drinking made sure that I got home safe. That's all that happened you didn't drive You got I was driving my own car No, you weren't because we had to go get it the next day. No, we didn't know from her house You're wrong. I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong because I took the golf cart over there and got it You did not how would you take the golf cart over there and drive the golf cart home They took like 40 minutes to get over there. Yeah, you don't drive me That makes no sense because our our towns Yeah, our town you can say the golf cart Yeah, I could get everyone awesome on the golf cart. Doesn't mean no, we have golf cars has There's paths in between all of the grocery stores. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Um, it's like an old people community. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes. His stories are The rumors I get on my nerves hold on. He wants us to stop. I don't care Come on, keep up with us here. I'm trying Okay, so You won't even I think it makes sense that he would have a little bit of trust issues if he found out you've directs I think no, he found that out last year. He said it didn't happen So what about me on in a previous no, what about the other in a previous relationship? What? After being cheated on in a previous relationship and that yeah, that's not her. Yeah, but I'm saying There's it's always in the back of your mind. Yeah, but what you choose to Not necessarily book and then you see this with the one you're with his actions based on his thoughts are his choices I think my ex followed me home Is reason to keep on going and going and going to the point of having sex with women Could you accuse me of being with women too? You just said yes, but I've never been with the woman. Tell me Nathaniel You just shook your head. Yes, don't smile. What is she doing with women? The roommate The roommate she moves into though we're gonna open the door right. Oh, you like flirty Flirtin around with the roommate. She don't feel like that Just say that I'm the manipulation that happens over here 10 minutes ago. I was mothering her And then I have to take care of her and No, no Because if you're gonna manipulate me to think that then I'm gonna come out This is what she this is what she does Okay, what do I do if you laid somebody into fighting with you, and then you've got screenshots You've got everything else And that makes them the wrong person for for calling you out on it. How does she manipulate you though? That's what I'm saying. No, no how How you're telling me she manipulated you and thinking to think it. Yeah, what did you do to manipulate your behavior together? No, tell me and specifically how did she manipulate you? I don't know. They just know flirty talking to each other or You know, I'm saying How is flirty talking because I have never flirted with her. I don't know. She wouldn't even be my type. Okay. She's not See that type of. She's by that type of self right now. I'm just saying, you know, I'm saying Well, if I get out there that there is that option I'm poking you because if I can't have a friend. I am now Exactly. You just admitted it. You're poking the back up for a second. 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Here's the update the free gift stacking promo from Christmas in July As visually sold out for the flavor hasn't zero sugar under one calorie A hundred servings a tub same new traffic blend same full vitamin stack still just four scoops a day max Code Caleb still gets you 10% off your entire order and there's still a shot one out of every 10 that your tub comes with my face on it All you need to do is head to Gamersubs dot gg slash Caleb or click the link in the description below Because you created the issue there would not be an issue if you didn't create the issue well to this day you do it To this day you still accuse me to seven years later and because I make it go and forth No, it's a joke you but it's not to me, but it's not a joke for me either Something that's a joke to me isn't to you. Oh, but I have to suck it up and deal with it if it's okay for you to do it Because it's not okay for me If we talk to your friend that you drink with sometimes she would stand on business For us X I Yeah, that's the one that we're calling No, okay, can we call her? No, we can't call the X not the X friend nothing You're still friends with her though, right? No, we don't speak anymore. What happened? Um, is to keep the peace. No, you don't live with me. So why doesn't matter? It doesn't matter I don't harass her because you want to accuse me as something then I'll just I'll just cut the woman out of my life If that makes you I don't buy that here's what I'm doing for you. I don't buy that I don't buy that at one point then why didn't you cut her out the other three years that I hadn't issue with her Why'd you wait until we're split up to now all of a sudden it matters to cut her out Because we weren't talking divorce back then We weren't talking we weren't separated back then we didn't live in separate homes. You lived with her for almost a month No, I did not no, I did not and I did stay at her house But what you did was not even in the country. I'm not even in the country. She was in Spain, senior son. Four years ago. Yeah, she was in Spain, senior son. That was two years ago. Four years ago, I may have spent three or four days there. You spent a month there. No way. I did. I could pull out a screenshot but then I'll be guilty of having the proof that he hates. She has a what even? Even what are you saying? Because the last ones were nothing. I'll be on it. Because, well, I can keep finding though. