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This excerpt features a commentary review of the 1977 film "Planet of the Dinosaurs." The hosts highlight the film's unexpectedly high-quality stop-motion dinosaur animations, considering its low budget, noting that most funds likely went into these detailed and well-moving models. They humorously critique other aspects, such as the illogical character decisions, the use of stereotypical Californian filming locations due to Hollywood union expense rules, and dated technical choices like poorly executed day-for-night scenes. The conversation frequently diverges into paleontological discussions, comparing the film's depictions to real dinosaur science—touching on topics like predator feeding habits, the coexistence of species like Stegosaurus and Brontosaurus in the Morrison Formation, and anatomical features of dinosaurs such as Troodon. The hosts conclude by appreciating the film's earnest effort in its dinosaur sequences, despite its broader flaws, and direct listeners to their Patreon for the full episode.
We're eight and a half minutes in and someone's been eating. Terrible is its dinosaur bites. Bite-sized extracts from old bonus episodes and lives to keep you going. We review Planet of the Dinosaurs from 1977. This is just a short extract from the entire commentary we made, which you can look up on our Patreon. I can see a plan to the dinosaurs coming up and a broken risted off the dinosaurs. Yeah, it is. I've seen this thing once, maybe seven or eight years ago. This is a fairly famous bee movie. I first encountered this on the really famous Christopher Reeve, narrated or hosted PBS dinosaur series from the early 80s in the US, which was shown in the UK. I remember at the start of the first episode, there's a little montage of dinosaurs were really big in films and it shows you like some Harryhausen stuff and some like, you know, classic atrocious, proyme, clueless type stuff. And then it had a couple of eclipse and things I'd never seen before. I need to be a long time to see one of which was caveman, which stars Ringo star and the other bit is a clip from this. So there was the executive producer Steven circus. So circus is a name who at least a couple listeners may remember from the Scansori up to rigid's episode. Here's the person who got hold of the specimen of Scansori up to X and named it in his own journal with his wife with watching a spaceship now go to plan looks a lot like earth. There is your good old or do you know but all. Yeah, that's about as good as the non dinosaur effects get. Unfortunately, I thought when you said it initially that it would be plans of the dinosaurs 1977 a bit like Dracula AD 1972, but no, elacid is. So it's just the year it was made. Yeah, 70s people in space, but it is quite a good gender mix. I mean, racially that's pretty pale, but you know. So I did look this up on IMDB and discovered that it had one exactly one award, which is frankly one more than I thought it was going to, which is a satin award to one of the sci fi ones for best movie of under $1 million budget. I think most of the budget went on the perms and the rest of it, but it's. Well, they're all ruined now because they've been in the water. The entire budget for this movie was clearly spent on the dinosaurs and they're genuinely pretty good. Here we go. Oh, oh, you know, dinosaur well. Well, is it a dinosaur? Is it a mosa saw? Well, but please you saw, I guess we're eight and a half minutes in and someone's been eating. So this is the problem that you get with, you know, you're every draft the part of it. Yeah, it's an hour and a half of faffin around. It's like a KC dinosaur's. I'm guessing this was all shot in California because the alien planet looks suspiciously like every alien planet from Star Trek. Yeah, you know, the rock formations of Billy, the trees are familiar. If you, if you've watched, if you've read a lot of Calvin and Hobbs, it's those big Nevada, that sort of desity thing that you get those big stacks of rock tools everywhere. But this this popped up on Twitter the other day was having a conversation with someone I can't remember who, but there's a Tom Scott video about this because basically Hollywood Union rules. There's a 30 mile radius from Hollywood where if you shoot within that radius, it counts as like you're close enough to home that you basically don't get your expenses paid for travel and hotels and anything else. And there's, yeah, the famous cave that you see in every single thing ever is right, like within half a mile of that boundary. So of course, they always have to film that game and that same stack of rocks. But it's also shooting slight the animals, the animal noises that you hear. So I think there's a particular species of frog that you only ever hear in Hollywood. And it's only found in California pretty much really. It's like a standard frog noise that they always play. I also want to add that I've never seen Rem Reem ears and the sort of flares that this woman was wearing. Yeah, I want to see that episode because I think you can actually catch things with those flares. So right now they're waiting up a river despite the fact that a minute ago one of their party was killed in the water. But why else do they gain to walk? There's no pathways. You have to remember. Oh, yeah, I told you it was a bad idea. I do as the flares. I think the flares got her. I think she was eating by her own. Oh, yeah. Drata laser in the water. That's good. Good. Good. That our nice modern weaponry with our interstellar space travel, but they can't deal