Connor Storrie

I'm curious, could you shut up Evan, one thing I was thinking about, so there are some rumors out there. It's okay if I just ask shut up Evan, okay but can I just shut up Evan? I didn't even say anything. Shut up Evan. And can I gently request that one of them be my boy Rosinaugh? Shut up Evan. Oh my God. I'm blushing now after that. Am I turning red? I've been red the whole time. Connor's story. Thank you so much for being here. I feel a lot of anticipation over the center of you because we've been thrust into each other's lives. I mean more means years and I apologize for it. No, you've been in my life screen. Yeah. And so I thank you for making the time to be here today. Yeah, no, I'm super happy to be here. We're at the, it was an L party for the actor awards, formerly the Screen Actors Guild Awards. This was a party in the lead up to the awards. Very confusing branding, but you were there last night. It was your first public event with Hudson, Francois was also there. What was it like being out and about in a sea of fellow actors? Yeah, it was crazy. The amount of people that came up to me and were like, I love your show by the way. And it was like, I love you as a person. It was crazy. I mean with the internet being such a big part of thrusting this and having it being seen, it's still surreal and I still don't fully understand that people outside of, you know, my algorithm have watched it, you know. It was great. It was really great. I had no idea what to expect. That was my first time at Chateau Marmont. Everyone was so lovely. Everyone was so beautiful. A lot of people, Ollie would baby. Ollie would baby. Did you know the mythical legend of Chateau Marmont? Because even when I'm there sometimes, I'm always just struck by like, oh, this person died over here or this person. Oh, see, I didn't know all that. Oh yeah, let's tell you off my afterwards. I just feel like anything that has Chateau in it is automatically haunted and there's some lore there. So that doesn't surprise me. Yeah, beautiful mythical place. I have a feeling you're going to be there a lot in the future. Now, this is your first time doing a long form interview. And as I was preparing for it today, I was like, hmm, where to begin. And so then I wondered, well, if you were me interviewing you, how would you want to start the interview? Like this. I feel like we're already conversational. So yeah, the worst question ever is, tell me about yourself, you know? Yeah. Because then you're like, I was born in Colorado, raised in Texas. Yes. Or sometimes I'll be on the phone with like a friend or a family member and they'll be like, what's new with you? Yeah. And I'm always like, well, I know. I've kind of been on a kick recently being like, how do you, how to make conversations, especially like with all of the press of this and meeting new people. I mean, asking someone where they're from. I actually saw this video on Instagram and it's, she pops up all the time, I forget her name, but she does. Like how to be a better speaker or something or how to, how to communicate more effectively. And she's like, yeah, the two questions you never want to ask anyone is, what do you do and where are you from? And because it's like, that's where everyone instantly turns off. But they're like icebreakers in a sense. Yeah. So there's someone unavoidable. Yeah. Just does make the person though, like kind of be like, like the moment I'm like, I'm from Texas. You're like, oh, what part Odessa? And they're like, oh, I've never heard of that. Right. And you're like, all right. Do you know my friend who lives in Austin? Yeah. And then I'm like, yeah, actually, I do. I know your friend. Yeah. He's my friend. He's my friend. We're all friends. Okay. So I'm going to be on my phone more than I'd like to be for this podcast and I'll tell you why. Because I prepared my questions yesterday. But everything about you in this show seems to be happening in real time. I'm sure you're on the receiving end of this. Yeah. So you can understand that already my questions feel a little out of sequence. This morning we got the announcement of season two. But when this airs episode five will be out. So there's the online reaction yesterday when I'm preparing my questions to episode four. Then hours before we arrived here today, there's the news of season two. And then obviously the pandemonium from this fandom. But then also we're going to be talking about episode five. This sounds like the Sag Awards thing all over formally known as a whiteboard this morning. I'm just trying to piece it all together. But I did want to start with a quote of yours that you gave in a recent interview. Oh, come on. Here we go. I really liked this quote. Oh, here we go. I appreciate confidence. And I just found this quote really affecting. So you did an interview with the Hollywood Reporter. You were asked how you are dealing with all of this, which is no knock at the Hollywood Reporter whatsoever. But that's a little bit of like a how are you question in the sense of like. It's overwhelming. Right. Totally. You responded by saying I don't know how to say this without sounding like an asshole. But I think as an actor, I've always wanted to work at a really high scale. I think every actor does if you want to be an actor on some level. I think there's something about wanting what you do to be seen and be exposed and reach people. I've wanted to be an actor since my mom always said that since I could speak. I've always been like, that's me on the TV. I've always seen that for myself. For it to finally manifest and to be reaching people in that way, this is what I wanted. So I can't really be too shocked when it happens. Yeah. Wait, why are you cringing at that? No, I'm not cringing. I've just like. Yeah, I'm just like remembering that because I mean so many of these interviews have happened like on top of each other. Yeah. You know, so I'm like, I'm like, what did I say when? Yeah, that I stand by that that. Yeah, that's. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's true. I've always I've always wanted to be an actor and I think that verbiage of wanting to be an actor is. It really is is really exemplary of what the job kind of is. Yeah. Because being an actor for me looked like, you know, wanting it my entire life, waiting until I was old enough to drive myself to these crazy auditions and go to these cattle call commercial things and go to student films and this that or whatever and work in restaurants for like eight years. So yeah, I mean, but you do that in hopes that that the vision you have for yourself works out. And you know, it's just freaking crazy that right now it's working out. I fully believe in the idea of energy and manifesting. And so if I am thinking about where I want to be for the last 25 years, you know, once you finally kind of start getting there, it's like, yeah, this is. I mean, I worked I worked really freaking hard for that. What I liked about the quote is I think a lot of times when people think about success, especially in the field of acting. It's like finding projects that are really meaningful, whether before the actor or for audiences. But part of what's, you know, in the the alchemy of success is exposure, right? And so when you have a show like this that's getting so much traction, so many people are watching it, so many people are talking about it, it allows this meaningful work that you're doing to be seen on a grand stage. And ultimately, I would imagine if you're an actor, you want as many people to see your work as possible. You want to touch people in order to touch people, you have to be exposed to people. Right. And that in acting film and television specifically and also theater, but that creative process literally exists to be witnessed. Like, yeah, you can act alone in your room in preparation for something, but really acting is we do it to film, to be watched, to be experienced by something else. You know, like other other art forms like painting, you can, you can love to paint because you love the act of painting. And that painting doesn't necessarily have to be seen by anyone to be a painting, you know. But something like a TV show or a movie, I mean, you are literally putting on a show for, with the intention of it being watched. So when it gets watched, it's like, it's, it's, you're doing the thing, you know. How do you compartmentalize this idea of like, so there's the show itself and there's the making of the show. Then the show comes out, right? And there's this pre-existing fan base for the show that are fans of the book and that have this deep love and connection to this book. Then the show premieres and there are people like me. I consider myself, I'm new here. You know what I mean? Because we started recapping the episodes on my other podcast, Drop Your Buffs. And we quickly learned from the fan feedback that there's little things that like, we weren't picking up on because we're not, I'm in the process of reading the book. I'm late, you know, not proud. But so you have these, these long time fans of the book and their expectations around the series. Then you have these new fans that are seeing the show. And so what has it been like for you holding on to the memory and everything that you know to be true about this process while also consuming everyone's interpretations of this thing that you made? Everyone who, who loved the book has been nothing but supportive, which I think is like the first pillar of success for this entire project. It's been interesting because I feel like the book people, they're watching it contextually, right? It's just funny. They point out things that are important in the books. And then you have a whole set of people that are pointing out things that have nothing to do with the books, you know. It's been interesting because I think the audience that hasn't read the book is really into the spiciness of it all, is really into the sex and the tension and everything. Whereas the people who have read the books, they know where it goes. So they see all of that as this like really emotional journey of like how we get there. It's been really interesting to see these sort of two worlds of like some people love the characters and their dynamic and what that means. And then some people are just really into the entertainment of it all. I think it's good to let those two things exist, you know. Because I think sometimes it's easy to comment on something like this and make it just about entertainment or just about art and, you know, thematically what it means and what it represents. But those two things get to exist simultaneously. And that's why something like this I think is doing well and has so much reach. Yeah, I've also been really heartened by how much the long time fans of the book have embraced the newbies like myself. There's a level of, I know I felt this before with things I love. I can be a little gatekeeper, you know, when it comes to inviting people into a fandom that I feel like I, you know, shepherded or was like, you know, on the ground. And they've been so lovely and that's made, I think fans, the newer fans like us feel like, okay, like