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Hey, what's up, guy? Hi, big help. What a game. What a game. What a game. What a game. What a game. What a game. What a day. What a day indeed. What a beautiful ball game. I lost my Ole Miss playing line bet. Drafts. Shucks. KC, we watched it the cave together. It turned out to be a fourth quarter classic, a wonderful game, an awesome finish. When you envision this playoff years ago, you envision nights like this one. It didn't start out like that, but that doesn't matter. I guess let's focus on the bigger picture of the kind of quality game we just watched. Well, first of all, watching the end of that game and everybody being on the same page in the cave. Again, and I know there's NFL fans that listen to this podcast too, but the way that feels is just so college football, like all of us are rooting for different teams throughout the season and the way we're all standing there. But I mean, it coming down to Carson Beck scoring the final touchdown after how inaccurate he looked so many times during the game. He looks like shit most of that game. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think he gave us the full Carson Beck experience tonight. I think he gave us moments of brilliance. He gave us, he gave us big time touchdowns, big time throws, and then he gave us, what the fuck are you doing, dude? He gave us that. A couple balls that looked like they were stopped mid-air. Like they went just like in slow motion, just like, we had a couple of, uh, Liam said it at one point. Yeah, a couple of duckfarts. There's no other way, but T-Bab, uh, yeah, the bigger picture where in the hot air balloon looking down on that game, what sticks out. Uh, I mean, the overall quality of the game, dude. And again, like you said, one of the biggest disconnects that have maybe ever seen between a box score and the actual final score of the game, cause make no mistake. Uh, Miami did dominate, but this is, this is a credit to Ole Miss to, to, to even be able to wither the, cause look, I, when you have a great game like this from two great teams, I cannot escape boxing analogies, right? And Miami comes out there and they're just fucking pepper and Ole Miss with combinations. I mean, body shots, a fish, and then Ole Miss lives a heymaker. Then Miami does like, but for Ole Miss to withstand, stop, stop. Is the audio bad? Is my mic fucked? No, no, it's fixed. No, you're good. You're good. It was hot at the beginning. It's fixed out. Everybody's telling me my mic is fine. No, no, no, no. And I don't want to do a show unless we, we stop and do it. No, no, I think there. Everybody thinks it sounds good in this room. It sounds good now. It was bad at the beginning. It sounds good now. T-5, I'm sorry to, uh, interrupt you. Go ahead. Okay, I was probably f***ing rambling. But no, no, no, no, it is, it is, it was the rhythm of the game, the fight, the moment. I mean, if you didn't have a rooting interest, which I fucking hate Ole Miss, to make them say, I wouldn't Miami to win, but I wouldn't like cared too much when I was like, what a special game we were just treated to. And I'm impressed with Ole Miss' toughness, despite the fact that they ate about 18,000 bodybows from Miami. Like, I definitely thought Miami was going to be able to pull away there because of the nature of the game. And certainly, Miami made a lot of mistakes, but I'm more impressed with this Miami team, man. And the story of Miami is so clear now in that this is not the team that we saw beat Notre Dame. This is not the team that lost two games in the middle of the season. They did not know themselves. They know themselves now. And what they are is a true smash mouth motherf***ing football road grader team. They're going to beat you on the line to scrimmage, and that's how they're going to win the game. And I believe they are a spot on 50/50 foe with either Oregon or Indiana with the form that they are in right now, especially with what I just saw to Carson Beck. And it's $4 million drive, guys. That's a $4 million drive. That's how you justify that paycheck. I couldn't disagree more with some of those points. And I'm going to say I'm going to tee up big F. I don't know if I'm going to put thoughts in his head or words in his mouth. But I bet. I just bet Ohio State fans watch that game tonight saying, boy, I wish this was the Miami we got to play. I wish this Miami that is dropping four, four, four interceptions. This Miami that is every time they get something good happen, they commit a penalty, they're dropping balls. Carson Beck has a tipped interception like Miami made mistake after a mistake after a mistake after a mistake. Miami should have won this game by three touchdowns. They almost lost. I get to the Miami's quality and I'm in a big happens Ohio State fan. You had to be looking like what the fuck? No 100% the thing that I was going to say was I obviously grew a team on terms of the domination in the line of scrimmage. I think the part I disagreed with is that I don't know if Miami's office equating or does know themselves. I don't think he knows the team very well because the way they just kept dropping back and throwing the ball. I was like, what are they doing? Like you're getting six yards a clip on the rock like what when he's when they when I right before he cars you back through that pick they got bad on his scrimmage. I took it. I was like, if Miami doesn't throw another pass again, they're going to win this game. A medium pick. They dominated the football game like they should have won by they should have won at least by 17 points and it's it's not to take away from how good Miami is. It's more like I it's their it's felt like they were holding themselves back through some of the plate calling like if they just pound the football and it might even be vanilla. But that's what your football team is and even towards the end like I think they were struggling in the second half defensively. They had a ton of injuries. Obviously the secondary gap or that was a big problem. But also just kind of a captain to Trinidad too because I think you can really tell how good a quarterback is or how well he's playing by the fear he instills new on the other side. I mean they have to be made about 20 seconds left. I was thinking about the score like when they got to 35 I was like he's about to throw a touch now right now. They're going to win this game. And I think that's credit just how how dominant he's been and how many plays he's made. But I mean, Miami's legit. I just think they need to stay out of their own way. They can beat anybody like they have the talent and they have the like the line of