Consider Us Considered: Monday, November 9th, 2026

♪ Good morning, girlies, it's the tallos ♪ ♪ It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes ♪ ♪ It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know ♪ ♪ We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast ♪ I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Monday. Hope everybody had an amazing weekend. I know I did, 'cause I sell it. I read a book and it might be the best book I've ever read, period. I had a very similar weekend. We partied so hard this weekend. We partied so hard if you guys weren't wondering if I celebrated my birthday thoroughly. She was giving our little sister Margot when she was 17 having a week-long celebration. Not even that. It's 'cause Max is birthdays today after me, so it's just a birthday weekend. Friday Saturday. Friday Saturday. So my birthday's Friday, Max's birthday Saturday. Of course, we're gonna continue the celebrations on Sunday. What else are we doing? We did bus, club, bounce house, another bounce house. We literally beach. We literally did as much as you can, like, party hardy as a young mother. It's a pregnant woman. You guys almost had to go to the hospital. I was exhausted just from standing up. It was like a dream. It was really nice. It was a dream birthday for women of a certain age, you know? Exactly. I'm still managed to fight. I'm like, "Read a whole novella." Oh, yeah, I did a lot of reading this weekend, which we'll do a little book recap without spoilers. Like, not recap. You know, the book doesn't react to tomorrow. We've been so blessed we've gotten these early copies. We're not gonna let you spend the day. No, of course. We'll share it with you. And also, we have a story about news that the book is making so we can like- Just want to say like that- We love it. Oh, we love it. I still have about 20 pages left because I can't- I finished it Friday night. I can't talk about it until tomorrow and I really wanted to be fresh in my mind. I feel like maybe the 20 juiciest pages are ahead of me? pages are ahead of me. So I did pause and I will finish it tonight because I was enjoying it so much. Yeah, I was enjoying as well. I finished partita, finished daddy issues and celebrated thoroughly. We had a beautiful Shabbat Friday night. We did. We did. We ate so well this weekend. We got a chef. That's what we were like glowing. That was like my birthday celebration. Celebration is I got a chef for Shabbat at my house. So like we can celebrate. Need more chefs. Need we ate so good. We didn't have to cook. I might have eaten like two whole like 16 ounce T-bone steaks. He just kept slicing them and put them on the platter and I was like sure. Yeah. I might have eaten like enough meat for like three grown men. I just couldn't stop. I think you have a a living chef. I know. And gestational diabetes are not, you know. But you have been that's like closer than most of us get. That actually is true. And I guess I do. Yeah. You don't take advantage. You're not like make me a T-bone. But why not? No, I'm always like siloing him into like creative funks being like make me better noodles. It's a creative fun. And also the chef cooked the T-bone on the grill. Ben could do that. You could. It wasn't like he panseered it in a way. Right. That was sort of out of his wheelhouse. No, he was very much like he learned that like horned on blue. No, he learned it and let's give it a taste. So I think Ben's capable of making you T-bone. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just ask, you know, ask for what you want. And then we celebrate Maxie's first birthday. Huge mile swim for maybe and for a mama. Huge mile swim for maybe on his first birthday taking his first steps. It was like sort of like it was so first. It was so first. Not him showing up Ruby. Yeah. I haven't even shared the fact that my 18 month old doesn't walk. He is my son. But then Ruby took his first steps. Of course. So on Friday night Max took his first steps. Like we were all screaming like at the top of our lungs and Ruby is just sort of like watching taking note. And then the next day Olivia comes over and one thing about Olivia is like she's going to get it done. If you want your kids to learn how to ride a bike, let Olivia do it because she's not afraid of letting them just go. Whatever the opposite of like gentle hands off parenting. She's just like very, you know, figured out all of a sudden I'm sitting down. Olivia's like walk in Ruby and she let's go. And I was like, oh, he took three steps. Now he's not walking per se, but he's taken a step. Yeah, they're now that the two of them are sort of like going back and forth, taking a step. Max is like really walking. Like he can stand on his own. Ruby's like taking a couple of steps and then falling into that. That's what Max is doing to. Maybe he's taking a couple of steps and then not and then just like giving up. It was just like a big weekend. It was a big weekend. But now the two babies are like, oh, we can. This is what we're doing. Oh, we're walking. This is what babies are doing now. Okay, we're probably like inspired by one another. They sort of had a walk off. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely had a walk off. They were like, oh, I could take two steps. I could take three. They're so cute. It was amazing. Like it was really, I was screaming at the top of my lungs. How I thought I would react when Ruby started walking is exactly how I would react. I screamed, so loud that Max started crying. You screamed so loud that Max twice. Screaming. I couldn't believe it. Like it was just and I was screaming for Max and for Ruby. Like it was such a thrill. And I have seen babies walk for the first time. So I think it was either Harry or Charlie when I was there too. Like it's a thrill. Yeah. They're fucking walking bitch. Yeah. And like I'm getting into a place where I can no longer carry this kid. Like he is so big and I'm so big and I'm so weak. And it's just like it's become a great inconvenience having a late walker while being pregnant. For a while, it's a great convenience. Yes, it is. I love a container or a stroll or you know. Yeah. At this point though, like I see a lot of pregnant women. I see pregnant women being like so upset like I can't hold my baby anymore, but I would love to. And I'm like, no, I physically can't hold my baby. Like what are you guys talking about? Like people be like stopping because they have to. Like medically, you're not. I'm stopping like no one's telling me to stop. I have to. I can't hold him for more than three seconds. I need to keep doing my arms. So like jelly. So I'm just sort of what I'm sort of I'm allowed to do. Well, so it was a very special weekend. It really was. And we read. And we read. We ate. We read. We played. We left. We walked. It's so much stake in the last few days. And then I had leftovers for dinner last night. So that was like, because don't forget we were wind nine down Thursday night. Right. We expect back's T-bones. That's right. So if we're looking like extra jacked, that's why. And we're two girls are like, really never get steak because like people go out to restaurants all the time and order a strip steak. We really can't. We happen to have two opportunities to have kosher T-bones back to back with one another. So if we're looking like maybe that's why I can't hold food. We like so indulge. If we're looking, yeah, bigger, it's all muscle. And then we also barbecue on Saturday. So more burger, more beef for the ladies. True. We're beefy. We can. We're protein maxing. It's actually good because you know, I do get um iron depition and pregnancy. Iron