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Clima Electoral T2 E17: ¿Qué papel juegan los militares cuando una democracia empieza a erosionarse?

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Clima Electoral T2 E17: ¿Qué papel juegan los militares cuando una democracia empieza a erosionarse?

This podcast transcription features a lively, informal conversation between two hosts and a guest, focused on entertainment rather than serious advice. The main discussion revolves around "running plays" – strategic approaches to talking to women in social settings like malls or restaurants. One host criticizes the other's tactics, such as the "bump and switch" or pretending to be shy and confident, arguing they are obvious or ineffective. The conversation becomes personal when a host shares a story about his girlfriend catching him leave a seemingly innocent comment ("old school music is always a vibe") on social media, which she interpreted as a flirtatious move. This leads to a broader debate about being perceived as "thirsty" and how partners can quickly identify patterns of behavior. The hosts joke about defending themselves when accused, with one noting he becomes defensive and exaggerates his innocence. The tone is playful and self-deprecating, with music interludes and references to New Jersey and New York City. The overall theme is humorous introspection about dating strategies, relationship dynamics, and the absurdity of trying to maintain a cool image when close friends or partners see through it. The podcast emphasizes it is for entertainment only and not to be taken seriously.

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The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing revealing and dieting Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at all. We are trained professionals Do not have your best interests at heart or are all Enjoy the show Not kids you didn't used to coach. Are you crazy? I'm telling you yeah nuts, huh? You're bad rally them? No, let's think it's bad No What is Yeah, you are crazy, so this guy is yo everything does not the moon stars and sun don't revolve around you We feel me we're feeling oh, yeah, why do you think that why do you think that the moon sun and star? Why do you think I'm as yet because I'm saying you learned something from me? I don't you take credit for everything I did not learn that from you. I didn't learn how to be charismatic in hospital I never said that please don't put words in my mouth because you are charismatic on your own Yo, those are not what I'm talking about the traits that we are to talking about audience we talk about setting up the play Because I don't want to just talk without you. We talking about hey, hey if you know you know We talking about setting up the play what I'm saying is my friend. We ain't gonna stay on this I want to laugh at this thing about some I don't even know we got here dog how I get it is I remember so listen to this. This is what we talking about so if if if Because the funny thing is I don't holla right right, but I'll tell somebody else. Yo, you see I ain't got time for the rigging and rolling I want to just say what the fuck look I'll tell some my like you could do this this Something nice is in that motherfucking demons. Let's get that get to it Something nice is in that name and I told Joe He wouldn't like this and wanted a New Jersey mall right and he says but then it's gonna look like I went there specifically I miss not what I said I said if you because I'm too in love So what I said was if you go stop playing tough yo now we got exactly what I said Because I'm a word Smith I said if you not you but in general go to that Neemons at that more it will be painfully obvious you are there to speak to a young lady. That's not true I'm just saying what I said. Oh, yeah, yeah, and I told you what you said that is gonna say and I said that's not true Because you know people my boy said to play up for me. Yeah, I said yo, you know people there so you are not for me But to me yo, you know somebody there or a person know somebody there I'm coming to say how do your person sure? It's like I'm a bad chick workout a restaurant and you know somebody else at the restaurant Your goal might be to go see the bad chick and let her see you But I'm coming to see my nigga parks that just bartend sure sure and I just so happen to be there on the Thursday night When shorty is working that what a quicky day And then I'm saying I was proud of my man for drawing that place so fast Because when we used to hang out and it would be time to run a play He would be dumbfounded looking stupid in the face like yo How are we gonna tell we gonna back that girl from her do I don't believe that not for bitch Yo me issues to be out trying to Before all of that shit it should be like yo, how are we gonna do that her dude is right there And I used to set up the play so to hear him set up plays now I'm like my boy is the air exposter to do this nigga's cabin booker You wouldn't know he survived on that because