scrims on both sides of all they have what it takes. I just think they were holding took themselves back so much and Carson Beck is a fine player and that absolutely was a $4 million drive at the end. But I also like at a certain point you have to protect him from himself and he's throwing ducts on these deep balls like he's like I don't know they just the play calling by the OC was was holding on to the ball forever. There were times where he was just like refused to let it go and he was like come on Carson like we're seeing it. We're couch quarterbacking it but I agree with you. I completely I think that I think I agree with I guess I agree that Miami made a lot of mistakes that let them back in this game like throwing the ball before half which resulted in the sack which allowed the three point kind of count for Ole Miss to end up with three points. What are the other ones that I've written down here? Back throwing the pick. Miami dropping on the easy picks miss you like there were mistakes. I don't know about play calling though because I mean it's it's 51 runs to 37 passes by the time it's all said and done and that's where the vast majority of the final drive by nature of being a final drive having to be through the air so like they I don't know I don't know. I again I just I yeah I thought I thought Miami was faith like with when the defense wasn't as hurt when they were fully dialed that felt like a true through national championship level team. Blutman I just want to point out one more take on that one more little thing for now he's tweeted I believe but after back through that pick and Miami was up for at the time they were going to go up 11 if I score touchdown and back through a pick it was a 13 play drive. 11 runs and two passes. One was incomplete. One was an interception to stop the drive. Like that's what they were fucking around with when they were so dominant. Anyway, Bloodman, I haven't allowed you to give your your your elevator pitch on this game and just the overall 2000 foot view on it. Yeah, I mean with I agree with Evtune. How's that Mike? That one's a little low. Yeah, you want me to talk louder like this? Does that work? That sounds better. Uh, yeah, I think I agree with Evtune extent that I think I highly say in Georgia fans about watch that game and the programs, the teams, the players coaches absolutely kicking themselves that they weren't there in that spot. It's not to say that was a phenomenal college football game that was super entertained from start to finish. There were highs, there were lows, there were great plays, great mistakes. That was a true college football game. I'm so glad that we got to witness that. Um, uh, I think Olmista's superb job of just getting rid of the ball quickly and the gating Miami's past rush in that fashion. Uh, I think Miami was able to overcome and persevere again that they lose more often than not or that they you get where I'm getting T Bob that Miami. It was a classic Christian frog that felt like a classic Christ the fraud game where they make countless mistakes. There was a potential for a clock management disaster. Uh, there was just idiotic penalties at times and left guard or sorry, right guard left tackle were making constant constant mistakes. The left tackles fee looked like they were stuck like they were glued into the sod father's grass. That was a game that I feel like Miami, who had been building so much momentum and playing such consistent great elite national championship caliber winning ball where they fall flat and they lose and they're able to overcome that. I think that that is a testament to Mario Chris of all in this program and this, the staff, these players that they're able to overcome that and win this game. Uh, Carson Beck, I think was a, I just don't understand how Ohio State really stood there and let him pick them apart underneath on consistent basis a week and a half ago. It doesn't make any sense me why they weren't lying, why they why they said we're afraid of Carson Beck, taking us up over the top doesn't make any sense to me. No, that's yeah. Could I mean, that's the change that they made, right? Is that like they said in the broadcast? They stopped trying to attack as much. They start throwing, they start running them all and that's how they found themselves. All right. Do it. Hi, Roughnecks will be right back after this word from our sponsor. 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I think what this came down to and congratulations to Miami who will play for their first national in their first national championship game since 2002 trying to win their first national championship since 2001. They will play either Indiana Oregon. We previewed that in our last show. So we're just going to focus tonight on Miami and Ole Miss to me. That game came down to dudes. And Miami's got a bunch of them. We're going to take them one by one and it's kind of talk about those dudes. But like turn to that chamois is dude on the other side key one lacy's a dude, but he got hurt halfway through and just wasn't the same. So they were kind of doodless there. They had a couple of nice catches. Perkins is a dude, I would say, huh? Who? St. Aaron. Perkins amazing. The old Perkins was awful tonight. Oh, okay. Listen, I think Perkins is a solid player, but I don't think he's a Rubin and Bane type player. I don't. I think they got some decent players on the on the defense. I think tonight it finally came on to ruse that that defense just when it came down to it wasn't nearly as elite as anybody else's defense in the college for both layoff. And I think we should really take our hat off to Trinidad, Chamois for putting on his Superman cape there in the fourth quarter and making that game what it became. That being said, I don't want to focus negatively on the fact that Ole Miss lost and their magical run is over. I want to focus on the dudes Miami has because they fucked around. They fiddle fired around. They made a mistake. I have a mistake. But ultimately they got Malachi Tony. He's so they got they got dudes to make in place like Malachi Tony making plays Fletcher and the other running back was great tonight. Brown Brown. He was great. And then Carson Beck for all his faults for all his faults when it did matter the most tonight. The motherfucker was a dude. And we've known he's he's got dude in him. It's just sometimes doofus comes out. It's dude versus doofus. It's juggle and hide. But it's dude versus doofus. Sometimes it's doofus. Sometimes it's dude and big F. Well, Casey, I'll start for you. Fourth quarter they had a couple chances to to tuck tail and run. And Carson Beck was a dude both times. Well, and