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, screenshot of what? What are you saying? Screenshots of what now? Just to prove that he was gone living there for a month because he said he was only gone for three, four days. Mm-hmm. And then back. My grandpa confirms he does not know who you are. Does he know his family though? He has a big family. I gave the last name. That's not the family. I would say his mom aside. I'll tell you later. No, tell me no. I will believe it. What? Isn't that, mom's? That's mom's. Okay, so, um, oh, guys. So you guys have been separated for a bit now. A bit. Yes. What's our consideration at this moment? It's we're getting back together or divorced. I would like to get back together. Why? Because I care deeply about her and our kids. The kids far get it. You don't trust her. I don't, but it is something I'm willing to work on. You're willing to work on. You've tried seven years of working on this. No. You're insecure. You're an insecure man. Mm-hmm. And you act on that by protecting aggressively on your partner. That is not a good thing. You are deeply insecure. Why the fuck would you ever get back with that? I think you work on it and then get back together. Right? Where do you stand? He wants to get back together. Where do you stand? The non-trusted. I don't know. If he could cut that out and actually just be normal, then I would consider it. But he can't. I went so far. Yes. We put, I put cameras everywhere in our house. Why? Because he accused me and the roommate of doing stuff, asking if he ever found anything inappropriate on the cameras. I put cameras in my bedroom. No, because it was deleted. He thinks I delete things on the cameras. What do you mean it was deleted? Or the camera just. Did you find it? You don't have access to it for that couple of minutes. You know, it's just a, it's just really a coincidence. You guys don't do. No. What drugs do you do? Well, no, because I mean, your bottomer row of teeth are a little. Yeah. And you have fake teeth here, right? Well, that's kids, man. Yeah, but I have some serious health. It's a calcium out of your body. You look like you've done. No. No. No. So, okay. Things in my life. Okay. Well, that must be it. Let's not go there. But I've also worked 35 years in carpentry out in the sun. Okay. Well, let me, what are you doing today? Okay. Just saying I beat my body up. So the withered look that you're saying. Hold you 35. He is not. Oh, look in it. Are you young? I'm okay with that. Listen, I accept that this show stresses me out. Okay. Well, you though. Yeah. Why do you love stressing my life as well? Do you not see it? Yeah. Why do you think she deleted footage? Because I've never done anything. That's the thing because I've never cheated on them. So there's nothing to do. Why can't he find the footage? Oh, he can find all of it. He's just saying he thinks that I still have done something. I deleted it. Is there specific sections you can find? No. You're wrong. He's so lying. Hey, we went to a concert a couple of what month ago. And then when we came home, the camera just happened to be turned off. Ask him how he has access to a camera. He doesn't live in. Because I gave him access to prove that the camera just didn't work for an hour. When you got home that I was upstairs none of the camera. Because there's one. Because I was exactly I was by myself in my bedroom. We don't have to have access to me 24/7. He saw me come home alone. The camera that points on to the driveway was disconnected. The camera that was in there. How can we get the camera? Hold on. Hold on. There was a camera in the kitchen and the kids were up 20 minutes. That's the other thing. He thinks I'm bringing men home with the children. But the children can ask him. Yep. Who? Who? Who? The children. All of a sudden 20 minutes later the camera doesn't work when people come in the house and everybody was gone and went to their rooms. The cameras went quiet. We went to our room. The camera didn't come out. You can't pull the sheets over my eyes like that. That's ridiculous. I know how. So he saw me come in alone. He saw me in the kitchen with all the children alone. But he thinks the camera cut out and then I snuck somebody in the house and took them to the bedroom. Got to get into these finances guys. But this is so one resolved. I did not. Unresolved. This is like this is so crazy. All of this is a little, but I'm trying to get the whole picture. Okay, but if I'm cheating on you, why am I giving you access to cameras in my house? I don't have to give you access to shit. But then his argument is why are the cameras cut off? And guess what I did as soon as he yelled at me about that and made up that whole story. I took away his access and I changed the password. Why? Because I'm not going to defend stuff still. So now he says I changed the past seat. It makes me feel even better because now I changed it because I'm cheating. So what does that do to you? I can't win. Tell him how am I supposed to win this argument? So this is a woman you believe is taking men to her house or something. Why would you want to get back together with that? He lives three miles down the road can come to my house and come in my house at any time. Three years. Why would he think that I'm cheating? Three years. Why would I allow him to have that access of coming over unannounced if I was doing something? It doesn't logically make sense. Somebody tells him this. Okay, you just told him it. What's your response? I don't know what's going on in there. I hide him in the closet. I just think it's very calculated in time. What is calculated? Whatever, whenever. Because I would need an apple. You know, people tend to over explain themselves when they're liars. If I don't explain myself, then I get 30 more questions and then it's, oh, you can't think of a lie quick enough. So which way would you like it? Why do I have to explain myself? Don't question me when it has nothing to do with anything. How many are you checking the cameras? I can't. He can't now. But just that day because I knew the events were going on. No. Come on, how often are you checking them? Probably like in the morning and evening to see who's coming and going. Make sure the kids are