is so good for you. I heard it's so good. It's so good for you. It's delicious too. Gotta be aware of the old ticker. Oh, I don't think we're there because we had steak twice. I don't know. I'm feeling like a little clogged, you know. I'm also wearing my hair natural today. It's just a crazy thing for me. I know natural beauty. I know what everyone's thinking. Like, oh, your hair literally looks amazing. I would kill for my hair to look like that. And it's like, well, maybe that's your truth. But for me, like, this is the craziest thing I've ever done. I just, I just sort of took a bath last night and then fell asleep. And I, I can only do so much. You know, I wasn't. So it is what is. I'm getting blood after this. And we're all just going to have to endure my crazy hair. Did you do this like two weeks ago? Yeah, but I had it like back. And also two weeks ago, I did like flat iron the top and put a little product in the bottom. Today, like, she's so crazy. I know. But today's a really crazy, like not even a product, not even a flat iron. Sometimes it's just flat iron up here, you know, nothing. Great. Brave. I just twisted it in a clock clip and I said, clock, clip, do your thing. Sometimes a clock clip is sort of like a very natural natural out. No, like it twisted. If you tie it tight enough and like leave it there for a little bit, it'll blow your hair a little bit. Oh, it's beautiful. I saw it. Do you see Matilda Jurf putting her hair in a shinyong with a lip liner only? It's actually a very cool video. I didn't see that. It's a cool video. Is Matilda Jurf back? Like when I saw this video, I said to myself, Matilda Jurf is back. We've had this conversation before, right? About how like she was going to Jurf got Jurf. She kind of got successfully canceled. Yeah, look at this video. Okay, she's got a party blowout. She's doing a twist. She's in the car and some of them the backseat is filming her like twist. Oh, and she's doing like a French twist, but instead of using one of the, she's doing a clock clip. That skill. I just want to say this looks insanely beautiful. That's very skillful. One like bump and that thing's falling out. It doesn't look secure. But is the Jurf not back? How many views does it have? I don't know. You go to views. Oh, and speaking of views, Jackie and I are so excited to announce our four-year consideration campaign. Yeah, that's right. We're rolling out nationwide billboards in New York and LA just to chat with our constituents about what's going down. I think a lot of people maybe don't even know that we are eligible to be eligible for a nomination. I think a lot of people know. I feel like it's kind of like sort of like an unspoken thing. And so we rolled up, billboards, if you're in LA, like pick your heads up, look up, Libreia. I don't even know where they are, but there's a bunch. I saw the thing. It was like Libreia. I saw someone commented. I saw this on Libreia. Oh, really? So let's check her text. And she was like, I'm in LA, like where are the billboards? I'll go like take pictures and stuff. I'm like, Braia. But there are other billboards because like we've got pictures of them. They're like near different sorts of stations. There's Braia for sure. Yeah. Okay, hold on. Olivia actually sent it to me. And the Matilda Jurf video has 1.6 million views. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah. Okay, here's where they are. Ready? Oh, I guess this. Oh, Braia Rosewood. I don't know what I need to say. It's Braia. The Braia on the corner of Libreia and Rosewood. Highland and fountain. Highland and fountain on the corner. Okay, the way that they describe these locations. Western ELWO Hollywood freeway. And third in La Jolla. That one makes sense. Third and La Jolla. Okay. And then in New York, we'll be on taxi tops. Just, you know, if you're in New York or like, get off your phone, pick your head up, look around. You might see two sexy podcasters. Feel free to take like a vertical video and put an emotional song on top and tag us. And the Golden Globes, of course. And tag the Golden Globes, yeah. Oh, and so by the way, the Golden Globes, they have a month to make their decision. So obviously, we're just, we're just sort of, we're allowing them to consider us. Yes, we're considering, being considered, but you know, we actually won't be together on the actual day where we find out. When is it? It's when I'm in New York. I know, we'll have to figure that out. But also, I need to find out, how do they actually announce the nominees? Will we find out before that we've known? - No, you find out with the world. - That's Sozak Af. - I'm not working out early. - Well, I think it's in LA, so I think it might be like after the toast. - Oh, okay, 'cause I feel like I'm gonna find out from my foot, like someone's gonna be like you guys. - No, we have to watch it live. I always see people like on their tour buses like watching it live. Like we have to do it. - Okay. - This is like literally our only chance. And I just wanna say, I feel in such a unique and blessed position because I win either way. You know what I mean? If we get nominated, like we're just like two little girls nominated for a Golden Globe, like that's insane. We're winners. We don't even really need to win. If we don't win, like I don't have to go to a televised major event. Probably the fattest I'll ever be so pregnant, so swollen, flying six hours. Like I'm in such a good spot. - We are in win as they say. - It's a win, win, like we're in such a good spot. - Mm-hmm. - What genuinely, what more could you ask for? - Nothing. Why? - I'm just, we're just asking to be considered, asking to be considered for your consideration. - And that's it, like if you consider us and you decide not to, fine, huge mistake. But okay. - But consider it considered. Okay. - Consider us considered. And even if we don't become nominated and we can't say like the Golden Globe nominated because we can't say the Golden Globe considered. It would legally, like that is considered. - We can say the Golden Globe considered. - And I think that we should like update our artwork and everything to say the Golden Globe considered. - We should update our artwork period. - And we will, like when I'm in, like, the last time I wanted to update it, like you weren't in a place to update it. - When did you wanna update it? - Like when I was skinny. - I feel like you, there was a time when we were both skinny. - And we should have done it. - No, not recently. - Yes, well recently meaning like, a year and a half, two years ago. - When I was, when you got pregnant with Ruby? - A year and a half, two years ago. - Two years, sorry. - That was big. - No, no. - Yeah, every year and a half years old. - Sorry, two, two, like last, that hampton summer. - Oh. - Why should I have that name? - Why we weren't shooting new cover art, that summer? - And it was too funny, it's because that summer we thought we were like fat and disgusting. - Because we're idiots. - Where's the stupidest people like. - We should have done it that summer. - Why we weren't shooting new artwork every day that summer? - When I see pictures from that summer. Okay, I actually have to scroll. - You look sick actually. - You look like sick positive. - You look like you have an eating disorder. - Yes, I did. I didn't have an eating disorder. - It's giving Bob a head. - Thank you. - Yeah, no, and now that we didn't do it then, like probably the only time we will line up, like skinny-wise, it's gonna be, what are you doing? - It's gonna be a couple of tours. - It's gonna be a decade. - It's gonna be a couple of years for sure. - It is what it