Coleman Domingo, a multifaceted actor, playwright, and director, is nominated for two Emmy Awards this year—one for his comedic role as Danny in *The Four Seasons*, where he navigates marital and fatherhood dilemmas with sharp wit and emotional honesty, and another for his powerful performance as Ali in the final season of *Euphoria*, a role inspired by real addiction recovery and deeply rooted in emotional authenticity. His career began in regional theater, with acclaim on Broadway and in the West End, and has expanded to include significant film roles such as *Rustin*, *Sing Sing*, and *Michael*, where he portrayed Joe Jackson, a complex figure of demanding fatherhood and legacy. Domingo credits his success to lifelong curiosity, self-education, and a deep commitment to artistic integrity. He reflects on the challenges of early Hollywood auditions, where he felt marginalized and exhausted, leading to a pivotal shift in which he prioritized self-worth and authenticity. Now in his 50s, he embraces a new phase of career and life—one marked by intentional boundaries, emotional presence, and a focus on truth-telling, valuing both personal well-being and creative depth over relentless output. His journey exemplifies a deep, evolving engagement with performance, storytelling, and self-empowerment across decades.
This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. My guest today, Coleman Domingo, is nominated for two
Emmy Awards this year for two very different performances. In the Netflix comedy The Four
Seasons, he plays Danny, one half of a long-married couple who vacation each year with their oldest
friends. Danny is funny, vain, impeccably dressed, and now in his 50s, confronting a question he
thought he'd settled long ago, whether he wants to become a father. And in the final season of
HBO's Euphoria, Domingo returns as Ali, a man in long-term recovery who has spent the series trying
to help Rue, played by Zendaya, stay alive. Domingo won an Emmy for that role in 2022,
and this year he's nominated again for his performance in the series finale.
It's the latest chapter and a remarkable stretch for Domingo,
whose rise in Hollywood is one of the most important moments of his life.
Hollywood came after decades in the theater. He started in regional productions in San Francisco,
then moved to New York, where he performed on Broadway, won an Obie, was nominated for a Tony
and an Olivier, and wrote and directed his own plays. In his 40s, Hollywood caught up with him,
and since then he's had a steady run of roles, an Emmy, and back-to-back Oscar nominations for
the film Rustin and Sing Sing. Just this year, he played Joe Jackson in the biopic Michael,
and he's had a steady run of roles in the film Rustin and Sing Sing.
And had a role in Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Day,
and hosted Saturday Night Live, and just last month, Jimmy Kimmel.
Welcome to Jimmy Kimmel Live. I'm your guest host, Coleman Domingo.
I'm so happy to be here with all of you. We're going to have some fun this week.
Just think of me as Jimmy if he had better clothes than Zendaya's phone number.
Coleman Domingo, welcome back to Fresh Air.
Thank you so much, Tanya. I appreciate it.
That was such a delight to see you on Jimmy Kimmel. Every summer, he has guest hosts who come in,
and you were in the rotation. And you were in the rotation for just about a whole week.
Yeah, for a whole week, and it was great. It was like the week of a lifetime. It was so much fun.
And I love that things are coming to me right now, like opportunities to do things I've never
done before. I've never hosted a late-night show, but I love the idea of looking at myself the way
someone else sees me. And if Jimmy thought that I could do it, I thought, well, let me try.
But the first thing I do is I go into deep research. I went back and looked at old
Jack Parr shows.
Oh, you did. You went in.
Oh, yeah. Johnny Carson. I looked at the greats, and I wanted to figure out how did they do it,
and what was their style, and what would my style be?
Yeah. Well, congratulations on your Emmy nominations and on being able to host
Jimmy Kimmel Live.
Thank you.
The Four Seasons is such a fun watch, and it's about three couples,
old friends who vacation together for decades, and what happens to the group when those marriages
start to shift, which happens with everyone's relationship. This season, your character,
Danny, he's dealing with several issues within his own marriage. And he and his husband, Claude,
have been talking about having a child. And Claude, he's basically having second thoughts.