that's what you know going into the season. I know you and I were on the same page with him. It was like, we know that this guy can be a dude. And at Georgia, it just didn't work out. He got injured, you know, for whatever reason it didn't fit. But like, you know how talented he can be. And then, you know, it's beating a dead horse at this point because they're going to play for the national title. But the biggest thing in the two games they lost in the regular season was when he was a dude. He had six turnovers in those two games. You can't play like that. And when football games and the fact that he did, you know, put the game away at the end, but I you have to go back to Malachi Tony because that touchdown run that he had, nobody even got a hand on him. He should have been, he should have been tackled, you know, right after the first downline, he somehow made it all the way to the end zone without even getting fucking touched Brandon. He's an unbelievable football player, uh, T. Bob, uh, when they needed the most, uh, Malachi Tony and Carson Beck kind of, I talked about Superman capes with, uh, listen, the last play, the last play for Carson Beck. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a third and goal or second goal. Second goal, second, second, go from the three. I believe they, they started with first and go from the six or seven. They ran with Brown, got about half of it. You think, hey, maybe they're going to go ahead and they got two timeouts left or, or they got one time out left, whatever they got. And they're about to run the ball, uh, maybe again, but they dropped back to pass. He scans the field. He did miss Tony a little bit. Uh, but he makes the play. He escapes out the backside, scores a touchdown, walks the scores and runs right to the Miami band of the cheerleaders. And he's got that smile on his face. Um, T. Bob. Yeah. Dude did it. Yeah. Look, and, and, and again, I've retired the name Christopher. I said after last week, um, Carson Beck's another guy that is forcing me to double up on my helpings of crow because I have doubted him, uh, at every turn probably for the last 18 or 24 months. And again, I love when a guy approves, uh, the people on the outside who are just watching, you know, I like when the man in the arena proves us wrong. And here's what I want to highlight about Beck is that it takes a, uh, like, when you were talking about trying to find quarterbacking and tangibles in somebody that you're going to trust, what do you do when everything's on the line? And, and, and what I like for Beck's performance, what he can always carry with him for the rest of his life is throughout these playoffs, he has been very composed and very mature throughout the game. We've, we've seen him, uh, avoid mistakes for the most part at all costs. Obviously the bad of ball tonight, but he also has used his legs a ton more in this playoff, right? Be very cognizant of the setting. I'm gonna have to get more involved physically or put my body on the line a bit more here. And then when he had to turn it on, when it had to happen and the team needed him to go win the game to be able to turn that on and do that in the final drive, when as Casey pointed out, like, at certain times just gave me felt a bit hapless. Um, I just couldn't be more impressed. And it's the mixture of the two, like I said, it's the mixture of the composure and the maturity that we've seen in every game and throughout this game. But then the takeover ability on that final drive to not be night like those are the margins. That's how you become a college football immortal that your fans talk about the rest of the life. Those are the moments that make you remembered forever. And as a reference, it sounds really dumb, but it kind of justifies the entire price tag. I mean, that's the moment that you pay the $4 million for that drive right there. I don't think it sounds dumb at all. I think you're absolutely correct with that. Um, big of Malachi Tony, you want to you want to rant about him a little bit? No, I mean, he's special. Like, I mean, even honestly, the thing that stood out to me on the last drive was obviously kind of the highlight will be like back running in the touchdown. But it was the two place before that they get in a third and long. And the whole defense is on Malachi Tony, like they got double, they got three, they're trying to bracket them, double them. And back to steps up and just rips that ball over the middle and picks up the first down to me, that was the game. Like that was like team out there with the four minute drive, like that was the four million dollar throw. And some of throw this like wow, you're still you've seen better throws in the game like shambles made better plays, but just in a, like, do you want to say the big time going a big spot? You're still hoping just rip a perfect ball up the middle, pick up the third and long and win the game outright. So they're going O T, if they go to O T, I think that's scared for Miami. Yeah, I mean, they were moving the ball up and down the field on this was my amy's got all the defenders hurt Mezno was hurt the secondary was hurt like I think they needed to score there I think OT would have been bad news for Miami and just makes it even that much more clutch that they delivered in that spot Well, I mean to your point of and I know Brandon mentioned it too It's like they were the way that he was driving down with like 30 seconds left in the game I mean, thank God they made the extra point because they were in field will range within one play I mean Trinidad was doing whatever he wanted down that loss Just really quick and for everybody at home that's paying attention And I know that that Brandon and Liam are on par with this are they're up to speed two of our touchdowns Hi roughnecks will be right back after this word from our sponsor Still blue coffees new can lattes are here crafted with a 100% Colombian coffee each can is a good source of protein and comes in two Smooth flavors espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream and whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pump Stell blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care Stell blue is more than just great coffee. It's about giving back I named the brand after my rescue dogs Stella who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations, so when you drink Stella blue You're not just fueling your day. You're saving a dog's life Try the new cans today taste the difference and make a difference all new Still blue coffee cans lattes now available at stellbucoffee.com or subscribe on Amazon for 10% off and now back to the episode Once again Brandon. I'm