is. - AI? - Or we could, like, we do have a lot of photos from that time. - We could try to put something together. - Yeah. - Like a merch shoot photo. - But we also have to, like, think like, what is our vibe going? - Not only that, if somebody-- - If we took a photo from that summer and made it the artwork. And then that somebody brand new, saw the artwork, and was like, "Oh, I'd love to listen to that show." At least for me, they would say, "What show is this?" Where's the girl from the cover? I don't wanna mislead people. - No. It's just, I think I'd rather mislead people than what-- - Then look away. - You know, then have what we have going on right now. - I happen to love our artwork. It is a little chuggy. But at its core, like, we are chuggy, you know? Even though we're not, we're chuggy. - No, it's chuggy in the ways that we're not. And not chuggy in the ways that we are. I don't wanna talk about it too much because it's just, I don't wanna rail on us. And in talking about it, I have to rail on us. - Yeah, and I'm fiercely protective of us and our artwork. - I don't wanna hear it. But just know, like, if you're thinking it, I'm thinking it 100 times worse, you know? You don't have to tell us, we know. - What are the stories like today? - Good, like light, fair, nothing groundbreaking. - Really? - Yeah. 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Thank you, Tirt Pannians. You're welcome. Tirt Pannians, our first story Taylor Swift and Carly Claus reunite at Travis Kelsey's Chief Game against the Jets. So Taylor attended her husband's game at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday. She was joined by her former BFFL Carly Claus. Now the two haven't been seen together in years. Carly did go to take Taylor's wedding as we know. I know. Like we have been given so many signs over the last like couple of years. Like they're good, right? She went to 1989. Carly sat in this stand. She was pulled into the VIP tent, eventually. But she bought tickets and sat in the stands like. As far as we know, she was one time her best friend of mine. They were on the vote cover together, being best friends. They did everything together. And every random person on earth was in the VIP tent. And Carly Claus wasn't. 1,000 songs of Taylor's like, are not confirmed, but like are about Carly, right? Like when the words of a sister come back and whispers, the truth she was not. And then also Ashley Avignon, you know, Ashley Avignon. She is the only confirmation that we have that like there was some sort of break up between obviously they went from being spotted everywhere together to being nowhere together. Is Ashley, who is Taylor's like confidant, you know, she's been around for a while. She was liking tweets about Carly Claus, um, basically confirming what people had thought that part of the break up. And it did get, you know, kind of messy when Carly Claus was getting married. And when she was getting married, she was like kind of in Scooter Bronze World. And Ashley Avignon was liking tweets pretty much confirming that Carly was sharing things about Taylor to Scooter, like Taylor's biggest op. And that's really what, what didn't. And if you listen to some of the songs that people think are about Carly and Taylor with that understanding, like, yeah, when the words of a sister come back and whispers that proves she was not like, yeah, yeah, or Carly and Taylor were girlfriend and girlfriend and they broke up. Well, you're going down the gala rabbit hole, which of course I would never, but if I were, yeah, you could also interpret only about this dress so you could take it off. Yeah, you could interpret a lot of music to be musically. I think the most compelling piece of evidence of Gailor is hold on. I have to find the lyric like hold on. It's a 1989. It's such a random, but somebody pointed this out once and like, I actually can't listen to the song without it. I believe it's a 1989. Oh, did I read the note on the Polaroid and it's from 1989, which is definitely the Carly era. Yeah, bad one. Yeah. Did I read the note on the Polaroid picture? They don't know how much I miss you. And it's like clearly the word was miss her. It rhymed so much better. Didn't read the note on the Polaroid picture. They don't know how much I miss her. Like, that sounds better. I agree that that sounds better, but that's like not. I don't know. That's not proof. That's the absence of proof. I don't know. I know places obviously comes to mind. I know places we won't be found. If you wanted to, if you could, obviously, I don't want to. And then like when Taylor was queer bathing deal. Yeah. When Taylor was queer bathing. You're talking about you need to calm down music video and she was the bisexual flag. Yeah. So the Gailor is obviously not me, but the Gailor is like to them. I was about to say to us, to them. That was like, that was the climax of Gailor because it was almost, it was all but a confirmation. And I thought we were going to find out, like, who cares? Like, bisexual, whatever. Like, it's so not a big deal. But then she has, you know, and recently written, you know, she always writes these like dire entries and these prologues talking about, you know, how she invested so much in her female friendships because people were just obsessed with her male relationships. And then, you know, people started looking into her female run relationships like thinking that those were real relationships, pretty much like saying, no, I'm not gay. Um, I don't know. I don't know. There's the Diana Agron of it all. I've never go there. She dressed as the bisexual flag that was just a form of orientation. We are bathing. Oh, okay. So that's interesting. Where was that a statement on learned self? I neither. I don't really, I try not to look too hard into the, you need to calm down, era, because in the, you know who loves to look into it. Oh, my guy, the Swiftologist. Yeah. Well, and this is what I think the Swiftologist would say. And I agree. I can't look too deep into that time because that was a pop star in crisis. Um, she had her documentary and she's talking about like turning 30 and she doesn't know like where she fits in the pop space. And this is before she becomes the most famous woman in the world. It's right before COVID and folklore. So she is sort of like this floundering. And the thing about lover that's so crazy, it's like actually a good album, but the way it's marketed and the whole you need to calm down is even me, me, the song and me, the music video pop star in crisis pop star, the pink hair pop star in crisis. She doesn't need to do stick like that anymore. She's like cemented herself as like a Beatles level artist. But you guys, we forget there was a time where that wasn't the case. And she was coming into this era of like not knowing what to do with herself. And I think feeling like kind of old in the pop girl space. And, you know, the Olivia Rodriguez, everybody's turned into like in fringe on her a little bit. And she's back into a corner. So she just like does this like equal rights thing because it's not that I don't think she believes in equal rights. But she had long been criticized for not being political. And I just want to say like supporting gay rights is like, yeah, like it's not I don't think it's controversial. It's not brave. Like everybody supports gay rights. Not everybody. It's not like a hot take. And I think that she went so hard for this thing. It's like, you know, we all agree like duh. And I just I don't read too much into her decision making there because I don't feel like it was powered by like a truth. So that would you would fall into the queer