"Coach Kelly" (w/ Kelly Clarkson)

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Soccer, just don't tell my coaches I said that. Listen to "Big Kick Energy" on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, everybody, it's me, Matt, and my tour is on sale now. This time, it's really Christmas. You can go to www.MattRodgersOfficial.com, podcast or a visual medium. If you're not watching me right now, I am holding in my hands my vinyl. It's called "Have You Heard Of Christmas?" The answer to that question is coming. At this time, it's really Christmas. I'm playing all over the country, and in London, and in Canada. That makes it a world tour. Harry Styles, you're on "Burn Notice." I'll see you soon. Look, Matt, oh, oh, I see him, I don't like it. Oh, and look over there, how is that culture? Yes, it is. Wow. "Lost Culture East Us." Ding dong, "Lost Culture East Us Calling." Couple housekeeping notes. One, "Lost Culture" is going to be twice a week from this week to the end of the year, get into it. Double stuff. Double stuff, we're doing culture catch-ups once a week. Just me and the girl. We're doing guests once a week. But just for the end of the year, we're just trying this out. And also, we owe I heart contractually. See, the thing about this is a contractual obligation, but it's also fun. You know what I mean? And one of those two things can both be true. You're real. You're winning. You're cooking. You're winning. The contract's not so fun. Take it from me. No, so we have two NBC legends in the house ready to spill all of the tea. The second thing I want to say is Bowen Yang has completed his first week as Mary Inomini. Yeah. And I have seen it twice now. You're crazy for that. I know. And the thing is, I am also richer in life and experience for that because you are so good in it. And I just, it's obviously no surprise. Was there a doubt? Was there a doubt? There was no doubt. There might have been a doubt. Shut up. And we need to get you in there. Shut up. Because the thing about Bowen is he's so amazing in the room. And like, now people have a chance to go see you in the room. And that's so exciting. And that is the way I say room, by the way. Room. That's not a long islanding. That feels like a room. Who's it more room than room? Because usually I sometimes I'll say in my room. Room-ba. Room-ba. Room-ba. Room-ba. How do Texans say roof? Roof. It's on the roof. Oh, see? It's so interesting. What do you say? Roof. Roof. Roof. The roof is on fire. The roof is on fire. So now the third thing we're going to do is we're going to address the guest that's here. So if you're sitting at home being like, why the fuck aren't they talking to Kelly Clarkson, that's what happens right now. So if you know you know, this guest is great. Lower in the podcast. She's the winningest judge on the voice, which she's returning to. Yes. Yes. Clap. Clap. It's against tonight as of this recording. Mysteriously performing at stage coach and sort of on the precipice of what seems to be a new era. Don't worry, everyone. I'm on the case. You have the right person asking the questions today. Our guest is a Grammy winning, Emmy winning, total, just joy to be around. And we're so happy that she's here again. Please welcome Kelly Clarkson and show the mug celebrating with the Mariah Mug because we were talking about my all and all the all the stuff last Mariah, the last episode all Mariah. And you never did cover it on the show. My all. You know, okay. I'm going to be the only person to have qualms about your karaoke. No, and I'm not calling it out. And it's very hard to get your first song cleared. Absolutely. Yes. Yes. So there were overtures made. There were there have been many overtures made of many songs. Yes. People be like, why doesn't she come? I'm like, I'm a huge fan, but like, not all songs can you get cleared. A hundred percent. Yes. Because people would be like, why don't you cover this artist? Why don't you cover this artist? And like, I can't get everybody to clear all their stuff. You know? Right. Which is another peak behind the curtain of this business. Yeah. Right. But do the karaoke stay on for one year? Is that what the tip of it? For ever. Really? Oh, that's huge. I don't mean. I guess it's like on what do you mean? Like, online? So I'm just, I'm only coming out at this from the total left angle, which is on us and now, if you had any music, it could live online for just one year only from air. And then after that, it was wiped across the board. Oh, I don't know if I read the fine print. I don't know if I read the fine print. I don't know if I know that. But I know that it. Yeah. They even did a deal to where it's on like my radio channel too, like we have some of them on air on there. I don't know if it's only allowed to live in a certain place. But I mean, I feel like, look, I tell my children, once it's on the internet, it's on there forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good thing for them to learn now. Yeah. That's like a gen alpha lesson that they know we don't, we didn't know. Oh, man. Aren't you just so happy? Like, I mean, y'all are a lot younger than me. But I just mean, every time I run into someone my age or older, I'm like, I could not feel more blessed to have not been young in the social media era. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. Because you know, it's a bell learning curve for everyone. Yeah. And to be of a certain age learning that would have been difficult. How are you with your kids and the social media? They're not allowed. They don't have any. Yeah. No. They're still young. Yeah. And also, I mean, there's, I have conversations about it. I mean, it's not a democracy. It's just a no. But I do hear them and I do, we do like have things that I'll, we just have pretty healthy talks about it. Because it's, it's also another layer of like, they're my kid. Yeah. And I'm in the public eye. Yeah. So it's like, people are, you're not ready. No. You're not ready for this. No, you're not ready for this. Like you have, like you see mommy being cheered all the time. Yeah. Like you know, I'm saying like, there's a whole other side of it that's super not great. Yeah. I just don't want them to and people are addicted. I think I've mentioned this on the show before it's, I've resorted to a timed lock box that fits my phone. And that's the only way I can sit through a movie in my own home. Is that not insane? I cannot relate. I am so good at not being on my phone except if it's for my lover, chat GPT. Okay. No, no, no, because I fell into it too. I'm now, I unfortunately. I don't think I use it. How everybody uses it. Okay. How do you use it? That made it sound dirty. I haven't tried that yet. It actually has limit. Sometimes it's like, I won't tell you that. Oh, I haven't done that yet, but I'm going to do it for fun. I was seeing how far I could push it. I've never done that. No, I'm the baddest. I on a designer level, I was having a hard time because I couldn't be somewhere. I was in Vegas doing stuff and I couldn't be somewhere when they were saying, what did you like here? I was trying to describe it. Usually, I draw extensive plans. Later, I get into it. There's a key. It's colored. It's like, but it takes me so long. Yeah. And now, I'm like, just send me a picture of the Hill and then they show me the picture and then I put exactly what I want. It's a designer's dream. Okay. Yeah. I'm obsessed with it. So, you're designing the Hill for? I designed it. I got this hat and it had, it just needed, just to some visual interest. Well, it needed, like, pads, it needed, like, you couldn't get to the little orchard with that. I bought this house. You couldn't get to parts of it. And I was like, okay, I want it. And I did it. I did a video and everything, but it's much easier to just show someone like this is exactly what I want. And he'd go through and you, like, fine tune it and I, my music director, Jason, showed me. And I have been obsessed since the summer. So is that your Montana, please? It's a, that, I have a place in Santa Barbara, don't, I'm in a sense, so look, I've worked hard. I worked hard. I worked hard. No, I, I have a, a little, I've always wanted a little cottage by the sea. It's by no means a little cottage, but it is, it's cute. It is cute. Humble in the way. It is cute. It's presented. It's cute. It's actually pretty. Can you make this more humble? I always, like, no, I look. I was like, I'm coming up on 25 years in the industry and I, and I was like, I always wanted a place in the mountains and I got, thought I'm going to work so hard. I grew up in a shack. I was like, what I want is, I want a ranch one day and I want a little place by the ocean. Yeah. slightly bigger. place by the ocean that I wanted but yeah but it's cute and it's not too big and I have my ranch so like I'm like 25 years later it happens yeah you've earth and water you've mountain I am almost all of Captain planet yeah I appreciate that no I do I love I just yeah I love designing too I just love like so that's really how you always like that yes yeah because my mother was so poor I would come home and you know and it would be you know we lived in either a tiny apartment or a tiny little shack in the wood like it was always like some tiny place which is fine you can by the way you can take pride in wherever you live and it can look amazing and my mother would have the furniture like if she'd have the couch just on a different wall she'd have the TV move she would just move furniture to feel like it was new yes that's a way to do it yeah she would take my pictures and she'd cut me out and she'd put me in the mountains she was the original chat she was literally the original chat TV and like but she would make it and I actually loved and she'd put it you know plants and she'd changed the furniture it looked like nice and kind of fresh and new and although it was really small we always had our our you know tiny little law and mode yeah you you could literally use a weed eater and not a mower but like it was so small but like it but it was it I think it's like it really taught me to take pride in whatever your whatever you live to take pride in it you know amazing well is she it was she a vision border are you a vision oh my god my mom was a teacher so she had all those like boards like that she was very creative they did that shit themselves I really yeah you don't really realize that until you're older and you have friends that are teacher well my dad was a teacher so I kind of understood he was a gym teacher so he wasn't crafting the stuff yeah I didn't realize until people started posting on Instagram like up yep I'm here a week early getting all my stuff together like cutting out the name tags but like it's really you have to have an arts and crafts all out yeah she was really great teacher she was a phenomenal teacher but also that your dad gym coach that's like I mean I remember my gym coaches like uh whatever sport I was playing those are also like therapists those people the coaches take on a lot it's not it's like emotional social interaction it's like so much you're learning and that is well that's a different yeah that's a different kind of hard you were you did sports right you love every all of them yeah sports ball sports ball I love playing volleyball my daughters started playing volleyball this season oh yeah I'm gonna be that mom at the game the game the first games coming up I'm gonna be cool yeah but you know what they all say that no I'm gonna be so you're gonna be involved I know you spirited I am very spirited I just so you know what you're going to be you're going to be in coach telly no I'm not like everyone deserves a ribbon come on the voice coming for throats yeah I'm like here's the thing I I don't mind losing and I teach my kids you got to learn how to lose because that is even in board games they're like they get so mad that I'm like I'm not gonna let you win what kind of loser wants to win when they really didn't win like what you know I was like come on so they have to you've to learn to lose I'm okay with that but I have to but I want to win yeah what kind of loser shows up and is like I'm totally cool if I fail yeah it's boring I love third place like what they live sticksless lives I don't want nothing to do with them wait to have the bronze like you know no one no one yeah participation trophies yeah but I'm not pushy action I'm just like I do actually want them to have fun yeah because I had so much fun yeah even the bus rides braiding each other's hair for the game like you know listen to music music music is really good like bus culture I love I miss bus culture like the I remember that was the first time I ever heard like bohemian rhapsody the first time for a lot of things in my world oh yeah yeah I was like what's happening there yeah what are you talking about my master out my kids will never ride a school bus no just too much going on there was too much that I found out other school bus yeah you mean found