And so I actually want to play a scene. In this scene, Danny has just come from one of those
conversations with his partner.
And he's confiding in his best friend, Kate, played by Tina Fey, while they look at a beach
home that is for sale. Let's listen.
Okay, 655 Ocean Lane. I mean, the wallpaper is Midwest Funeral Home, but the house. If
we were smart, we would buy it and turn it into a bed and breakfast.
Oh, I'm in. I will retire early and run it, and then when our husbands die. Claude, botch, facelift.
Jack, perforate a rectum from too many unnecessary colonoscopies.
Yeah, we'll live here together.
Ah, can we do it now? Claude's pissing me off.
Oh, is it because of his bonnet?
The surrogate asks if we're still interested, but now all of a sudden, Claude thinks that
we're too old.
Oof. I mean, I get it.
No, you're supposed to say you're not too old, and how dare he?
I'm sorry, you are very young. You told me who SZA was.
Do I know for sure, for sure, if we should do it?
No, but I do know we can't keep talking about it. We're either never going to do it, or
we're going to become two Tony Randalls who feed our baby applesauce that we also eat.
Okay, if you're really having trouble making a decision, my therapist. No. has a book. Absolutely not. called The Three Magic Questions.
I'll kill you in your sleep.
It really helped me decide whether I should do Invisalign for a third time. I decided
possibly at a later date.
There's nothing to decide. At this point, we just need to push through.
Yeah.
Yes, you could push through, or you could seriously consider Claude's concerns. Is this
right for both of you, or. Hi, Brenda. We are definitely still interested.
What are you doing?
I'm pushing through.
That was my guest, Coleman Domingo, in the Netflix series, The Four Seasons. Throughout
that entire clip, you kept laughing at all the different points.
Oh, my God. Danny is so acerbic. My gosh, he's like an. Altered universe me. I think. In what way?
I don't know. He's just really pointed and funny. He's really a creation that I really,
really love. I love the way the writers write for him. He's. Did you have a hand in it, though?
The funny thing is, no. I would say the thing that I have a hand in, I will. When I first
met with Tina Fey to talk about this character. Because she's the creator of The Four Seasons.
Wigfield. They wanted to bring together a group of people that they understood, you
know, based on the 1981 Alan Alda film. But to really make it modern and fun and warm
and make sure that this couple in particular, it's one of the, you know, central couples
as well, this couple should feel like a couple that I understand. And I knew the thing that
I told Tina was, here's a same-sex loving couple that are really in very heteronormative
environments. Like, these couples are having issues like everyone else, but they're also
very spirited and very much who they are.
This is an ensemble of comedy veterans. Tina Fey and Will Forte, they came up through SNL,
as we know, Steve Carell through Second City, Kerry Kinney Silver through Reno 911, and
that is largely improvised. And you have done some comedy, but you have come from some serious
places. You come from the theater, you know?
Very much so.
Did that make for any interesting dynamics on the set?
Well, the thing is, when I first got the invitation to be a part of it, I thought,
for a second, I thought, well, why me in particular? Like, I'm not really known for comedy.
But I think that what Tina and the rest of the gang could tell is that I'm willing and I'm game.
But I hadn't relied on those comedic chops in a long time. So to lean into that was something,
it felt new and fresh again for me, especially this late in my career, where the idea of
doing a half-hour comedy was a challenge. I wanted to see if I could do it more than anything.
I can just imagine, though, being with all of those funny men and women, did it feel
good when they laughed at the stuff you said, you know?
You know, it does. But the funny thing is about funny people. And I tell you this,
they will, and I wonder if they would say this about themselves. They don't naturally
laugh when something's funny, because they're like mad scientists. They almost look at the
math of it.
Oh, they're dissecting it.
That's good. I wonder how that happened. You did this, you turned on this line, you blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
You gave a pause, you gave a beat. Most comedians I know are very serious people. And also,
they're also a bit shy. I think my, I would say this, Tina's very shy. I would say Steve
Carell's very shy. But they know how to get the thing done. Like mathematicians, they look at it
in that framework, which I think is fascinating.