meeting category then neither I it would fall into like people pleasing like, you know, she's gotten so much shit for so many years that she wasn't political. And I think that she thought maybe that's why she was in this crisis mode. Like, oh, maybe I didn't say enough. And so she starts like saying shit, you know, I just and I'm not saying that I don't think she believes in those rights. We all of course, you know, I just, I don't know. It was a weird time. Maybe she was just like throwing out a life raft. Yes. Exactly. And like, yeah, you know what it was, performative. Not fake. I don't think it was queer, but I don't think she does. It was just performative. But not an admission of bisexuality. I don't think so. Okay. Because that actually might have if she was bisexual, that would have been a good time for her to share that. Yeah. One it would like, you know, make news and like, you know, people would be talking about it. And it would be kind of huge for the community. So I think if there was ever a time to have like spoken it, it would have been then. And she didn't. And she has since said like, no, people look too much into my female friendship. Okay. So we're ruling out gay or killer. We are also back to these two. Like, I feel that's not X is like reuniting. No. I think like, you know, you have a friendship breakup. And like, yeah, of course you can get back together. What's interesting is that if the reasons they broke up or what I believe them to be, which is just like, you know, sharing Taylor's secrets with scooter, to me, that's sort of like, not come back. Yeah. Like you can't come back from that. Like, of course, friendship things happen. And you can forgive people. But I feel like for Taylor, maybe me specifically too, like that's sort of a line. Like with her, I feel that she doesn't cross. Maybe it was a misunderstanding. Maybe or maybe like, sometimes forgiveness can be achieved. You know, like I do. I think that even like, if you think of some of your enemies, not your worst enemies. But like, or even someone who you were friends with that thing, you saw us hide them and you're like, I don't, um, up with this shit. I will not put them. Um, if years later, like, they come to your wedding, you're in different places. You remember what you were like, wedding is what I'm saying. Because you made it a thousand people. If, but one thing about me, I'm not afraid again. And they came and they paid for your concert. Like they still were trying to support you. And like, all of us not lost. The idea that Carly Claw's paid for her Eras Tours tickets is genuinely, unless it's like some big romantic shirt, like, it's unfathomable to me. Like, I don't buy that because it's so absurd. But she did the only proof that we have of that was that she was in the stands, which is big proof for sure. Like, I can't, you guys, I actually only prove that she had a ticket to prove the fact that she swipes her ticket together. Like, but maybe like she didn't want to be in the tent. And, you know, she just took, I don't know. Who doesn't want to be in the tent? So absurd. Like, it's, I can't, yeah. Anyways, I'm happy to see that they've meant it fences. And I feel like taking her to a game is like a big deal, too. Like, there are various degrees. I feel like there's certain tiers of Taylor's friendship. You could be, you know, a hired assistant to sit next to her on a red carpet and hug her when she wins her awards. But going to Arrowhead, like, that's her home now. And there wasn't another, like, young friend in sight. Like, Donna was there. Right. Um, of course, Andrea Scott, but like only one BFF. She the new BFF. Taylor's been needing one. She has, even though like when you get married, this is something we were talking about last week, like, you don't need these, like kind of not unhealthy, but like sort of like crazy female friendships. No, you have your husband. And like, that's his job now. Yes, he was doing a lot last night. He's playing his game. He's not there for you. No, true. And also when she's like been traveling, going to New York, going out to dinner, he's like in seasons. She's been with recently. She just wasn't like been doing a lot. But like last night, they left the stadium in his, like, old school car. They auctioned that car at the different cars. Is that car was purple? And this one was like yellow. Um, and I just think the car's ugly. Like, I know it's like a vintage, I'm like, it looks ugly. But they usually leave the stadium in ways we don't know about. We don't see them. So people think something is coming. - Oh, I'm not doing this again. - No, of course. I'm just telling you what people say. - Something is going to say, "Droven a car." I'll, no, just 'cause she's being very public, you know? - My eyes and my ears are up when there is something and we sell the CMAs, but I'm not going down this road. - No, and I also think she's like very much on her Oscar, like how we're on our Golden Globes consideration. - She's on the Oscar. She went to that event in New York where she gave a panel. Like, she's kind of being kind of obvious in her pursuit of an Oscar, which like as another, you know, female artist, it's in pursuit of an award. Like, I totally respect that. - I heard she has billboards too. - Of course. Like, I would expect-- - To be considered. - To be considered. - I'm probably like, annoying for her that we took up so many. - And all the months on La Breia. - Yeah, right. She was probably dying to get to La Breia. - Sorry, Taylor. So I actually think announcing some music and like an album would be disruptive for that campaign. So I don't think we're getting new music quite yet. And we also did just get new music. - Right, we got Babylon, so I'm set for life. - Yeah, we got a Babylon and some other shit. But-- - But I got Babylon, which is one of my favorite Taylor Swift songs of all time. - And every time I listen to it, which is like multiple times a day, I find new meaning in the song. I'm still not like 100% set on what the song is about. - Who knows what's Babylon? Who's the dad? Who's like, not home for Christmas? - Okay, so here's what I'm sensing. - Babylon is about a guy who like can't be present in his relationship just because he's like obsessed with something from his past. But then it's like he dives into his past and he was like, unhappy then too, you know? So it's like in the bridge, it's like, you know. - And so you don't indulge as a weapon just to hurt yourself. - Yeah, but it's like, you didn't know that it was Babylon to his guns. Like you're living in the past. And you didn't even know at that time that that was like paradise. - Yeah, and then the chorus, she's hanging Christmas lights, sorry, bridge. She's hanging Christmas lights with your son, goes into the bathroom to call her mom. It's just not working. It's just not worth it if we're not what he wants. So it's like, there's a woman invested in a relationship with a guy who's just like obsessed with something from his past and he's like ruining his future, not future, his present because of the past. I think, but again, I have to listen to it like a thousand more times to understand it. And that's the beauty of Taylor Swift. - That's the beauty of Babylon. - It's Shakespearean. And how people are using Babylon is like, you know, people with little kids being like, this is Babylon, you know? - It's really sweet. - Yeah, but we know it. - But we know it. - But we know it. - We're just some of us don't. - Are you ready for our next story? - If I have to move on from Kayla, again. - Well, it's your other favorite subject which is so if you have anyone's memoirs. - Oh. - Oh, we