Commanders DE makes WILD Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen claim, ANOTHER Baltimore Ravens player SLAMS hate

A commander's defensive end made a wild the more Jackson and Josh Allen claim, and it has a lot of people asking questions. You are locked on Ravens. Your daily Baltimore Ravens podcast, part of the locked on podcast network, your team every day. Welcome into the show. I'm your host Kevin Ostrecker of Ravens. Why are you here with you on the locked on podcast network? Your team every day and now the number one sports podcast network on today's show. Another Ravens player clapped back in Lamar Jackson to hate. We'll talk about that in the second part of the show. But in the first part of the show, we'll talk about what that player was actually clapping back against and take. That commander's defensive end trials. A men of you made about Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. And it is circulating right now and has a lot of people kind of wondering what is going on here. Why is this the take this being put out at this point? So Charles and men of you who signed with the commanders of soft season, he was with the chiefs for a couple of years, obviously in Houston as well. He went on speak easy with the show McCoy. I mean, watch out. That's that show that they do. And they were talking just about, you know, football and everything that was, I guess, going on in the league and I guess the conversation got to Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, et cetera, et cetera. And Charles and men of you said, quote, I don't think the league is truly figured Josh Allen out with Lamar. Honestly, you bring a five man rush on him and collapse that pocket. He's drifting backwards and unfortunately, he might make a play that isn't going to be the best play for the Ravens. What Josh is going to drift backwards, run around. And one, he's so hard to tackle. He's a large human being hard to get down. And he can make every throw every throw from no matter where he's at his arm strength. That's unbelievable. I don't think Lamar has that big amount of arm strength. I think you figured out Lamar. You come after him, bro, you close all the lanes, you five men rush him and you cover his guys. And I think you get it done. It's been shown. Man, this is just crazy hating in my opinion. Like genuinely, this is the problem with the discourse surrounding elite quarterbacks and discourse surrounding particularly Lamar Jackson, where he is put up against his peers all the time. Or why can't we just appreciate the greatness of both guys and say, you know what, the league probably hasn't figured out either of them because Lamar is a two time MVP. Josh is one in MVP himself. You know, where's the respect for both guys here? I'm totally comfortable coming on here and say the league is not figured out Lamar Jackson. And the league is not figured out Josh out. Does that mean they're both perfect players? No, but to say, because some of the stuff that he was talking about with Josh out on the more Jackson does all that stuff too. And I don't know what the deal is. I think it's, I mean, I have no idea what it is if we're being honest here. But at the end of the day, when he's saying like, okay, Lamar is going to drift backwards and he's going to make a play. It's not going to be the best play for the Ravens. Then Josh is going to drift backwards and, oh, he's a large and being all this. Josh Allen has had more turnover problems over the course of his career from the Mara Jackson has. Right. So I don't understand that part of it where we've seen the Mara drift backwards plenty of times. And either escape pressure or even just throw the ball up and it gets to somewhere. He's able to escape pressure and all this different stuff. That's one of Lamar's best qualities. And we've heard so many people talk about it. We've all seen it with our own eyes, right? Both Lamar and Josh Allen are so good off script. And yet does that mean that every single play is going to result in a positive play for their teams? No, but why are you signaling that out about Lamar who has had less turnover problems over the course of his career than Josh Allen? Then Josh Allen again, it's not me hating on Josh Allen again. I think Josh is an incredible player. I think Lamar is an incredible player. But it's the standard that these guys are held to. Like with Lamar, there are things that he gets criticized for that Josh Allen does not or Joe Borough does not or other quarterbacks is not just a Josh Allen thing. Obviously, but like that those other elite quarterbacks don't that maybe they do worse than Lamar Jackson. The somehow Lamar Jackson catches the flag for Lamar also does have incredible arm strength. By the way, he's consistently in the top five and sometimes leading the league and adjusted yards gain for pass attempts at adjusted net yards. For pass attempts yards for attempt in general. I mean, he pushes the ball down the field pretty consistently. And while the deep ball accuracy has been up and down over the course of his career, he has had incredible deep ball passing seasons. And again, he's not perfect. But to me, it kind of sounds like Charles and many of you is like discounting the strength that Lamar Jackson has. Or if we not seen Lamar throw 50, 60, 70 yard touchdowns. I mean, Josh has incredible arm strength too. But again, it's like cherry picking these things where you're just going to say this about Josh, but not about Lamar. And I think that this also comes from a place of the year that Lamar and the Ravens had last season where Lamar wasn't able to be at the peak of his powers from multiple different reasons, right? He was injured. The offensive line wasn't good. And so yeah, you know, if you rush guys and the offensive line camp block, you know, Lamar can't be Superman on every single play. And that essentially was what the Ravens were asking of him last season where, honestly, beyond last season, but you know, that's something that's a different conversation for a different day. But again, Josh Allen consistently like his offensive lines have been generally pretty good. And for Lamar, he's had his fair share of good offensive lines too, but last year he did not. And we've seen seasons where Lamar Jackson has not had good offensive lines. And so you give Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen's offensive