so sorry that you didn't hit your Ole Miss money line bet tonight You know, I really really sorry, you know, I keep joking about that and I did it was a It wasn't a non-significant amount of money. It was I did pay I listen. I'll pay I'd pay it again. I know you would pay it. You know, I could have just paid like a hundred bucks for it But I was like fuck it. No, I want this thing. Well, cuz it is like if you're gonna spend money on Ole Miss and spend a significant amount of money And then when you want it to be something you can celebrate. Yeah, I It was enough that I would have been like Pretty good, but anyway, it doesn't matter. It doesn't you know Mario crystal ball gigantic victory and Not just I don't think just tonight, but I think this three game stretch has been so transformative for Mario crystal ball and The perception around him because you know last year he went ten and two and barely missed the playoff and the perception was still Classic Miami. They're fucking up. They just you know, that's that's crystal ball. You it's never gonna get there ever since the Georgia Tech Misscue or a few years ago the late, you know, what y'all know what I'm talking about, but this year they they have a good team They beat Notre Dame start the season they end up losing two games in retrospect to teams. They should have handled But they they got to the playoff and once they got to the playoff, it wasn't hey, we're happy to be there. It was hey guys We are fucking good. We got the talent. We got the we got the minute front We got the guys. Let's fucking do it and they go to they go on the road to a&m and they do it in a nasty Ugly dirty game they go Beato, Ohio State defending national champs and tonight they take out a team who's got a little bit of magic to him and has got that He's got the quarterback Mario crystal ball just changed Everything about his career in three weeks. I want to ask Liam a question. Yeah, because we we've had the conversation Without the conversation on the show a few times. I'm on a high state last year kind of something that disconnects between what Cultivables always has been versus what it is now right like they were clearly the best team but in past systems They want it deserved to be a champion. You could kind of throw Miami in that same boat, but I got to be honest I I'm kind of loving this. I like how this new system is allowing These teams like who's gonna put it together and and and become pressive become most impressive when the pressure is the highest and that's exactly what this Miami team has done Yeah, I think to answer your question. I still would like it to be a but like I'm not gonna be the Grinch for this like yeah, I'm thoroughly enjoying this playoff and Seeing Miami and Crystal overcome all their demons is pretty satisfying to see. Yeah, and it's a terrific storyline I will at the end of the day still put my head on my pillow and think You know like I still I still want losses in the regular season to matter and if you lose two games in a regular season I I don't think you should be playing for the right to be a national champion I just kind of think that's that's on you and you need to take care of your business in the regular season and that's just kind of my mantra and what I believe but Like yeah, this has been terrific run. I look forward to seeing if they could win it all in their home I wonder if it's gonna be a half-empty hard rock like usual. That'd be hilarious But yeah, I mean Miami they got everyone though. They got a puncher's chance against Indiana organ We'll see how it goes and again just excited see and blessed to see Malachi Tony play one more game football this season I know that catch didn't count. It should have counted. It's a catch shades of puka. Yeah, shades exactly Who's unbelievable? Blocking so good too. We never get crap for it because it's the lower sea risk blocking so good dude. He's so willing and engaging Like football players like that don't grow on trees man. Did we shout out Keelan Marion at all? I mean seven catches one-fourteen one-todd like back. I know naked on the drag. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah At the end Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I know we missed him. I mean the pressure's there, but yeah Yeah, oh, let's see what I can't get enough of your tweets. Oh, I'm working on it I yeah, I it's tough doing this live show and also having to rip off the bangers side to that rip off But you know, thank god been men's can go on vacation now. Yeah good for him is I he might get jail time for the night He had the the manning debacle and the bathroom and the sunflowers see but we're you have in front of them Big of y'all in the room with us. We're y'all able to see the rise of Tintel. Yes, I It is my belief that all of the youthful and energetic producers at barstall sports came together Included to juice Ohio State Tint sent out because every single one of them be at Ebo Liam whoever they were all Why it they were all tweeting it as if it was real and it was it was fantastic Well, we all found out about it because Jack McCarthy started like dying laughing and wouldn't tell anybody what it was And then he all he said was quigs and then said he's been sent out and we just knew like quig quigs is the mastermind behind us I knew somebody in house it was that's how good quigs is like you thought it was a team And by the way, I I saw that Tate tweeted this that he had only learned like the real Tate not Sintel Tate He learned about it because biz asks if it was true Yeah, ask if he heard men's talk to the guy with the the cancer Using all of the money for his it's true. Well if you think about it like you want to got all that all those donations without me What's what's another 500 Another funny thing that people that were watching the stream watched which you know and obviously like I wanted Brandon to be the happiest person of all time That's how much I love you But there was a part of me that really wanted to witness Michael Catech in a stadium full of Ole Miss fans I've never seen somebody go from not really knowing much about Ole Miss fans to hating them as much as he did Can I say something and I don't know if T-bob is is willing to go as far as I do in this space But I am a little glad that Ole Miss fans were able to go mainstream a little bit and you see who and what they are And I had so many people texting me tonight including one and I'm not gonna say Tate's name But I had I had a guy texting me tonight saying dude these are the worst fucking people I've ever met They're the worst and I am so glad people have gotten a glimpse just a little bit of success What they turn