have to move on. Let me tell you this. I saw this little breaking news story in Page Six before I read it in the book. Now you can share. - This is the news. So we won't be sharing spoilers. - This is what's out there. - Alex Cooper's quote freaking out over a book that implies a fling with Dave Portinoi by ex call her daddy, Ho Ho, Sophia Franklin. So sources tell Page Six that the podcasting mogul Alex Cooper has her proxies burning up the phone lines trying to get any details about Sophia Franklin's memoir. Daddy issues ahead of its publication on Tuesday. The only problem is Simon and Schuster has this one under Fort Knox level lock and key. Only a few people got advanced copies. Every page is watermarked with the recipient's name. - Mine wasn't, was yours? - No, we must got it like. - The second tier, yeah. - People must have got it. - The book does confirm that Alex and her camp are very invested in getting this book. She, I think she was able to add something to the book after it was announced, like a prologue. And she shared that like, there's a witch hunt for the book. So I understand now why it was so difficult to get. - In fact, the publishing house has kept this book more guarded than it did with Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan's regime change, which actually has national security secrets. - Oh, mine, that's a regime change. - This is my regime change, like. - Page six, here's that Sophia implies in the book that her one time BFF Alex had a fling with their former boss Dave Portinoi. It's not clear when. A source says that Alex is in full on panic mode. - She should be by the way. The book is really bad for Alex, for a million reasons. - Yes, in the, according to Page Six, our source with knowledge of the book says, there's a passage that details Cooper and Franklin visiting Portinoi's apartment. And that is actually like the big apartment roof thing that everybody knows about. It becomes obvious to Sophia in the moment that Alex has been there before, quote, and Sophia hasn't been there before. And there's a line like, did they sleep together? The source adds. - Yeah, so she doesn't necessarily imply it. She kind of has this like nagging feeling. And then it comes up one more time after that in the book, sort of not confirming her suspicions, but like another sort of, you know, gut thing of like, well, are they? And then she goes back. - Or have they. - Right, she goes back and thinks of like, how their relationship came to be with Barstool, and how much time like, like Alex was sort of like the liaison between Sophia and the network. Like Sophia was just really along for the ride and Alex was in charge. And so then she goes back coming through all of her memories of like, well, this was weird and that was weird. But at the time, like I thought this was my best friend, the book is heartbreaking, like for so many reasons. It's genuinely like, of course, to see like a young girl go through. Like what is one of the biggest cancellations, one of the biggest online, whatever's, is difficult to read. But too, it's like this heartbreaking dissolution of a friendship. And it's not like Sophia pretends like this was like a fake friendship. Like Sophia was very real. Like it was this kind of life raft for her in terms of like her life in New York and just like not having, you know, any real friends in New York and not having a real purpose either. And like Alex, like changes her life to see that like, you know, Alex doesn't turn out to be the person that Sophia thought I was, like it's devastating. - Yeah, I feel like over the last few years, like the narrative has sort of changed even with Dave's book. He's like, has said like the girls fought everybody who talks about it. It's like they would have never lasted. Like it was a combustible situation. But oh, I don't want to give too much away. - They were perfect for each other. - And that's not Sophia's POV at all. - No, no, no, and like obviously she hates Alex with every fiber for being. But she doesn't dismiss what they had and how like yes, Alex did provide value and so did Sophia. And I think like, Sophia really saw Alex's value and Alex didn't see Sophia's value. She was kind of threatened by it. - I think the thing is she did see it. - Yeah, but she never spoke it. - One time. Well, we'll recap it when it comes out tomorrow so that you guys can read it and form your own opinions and we don't want to spoil anything. - We'll talk about it throughout the week. - But yes, it's funny that this is making news. I don't think this is what Alex is freaking out over, honestly. - Well, the book is so bad for Alex. I can't even like say why in one sentence. - And if it wasn't for this headline, I don't, I wouldn't have even really like, remember deeply that this was something that Sophia implied. - Oh, I would. By the way, I sat down with Post-its and a highlighter. One, 'cause I knew we were gonna talk about it, but two, there are sentences in there that are just like dripping with tea and she just like moves on to an acceptance. Like, it's sort of the way the book is written. Like, everything that seems like a big deal, even in her life, even in her upbringing, like experiences, it's just like bloop and-- - And you know, I hate when people talk about their childhood, but like, let me tell you, it's so important that you wouldn't remember. - It's so germane. - It's short. It's so germane because like, yeah, that is called her daddy OG. Like, the life that Sophia lived. And so, it's not a burden. Like, I wasn't trying to get through the childhood. It's actually very important that you understand the crazy ass bitch who moved to New York from Utah, like how she became that person. It's important. The book is so bad for Alex for a thousand reasons. One, like, a lot of it's just embarrassing. Like, if anybody wrote a book about like, what you were up to in your 20s in New York, like, you're broke on the balls of your ass, like doing anything to get by and like, you know, trying to become Instagram famous. Like, there's a lot of embarrassing things that come along with that. So, like, that's embarrassing. But Sophia definitely looks back on the situation now as like, she was completely blinded, but there were so many signs that Alex, like, is this deeply, like, evil duplicitous person who was planning this all along? Like, it wasn't like, she saw an opportunity and took it almost like. - I always had the idea that like, they wanted more money, they couldn't agree. And at the end, Alex was like, oh, I could do this by myself. Like, fuck it, I'm out. And I'd rather have this show and everything that comes along with it by myself than like, this friendship that everybody's been saying is teetering on the edge. So, that, but to hear Sophia tell it-- - The lead up. - There's a lot of things that like, happened over their three years at Barswell. We're like, she just intentionally, like, kept her in the dark. - And sort of obscured reality from Sophia. Like, so Alex was the one who, like, was meeting with Dave and Erica and like, making the plans and then she would communicate back to Sophia, like, what was going on? And it was like, well, that's actually not what happened in the meeting. So, Sophia's perception of reality was skewed because the person who she believed was telling her the truth, like, was actually not. And I think also, like, trying to dim Sophia's star. And I think also, it's really interesting how she talks about that they, they're very invested in their own, like, haters and fans and, like, on Reddit. They, like, spend hours just, like, reading what people are saying about