we're all coming together, we're maximizing the power of our joints. But it's also been really interesting to me too because this fandom is like they, they know about things that I don't know about but then tick my interest. So for instance, I saw episode six was called cottage. I knew cottage meant something in the world of heated rivalry. And yet when we first get this mention in episode five of the cottage, I felt like a tick go off for me as a fan of this thing that I didn't even really know about but I knew this meant something. I had a similar reaction episode for with a tuna sandwich at the moment. When I, the refrigerator opened and you're going to make it, I'm like, I know this is lore. I don't know the lore but I know it's lore. I know I was, I was thinking about that because I'll see people make the videos or something where they're commenting on like, and then he brought out the tuna melt. And then I'm like, yeah, that's an iconic part of the book. Like that has or like stupid Canadian Wolfberg. Like that means nothing. I'm going to get things right now because I said tuna sandwich in the fans. It's like, it's tuna melt. They're with it. They're with it. No, they're like, yeah, they're like, they're like, oh, he's trying. He's trying. He's making it. He's making it worse. But yeah, I was thinking about that because also I see video sometimes of people being like, oh, y'all thought Ilya was mean. And then after episode four, you see that he actually really cares. And I'm like, it's so interesting because from the book, it's like that opinion is polar opposite because they have so much more context. But it's cool that it works both ways, you know, because there's a world in which that totally didn't work. You know, where like you have to have the book in order to get the full experience, but that hasn't been the case. Right. But then now with episode five, because I'm going to have to jog your memory a little bit because I just saw it. Yeah. And I know it kind of, I imagine all sort of seems like one giant blob and sort of figure out what slots were. But we have this amazing, amazing scene with your character, Ilya, on the phone with Shane. And Ilya wants to express himself in how he's feeling. And so Shane says, you know, just speak in your native language Russian. And so we have this. What I thought was just going to be a few lines. But as in fact, like this complete emotional, not word vomit. It's just like this. He's just speaking a truth to, to shame with the understanding that he couldn't possibly understand. And he doesn't. And yet his expression is such where he's hearing him and understanding that that Ilya is opening up to him. And so he's receiving it, even though he doesn't know the specificities of what's being said. Can you talk about crafting that scene? Because that was, well, that was another crazy kind of manifestation moment in a weird way. I remember I used to have like visions of doing a monologue in the snow to that song that Jacob ended up choosing for that moment. And so I saw that during an ADR session. I saw like half of that. So that was when I saw the final product, I was like, well, that's crazy. I actually haven't seen episode five in the context of this episode yet. So it's very good. There we go. Love it. Love it. I mean, I spent weeks working on the Russian dialogue with my dialect coach for that. Yeah, that was, that's one of the coolest parts to me. I mean, that is such a dream for me. I love languages. I love accents. I literally, when I was little, I used to take monologues and I would like put them into like, like Mandarin Chinese and try to memorize them were like Russian or French given they were like very grammatically incorrect. So I got that was that kind of got to just do that in real life. And that monologue, I mean, it's so funny because I feel like a lot of people talk about the chemistry between Hudson and I or the characters or the romance. And I feel like I am really not to knock any of that, but I am really locked into Ilya's journey. And I mean, he's got so much personally going on. Suicidal mother, found mom's body, family tries to keep it hush hush has to lie his entire life about what actually went down. Father develops dementia subsequently dies. Brother is like a coca addict, like, you know, corrupt person comes from post-Soviet Russia. Like there's so much that goes on in that character. And we get to really see that and I think that informs so much of his behavior towards Shane. Yeah, I just think it's I think the character is a lot deeper than then you might think at face value, you know, like this like macho kind of cocky Russian guy. It's like no, like there's some shit going on. Yeah, and that that wraps it all up, you know, and then at the end of that him admitting that he's in love with this man is. Well, I'll get to that in a second, but first on that monologue, though, because I was really struck by the line. It was always you. There was something about that line that was very penetrating. Was there a line in the monologue that really stuck with you or that you felt a stronger connection to. Yeah, I it's funny because doing it in Russian. There's something about like speak and this is why I love languages. There's something about when you say something in a different language. It has like more weight to it or something. You know, it's like it's like there's certain expressions that you say and trying to think of something like like in French like say that means like that's life, but it has like a different sort of connotation and vibe to it rather