into the fact that they were flipping off and and and and turning around and doing that to Danny Boycane of all people to Danny Boycane You notice how quick is getting down there and say hey you shut the fuck up Oh, and then they they shaped up real quick when Dan told I never felt like I was in a mafia meeting more than when Dan told Yeah, so when he was like nobody touches Danny Boycane and all bizro back was got it And then the next the next thing you know business standing there and I asked this during halftime I was like do you guys think that like those kids like know that biz could literally take an entire section of them by himself and like maybe take a shirt off one time and they were and PFT goes Oh, yeah, you could tell that as soon as they saw him they knew exactly who the fuck. Yeah Um, all right, I'm just gonna ask a question. Hi Roughnecks will be right back after this word from our sponsor Hey Kirk Herbstreet here when Hertz said they needed a football analyst I assume they wanted my help terms out. They wanted Peter my dog. I didn't even think Peter new ball Well technically he knows that ball now Peter's part of the Hertz gold squad And we'll be making weekly picks throughout the college football season So whether you're coming to the stadium to cheer on Peter's picks or kicking off your own road trip book direct at Hertz dot Come slash Peter and now back to the episode, I got two things to observations that aren't really about this game. They're kind about this game. Well, the first one is Miami won the game. They're playing for a national title. We've seen them be almost perfect against Ohio State. We saw them win in a struggle tonight. Well, that's not really right. They put together enough to win. They played well when they weren't making mistakes. It was a weird thing. They overcame their demons. They played very well and also made so many mistakes that negated so much playing well. I know what he was talking about. Like when they weren't making mistakes, they were great. Yeah, this sounds exactly like the crystal ball era. Miami. But, but I'm going to ask a question. I'm going to go at every one of you and I'm going to start with big F. Can either of these teams tonight beat either of those teams that are playing tomorrow. I think Miami could beat Oregon. Okay. Okay. I don't know. I don't think they could beat Indiana. I think Indiana is too clean. It's kind of like I think they're too crisp. Like they're Miami will just make a mistake that I think Indiana won't make. But I think they could beat Oregon. I really I definitely do. I think they absolutely could beat Oregon. Oregon can make enough mistakes. And they're deep. They can get you into a rock fight. Like. Yeah. Like I mean, you saw you saw the Texas Tech game. Like they as much as they died. That's game should have been 50 to nothing. It was 23 to nothing. I mean, they left a bunch of points in the board. I think they're organs not always the cleanest team. So I definitely think Miami could beat Oregon. Um, Steve, you've nodded your head. Yes, they can. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think definitely on the Oregon front. Well, I should say a bit of this is contingent on health, right? Did miss it or break his arm? Yeah, true. When he looked like he might have broken his forearm. Like that could be enough to maybe shift my thinking, but if we're assuming health, then, um, yeah, no, I think Miami specifically is a good matchup for Indiana, because them and Oregon are some of the only teams in the country that I believe can consistently hang in the trenches with them. Now I do think Indiana's offensive threat and offensive line is superior to that of Ole Miss and Miami's going to have to play better to like they will not shut them down in the in the same way from like a time possession man or whatnot. But yes, what I saw to Miami tonight, I think they're definitely good enough to me to Oregon. And, um, and while I would still favor Indiana, uh, it'd be like a 55, 45% in my mind. Like I think these two teams are very well positioned to match up with one another. I disagreed and I still do with Blutman vehemently tonight. Um, I am. I am a defensive line, Rubin Bain. They're going to have show up a hell of a lot better than they did tonight. Ole Miss, I think they have one sack. Ole Miss, uh, absolutely. Now it was what the hell was the big 10 officials who just refused to call holds on, uh, on tackles tonight. Yeah. They were kind of like it, but it was egregious a couple of times. They were just, Rubin Bain was getting hog tied a couple of times. Uh, but you say it's because Ole Miss got the ball out quickly. I say there were plenty of passes where Ole Miss let the play develop through 30 yards down in the field. Um, Miami's got a, Miami's defensive line has to be better than they were tonight if they're going to beat Indiana or Oregon. That's what I think. I really wish that I timed snap to throw all game for Ole Miss. Ole Miss had several throws down. I just, I started timing snap to throw in the fourth core and there were a few where it's like 1.8 seconds, 2.2 seconds. They're getting big shot in place. Like they're getting rid of the ball very quickly to negate the deathly Miami pass rush and like Miami could be either Oregon or Indiana. I think both Indiana and Oregon are able to do the same thing against Miami, though, to limit their pass rush, limit the fear of Bain and Mesador. Sans, potential broken arm where they just get rid of the ball quickly in the passing game and they get big chunk of plays. Yeah. You might be right. And then defensively, I think both of them could contain the run for the most part. I like, gone to my head, man. I don't trust Carson back being able to move the ball consistently through the air against those defences. Well, no, yeah. No, I, I, I would say that about Carson back, but then again, like I, you know, you have to eat your words to a certain degree because the way you played tonight, the thing is is and it's the same, the same narrative we've been talking about the entire podcast. They cannot make the mistakes at the amount that they did tonight against Indiana or Oregon because those teams will, they'll capitalize on it. Especially not Indiana. Right. Like, I mean, the, the, the dropped interceptors for dropped intercept. I've, I've, hold on. I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen. Anything like it. And two of them, the last two, the ball, they weren't even, they wouldn't drop passes. They dropped, they dropped tips that were given to them. That last one, like, like, big if I walked into your apartment right now, walked to your couch and