them. Which is not good. - No, but I think that that's very normal for, like, no days Instagram and podcast fame. You have no idea you're not supposed to read it. You think that that's feedback. You think, oh, I should know what people are saying about me, so I can change or get better. You don't realize for years that that's not feedback. Like, that's garbage, you're digesting garbage. - And I think it really informs a lot of Alex's decisions. Like, when Alex is popular and when Sophia is popular, when people are liking Alex and when people are liking Sophia, when you have two female, it happens that's all the time. I'm like, oh, Claudia's annoying. I'm like, you know, people are into you one day and not, and I think, like, yes, as a newbie, Alex really lets that inform a lot of the decisions that she makes, which is such a bad place to be. The book is also really bad for Alex. If this Dave Porton, I think, is true. What do you think it's true? - I think that, and this is in the book, and I'm sure Alex and Dave still have a relationship, and I think they've always had more of a relationship than Sophia. - Sophia. - Sophia, I don't think Sophia ever spoke to Dave one time without Alex in the room. - Yeah, it was the first time. - Alex, very obviously has spoken to Dave. Dave multiple times they have a relationship they have a relationship. So to the degree that relationship is I don't know Did she go can you go over to Dave's place to do anything other than maybe like drink and make out like Okay, but that's hooking up. Yeah, honestly if it's true It's so bad for Alex. What's funny is I remember at the time when like Alex and Dave were teaming up and then they were like Cancel Sophia cancel suit man. Everything like there was a lot of like they should date. Yeah. Well, I also want to say that I think the book is actually pretty good for Dave. I don't think Dave comes off bad I don't think comes off pretty fair and as a boss who's like He obviously didn't know what was going on at the time and how big it would be like in culture But he just wanted his show back. He needed to make money. There is this looming merger between them and Penn entertainment So he's just like trying to negotiate with whoever will talk to him and get hit in the best deal He doesn't really have any interactions with Sophia. I don't really feel like he comes off bad at all except in his campaign against and to me This is the part that I'm up to in the book now is the suit man stuff. Yeah, that's like the third part Like the most heartbreaking part of the book is like this guy who is very well-educated very successful comes from like very Modest loves this random girl Sophia and it's like the first time she's really being like truly cared for by a guy And he just like stepped in shit like they spent all of COVID living in her mom's basement in Utah like he was really like a good boyfriend and to see his whole life like they're driving their time trying to like get you know, sorry It's like that's where I feel like Dave comes off badly I agree terms if it's the thing is the negotiation thing is nothing about Dave in the book is different or surprising from the Dave that we all know online and even the suit man stuff Nothing that Dave does in the book is different than what we all saw happen live Yes, and also if you want to like boil it down to its origins what Dave thinks about suit man comes from Alex And what Alex thinks of suit man suit man is just sort of really inconvenient to Alex Yes, he's taking Sophia These places and Sophia's becoming she went to the Game of Thrones premiere like she's becoming sort of more elevated than Alex She is this really like a high net worth what do they call it like I'm when you have like a man who's like a high Hi value man. Hi value man who takes care of her like the things that Alex was doing for her like Like suit man sort of renders Alex obsolete and like Sophia doesn't have these crazy stories to share anymore Because she's in a normal thing is she still I don't want to spoil it But she still shared how she was able to make her relationship fodder for the show in a way And he didn't even care in a way that was like good for the show and and find for her relationship Like and good for the listeners and giving them like actionable advice So I thought she did a really good job of showing what she exactly she contributed to the show and I was glad that she really went into some of the like jokes and bits and who's they were And where those stories came from because I've heard over years. Oh, so unwell with Sophia's word and I'm like well Everybody says I'm unwell so like she's during the medley's words. It's right. Right. So it's like that's not it's like it girl Like it's just a word but actually Sophia shares the story in the book of like exactly when Unwell came into the show and it's Sophia's thing and her mug shot is like a huge part of their merch It's like they're best selling merch item. So yeah, I thought that like Sophia didn't really know Like I always felt like Like you know, I'll just say that we'll talk way more about it tomorrow once it's out Highly recommend getting your hands on a copy. It is the tell all of the year I highly juicy and just I Justice for Sophia like it's the book is devastating Like there are parts of like actually I wanted to cry And she doesn't even really process what's happening to her as it's happening which is maybe better agreed But she's just like in this fucking nightmare and I think at the time she didn't even realize how bad or how big it was because of his COVID and she was kind of removed from it in Utah It's it's devastating. Mm-hmm. Oh and the whole time I'm thinking because it's kind of like written like a thriller that Alex is like this person That she has like a whole other side to herself in like a secret life like and I'm like this would be an amazing movie It has someone it would be an amazing show because it's like it's like you know the moment in a movie where it's like gone girl Like a psychological thriller. Yeah, look at these days people do a many many series because they rather you watch eight hours than two hours sure I would like I would watch this but like in a psychological thriller type of way. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's really good you guys Are you ready for our next story the stars were out for the lackma our lamp film gala the lamp so the lackma is One of the events that we talk about every year. We don't really the Los Angeles County Museum of art in California Everybody takes pictures in front of those that like lamp art installation. That's like the red carpet It's like very upper echelon very like mini mechala west coast mechala everybody dresses like really high-end I don't know what happens inside, but it's like an art museum So like really you don't have to be an actor to go like it's like it runs again because the other event that's like this that we just covered. What's that? Yeah, when the Taylor was out yeah, and Kim that right which one is that that's the Los Angeles I don't know, but that one is like for Acting right it's the academy museum gala. It's the academy music that one's for yeah like uh for artists and patrons of the arts of the movies Yes, okay, so this one is like for everyone. So Kim was there Kylie was there Kylie looked insane kind of looked gorgeous like there as well Kylie always looks insane But it's like is she gonna look extra insane or just regular insane? It's nice for Kylie She's very selective she doesn't go out a lot feel like every it's like literally every day that we're seeing Kim and in that type And that's a lot of outfits