than us just saying like that's life because it can kind of be like, well, that's that's how the cookie crumbles or, you know, I remember in the monologue. And it's like they suck my power from me like vampires. And I just think that's kind of the essence of the whole thing, which is like him coming from that part of the world and feeling so so undervalued or under seen and just used like the world just using him up and having to give everything he has to to the world outside of him. And I feel like that that's the that's the best part of the monologue for me. Yeah, I have to say just by you bringing Hollander, she's not Hollander, rosinov, bringing rosinov into the room right now. They're going to cancel you. I know I fucked up with the two sandwich in a moment. It's like, I'm over by now. I'm sorry, book fans. No, they know they love you and you get the stamp of approval automatically. Thank you so much. Well, your co-sign I think is meaningful in that. But even you just bringing him. I felt his presence here all of a sudden. And I think you are just I have to tell you I I love the show for a lot of reasons, you know, and a lot of the reasons why everyone else is connecting with it. But I think what really had me hook line and sinker. I think these performances from you and Hudson are like astounding. I texted my my co-host for drop your buffs that we do the recaps on and I said I'm like, fuck, I just was like episode five. I'm like, I'm immediately I just was like these performances are really something and I know people are connecting with so many aspects of this show but I I hope that people really are able to look at, you know, what the two of you are doing in the work you're doing and obviously I know we can talk about the chemistry between you and it is certainly there. But I think and really present in this episode especially the humanity that you're bringing to this character. And as you said, we meet him and it's easy to as a viewer have these assumptions of who he is because that is a part of him. He is this arrogant cocky guy. Right. It's it's sure it's a mask. The masks that we put on to move through this world. They become part of who we are. Totally. And yet I felt like we were able just to like go to places in this episode. That we're just astounding. Yeah, it's funny. This whole process has been so interesting because all the press that we've talked with, I mean the go-tos or you know our chemistry or the the spice this that or whatever but we really I agree with you. I think five and six. It's it's cool. Jacob did this really interesting thing. I think with the edit the speed because there's so much time jumping up the top. I always mess up that off the top on the from the jump. Yeah, yeah. Where it's like it's so fast and like cutty and just like glinty and just like boom boom boom. And then every single episode it kind of slows down and we get like deeper and deeper deeper. And longer scenes it seems like as well. Yep, which is reminiscent of their connection and their journeys individually and together. So when people started being really complimentary episodes one and two for Hudson and I episode threes more Coleslaw and Robbie. Yeah, I I just keep being like wait until five and six. Yeah, at least for me I'm kind of a you know a gooey romantic when it comes to all of that stuff. But that's where the real acting and the real person on person moments and the real you know great of it comes out. Well, let's talk about those final moments of episode five because I saw a tweet. I think like I've even seen like journalists maybe myself included going a little bit like more using a little bit more hyperbolic language than we typically do because I find myself. It's like yes, I quote unquote journalist and I have that integrity is sort of like holding the line and everything but I'm also a fan. And so I saw a writer online that had seen episode five and I think couldn't help but express the fact that like just wait until those final moments of episode five. So I'm like all right, all right. Like I say the same thing about you know God knows what we'll see let let me be the judge about God knows what. Then I, I, the, we're on the ice with Scott the music kicks in and I'm like okay, something's about to happen. Oh my God, oh my God. I'm up out of my seat at that point. But then we get that moment at the end where both you, Ilya and Shane up off the couch. I'm like what the fuck are they going to go and do now on the phone and then we have Ilya call him up and deliver. It felt like an atom bomb to me hearing him say that. And again, I don't know the books and I'm sure if you're a book viewer like how are you even holding yourself together. But what was that moment like for you? As you were saying that I was kind of walking through that visually in my mind. And once took out to me one, I think that's brilliant. I think it's so cool. I think it also gives so much. It lets people instantly know why Scott and Kip are all of episode three. Like you need all of that context for that to hit and land. And I just think that's really cool from almost a production side to have like these two parallel storylines when they converge. I think it's really cool. Especially because the fans didn't know that that was going to be the cake. It heightens everything. The book fans are like, oh my god, we get to see both so that this happens. So it's a win-win for them. And then anyone who's watching the show has a moment of like, what the hell are these guys? Where are we going with this? And then it means so much more. But I remember the