I, and I dropped this right into your lap and it fell to your feet. That's what they did. I'd never seen. I was convinced they were throwing the fucking game. I was catching it. That last one, like, and again, it's, you know, the, the armchair quarterback, you know, like, all the, the idiots on the couch saying that they could play there. No, that last one, all of us, like, we could have all caught that. I'm like, I'm a, I'm a girl and I could have caught that. Okay. But just like the mistakes that they made just the penalties, just everything, like, they will not be able to make those same mistakes and beat either Indiana or Oregon. Now, if they clean it up and they can, even if they don't drop two interceptions, like, maybe they can definitely hang in, but it's the same thing I said going into this game. I just can't, I can't discredit Miami anymore because I tried to discredit them when they play at AM. I was wrong. I tried to discredit them when they played Ohio State. I was wrong. So I wasn't going to do that tonight. But Indiana is just so perfect across the board. It's hard. It's hard to see anybody beating them. Okay. Now I have to have another conversation. Big Ab and Bloodman, you guys are going to take the back seat and me and KC and T. Bob are going to talk real quick. We just got to talk to each other. The SEC is dead as far as the top, top, top, top, the unquestioned top of the sporting more. The big 10 is now the preeminent power conference. The SEC, the last team standing for the SEC wasn't even all that good. Georgia lost last week. Alabama just got embarrassed. There's not an SEC team probably. There's three teams better than the best SEC team at least. And there might be a couple more, but the SEC's run ended a while ago because this is the third straight year. There will not be an SEC team, but maybe getting five playoff teams was a bit much. And the SEC has a little bit of work to do to get back to where it thinks it should be every single year, KC. 100% is the SEC bias has to stop whether if you think that's real or not wildly overrated this year. Ev, I know you're not technically supposed to be listening to this part of the conversation, but I will say Brandon remember when Ev was trying to tell us that all year and we would fight back. And it's normal to fight back when your team is playing in that conference, especially for myself because we were undefeated. The SEC was asked in comparison to the big 10 this year. See my thoughts. Yeah. Look, I don't know. I've been, I've been ringing my hands in anger for years now saying that the gap between the SEC and the rest of the country wasn't like what everybody makes it out to be. Now granted, I still thought the SEC was maybe slightly better or slightly underneath the big 10. So I'm still surprised by how far the big 10 has pulled ahead. But yeah, this has been my entire problem with the subjectivity of the sport. Is that is that we sit there and we say, well, we know this to be true. And and we just get proved wrong on the field. And then a lot of guys just want to double down on it. But I mean, we even saw it last bowl season. He's had like that right to the exact same thing again this year. So I don't know, maybe it'll, uh, maybe it'll change. But I don't care. Good. Fuck it. I want change. Two, one regime change. I want something new. And how much of the SEC dominance was just the Nick Sabin knock on effect with Alabama normally winning. And I mean, then it's such an unbelievable high level that everybody trying to keep up with the Joneses and and before it have been democratized to portal and NIL and whatnot. Like Sabin created this almost insanely competitive follow culture in the Southeast. And now instead of the Georgia's and and Alabama's is hoarding everybody. They're now spread out and diffusing throughout the entire country. And all of college football is better for it. The emperor had to die to cause chaos. Wait. Let me have that take. Let me play with it. You give me that take. Take it here. Yeah. So what you're saying is the SEC's rise to dominance was actually built on the rise of Alabama and the SEC's arms race to keep up with them. And naturally everybody rose up with them and and and participated in that dominance with them. Okay. Which means when Nick Sabin retired and they went and hired a soft ass West Coast coach to come into Alabama, the reason the SEC has fallen off over the last two and three years, it's Alabama's fucking fault. Yeah. It's all of them. So fuck you Alabama. Yeah. You did this. He's the shit. It would also maybe have to do with the fact that although Nick Sabin would never admitted and you know, so on and so forth, everyone else can pay players. Yep. Alabama Georgia's advantage is gone. Yeah. So when it became like a legalized paying system, and they didn't have to hide things and you know, say McDonald's bags or whatever, everybody was on the even playing field. All right. Big F. I see. I'm I'm willingly ignoring you. There's a TV even though right now I'm looking away from you, but I can feel your your bet fucking face smiling at me. Is he smiling? Is he smiling? Oh, when I when I gave him the credit that he, I don't think he could hear because you know, it's just a safe space between you, me and T-bub. He was also smiling. All right. Go ahead. Hi, Roughnecks. We'll be right back after this word from our sponsor. Hey, Kirk Herch Street here. During the college football season, my golden retriever Peter and I are constantly on the road. Yep, Peter Doe's ball. When you travel this much, you want the gold standard. That's why Peter and I partnered with Hertz. They've got a brand new fleet of rental cars, a great app, and the best loyalty perks in the biz. So if you're traveling to cheer on your favorite college team, or kicking off a different road trip, book direct at Hertz.com/Peter. You know what I mean? Listen, I tried to say it all year. I was wrong about a lot of things. I was dead right about this. I just, and going off the, the save and bam, a thing. It's just where did the defense go in the SEC? Because that to me was the glaring thing all year. And you saw throughout the playoff and all that like, there was no dominant defense in the SEC. And any team that had to get offense, their defense was like mediocre at best. So even like, even Georgia, the defense they had this year was appalling compared to the ones they've had over the last like five or so years. And yeah, I mean, Oklahoma probably had the most consistent defense. Even them like, they got, they got bludgeoned in some spots. I just wonder if finally like going into this next season, if the, the poll voters and all this, if