You actually directed an episode.
Yeah, this season and last season.
Yeah, this season.
One of the three co-creators of the show said that when you directed the episode Ultimate
Frisbee, she watched you cry in a scene you were in while directing another actor through
his own tears, going back into that character you were in to keep crying, all while still
watching whether the background performer meets its steps. And that seems like an extraordinary
amount of work to hold all at once.
It is. And I don't know if everyone's brain is meant for that. But I think it's a great
But I feel like I have one of those brains. I can manage a lot, which is why I've always been a
director since I started in the theater, because I can handle a lot of frisbees up in the air at
the same time. So I know the scene exactly she was talking about. She was amazed that I was able to
direct my co-star while keeping my emotional work, while being able to look at playback,
while making sure that background is doing what they need to do. I just have one of those brains.
Where does that come from? I know you're hyper-organized.
Yeah, I'm hyper-organized. But also, maybe that's it. I'm well-prepared and planned so I can be loose
and free. But my mind has always been on everything. I think it starts with the way I came into this
industry, which was learning by going to rehearsals I wasn't even in. I would go and sit into
rehearsals, like when I was 21 years old, in San Francisco.
Play rehearsals.
Yeah, play rehearsals. And I would watch. And I would watch all departments and what was going on.
So I had a handle of everything.
And also, if I was invited to be in a scene, I would be able to take a look at what I'm doing and how the engine of what I'm
doing is forwarding the whole thing. So I'm never just focused, I don't know, solely as an actor or
as a writer or a director. I'm looking at the whole picture at all times. So I know I can manage
that. So I think that that's what my brain naturally does. What made you want to do that?
I'm thinking about a young Coleman. You could have just been focused on, I want to act. I want
to be on the stage or I want to write. I want to be a screenplay writer. But for you to say,
I'm going to, on my free time, step into someone else's rehearsal and dissect it.
I'm just very curious about all of it. It's always been that way for me. And I think that's
just been a very curious, I was a very curious kid. And I knew that, listen, I come from a very
humble place. I come from inner city, West Philadelphia, where, you know, a lot of blue
collar folks. I was the first in my family to go to college. And I think I knew that my power
was in learning. And I knew that my power was in learning. And I knew that my power was in learning and education and learn as much as you can and get as much as you can from every, every situation. So you name it, whatever show I'm on, I can't just go in there just as an actor. I will always end up as a director and a producer. You name it, because I have that interest. Not everyone has that. There's some people very singular, and that's also fine. But I know that like when I did the show Fear the Walking Dead, I started as number nine on the call sheet, ended in number two and a director and a producer.
You know, so for me, even with four seasons, I love the fact that I'm a director on that show, because I feel like I understand it and I can give something to it. You know, I understand the actors that I'm working with, mostly comedians, who I sort of help usher them to go to the, you know, more dramatic places, and it surprises them where they're able to go. And I love that. I love that, you know, because I know I have that, that facility to do that and help bring the best out of my cast.
Yeah, I mean, Euphoria lovers watched the end of an era this year. And to remind people, your role was as Ali. He is a man in long term recovery. He was also Rue's sponsor. And Rue is played by Zendaya. This was basically written for you by Euphoria's creator, Sam Levinson. And he wrote it based on his own former sponsor. So it was inspired by that. And there have been so many mixed reactions. You know,
of course, when a show ends, it is, you can't please everybody on how a show ends. But this show in particular, because we have been following Rue, we have been following you and all the characters, to end the way it ends feels both devastating, but it also feels true. Like it feels extremely true to life. I want to play a scene from this last episode. Ali's purpose at this point in the show
had been to be a support for people battling addiction. And it feels like a job he can't ever really be successful at because kids keep dying. I mean, fentanyl is out there and it is killing people. And without giving away spoilers, I will say that at this point in the show, Ali is tired and he is broken hearted. And here he is at an AA meeting, giving his testimony. Let's listen.