with water. Can't get wet. No. Well, why would you? But this thing, basically, that's how humans would have moved. They would have moved long coastlines and have moved long rivers. Of course, is the first thing to get washed away. So it's hardly any artifacts partly for that reason. The thing is you say there's no paths, but it's not like they've. They've looked and they started at the mouth. They started at the edge of a lake. Out of the way around the edge of the lake because there clearly was a beach, although around the edge of the edge of the lake. Well, that's because it was probably an old like quarry pit. I would say no, but. But in terms of again, not waiting up a river for the one place that you know you've been attacked by aquatic animals. Yeah. I may not be your best, you know, but then we know from your spider-saurus paper that the edge of the lake is possibly more dangerous than the center of the lake. So well, but you know, I'm trying to think of it from the character's perspective. They've encountered exactly one animal. I notice he's gotten his shirt on. I know it's pretty good, isn't it? So then now they're on a path. Quite a wide one. In fact, with absolutely no plants on it. Is that do you think we're a sauropods done a little role with their roles? You know, you don't expect some animals to rot like horses. You never expect to sort of see them lying in the fields with their feet in the air scratching their back. Yeah, John Conway, I want to say, did an illustration of a sauropod doing that like in a mud wallow. And it was something like not super giant, but something big like a combirosaurus, you know, proper six, seven, eight, ton, animal having a wriggle around. Yeah, I don't see why they necessarily couldn't. The way they seem to be constantly trying to strip the men. Have you noticed this in this film? Yes. Some day for night filming where they just cracked it down a bit. Yeah. So the white is still really, really bright, despite the fact that it's supposed to be at night. I like how my horror films. So this sort of thing's fine. And you can I mean the expense of the films. I mean, this is 77. So you don't have those wonderful codec films that allow you to film. Yeah. And I probably. Yeah. So I guess it is. For give us all. Oh, yeah, but it's it's very kind of 70s and 80s TV show where they, you know, they're doing it like the 80s. They're doing a bit of outside filming and they want it to be at night. And yeah, they've just done that. So we think which one the one that was the species of true don't it that was not not turned off. So it's so it's been said the original true not to true dawn is yet another as classic taxonomic messes. And that one keeps coming round and round and round again is his true dawn to himself was originally named off teeth, which in hindsight turned out not to be diagnostic. But then other material was referred to it. And is it truly that because there's any teeth yaddy yaddy. Regardless, there's a there are some North American skulls which may all may not be inverted. Come was true on the who cares mid size true adented. Which yeah already have very big eyes with true don's it's do. But also has these asymmetric ear canals, which is exactly what you see in owls. And then there was a paper last year year before relatively recently showing this is true of at least one alverso as well. So it was done by Jonas one year and can be toppled on their group down in the south. Like growled. So many growled. Yeah. Sorry. I mean, the children massage that man is getting is pretty much throughout the day throughout the night. Well, from his secretary. So his executive secretary. Exactly. I love these. They're like what kind of enormous animal did that massive roar? Well, let's just all sit still and not do anything. Rather than stand up, look around, get your legs. And they're all asleep in the middle of the bright sunshine. Good job. Someone was standing on guard for that dangerous animal they heard. I know. I mean, the thing is, if you're ever the rule is if you're ever on a desert island before you sought out water before you sought out. You know, fire. The thing you sought out first is shelter. Yeah. That's that we find food or anything else. Shelter is the most important thing. And it's like. It's like I didn't read books. I mean, yeah. I do like the man in blue though with his golf shoes on. It's very cool. Yeah. So now we're 17, 18 minutes in. So again, you know, less than 20 minutes. We're going to get a second dinosaur. Well, you say this, but so far we've only got blue furry man and his tracks. Which I quite well. Yes. I'm telling you. Hey, see like a lot. Hey, there we go. That's very good, isn't it? Look how close to it they are. They just snuck up by facing right onto it. It's a sore parts. I think that's a, a bronzer source in a classic sense. She goes for sources. Traditionally a bad source. They backed bronzer. But no, that head shape is the one that you always see illustrated for a, for an appadosaur around then. But yeah, it's, it's still a tail dragger, but the legs are properly upright. Flexing meck. Nice head. It was moving quite well. And this is partly why we wanted us to cover this film because. Yeah, the animals are pretty good. And yeah, they're still tailed. And this is 77. A mad hopping dinosaur. Yes, there's one footprints. No, there was a, there was a second one, but it was not only in front of the other one, but miles to the side. Oh, and there we go. And obviously it actually ripped apart. So, a pod, though, with some arm belongs. What's quite unrealistic.