fine. Okay. And you guys were, how many months I've heard of them? And also, you got to realize that cameras just like, you doop. So it's not, I know you're checking it. It's a camera telling me, hey, I got a notification. Because there's 12 people that live in my house. And a lot of times when I was working, I would just turn the notifications off. And then you would freak out when they were off later in the day when I looked at when they're on line, you would freak out. What would he do? What did he do when he found something like he just did? Accused me. I cut out what he communicated. How would this happen? Of the attacks usually. You're going to get back together with that. I said if he stopped that, but he won't stop that, which is why he's not stopping my house. He said he's going to. Okay. We'll demonstrate that first. Right. He can't. No, I. We got to fight at the airport on the way here. You're what? I ordered my kids pizza. Texted my babysitter and said, I just ordered y'all pizza. And as I'm sitting right next to this close, he's from where? Pavodons. Nice. Go on. Okay. He says who you texting from the phone with this, with the, you know, I'm a grown adult. I don't have to. He said, he's texting. I said, the babysitter hide a screen. Everything that's happening. Everything. I don't know. Because I'll ask casually. Oh, he's talking to, but not like I need to know. I'm like, conversation, not about, but you need to know everything right next to each other. So, so he, what am I, you think I'm texting another man when I'm sitting right next to you? See how illogical it makes? No, then why it's not. Why not answer? I do out of time. Because I don't want to answer every time I touch my phone. If it wasn't every time. Right. It's like she said, my phone. We're fine for a couple months. And then some shady. But what is shady? He can't say what the behavior is. He just said that shady. It's not shady in my eyes because I don't do anything. So what is shady? Shady behavior. Give me a chance to say what it gets off. Give me, give me a little more than something. And you don't come forth with. So it's in tuition. The answer that, yeah, maybe it is. The answer that I'm thinking is, maybe I'm just overthinking things. Okay. The answer you think it's going to be is like a defense mechanism of me trying to protect myself. So I don't want to get hurt again. I understand that, but don't you think maybe you are hurting yourself by projecting this and that she's gone. But you were doing this yesterday on the way to flying to Austin. That's not changing it before you get back together. Why would she get back together? I didn't make a big deal out of it. This one makes a big deal out of it every time. Of every time I pick up a phone being a question. You can't just give me some grace. Why do you have to know? No, it's been seven years, and I've never done anything wrong. Grace period is over. It's change period, it's pissed or get off the top. So this is exactly what you did. So I understand. But he was doing this long before. And he was doing that long before, and that was also six years ago, that she's claiming that happened. So if we're going to go on that, so-- I know, but that would hurt him. True. It didn't happen. But if he wants to use that, then he needs to make a decision. Either you stop holding it over my head to change-- No, no, no. Tell me your name, but you believe today. Do you believe she did it or didn't do it? I think she did. I think she did, because-- Why do you trust that? Obviously, he loved him a lot. They have six children with him, right? And I understand when you break up with somebody and somebody new is in your life, and you guys have a fight. Sure, you would want to go back to the person you were with before-- We also were not married at the time. You know, we're dating Caleb. He and I were-- We love a logic there. That he's claiming. You were not married. We were together for two months. Does that matter? I'm saying we were dating for two months. Does that matter? It's still cheating. It's cheating. I love a good ex-- Not when you're with the current. No. Right. Not when you're with the current-- Oh, but it's fun to go back to a while. Sure. But not when you live with the person. Not when you're with your current, though. And it is a little weird that you're kind of defending her by saying, well, we weren't even married. We're just dating now. That's the logic. No. If I did it-- That's what I'm saying. If I did it, I couldn't admit to it because we weren't married. What does it matter? We had gotten into fight that day. He had to play-- Ask him where he went the very next day. Or did you go to the very next day? Back to Illinois because we had a fight that night, which is why he thinks that happened. Because it was Christmas. I went back to see my kids. We were having a fight before that. You did not go back to see the kids you went back to? Yes, I did. Back and when I came back, you had had Christmas with your ex and the children at our house. That's a lie. Also, that is a-- That's a lie. It's a lie. No, it is not. He had never come to that house ever. Okay. You told me you had Christmas with him. I never said that. I never said that. To his house. Either way, you still had Christmas with him. I said the kids to his mother's house hung out there for an hour. They had Christmas. And the only reason you had all of these details was because you asked them at teen million questions and took what I said and spun it into, I had Christmas with him. I hung out with my ex-in-laws for an hour after dropping the children off. Dare I ask what you guys think your financial score is? If that even a question-- I forgot what we were here for if I'm being honest. Well, your email was-- I think we're either leaving here together or getting a divorce. That together part seems very far away. My name's a point two. Okay, very good. Listen, here's-- Get your hammer for financial score for