to find and so your average rating is gonna go down just by sheer volume Kylie goes to maybe six events a year, which means she has a lot of time to find six of the most sickening looks book her glam book everything She looked insane. Yeah, she loved it really amazing hated what came more like cutouts on your tushy groundbreaking I'm so over like the hooker look it was awful and she has been doing like new different things with She has been enemies. I'm enjoying it. They're finding their like their group. I like I really liked that um People are wearing now what looks like a bathing suit and then like a skirt where but you're like hips are showing What's Taylor? We're kind of and she was wearing um That like polka dot galley alohab dress. Yes a couple weeks ago, and I thought she looked more of that These are so different so stylish but also like so still we got your body body body And but this was not law roach so like I can't blame him It's just like she kind of needs to be more holistic like law sort of needs to do everyone whoever is doing it like needs to do everything because it's like This is very in congress with the all spare peak we were experiencing. Mm-hmm. It's not good. She had a couple of really great all spare looks. She did um Alex Earl was in attendance looking very gorgeous. She was really like she looked amazing. Yeah She's like girl. Oh, I also wanted to talk about Sophia's press tour Yes, we haven't seen her on get right out with me or past the post but she was announced to be on the boss sticks Yes, this morning I saw and emigried and emigried And one more now. Let's talk. Is that what it's called? We need to talk. Yeah, which I loved um She's the clip that I saw she's like she doesn't give a fuck. He was like can we say her name? She was like Alex Cooper. Yeah, we can say her name Um, and then also in page six it said that she's going on the Adam Friedland show. I don't know the interview tape three weeks to go And they're told it's explosive Adam Friedland that sounds It just it feels like one of those clips like those podcasts you always see clips of or it's like it sounds like newsy Whatever like so I guess she's going hard in the paint on podcasts Yeah, and I guess it's you know, it is sort of tricky like who Will place off Alex Cooper. Yeah, and I think like a lot of people won't She's still like a very powerful woman in podcasting and You know there was a big thing with her in the beginning of the year that sort of like didn't really affect her Like net net with the Alex Earl stuff like obviously a lot of people took Alex Earl's But the thing is her show was still successful or her show still does numbers. She had her big Gen Florence wants to go on it. It hasn't really impacted her big pampers. She hasn't really oh right and and she's also the timing is Kind of as good as it could be for Alex obviously like going through any sort of like public scanner when your postpartum is awful But it does give you a like a like a A sense of what's important But it also does give you an excuse like no one's expecting her to respond. She's a three-week old She doesn't have to show up. She's not recording episodes live So it's not like she's ignoring something. It's like we could like be looking into her new episodes But no, it's all old. It's all we probably want to hear from her from her for months I don't think she will address anything that's said in the book Me neither. She's never really even addressed Sophia gate even in the years after her Breakout show she's done lots of press and they always you know remark on bar stool and like you know At the breaking up of her friendship. She talks about it very vaguely. Yeah, never goes into detail She's never really had her feet held to the fire on this at all because people just we're obsessed with what she did at the time Yeah, she's lauded as like this, you know Independent girl boss queen who doesn't let a man tell her what to do. Oh, that was the best part of the book I'm sorry. Let me just say one thing They're talking about how like they've become this like sort of like feminist show both polarizing in good and positive ways But at the end of the day like the entire show was written by a man Especially Alex's part mill fun. Yeah, Mujie Mujing moth hunters in the book a lot. Yeah, mill funder is a major key Yeah, and it's like this is a show that like literally shaped a generation of young women um In the spirit of empowerment and like freeing the nipple right The entire thing was written by man. Mm-hmm like the advice the episodes were scripted She would take these like three hour long phone calls with Mujie and stuff. I'm giving everything. Sorry. She's not proving that information But like the whole show was written by man Okay, and now go order the book name for yourself. Yes I'm sorry, I really don't mean to spoil it, but there's so much like that's not-- - There's so, yeah, and that's all known actually. 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I forget the context in which we were talking about it, because we were talking about how, like, Blake Brown also flopped. Didn't- not officially? Oh, did it not? I think it did. Not officially. Oh. This is official, because you were saying Betty Boos flop. I was like, I don't think it did. I hear about it and stuff. But now it's an official flop. The beverage company of Blake Lively, which includes non-alcoholic Betty Boos, and its sister brand, Betty Boos, is winding down on the cease operations a source confirms to people according to trademark applications. Her company is filed several trademarks since its launch, while they remain active. Multiple others have been abandoned. Yeah, unfortunately, celebrity brands are not like a guaranteed success, and so much of it depends on your Q-score. And I don't know if anybody has a lower Q-score in this year than Miss Blake Lively. So sorry. That sucks. Yeah. It's a hard business. Hard business. But her and Ryan have a lot of businesses. They do. Between the two of them, I think. They're fine. They're fine. Even just his and her movie career, they're fine. But they've made very wise investments. They're like Mint Mobile, right? And Aviation Gin. And I think probably others that we don't even know about, they've done fine for themselves. But they've also started their own brands, which I'm sure they didn't even put up their own money for. So they're fine. But I also think it speaks to Blake Lively's former popularity that this brand was ever even successful because she doesn't drink. Do you think that it was? Well, it started out as a totally sober brand as like mixers. Yeah. And I thought that that's a niche category. And the fact that it was successful, which it was, because it's only really closing now. I think that spoke to her popularity. Well, we forget because things are so different. But her and Ryan, personally, when they were so well-liked, I literally was the only person who didn't like them. I thought they were so annoying. Like his whole Instagram stick of hating his wife, I hate that shit. People were fucking obsessed with them, him specifically. It's actually insane how popular they were. I mean, I guess, like, ability is a prison. There's only one place to go. But who would have thought they would have become so hated? Yeah, it's actually chilling. And Betty, too, now, hated. Betty, another fallen soldier in the It Ends with Usaga. Yeah. That fucking book, that movie. Are they doing the sequel? They can't possibly. You're like, I heard something that, like, someone talking about the sequel is if it was a possibility. With whom? They would have to start completely fresh. And