filming that day because I have, I have like three friends there and Svitlana's there. And the actors that they had to play my friends that kind of just chill there during that scene and watch the watch the game with us. They were actually Russian. A lot of the background that I was involved with were actually Russian. So it's so bizarre and embarrassing to show up and like speak half Russian with this crazy accent. And then like they try to talk to me. And then I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, you pull over to your butt who's like, I'm not Russian, you know. And I remember them being there. And I have to like have this reaction. And they're just like out of it the whole time. Just like eating popcorn. Yeah, exactly because we filmed that the same day we filmed that we filmed this sort of compilation of my reactions over the years as I'm watching Shane win games. He watches me win blah, blah, blah. And there's like this moment where I have to like kind of throw popcorn up and be like very like coronally be like, oh, it should have been me like pretending to be upset about it. And it's like, I think in the script, it's like, they all laugh and like enjoy it together. And I just remember doing this like big show and like turning to my friends and they're all just like. And I'm like, all righty then like really really alone here. Yeah, I don't know why that I don't know why that stuck out to me when you brought up this really beautiful moment. And it's an open floor. I'm coming to the cottage is interesting to me because I saw Hamnet recently. And in Hamnet, you have this line where Will Shakespeare says to be or not to be right is giving you the moment that we came for. And I felt similarly in hearing you lia deliver this line I'm coming to the cottage because again, I'm going to keep saying it new here, but I knew in that moment that that was a significant line for fans to hear and I'm wondering how you approach that as an actor when you know that there's a group of people that have an expectation about this moment having a weight. To be completely honest, I and I don't mean this in a bad way. My expectations were that from having seen adaptations be kind of torn apart online previously. I'm a firm believer. I'm very optimistic, but I'm also a firm believer in like be what is it called like optimistic nihilism except except the worst but expect the best. You know, if I can accept the worst case scenario and be like, no, I'm still going to sign up to do this, then it's a go ahead. So I went through this entire process, even if it sounds pessimistic, accepting the worst case, which is that they're going to hate my performance. I'm so wrong for the part. It's going to be torn apart by people who love the book and be like, well, if that were the case, all I have is all I can do is really try to give an honest performance and trust that, you know, Jacob knows the story well enough to bring the right moments to it. For moments like that, yeah, I think I had some ideas about trying to really play to the book off the top, but Jacob just knows that book. He knows that story like the back of his hand. And I read the book like twice, read all the scripts a million times. So it's just about really feeding into the reality and hoping that you're plugged into the right thing. And then hopefully that resonates, you know, I don't think you can get too much into trying to please the fans or something or trying, honestly, I think with acting or art in general, like trying to feed too much into what you think other people want is kind of the death of anything that's actually, you know, humane and inspiring. I would say beyond art, I would say just in general trying to be what other people want from you is never going to get anything of meaning because we can, humans are energetic beings and we can, we can feel that stuff, you know, I feel your energy. Yes, yes, yes. Now I have a couple people that also wanted to be here today, but couldn't, but that I wanted to bring into the conversation. One of whom you know personally, this is me again, I said I was going to be on my phone a little bit. So first I have, I was going to say our friend, I won't be so presumptuous. Your friend and your co-star Hudson Williams. Oh, God. What? Hello, Evan and Connor. This is my question. How has your time in Augusta Connor informed you as an artist? How does that play into your life as an artist now? Oh, you know what it really did set me up for is moving to California and seeing people who have a lot of, have a lot of wealth and resources. Wow, this taking kind of a dark turn. It showed me how people who have everything are actually way more sad than people who have absolutely nothing. I think that's Hollywood in a nutshell. Yeah, and, but it's like, because I, I went to the second half of high school in the suburbs, like an hour and a half outside of L.A. And in a pretty opulent area of like kind of next door to where we were living. And yeah, I just remember like the problems that kids would have. I remember being like, oh, I'm from Texas where, you know, people have nothing and like the drug that the bad kids are doing is like meth. This very intense, this very intense, gritty human experience. And then you come out here where I go to parties and these kids have like, you know, these like $10 million houses where they have like 10 bedrooms and they have everything. And these kids have like quervets and G wagons in high school. And they're so sad. And everyone does like Xanax and drinks at these parties. You know, and it's just like, it's