free. It's always at KillBamber.com. See where you stand in the world of finances. But the thing is, you want to get back together with her. Do you want to get to bed? But-- You got it? Sorry, I did the amount of-- You guys did. Do you want to get back to-- That was aggressive. Mark. Do you want to get-- Yeah, Mark. Woman, Peter. Go to Fender Woman. He doesn't watch all those people. He doesn't know who that is. Keep going, sorry. Doesn't, but he knows who it is. He just saw him. What? Woman. Do you want to get back together with him? In the grander scheme of things are right. That's very second. I can't answer that question. Grander scheme of things. Not with the way he is right now. No. Is he changing? What he changed? Can he change? I don't know. He just knows. He can't change. No, I don't think so. I think it's an intensity. Okay, he wants to go forward. What kind of support do you need? Just support me and tell me, Hi, I'm not doing that. Why would you think-- I did. That's what you really don't want. I told you. That's what responding in a different way. That's not you changing. Is it me answering this question? That's you-- That's her giving you the response you want. That's her giving me some faith and me changing after-- That's not-- Have I not been doing it for this whole thing? No, valid question, Caleb. Okay. He said I have to show him and prove him. I show him and prove him on the phone or he has access to it. Yeah. But he also just said that when I explain things that I'm over-explaining because I'm guilty. So how do you want support? Tell me how the support would look like. I'm just asking for you to explain. He just said-- And why are you questioning it? Good for thought. Yeah. He just said. He said the support he wants is you just catering to the answer he desires. I don't know what answer he wants. He just said. He just said. Well, that's not me. So you got the wrong answer. I agree. I'm on your side. If you just shut the fuck up. Sorry. Good death woman. Whoa. That's you wanting her to give a specific answer that you want. Maybe so. Yeah. So you're not changing. You're insecure. And you're like conspiracy-brained. Yeah. The conspiracies are bad. Do you see a morse conspiracy inside of you? No. They all just wrap around me in my ability to change cameras, delete cameras. Who killed Charlie Kirk? I go enjoy it. Who did 9/11? Oh. Who did 9/11? Who did 9/11? Osama. Okay. Ben Hayden. Did. Who killed JFK? Just not me. Who killed JFK? The second gunman on the grassy knoll. I don't know any other conspiracies. Is the world flat? No. Okay. So it's just her, huh? Yeah, it's just me, exactly. So why? I don't know. Why would you want to live like that? I don't want to live like that, which is why we don't live together. I can't live like that. Make sure to download the "Allow Is Budgeting" app. It's the best budgeting app for the average American. If we're not average. No. No. Far from the right. Take the free trial. See if you like his hand. Sign up for the annual version if you do because it saves a lot of money. Almost 50%. On your subscription and you get the physical version of my 30-day meal plan signed by me. Mail directly to you and the digital version of my cookbook. So check that out. I'll come on those links are below. Guys, I have the financial finances here. And we're going to go through. And we're going to do a budget. But how am I doing this? Because you guys are separated right now. Living wise. And I guess romantic, right? I guess still fine. It's been a hot minute. What's a hot minute? You don't want to keep track of days. Okay. Once a month. That's exciting. I mean, you guys. Really exciting. Well, you aren't together. So it's actually kind of like, hey, at least you still got it. All done. Who initiates? Me. Okay. I mean, it makes sense, right? You guys aren't together. Hmm. Are you guys, do you consider yourselves together at all? I mean, I'm together. You live somewhere. But are you guys. I'm here to support her for whatever she needs. Got it. But do you consider you guys in a relationship? I think it's broken right now. Yeah. Yeah, but it's broken right now. Okay. You? I just say I'm married if anybody. I mean, nobody asks because I don't leave my house. So I'm not dating. I'm not seeing anybody else. I'm not entertaining anybody. When you let you. Let me. You guys aren't. Even together. What if you did go on a date? What would happen? I would never. I'm saying if you did, what would happen? Why would you never? Because I'm still married. Okay. Legally, but like emotionally. No, you're not. Not really. This relationship is emotionally f***ing enough. I won't date after this. I'm at zero to dire. So what do you want from me here? Because I just can't. I don't know what. Why are you looking at me like that? Well, what is happening? I don't know. Why don't you tell me how to fix me? You. You. So separate. Where'd they get separate? Sure. Yeah, because I can't come. I don't know. He seems to think we can combine finances. But I don't know. How are we even having that conversation after everything? We talked about for the last hour and six minutes. Because this is my real life. This is what we've been doing for seven years. We go round and round about me cheating, me not cheating. Me cheating, me not cheating. Me trying to support you. You starting to put every bill that we have in just your name and pay for them yourself one by one. Are you kidding me? No, I didn't want that. I want to be part of the relationship, not pushed out of it like this. Why are you doing that? Why are you putting down the bills in your name? Because then she's got the other hand and she can control everything. When he moved here, he didn't have a job. So he couldn't get. It's like it's like a constant struggle for control. I mean, I don't want control. I don't need that control. But I would like to be a partner, not one of the children. You don't have to treat me like I'm one of the