Ali's purpose at this point in the show, Ali's purpose at this point in the show, Ali is tired and he is broken hearted. Let's listen.
Let's listen.
Let's listen.
No one ever made me feel that I wasn't the person I was supposed to be.
Our guest today is award-winning actor Coleman Domingo.
We'll be right back after a break.
I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is Fresh Air.
This is Fresh Air.
I'm Tanya Mosley, and my guest today is actor, playwright, director, and producer Coleman Domingo.
He's nominated for two Emmy Awards this year, for the Netflix comedy The Four Seasons, and for the final season of HBO's Euphoria.
He won an Emmy for Euphoria in 2022.
Domingo came up in the theater and has been nominated for both a Tony and an Olivier.
He's also a playwright.
On film, he's worked with Steven Spielberg, Ava DuVernay, Barry Jenkins, Lee Daniels, and Lincoln, Selma, If Beale Street Could Talk, and The Butler.
He played Mister in The Color Purple and has been nominated for back-to-back Academy Awards for Best Actor.
Recently, he played Joe Jackson in Michael, the biopic of the early years.
You know, Joe Jackson is the reason why we have Jackson 5, why we had Michael.
He also was a complicated person.
He was an abusive father who demanded excellence.
And I'm going to play a bit of your performance, and we'll talk about it on the other side.
In this scene, Michael is a young man.
He has just finished recording Thriller.
And this is the album that's going to make him the most famous man in the world.
He lives with his parents, so he comes home.
And he finds his father in his room.
And Joe wants Michael to tour with his brothers as the Jackson 5.
And it's the last thing that Michael wants to do.
Michael talks first.
Why are you here?
Well, can't a father visit his son?
Biggest selling record of all time.
From a poor kid from Gary.
Who would have thought?
Me?
I thought.
Come here.
Joseph, I know you want something.
Michael.
I'm going to need you to tour with your brothers.
Now, I'll let you do that album by yourself.
I'm going to need you to do this for me.
For your family.
I'm not a child anymore, Joseph.
And you're not my manager.
Here we go.
I have to start living my own life.
On my own.
Just like everyone else.
You ain't like everyone else.
So you're trying to tell me you want to be treated like an adult?
All right.
You want to see what the world is like without a family that protects you.
Without a family that understands you.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Nobody else will understand you outside this place.
You'll be with all the money in the world.
Surrounded by people who say yes.
To everything.
Is that what you want?
What kind of sense does that make?
I'm going to call Don King.
And tell him you're doing a tour.
I know you don't want to let your family down.
That was my guest today, Coleman Domingo, as Joe Jackson, and Jafar Jackson as Michael Jackson in the movie Michael.
Well, Coleman, you just mentioned that in order to play Joe, you had to tap into the Joe inside of you.
I think that's really interesting.
Tell me a little bit more about that.
I'll say that Joe Jackson that would live in me is represented by all the blue-collar men that I know of a certain generation who were raised, you know, pre-civil rights.
The men who were like maybe had a third-grade education who they believe it was work ethic, showing up, showing up for your family and making it a family business.
The great migration men.
It's the great migration men, absolutely.
Men that I have a soft spot for, that I understand.
It's like my stepfather was.
He was probably part of that generation.
He was a guy who had a seventh-grade education, and he sanded hardwood floors.
He had a craft.
And he was very tough.
When he met my mom, my mom had, you know, three children, and he became my stepfather.
And he had very rigorous rules, which was about education, doing your homework, being a man of your word, chores.
He was tough.
When he came home, you better make sure the house was clean.
And I think that I understood that kind of man.
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm like, okay, now let me get into the headspace of that man, that man who's got to support the Jackson family, nine children.
You know, he's working at a steel mill.
His sons have talent, and his sons also asked him to help them.
They're starting a group.
Everybody's starting groups.
And he saw talent in his kids, and he worked them.
That scene that you played is one of my favorite scenes, actually, because it starts to go into a lot of the things that, you know, I have to look through the lens of Joe Jackson.