they'll catch on finally, if we'll just stop like randomly throwing like Mizzou and Tennessee and God knows whoever like in the back half of the top 25 for no other reason than that they're in SEC team. Like I'm wondering when will that finally end where they just get the benefit of the doubt and teams get to go the like a Tennessee and Mizzou. I'm using them as an example because there were the teams that didn't beat anybody all year and they were sort of ranked like 90% of the year. Like when will we stop just giving all these teams the credit and then also lifting up the other mediocre teams that are even above them in the SEC and say, look, they beat Tennessee. They beat Mizzou and everyone's sitting there like, that's the same thing is beating like fucking Rutgers. Yeah, it's not like it's if you beat Northwestern. Like it's not like it's no different. But mentally like the cultural world has just been like beaten over the head with SEC propaganda for two decades straight. So they can't even process that like those teams are basically the same. They're not that different. But mentally we view them as different because of the propaganda. But on the field, they're pretty similar. And I'm wondering when we'll finally start to catch on to that and not get so lost in like name brand SEC teams and just just look at ball, man. I think put the ball line, put the spot the ball. Let's play. It has to have the right. I think right now you're right that the left over propaganda is carrying a lot of brand names in the SEC. However, much of that two decade run the propaganda was reality. And I think when the propaganda is reality like from 2006 all the way up into like 2021, 2022, it was such reality that it's still it probably takes three, four, five years of failure at the top of this league to realize, oh, fuck. You know, because the first year that the SEC team played for it, Alabama lost to that Michigan team and overtime. You know, last year SEC team didn't play for it. Now this year, the last SEC team standing just wasn't even all that good. And that's what was troubling to me because that Georgia team we saw last week just didn't feel all that good. The Alabama team wasn't all that good. And now I think three, four years into this thing, it's perception will catch up to the new reality of the SEC. And I feel like it has to at this point. Well, let me do. Yes, PN's got a vested interest, which does make this kind of interesting. Yeah, this is fun. And it's only the talk about this fun. Yeah, yeah, I got it right here. 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If you want to get a final take off about tonight or if you want to, this will be a little freestyle. You can talk about tomorrow's game. You can talk about tonight. You can talk about whatever you want. I'll save mine till the end. Casey go. No, I'm just going to put another bow on the fact that Carson Beck, like this, you talk about narratives going into the playoff and looking at these final four teams. We talked so much about Ole Miss and without Lane and all this, but like the Carson Beck story with him going into Georgia and like, oh my god, he's going to win them another national title and then having to leave Georgia and getting paid all that money and just everything going into this. Like Carson Beck, albeit not perfect and sometimes very ugly, like he should get all the credit in the world. And like, you know that in his head, like everything he did going into Miami and all the things that he said about, you know how he wanted to prove the haters and the doubters wrong. Like, regardless of what happens in the national championship, that to me, like, they've been proven wrong. And let's he just throws six interceptions. But I think that Carson Beck deserves all the credit in the world. And as somebody who believed in him, then stopped believing in him, I'm fully back in. Oh, big of your final take. I just want to say this because no one's brought it up. Last play, we can't even know what's passed in the France. We can't call that, right? You can't call that. No. That's how I feel. I was getting, I was getting shit for it. I understand, like, people will say, oh, like, you got to call it the same way no matter what stage of the game it is. You just can't call that there. You just can't. It was passed in the France, but you just can't call it reality. Reality. The in zone in a Hail Mary is every man for his fucking self. Yeah. And it was often tested though that as well, the offense can be just as physical. You know what I'm saying? Like, they, you have to dare the, the referees to throw a flag for both sides of the ball. What's the game in the pool when you were a kid, you know, and like one person had a football and like, everybody was, you know, however many yards away and you threw it up and like, you all tried to catch it 500 500. That's what we call it. Like that, like, that is exactly what is actually happening on those plays. Yeah. Like, everybody can just push each other and jump up and try to catch the ball in my opinion. Um, T-Bop, final thoughts. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think with my final time, I just want to continue to celebrate this wonderfully smash mouth Miami football team in a day and age where we've seen a lot of finesse football take over in a day and age where, you know, the sport is so vastly different from things that we recognize we grew up with and guys are transferring all the place and money's being paid and many ways it can be very new and upsetting to some, but how does Miami team place football is so wonderfully old school and recognizable and physically inspiring. I mean, just winning on the lines of scrimmage, fletch or running people over, consistent. I love the run game. The run grain again, it's like a great box or just stack and body shots and by the fourth quarter, you watch the person's will break. They just don't want it anymore credit. Don't miss. They held on the barrage, but still I love watching this Miami team play football. And then I love hearing stories about how they have the most physical practices in the entire country. Then multiple, we will tell us that on web. And so shout out to Miami and crystal ball for going old school, going physical and an age of finesse and softness and finding their way to a national championship for the first time in 20 years. Liam, your final word? I love Mario, Chris, the ball saying, you know, I'm going to go watch the film. We should have scored 10 more points. I think that was a phenomenal answer right after clinching national championship birth. It's a true ball lover, ball, noir answer, love that final thoughts. ESPN