they wouldn't be using him, right? Because I didn't read the sequel, actually, or it's a prequel. Oh, no, it's not. It's a sequel. OK. It starts with us. But it sounds like a prequel. He is in it. Not as a major, major character. It's all about Alice, right? Is that her name? Atlis. Yeah, atlis. It's about Lillian Atlas. And he is involved just because they have a kid together. He's like in the book three times. I think maybe he doesn't even have a scene with, like, lively. Like, it could actually be done, but he is the director. Because he owns it. And I say they were trying to steal it. Yeah, right. The great theft of 2025. It's called Alex Cooper. Yeah. He wants to steal something. Clean steal. I'm sure. And like, please, I become like a hero. It's true. Are you ready for the vinyl story? I am. The bachelor will be coming back in 2027 after nearly two years off the air. Oh my god. I missed this completely. No, that's it. Like on Friday, ABC revealed that the bachelor will return for season 30 in 2027. I'm sorry. Wait. Has it not been on? No, because of Taylor. Frankie. Oh, right. Sorry. Okay. All right. Okay. So actually, it's just. It never ended. Right. No, but like, they just, they're sort of stuck. After the last season concluded, Grant Ellis's in March 2025, the new season of the bachelor will premiere on March 21st, are they picking someone from Grant? They did not say I think it's a man because it's the bachelor and the back very sadly. The bachelor, I think has starkly has performed better ratings wise for a bunch of crazy ways. And it's the original. So like, if we are resetting like like let's reset with the original. - Yeah. - I don't know why. Now I'm remembering hearing like that they were casting, they're looking for their next batcher. I don't think they're picking someone from the franchise and they're looking for someone who was like similar to the original bachelors. Like someone that you would actually want to date. - Want to fight for. - Someone who is like successful and handsome and like loves his family and he only hangs out with his friends and his mom. - That like really you would compete with other women. - Four. - Yeah, the idea that like women would be like killing each other for like some influencer is just not believable. Like someone who literally doesn't have a job. It's not. And then Chris Harrison is launching his own. I like, who was hosting the season of Taylor Frankie? - Jesse Palmer. - Oh right, they have a good host over there and he's good. But Chris Harrison has been doing a lot of press because his like, - Do you compete in a show? - A combination of the vows is airing somewhat soon and of course like only thing people want to talk to him about is like his drama. He like is, you know, the story he's selling is that he's like, you know, very healed. Everything happens for a reason. He's so happy. It wouldn't have happened if they'd inspire him. - I don't think that's true. - Sure, Jen. - Like he really should still be doing it. - Yeah, even though Jesse Palmer is actually a perfect replacement. - Yeah, he's doing fine. - Was he a bachelor himself? - Yes. - Yeah, right, the first one or like one? - Not the first, but one of. But yeah, like a Jesse Palmer I think is what they're looking for for this new bachelor. Like someone desirable. - Yeah, they're gonna have to like go into a corporate office. Like, to me, like what's considered desirable is like somebody with a steady job. - Yeah, but if you have a steady job, you can't just go film the bachelor. - Yeah. - Maybe you could like own your own company. - Love that. - An entrepreneur. - That also gives like, an entrepreneur. - It does, but like an entrepreneur is a blanket term, right? And it could mean something. - You mean a lot of Abilist? - Yeah. - The bachelor. - Oh yeah, sure, like good luck to you. - It is, I'm of the mind that the franchise like was over. The Taylor Frankie Paul thing, like really had promise. Unfortunately, it backfired in such a profound, huge way. In ways I don't think any of us ever could have expected. So like sure, good luck. Like keep trying, they keep trying over there. - No, and I like the idea of the batch. I think we always need a bachelor in this world. Whether I watch or not. - I gotta throw that Dean a cat. - The show must go on. It provides so many other, you know, it's a funnel for so many things, the dancing, the stars. - Builda. - He might be. - I know he created the show, but as he's still like, they tried to house Tim, but I don't know if it was successful. - They're gonna have to steal that franchise from his cold dead hands, and I do think he's sort of the reason why it. - They should call him. - L-O-L. But when we were always talking about dancing with the stars, how like it's so amazingly cast, we're talking about Dean a cat. It's like she should do the bachelor. - Yeah. - She obviously like has a, but like the world needs the bachelor. - Our local system. Like for traders dancing with the stars, bachelor and paradise, like whether or not we're watching the bachelor, we need it. - We need it. - It's like a crazy generation. - And it's a crazy. - It's honestly been a constant in our lives. I don't wanna live in a world without the bachelor. - Even though I personally have not supported the franchise in almost a decade. - But it's just in the shadows. It's just knowing somewhere. Joey Grazia Day is saying that going to Greece has like an old-school vibe. That matters. - I think it was Rome, actually. - No, it's crazy. - Oh, okay. Agreed. - And Greece does have an old-school vibe, okay? - One thing he speaks is facts about Joey Grazia Day. - Joey Grazia Day. I hope he won traders with the in-starling in the trade. - I hope Craig won traders. - He didn't. - He didn't. He did not. I can't wait for traders. - I know. They're all home. - Yeah. - Doing their thing. - Winnie Lavet. - Winnie Lavet might have won traders. But I do think like, she's too obvious. I think. - But she's so popular like. - No, and I think if these people are like tuned into pop culture, which they all are, like, she's a threat. Then they like to eliminate a smart threat. - They wouldn't eliminate her because she's smart. I think that she would have more success as a faithful than a trader, because she's not like a liar. She gets really far because-- - No, but the stupid faithfuls would eliminate her, 'cause she'd be working too hard. - I can't have a group of faithfuls as dumb as the ones from last season. Like, it's not good for my mental health. - So honestly, like Grazia Day might have won. 'Cause she's almost assuming like a rob. Even though they always study the prior seasons. - And they'll eliminate Grazia Day one. - Yeah, they're like, "Oh, now we're going with the dummies." - And Craig, they're like, "Hey, on some guys, "we're gonna pull the wool." - Yeah, anyone who's like very affable, anybody who's like, "Well, like, really like straight guys, "who like everybody's like, you know, broy with." Yeah, they always like, so obviously studying the blueprint of what happened the season prior. So yeah, how's Vives gone? - Yeah, justice for anyone who is like, even remotely like Rob Roush. Grazia Day is the route. - Craig too. - And Craig. - And you know, he's kind of mysterious. Nobody knows anything about him. - He's terrible. - Because we know his voice. And that's it, we don't even know what he looks like. - Yeah. - He's gonna win. - I hope so. - Yeah. - Stardaling for the win. - Well, that's our show. It's been an absolute pleasure spending the morning with you. I hope you enjoyed. And I know I did. 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