children. Treat me like your damn partner. Don't treat me like your kid. Don't ask what I'm doing. Don't ask where I'm at. Don't ask who I'm texting. I'm not your kid. I think it's okay to ask where you're at. Not to maybe like in a stock way. Yeah. I think you can say that. And then it builds up. Yeah, it builds up. All this animosity. Yeah. It's filled up. Yep. And then all the children. And yeah, I'm a friend to support you on it. You can't. Oh, but you have support for you. And I have friends. Yeah, this is for me. For me. Which one? I see. I just launched the brand new Hammer Elite app available on every major platform. So you can watch every show anywhere you want. You'll get three exclusive dedicated shows every single day Monday through Saturday. Refer a friend after you sign up and you get an additional 30 days of Hammer Elite access for free. Download the Hammer Elite app by using the link in the description or pinned comment down below. This is the best membership you'll ever join and that's a promise. Guys, just real quick, don't forget to take your hammer financial score at Caleb Hammer See where you stand, where you got to do better, where you're doing shit. Listen, it just takes a few minutes and it is free. Figure out where you stand in the world of money. Calebhammer.com. - Oh, because when he got locked up-- - Oh, bail. - Huh? - Spond? - You borrowed from Bond? - No, no, no, I got that so that I could cover his portion of the rent in the bills for two months. - Wait, is this a 401K loan? - 13,000. - This is a 401K loan. - That's my 401K loan. - So I went to jail and you just lived it up. You pulled out of your 401K. - I paid bills. - Yeah. - You paid the bills. 13,000 dollars worth of bills, I don't think so. - I was one month, you didn't just listen. - He has my financial statements. It was three months. I put the money away. You claim you pay all this money to say the house, who do you think made that money after you left? I had no board warning. You want me to go be homeless? No, I needed money. - Mm-hmm. - I didn't live it up. You see anything new sitting in my mouth? - Maybe if you kept in communication with me at all, what? - You were in jail, why don't you communicate with you? - Because I was reaching out to you every single day. - You were in jail for your stupid mistakes. - Yes, I was, and I was reaching out every single day, and you know what I did do was I screwed up, and I gave her the access to my phone, which was so she could pay some bills. - And I found all the cheeky sneaky he was doing. - Oh my phone. - Yes, this is not what you're accusing her of. - Yes, he was the one doing it the whole time, not me. (laughing) - So, so-- - But he's not in there. - He's not in there. - He's not in there. - He's not in there. - What is it? - What is it? - What is it? - What is it? - Months and months into this. - Oh, that's funny. It's funny when it was him doing it. - Pause. You tell me what he did. - Homa, talking to somebody, he had a chance. - He's not, he's not, he's not cheating. - That's what I've got. - Well, yes, it definitely could be. - It definitely could be. - On somebody halfway across the country that you cannot physically, that's how it works. - Thank you. - That's how it works. - That's not even true. - Your interpretation of it. - Emotionally meant to you. - Okay, tell me what he was doing, you. - But you're saying, like he said, it was just talking to people on social media of what I would call inappropriate conversations. All of the messages with him and that friend, the way he spoke to me to his mother, like there were texts in there about his mom, just the way they were just dogging and saying stuff. Couple, I don't know if they were necessarily dating sites, but they were like links to like paid either like chat. - She thinks I was in chat group or a chat room. - Yeah, I can link on your phone. - Like over your chat room. What are you doing? - What are you doing? - I don't know what you're doing. - Like a log in. - What was a log in? - What was the link? - I have no idea. - I don't even remember what it was in there. - But it was like one of those things. - It was probably something that I was like, I was like, I'll do this and then I didn't do anything. - But why did you create the account? - But why would you-- - Yeah, we were still together. - We were together. - We were together then. Why would you create the account? - Can you not watch when we're together? - Oh no, this wasn't for, this was for like meetups. Yeah, you can watch, I watch, that's cool. I'm not mad about sites. It was a creating an account to talk to people or like the web camgirls kind of things. Those, that's different. - And you were doing camgirls? - That's what this thing was. - Now, who was this person he was talking to? Is this venting about you? It wasn't flirting. He wasn't exchanging news. - No, his mom was venting. No, there was like, I think-- - Who's this person across the country he was talking to? - I don't know, I didn't know. There was somebody across the country. - No, what did they say? - I'm saying, that was just a general statement. - Are we just learning about this? - No, we're just having a whole general. - It was just a general statement. This person could be halfway across the country. - Who? - Who? - What person he was talking to? - I was just saying it. - There was like two girls that I said something to. - Oh no, who is it? - And who is it? - Where'd you find them? Where'd you find them? - I don't know, it was on Facebook or something like that. - A random girl on Facebook? - I can't go on Facebook. I can't go on Facebook. - If I go on Facebook and a dude likes my picture, I'm fucking, even though he lives in a whole nother state. But he can talk to girls. Do you see the-- - How would you find them on Facebook? - I don't know. - No, come on, don't bullshit me, what do you mean? - I have no idea. - What they popped up and recommended with the Facebook