I had to look at.
The lens of being a father and a parent.
I couldn't let what people said about him be the truth.
And how did you do that?
Because you're an actor, but you're also just a person who was born and raised in the United States.
And the place that the Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson plays in our imagination looms so large.
I mean, you're coming into it with the preconceived notions.
Yeah.
But the first thing you do with anyone, you take the person and you look at the character of the person.
And I looked at interviews.
I even had one wonderful, this interesting interview.
I wouldn't say wonderful. Interesting interview when Joe was asked about, like, being harsh to his children, especially to Michael. And he sat there with a smile. He said, well, yeah, Michael said, yeah, I whooped him. Yeah. Like, he admitted, like, I whooped him. He said, but I whooped him all the way to the bank. So in his mind, he's the hero.
If you're just joining us, my guest is award-winning actor Coleman Domingo. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.
This is Fresh Air. And today I am talking with Coleman Domingo. He's up for two Emmys this year for the Netflix comedy, The Four Seasons, and for the final season of HBO's Euphoria.
He's also been nominated for back-to-back Academy Awards for Rustin and for Sing Sing.
In 2024, you play Divine G in the film Sing Sing, for which you were nominated for an Academy Award. And it is about a group of men
incarcerated at Sing Sing Prison who put together a play. And it's based on a real program there called
Rehabilitation Through the Arts. And your company, Edith Productions, which is named after your mother,
helped finance and produce this film. What was it that made you say, I've got to go all in? I've got
to put my whole self in it, my money, my time. Everything. And act in it. I got this really
incredible opportunity from
Greg Cuidar and Clint Bentley, the director and producer of Sing Sing. They were putting together
something that really, there was no script. And it was just an article, an old article they had
about this program. They sent me that and they said, we've been trying to make a film about this
program in some way, but not about the program. It should just be about people. And then the idea
of inviting former incarcerated men to be a part of it, who went through this program,
called Rehabilitation Through the Arts, that started in Sing Sing, where you have theater
professionals, they come in and they teach the incarcerated men theater games and put on plays.
And they found that doing that, and it was all organized by the inmates,
they find by doing that, it helped these guys get more in touch with their feelings,
exhibit a bit more empathy. It became a tool to help them and process while they were on the inside.
And the recidivism rate was less than 6%.
Of those who had gone through the program.
Of those who had gone through the program, which I thought was extraordinary. So based on all of that,
I thought, I would love to be a part of this.
Divine G, your character, who's a real person, in running this theater program,
it's his entire world. And I want to play a scene where he's at his clemency hearing,
because he's at a moment where he's up for potentially being released from prison. And
that's what's meant to him. And one of the commissioners isn't buying it. She wants to
know whether she's watching a performance. Let's listen.
You've been involved in numerous programs. It's too long a list for me to go through,
but I do have a question about the theater program. You've been involved in that many years,
have you not?
Yes. Yes, ma'am. I am a founding member of this program. It's something I'm very proud of.
And what part do you play in this program?
Actor, director?
Well, we all do a few things. I'm on what is called the steering committee. We make a lot
of decisions for how it operates. And from time to time, I do act, like we all do. And
it's been a program that was established to help the population with management skills.
And it's turned into something a bit more, I don't know, wonderful, because it helps
people get more in touch with their feelings and able to process
and actually move through and truly get some rehabilitation.
So are you acting at all during this interview?
Absolutely not. I truly hope
I hope that you can understand that I've been very sincere.
I know how meaningful this is.
I would never, actually, that's not the intention of acting.
Acting is just a process.
I read about the program.
It's a good program.
That is my guest, Coleman Domingo, as Divine G in the film Sing, Sing.
Yeah, the clemency officer is played by the great Sharon Washington.
Thank you, yes.
Who is one of my dearest friends.
And so I was able to populate the film with just a couple actors
who are actually professional actors who can help anchor these moments.
And so when this scene comes up, I thought we need that voice of someone who is the system.
