133: Colorado Barrel Chest with Patton Oswalt | Soder Podcast | EP 131

Hey, what's up everybody. I hope you enjoyed the podcast this week. Thanks for watching. This is our final day in Los Angeles. I'm very ready to go home to my couch to do the podcast, but also to play video games and take a nap. I love to nap on that couch. That's what you don't know. Where all those people sit down and talk to me. I nap. I put my face right where their butts were. But go to dancoder.com. We announced a bunch of new dates this week this Friday and Saturday. I'm going to be at the Omaha funny bone. Four shows, bring in Sagalow. It's going to be unbelievable. Then if you live in Key West, Florida, June 1st and June 2nd, I'm going to be at Comedy Key West. It's unbelievable. The ticket link is up at dancoder.com. It's going to be just a Monday, Tuesday show. But I'm excited to come to Key West and, you know, hang out. Do this hour before we record it and also kind of fuck around. And then June 5th, New Jersey Performing Art Center. There are limited tickets left. This is the last like theater show before we record the Netflix special. Dancoder.com for all those dates, go get your dates. Thank you for coming out the shows. They've been so fucking fun. Netflix's joke was awesome. Thanks for coming to the movie watch along. That was unbelievable. This is you guys fucking rule and I can't thank you enough. And I'll see you on the road. Do you like the Netflix is a joke festival being in LA? Look, I like this is like it becomes frost Nixon. I like not having look. I like not having to travel. I wish that they would do their slapping their name on everything. And if you put your name on every show, then by definition, they're not special. Yeah. Like have less shows and really do the thing. Do it be really cool to do a combination of you're these great big names doing huge shows. And that's awesome. But as much light as you put on those really give people the opportunity and make it make it seem like a special thing to hear names you have never heard before. And you're you're going to get to see them here and really push that like that is what is always because that always ends up being the exciting thing down the line when they look back and go. Yeah. At the same night that person A was at the Hollywood Bowl person B who is now person A was at this was in front of 20 people like that's always exciting. I completely agree with you that you almost kind of become a part of like comedy history almost like a almost like a sports draft where you're like I went and drafted a show in the third round and it ended up becoming one of the biggest guys in the world. That's a fucking great way to put it. Yeah. Think of it as a sports draft. I took a risk on. Yeah. I was a small one. It was amazing. And I went and got this thing. I would say the way I would instantly fix Netflix's joke festival is passes. That's what makes a festival. So by a that's a yes. Where you get a A level you get one A level headliner. Then you get like five B level. You know what I mean? Make it like a system where you're not just going to ship hell and chain and mate. But you're going to like ship hell and then maybe an impact like our show at the improv where you are seeing me and you for absurd adventures. Exactly. That way no one has to shit blood about ticket sales the way that every single comic for this festival. It's like they're there there were days where I was like because I was originally going to do a show at the Wilshire E Bell and then I looked at the other people I'm like can I just can I just host something so I don't need to and then so I hosted the the the P.W.s playhouse 40th anniversary at the Greek which is great. The pressure was off me. But part of me was like are there people in a sea suite watching us fight like gladiator fights like who's going to get like because we're all crippling. And also we're doing it in this year where nobody has any money. I know everybody's broke. And they just go so what would you do it's like you know it's the food from hook where they're going like imagine a budget. Yes. If you imagine a budget and then it appears I will say what Netflix is a joke festival does better than any other comedy festival in existence. Yeah. Is the amount of industry that is lurking everywhere. Yeah. It's just a it's a industry fest where you turn around and it's guys in fleeces. But it's not here's what's here's what sets it apart from the aspirin comedy festival. It's industry. R.I.P. I wish I would have got to do that. Well the the aspirin comedy festival God bless them. It really was more of a oh our execs get to have a ski trip. That's and and the and the comedy was almost like the third thing on the menu. Did you when you were doing that festival could you because I mean I'm joking that about the industry they're all it's just shows and then there's people there. So this is a fun festival for shows. But this is a better this is a way better industry showcase. Yeah. Because the industry's home and they're comfortable. They're comfortable and they're like I'll go see some shows and but my question to you is when you're when you were doing aspin. Yeah. Like you know there's there's like a certain like shine and glittery when you go to a festival and you're figuring it out. How quickly did you put together this is a fucking ski trip for HBO execs. Oh that was that did. But but what was great was we we all knew that so the the median themselves were like well let's make this a party for ourselves. So the all night partying that went on especially up in the oxygen deprived atmosphere. So people I remember I walked back from a show with Chris Farley. Okay. This was like two in the morning in Aspin and and it's just freezing cold and everyone's hammered and people are coming out of bars and they're seeing Chris and it was like like walk it on the street with with a Pope because yeah. Oh my god it's great. And he's grabbing people and throwing him into the snow and people are buying him drinks and so like that it became this weird mobile party going down the street. That is aspin. That's just great. Yeah. It was gorgeous. So almost like they were getting mauled by a party Yeti. Like there's a few that come out and he'd be like party Yeti. Yeah. Like the same excitement of seeing a Yeti. It's because it's Christmas. And also these again it's it's all super rich coked out of Aspin residents. Oh my god. I've seen you before. Toss me right. And I'm also I'm so drunk. None of my nerve endings are sending any pain signals. So this is the time to do it. So he was just throwing people into fire hydrants and so it was it was amazing. Yeah. That is yeah. That is gotta be very fun. What is as a someone that grew