dating, what was it? - On a post or something. - So why do you think it's okay to reach out? - They commented, they commented, they commented on my comment. Something like that. - You know, funny how that works. The double standards, the double standards. - That is, that is wild double standards. - This is the same thing you're saying that I'm doing. - I understand that, but you've been doing. - But there's been no behavior like that. - What do you mean, you're talking to other women though? - So, over a year and a half years. - You had no behavior from me ever. - That was six months prior to you even getting into my phone. - Oh, that's just my phone. - Do you hear that, or more? That's just what I found. - And we were going through a rough time, sure. And I was probably drinking and stupid messing with my phone. - And what if she did that? - Then we'd be sitting right here doing the same thing, fighting back and forth over it. I mean. - Well, why do I have to do something that I didn't do that you did? You're doing a double standard. - Okay. - What? - I didn't do any of that. - What other sneaky behavior did you find? You said sneaky behavior. It was just camcrow stuff. That was it? - It was that. It was the. - It's not gray, but I mean. - It was the social media stuff. A lot of it because social media has always been an issue. Like he said, just talking messaging women. - What was he saying though? - I don't even remember. But it's the point that you even do it because if I'm even on, if I was on Facebook or anything in a dude reached out to me, it would be a whole thing. - Okay. So I got you two 401K loans, 13,000 and 2,300. And that counting the minimum to payments 'cause it gets taken from your pay before it hits. - Yeah. - So let's see this. What are we looking at here? We got, okay, profit sharing, plan to see. So it's someone draws and fees. - Yeah, those are mine. - Okay, got it. But I'm trying to get the. - Yeah, I found it. - Here's another 401K loan. No, this is the one I already put down. - Yeah. - Because you gave multiple months? - I gave it. - It's more, I don't know why you bring it out like that. - Don't get close to me. - No, I'm not. I'm just looking. - You back up. - I'm back. - Yeah, I'm back up. - I smell good. I don't care what you say. - You guys don't smell bad. So I have to suffer through many bad smelling things. You do not smell bad. Do I smell bad? People say I look like I smell bad. Do I smell bad? - No, no. - Your attitude's a little shitty sometimes, but. - Woman, you're a whore. - I mean, it was a married whore. - Many marriages. This is just more retirement thing, right? - Yeah, that, I don't know why it printed out like that. I honestly just downloaded like my statement and it sent all of that. - Now there's 401k loans. Why am I being told you blame financial law? Financial audit on them. 'Cause I've never recommended that. - Yeah, I don't know. - Is this just like earlier when you said, the fuck I say, I don't like averages when I actually do? - There's something in there. I don't know, my brain, not. - Oh, I can tell. - Not working. - You're cooked. - I think, honestly, I don't know. I don't know. Now you're yelling at me and I'm overwhelmed. - What do you think the show is? Okay, you have a credit, one card. - Me or him, you're just waiting towards him. - You're not, you're waiting the pen behind you. - To what direction? - To the little boo-boo. - Is the little boo-boo pointed this way? - It is. - No, it's not. - Okay. - You suck at everything. - Okay, buddy, what are you doing? Why do you have such a large bounce? Oh, over the limit, credit one, account, $800. - I don't know. I think like we were talking about with the feast in famine situation, I think sometimes-- - Is it ever a feast? - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, you feast on credit. Lots of people use lots of interest. It's a $41 minimum to payment. - Okay. - And then here, you have a premier bank card. - Okay, well, you're spending on it. Sounds like famine. - To make up for whoever needs what? - Who needs what? - That's not-- - Who knows? - Who knows? - You should know, you're the one swiping. - Well, let's look through the statement and then see exactly what it's been. - Well, you started over the limit. Now you ended at $5.38, 74, with a minimum monthly payment of $38. Now, with that-- - But I know you made $5,000 a month. Your bills aren't $5,000 a month, so why are you using your credit cards? - I know. - To doby. - Why are you using your credit cards if you're breaking? - Credit score is $500. - Yeah. - Well, I don't even know what to say. - Shit. - It just went his cash. - It just went involves money, you know what? - I didn't find that out until today. I had no idea he doesn't use his bank account. - You didn't send us your cash app or he's spending all your money. - Why didn't you send us your cash app? - I did. - I said, you did it. - No, you did it. - It's just separate. - Yeah, I can show you. I sent two separate emails. - They're saying no? - It just didn't go through. - And they're better. - Well, I have this, the newer. Credit one, you have another one, dude. Okay. - Whoa, this is the highest credit one I've ever seen. And they always do small limits. 3,328 dollars and 26 cents. Again, it was an Adobe subscription on that previous one. What was that, someone that needed? - Like Adobe. - Yes. - Adobe. - Adobe, it just is Adobe. - No, it just is Adobe. - Yeah, it's probably. - 100, 100,000 is your minimum of the payment on this. - Scam. - Why are you paying for a scam for 30 dollars? - You're paying for a scam. - How's it a scam? - There's no person responsibility. It's a museum. - San Jose. - San Jose. - Well, that's where it's based out of. It's immediately a conspiracy to you, though. - No, I'm saying that it's probably something that I signed up for. - It's not a scam. - And didn't, and didn't opt out of it in the 30 days or whatever, so I didn't charge for it every month. - For see, that's the way he perceives things. If it doesn't. - And I'm like, well, they scam me because I forgot about it. - That didn't scam me, that's your problem. For getting it. - They didn't do it, but they're praying on you to do that so they. You're a victim, you're a self, you just want to be a victim. 