nobody was there, but me and him and I got such a horrible reputation That's got to stop happening listen to this marble reputation set up a play for Joe if Joe is vocal and goals at the target I don't have to set up a play for Joe. I don't he don't need no he can ISO. I'm not talking about ish You keep trying to he can ISO he keep trying to confuse the audience we not talking about Your any one's ability to speak to a girl. No, that's not what's in question. So what you talking about we talking about when the situation calls For a play to be ran. That's what we talking about not the same Anybody can talk to a girl All right, cool, but we talking about running a play with this when it's a little more complicated He knows he's gonna own what time you know the old bump and switch he bum bum bum bum. Excuse me for me like we don't we know your tricks We know your trick old bump and we do know his tricks. I don't know. We know his tricks That's my man. I go In a quincey you see you you try to bump and switch bump and switch you bump somebody a switch I got you you tried to pick a roll Yes, you try to act like you are this quiet guy with so much confidence in the world I don't talk to that's your play that I don't talk to people, but I'm full of confidence is your play and Hatch we see right through it and hashtag the restaurant That's it. We go your trick. You gonna read the hashtag of the restaurant, huh? It makes a lot of sense Hey, don't we got you it does It's really quiet. I mean don't don't like the hot If you tell him he'll get no bitches. Hi, yeah, you'll get no girls because you quiet. You stand a girls you saw he gets super Yo, you're in quating somebody being quiet to somebody Skater girls they don't quarterly Me being me being bashful and shy don't correlate to me not getting no bitches. How do you get to because they told you right whatever the game is to stay quiet We're confident you know the company you're talking to them That's not game because a lot of women don't like that that backfire is more than you think it works a lot of girls don't like Shot niggas niggas you 30 something years old and you still shy sit your dumbass down telling you what you don't work I'm telling you that's how you put on how you put on how you put on You learn to bag girls when they with a man don't do that We don't he write it on the paper. We don't wait there was that one time no right then they don't tell the story We got back that girl I knew the girl for the niggas came to the house And this is the reason I got mad at that because I didn't bag that girl I didn't say more than five words to that girl But how is it to them maybe seem like I was shooting at this niggas girlfriend and that's why I got man We have a good time I'm my bad yo, I'm sorry if I painted this nigga like he was trying to bag that girl he was trying to bag Because I should have done it down to get the beat so he's right Well, listen all I'm saying is Joe button podcast male fans out there if you with your girl He's a fan of the show be safe do not run up to him and say oh Hey, my girl is here and she's a huge fan of the show But don't do that I'm in her right up. Yeah, don't do that don't dare to be it to be a different mean green Brooklyn chop-outs Yeah, Joe but Joe button podcast fans. Oh, if you're all out in the belt and your girl is over 175 and taking the thighs don't go to the bathroom When you come back to your table it just might be these magical drinks and a steak on your table. Oh Different I'm gonna pre-order them off. Fuck you. She's already be ready Gold dripping on your steak. Yeah, I can't even afford a time of hot nigga. I even don't know no Indian Watch watch that new desi banks get nigga with like that's how it's just you know said your girl get around them She may get a little bit Who you nigga you ain't no owl you too fat to sit on the porch You've never seen my thank you mom. Thank you everybody show my my thing with you is that listen stop acting like you got it like that I don't have like that and then when you go home wifey checking you that's what it is All this Come nigga we know nigga give me the brewery. Corey. Give me the mop. What you gonna so close? I'm acting like you got it like that from now on Don't talk that big dick shit. We're the niggas you so off you scared I'm gonna leave me to a no This thing is just cop the plea about your dog [MUSIC] [INAUDIBLE] >> You're in a new business, other content. >> Point. >> I mean, I got a little bit of play to get with you boy. >> I promise. >> It has the strap on it today. >> I'm not, did you get your own one? >> He got a two-time fight back. >> He is fighting back. >> He is a water gun. He don't run his house. >> They got to start bowling in a minute. >> Flip. >> I bet you won't say I run my house. >> I run my house. >> Undequivocably. >> I run my house home. >> But you sat here and start. >> I got it. >> You got it. >> Yeah. >> You got poor release that footage. You will be up under the bed. >> I'm releasing it. >> I'm running my house. >> I don't do no tricks. >> This is a slow spread. >> You got a check in during a lunch break during a chicken nuggets break during the mother fucker bathroom break. I'm checking. >> She know what it is. >> Unequivocally. >> I speak. >> I'm sitting here speaking. I don't know what the fuck he's doing. >> He bit too. >> I ain't joking on you. >> I get you too. >> I don't want no smoke. >> Huh. >> I'm my own business. >> Cuz you. >> What? >> Shit. >> But before you shoot a boy, he really wants you to this. >> He was. >> He was. >> It was it. >> It was. >> It was. >> It was. >> It was. >> It was. >> It was. >> I put the pee in the morning. >> He was just talking fast. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> But I know you want to shoot it more. >> I know you want to see it more. >> I know. >> I know. >> Let me tell you what he does, y'all. >> The nigga will be just silently researching some shit. >> Yep. >> And he'll get something that he thinks is just a home run and help put his pocket. And if you come in and be like, hey, you flip what's up? If you're with something a little too strong, yo, nigga, I'm ready. >> What's up? >> I'm just in my pocket. I'll hit you out. >> Like, yo, you just be looking. That's cool. >> You're waiting. >> Yeah. >> I think it's important to include it for me because we have to talk to sure. I think it's important and I do respect the fact that you are the man in your household. >> I just know that sometimes. >> Let me just finish. I just know sometimes you come in with different tones and tunes. In one minute, you singing that out, the next day, you're surprised. Like, it'd be different, like. >> They're not that far apart. >> What the fuck? >> What's with the phone? >> What's with the phone one? >> Tender at least. >> Tender, you got all of them. >> Outtone a tender by nigga. >> Okay, go from out. >> You think you're gonna be surprised. >> You think it's cool. >> So that's cool. >> I write. >> All right. >> Eddie hit you with some music knowledge. Take that. >> The music podcast. >> You hide me in man? >> Music out. >> You want me to sing that song? >> That's what man. >> You want you in that park show? >> What's up? >> I got to the same thing. >> I can go. >> Just say my pretty. >> No. >> You're the first. >> You started when that was -- >> You're actually helping my man down on that. >> They did. >> I wanted more. >> Okay. >> I wanted more. >> They killing us for holding them down. >> But they stupid. >> Are they? >> Yes, they on the internet talking about some joke. >> I'm not going to do that. or whatever was just lust and after fucking some flavor flavor and I don't think flavors are unattractive do it when he's sober. - I'm sorry. - But lust and after somebody that you just thought was a done-ton-ton. - You would, well wait. - And it was out of your change. - That's the same old you said. - If you lust and do it I'm like, but that hairline is fake and that's an implant. - Oh my girl lusting after the finest nigger I'm gonna still feel the same way. Ain't like I'm gonna give her a pass 'cause she lust and over the fly and then go first. - The lust and then nigger. - But for lust and we be in dramatic. I'm talking about just about fire mode you understand this. - Publicly, publicly. - But anyway, I'm fearing off of what my main fight was. - My main fight was, so I break the little no-comic rules sometimes with one person maybe. But is it the same person every time? - According to her. - It's the same person. - Nigger. - According to her. - I'm sure they got breakfast. - It's like a workout girl. Like I was a boy. - You think that's better? - That's not making it better. - That's what you said. That's better than I'm gonna be. - But anyway, to pull up and push up, Nigger. - Right. - That's tough. - Anyway, so they be playing like fly music in the pitch. - Yeah, I mean. - You guys, surely you have some music. - So I, so they wanna, - Oh, that's my show. - Right, because I'm not doing all that. - All right. - This mix is fire. - No, it's more of my day. - I've heard that blend before the time. - All right. - No, it's okay, you may pump it up, Nigger. - Ayo dog, no. - No, it's the coming. - You are the nigger that'll be like girl, what you know about that? - 100%. - Yo. - You ain't up on that whole school. - What'd you say, Nigger? - I didn't do the nigger rule. - So, - Mums go maybe. I said something like, (laughing) - Obviously some dumbass shit. - You know what, some dumbass shit. - No, it was a comment I left it with on about my day and never thought twice about ages ago. - You were telling us the comment. - Aaches ago. - What's the thing? - Tell us the problem. - The comment was something like, what does I say? - Ooh, old school music is always a vibe. (cheering) - You're fucking junk. - Yeah, I'm junk. - Yeah. - That's a local game. - That is about, that is about. - That is about, that's about it. - Yo, that's old. - Yeah. - You don't know nothing about this, yo. - You don't know nothing about this. - I'm trying to get that. - Wait, wait, wait. - Wait, wait, wait. - It's