up in Colorado. It was a Colorado resident. You did? Yeah. I grew up in Aurora, Colorado. Okay. The altitude thing's very funny because it affects people in ways that will make a white guy that is perma and denim feel like a Sherpa in Nepal. We're the way that you help people where you're like this man needs water. This man needs a place to lay down. This man is dizzy. I can I've seen the signs. You know, he's in the early stages. Well, because the residents they've adjusted to the oxygen. We have the barrel chest. Yeah. Exactly. They say if you develop in Colorado, your rib cage actually is wider so that your lungs can expand more to take more oxygen. I think it's called the Colorado barrel chest, but I know it's also called just the barrel chest. Oh, because it Colorado barrel chest is a different thing where I come from. It's a it costs will cost $75. And it involves at least two divorces. It doesn't matter male or female. That's what they but they have to be divorced for some reason. But it does. It does really feel like what's with the Olympians train. Yeah, Colorado Springs. Yeah, man. I would have friends visit me or like when I would bring like a girl I was dating from New York and we would go back to Colorado to meet my family or whatever. I would always be like, Hey, number one, my family, my mom's family's very fun. Yeah. Very fun. You're going to want to drink with them. Don't. I'm telling you right now. It was like I couldn't have given more of a crossing the river into a jungle country speech to these people when I go, it will get dangerous. I will be there for you, but there's not much I can do after a certain point. Yeah. And then they start drinking and you go, you're gone. Yeah, yeah. I had one too many one night at a show in Aspen and it was and it was one of the few times where I just admitted on stage like, Yeah, I can't hide how drunk I am right now. I'm just I and it was I wasn't drinking my normal amount to get me drunk, but I'm in Colorado. Yeah. So it takes less and I didn't factor that in. Yeah. And so there was just this of yeah, you know, I drank too much. Admitting that on stage for people who don't do comedy, you have to understand it's like you're telling your boss your drunk. That's the equivalent of you working on it. I know you paid money, but I didn't really show up for work today. I'm not really as well. The office and you go, can I take some right now? I didn't adjust to this altitude of the office and I'm pretty fucked up right now. I don't know if this meeting's going to be right now. I want me on the forecliffe. You might not want me to be part of the best idea. I know that the Swiss buyers are here. I would not put me in the room. I'm a one asking for chocolate and exactly I'm drunk. I really want chocolate. Okay, Swiss, I was in Amsterdam. My first time in Amsterdam. Yeah, baby. And I went to a coffee shop. I went to a lot of coffee shops to get stoned during the day. Yeah, hell yeah. But I know the Bulldog Cafe. The Abraxus Cafe for me. Yeah. And Shout out to Lucky Mothers, which was recommended to me by David Cross. Awesome. He was like, "Go to Lucky Mothers." And they were one of the last, this is in the late '90s, they were one of the last places that would put weed in food. Okay. They were like, "We can make you, we can really enjoy it, make you tea, or we put it in food for you, put it in a candy bar or a cookie." And I went, "Yeah, give me a, put it in a candy bar." So they gave me a Snickers bar, which they, I guess they sliced the top off, put all the Maryland, put the thing like the shape, the chocolate back on, and just a Snickers bar full of weed. Now, I didn't know you're supposed to nipple that over the course of a weed. Oh, it's a dosage. It's a dink-dink-dink. It's like getting pills from a pharmacy and just going, "So I should take the whole bottle and they go absolutely nuts." So I walked around the rest of the day and I finished my Snickers bar, and then I had to show that night, and here's what was weird. I could do my material, I was not slurring, I could speak perfect fun. I could not physically open my eyes. So I did my set, I was like, "Guys," and I was, again, very, I was like, "Listen, I went to Lucky Mothers and I bought a Snickers bar and I ate the whole, and I'm clearly I should not have." Yeah. And I can't open my eyes right now. I can, I'd love to do my material for you, and the audience racks was like, "Oh yeah, we've seen this." Yeah. Like American. They came over, he ate the whole bar. They probably have a goofy Dutch word for it. Like, he, like, did an open stooge, and I'm like, "Oh, an open stooge." It's an open stooge. Yeah, that's the open stooge. The open stooge and the nose. Yeah, they opened. Whatever they did, they had to drink. Oh, open stooge and. Oh, that's the open stooge. I had a train conductor at this happen too. I know. And you know, a train, the guy was running a train. Yeah. There is, there is. I could not open my eyes. Did you, now here's my question in that moment. Yeah. Did you go for the sunglasses? Please does anybody have a sunglasses? No. No, I wanted to own it. I was very much, I am, I really just, I was really, that was a point where I was really coming into, be completely honest on stage, even when it's embarrassing as shit, like absolutely say whatever you're doing. I'm hitting that stage right now. Yeah, when you're just like, oh, fuck, I, I did it, okay, I did a set last night at the last bookstore, another Netflix, it's a joke store and joke, it's, yeah. And it was, and by the way, place was fucking to the walls packed. That's awesome. Amazing. And I did a joke that I, that is on my new special, this is by the way, I know you've experienced this. This is going to, this is going to make you cinch up when I say it. I have this, this joke recorded it onto my special, it's, the specials coming out, it's recorded. Did it last night in the moment, thought of a whole new, better tag for it, a whole new better punchline. So he's, he's one of my producers on my upcoming Netflix special, there's two bits that I fucking know. So the second I record them at the Throck, the second the shows are over at the Throck Morton. And I go to a random show. Yep. I'm going to figure out the thing I've been trying to figure out for a night, oh my god. And I stopped and said, I just ripped, I go, my special is coming out on June 9th. And I'm letting you know, you just heard a punchline to a bit and it will not be that funny on the special, because I didn't think of it till just fucking now. And then I got so angry, I said, now out of anger, I will never do that punchline again. You are the only people to fucking hear it. That's pretty cool. Like, I'm just giving it to you, and I'm doing it