to actually about that is they usually predators particularly pack hunters will go after the organs first and they enter the organs usually through the back. Yeah. So that's what wolves do they tend to eat things bum first. Oh almost everything does. Yeah. But yeah, so there's there's a giant atherapod tracks but they're really well spaced like it's walking with it's you know like it's found a straddle some it's got carrying something heavy between its legs it's a long long way apart. It might have been doing yoga that morning and feeling flexible. It's perfectly. I mean there's two girls talking about a berry we've passed the Beck del test that's not bad for 77. That's very good unless they're trying to feed a man or kill a man because Bella Donna is poison. No they don't think they were they're literally talking about the berries. Excellent. Bella Donna is what a lot of women used to die from because if you take a little bit of Bella Donna it makes your pupils really big and expensive and they're very beautiful so a lot of women were taking it and then if you take too much Bench-Bent-Chomp it you actually die. Take a source. They're pretty good. I think the same model it's the same model done three times. Yeah but even even that in itself is quite nice because the number of times you know you see things like this and it's one dying to throw at a time because obviously all this stop motion stuff is so incredibly expensive. So every extra model that you add and every extra shot that you add like dramatically increases the past. It is a testament just how much they actually cram into this. Did you notice everybody that he stole a stegosaurus and just stared off the topic just because he feed potty once he'd talk about stegosaurus and ears. But were they around at the same time as Bronsorce? Well yes they were so the Morrison formation from you know Midwest US which is okay spanned quite a few million years. Well yeah Andy D. D. D. D. D. are where they are. You know that's a whole host of classic at- end diplodocus. Bronsorce, a pasterstorous, brachiosaurus, stegosaurus, alosaurus, serratosaurus. All in those same beds together as well as a ton of other you know less well-known and smaller ones. So yeah it really is a lot of classic relevant animals. So as it inevitably of course the big bad guy in this I don't think I'm getting anything away it's going to be a T-Rex because of course you can't have a dinosaur film where the bad guy is T-Rex. I'm not sure they ever call it that and I've got- It was a really chunky alessor. Well it's well no so they do have do distinct two predators in this. So there is a big theraporter than a huge therapod. They managed to get a bit more out of it. Oh yeah so it's the stegosaurus again. Slightly weird curly plate on one side. He's got a beak which they don't always include. Oh and there you go and there's a T-Rex on the other side. Two thing good. Nice big square boxy head. Stegosaurus, they're very tail draggy. Very very scaly but big overlapping scales so more lizard-like than Crockerbar like. And again we can argue about the- Oh here we go, we're going to have a fight. You can argue about the accuracy of that but it's well made. It's a really nice model with tons of detail in it. Stegosaurus turning around flipping his tail out. They're really moving well. They're rather quick. That's a nice bit of animation. Yeah no the animation is excellent. I mean the stegosaurus is literally just standing there having its plate ripped off though that's turning out to be quite flexible now. It's being chewed on. Yeah. And yeah, it's a bit like that. But yeah you think the stegosaurus would go in and stick those spikes into them. They wouldn't forever mess each other up these two. No, there we go. Squish the head. Yeah so the stegosaurus's defense was pretty pathetic there but yeah. It could have been having a bad day. Like we say nice models moving well. And also look at this leg so Dave, that's very spaced apart. Well so he's bending down. Yeah. So maybe he was for your duck walk. Yeah but the stod's is pretty good. You know again, relatively upright that tail was dragging a bit but it's not entirely and it's very flicky. It's going around. You know again that animation they put a lot of effort into it and made it look good. We hope to enjoy that little bite. For more bonus episodes go to patreon.com/terriblelizards
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The hosts review the 1977 film "Planet of the Dinosaurs," praising its surprisingly good stop-motion dinosaur effects and animation for its time and budget.
They critique various film elements, including clichéd filming locations due to Hollywood union rules, inconsistent character logic, and dated production techniques like day-for-night filming.
The discussion includes paleontological tangents, comparing film depictions to real dinosaur science, such as the behavior of predators, the Morrison Formation fauna, and anatomical details of dinosaurs like Troodon and Stegosaurus.
The commentary is extracted from a longer Patreon bonus episode, encouraging listeners to seek the full version for more content.
Summary:
" The hosts highlight the film's unexpectedly high-quality stop-motion dinosaur animations, considering its low budget, noting that most funds likely went into these detailed and well-moving models. They humorously critique other aspects, such as the illogical character decisions, the use of stereotypical Californian filming locations due to Hollywood union expense rules, and dated technical choices like poorly executed day-for-night scenes. The conversation frequently diverges into paleontological discussions, comparing the film's depictions to real dinosaur science—touching on topics like predator feeding habits, the coexistence of species like Stegosaurus and Brontosaurus in the Morrison Formation, and anatomical features of dinosaurs such as Troodon.
The hosts conclude by appreciating the film's earnest effort in its dinosaur sequences, despite its broader flaws, and direct listeners to their Patreon for the full episode.
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The episode is a review and commentary on the 1977 film 'Planet of the Dinosaurs,' featuring bite-sized extracts from bonus content.
The full commentary is available on the podcast's Patreon page at patreon.com/terriblelizards.
The dinosaur effects are praised as genuinely pretty good, with well-made models and excellent stop-motion animation for its time.
It won a Saturn Award for best movie with a budget under $1 million, which was more than the hosts expected.
Due to Hollywood union rules, filming within a 30-mile radius of Hollywood reduces expenses, leading to repeated use of nearby caves and rock formations.
The hosts note inaccuracies, such as predators not typically attacking organs first, and debate realistic movements like sauropods rolling on their backs.
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