And in particular, I think it was written as sort of a white male.
And I brought the idea of Grey Creador up.
I'm like, I think it should be a black woman.
Because no one knows that a black woman,
when she's in a position of authority,
in that way, she's got to be more system because there are more eyes on her.
So she almost had to be a bit more removed and be the system.
And I thought, that's also a complicated story.
That's a story within a story of the demands put on black women.
You know, one of the things also about that performance that came up for me is like,
okay, it's you in front of, you're having to display yourself in the same way.
It's not the same thing, but similar to the audition process,
where you have to stand up before people and they have to judge you.
And my goodness, early in,
your career, you did this so much.
All the time.
I think I read here that you were auditioning in your 40s as many as eight times a week,
still bartending, and you weren't working.
And there is one day when you received a phone call where you decided that like, I'm done.
I was exhausted from the output that I've been putting in for years in this industry.
And the gains that I've had, many, many gains.
By the time I went to the West End in London,
I was performing.
The Scottsboro Boys and I had an Olivier nomination and I was doing work that I thought was impactful and important.
And then I would go back to New York and then I would just like be pounding the pavement again,
almost like getting roles that I felt like didn't match what I can give.
I didn't have a lot of access or real agency.
So, and then I had like countless auditions that were sort of meaningless or I felt like we're just going into the void.
No one was seeing my tapes.
And I was just really exhausted.
I was at the point where I just sort of broke down.
I was at the gym and I'll never forget this.
I just like started sobbing after this one other huge no.
You received a phone call.
Yeah.
I received a phone call from my, my agent about, you know, everybody needs a yes.
And I was like, well, this is my yes.
I had like eight auditions this week.
I need a yes.
My finances need a yes.
My husband needs a yes.
My soul needs a yes.
And literally she called me up and she just said, everyone loved you.
Producers loved you.
Directors loved you.
It was an audition for Boardwalk.
Boardwalk Empire.
Boardwalk Empire.
Boardwalk Empire.
And it was to play a maitre d' or something, a host, a show host or something at Chalky's Bar, played by Michael K. Williams.
But it was his bar.
And I thought, well, this, this has to be the one.
I can see myself in this world.
This is great.
They need a song and dance, man.
I sang, I danced.
I wore the tuxedo in the audition.
They all loved me.
And then she said, but, but a researcher raised his hand and said, well, you know, all maitre d's.
And hosts at the time were light-skinned.
And it wasn't even about the light-skinned part of it.
That's not what I was angry about.
I literally yelled into the phone.
I said, they knew what I looked like before I got there.
I feel like everyone's effing with me.
And people didn't respect the time or energy that an artist put into something.
I thought, like, well, this business is going to kill me.
It's going to break my heart.
And my heart was getting very broken.
So I was making steps to leave.
And then.
My angel, one of my best friends, Daniel Breaker, he says, who's an extraordinary actor in his own right.
We started in Passing Strange together on Broadway.
He said, you know, my manager has been wanting to meet with you for years.
I'm like, oh, no, I don't want that anymore.
I'm good.
I'm good.
He said, just think of it.
Just meet with them.
I was like, fine.
And I went to this meeting and I was as begrudging as possible.
I had my arms folded.
I know it.
I was not the effervescent me.
I was like, this is what I do.
This is what I've done.
I could do this.
I don't know.
You tell me.
They said, oh, we'd love to work with you.
I said, well, OK, well, how about this?
Why don't we give it six months and we'll see where we go?
Within six months, I booked Fear the Walking Dead and another series.
And then I chose Fear the Walking Dead.
And that show gave me a new footing in my career.
I had a steady job on television.
It gave me some more financial stability.
It gave me a character that was pouring myself.
And so I became a director on that show and a producer on that show.
And I had more footing.
And I had that yes to keep going.
Well, you're definitely in your harvest stage right now.
And you're so busy.
You have so many projects.
And you have so many projects ahead.
Do you feel like you're in a rush to get as much done as possible?
You brought up your age many times during our conversation.