45 dollar minimums of payment on the $642.82 balance on a premier card. You got a Latvian there, buddy. Yeah, I know. Why? Famine? Yeah. Fuck you. Work more. Yeah. Get a better job. Get you guys, of course, for career certifications, I'll get you one in construction. You can be a construction project manager. People have used that, turned them into six figure jobs. I'll get you guys that. I'll get you a set up for a credit, sorry, not credit, credit ones. I would never do that. Yeah, no. For a time checking account, first you can get hundreds of dollars from signing up. I was telling him to get one forever. I'll do it. You'll get hundreds of dollars. For signing up with my link, maybe KU, you got United Health Care, you may owe $1,113. I do. I owe a little bit more than I owe more. How much? Like? Are you going to get on a payment plan? Yeah, I have. How much you owe? It's like $12, $69, $43, I think is what it was last time. Okay. What's your payment plan? I don't have a specific payment plan because this is all of my specialists together, so I've got a call. And get on it. Alloyah Health. That's health care as well. That one I'm paying $35. A month? Yeah. What's your balance? I think-- I only made one monthly payment. It was like $300, right? $260, yeah. Yeah. It started at $300. That's my doctorate. Okay. Natural gas. Well, that's just your monthly payment. Okay. Okay. Capital One Auto. You. What's your car, woman? It is a 2020. Is that a 2020? Kia Minivan, Sedona. Sedona. The finance is our problem here. I don't think it's your major thing. There's just an extreme level of trust and conspiracies of chaos in this household. You owe $2,3361. I don't know. I have it down to $9,988. How? I don't know, but I promise you I do. Okay. That's fine. I believe you. Yeah. $517 is your minimum monthly. What's your interest rate on that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. First from here, it's a closed card. Why do you owe on this? What? Do I owe or why? Why? Why is it over the limit on a closed card? What the fuck? Your vehicle's worth $3,200? What? Is that a horse? That's insane. What? Your glue work on your car is less than what you owe on it. Oh, yeah. It's terrible. That's why I'm stuck in it. I have to say it off. It'll be paid on this. Closed account, you owe $564, but it's in collections. It is. Verizon collections, $974. No, not yet. Collections, $839. No, this one's open. This is not collection. Oh, Jefferson Capital, so that's a collection. The collections is open. $895. Won't this fall off soon? No, I figured out what this is for finally like this week. It depends. It might fall off after seven years. It's for furniture. Here's the thing. We have seen many a times on this show and in reality. That they can see you go to court and get a garnishment on your wages. For something that's like eight years old. This is from like an eight year debt. Just because it falls off your credit doesn't mean you don't owe it. They can come get you. Really? Okay, so lots of collections like that. Okay, but here's your spending. There's like six. Okay, that's a lot for a normal person. That's a lot. The normal person has zero. Clear. I want to be normal though. I want to be normal. Okay, here's your time checking account. You're spending. This is what matters to me. For you. It's not all this thing. I'll tell you. It's Chick-fil-A. It's going into getting some bullshit. It's Amazon. It's Amazon. It's Amazon. Tick-tock shop. Tick-tock shop. Tick-tock shop. Tick-tock shop. Tick-tock shop. Amazon burglar. Let Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon. Burger King family dollar. Tick-tock shop. Tick-tock shop. Tick-tock shop. Show me. Pull it up. What? Tick-tock shop. Absolutely not. Fireworks. Not even a- We had a great Fireworks show. How do you fold shut? Later savings account. Nothing. Okay. Who's we? Because I think that's what I wanted to do. You weren't here for the Fireworks? You lit them all in the yard. Get me that. Do you see how he immediately is like we? You were there. You were there. I'm just wondering because the year before you went. Why would he be looking at lashes? You're statement. Oh my God. He told me he's spending like $1. $1. $1. $2. $2. Where's your trademark? A video dongle thing. Clothes. Bionic. I'm Z. Think. Why? 401K. I don't even know what that is. No, that's in my cart. You're not in my purchases. Go to my purchases. I opened what you gave me. I thought you were smart. You're the one who knows everything. No, not just everything. I just opened what you gave me, dude. Go to my purchases. What? A little card. Touch the phone. Hair spray dongle. So it's been seen. Stop. Not all of it. I don't even know this shit is. I know you know. I know you know. Purple thing. Purple thing. What is this? What are these things? I'm addicted to the take out squishy auctions. Do so on one. Do so on one. Do so on one. Do so on one. Auctions. Auctions. That's what all those are. Oh, it's endless. It's squishy auctions. It's bad. I have over 100 squishy at the house that I've always got. It's endless. Wait, no. Wait. You can't get me to yell at me. Oh, bag. You have enough for a bag. It's a prairie pretty bag. Girl, you're poor. Why are you buying the person who's not poor, again? I thought of you during one of the auctions. Okay. This is heavy. Is this something in there? No, that's it. This is that heavy. That's what you're gambling on? Look, they're for my kids. No. Everything I bought is for Christmas. Is it a candle? No. It's a squishy. But the box got damaged and shipping. So now when we stress you out, you can just sit there and squish. And I got it at a really good deal because I got it on the top option. No, you should go on the auctions. I promise you, see, look. I love them. There's 31 viewers. Well, maybe that seller sucks. You want less viewers. What's your rent? What's your rent? What's your rent? $3,100 a month. What? Don't live there. Our area, no matter where we live, it's going to be super expensive. What's your gas-electric water internet? My internet is $100. Gas-electric. My electric is 600. My gas is 250 to 300 just for the house. 