like there, that is, that is, that is proof to me that there is an intelligence higher than us that enjoys watching us have moments like that. Yeah. Because you go every time. And by the way, every time I record. And I'm a recorded, an album or special, and then I tore on it until it comes out. Obviously. You can torn it for a couple of months. Yeah. Yeah. At least three new punchlines where I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? So this is something when I'm, you know, obviously you still tour after you tape and then you get tags and then sometimes you get new ideas from bits and then you're like, can't because I just did that whole bit. But a feeling that I'm looking forward to is I'm, I love my closer. It's very personal. I like it. I'm so ready to be done doing it. I'm like, I mean, I am ready for a conscious of a couple of years from this closer. I don't want a bad divorce. It's not going to be messy. I appreciate everything it's done. I'm just ready to. I'm a couple. Go on your way. I'll always love you. I will leave you in the mists of Mill Valley. I will not. I will not. I will not see you. Oh my God. You're leaving it beyond the rainbow tunnel. That's what it is. You are. It is. Hey. It's beyond. It's beyond. You must go through the Robin Williams tunnel. I tell you, my first time driving back through Marin after Robin Williams has died. And they reeks. I always knew that tunnel when I was a kid and you know, you've known it, you've been in, you were in San Francisco in the 90s. Early 90s. That rainbow was always there. Always. The rainbow was always over the bridge north of San Francisco, just past Osolito. And when I was driving up to my grandmother's house and I took that corner off the bridge and it said the Robin Williams tunnel, it was like someone fucking punched me in the chest. I was driving through a tunnel being like, he's fucking ripped me up. Yeah. He's one of those guys that every now and then you look, oh, wait. He's dead. Yeah. That does suck. Why is he gone? It really does suck. What the fuck did he do? It was also like, you knew that was such a big loss because I don't, people don't make a big enough deal of this at the time. That Robin Williams died in 2014, yeah, yeah, 2014 and ISIS made a statement. Do you remember that? No. Mike, can you look at the ISIS? ISIS? And by the way, we're talking about ISIS at its peak. We're talking about Zeppelin IV ISIS. We're talking about, we're talking about Stone 72 fucking ISIS, like they are. They're at the peak of their ISIS and they literally, they're PR guy. 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That's better, h-e-l-p.com/soder, show sponsored by BetterHelp. So following the death of actor and comedian Robin Williams in August of 2014, several individuals identifying as ISIS militants or supporters on Twitter at times made statements. Some militants shared a fondness for his work with one user calling themselves a Jumanji Hadi and that's got to be fake. That's fake. That's fake, yeah. You know what? Can I say something? I think that was probably Jim Norton. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But by the way, I'm sure there were guys like America should burn and the ashes should be salted forever. But the genie in Aladdin is so delightful. But Mrs. Doubtfire. But when the breast run by the deep, he should not be in a dress. Why is he in a dress? He's a man. He's great. So, just recently, embarrassingly, we're talking about all things they're embarrassing. I have really learned how psychologically tied and tormented I am by the movie Mrs. Doubtfire. Really? It was on. We pay for the pay channels. We got HBO. We got show time. I spend. I spend. That's right. I spend the money. I got a Netflix special now. I can afford some streaming. Listen, I got to see what's going on out there. I got to keep my thumb on the market. But Mrs. Doubtfire was on because it was just like I will doom scroll. And I will watch the news and get like a lot of anxiety. But now what I'm doing is I'm putting on the movie channels just as background noise. And I'm stopping if I watch like Meteor Man the other day. Meteor Man is a weirdly underrated movie. Weirdly underrated actually kind of a and a really funny riff on superheroes. Yeah, Robert Townsend doesn't get the flowers He deserves Robert Townsend did a black superhero movie that holds up Yeah, he fucking great pretty fucking good and I had a good time watching media man Yeah, but then something rolled into Mrs. Doubtfire and Katie came home from work And she just noticed how much of a lock this movie had on me. Oh, yeah, cuz I've been starting to realize I loved that movie my dad was from the Bay Area. Oh, dad always, you know Robin Williams is a hero. His name was Daniel. There's a lot of connections. Okay He fought to be in his kids life That's the whole underlying point of the movie is hope to anything to be with his kids Watching that as someone whose dad had zero interest being with his kids. I did not realize why I like that movie so much Yeah, yeah, and I'm covering it in a way that is very uncomfortable with my fiance watching me watching she goes Oh, this movie fucked you up and I was like, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz you go. I didn't know that's why I liked it Yes, it is weird as you get older and then you look at something that you were growing up on that you like for this one reason You're sitting in a go. Oh, no, there's a whole other thing that had me that is such a sadder reason Yeah, I thought I liked it because he did voices and it was Robin Williams Yes, but then you watch it when you're like, oh, oh, there's way more about his children. Yeah, so much so again Yes, it's a very popular movie. It's you know one of the all-time Families have to watch it, but there is a Weirdly dark complex like he is a fuck-up as a husband He's a horrible husband and a fuck-up as a provider and yeah, but loves his kids anyway, and so it's like how do I? Brother do this and you are my dad at all like Robin Williams You know a horrible husband horrible provider Could be a horrible father who's not my dad hit all three of those. Oh, yeah We hit the parlay on my dad Yeah, but on that one the one that didn't hit was that he cared so much about his kids that is wheeling to and I will say this deceive Every it's such a movie where you go how did they pull this off? Yeah, this could look real bad and there's there's cut scenes that you can find on YouTube where it was originally a much darker film See and they so but all that darkness is now underneath that they just didn't put it in there blatantly Yeah, cuz Robin was I mean, you know, I didn't I wasn't friends with him But we hung out a lot especially like and