You know, I bring up my age sort of as a lovely marker.
Because I really love.
Being in my 50s.
I never knew that that would be the case.
But you would love it.
Because we were told.
I love it.
Yeah.
You know, people are like, oh, you're getting older or whatever.
I'm like, no, I feel like it's so cool.
And it's so good.
You know, so I think that I'm not rushing.
The funny thing is, I feel like.
Listen, I've told people this and they don't believe it.
I said, I'm going to do a lot more between now and about.
I'm saying 61, 62.
And then I'm going to live a bit softer in a way.
Because I feel like I've been.
I'm building so much.
I think that maybe I'm curious about evolving.
So I don't feel like that I'm rushing anything.
I feel like if anything right now, I'm taking more time.
And being really.
I'm being very conscious about time with people.
Sometimes I have to rethink because I will say yes first.
And then I'll have to reset and say, do I really want to do that?
And that's what you can do when you're in your 50s.
When you're 50s, you're like, I can do that because I'm fine with myself.
And I'm not responsible about the way a person feels about it.
Someone told me that, which is very cool.
But she was 60 and she told me this.
She said she was taking me around this plantation actually in Georgia.
And we were talking about life.
And she says, you know, how old are you?
I said, oh, I'm 50, whatever it was.
And she says, oh, she said, you're in your storytelling season.
I said, oh, yeah.
She said, yeah, when you're 10, about 60 like me, you move into your truth telling season.
I said, what's that?
She says, well, if you don't want to do something, you just say no.
I said, just no?
She said, you don't have a qualifier?
No, but she says, no, because it's not my responsibility.
But when I make another person feel, if I say it with love, but I'm honoring myself with love and grace, I say no.
And that's it.
So I think I decided to move into that chapter a little earlier.
Right.
It's now the new 60 is the new 54.
It's the new 50 and 54 to be in the truth telling season.
Well, Coleman Domingo, this has been such a pleasure.
Thank you so much.
You're so very welcome, Tanya.
This has really been wonderful.
Thank you.
Coleman Domingo is nominated for two Emmys for his performances in Euphoria,
and the Four Seasons.
Coming up, classical music critic Lloyd Schwartz reviews a newly remastered album of Handel arias
sung by Lorraine Hunt-Lieberson.
This is Fresh Air.
This is Fresh Air.
Fresh Air's classical music critic Lloyd Schwartz has often spoke about the American mezzo-soprano Lorraine Hunt-Lieberson,
who died 20 years ago at 52.
A new release of a remastered recording of her singing Handel arias,
reminded Lloyd, to his embarrassment,
that the very first time he heard her, he wasn't sure how special she was.
Critics don't always get it right.
The first time I heard a soprano,
named Lorraine Hunt,
back in 1984,
she was not yet married to composer Peter Lieberson.
She played a featured role in an early Mozart opera.
I had known her before only as a violist
in the orchestra of Boston's Emanuel Church.
My critic colleagues were totally knocked out by her.
But while I was impressed by her rich, sonorous voice,
I thought her phrasing was a little strange.
It was a little stiff and without much character.
I didn't keep that opinion for long.
A year later, she was in the landmark Peter Sellers production of Handel's Julius Caesar.
She played the son of Pompey, whom Caesar has beheaded.
The two arias of rage that Hunt sang are among the most memorable arias Handel ever wrote,
but I'd never heard them sung with such torment.
And such rage.
She was hair-raising.
And until she died, at only 52, at the height of her career,
she never failed to be hair-raising,
whether in comedy or tragedy,
in Bach, Handel, or Mozart,
or as some of the great operatic heroines of fierce but tragic Carmen
and Berlioz's noble and tragic Queen Dido.
to the blousy yet poignant Myrtle Wilson
the world premiere of John Harbison's The Great Gatsby, the role of her Met debut.
Near the end of her life, she was singing her husband Peter Lieberson's haunting Neruda songs,
composed for her. She seemed to take in and explore every aspect of a role and a score.