didn't show near enough bend mints. They didn't show near enough Michael Irvin, not sure what's going on there. Those are two seismic misses, understand your audience, KYP, know your personnel. And you know, I really truthfully did not care who won tonight. I just wanted to watch a really good football game. And I'd be lying if I said a little bit of me wasn't a little sad, Ole Miss, then Paul from Miracle for the sole reason. I kind of want to see Ben Minson, Michael K, they could tear it up in Miami. A little part of me wanted to see it so bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The midfielder almost did it. The drop makes and everything. I was fine with the free ride into tonight. Yeah, but you're bet. Anyway, this is real for your bet. Yeah, I got one more ad and then I'm going to do my final fault. As Mincey cried on camera yet. I hope so. The new year is here. Get back into it and that Oh no. Hi, Roughnecks. We'll be right back after this word from our sponsor football seasons here and whether you're grinding your way through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. The Chevy Silverado. There's a reason Chevy is called the heartbeat of America and Silverado keeps that heartbeat strong, whether you're towing, hauling, or tailgating. Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task. With best in class standard torque, the most functional bed and the advanced tech that's football guy approved. Check out offers on the 2026 Silverado at Chevy dot com. I'm gonna end tonight's show with some shout outs. I have about seven or eight of them. I want to shout out first. I want to shout out T-Bub A-Bair. T-Bub, it is 1123. T-Bub will be hosting a wake up bar stool tomorrow at 7 a.m. and he'll have to get in this car about four or 30 or five. So good for him. Watch him tomorrow from 7 to 9 central on a wake up bar stool. Shout out to also T-Bub. I'll be here because I'm sleeping on that couch tonight. Anyway, I'm sleeping on that couch. I've done that before. Shout out number two. Tate. Oh, yes, bar stool. Tate. He'll just snatch it. For the fact that the irony of this incredible wake up content is that it would not have happened because bed men usually just gets free vacations. It gets to go to all these games and he never documents any of it. He tweets once and his laziness is not capitalized on Tate and somebody saw an opportunity since somebody documented Tate did. He documented this idiot from pillar to post and it was incredible and magical and Tate, I think, was MVP this week. Lacey River tomorrow. Yeah. Shout out number three. Chris, the stage 4 cancer patient who saved his seat on the Southwest plane for for for midsy on Friday or Thursday, whenever he flew out. He saved a seat for him. Chris was going to Arizona for his cancer treatments. Big cat, everybody at bar stool. They fell in love with Chris immediately. Shirt went up for sale. I believe the last count. It was over 50,000 raised for Chris's cancer battle. His family is one year old daughter. He seems like an amazing person and a silly shout out to you, Chris. Bison Riggs. Bison Riggs opening their homes to those idiots and making magic. Danny Boycane along for the ride and just every single clip today, no matter if it was about him or not, he is in the background doing something hysterical. Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin who was duped into talking on camera by Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben's face times him and absolutely records it and Lane is like, why don't you record that? I was just doing you a favor. But Lane, shout out to you for doing your part. And just so the two of you know on the other side because I know everybody in the office, he's actually very angry. Yep. Very. And the last shout out and the most important and I do refrain. I don't like getting sentimental are serious on the show. Well, I'm going to do it right now. The last shout out. Do you know who's going to be? I have an idea. The last shout out goes to me, Brandon Walker, because I was stood hell over the last couple of weeks. I dodged a bullet. I told everybody in the world how shitty these Ole Miss fans were. I got this close and my God, I think I did a hell of a job getting all the way to a national semifinal with these arch rival pieces of shit. I think I did a hell of a job and I clapped for him and I applauded and I tipped my cap to him. But I survived the Lane Kiffin era. Lane Kiffin is gone. The team he built will be gone. The era is over and we're never going to be here again, T-Bob. And for that, thank God, shout out to me and shout out to you too, T-Bob, because they're not your arch arch arch rival like they are mine, but you don't like them either. I fucking hate him. And by the way, there's three guys are yelling that's that Brad and Chad. Yes. I mean, they're, they're fucking, it's the entire fan base. And you know what they are? Sand. There you go. Dr. Seuss. Hey, the facts, and I know, like they lost it's fine, but Dan said it. I know you said it early in the podcast. The world got to see how right you are, Brandon Walker, about Ole Miss fans, because the perfect Ole Miss fan embodied was the one talking shit to Danny Boycane. Yeah. Like it was just the exact person you would craft and just Katie wanted to beat their asses all night. No, I'm sorry, Brandon. You did forget one shout out. You forgot to shout out Corey, the driver. I did. Yeah, Corey did phenomenal job driving them all day. What are you doing? Are you on the phone right now? No, I'm text the speech. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got, I got to send this to fellas. Corey did the phenomenal job, job driving them all day. I don't know if Ole Miss even knows who Corey is still. Yeah. But this guy wakes up early to drive them around Scottsdale all day long. And Ben Mintz never said the word. All right. The, the, the less we say about that, the better tea box guy, dude, man, he's got, he's got it tomorrow. Oh, my God. Yeah, the truck, the truck bikini train, train got to the gambling cave tonight and we're all in bikinis. Hold it up to the camera again. I don't look right. Zoom in here. Who tweeted this? I need to find this. I'll send in the group text. This is also the one where, oh, I guess we're not, this is at one point, PFT, Katek, Brandon, Dan and I were all like touching each other. Holy that's not really bad. We're like holding hands. And now we're all doing it in bikinis. All right. Tea Bob, go to bed. Watch him tomorrow morning. The five of us will be back tomorrow night. Oregon, Indiana, hell of a night tonight. We got another one. College football. That is unnecessary roughness.