right in this final years We really we we keep running into each other at meltdown on sunset. It's a comic book guy Yeah, every Wednesday, and then really? Oh, yeah, and then we would call each other and go okay. What are you reading? Well, I just picked up this guy Robert Kirk He turned me on to a writer named Robert Kirkman. He goes anything you see Robert Kirkman's aim on you grab it and start reading it Would it be weird when you're like Talking about like planet Hulk. He's like, oh, oh, but then he fights Yeah, or he'd be like oh, and you think no, but son of scar. He's pretty good. Red Hulk One of the there's so many tragedies to to Robin Williams not being here But one was that you know when you would hang out with him He would do it He would do a little bit of the Robin stuff and then he would just talk and then talk about his life and how Insane his career was and he never got to do like an amazing One-man show where he just talked about because his stories were so fascinating and he was such a not just brilliant storyteller But way tell a story and then give you an insight into it He's like I know that I approach the story this way Yeah, and then it took me like we were just saying about Miss Duffer And then I looked at looking at it this way and you're like fuck that's right And he never got to do that. Yeah, that would have been why didn't you get to do that? I think everyone you know, we were joking around me and the Rosa were joking around this about last night like he was talking about Regan and he was like yeah Regan do one final thing where you just like He was like he told reggae. He's like just do a special cult And just like just I do like the do so far I looked around but we were also saying about I'm sorry You just had a visual think of the Netflix save screen. Yeah, it's the word But it's still Brian doing his brain face But he's doing the do this face where he's like Yeah, and it's like this but like we were talking about that with Napar Getzi like just set it on fire on your last yeah, and that would be Robin Williams just going like I just really what happened on Morgan Mindy. Yeah, and here's what happened on Cadillac man Yeah, yeah, and I wasn't happy about Awakening's because the mirror was a prick and you're like I would love to hear Even like the stories you would tell me about making pop-eye crazy where they're so cooked out of their mind well first off If you read have you rewatched pop-eye? No, okay, go rewatch Another watch along. Yeah, it is a sneak remake of McCabe and Mrs. Miller his earlier Robert Altman movie to the point where They go to when they go to the bedding track There's a little red light whore house sure and there's a woman with red curly hair lying on like one of those opium beds looking at a Pieces staying glass, which is the final shot of McCabe and Mrs. Miller. They put that in there in the movie and he said We're on the island of Malta, which is gorgeous, and but they had very very strict Import laws we couldn't get cocaine in there and our producer was Robert Evans Robert Evans I what time I I got Harry Nielsen and Robert Williams and Robert Altman to do pop-eye was I crazy I was Like a box you so he ever played Robert Evans in that show about making the godfather. Yeah, who did that that was that up? It's the miles teller show. Yeah, yeah What is it called like not the the bargain? Yeah, well we'll get the offer the I might be the called the offer Okay, it might be called the offer. It is the offer that shows fucking phenomenal Yeah, yeah, but the guy that plays Robert Evans if we look it up he was fucking for Matthew good Listen, Matthew was good. It was a great. No, it could be Robert Evans. No one baby. They were gonna get go We need to get coach to Malta. Well So Robin said they couldn't they were having trouble getting cocaine in and then suddenly every Friday three like insanely hot Slovenian models would show up and Then they would go into the restroom and they would come out and then there'd be cocaine for everyone So so Robert Evans would like get them to you know, and and then the custom guys were like And they wouldn't bother them and then they would go that's how they got the book. Can I tell you right now? By the way, that's a movie in itself. Yeah, make that look holy shit Can I also tell you it makes me yearn for a simpler time where Beautiful women could trick men of authority by doing like under the chin and then smuggle in Oh, yeah, yeah, it's by Under the chin of a guy where he goes Like that. You're like, buddy. Yeah, please come to mark the you're right, right? They're like Let me open this balloon up Yeah, that was yeah, because I only Met Robin Williams once and he was very quiet. It was at the comedy seller. He was he went when he wasn't on He was conserving his energy and like Gilbert Godfrey. It was very Gilbert was the same way. Yeah, I mean, although every time I ever hung out with Gilbert We were yacking about old movies about a legacy. So I'd never really saw him calm Watch him almost get like activated at the seller. Oh yeah, he would just be like sitting there and he'd be like And you know Gilbert you have to go on and then you'd be like why is it that I But it was like zero to a thousand. It's like the sandflats you flip the switch Yeah, it was like one of those cars on the sandflats Like he'd be like I always remember this is specifically what I always do and everyone will talk about Gilbert Godfrey always wanted to take home food Yes, he did so when you were comedy seller food utensils anything. Yeah, so him and his lovely wife Yeah, he'd be at the comedy seller and they would always be talking to a waitress and this was always before his set And he'd be like, please I get that to go and they'd give him like the one of those plastic bags like five to go things Oh my god, and then he would just go down those stairs And he would go up and he would just a me you could want you could sit in the stairs and hear it like like a fucking siren go off He'd be like, I'm standing here Wondering why that was I when I used to listen to him. That's what I started doing Michelle Wolfe is Gilbert Godfrey. Oh, I don't understand why am I it's very close. It's very It is very okay I'm Michelle wolf going What I hate to I hate to take this conversation in You were telling me earlier and then I cut you off and we never got back to it about your new special you have this closing bit You'll be very very happy to be because we're talking about when you think of a new thing sure and you were about to say something about Because I also have a closing bit that I'm very secure in knowing I can always close my show on it But I you I have to let it go because I got to do something new it's a it's a binky. It is a binky Yes, that's yeah, I will tell you right now when I was building this hour I had that first and there's like pretty young college I'm ex-watching. I would give the advice of get your closer first. - Figure out what you almost go. I would hit 35 minutes. I knew my closer was 20 minutes. So I would go like, it would hit that 35 minute. Even if I was struggling, even if the show was like, I'm trying jokes and they're not really working and I'm at the funny bone. - I can always land on this. - I'm at that 35 minute mark and I go like, (grunts) and then you just go like, it felt like a parachute. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like we're gonna lay in safely on this. But then now it's like, I really am doing like, almost like a sitcom final episode. Like running my hand along it. Like, we went through a lot of shit, baby. - Yeah. - But this is it, this is the last. - Remember that time we were locked in that ball. (grunts) - Yeah, this is me being like, oh, that show in Portland, Maine really wasn't going well. And then you bailed me out, brother. - So you know, have they, do they know what the release date of the specials is gonna be, as you don't know that yet? - No, this is one of those leasing ones where we're just making it. - Oh, oh, and then they'll, okay. - Yeah, so it's like a Netflix special, one of the, you know, the people at Netflix are great. They've been great to work with. But one of them texted me and they were like, we're so excited to do this. And I was just not in the right mood. And I texted back, yeah, I'm excited for you to borrow my special for two years. - Yeah, yeah. - And then just no response after that. - What if you had written back, who's we? - Yeah, that's what it, but there really is like, you know, it's cool and I'm excited for people to see it. But I, I'm very excited to take a special in the Bay Area. And it, 'cause I feel like this is the last time in the sophomore. - Oh, the track morning section gorgeous, the air. - It's so cool, it's so like very northern California. - My new special was the first one that I taped in an actual comedy club. - Where did you go? - I taped it at comedy on a state in Madison, Wisconsin, which I did it like a year and a half ago. - That fuck, yeah, it is a cheat code. - Don Tommy works in Denver, or cheat codes? - Is ridiculous, you know what it reminds me of? No, not the comedy works, the comedy on, on state in Madison, Wisconsin. - No, I'm saying both of those codes. - Oh, both of those, yeah. - Don't they're equal cheat codes? - They remind me of back in the 80s, the two clubs. Remember, well, you're young, you don't remember this, we would send out, we would send out videotapes of ourselves. - Oh. - And they club that you made it, they had a VCR. - Oh! - And they would put your tape in them. - Okay. - And that's getting right now. - That's how you, yeah. - Are you enjoying your piece, Pat? - We're the first example of podcast sundowning. - Yes. - But you would mail to you to that? - With her. - But we would mail our videotapes out, and the two places they wouldn't take videotapes from were Charlie Goodknights and Raleigh and the Ice House, 'cause those were also cheat codes back then. - Okay, so they knew. - They're just like, this is not an indicator of how good or bad you are. - Buddy, you could fart on stage, you get a standing ovation. - You kinda could, especially Charlie Goodknights, it was ridiculous how good it was. - When I started comedy, it was right when everyone went from tapes to DVDs, and I was starting in comedy, but I was an open mic, so I didn't have a tape or anything. - But I remember the club, I started in Tucson, it laughs. - Okay. - I would work other clubs around there, whatever, and I remember the owners being like, they're old. They were like, old club owners, they go like this. - Believe they want us to take these DVDs, like they're like, what is this? You got to buy a laser disk. - You got to buy a whole new machine, what am I? - You send a tape, and you get to tape, but I was at the ass end of the VHS. - Okay. - I was in the beginning where people were in the weird, if you had a camcorder that could make DVDs, you were like, you were king, people were like, please take my set, my first weekend that I am, see it laughs, it's on a mini DVD. It's all of the ones I need to put in the bigger one. - Hmm. - Do you remember those? - Yes. - Yeah. - Holy Jesus. - You were a technology. - You were a truly transitionist. - Yeah, that was. - That little thing that you would drop the mini DVD and then you could put it in, was that's what I have one of my first like weekends on. Factor meals, baby. It's starting to become hot. You're gonna want some summer meals. You maybe wanna start losing some weight. 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See website for more details. - I have like, I have a closet full of CDs of shows, early shows, and this is, yes, this is kind of a brag, but my alma mater is, they go, we want your archives, like send us all your stuff. We will build an archive of all your things. - That's fucking. - So I'm gonna send them all my raw CDs and they're gonna catalog them. And so I'm like, damn, like, you know. - Before you do that, I would ask, just because I always love like, finding out more stuff about comics that are, I've been around longer because I think like what you said about the stuff about admitting your faults or whatever. Man, if I would have learned that in my 20s, I would have been such a better comic because it's so hard to learn. - Yeah, but I think what I'm glad is there are now, there's documentation, my first HBO half hour and a lot of these are these CDs. - Oh yeah, that's, you're the piss drinkers, Inc. - Even before that, and also after that, but what I'm saying is, there's also documentation of me before I was comfortable enough to be vulnerable on stage, and there's early versions of me where I'm still in that. Let me tell you how it is, and I'm awesome, and I'm brilliant, and so you can, and it's like when you watch, there's really, I'm not, I'm not comparing myself to Richard Pryor, but there's early Richard Pryor where he's trying to be Bill Cosby, and he's not Richard Pryor. - You can watch. - And you can see the transition starting to happen. - I think it's not the big habit show, it's earlier than that, but there's-- - Oh, way earlier. - There's way earlier, there's like a Pryor on-- - Might have been Jack Pryor. - Yes, and he comes out and he is jujut doing Cosby. - Absolutely jujut doing Cosby. - Which is, if you ever can read the book Pryor Convictions, the autobiography of Richard Pryor, which he wrote before he died. The scene about him going to Berkeley and wearing the Dishikie doing acid and