out found out yeah found out saw yeah wait there's a lot of crazy things happening on a southern school bus Texas and I was the first one to get picked up in the last one to be dropped off I live down the boonies so like then were you friends with the with the drivers yeah it was like well it was like I was kind of scared of him he was he was a very big like tall dude mmm like he was a very yeah I was like he yeah so then I can't even remember his name but I can see his face yeah I had a bus driver named Deb and I feel like that's what bus drivers are named that's a great so it's a very easy step is a bus driver Deb will never leave me yeah because Deb is Deb is a bus driver mine was I think he was nice he was just very quiet yeah yeah but Deb is a bus driver name and that's a rule of culture that's a culture number four Deb is a bus driver name now with my only bus driver memory formative was I was I was on the JV tennis team in a high school my freshman year and we went to Boulder from Denver to Boulder and then one of the kids Alex Kessel I think got goaded into moaning the cars driving next to the bus culture was crazy moon culture yeah but you people now I don't think people don't move anymore I'm going to start doing it it feels very neanderthal now but like we all did it we all did it so now when you moon people you've harassed you for a well no just give me a break it's funny it's funny so then he mooned but then but then the bus made a turn and guess what inertia and then he slammed his ass into the window cracked it it was one of the best moments of high school powerful powerful powerful ass moments yeah yeah yeah I I think out of the three of us I have the least powerful ass I my my bus my ass could never get into it let me tell you what and I also boy living in New York the stairs in these places yeah you trust that quick I just don't even need to go to the gym I just walk up and down yeah and down and you're good yeah I when I was moving and L.A. for those five years I was like where did it go like my butt went away that's not true you can always had a butt he can tell I miss a no meals come on fucking my automobile when I'm eating with his grill he can tell me to chill and that is culture role number number zero number zero actually don't we can't be quoting no we can't but how are you feeling since everything ceasing great I mean you know I think it was a really hard thing to do because I do love the people yeah but I will say it was very easy because it was for my kids mainly and so it's been pretty rad man I've never lived here you will understand too like being so hardcore at the schedule right it's all and that your life kind of even if you're they're like oh we only worked these hours I'm like yeah that's when I'm refueling and then for me refueling was being a mom like there was no refuel it was like working and then mom there was no like off time so it really did like we just had an amazing time to live here that's what I was gonna say to live in New York and actually get to experience it not in a hurry like I was always in a hurry on a schedule I just like take my kids to school I walk I walk I get coffee I calm it's beautiful so great you're you're gonna be no lay for the voice I am going back and forth so that'll be seven weeks of is it okay by coastal fun by coastal fun yeah but you know it could be now I can't but you know why because I have a lot of crocheting to do I promise blankets to a lot of people and I crochet so I create I get on the flight and they all see me and they're like oh my god you're you're making another boy I've done it so much to run into people going another blanket yeah so it is a lot of like I try and take it as like mom time like it's like my downtime yes yeah but it's going to be like is the voice is it actually you because I watch it sometimes and I'm like thinking about the production schedule in my head and I'm like they could backlog a lot of this well it depends on the season so some seasons we have done all in I think the last one with John and I don't I think we did like shoot most of it I feel like that was a season made of that but it depends on the season so this season they're back to the six weeks of lives so so that's live that's like yep which I love because you have to be done by a certain time everybody's like oh live makes me nervous I'm like what that means you know exactly what your schedule will be live rock because they can't go longer yeah longer we're trying to make the culture awards live but he's he he it's gonna take some convincing for him why why is it different energy live is it different energy and also I like the I like the opportunity to get a lot of stuff and then be able to cut it into something that's really good but why can't you do both you can cut it make some stuff to fit it in and then you can do live around that you know what that's actually that's true and I just think because the the culture words are such a thing where everyone sees like the red carpet picks online and then they they wait two weeks until they see the actual show it's like we can really make it a moment if it's like live and then the next day or something I mean it'll be crazy but you could always film some stuff to make it cool and then you have a backup you know if things go wrong because they do I posted live and then that yeah stall oh great yeah I mean yeah I mean the earpiece thing is something oh my you're okay with that I hate it of course you do but you have to have it in certain circumstances I wouldn't let them do the that on the they try they they talk to me about in the beginning with the talk show and I was like unless you want me going like open mouth like processing I am way too that's me for sure and sleeping by the way it's either that or like smiling too big to try to cover like like you're listening man it is yeah and I can't focus I'm too ADHD for that yeah yeah - Right. - I can't do that. - Do you feel like suddenly there is, because I also, I feel like now all of a sudden, everyone is talking about ADHD. I almost think our entire generation and community is talking about-- - It's a lot of our environment. What we eat, what we eat. I think a lot of it's been affected with that too, but yes, I am often, my, my, Nanny will be like, oh, man, you're son, and I'm like, she'll say something, I'm like, I did that yesterday. Like, I'm like, and she's like, oh, no, no, I know where he gets it from. - And wow. - Completely aware. - I think everyone has it. - It's like, I don't think everyone has it, 'cause my, my daughter doesn't, but like my, but my son and I are very, - Yeah. - Just very hyper focused on, you know, and then it can be super aloof sometimes. Yeah, squirrel. - Squirrel, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, no, it's, yeah. But I do think it's, I don't know, I don't know, I don't, 'cause it is like, even like with thyroid, that thyroid, everybody's got like hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism. - Yeah, right. - It's like, I feel like there's like these hot topics that everybody, it's like, now, I think, whatever. And it's like, well, it might be like environmental in what we're eating and like, - Yeah, it could be, and also the screens and everything. I do feel like, - The screens, not enough sleep, our society goes, goes, goes. - Yeah, I mean, it got to a point for me where I was just like, why do I always need to be doing or consuming something? That's where, that's where it showed up for me, is I was like, why do I always need to be, like I always need like a beverage with me? Yeah, or just something to constantly occupy my mind. There is no sitting and just laying. There is. - Well, literally, and you're gonna feel very vindicated, the one of the telltale signs and everyone's gonna understand that. - So everyone listen. - Everyone listen. Me, I had a year's long obsession with, watch it on 1.5 speed. Watch it on two times. Listen to it on two times. - Oh, the like, the like, speeding up the podcast. - Getting up the podcast to the video. - Or the video that you're watching at 1.5 or 2.0. 'Cause I'm like, I'm a busy guy. I gotta, I gotta eat my meal and I gotta go. I'm actually so upset that no one told me about this. And I was just like, Kelly. - Oh, yeah, no, Kelly. - Like a talk show for seven years and no one could have lived in on that little secret. Do you know which time it takes? - You have a documentary you have to watch? Could do it half the time, half the time. - Oh, you're shitting me? - No, we're not shitting you. We're actually the only people who have been real with you in years. (laughing) - We're the only people you can trust. - It would have only exacerbated your ADHD. - Okay. - 'Cause that's what it does. 'Cause she's like, but I could have saved time. - People watch football and it's like, there's three games going on. I can't, my sister does that shit. And I'm like, what is happening? - Yeah, they love it, they love it. Yesterday, Tony mocked at O'Maring. Just our resident's straight guy. We love him. Three games on at the same time. - No, that's my sister. And I was like, you have to do that on your iPad. This TV will have one on. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, just one. We can focus. (upbeat music) - What's your show of the moment? What's your current? What are you watching and doing? - Okay, so it's NFL season. - Yeah, yeah, so it's really just football. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, as well, yeah. Yeah, well, I'm in two leagues, fantasy football leagues, as well. - This is a big culture. - I'm a very, I'm very, and I had a very sad week last week. - You did, what happened to you? - Well, my team shit the bed. And-- - What did your team do you wanna say? - I won two different teams. So I have players on it. But honestly, it was kind of, okay, look. - Did you get your cowboys? - I'm gonna own this, and whatever, controversial, not. I went to the, I always go to the opening game where the giants in the cowboy, like the cowboys come and they play, I'm usually at that game. - Yeah. - The giants in the cowboys when they player. And I always get a sweet, that's where I'm like, oh no, we're spending the money, we're doing it. I'm excited. - We're doing it. - We're here. - I have never. I've done that for several years now. I have never heard a crowd so loud the, our quarterback could not even, the players could not hear the calls. They couldn't, they could, the crowd was so loud, which is a clever strategy. I'm not mad at it. - Oh, okay, you think it was strategy. - I for sure think I'm doing it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And they couldn't hear, like it was the worst game for cowboys fans, but I mean, kudos to the giants fan 'cause that was pretty clever. - They're playing D. - So loud. I have literally been to the stadium several times and we were all like, you could feel it in your body. - Yeah. - They couldn't hear. - I was crazy, but that was, but it was kind of fun. Look, I don't, I'm not mad at competitive, so. - No, no, no. - And I'm not mad at fans being happy. - Also, you have to play the terrain. - You play the terrain, that's what I always say, like survivors coming back this week and I'm like, I don't like all the twists that they do and stuff like that, but I'm like, you have to play the terrain. - You're a survivor kiddo. - Oh, I love survivors. - My sister loves that too. - I think you would like it. - You would like it. - I love naked and afraid. (laughing) - I haven't seen that in forever, but I just think it's wild at what people will choose because they're one thing. - They're one, like, they're one thing. - And is there one tool or something? - Oh, they're, 'cause they get to bring, like, - I haven't seen it a ton, but I've seen it enough to know where they get, like, I think one thing and I'm like, and that is what you chose. - Uh-huh. - Okay, okay. - A wrench. - Yeah, not a life straw. Like, to get some fresh water, not a life straw. - I'm just like, not like, fire or something sharp to make cut wood, like, I'm just, these people, I'm just like, you would die. If these camera cuts in here. - You would be. - You would be dead. - You'd actually naked, and we'd be afraid for you. - You would not make it. - Yeah. - I feel like, back on Survivor, I don't know if they still do this, but you were allowed to also bring one luxury item. - Oh. - And some girl, like, waiting for you back at-- - The resort. - If you were allowed to have it on a camp. - Oh, god, god, god, god. - Like, I remember, like, years and years and years ago, like, like, they would announce, like, and this is what they brought as their luxury item, and it, like, said something about them. Now, they don't really do it anymore, but I knew one girl who was gonna apply for the show and she goes, "I have a total hack for what I would bring." And I was like, "What?" She goes, "A water purifier." And I was like, "Huh?" She goes, "You just go to the ocean, put the water in the water purifier, and