275. My water is 100. OK, utilities are 1075. That's one of the bigger ones. We have foam bill. I have another car payment too. I pay my car payment for my 20-year-old. So I pay 265. Foam bill. Foam bill. Crazy. Foam bill. $185 a month. What was that car payment for your kid? Oh, 260 for her cars. A 12 for your minimum fee payments. In my car's 517. I already got that. That was included. How many kids live with you? Eight. Yes. I can't even off the top of my head know what the T.P. funder groceries is. I can tell you what I pay for groceries. I pay between 2000 and 25. No, no. I don't. No, if you go back and look at my statement, I pay 2000. And we'll call it 2000. I cook every night. We'll call it 2000. T.P. fund, everything else. I remember we'll try to do 600. In addition to groceries. Oh, no, I include all that in my grocery money. That's not groceries. Everything. Groceries, toilet paper. Okay. Well, I'll give an extra 250. Like school things and blah blah blah blah. Medical healthcare. Are there copays on a monthly basis? Yes, but they fluctuate. So I average it out, please. 150. Are there any pets? Yes. That is so stupid. You have eight kids in this house. I have pets. What pets? What pets? I have a Frenchie. I have a Weenie. And then I have a Husky mix. 150-dollar pet insurance. I already have pet insurance. How much? It comes out in my paycheck. Because it's part of my health insurance. How much for pet food and pet supplies monthly basis? I put that in my grocery bill. That doesn't make sense. Okay, then stop. Okay, then stop. Okay, then stop. There's two cats and two cats. Four kids. There's a rabbit. Yes. How much for gas and from drive drive? 300. Only because I have to take kids to school. Car insurance. 485 in that pays for all of my children. I pay for my two adult children. You need to be in this budget. Your budget? My. Therapist. Therapist. Isn't that in the co-pays? Yeah, that's covered by the insurance. I pay the insurance. Okay. You're underwater by $200 for the dollar. These are some of the most exciting expenses I've ever heard of that rent. No wonder you're taking out these 401ks just to pay the rent. You guys either have to be together. You're going to have to give up these cars and get a beater or something. This is like. It wouldn't even be worth it. Cause when I'm losing, I'm 12 months, 13 months away from paying off my car. Why would I? car payments you don't break even. So shit, this isn't a debt situation. You literally just, your expenses are too high. It's because you have too many kids. Um, cause how are you gonna have a big enough place for all these kids without spending that much in rent? Shit. And I don't even have like a massive massive. I have a nice house. Yes. Shut up. I'm thinking I would try to minimize our lifestyle as much as possible. Your meal prepping everything. We're trying to we're scrapping, scrapping, scrapping, we're eating cheap, cheap, cheap. Yeah, I do that. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. We have to cut down on everything and then you just have to make more money somehow. You're gonna, if you, if you choose single mom life and you have nine kids, cause you can't close your pussy, then you. There's 10. You forgot one. You said nine at home. There's 10. Well, there's eight living at home, but I'm okay. Shut the fuck up. Shut up woman. Shut up woman. Shut up woman. Shut up woman. How are you going to get the full shot? Shut up woman. You need all the info. I can't think when you yeah. I'm sorry. And you will not stop yapping. Ballot point. It's meal prepping all this shit. That's what we have to do. And then if you choose single mom life or get back with him or get with someone else, if you choose single mom life, you have to work 80 hours a week to pay for it. That's what you do. I work. He does that. That's what you make. I was bringing 70. Yes, sadly. Hey, then every kid needs to start working. That's over 16 or paying for their own shit. No, they might need to start working. I had to work a 16 to help. Yeah. I mean, they might have to. You don't have to pay for your own part. They probably should right. You need to let that kid go. Probably take care of those under the roof. You need to let that one off. But still, that doesn't even make us to break even. She's still thousands off. I used to bartend and I've been looking at going back to bartending, but I'm scared if I do that. You don't have any problems. That's going to arise. I'm sorry. This financial this is this is unless there is something on my head. This is beyond me. I'm going to pay for both of you individually to sit down with the financial advisor we use when things are too complicated. So we're going to do that. That's what we're going to do. I'm sorry. We're going to go into the post show. Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to call the roommate. We are going to get that alternative perspective. And I know this shit's going to go off the rails. That always does when we call another person. So join us for the post show. It's good to hammer financial square. I mean, you don't want a house. There's nothing. The retirement you're born to get it 0.5 out of 10. Clearly. Get yours at Caleb hammer.com. Now join hammer. Elite three premium shows. Incredible shows every day. Six days a week. That's why there's over 140,000 monthly members to our network. Hammer. Elite. 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