then cussing, and then what's crazy is what they have documented is, you can watch Richard Pryor live and smoking, which he recorded at the improv in New York City, and he fucking bombs. - He bombs, but he starts talking about sucking dick and being addictive. - They showed it at the American Symptech, and it's the one, and they even show a tiny clip of it at the beginning of live and concert, where all the balloons are on stage, and he riffs something with the audience, and that actually gets last, but the audience, they are not ready for it, they're not digging it. - And it's crazy to watch. - When he does the junky thing and he starts weaving back before he goes, I'm sick, and the audience is just dead, like what are we looking at? - He did not want it, but then you see, 'cause then you watch '78 live and concert, which is like one of the greatest hours of all time, which is being heckled the entire time. - Everyone's yelling, screaming at him, and he's doing these bits about his dad dying of a heart attack while fucking, and people are just fucking screaming at him. It's wild, and he stayed in the pocket and killed it. But I think the thing is, is like the question I had about getting older is, so you have all this archive. Is there a part of you that, before you sent it to your alma mater, once the listen to go, oh, I never did anything with that bit, but now I'm a much stronger comic. I can take that premise. Young, young, young, I thought it was a good premise, maybe older Pat, and can-- - I really, I kind of, I remember Stephen King saying something about, he goes, I don't keep a notebook, because if I get an idea, and then it just stays with me, and eats at me, and then I know that's an idea that it pursues, and if it doesn't stay with me, it means it probably wasn't that important, and if there was a bit that I just could not, or didn't follow up on, I mean, yeah, actually, I mean, I should listen to them. - So I just wonder, like the thing we were talking about, you tape a special and all of a sudden you figure it out. Well, there also has to probably be something that you never figured out that you just put, that you put down out of frustration. - Yeah. - And then you know what I mean, you walk by as a vet now, and you pick it up and you go, oh shit, that's how that goes. - Fuck. - 'Cause I did that. - Now I got it out of my old notebooks. - Well, there did, yeah, I have so many notebooks. - So maybe do that. - Yeah, do the notebooks, yeah. - Because it is cool where you go. It's actually not a bad premise, 22-year-old man. - They're digitizing all that from me right now, so once I get it all, 'cause I mean, I just like-- - Oh yeah. - Hundreds of CDs. - He's like, right? - He's like, I didn't record it off of soundboards and clubs like, hey, do you want this? I'm like, yeah, and I just took it and threw it in a closet. - Great. But now I have it, so I'll go through. And yeah, and I also I have so many fucking notebooks, so I can go to those and you know, that's always what I thought was great about standup It's like if nothing is ever really dead until you record it Yeah, and then you just go like oh fuck I completely forgot and as we've learned sometimes even when you record it It's not dead because then later you like hand comes out of the ground Has this ever happened you have a bit and you got it all worked out and you fucking record it on a special on an album Yeah, and then you realize oh the whole first three minutes I could leave out and it's even a tighter But I don't even need the whole fucking preamble for it and pointing at him is when I did my YouTube special Mm-hmm. I did an hour in Portland, Portland, Helium. Oh, that's a great club. That's a cheat code Yeah, that's another key code. I we film it and we were in my living room editing it and We just went like I don't think we need that first 15 minutes at all Mm-hmm, and then we cut it and we put it out and then like the first response was like this is fucking airtight Had a bunch in it. Yeah, 15 minutes of fucking burps and farts. Yeah, we cut out of it But yeah, I it's like that's always to me the fun part of the editing thing is like Taking away stuff from it and being like yeah, you don't need that. You don't need it at all You know right there and it's also like I wish more things did that like companies and You know whether like car companies and shit just make things better I feel like we're in a weird stage because I don't know this disclosure We're in insinification right now where we're adding too much. Yes, you know like that your your car It's almost like I it's almost like that my my car my car dealership needs to have its own version of a genius bar I can bring and they teach me what all the buttons do like I don't need all this shit just Yes, but that's what's interesting right now is like we're not efficient at making stuff as much as we used to be no and now There's also stuff coming out where you're like and there's aliens might be real This is what it's happening like more inefficient than where we're just like yeah because it keeps going like other people Like disclosure and the Spielberg movie happens to be coming out with like every I don't know if I'm being marketed to or if there's Otherworldly beings. That's what I'm trying or are they trying to ramp us up toward it so that there's not mass panic They're what are they trying to ease us into it and which is like and by the way listen I rewatched close encounters of the third kind so that movie is That movie is probably one of the best movies of the 70s. So they're saying that this movie disclosure game that got in June is an answer to that well, okay, here's that's what I heard. I don't know if that's true. This is gonna sound very kind of This is gonna sound I hope that doesn't sound evil, but the whole section of the movie where they are trying to They show the government dirty tricks guys going okay We got to think of a thing. It's a gas leak Yeah, we got to scare people off. I got the pigly wiggly trucks. They're hiding everything and you're like then from When that movie came out based on how we have reacted to COVID and Trans people and anything new and the panic said it's cause. I'm like I think the government was right to keep that shit from like We call he has a species. We can't handle shit. So we cannot handle anything Excellent point that I this is the only time I could make this point Completely agree with that yeah, because I am a child of the 80s and 90s. I grew up with hyper violent Action movies. Oh, yeah, I mean, I grew up crazy obsessed with Rambo commando shorts and ager and Stallone Anything they did. I mean B movies anything I could see where there was hyper violence all the ripoffs want to see him