a bullshit. - I can promise you, I wasn't running the plane. I really just like the song. The song, "Choiced", it was good to hear. Last week I'm hanging up the phone with my girl. She said, "Oh, and one last thing before we came." You said, "You better stop leaving the fucking comments that you think I'm not seeing because you're trying to get your flirt on and I know you." So, you're a little old school music line that you're trying to run. (laughing) - You can get that shit to fuck out. - And if I see it one more time, that's your ass. I said, "You fucking moron." You look dumb as hell and you're thirsty. - Yeah, she got you, she got you. - She got me. - So then I stood on, that's not flirting. - Blu-Man, she's like, "I know you like the back of my hand." - I seen oil and she's getting the oil from that phone. - Yes, you have flirt. - You said the same shit to her probably 10 years ago. - Right, but you know what the f- - I just made one of full of music. - I mean, laughing in her. - Girl got me dead to right. - You're an idiot, right? - Ooh. - Old school music. - Always a vibe. - Always a vibe. - Nigger, you a John fuck that girl. (laughing) - All she had to do was hit you back. - No, and I wasn't. And I wasn't. - Wasn't? - 'Cause then I turned into an issue on a two. 'Cause then I turned into an issue on a 'cause you play like, "Yeah, I see, and it's telling me what the it turned into an issue entails." - This is the thing. In a minute, it ain't gonna be no intro music. This is the thing. - I'm sure you got some more. - If you're a girl that's seen you being a vibe. - It's a vibe. - If you're a girl. (laughing) - If your girl has seen you being what they would deem, that guy brain, what they would deem as thirsty or, you know. - In appropriate. - Mm-hmm. - Once or twice or maybe seen one join of yours that don't fit with the rest of the roster. They start talking to you like, that's just your character. Like you thirsty. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. You thirsty as, think and look at you. Look at you, no, no, no. - In fairness, if you caught your girl doing some dumb ass shit like that, you would be on her ass too, 'cause I would. - So if my girlfriend say some dumb ass shit like that, when I say I turn into an issue, like, yeah, I bet you do. And you do. And you do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Well, if you were at the DMs, you seen the dub. Then stop fucking playing, you call me thirsty again. Stop playing, you have no idea how many I do. (imitating dog barking) Yeah, yeah, at the poppin' on. Yeah, I pop it. How'd it go? - You wasn't that round for sure. - I'm lost though. (laughing) - This is the ice cream. - I was on my fight in the thirsty accusation. - Okay, that's what. - She had me dead to write. - Yeah, yeah. - They done. - Go ahead and play some, some, some vibes. - That's good question. - What? - How does that, what kind of juice? That's what I would do. - When somebody questions your, - Yeah. - Your own, your own, your own. - You were a monster. - You stay a monster. - Very fast, yo. - Do y'all know why I am? You know the fuck I do, you know that. You do that a lot. - Like a lot. - I did that with Sean Ian. - Yes. - For God's sake. - You just, get your memory together. - Yes. - You don't drink some, you don't drink. - Well, more than once. - You did that because, that was a long episode. - I'm sure this. - Yeah, it was a lot. - You just, though. - Yeah, you don't talk. - I remember you follow, you know what I am. - Yeah, you do. - I do this, I do this, nigga. - You did it when I sat down. - He really just, he really just be talking to a money. - Yes. (laughing) - I'm talking to you, that's my man. - He just be really letting a money, though. - That's my man. - Hey, dog, if you just chill out, I'm gonna throw it back in the water. - Oh, okay, shit. - Yeah, okay, that's it. - If you just, if you just be cool. - All right, all right. - Surely you guys, I know you guys, I'm letting you eat. - I'm letting you eat. - Why do you think it's dope that? - They don't understand sometimes, you throw that. - Right. - All right, we ain't doing that to my nigga, nah, that's that was cool. - 'Cause you know, he let him eat sometimes, so you know what I mean? - Oh, man, I'm not trying to eat. - I just do. - His play is full. - I just do. - You try to eat a lot. - You go right behind the nigga, too. - No. - All right, I'm gonna play. - All right, you're the time. - I'm gonna eat a little bit. - I'm gonna play as a host, dude. - He's just playing as a host, dude. - He's like the lady in a tramp. (laughing) - What's the thing with that? - How fuck you up today, yo? - That was quite a thing. - Oh my God, you lucky. - You lucky. - You lucky. - You lucky. - Oh, faithful black men and parks. (laughing) (upbeat music) - Yeah, this is such a vibe. (laughing) - You wanna get in trouble for playing this shit? (laughing) - You wanna just fix the neck? (laughing) - Hey baby, hey baby, hey baby, he had me dead, Dora. - You got me, you got me. Sort of gonna