then you can drink it." I was like, "Oh, you're perfect for reality TV." - What? - "You need to go on the show." - She thinks it's like a desalant. - She thinks it's gonna-- - She thinks it's gonna-- - She can do that with ocean water. - You can't do that with ocean water. - You literally can't. - No, I know. - It will not. - But I do think she's perfect for reality television. - You've got to break, like, burst that bubble. Like, and that would have been-- - I don't even-- - I don't think they made it on the show. Her name was Megan. I don't think she got on. - That would have been great. - But she is an all-star. They don't know they haven't casted it. - Right. - Oh, man. - Just telling the tribe, like, while everyone's setting up. And guys, don't worry. I'm getting buckets of water from the ocean. I brought a water purifier. (laughing) - Can you imagine? - I lived it in terms of having the conversation with her. - That would be a chicken of the sea moment. - Chicken of the sea. - That would have been a chicken of the sea. - That's your Texas sister, Justin Simpson, making her mark on the culture. - That made me so happy. I laughed so hard. That gave me so much joy for you to enjoy. - Talk about reality TV, meant to be on reality TV. - Oh, Jessica Simpson. - It's very lit. - The traitors last night, like, the-- - My sister's obsessed with that one. - See, don't you watch the traitors watch her? - I hear the thing. I don't watch a lot. And especially since not having the show. - Yeah, exactly. - You don't have to. - You don't have to say you watch. - No, it's not even their say. I would genuinely try and watch everything possible. - Yeah. - If it wasn't possible, my manager would be like, "We watch this 'cause I can't possibly watch "possibly because I'm the same dentist medical." - Yeah, I'm like, you've got it here. (laughing) So I, no, I did a lot. So now I'm just kind of like, I'm reading. I didn't have time to read before I had some reading. - What you're reading? - A brief history of humankind. I didn't know, okay, I watched this doc. And it was on AI and it was really interesting. - Scary and cool. - Yeah. - And this guy was on there and I love how he's talking. They said he had written a book or whatever and turns out it's like a huge book. (laughing) - Yeah, yeah. - I didn't know about it. But it's a brief history of humankind. It's interesting. So far, I'm not even, I have to read some of it. - Yeah. - Walk away. - Yeah, that's how I am. - And then 'cause in order for me to like retain, 'cause it's a lot, but it's so good. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's interesting. - Reading is fundamental. - We'll fundamental, but it is literally, okay. - Reading. (laughing) - Wait. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Okay, okay, okay. - By the way, I mean, I think you're gonna get sick of this, but as your last Kellioki, was that intentional where you're like, I'm gonna be hearing about this for the rest of my life? - And did at your end of your pee. - Everyone was asking for it. And as soon as they started asking, I was like, you know what? I was like, and I love, we are a huge K-pop even. - Five fours. - I'm a huge K-pop even. - Five fours. - And even when my kids leave the room, I still watch it. (laughing) - Our friend, we love it. - We love it. - He's one of the- - He's one of the boys. - He's one of the boys. - I love it. I eat it up. I love it. And so I was excited to do it. And you know, when you're singing along to something. - Yeah. - And then you're singing it. - Yeah. - It's very different. And we, a little known fact, we actually, I knew I was gonna have it be the last Kellioki, 'cause I was like, I don't think you can kind of go, but it's like an Oscar when it was like a huge song, right? And I was like, let's just make it the last. So I knew whenever I'd covered the other one, I covered another one from the soundtrack, too. But they were like, oh, she didn't do gold, and I'm like, just wait. - Yeah. - But I came in and I was sick, and we had been going back and forth and I'd done it, and I tried to do gold and sick. - I was like, I can do it. I can pull it out. - What? - No. - I couldn't. - Just 'cause there's so much change of the- - There are so much register, my lows were incredible, 'cause I was sick, but I was like, it just was like, that song- - You don't realize it goes so low. - It's, it goes so low, but in the high part, it's like, it's not that it's too high for me. It's high in in your chest voice, and in certain vows, it's like trying to not sound like a dying cat. - Yeah. - At that decibel with your chest voice, I had my poor children. - Oh, lucky. - I sang that song in the shower for, at least a couple weeks. 'Cause like trying to find where to place it, because I was trying to place it where it was like, I could do it. - Yeah. - 'Cause I'm not AI, it's a really weird song to sing when you're a human and just for placement. But it was like a really fun challenge and I loved that it was, I mean, I never wanted it again. But it was a fun challenge. I think at this point in my career, you know, we sing so many songs and they're not generally challenges are just fun and it's like working it out. It's like fun. - Sure. But I had nothing had been like that challenging. - Oh. - And so that was a tricky one. - That's a huge statement for you to say nothing had been that challenging 'cause you kind of ran the damn gamut. - But I think most of the song, like I think, I'm just such a fan of music and like, you know, people would be like, oh, she covered this, you know, Whitney one or this lean one or this, you know, whatever. I think we even did a Metallica at one point. Like we did, we covered a random, you know, country, but I genuinely had been listening to all those artists and songs since I was a kid. So it was kind of innate in me, a lot of those. So doing this one though was like, it felt like, it honestly felt like it was like humans competing against AI. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. This song was the final task. - And I tell you what, bitches, I was like, I was like, I was like, you can do this. - Yeah, you don't have us yet. - Because I couldn't, and my son is so honest. And he was like, he would walk by and I would be in my infrared sonic, because it's a nice place to open to you up. And I was like, 'cause it's all the heat. And I was like, you know, trying to find that placement. And he was like, he would come by and this would be his way of being like, he'd be like, wow, he was like, that's a really high song. - Well, that one's hard to sing, huh? - I was like, I'm running, I'm trying to figure it out. - Your son dresses so fly. - He would love that you said, he wears suits to school. Like he wears, like he loves, he's not me at all. My daughter is me. - Yeah. - She likes a little bit, but she's very low key. - Yeah. - He is just like, how can I look, the coolest in the room? - He looked fresh, I like, I saw you in Vegas last November. And like, he was dressed so fly. - He loves, yeah, he loves to, and he loves to look like, he wants to be Steven Spielberg. He wants to be a film director. And that's like his dream right now and life. And so he loves, he even sees all the like, older directors, how they used to dress or whatever. - He really, yeah, he really gets into it. - Yeah. - 'Cause he already has the thing of directors, which is like, oh, he's just a cool guy, 'cause I will never forget him saying, is it the Brooklyn Bridge and screaming, this is freedom! - Oh, he was like New York, yeah, yeah, I was like, yeah, I was like, we were coming in in New York and I was like, what, you like New York so much? He was like, 'cause it's freedom! And I was like, what does that mean? - Were we in prison before? - I mean. - What does that mean? - I think there's that. - I've actually been talking a lot about this lately, like just because I think, you know, it's really nice weather right now and you see people kind of-- - We just went to the zoo and had the most amazing day. - It's so beautiful out. - And so people are dressing in ways where the, it's like when it first becomes summer, you start to see everyone's legs and like people are wearing their fun summer stuff. Right now I think people are endeavoring into their fall clothes. - In the layers. - And what I love about like New York style is everyone is so different. So maybe he was reacting to that. Like just the-- - Like style. Like truly talking, yeah. - Like the individualism, it's like that is freedom. - And I literally said that whenever before we moved here and I was, we were in LA, there was obviously a lot going on in my world and I was like, I need a fresh start. And I was like, and I happen to be having a meeting with my label here at the time and it was years ago. And I remember looking at Trisha and my manager and I was like, we were in a restaurant. I think my sister was there too. And I was looking around and literally I was like, everyone can be anyone here. I was like, there were so many different, it was such a variety of human beings. Like and whatever culture they were from, whatever they were into. Like it was, everybody looked so different but everybody kind of fit. And I was like, should we move here? - Yeah. - I was like, this is kind of awesome. You can just, and no one cares. Like if you're famous here, no one cares. - Everyone is the lead character in their movie and I'm beautiful for it. Yeah. - You're so right about that. - Yeah. - It's like everyone is playing their own soundtrack. - Yeah. - You know, and that could be, 'cause I remember when I first came here at 18 on Bermuda you felt the same. It can feel pretty lonely at the first. - Oh yeah. - Because everyone knows exactly where they're going. And it's like, whoa, like I don't know the, I can't walk that fast yet because I don't know where I'm going yet. You know, it's like everyone's so sure. - Yeah, I think mine, well, that's what I love about right now for me. So I used to have to be so sure and on time everywhere. Now it's like, as soon as I get my kids to school on time, we're figuring that out 'cause dropping both of them off is crazy. But anyway, but they're, it's, you don't have to be in a hurry. It's so to be able to live here and not be in a hurry. - Yeah. - And just have whatever soundtrack you wanna go at, or just listening, just to the sound. It's like very, it's very wonderful. - Are you dating? - No, my kids right now, I think there's a lot behind that, but like I think they, yeah, that would rock their boat a little bit. And honestly, this is not a bullshit answer. I love my life right now. Like it just got like to where I am not exhausted at every point of it. - You don't have anchors, yes. - And I feel like if you're gonna be in a relationship, you have to be willing to give some of your time up and I am unwilling. - Good, that's a good thing. And also this is probably the first time, and I'm sure you understand this. I'm just saying this 'cause I understand this. It's like the first time it's the three of you without this big thing looming over it, having its own presence. - Yeah, it's just, it's been really good. And we're having fun and we're, you know, we're cooking, we're playing games. I'm there, it pick up or I'm there dropping off. I'm there, like it's just, it's real different. But it's a, it's a beautiful city, I will say, to raise kiddos in too, because I wasn't really exposed to like different cultures, I wasn't really exposed to anything like that. Like I love where I grew, obviously I turned out all right, but I just meant, it's a cool thing for them to have just every color of the rainbow, every, you know, color of personality, everything, you know what I'm saying? It's awesome. - Do they travel with you internationally too? 'Cause you were just saying you were in Shanghai. - Oh yeah, they do. And we loved it. Oh my God, let's talk about it. Okay, so first of all, okay. We went to several different parts in Asia, I love Asia. But we went to Shanghai and I was telling y'all, 'cause I came in with my cute skirt. - The, that's, oh my God. - In that sort of visual medium, you can see this skirt if you watch on YouTube, but if you're just listening, this is a good skirt. - Which I was thinking about making pants, 'cause it is a cute pant look too. But anyway, I, 'cause I love altering things that I find, but I found it in this cute thrift store in Shanghai in the middle of this, just random store, it was like the size of a closet, it had such great stuff. Anyway, I love it. I love Shanghai, I'm not a person that's super into fashion. I like what I like, but it's not like a thing I like, I don't think that's secret. - You have your own style, but you're not into fashion fashion. - Yeah, I'm just like a hardcore, like I'm in it, but I respect it and I love, I'm like, oh, I love the creative, you know, behind it, but I'm not generally, but I tell you what, I got to Shanghai and I saw all these chic Chinese grandma. - Yes. - And I was like, do I wanna be a chic Chinese grandma? - Like they were so cool and everything was so relaxed and layered and effortless and easy. And it was so cool, they look so good. - So you are responding to something in that fashion sense. All you have to do is Google Chinatown Pretty. It's this copy table book I have it at home, you've seen it. It's like, just old women and men from Chinatowns across the world just looking fly as fuck. And it's like, I think this was, and it's very much like a style that I was trying to adopt. I don't think I've totally nailed it, but I think it's like, you and I have this connection. - Okay, wait, have you seen the thing? Somebody showed me the thing 'cause I'm not on social media and my friends will show me things every now and then. And there is this cute couple, are they from Thailand? They're, it's this older couple, they own a laundry mat. And people leave their stuff. I think they were, I can't remember where they're from. - Sure, but they take this stuff. - But they take it and they look so cool. - Like, they're the coolest older couple. And I'm like, this is couple goals. If I could find someone like this, I would carve out time. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - If I could find somebody that would hang like this 'til I'm old, this is time I would carve out. - Of course. - But they're, yeah, they're so cool. They take all the stuff that people leave and they make outfits and they post or whatever. And they, just so, yeah, yeah. - I always hated too, like when they are like, "Oh, you wore that here so you can't wear it again." I'm like, "Not to me." - Not to me wear it again. - People respect, there's no, there's no, like, oh, they wore that again. And if you were the kind of person who's like, you're repeating an outfit. - I don't think so. - Yeah, right. - Like, can you ever-- - Just like, what? It's such a waste. It was comfortable the first time. - Well, sometimes things look good in many different situations. - Absolutely. - There's scenarios, it's like, yeah. - You're gonna be wearing that skirt again. I'm sure. - I'm gonna, I'm gonna wear it everywhere. - Everywhere, wait, wait. - It's so comfortable. - Where else are you going, Asia? - We went to Beijing, we did the Great Wall. And it was so funny because my mom has a cane. She had to have surgery on both her knees at some point. So, they're not the same, right? - Right. - And so, we get to the Great Wall and the steps. - They're crazy. - Are crazy. - Some of them are two feet tall. I feel like, and then one's like, you know. Yeah, tiny. It's crazy, it's crazy different, right? But we got, we made it all the way to the wall. And then my mom was like, oh, and she looked at it. She was like, and I go, oh, no, no. We did not. come all the way to Beijing, get to the Great Wall for you to just look at them. I was like, we're going to get up there. And so all these people were watching me. My mom was on my shoulders, and I was literally underneath the verge of just pushing her up the stairs, because you have to get on the wall. We did not come all the way here, so we got her up there. But I think they were like crazy Americans. Like, 'cause I was, it was hilarious. And now-- - 'Cause they probably were like, we saw Kelly Clarkson lift her mother over her head. - Well, they were actually very helpful. People were very helpful and sweet. They were actually very sweet. That's something I love too, about Asian culture, eyewitness. - They're sweet people. - Well, sweet, but also with the moms or grandmalls or whatever, everybody is like, everybody is so polite and everybody is so helpful and everybody, it's like that you almost, it's such a level of respect for your elders, like it's, I loved that. - Did you guys slide down? - We wanted to do that. They had that closed for some reason. - We were gonna do that and it was closed. 'Cause I wanted to do, I saw it online. - There's like little slides, there's like slides and you get in the little thing and then you slide all the way around a little bit. - I know, it's really fun. - Yeah, I love to slide. - I love that I feel like Lily's homlin' in that big chair. - We, see. - Do you like, these are my-- - The socks, the old river. - They made, oh my God. - You're welcome. - It's a crafty community. - I know, that's art, yeah. - They are. - Oh wait, so speaking of, speaking of your fans, I think that they're wanting to know something and you're dropping hints. And they're big hints. And I have to ask you, right directly to your face. - Ask me. - And it would be cool. - I would say what I can say. - Is it a country album coming? - Oh, you know what, I wouldn't expect, I wouldn't-- - I'd define genre. - I wouldn't expect to find genre. Even like the single that I've released so far, there's only been only two. Where have you been was very different. It was kind of classic and could go in many different genres. I feel like-- - Yeah. - And then I'd be like, "I was definitely dyke down the road, like Pop Rock." Like we kind of did that. The next one we've been working right now is completely different than any single I've ever put out. And honestly, it was kind of a happy accident. - Uh-huh. Based on who you were working with or-- - Well, no, it's based on how I had to record something because of the situation I was in and I had to be quiet. And then it was like-- - Maybe there's something in it. - It was kind of cool, like how it happened. So the next one's very interesting. And the next one, they all don't sound like each other. And there's definitely different genres already have been written and working on. But that's the thing that I loved about starting my label. And I was like, I don't care if it's successful or not. I just want to write what I want to write when I write it. And I want to release it when I want to release it. People dig it cool. People don't and it's not their vibe cool. But I definitely am not going to do the thing where you have to release the same vibe every time. So it's very different. - It was the stage coach of it all. And I do feel like you've given a little twang on I'd be lion. And so I was like, I was wondering if we were headed in a specific direction. But also this feels more accurate to who you've always been. - Well, yeah, and I played country events several times. I haven't been able to say yes to stage coach or any festivals really just because of time because of the talk show. So I am like, I literally like, once I've wrapped up the show, I told my agents. I was like, okay, all these things I've been having to say no to, I would really love to jump into because I love doing, you know, I played the Houston Radio too. And like, you know, there's several plays that like a lot of country artists more or less play generally, but I mean, I've done that pretty regularly on and off for years. But no, they asked me, it was like, you want to open for Garth like at this stage coach. And I was like, that has to be sick for you. - Yes, I do. - Yeah, no, are you shitting me? - No, your songs and stories with Garth was so special. - I love him. I'm not gonna, I'm, and I've sung with them before. I've been in the studio before. I'm obsessed even more with his wife. Like, I loved her so much, oh my God, her voice. - The Georgia Rain. - God, she's so amazing. - This is me you're talking to. Do you know that song? - Do I know that song? - I shouldn't have done that. - You put me on to that one, you're right. It's so good. - I'm telling you. - She's crazy. - That song. - Yeah. - It's so crazy. - She's really, she's just a, it's just a crazy, talented vocalist. And I love the same people she loves too. Like Linda Ronstadt, that's one of her favorites. - Yeah. - That's one of mine as well. But like Linda, she floated during two different genres. - Yeah, absolutely. - And even languages, like, you know. So, but yeah, and then there's another, there's like a few projects I'm working on right now. 'Cause there's another one that fans have been asking for. For years. - What did that be? - And then there's another one that people, and there may not be expected. 'Cause we're coming up on 25 years. - Yes, yes, yes. Okay. - I know what it is because you actually told me what it was. - And I'm not gonna guess because I know. - Okay. - But he's not gonna reveal it either. - I think a lot of fans have guessed, and I kind of mentioned a little bit when I was on stage. - Because you looked me in my eyes and said, don't say anything, and I told you you could trust me. - And then I probably walked directly out on stage right after that. - Said to everyone. - Said to everyone. - Yeah. - No, I haven't like announced it, but no. There's something that people have been asking for for a while. And look, it just, I was waiting for the right, it hadn't been the right time. And I love where I'm at vocally right now. I love where, like, how we sound, like, right now as a band. - Yeah, you beat the robots. You saying gold, and you beat AI. - Beat. - The robot. - AI. - Yeah. - It's time. - It's time. - I'm telling you, that's a hard one. - It's a tall order. - It is a tall order. - But speaking of, you know, we're talking about stage coach, and you mentioned Linda, and I feel like one thing that I'll always remember is, you always give a vinyl at the end of your, when people sing to your show. - Yeah, I pick vinyl. - And I've gotten a few from you, 'cause we've been lucky enough to be on the show. And one of them that you gave me was Jolyne by Dolly Parton. - Oh my God. - And I was just thinking about that the other day, because obviously Dolly's been so top of mine. I'm actually going to Dollywood in a few weeks for the first time. - Oh, I loved it. - For the first time? - Never been. I'm like a few rollercoaster person. - Okay, let me break something down for you. - Come on out. - There is a wooden rollercoaster there. - Talking about Thunderhead. - I don't remember the name, but I will never write it again. - Was it tough? - Here's the thing, I write everything. Like I read the stuff that people you see getting stuck on you too. Like I ride everything. - You go for it. - This particular rollercoaster, my sister and I rode together, and I thought, well, at least I'm gonna die with her. - Oh my God. - It's another thing that Dolly was good at. - It's like, it's like the, no, it's like the wooden rollercoaster, it's like the Texas giant, it's like the Texas, it's wooden. I used to wait three and a half to four hours for that ride, and it's wooden. And you know how you feel and it feels like it shakes in a different way? - I don't know how you do on wooden. - I love wooden. - Okay. - You should definitely write it, but why are you writing it? - No, that you're gonna make it. You're gonna make it. - Yeah, there's been times when I'm like, I'm like, oh wow, this is, this is truly, they just actually, there was a rollercoaster in Six Flags Magic Mountain. It was called X2, and they're actually taking it down. Because someone just got serious, I think something really happened with their brain, and then they were like, they released findings that were like, yeah, this rollercoaster actually may not be safe. - So it's like, every time you go to a theme park and you're like, oh please, you're so much safer in this than you are in your own car. It's like, not this one, and I've done that one, and it was the only time, the one and only time I felt like I might die on this. - Did you and I do Kandika together? - We did. - What is it called? - Kandika, which that down to, it's a big fallace to the sky. - It was like this, and it was basically, you go zero to 100, I think, 40 in two seconds, and then you go up 90 degrees. - Totally vertical, and then it's a big, a big ol' penis of the sky, and then it goes all the way down. - 450 feet. - I don't know about that. - No, 'cause they took that down to, but then it was-- - I generally do ride everything, at least once. - You got kids now, you can't do that. - No, I did it this time, and it was funny. I was with my brother and law on this one. I don't know what the ride, but I don't remember where we were. We're here in Universal. I can't remember, we generally do Universal and Disney like a same trip, but-- - Did you guys do that? That's what we do. - Oh my gosh, there was, I can't remember the name of it. One was yellow, the Velocita, is that-- - Oh, our star-dust racers. - Star-dust racers. - Mama, we got the bug. (laughing) - You deserve that fucking bug, 'cause that's anyone. That ride, that was hilarious. First of all, I'm so glad I rode with my brother and law because he is like six, four, and like a manly dude. - The J-Forces don't play on bodies that big though. - Manly dude, and he was like, he was like, I did this to myself. He was thinking of tears like sinks that I've never heard him say, and I laughed the whole time. I was so glad I rode with him, 'cause if I wouldn't have ridden with him, I think I'd have peed in my pants. - So Kelly, we actually have you to thank for this. We went down there and