Oh, I want to say yeah, all the jace the eradicators. I love them. I love Robo cop one two and three. Yeah, I love the whole franchise. Yeah It's all I love the meek willy don't ask me to choose Just like I won't choose my Rambos now. I know first blood is an actual movie with three Three they teach the Taliban I which that age aged horribly. Yeah, where you watch Rambo literally trained and they and the end there they're joking That's in in Rambo and the end title is this movie is dedicated to the brave fighters of the Mujadine who took down Yeah, thank you Sama say and then there's also there's a James mom movie where he teams up with the Mujadine That's what I mean one of the Timothy don't want you're like, okay, yeah, the only thing better than getting pushy is teaching tennis I'm a child of hating Tipper Gore right rental advisory MTV we were looking up to your generation is like these guys you guys were in your 20s We don't give a shit and you guys were cool. Jen X was like fuck all this shit rock and roll needs to be uncensored it Ramb music needs to be uncensored and television needs to be uncensored and I'm a kid and I'm like fuck yeah And then I get older and I grew up in Colorado and you know Amass shooting happens and you go what a tragedy? Columbine and then another one happens and you go It was Tipper Gore right. Yeah, yes, we're all those people that were like there's too much violence in movies and you're like Yeah, fuck I'm on their side. Yeah, like you don't want to be on their side But you're like and then you read about like how the school of the America's trains assassins and one of the things They de-sensitize people to violence they torture animals for them as shown footage people being killed to the day don't and you're like It would I think what would have fast tracked the thought of maybe they were right is if we found out that mass shooters We're doing like Arnold lines Sorry malls closed That's a little thing Did you know that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold's last words were schools out? Yeah, and you go oh, no Pencils down I I am all for free speed. I could not be more for free speech But every now and then there's something where I'm like is I'm all for free speech But I'm also for smart speech like yeah, when a sermon Glockland. She wrote that song a possession and a lot of the lyrics she took them from a Letters that this obsessed fan was sending to her a stalker so she used his lines in the song and I'm like So let's just get into the legalities of it. Right does he have a gripe is a song right? I'm currently he did sue her and it was a whole and then he ended up killing himself, but it's like Is that this and then I remember right after the Oklahoma bombing and you can watch it? There's a trailer for that horrible remake a day of the jackal called jackal with jackal with Bruce Willis Jack black and it's it's it's close-ups of a hand No Bruce Willis and city potty and Richard gear. Yes, and jack black has a horrific death. Yes, yes, yeah, with the gun I know exactly. Yeah, but there's so in the trailer There's like close-ups of the hand of hands his hands like building a bomb and wiring stuff and the voice of risk in his own way He's an artist and this will be his master piece. I was like Are these the images in line to put especially with the way the country is for is that the best thing to be saying right now? Everyone I am an artist because the the doc the documentary if you were alive for the Oklahoma City bombing and I remember at the exact same time what was going on was Richard Koclinski So people were linking thinking that the unibomber was the Oklahoma City bomber right and then it was like but you're right There was this like fever were at all anyone wanted to talk about was Oklahoma City bombing. Yeah, so there was an Exact that was cutting it where the guy the voiceover guy goes. I can't do this. I can't do this. I don't they got to do it and he goes This This is his art. I mean I lost the cousin my cousin worked in the federal building This is his masterpiece. Yeah guys. What the fuck are we doing? Yeah, there is like this. Do you want to get your deck stained or not? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is this like sensitivity. We go maybe we don't do this right now And say with look. I love Eli Roth and this probably isn't even Eli's fault again They cut the trailers. You have very little control, but it was right after all of the Trayvon Martin death. Yeah, and again all the students his remake of death wish Oh, yeah, the trailer is he's like in a hoodie and you I've got to protect what's mine And then there's this hot blonde with big boobs. You're locked and loaded baby. I'm like These are not the best images we putting out right now It's starting to argue me between a drunk couple Forget her at the airport one time and they go. Yeah, you fucking baby bitch Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone angry and there always is like I'm always amazed at That level of evil, which I don't know if you can call it evil or if you want to call it just pure apathy I think it's pure apathy. I don't I think Apathy caused by greed apathy caused by greed and then the apathy is there to chew so they can sue their own greed they think They they they've looked in a mirror and going to fuck that's a really evil greedy-ass thing to do and then so the only way To press like well, I don't fucking give a shit look is the business man Or then they'll do this shit where they're like look we all do this shit like they try to make it so that everyone is like No, not everyone is corrupt and shitty as you which I feel like is The antithesis of how they got so many people in the Epstein shit where they're just going like what man We all go to the end we party like there might be guys that just went to Epstein I know that we're like do I do the business deal they said they would sign the deal if I went to the Listen go watch or read Serpico the first thing the corrupt cops do is like hey, you want some free free food You want to like they they just want you yeah And the first the first thing they want to do is get you on the payroll so you can go now you can't blow whistle That's that meeting in the park They go, yeah, we just do this come on man. You're in and by the way and the first person goes hey, I don't want this They're like get get rid of him by the way Comics are no different. We are no we are the most corrupt cops Where they go like this? Hey, you should really like It's try to be funny. You try to be real try to be yourself try to be authentic and make people laugh and you go Yes, protect and serve. That's all I want to do All right, well, I took the bit because I needed it. Yeah, yeah, it's