like, whoa, on paper, this should be, this shouldn't be happening. And I just think that's a really interesting social thing. I write in my, in my, that's also something I do instead of acting, writing and directing. And I see that a lot in my creativity is this dichotomy of like people having everything, but feeling nothing. And then people having nothing and just being so full of life and joy. So what came first for you, the desire to write, act or director, was it kind of all in tandem? You know what's funny is I realized recently that I, I think ever since I was anybody, I always wanted to make my own stuff. But I think somewhere along the way I convinced myself that I couldn't make my own stuff until I had a certain amount of money or I had a certain amount of recognition. And I realized only within the past like year and a half, two years that, that, oh, that's not the case. Like you don't, you, you can't wait for something to happen to do something because if you're like throwing these seeds into the future, that's like a cycle. And then you'll actually never get there. This will happen when, but you never get to when if you're like right here right now, you know. So it's like, oh, that's the paradox. You just have to do it now, regardless. Obviously, it's so exciting to be a part of a hit show for all the obvious reasons. But in hearing from you now, it's like the possibility of what this can bring about and the exposure to other interests of yours. And kind of this being like a vehicle to help get you to these other opportunities feels kind of remarkable. Yeah, it's, yeah, it'll literally make me cry if we talk about it too much. No, I mean, it's like truly it's, yeah, I'm really getting emotional right now. Yeah, I just feel really, really honored and blessed. And yeah, it's what I've always wanted and, you know, it's starting to happen. And it just feels really important to me. And again, I just feel really honored that people are really nice to me on that level. It's good to be nice. Yeah, it's important to you. Yes, yes. Okay, so I want to bring another guest on to you. This is a fan of yours and a fellow HBO star. Oh, God, here we go. Hey, Connor, Hannah, I'm binder here, major fan of yours, loving heated rivalry, big time. I wanted to ask if you can talk about some queer performances, queer films, queer television shows, you don't have to say mine. That have been inspiring to you. And as a person, but also relative to heated rivalry in your work in the show, which is superb. Really a mausletobbing, congratulations. Well, it's crazy. And if I just instantly cried and then you just overwhelmed me even more. Yeah, so queer, queer shows, movies that have been inspiring. It's, you know what's funny is I see a lot of, I see a lot of people say online that this is that heated rivalry is what they wanted challengers to be as well. Yeah, I think Luke has done a lot of really cool stuff in the past few years, things that I would really be interested to be a part of. Especially what was the one that he just did with Daniel Craig? Yeah, queer. Yeah, queer. I love that. I'll be right at my next question, though. Oh, see we're psychically connected, it's happening. Just because I think he does something that's really cool, I think with a lot of queer stories, I think it can be kind of, it's really easy to kind of get into the capitalism of all of it. And I think that's something that, why I think this show is so well-liked is I think it's not grabbing at anything to try and get anyone's attention. It actually deals with people who are going through something that people can relate to rather than being like, I don't know, a cash grab or something. And I think he does a really good job at making queer stories that feel really human because they're kind of, they have a lot of sadness to them. And Daniel Craig's part in that movie is about, like that movie became something totally different when I realized halfway through that this is about the loneliest person in the world. And it's like, if that's not an experience that a lot of people can relate to, then I don't know what is. Yeah, so Luca does a lot of cool, he just has so many different angles that queerness can be seen through. That's really inspiring. Have you seen Queer's Folk? No, but I remember auditioning for, they revamped that. They did, they did a reboot of it. But I mentioned Queer's Folk because when I was watching this show, I feel like, and I think some people watching and listening will relate to this, I felt like that this show he did rivalry is going to be what for people of my generation older, what Queer's Folk was, which was, I remembered in the pilot episode of Queer's Folk, both the UK version and the American version. There is a very explicit sex scene, not dissimilar, the ones we see on heated rivalry. And it's a really lengthy sex scene, not dissimilar, the ones we see on heated rivalry. And I remember like the paradigm shift that that was for me as a young person, seeing two gay people enjoying gay sex and not just sort of like a cutaway and not just a quick like the, we really saw the mechanics. That's another great thing for me about heated rivalry is really getting to the minutia of like, how gay sex works, right? And like, you know, I love this moment. It's episode one, right where it's like, first Shane goes down on Hollander and I was like, wow, great sex scene. Okay. But then it's like, no, no, no, we're not done here. Because, I just say, did I just say Shane and Hollander? Yeah, I thought you meant, yeah, sorry, yeah, Shane and Julia. Shane goes down on Rose Enough. Yeah. Shane, it's like the first names in the last names. Oh my god, the fans are gonna be okay. I think they get it. Okay. So we've got Rose Enough going off. Excuse me. We've got Hollander. Rose Enough going off. Rose Enough getting off. No, Hollander going down on Rose Enough. And then I'm like, okay, great scene. Love that. But then you have Rose Enough being like, no, no, no, let me finish the job and finish the job. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have a question. I just wanted to bring it up. Jacob did a really good job of, if you look at a lot of those scenes and how we shot him to, it was a lot of wides, which is not easy when it comes to nudity because you're kind of like, it makes our choreography really like, make your leg go up like this. Have your elbow like that. But yeah, we breathed in those moments for a really long time, which is reminiscent of sex. I mean, when you're when you're with someone, you know, it's, it's not just like, bam, damn, thank you, ma'am. And then it's like over and out. Right. At least I hope it's not that way for most people. But yeah, so you it's the kind of the start and the stop and the reset and the talk and the this and that. Yes, it's cool. Yeah, it's cool to see that. Yes. And I like the fact that we get to see so many variants of sex scenes on the show between them because I think it also informs like who they are in their kind of intimacy. And we see how their relationship develops through their intimacy. On that note, I have a question. So there was a still that was released of episode four of the two of you in the shower that we did not see in the episode. And in my mind, I'm like, okay, that probably maybe that's episode five, but we didn't get it. Is that a deleted scene? No, it's not a deleted scene. That was a pickup from during a montage, I think, in episode two. There's a montage and you see, imagine if I fucked up the names too, I was like, Rosanna sucking Ilya off. You see my character giving Hudson's character head in the shower that was like a pickup of that. And then I guess they just used used to still from that, but it wasn't a deleted scene. It was more like photo op because that shower was sexy. So we had to use the hell out of the shower. Yeah. And then in an entertainment weekly article, you said that you'd seen someone online say that you are America's ass. Yeah. For me, growing up Brian Philippi in cruel intentions, defined America's ass. And I feel like you are taking that. And we see his butt in cruel intentions. You sure do win. And then he changed my life. It's when him and Reese with their spoon are in the pool together. He gets he walks on out and there is a shot of his butt. And I know we people say like this is the thing that made me gay. We know we use that terminology a lot. That is the thing that absolutely made me gay. And I was actually not to make this about me, but I was at a party with him last night. And we met for the first time in person. And I was like, listen, I'm not not to be that person. Yeah. But I'm like, you are responsible for my sexuality. So thank you. But anyway, he was like, awesome. Nice to meet you. And you are. Thank you so much. I'm going to go this way. But we've obviously seen a lot of praise on your butt. But do you feel like people are not giving enough attention to your pecs? I feel like all of the conversation has been butt, butt, butt, butt, butt. Yeah, it's been weird. It's funny because I made that comment being like, thanks for treating me about my butt. When I thought it was just, I knew that it was like going off because I rarely go on Twitter. I love that about you by the way. Yeah, it's just, you know how some people can't drink just because they're whatever their brain chemistry really responds a little too well to that. So they're like, okay, that's a slippery slope. That's with me and like being online. It's like, whatever the dopamine algorithm thing they do, it gets me good. So I have to be, I have to watch myself sometimes. That's amazing. But I think this speaks to your constitution of character because I think it's very easy to get sucked into this. I'm sucked into it, right? And it's just like, I understand that once you see one, and as you said, the way the algorithm works, it's going to keep feeding what you what you want. So the fact that you are willfully avoiding it, I think it's really smart. I like to engage to be informed especially since like my presence is growing in that, you know, and it leads me to cool connections and people like you, you know. But yeah, when it comes to like, kind of mindless chatter from just a bunch of people who have one thing to say, it's like, give me a lot, you know. But yeah, the but thing is interesting because I did not think I did not think that was going to happen. I thought everyone would, I thought everyone would talk generally about the sex. But I didn't think people would specifically like take pictures of my butt like, give a fire and then it go from there. I mean, I do an annual I call it my burn in the brain image list that I release on Instagram at the end of every year. And I got to say like when I psych, you know, I've seen five of the six episodes now when I think of like the image of the show that I think sort of is the defining image of heated rivalry S1. It would be the room that initial reveal of the two of you in the shower because I didn't know what kind of show I was going to be watching. It's Thanksgiving. I'm with a bunch of my friends. I'm like, oh, I heard about this new gay hockey show. Let's