covered him for your show. And then they put us on the Star-dust racer. - Was it GoPro? - Were you in front? - We were in the very front, and then guess what? For coverage, they had us do it twice. - Hey, guess what? We didn't twice too, pretty sure. - We had just come from doing the hot one. - No, we tried to do it twice, and then it broke down. That's, we didn't do it twice, it broke down. - But Kelly, this is how you understand. - What you don't like to hear? - No, the queue experience, the line experience, waiting in line between rides is actually hugely important. - You need it. - Your body needs to reset. - Okay, let me tell you about another friend of mine. Cosmic Rewarned. - Oh, we love her. - That's our dream. - That's my favorite ride in all of the lands. And I ride it like 10 times in a row. - Have you got any, I look at those guides and I go, what is, when do we get to rude? You know what I'm saying? - Yeah. - Sometimes we cut it like, when do we, what do we, do we get to like, she's a piece of shit for going this many times. - No. - But it's my one, I would go to Disney World just for that ride to ride all day long. - The guys do that, you eat at the Hibachi Japan. You have an amazing night. - Jamie Berry, our guy at Universal, who we love. - We love you, Jamie. - We love you, girl. - She says, I might get her in trouble for saying this, but she's like, we'll cosmic rewinds the best coaster in the world. - It is the best coaster in the world, but I will tell you, Shanghai, let's come back. - Wait, yes. - Have you been to Disney World Shanghai? - I have, it's, I went to the beginning with Tron, but now Tron's in Orlando, but we're gonna say. - Have you ridden Pirates of the Caribbean in Shanghai? - Okay, I have, I have. - Wait, the new one? - Not the new one, 'cause I went when it opened in 2018-15. - No, this is crazy. - There's a new one. - Oh my God, this ride, we were like, are, is this the future of ride? - You can't think what happens, you see. - What happens, what happens? - Literally, all you hear is every human go, 'cause it's the most incredible ride. First of all, I had no idea we were underwater, I had no idea that we were gonna ride the, how they, the billions of dollars that were spent on that ride, every penny was worth it. - Yeah, wow. - It was. - It's like a boat ride, but that was so underwater. - You go underwater. - So that it's got full screens, so basically it's like, you look out and it's the screen, you don't really know where the practical water ends and the screen begins. - It's like you're in virtual reality. - It's kind of like a better version of, what was it, journey to the center of the earth? I took you to Disney. - Do I like journey to the center of the earth? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - It's like a jacked on version of Power to the Caribbean. - It's like a hundred times, 'cause in my son and I, we went to Disney, we got back here and he goes, he looked at me and we were just like, Disneyland or Disney World here and he was like, it's not the same. - Oh no, he's dead ass, right? - It was his favorite ride, that was his favorite ride and like Shanghai Disney run dead. - You know, well, it'll never be like that. - It can and will never be. - The Shanghai moment. - All right, so the Caribbean. - I love it, you all look cosmic rewind. - Wait, what's your favorite song? - Konga. - That's a good one. - So for the first time I went, we went five times, never got everybody wants to world, which was my favorite song. - I like that one too. - We just went. - No, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But then when we went back this time, a couple months ago, September. - That's my son's favorite. - And I was just vibe, I felt like I was on a party drug. I was like, I'm having a bath. - It's a party drug. - It's like this. - We're out taking drugs. - I know. - Such a good vibe. - I love it. - Change some of our friend's lives. Our friend Steven got off of it and I don't think he stopped talking about it. - No. - People get on the ride, they get off and they're like, I can't deal with the fact that I have reached the peak. - You can't find it. - You can't send it. - Yeah. - It's my daughter got me for Christmas this past year and an actual cosmic rewind. She had one made like on Etsy with my nanny 'cause she was like, we know you love this. I was like, it's my, it's my happy place. - It's the dream. - Yeah. - And now you have a song on the rock and roll coaster. - Yes. - I do. - Huge coup. - It's my version of walking on tension. - Yes. - That was really cool. And my kids, we got on it and wrote it. And I felt like I was sore. - So we were like, this is you on the ride. I was like, I'm incredible. Right? This is amazing. Yes. - We are good friends. - And then we got her to figure it out. - They had to play for you. - They said they couldn't actually time it. They were gonna try to, but they can't actually because of how it, whatever. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They were like, we're hoping that we were trying to do it, but then it happened. - Wait, but can we just say for a second, that does not inspire much confidence in rollercoasters in general 'cause of Disney World can't sink it so that they can play walking on sunshine. - It's because of random. They do it at a random, 'cause there's so many songs that they do. - You can't have rollercoasters be random. - The same thing is like cosmic rewind, though. - You can't. - Yeah, 'cause it's randomized. - It's randomized, it's intentionally randomized. - They were really trying, but we did get it. And it was very cool to have your own voice like. But I was like, I was such a fan of Erasmith. Like, I'm like, I'm a huge fan, and I was such a fan of them on that ride. I was so, we're like, yeah, yeah, like in the beginning. Why? You know his whole thing? You know, I loved it, and I'd be doing it as well. And my son is like, what's wrong with you? - You know who we did get? Jennifer Hudson. - We got Jennifer Hudson. - Is she on one of us? - She's on one of us. - She's on one of us too. - What is she saying? - She sings "Love Rolla Coaster". - Oh my coaster. - Oh my coaster. - Oh no. - Yeah, it was pretty. And one thing I want them to crank it up a little bit volume wise. - We maybe our ears weren't far back in there. But it's later says, "What are you listening to lately?" What's, yeah. - Jungle? - Love. - Hey. - My makeup artist turned me on to jungle, and now I'm obsessed and listened to it all the time. - Yeah, I was talking about Coachella two years ago. - Oh really? - I'm a little old. - She actually, funny enough, showed me like two years ago, and I missed it in the text, and I went back to look for a picture she had sent for something, and I was like, what is this? So I missed it. She told me about it like a couple of years ago, and I've totally missed it. - Yeah. - Love that. - That's cool. I'm obsessed with Addaboy. Yep, I can listen to that all the time. 'Cause I like music that I can get on my, 'cause I, you know, have been the summer in Montana a lot. - Yeah. - Any trail ride music, 'cause I'll be in my A.J.'s like on the trail, and any vibe music like that, I'm doing for. - You wanna let it rip on the-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and then there's this song, I don't know the title. I'm trying to learn it. I think it's, I don't know what, I'm gonna sound stupid. I'm not even gonna say what I said. Anyway, I love it. It's a Carol G song, and it's called C. It's a older song of hers. - It's a new carol. (singing) - I love all the J's, everything. Actually, it was pretty good. - Oh my God, I'm a sister. - The other night I met life and couldn't go. - She's feeling out of my life. - Yeah, she's a her. - No, she could not. - She also had line Coachella last year, and it was on-- - So I didn't even know that. - Leaveable. - I am of-- - The biggest Latin artist. - Ever. - Ever. - Yeah. - I gotta be honest to you. I didn't even know that. I just love it. - Yeah. - It's a huge-- - It was like, if you like this, you might like this or something, and I was like, okay, and I was listening to it. I was like, is this my favorite? So my kids, now we, it's so funny though, we're all in the car, and we're like, (singing in foreign language) - You have words. - Yeah, I'm like, I haven't learned it yet, and I really want to learn it. - Doesn't matter, you know the notes. - If I was doing a Kellioki, I would do that. I wasn't aware of the song. - Yeah. - I know, I was very mad about it. - Of course. - This is where you make your big announcement. You're coming back. - You're coming back. - Coming back just to cover this song. - You know what I need people to make more noise about? Is the new Ellie Golding. - Yes. - Oh, I don't know. - Oh, she just released a new album. - Oh. - That's a success. - I love her. - I like her too. - And you know what? I didn't realize how much I loved her always. 'Cause I think that she actually is a pop artist that people took for granted. - I think they did too. - And I think that she actually was much more influential on the sound of all the younger pop girlies now. Even the way she sings, like I guess they call it the cursive style of singing, like. - I didn't consider that cursive. - Not really, but you know, it's like sort of like, there's like an inherent rasp in it. - Yeah, yeah, it's a fantastic to her. - And also I would also give credit to Halsey for this stuff. - Yes. - You know what I mean? I also don't think, I think both of those ladies don't really give enough credit for like. - Michael's too, yeah, yeah. - Who? - Julia Michaels. - Julia Michaels. - Yeah, that sound too. Because she was on a lot of those before she had her own thing. She was on a lot of those demos that went around. Like she was writing for a lot of people. So a lot of people kind of adopted her sound too. I would hear, like, oh this is like Julia, like, 'cause I only knew her as a demo sync. 'Cause when they'd send you songs or whatever, they're like, hey, do you like this? Like, is I right? But I also like singing other people's stuff. - And I would start to hear her. It's like her. - It's just her like, keep hearing. - Yeah, well, I was like her and see her. Like, people would kind of adopt their sound and they'd do sing their songs a little bit. - Yeah, I really understand that. She had the song, like a cat on ball. And I was like, this is a big open sea of people. - Big, yeah. - But it's kind of, because they wrote a lot of songs for a lot of other people. So I think that's what, before they even, you know, not before, not sea of, sea of is up before. But I'd, Julia definitely was writing a lot before. - Julia wrote for you, right? - Yeah, she's written stuff. Yeah, she's written stuff. - She's written stuff. - Well, the sea of, not piece by piece. - Not piece by piece. - On the album. - Oh, I thought you meant that song. I was like, oh no, that's not the album, yeah. - No, that was all you. - Yeah, oh, there's some trauma for that one. - I know, yes, I just, I don't know, I'm not bringing up the stuff. - Test him into that song though that it's lived so many. - Yeah. - Oh, piece by piece. - Yeah. - You know what, and kind of cool, because I never really thought about music like that to be a, you know, you always think about it of where it is and it's that chapter and that's what it is. And I was like, well, that's kind of interesting to have somebody come in and like go, well, this is a different chapter. What does this feel like now? Kind of cool. I never really thought, I've never done it with another song, but like, and probably won't. But then it kind of feels like it landed where it was supposed to. - Right. - For me now. - It's like a both sides now situation in a way. - Oh my God. - That's such a great song. - But like, it just changed meaning over time. Like songs have that quality. - Yeah. - Or when you listen to songs that you really like when you're young and you're like, oh, I didn't get it. - Yeah, oh, absolutely. - You're like, oh wait. - This whole artist for me like that. Like, it happened for me with Lana Del Rey. - Yeah. - I've never really understood it. And then let, again, a few years ago at Coachella, I, she did her headlining set and I was like, oh, I get Lana Del Rey. - Yeah, yeah. - And then I would do like a whole year long and you wanna appear. - I mean her voice, her approach is such a cool vibe and singular. Like, it's her thing, you know? - Did you sing off to the races once? - I did. - Oh, so cool. - I don't know if I did it on the show. I think I did it and-- - I guess I'll you do it in concert. - Yeah, I think I didn't concert. 