line or an improved offensive line and watch him sit back there and slice and dice him. And then if a guy gets into the backfield, you can escape that pressure and make something happen, right? That's just it's confusing to me where I don't think Lamar has been figured out, you know who the league has figured out TJ Stroud, Tyler Murray, some of those quarterbacks, right? It's not Josh Allen. They haven't figured out Josh. They haven't figured out Lamar. They wouldn't be dominating the league like they have. And by the way, before Lamar got injured last season, he was dominating the league again. And was in the firm lead or at least in the lead conversation wise, at least in the conversation, right? For an MVP again, the win is third MVP. So I don't really know what we're doing here. If we're being honest, if I had to guess, I would probably say what I just said a minute ago of this probably has to come from a place of the Ravens and the more to never good season last year in, you know, the bills in Josh did. And that's probably the recency bias of it all, but to call a two time MVP who is not slowed down again, I'm the more is not slow now, right? Again, he was injured. The offense of all that stuff. People I think are taking that and trying to spin it as, oh, look at the year, look at the year the Ravens had. Look at the Lamar was injured. Is he doesn't know? No, sometimes four years for teams can be outliers, right? We've seen that in Lamar era as well, right? So I think that this is kind of crazy to me. I just, I want everybody to get respect when respect is deserved, right? And I think that Lamar and Josh Allen both have done enough in this league and have, you know, dominated for long enough where we can say that both of those guys have not been figured out, you know, why do we have to do this whole Lamar hasn't, but Josh has when, you know, their careers are decently similar in a lot of different ways. And you're trying to discredit Lamar for things that he, like on tape does well in the stats does well in Josh Allen does well too, but you're just trying to take the credit away from one guy. I don't get it. And that's why I think the toxic conversation around Lamar and Josh is so toxic is because these guys are always pinned up against each other. In a reality, we should be embracing how good these guys are and how incredibly lucky we are to be able to watch Lamar Jackson on a weekly basis in Josh Allen on a weekly basis. And I've said this over and over again, it's like if you're hating on Lamar and you don't like watching Lamar, you're missing out. You're missing out on a generational talent and on somebody that is very enjoyable to watch. So it's just crazy to me. We're here again. We're not even like we're so far away from the season and we're already getting this Lamar and Josh debate. It's just it's crazy. Respect both guys. I respect both guys and I think both are incredible players. And I think we should talk about them as such not try to boost one up to put one down. And I think that's what I was Lamar. He's always the one with the short end of the stick. He's always the one that gets all the hate thrown at him. And that's pretty ridiculous in my opinion. So come up with the second part of the show. We will talk about what Ravens player had to say. Another Ravens player had to say about this Lamar Jackson hate. We heard Calvin Dewey go off on Lamar hate. Well, another Ravens player chimed in with a simpler and shorter message. But one that still makes sense and hits home. So stay tuned. Point of coming up on the show. First the show was brought to you by Turbo Tax. It's tax time. But for a lot of us, the old way to do in taxes is a lot. Trying to book an appointment. That's not the most convenient sitting in a waiting room with a stack of papers. Emailing back and forth. I wonder if they really get your situation. But this year getting a major upgrade into what Turbo Tax now has in person locations. Nationwide you can meet face to face with a real tax expert. And your documents get uploaded straight to your Turbo Tax app on the spot. And just like that, you're done. Your Turbo Tax expert works to get you every dollar you deserve while you get real time notifications as you go about your day. It's the relief of walking in a meeting real person and walking out, knowing your taxes are being handled right. Head to TurboTax.com/local to find a store near you and book your appointment. And the show was brought to you by indeed. Workplace casted line stacking up inbox overflowing one position. You have to fill. sitting open when the pressure is on you need the right hire. This is a job for sponsored jobs and need sponsored jobs helps reach to people who actually fit what you're looking for. Skill is experienced locations so you're not just hoping the right candidate thumbles across your posts, nearsest app that says it all and then 11 talking to you. Companies like yours made 27 hires on indeed according to indeed data worldwide. So if you're hiring spend less time searching a more time interviewing candidates who check all your boxes with indeed sponsored jobs. Spend less time searching a more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes less stress less time more results and you need the right person to cut through the cast. This is a job for indeed sponsored jobs and this is the show get a $75 sponsored job credit to help get your job. The premium status that deserves an indeed.com/podcast. Let's go to indeed.com/podcast right now and support our show by saying you heard about indeed on this podcast. Indeed.com/podcast to ensure that you're not in the right place. So if you're not in the right place, you're not in the right place. So if you're not in the right place, you're not in the right place, you're not in the right place. And then he said, we talked about this yesterday, we talked about Calvin, what he had to say and all the stuff going on about LeBor right now. Now, nationally, all right, it just is what it is where as I've said here on this show for the Ravens centric locked on Ravens, we can talk about Ravens draft prospect. Ravens going to sign anybody before after the draft. You can talk about the workouts in Baltimore except like there's always something to talk about with this team because you know, we're just specifically focusing on them. But for the more what's going to get these national