Her recordings are still being reissued. The latest is a beautifully remastered version
of an album called Handel Arias, mainly arias from one of the composer's last oratorios,
Theodora, his only dramatic work set in early Christian times, and in his lifetime,
one of his biggest flops. Hunt Lieberson sings the role of the Christian martyr,
Theodora's solicitous friend, Irene, who has some of Handel's most spiritual music.
Praise the hopes of endless light. This album also includes one of Handel's most famous,
arias. Ombra, my foo, never was shade so dear. Surely the greatest love song ever written to a tree.
Surely the greatest love song ever written to a tree.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Coleman Domingo is nominated for two Emmys this year—one for his role as Danny in the Netflix comedy *The Four Seasons* and another for his performance as Ali in the finale of *Euphoria*.
In *The Four Seasons*, Domingo portrays a witty, self-aware man in his 50s wrestling with marital and fatherhood questions, a role that showcases his comedic timing and emotional depth.
Domingo directed episodes of *The Four Seasons*, demonstrating his versatility and deep involvement in the creative process, including emotionally intense scenes where he directed actors while maintaining his own emotional presence.
In *Euphoria*, his portrayal of Ali—a man in long-term recovery and Rue’s sponsor—was inspired by real-life addiction recovery and received widespread acclaim for its authenticity and emotional resonance.
Domingo’s career spans theater, film, and television, with a strong foundation in regional theater, multiple awards including a Tony and Olivier nomination, and notable roles in films like *Rustin*, *Sing Sing*, and *Michael*.
He emphasizes his lifelong curiosity and commitment to learning, which has driven his evolution from actor to director and producer across genres.
Domingo reflects on his early career struggles, including years of exhausting auditions and feeling undervalued, which led him to reevaluate his approach and embrace self-respect and boundaries.
He views his current stage as a time of "truth-telling," where he prioritizes authenticity, self-care, and saying "no" with grace, marking a mature and intentional shift in his professional and personal life.
Summary:
Coleman Domingo, a multifaceted actor, playwright, and director, is nominated for two Emmy Awards this year—one for his comedic role as Danny in *The Four Seasons*, where he navigates marital and fatherhood dilemmas with sharp wit and emotional honesty, and another for his powerful performance as Ali in the final season of *Euphoria*, a role inspired by real addiction recovery and deeply rooted in emotional authenticity. His career began in regional theater, with acclaim on Broadway and in the West End, and has expanded to include significant film roles such as *Rustin*, *Sing Sing*, and *Michael*, where he portrayed Joe Jackson, a complex figure of demanding fatherhood and legacy. Domingo credits his success to lifelong curiosity, self-education, and a deep commitment to artistic integrity.
He reflects on the challenges of early Hollywood auditions, where he felt marginalized and exhausted, leading to a pivotal shift in which he prioritized self-worth and authenticity. Now in his 50s, he embraces a new phase of career and life—one marked by intentional boundaries, emotional presence, and a focus on truth-telling, valuing both personal well-being and creative depth over relentless output. His journey exemplifies a deep, evolving engagement with performance, storytelling, and self-empowerment across decades.
FAQs
He is nominated for his performances in the Netflix comedy 'The Four Seasons' as Danny and in the final season of HBO's 'Euphoria' as Ali.
Danny is a 50s man in a long-married relationship who is confronting whether he wants to become a father, facing tensions with his husband Claude over parenting and age.
He conducted deep research by studying classic late-night shows, including Jack Parr and Johnny Carson, to understand their styles and develop his own approach.
Ali is a man in long-term recovery who supports Rue, played by Zendaya, and the role is inspired by the real-life experiences of a former sponsor, highlighting the emotional toll of addiction.
Yes, he directed episodes of 'The Four Seasons' this season and last season, including the episode 'Ultimate Frisbee,' where he demonstrated emotional and directorial control while managing multiple aspects of production.
He drew from blue-collar men of his generation, including his stepfather, who were tough, hardworking, and believed in family and work ethic, to understand the complex nature of Joe Jackson’s character.
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