put it on. And that shot is really the off to the racist shot in which you say like, oh, this show is good. It's great. It's actually just so funny because I was talking about this with Hudson last night. It's so bizarre that this is that this is seen as so like spicy because we remember doing that. And so we remember like seeing each other that way. So it's kind of like, it doesn't feel like a reveal maybe, you know, I guess it's kind of the sex equivalent of like filming a death scene and then watching someone die. Like if I watch like if I think of like, you know, like my part in the Joker or fully I do like that's not shocking to me because I remember like having to stab him 10 times, you know. I guess it's the sex equivalent of that. Like I watch that. And I'm like, wow. And then everyone's like, oh my god. The bots. Oh, thank you for bringing up Joker for the idea. Favorite Lady Gaga song. Well, my best friend Bailey was here who's in my new movie. She would tell you the story of we were. Oh, god. This is so embarrassing. We were driving around in her car in high school and brown eyes by Lady Gaga. Do you know that song? Yeah, so that was really, that was a big song in my household when I was little and that song came on and it was the first time in like 10 years that I had heard it. And I just started like weeping for no reason. She was like, you cried to brown eyes by Lady Gaga. Wow. Can I just thank you for giving a deep cut because there's an answer to that question where you go for an abracadabra or a paparazzi hobby, which I would appreciate. And I wouldn't, you know, think any other thing, you know, think badly, but brown eyes. Yeah, I was, I was a, I was a, I was a big, big, big fan of her growing up because she was a weirdo. And that was kind of my statement. You're a little bit of a weirdo. I am. And so I felt very like this is cool amongst your people. I want to bring in the fantastically talented Andrew Scott who has a question. What? Hello, Connor. It's Andrew here. Congratulations on the show. So my question for you is all actors have other performers that they admire and look up to from childhood or from the start of their career. And I'm just wondering who that might be for you. And if you have any plans ever to do theater or where you see yourself going after this enormous success, I hope you all the days. And hi, Evan. What the fuck? Oh my god. Wow, that's crazy. That's actually really crazy. I love him. I actually used to, I used to work out at the equinox. That was Hollywood. Yeah. And I used to see him all the time. Never got up the courage to say hi. Maybe. Well, I'm gonna connect you to after us. That's crazy. Wow. That's really, really crazy. What was the question? There were multiple, but let's have you answer just performers that you emulated when you were a kid or actually, if I want to reframe the question a little bit, that you emulated and maybe want to work with now that you're. Always into like the Buster Keaton sort of thing. I was kind of like, you know, super old school, just the kind of like bod villain thing. Who am I really loving now? I still cannot believe that that happened. That that man knows who I am. That's crazy. I think a lot of people know who you are. That does not make sense to me at all. That's okay though. I don't it making sense to you. I don't think would do anything for your brain chemistry. I mean, like two weeks ago, this was not at all the situation. It's a crazy ride. Life's crazy. It's crazy, dude. It's really crazy. Yeah, if it, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I love Kate Blanchett. Sophie Wilde. I love Sophie Wilde so much. Yeah, I think she's, first of all, the most beautiful person on the planet. Second of all, I just like, I see her having the coolest career ever. Give me one more. Growing up, I really liked Jack Nicholson, because I feel like we both kind of have the same like eyebrow thing, you know, like I realize when I talk, I kind of do that. There's someone else that's, there's someone else that needs to come out and I can't remember what you just did that just now. Like you're like, you are an fucking actor. Like, I'm just like, you brought him into the room. Well, we'll put a pin in this for now. I feel like I hope this is part one of a part two. I just want to end by just congratulating you again. This show is phenomenal. I love a big cultural moment like this. I love how exciting it is watching people have something to love. I need not tell you it's a miserable world out there right now. There's a lot of things to hate about the world, about society, maybe even about the entertainment industry and what you are doing on this show and what this creative team is bringing forward is joy for a lot of people. And that needs to be celebrated and taken seriously. So I just want to really like from a heartfelt place say like, thank you for everything that you've done for these fans and for giving us this show. Yeah, and thank you for, first of all, I'm so overwhelmed by everything you've just said and I'm so thankful. Also, thank you for being like genuinely really supportive of this and genuinely giving it so much thought and care and I think you're I think one you're a huge cultural help in so many ways and yeah, I really, I really, really, really, really, really appreciate your time. Thank you. Does that mean you're in for part two? What are you talking about? I want to do it right now. Thank you so much, a pleasure. Seriously, thank you. Wow, you made me kind of cry like twice. Wow. You did not think that was going to happen, did you?