put this right in her work, I'll play this in the phone with you. - When you write, you write. It really wasn't good news ago, sir. Whatever. (laughing) (laughing) (upbeat music) (humming) - Do your best. - Make check, make check, what you want to, so happy to be here. So glad you could join us. - Here you go. (upbeat music) (humming) (humming) - Hey, Bo, could you pass me this water right here please? Thank you very much. (humming) (humming) (humming) - Hey, here we go, here we go. (humming) (humming) (humming) (humming) (humming) (humming) - Whole New Jersey, New York City without back then. (humming) Shout through the subgroups to Patronis out there. Hey. (humming) (humming) - Hmm. It's always a vibe man. (laughing) Come on man, was I wrong? But was I wrong? (laughing) (humming) (humming) (humming) - I'm not so dirty. (humming) (humming) (humming) (humming) (humming) (humming) (humming) - What happened? - Mocky, Mocky you were troll of me. They got a little comments and shit. I try to support you. - You hit the new fucking way. - Oh, 'cause you was looking for a team of accountability member. (laughing) Whatever the fuck you called it. Flip is looking for new people to add to flip the network. - Nah, stop it. - Send your resume. - That's it. (humming) (laughing) - Uh, low jump pic. - Exactly. - You know what I mean? Mark got a brand new episode and it's staying together out there on his Patreon. I signed up to that. - Yes sir. - It's came out with some new colorways for the hood of you know the fucking vibes. Stop playing. Hit him or S. We gonna get these things right to your doorstep, nigga. (laughing) Hey, wait a minute. (humming) We've got every exclusive. Marathon color that's never been so Man Me of these drops right quick It's the net one Whatever so does this 923 welcome the episode 923 of the Joe button podcast. I'm your humble healthy happy grateful Extremely uh extremely delighted to be here host Joe button here But if you really amazing people to my right Queens get the money Queens flippers in the building to his right our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building to his right mr. Thousand doors and up our good brother issues here to his right Love the color way on the kicks and odyssey absolutely smoke that freeze good good brother freezes in the building next to him Big parks is in the building You think we've done a white village Forgot some white pepperless nigga always said He has not playing with Cory Eric sent his 18 receive on a hit by remote last but certainly not least each and every one of you very important people out there Are here shout to the hate listeners this episode is brought to you by fueled by power by price pigs price pigs gang Okay, what we doing when it's a year-old I get that I'll be trying to read through it like you Hey, they fucking up. Hey, my son of a real were you do that right? Do it? The price is Put it because parks me holding you that's why I love you. I got to see why the white privilege coming in Look buddy buddy You just take a while you be seeing it too, but it's a really why scare you know It scared me because just nigga here you on bullshit If anybody probably watch is that nigga he probably watch more than me so it's scared me because I don't know if You know we losing some bread. I don't know what it is nigga. You guys are my shit. I want my shit to stay the same We are oh No, you know, you know You know that we don't do If is anybody to know you know You know 11 months of fucking living higher in accountability members When you're here come we just come up Just come talk to me We're in good standers with price weeks. Yeah, we know price we are all way to the good Good You look good y'all look refreshing. Yeah, I apologize to you brothers for it to just how out of it. I was the other day I'm not in it this one mark you're gonna worry about me. I'm chilling I remember this had bonus. No, he said remember that voters. Oh, I don't he said remember that vote I'm not in it this month. Yeah bonus How many bonuses y'all's Oh my god, how you know? We can come in man, you know we excited everybody excited man. It's nice outside today We're excited man happy to be happy to be at work Let's work we don't want to start Well, you say rested. I didn't get as much rest as I wanted because I went to see Michael Jackson last night So did I You're a guest. Yeah, what's it? That was not in my b-hats. Oh, it was you be hasted. No different theaters. Okay, different otherwise it be Yeah, it would be okay. Yeah a lot. I mean show Well, so I was Joe Joe went on a group check first of all remember it The last episode with Joe buttons said I'm not going to see that shit. I have no interest in it shit I'll see it on DVD. I took that to mean Navly that that man he wasn't going to see crazy me turns out he goes for all of us. Yeah, no Okay, what money don't count he's a super fan and he like I expect him I he loves Michael Jackson. He might be in it Um, so I started going to group chat like yo, I've seen the movie and you have your thoughts on