'Cause people don't realize the Kelliokie thing. Like, I've been covering songs that- - Well, American Idol fans. - And you did it in all your shows. - This is my first tour. Like I've been doing that regularly. So we just kind of brought it in the TV shows. So it's kind of 'cause they're like, oh, what are you gonna do now? I'm like, well, kind of what I was doing before. - All right, all right. - I was like, I've been doing this like on the road for a while. So yeah, no, I did, I did off to the race. Yeah, I love that one. - Just to speak one more time about the dolly of it all, like I wanted to know, did you have a relationship with her like a close relationship? - Not a super close one. We had like, we always like ran into each other and we're both very, we're both like souls that you could meet for the first time I feel like and we're both like, what's up? And you could really engage with someone and almost feel like you've known them. - Yeah. - For a minute, I feel like we both have that kind of vibe about us. - Totally. - And we, from the first moment, you know, we met and we were sitting together actually, I think it was at a revotribute years and years and years ago. And it was her and Barbara Mandrel and me. And I was like, which one of these is not like the other? Is it the Kennedy Center? - I was like, no, this was years ago for like a country thing and then we kept running into each other. We'd run into each other different things. - I remember this. You sang why haven't I heard from you? - That's what I do for you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was another thing. It was a Nashville that we were both doing at trivia. Or it might have been an LA they were shooting. I can't remember. But anyway, we, but the thing that I think the moment we had, which was so telling, which nobody really knew, was like the day, well, first of all, she had asked, they had said, oh, dolly was asked if you'd sing at this tribute because they were doing a dolly tribute. And I guess she had asked specifically if I would do it and I was like, oh my God, for sure, whatever she wants. Well, didn't know that would entail. I will always love you. - Yeah, but she loved your version. - Well, that is a tall order. From two giant, enormous influences of mine that are like, what? So we tried to do a marriage of honor, her version and Whitney's, but it was crazy because not many people knew, I mean, they knew she was side stage and like watching me do it. And, but they didn't know like my divorce papers, everything was final. My life, 30 minutes before that performance. So I found out like right before that performance. - So you lived it. - And I'm sitting there and she kind of caught me and we were backstage, and I was like, I'm sorry. I was like, I was like, 'cause she kind of saw and she was, I'd done something and we were having a conversation about something else and I was like, I'm sorry. I was like, it's just kind of a wild moment for me and I was like, I'm going to go out there and do this song and I know the Porter Wagner, like the whole thing with that song and like why that song is, it was just kind of crazy. Like what I was going through in that moment and then we just had this moment backstage where she's just one of those people you don't have to know your whole life but you can in one instance. - Totally. - And so every time we ran into each other, she was so cool and it's like you're catching up with an old friend, but then that moment for me and you know what she said backstage to me was just like, it was just a really beautiful thing. And really helpful because I was like, oh my God, you cannot break. Like this moment isn't about you. Like this is a tribute to someone but I was like caring, like you know, so much had just been like lifted. It was just a really weird hour for me. But yeah, but anyway, she was very, very cool and I'll never forget that moment. And then I also was like, I slightly hate you for asking me to sing this song. (laughing) This is a total order. - It feels like that's kind of a bit of a theme is you need to or you are asked to sing that songs in very difficult moments. Like even going back all the way to American Idol where it's like there's pressure on this life moment and then there's the overwhelming emotion. - Or even piece by piece, they asked me to sing that and I came back and it was like, oh man, I'm pregnant and so emotional and it was like these halls as I was 19 years old and yeah, I feel like that was. - We've seen you perform while carrying a lot many times over the past, now 20, almost 25 years. That's kind of maybe the most out of anyone like that sings professionally. - Or that you know, that's the thing too. You don't know what people are. - That's right. - Like I remember, I had to leave. We were all on tour and Katie came out. Katie Perry came out with her. It was at a documentary or a film or something. Whatever, we wanted to go watch it. I had to leave because I was like, if the moment which she was in, I think it was how Paula I've been at that festival too. And you're coming up and your life is falling apart but you're like, okay, this moment isn't about me. Sometimes I've got to like pull it together for the others. Like, you know, it's like, and it's not like a world human. So if you break, it's okay. But like it, you know, it's just like I had to, I was like, oh, and I'm good. I was like, I don't need to watch this. - Yeah, I was so loved to do that. - But all of us do that. Like, yes, it's maybe different when you're in a spotlight and tons of people watching, but the same thing. People are showing up at their cubicle or they're showing up as a teacher or they're showing up. Whatever job they do, we all have so much going on. And that's why it's like, when it can be such a hateful, kind of hard world, it's like, just remember, everybody's got their own shit going on. You have no idea what's happening behind the curtain and what they're kind of keeping together. Like, you just don't know. So like, maybe just be a little kind, you know? - But I think you're also an example of even if you do share that. And that's totally at your discretion. But if you do share the things that you're going through as you go and perform something like you just did with the dolly story or with the piece by, I'll never forget the piece by piece performance because of the context, because of what you were experiencing. - Well, and people don't know, like, also rough times. - Of course, yes, yes, yes, yes. - For me, I significant other at that time. - Yes, yes. - So it was like a lot of projection too of like, we can do this, you know? Like, it's almost like, it's almost like you're performing the song even to yourself. - Oh, for sure. - Yeah. - And like wanting it to be a reality. - So just even if people do know, I think it's like, it's not a bad thing, it's a great thing. It's like a really additive layer to it. - Yeah. - I don't know, it just makes it even more comfortable. - Yeah. Well, and I say that, I probably wouldn't ever told that story, but I say that because it's really a testament of who she was as a person as well. That's what I mean, like, she was so helpful and beautiful as a human and was talking to me as a human and wasn't worried at all about the song or like the performance. She was like, it was just on a human level. She was such a kind individual. And I think that a lot of bad ways get set about people and gossip, you know, the bad stuff always gets set more than the good. And so it's like, no, she was an amazing musician and songwriter and a pioneer for women in the industry for sure, all of those things. But like, I mean, for sure, just an amazing human to live up to. - Yeah. - Yeah, also, you know, there's so much talk right now about how, you know, she was the most beloved American and everyone could agree on her. But the thing is, I feel like when people say that, they're forgetting, she also was a very outspoken person. And she, you knew what she believed in and she believed in children's literacy and she believed that like, people should be kind and she was a fierce advocate for queer people and LGBTQ+ rights. And, you know, so this but you always knew she was heart-forward. I feel like you share that with her. - Well, and I feel like with her too, people forget like, I mean, we're young for this, but like, I think it was a little heart-forward in the beginning too. She was doing a lot of things with people weren't doing, like, and not even just standing up, making physical things. - Absolutely. - She'd be very honest about it. She'd be like, I know people make fun of me. Like, she was very just open and vulnerable and I think that's what was so attractive about it. - Yeah. - She wasn't pretending to be anything other than - Yeah, exactly what she was. - She was like one of those people that's like, "No, I've not had no work done." - Right. - Exactly. - Like, okay. - At the time, like, was revolutionary. - No, that's what I'm saying. It was very bold. But I don't think she was meaning to be bold. I think that's just how she came out. - Yeah. - You know, like, talking with her, it's like, I just think that's who you are. - And she's funny. - Like, I don't think she was trying to, like, - No, no. - Me, Brave, or Bold, or whatever. - With her too, it's like, you make it, it's very clear when you watch her, like, humor was also armor for her. She was like, I'm gonna make a joke there. Like, it takes a lot of money to look this cheap. Like, it's better. Like, I'm gonna say the thing about me before you can. - Yeah. - And that I have the power. It's playground bully mentality. You didn't make something yourself before the other one can. I gotta beat you to it. - Yeah. - But the thing I'll never forget, and like, you know, that Barbara Walters interview kept circulating when she passed. But like, when I watched, like, back in college. - I didn't see that one, what? - Oh, she's just, you know, Barbara Walters. Like, you don't have to dress in all these ridiculous efforts. You don't have to have the wig. You don't have to do all these things. Like, why don't you just present yourself as a songwriter and she goes, oh, well, she goes, I know that fame is a money-making joke and I just do this 'cause I like it. And she goes, I'm sure of myself. I'm sure of my talent. - Yeah. - And I'm like, that's all it has to be for her. - Yeah. - I'm like, oh, that's all it has to be for anybody. You just have to be sure of your, of what you have to, to give. - And I think that's the thing too. Like, running into people in the industry that are, we've all worked with them. They can be insecure. And it's like, insecurity is such a cancer for a room. Like, it's like, it'll just kill us. It's like, oh, like, don't do that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, be confident in your gifts. Be confident with what you have. Like, be bold. Like, that's, it's, 'cause when you have people like that and you're around that kind of legend and it's like, well, they're a breach of it because they're so confident in their skin and they're confident in their talent. And they're not afraid to say that person did a good job because it lessens what they do. Like, I feel like a lot of people can be so insecure. It's like, oh, if I give them flowers, that means I get less. And it's like, what? I just feel like you're right. Or like, now I'm owed something for having been kind. It's like, you know what I mean? Like, those people that are just like, you can tell it's all a little bit transactional. Of course. Yeah. Oh. I love that. I love that. Just anyone. They're all, I mean, it's just so funny. It's just like, when you get into the industry, you realize, like, good leadership is actually really kind of rare. Like, it's like, it's like anything though, you know? But I usually feel, I mean, do you find that most people that, our good leaders don't want to be. - That's actually a really good point. - They don't want to be. Like it's like a little-- - 'Cause they know they-- - They put in that situation. It's like, I don't really want to do this. Like you know what I'm saying? It's like, I feel like most people that I look to and I'm like, oh, they're good. It wasn't because they like wanted to be. They just kind of are. - Yeah. - Like service made them go forward and like, I am going to be the person to deliver this message. Only I can do it. - Yeah, well that's a narcissist. - Yes, only I. - Yeah, really, truly. - These people, they are out there. They're crawling. - I just get away from them. - It's okay though, you know what, I, it'll, I don't, I think getting older too, like with stuff like that, especially talking to my kids, like 'cause they're, you know, they're harder ages once in middle school and it's like, hey buddy, like it'll find them. - It'll find them. - It'll find them. - Don't worry about it. Like you do you and if somebody's pinned that out there, don't, don't even worry about it. Like they're, first of all, they're movie sucks 'cause they're focused on yours. Like they're life sucks. Like it's like if their life was awesome, they wouldn't be so worried about what you're doing. - Yeah. - Like it's like, so just, yeah, I was like, just stay the course and like it'll, don't be mad that it's, 'cause sometimes my daughter can be like, the injustice really gets to her. And it's like, I get