outlets clicks, star players at a league, especially one that continues to be scrutinized and one where it has been proven where if you talk badly about him, people are going to flock to it. And that is the more Jackson. So people, I think I don't want to say make up these takes, but they try to go into something that Q says in Cajur smile, who is Q obviously you can listen to him watching you know who Q is, but Cajur smile is a former Ravens severance champion. He said when we talked about the other Lamar Jackson hate that was going on this past week with him showing up to OTAs and people somehow not liking that like Eric Mangini, he said that the more outlandish of a take you have. The more eyes are going to go on it. And so that's what these people are doing and it's it's unfortunate, but that just kind of is what it is in the national media world today in sports. It seems like in Lamar Jackson to me and I've said this Lamar Jackson on LeBron James or the two most hate athletes in the world like it just is what it is where people come up with hate for LeBron and you know all this different stuff try to discredit this that and the other, you know he's not slowing down all this type of stuff and people are still trying to discredit this that and the other LeBron's face that for his entire career. Lamar is the same thing people are trying to discredit him, you know you still doing great things amazing things and people are just trying to like put him in these conversations and this is the point I've made over and over again where people try to talk about Lamar Jackson and hold him to expectations like he's the greatest quarterback of all time and so everything and anything you know one bad throw one bad mistake interception whatever it may be people are going to just block to that and only talk about that where his mistakes are magnified. But sometimes the successes are overlooked right where as for the people who hold him to that standard they also want to talk about him like he is not in that elite tier you know they talk about him like he's a second tier quarterback or a third tier quarterback and you just can't have the both ways right it's just it's it's they hate for multiple different directions and even if Lamar wins a Super Bowl he's still there's still going to try to move the goalpost like I can just see it now even if he makes it and that's what he's doing. Even if he makes it and loses it right remember how much praise Joe Borough got for making the Super Bowl and losing it Lamar it wouldn't be that case so he's someone that is generally very good at tuning out the noise he responds sometimes and that's his right to I actually kind of like it one of the more response to it and you know class back at the hate because again the reason we talk about this stuff on here is because it shouldn't go on check right defending Lamar Jackson and he's not again like I've talked about if he makes about throw or a bad play or something bad happens like we'll talk about it he's not just like I'm not going to talk about it. He's not just directly absorbed of all criticism here but he's a guy where there is too much of it on little things that should not even be storylines at times or mistakes that other quarterbacks make that don't get talked about and so Marlon's correct where when people need something to talk about where do they go back to it's all reliable it's the Mar Jackson let's make a narrative let's say this and then it's just like well why do we do that when there are plenty of positive things bring up about Lamar Jackson you can talk about the year. That the Ravens could have in the bounce back market having again like national media does that as well I'm not saying that like there's only negative from every single national media member out there right there's plenty of positive but the problem is compared to the other star quarterbacks Lamar is held to a different standard it's a different standard we all know that Lamar is held to a different standard and that based off of everything he's accomplished in this league that should not be the case because he is broken records you know what I mean. The American record is had incredible seasons incredible games you know vintage NFL moments so to be replayed in NFL history forever and ever and ever he is one of the greatest quarterbacks we have ever seen like Calvin noise said you know if he stopped playing today he's already a hall of fame right super bolstice the cherry on top or Lamar Jackson but he's also redefine the quarterback position he has changed the way the NFL is looked at is one of the premier players in this league and obviously the league is ever seen and he's still treated like this and that's the way he's going to be able to do that. I think he should like this and that's me especially from like his peers here where generally like peers and like players who play in the league and play with Lamar or play against Lamar are generally like very respectful and have a lot of great things to say and like respect Lamar's greatness this a many he who thing is is kind of rare honestly but to see it happen is definitely disappointing and again it's okay to build up Lamar Jackson while also building up the other elite quarterbacks I don't know why we have to push a guy down because it was the same. With Tyler Huntley and Lamar right people were trying to push one down to pick one up and I was like why don't we just say hey both guys can play quarterback Lamar is better than the honey but that doesn't mean honey's terrible doesn't mean that all Lamar is injured and how he's doing this so on these better know Lamar is an all time great player the Ravens starting quarterback and these guys that really fits in what the Ravens want to do and is a really good backup quarterback but again it's just like why are we comparing right why can't we just respect these guys so I have for here today on locked on Ravens thank you so much for tuning in the show on the WAPT should like and subscribe button and video form and file long subscribe not only for five days we put more of the Ravens coverage and content coming up maybe some bonus episodes on the weekend if they're headlines but if not we'll be back here on Monday with our regular schedule programming for another week of Ravens football talks I'm sure to stay tuned and I'll see you right back here soon I'm not the Ravens.