not going to say good news Well, I wouldn't I take the bit? Well, he's not gonna use it. He's in fucking New Mexico So I took it and I took it to LA and you go. Oh, that's corrupt But then they do a small thing where they go. I don't know. I've got a lot of fans. What you come on my podcast You know, fuck me. Oh, fuck I'm a compromise. We can totally we can 30 copper twenty twenty. Yeah, I mean again I don't want to bring up the Riyadh thing We could go down some very bad roads here Come on, man. Don't you want to Anyone you've ever said they've all had to do it. Don't worry about you know I'm like it's like denser Washington in training day. Yeah, listen You got to do this. Yeah, so you can then do the stuff that then we can do the stuff that's good Chicago comp Holy on my wife. I'm like, I'm like, Don't you understand key and doing jokes about my dead dead Do I do doing tic-tac shit? I don't want to be posted on that dude. Damian. Influencer. Yeah, I can write caps I don't want to talk to the fucking crowd, but it's what everyone's doing now Yeah, I don't know what I'm like doing here. I was a wise guy. They're not wise guys But you've seen how I'm now whenever Maria Vanford does crowd Works, she'll give the person $20 because like you're working. That's so cool. You should get money for this It's the same as when you go to the store and they have the automatic bag or thing You're like are you gonna pay me for putting in an hour at time doing shit? I think the sign of Hall of Fame all-time joke Is that whenever you do something you think of someone's bit? Mm-hmm I cannot bag my own groceries without thinking of bill burrs joke about Worked the self-check out line where he goes. Oh this whole time. I thought I was a comedian turns out I was late for my shift at the grocery store Does this whole thing? I think of that line every time I'm begging it where it's like oh Yeah, I work at the grocery store. It's well I did I did a bit and I stopped doing because it was so grim, but it was real I mean it got last but I got sad doing it We do remember when the self-check out things first came out and they had the other check out the actual check out people teaching you how to use it Teaching you how to replace them Yeah, but they they made the humans in the store come over and go This is how I'm out of a job. They still do let me show you which is the fucking it's the most cook chair In the world where they go you sit right there in your chair. Yeah, watch the computer do it But like part of you want to go. No, let me let me go over to your aisle and let you no, no, I don't want you to go out of my way Please I will go out of my way to check out. Yeah, yeah me too. I won't use those things I feel terrible bag of meat look at me bag of meat. Yeah, scan scan the things that bring me fuel It's it's 545 you just put in eight hours work and we need you to put in another 20 minutes here at the store Because I'm gonna tell you no way none of your groceries are gonna be cheaper now you get noticed count for doing this and I if I'm gonna Do that I'm gonna take smoke breaks with the guys that work at the grocery store. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be like Well, there's an aisle it's packed up and I'm gonna steal some yogurt pretzels out of the buffet like everyone else does I mean my god, I do honestly one of the things I do miss about working a shitty job is Stealing from a place that I thought was fucking me over. Yes. It's a good youth thing to go It's a very good youth thing to do where you go because you feel like you take a little bit of the power back Yeah, a little bit of the no matter where you work because you're you are Making someone else money, mm-hmm, and you're and you're throwing away. It's a large corporation I'm talking about small businesses. No, if you're working for you know, you know, but I'm a massive chain They're back in beyond. Oh, yeah, this is when I'm saving up money to move. Oh, so that's why they went out of business because you're shit Because I just was in the middle taking those chocolate bars out of the sheets Eating a whole chocolate bar and then hiding it in like yeah, the plastic of a down comforter Like you know how many people in Tucson, Arizona bought down comforters went home and took it out of the bag and found a lint wrapper Oh, man stuffed in the thing where they were like why is there a chocolate wrapper? Just 21-year-old me was eating chocolate The Arizona chocolate fan. I can't believe I'm talking to him It's apparently it's real I can't tell you how much this meant that you were able to change your schedule and come and hang out I was glad you were because my schedule got fucked today. So this is great, man You are all time or one of my favorite comedians I said this to you when we hung out in Grand Rapids with Brandon Sagalo. That's right Which was very fun and also Sagalo didn't want to do this, but yours favorite comedian And it was just like the whole time like to do this is surreal. You did a guest spot. We're at Dr. Grins I stayed and watched your set and it was fucking so goddamn hilarious. I really appreciate that. It was so chaotic and and real and it was like the I don't want to gush too much, but it was one of those things where I Mean I did a guest set. I did very well But then you came in and it was you and the audience clicked on this other level and I just kind of sat back and went Oh, here we go. It was so fucking great. I'm having you're I'm gonna have you cut that exactly I'm gonna play that one. I'm on a plane fucking sliding. Oh, here. We go You know as I told you in Grand Rapids truly your HBO one night stand yours and Dave Chappelle's are truly the reason same season That's right. I can still quote most of the half hours both yours and Dave's I could do the whole Nick Nolte is on so low I can do the whole cops bit. I can do piss drinkers ink as I said earlier. Wow, but truly Set me on my way to doing stand up because I watched you in Dave Chappelle and I was like, well, I want to do that Like I remember that so just the fact that you wouldn't hang out and how cool the guy you are means the world to me This is like the best. Thanks. I was well the special June 9th On on YouTube on you can get it now Gorilla Plus comedy new streaming app has all your favorites on it me David Cross Every every everyone's on there. Yeah, but then on June 9th. It'll be on YouTube That's I'm telling you right now. The thing about YouTube specials. That's great is when people hear that they go I have access to that he just watch it right now. You just watch it right fucking now. You go sign up for anything. Yeah, yeah It's fucking great. We'll check out a special June 9th. This rules you rule. Thank you. Thanks man.