that and yes, there is a point to where, depending on the situation, but like, as well, like don't worry about that and do you, it'll find them. It'll, it'll, what you put out there will come back. So be careful, which you put out there. - You're right, it does. - The best way to go about it is just to understand that you can't control other people's actions. - Yeah, and that's what a freedom. - I know. - To know, like I don't have to take it's enough to worry about your own front porch. - There you go. - You know what's like one thing that I feel like I learned in the last year that has been really, really easy is just remember how people make you feel. You know what I mean, like just clock it. If someone is making you feel a consistent way. - Yeah. - That's not something to ignore. It's like, even if they're not meaning to do it, it's like how you feel there's something there. - And it doesn't make them bad or wrong, it just makes it not what you're needing right now. - No, it's not what I meant to do, yeah. And it's just, it's also like, it's your energy. It's your feelings. I think I thought for a long time like, oh, I have to have this person in my life because they're in my life. And then I think when you get a little bit older and your time means more, your energy means more. You get a little wiser. - You get a little wiser and you get a little bit more economical with your own time. Where it's like, I don't have the time to have the same, you know, conversation with you that we've had for 15 years. - Yeah. - Yeah, no I'm not. - Because of the podcast, this is the same conversation we've had. - No, keep asking the same question. What was the culture that you say culture is for you? - Over it. - No, I do get it because like I think we can all get stuck sometimes and if you don't have those friends that can be like, you need to get unstuck. We need to, we need to work through that. You know, if they're not doing, it's just such a vibe kill. - Yeah, of course. - Well speaking of vibe kill, we're about to do a positive vibe kill. - Okay. - This is, I don't think so honey. - Okay. - And this is our moment. - I love to. - Just sort of rant real and we'll, oh you have a bullet prepared one tonight. - I do. - Oh my God, I was so thrilled. - Incredible. - And it's a controversial one, I don't care. - That's fine. The controversy is, I hope this gets clicked. - Yeah. - I don't think a lot of people have a lot of thoughts on it, but yeah, okay. - Can we see this jacket actually before? 'Cause I think it's actually really cute. It's a iced tea on the back. - Okay, so this is Carrie. - Sure, the honey iced tea. - It's for whole lot of. - Whole lot of, oh, a lot of woman. - But it's also in, I'm a whole lot of woman. So Carrie, Carrie, Wes who worked at Atlantic Records, she worked the record with me and she had it made. - I love it. - But yes, it does. - It does say shit. - Which is, it's a double win. - Double win. - Yeah, I love it. - I'm gonna go first. - Okay, so honey, our 60 second low rant segment. - I can't wait. - You know, you know. - I'm ready. - This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. I don't think so. - It's like the time thing. It stresses me out. - I don't think so honey, lower back. I feel you're getting different. And here's the thing. Just started engaging with kettlebells. We're not gonna fight about this lower back. We're gonna do the things we need to do. We're gonna engage or what I'm told is my whole lower body and it's gonna change everything. Lower back. I feel like, I don't think so honey in the mornings when I can't feel you. - Oh. - It's not that it's in pain. It's just like, can I feel it? Lower back. You are the hardest thing to stretch. It is very uncomfortable to try to stretch you because when I am going to stretch my back, the back stretches I do know. That's sort of like, I mean, I can feel it a little bit, but again, it's never exactly right. If do you feel me on this? - 15 seconds. It's just, it's incredibly hard to engage in a way where you're worried and it incredibly, no, it's incredibly easy to engage in a way where you're worried after. But incredibly hard to engage with it in a way where like, mm, now I feel better. And I don't want another addiction. Like if I start taking pain meds for it, don't do it. - Don't do it at all. - Because already I self-medicate with the marijuana and I'm calling myself in. Gotta stop doing that. Gonna go to the weed celters. - Oh, we'll see. - That's still a THC addiction. - That's what I see. Enabling attitude on my part, but I'm gonna figure my life out. First, lower back, you gotta help me. - And that's one minute. - Thank you. - 30 seconds. - Whoa, did I really go that over? - That's okay. I let you have the floor. You can't hit another addiction 'cause he's not really giving up the weed. He's just taking it. He's, you're giving up smoking. - So I have to go on tour in December. - 'Cause he's singing. - You're no quitter, yeah. - No, I'm not no quitter. - No, and now it's at the point where I'm like, okay, like it's now like the synthetic marijuana that they make is so, I used to just be a good old fashion, you know, or a dairy stoner. And now it's like the weed that they make that they sell truly on the street, legal, is like you know it's, oh, this is not weed, it's chronic. - Then you keep saying. - That's what I'm saying. It's not marijuana. It's a tray record. - It's a tray record. - It's literally, it's the chronic. It's not okay, anyways. - I think, yeah, you know what's actually interesting? I thought my lower back issues were very unique to me because I have no torso. Meanwhile, you're all torso. - Way long. - And it does, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't lengthwise, your lower back's gonna fuck you. - I wanna check in on you. - I'm older than y'all though, so hold on. Have you ever been at a really long dinner? You're out with friends. - Sure. - You've served past three hours. This is not a normal dinner. - Get me out of there. - It's not a normal dinner, but you've had fun. Nobody even realizes it's been through. It's one of those dinner. - Oh, it's nice. - But then you get up and you're like, what the fuck? - Yeah. (laughing) - Remember what you could do? - I'm back right now. How was I? - Yeah. - What was, what happened? - Yeah. - In a chair. - You were in a seated position. In one position is so long, you're maybe crammed into a booth. And then all of a sudden you're like, how does everything for my lower back now and hurt right now? Like what is happening right now? - What did I do? - What did I do? - What I didn't do anything. And that was the problem. I was stiff too long. - This is a little personal, but was it crazy back-style stuff when you were with child? - I honestly remember nothing from pregnancy except for wanting to my life. I, it was the worst experience in my life. - It was the whole time. - I was vomiting and just the worst experience of my life. - I'm not one of those people that's like, "It's magical." - No, it's been good. - I mean, congratulations for you. But it can just be that. - It was the worst experience of my life. And I thought it couldn't get worse. And then I got pregnant again. And it turns out it can get worse. - The second time was worse. - The second time was, I was hospitalized both. Like I don't remember anything except for just the horror film. - I'm so sorry. - Oh my God. - I started bringing up, I just thought in terms of the back pain, I'm like, well that's the ultimate final boss. - I mean, it's just weird though when you get, yeah, you stand up and you're like, what? I remember you on top shows at the time you were pregnant and you fully were like, I'm gonna throw up. - Oh. - You were like telling the host, like, I'm gonna throw up. - Oh, I, and it wasn't a joke. Like I remember being on L, I had to come on L, I was, I literally was saying no to everything. And then piece by piece, that whole performance, whatever. And they were like, can you please just do L and they'll let you, look, you can barf right before you go out and write it. And I was like, are you shitting me? And I was like, fine, whatever. So I literally barfed in a trash can, right? As I'm like walking out, go on, leave barf. Like it was just, what? - And then you have to use your vocal cords. - Yeah, which is so fun. - Something's wrong there where like the amenity is, you can barf wherever you want. - Yeah. - As long as you show up, we just want to make sure you're comfortable. - That's like the way we can give you, like not when you're pregnant, like when you're struggling or whatever, like we can pump you with steroids. I'm like, oh my god, that sounds like such a good time. - Thank you for the beginning. - So I can be crazy. - Yeah. - 'Cause like the other thing about that is like, yeah, maybe your voice will be better, but then you have to speak in between. And you're on like, - And those are horrible for you. It's only for a severe situation. - Of course. - And like, what, like, yeah, give me this error, but is there like someone who can like, suck it out of my bloodstream afterwards. - Oh my god. - Sorry. - How was your hip, by the way? - Oh my hip is fine. I'm getting PT. I fell on it for a marion, a problem. It's worth it. - Okay. Let's get me on. I've got something. - What's your nose? - Okay. - What's yours? - I think mine might be controversial too. - Certified Broadway star. - Stop. - Bowen Yang. Has Adam think so, honey? - Well, it starts now. - I don't think so, honey. Gum. Why did we ever invent the thing in the first place? If it can't be digested within seven years, why are we putting it anywhere near our mouths? It's not like corn, where it passes. glasses through yet, but it was really worth it. It tasted pretty good. Gum, I don't even know if it's doing anything for the breath. It's certainly, I don't know. Now I have to learn what xylitol is, just because of this thing that should not exist. It is a freak of science. It is an anomaly of human invention. We did not need it. Mints did us just fine, breath sprays did us just fine. We don't need this thing to chew on unless you think, "Oh, but what about the oral fixation?" I've got a tooth pick, put anything else in your mouth. Chew on some cudd. It doesn't have to be gum. It doesn't have to be, I don't know. I just kind of, it's, you know, chocolate cudd. I just feel like a rural thing. But I don't know, it's real gum. Gum is no longer necessary. It has been obsolete since its inception. That is one minute and six seconds. Also a TMJ nightmare. TMJ nightmare. I can't chew gum because-- You have TMJ? Yes. Oh my god. Not you, it's just tension. This happened. Yeah, how much I moved my mouth? Are you fucking? (laughing) Never shut up. No, it happens, like, it hasn't happened in a while. But I have been singing on stage, and my jaw will lock. And I, you'll see me look down, and I have to release it that way, or it'll get stuck. Oh, shit. Shit. Oh, yeah. Horrible person. It's really bad. I know. It's him. What do we do? Yeah. I have a-- yeah. I've got an under bite. It's like, it's just not totally-- you know what I mean? It's an under bite. It's not like, fall on under it, but it's like, it's getting there. I have like a-- yeah, you can-- yeah. Get this. Went to the dance with the other day? They go. Veneers. No. That me, too. And I go. I don't know. I don't know. Then they started to-- It was like that situation where like-- Did they try and convince you that it's different now? They're like, it's different now. She tried to convince me that she was the one-- No. Only I can fix it. It's a good. She said, she said, this is what I do. I do veneers. Not like everyone else. Not like other girls. And I was very like, OK. And then I went back. And I was like, maybe I'll just do a vizeline. Neither of you, unless there's like an underline issue. Neither of you, please. Don't get you don't need it. No. Well, the reason is they-- because I love tea and coffee. Yes. Oh, sure. Very porous teeth. Ah. So she was like, well, and she was like, if you're wanting I was like, well, I'm not. I didn't ask for-- I'll just take what they are. Like, that's fine. Yeah, this is good with me. I'm doing all right. And I don't like to mess with like anything nose or mouth or anything near my core, anything related that my interfere. Yeah. Because I have interviewed people that have had veneers. And there's a slight list sometimes. Not all the time, but sometimes. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Have you ever interviewed someone before and after they've had a lot of work? And you're like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. And you have to stare directly at their eyes and make sure nothing goes anywhere. You can't look anywhere else. You know, it's worse though, is when women would come on. And I'm like, I am one of those people. I'm like, you should wear what you want to wear. Be free, whatever. My kids are embarrassed to me. I could live naked and be fine. I'm like, I don't do that. OK, nobody take my children away. I'm like, just like around my house naked. But I'm very comfortable in my skin. So I'm like, I am down, whatever everybody wants to be. But when you sit down for an interview and your tautas are just out, it's hard not to look. Oh, absolutely. It's hard not to look. I'm not even-- Yeah, I'm not even checking you out. But it's just like, well, they're on display. And they look nice. You glance. And unless you're a dolly who loved it when people locked her boobs, it's tough. You don't know where people are at with their breasts. I know, and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. It's just like, but they're there, and they're out. And it's not like-- The line of my eyes are up here. It's like, well, your boobs are also out right there. They're right there. And they look great. Yeah, they look good. And you know, congratulations. And well, I try to not-- But yeah, when you're interview, you're like, OK, don't look anywhere else but the eyeballs. Yes, I had a hard time with that. Yes. It's tough for the ADHD girls like us. We just want to, you know, I'm sorry. And I just looked at yours. I'm so sorry. [LAUGHTER] Did you bring your phone? [LAUGHTER] OK. Are you ready? I don't think so, honey. Yeah, yes. OK, so this is Kelly Clarkson's. I don't think so, honey, her time for now. Controversial, I don't care. Here's the thing. I love AI. There are very amazing things with AI that I am obsessed with. But also, and I'm very into it artistically, too. I have fun with it, just like everybody else does. When you see AI artists competing on a chart with humans, I have an issue. Yeah. I think there should be a separate chart. I think it's welcome. I think it's welcome to the table. I think it's really cool and creative, what we're going to create with AI and musically. And people that maybe can't do certain things will be able to do it now. And then you'll get to, I think it's a fun field, like to play it. 30 seconds. But I don't think that they should be competing with humans. I do. Like, it's like basically like having Olympics. And then you're having like people that like robots can be human. Like, well, who's going to throw further? Oh, I wonder. 15 seconds. So I think it's, I'm down with it. And I think it's a very interesting thing. And what we're going to do with it is going to be fun. But I do not think they should be competing. And that's one minute. I didn't know they were on the same charts. Apparently, they are. Well, they actually, did you see that crazy interview that she and I did with Tilly Norwood? And then she started speaking in actress. She started speaking Cantonese in the middle of the year. What do you mean? So they interviewed-- This not a real person? An actress who basically like CNN interviewed as if she was real. This was absurd. And they basically were like, Tilly, like, do you have dreams of being nominated for an Oscar? And then she said something like, do you have dreams? You could have stopped there. Then she goes, she goes, she was, they were asking her like, what do you think when someone says something like, you're not a real actress or something? And she goes, well, yeah, that's stung a bit. I'm like, you're not real. And then-- It is, but isn't it kind of fun to watch? I don't know. Well, it's crazy to watch because in the mid-- You can see this part, did you? What part? Oh, she started speaking-- She started speaking Cantonese in the middle of the interview out of nowhere. And then, and then Piers Morgan and this other guy are both like, Tilly, you just started speaking Chinese out of nowhere. What happened? And she goes, sorry about that. It happens sometimes with me. And you're like, this is a joke. And because it's stung a bit. It's stung a bit. Here's the thing though, it's not going anywhere. No, that's the point. It's not going anywhere, but I just think it shouldn't. I think it is interesting and there's so many amazing scientific things that are happening. I think I don't think it's going anywhere. But I think that you have to be able to differentiate between, we can't lose human. You can't lose what that is. And there will always be an appetite for that. But there can be an appetite for both is what I'm saying. I just didn't realize that we're both on the same chart, which is, that is crazy. Now I feel like, I feel like somebody just showed me that. No, no, I'm sure you're right. I'm sure you're right. I feel like somebody, yeah. And I was like, okay, I don't mind them being on chart, but I feel like there should be separate ones because that's not, well, listen, it's just a human. It shouldn't come at the expense of a human achievement. Because to chart as an artist is a huge deal. And when you see that you are some, even to take one spot on a chart away from a human artist that can, you know, my concerns with it are broadly safety, which now, because now they're saying things like, you know, even the AI heads of these companies are like, we need to be regulated, like just letting everyone know we do need to be regulated. And the government obviously, you know, Trump is not going to regulate it because he wants to be China. He created something yesterday or today. He was like, all right, maybe, but yeah, anyway. - The race. - The race, the race might get. - Yeah, but anyway, yeah. - And then also like, I do think in terms of human artistic opportunity, I don't, I think it's really important that we separate. - Oh yeah. - Because there's also a level of it though, too, that humans are using it to create as well. So that's why I'm not against, I don't want to, I don't want to be like, oh, I'm hardcore against, I'm just hardcore against it, replacing. I think that there needs to be, both can, I think both can exist. I think everybody's so like black and white about it. And it's like, or both can be creative in a completely different way, you know? - Well, I mean, and the fact is, this is another part of it, which is the fact that they've been using it for a longer time than I think. - I mean, even if you want to include people using auto-tune, look, that's not, you know what I'm saying? That's altering it, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's been going on for a minute. I think people tend to separate it as like, oh, well, there's like data center sort of like usage. And it is like completely recursive or it's just amassing all of these different artistic outputs from like history. And that's like the main difference. But sure, it's like, it is this thing where it's like, well, then like where do you draw the line? But yeah, I mean, I, that is, I guess I tend to, I've switched over to Apple Music because I feel like Spotify does sort of like, try to sneak in the AI stuff in their algorithms. And I'm like, I'm good on that. And so, but it's just, it is weird that it's like all the same. - That's only thing for me. Yeah, I did, it's all, I think all of it can be creative. But it's just like, you have to have, like you said, the regulation of like respect and like also room. There's room for everything and you can't lose like the human element. I think that would be a shame. - Absolutely. - Well, it would be the death of, if we lose the human element of it, it's like. Well, then the robot's wine. But then again, I mean, there are those, I don't, I should leave that alone. No, you, you beat the robot's by seeing golden. No, I just mean that, but there is that thing that you said it's been happening for a while. There are those artists you see live and you're like, this doesn't sound like the record. Oh, you are. That's really not what of music. It's like, it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, no, I mean, I think, well, I'll tell you, I think one of them is getting it pretty hard. But once again, though, it's like, it's how you consider the art. It's like, are you looking at, as a vocalist, are you looking at, as an art, an artistic thing? Are you looking at it? Like, how are you, you know, that's where I'm like, um, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we solved it. We solved it. We have no problem. You're welcome. From now on, it's separate. It should be separate. Um, well, is there anything you want to tell us about like, I don't know, when the music could come, or like, what's the deal? We're working on it right now, um, but yeah, like I said, there's three, there's kind of three different things going on right now. Yeah. So, um, you're throwing us off the sand by saying there's three things. Well, you didn't really talk about the third thing. Well, there's, well, so we're coming up on 25 years, which is interesting. Sure are. It's so interesting. And then, and then, and then there's something that the fans have been waiting for for years. Yeah. That is, uh, maybe in the works. It's interesting. And then there's like, uh, I'm telling you what, like, it's in the, it's in the pop realm. But it's, it's very different from anything I've ever vocally done that we're working on for another single because it's quiet. It's, it's, yeah, it's, it's not, it's not just quiet. It's more like if you were like, you know, having a conversation with someone on the phone, it's like more like, it's interesting. It's just different. It's a different approach where I was like, do I love this? Like this is not my vibe, generally, but, and, and that's like, yeah, so much time to explore things like that. And that's the thing, too. Yeah. We're playing, you know, and that's why whenever people are like, oh, you're playing stage coach, you're going country. And I'm like, I'm never going to just go one way, because I remember actually whenever I did release a country single years ago, and Vince Gill was cool enough to be honest, called don't rush. And, but they, I pretty much was told to my face by the people that are at the station. They're like, unless you quit pop music, we're not going to play you on country. And it was like, and I was just like, oh, well, I'm not going to do that. If somebody told me to never sing country music, because I would never do that either. I was like, I'm never going to just like, like, I don't want to be limited. That's boring. We get one life. Like, I want to do whatever I want to do. It's a Miley Cyrus. You can't be tamed. You can't be tamed. You can't be tamed. She has a new song. She's sure in a whole album. Yeah. The bass persuades. I have only heard the one song. Is it all out yet? Or did you? I like it. I think it's going to be out soon. The album is out. Oh, it's out. Yeah. Are you all seeing any live shows? I'm seeing Raila Maintain and Harry Styles coming out. Oh, my God. Harry Styles. You did. So good. I'm going enough here. He is. So you just watch him and you're like, I love him. You just sit there and wave. You know what? I just saw that you would have loved and you would have loved. The Daisy Chain Fields Festival that Olivia Rodrigo did. No. I didn't know about that. It was like Lilith Verkin back. Oh. So she did a whole festival. She programmed a whole festival. She had Dolcey Chapel Rhone that Olivia came out and she brought out Sarah McLaughlin. She had a lot of sports. She had a lot of sports at and Stevie Nicks. Well, she was like, I'm just going to bring out every goddess. She's ever. She's influenced us. Yeah. Have you listened to her album? You seem pretty sad for a girl so in love. Are you talking about Olivia? Yes. Oh, yeah. I know. I like my back. Actually, both my kids. Not just my daughter. Yeah. My kids and I love her. She's fabulous album. Yeah. They're showing us that you have to go. So we love you. We thank you so much for coming. I love you. I love you. This is my one day I'm working. Oh, fabulous. That's my one day they got me in hair and makeup. Oh, my God. It was fun. I know. I haven't talked to her ever. I know. Well, you always welcome back. And you honestly, that mug. I know. I know. I drink all my. I drink. Here it does. Yes. Okay. It's just coffee. Watch the voice. Where is it? The voice. Season 30. You're better. My team is good. Hey, Latifa. You're on burn notice. But I love her. I know. She's the best. I love her. She's such an incredible singer that people don't realize. Such a good singer. An actor and rapper. Like all the things just now. She said, how do you think Thanksgiving, right? What? She said Thanksgiving. Queen Latifa. Latifa? At the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. Oh, I don't know that she said hi to me. Oh, my God. We met years ago at a press junket for the secret life of bees. I thought for a minute that like you had Thanksgiving with her and forgot. And did you say hi to her Thanksgiving dinner? I don't know. Of course. Let's do something you would remember. Of course. Let's do much for Dana. Dana. Dana. Okay. In honor of her. You and I, T.Y. In honor of her. In honor of her. We end every episode with a song. Oh, my God. And you're good. To mama. To mama. Mama. It's good. To mama. It's good. To mama. To mama. 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