it And I said why and then I heard you say you saw it and you said you were going to see that's a fuck I'm gonna go see the so I think we gonna talk about I want to be only my fucking I see the group chat and encourage my brothers to go see this movie right yes, yeah, Antoine Fouqua Great black uh black director black excellence. I encourage my entire group chat to go see this film. It's a fact Okay, so when do we get our money backs? Well, let me start let me start. Let me start cuz I have a different technique. You saw it first. Yeah, not just that I didn't hate this movie to where everybody else did all right I absolutely enjoyed the movie now. I want to start. I'm not the super Michael Jackson fan I didn't watch every doc in all of this shit. So I did stuff that I learned in this movie that I didn't know I don't watch documentaries. I don't do all of that shit. Oh, I'm shit This is from the common fan who just saw the movie What did I learn? I did not know that I didn't know nothing about Don King being involved with that shit Okay, I didn't know that the final tour that he did with his brothers He basically just did that as a gift to them like you know, I'm not fucking. Don't know what you're gonna take that I did it No, I didn't know much about Michael Jackson. I knew the music bro I just I'm saying and I saw the the Jackson I went to Japan. We just from again. I watched the Jackson American dream, but with what I make a he's Jamaican. Yeah, he has to make Yes, I'm have to make okay But yeah, I'm not I'm not story doc maker. Oh good No, I'm not saying I'm just telling you from my first Thing every time I ask that question that I'm on bullshit. I do Everything But it's not a bullshit statement the niggas from the islands just being their own vibe and No You try to be a no matter what you say That was that was my take it was just like I enjoyed you do what he wanted to go on to over his brothers Yeah, but know it all you know about music right after thriller No, I'm what I'm saying is that I didn't realize that pop like the theme of this story of this movie I know before I went to go see it that it only covered a certain part of my life It wasn't the four. I saw a lot of people mad at that like it ended too early I knew it only went up to a certain point. We surprised to know this dad was rough on him And I do that. I don't know you don't it's cool. I'm like you talk. He was really intense You know those were real gang members and be Now I Went in part of it was because of Joe if you like it hurry up with it Get out my way I'm gonna get my shit working on this So I'll you In I didn't read the reviews but I knew of them and I knew the right like to write to middle rankings and all that stuff And so I was like um this is gonna be This is gonna be terrible, but I didn't know exactly why it would be terrible So I went in and I didn't read the reviews. I didn't want to have too much influence. Mm-hmm I went in with a certain expectation and I was actually some present I got waiting for the shoot to drop for it to be awful There were some scenes that I thought there was some there was some scenes right With the gang members monkeys there was a few things where I was like this is too much But I went in in general expected with a low expectation. I walked out like, yeah, I'm enjoying this Oh, it's good. Oh wait. I'm enjoying this music. Oh, I like this story because I didn't go in [BLANK_AUDIO] (laughing) - Let me tell you what, let me tell you what, thank you, Flip. I'm on the edge. - You don't need to tell me why you enjoy Michael Jackson music? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - You're just like a movie story. - This story is a movie. - I didn't, I'm a, I wouldn't know on a decent amount about Michael Jackson, so I didn't come in expecting to learn anything. I felt inspired by the story of like independence and him growing to do his own thing, he's shaking off his dad all that shit. - That was the thing, that's what I was trying to say. That was the, you could tell the film the movie was. - Shake your nose, man. - If it was, if this joint, I'm gonna say, if this was on Netflix, or if this was maybe even on a network, we'd be praising it, right? I think because it's a cinematic release, the expectation was higher, but just as it entertained in movie, I thought the kid did a good job playing Michael Jackson, which I didn't expect, I thought the costume was a makeup video. - Make up with it as in "Who's Your Far?" - Your far, I thought your far did a good job. I thought the costume was a makeup with solid. There were some mistakes, like, you know, with the wrong hairstyle for the wrong year. - Little, little, little, little, little, little, - Little nerd mistakes. - But I thought the shit was, honestly, I expected to be, I thought I was gonna come here giving it a C minus, and I would give it a B. - Oh really? - I would stick with the C for me personally. I thought it was, it was entertaining, it was entertaining, but it was, it was, I guess kind of cheesy, maybe? - Yes. - It was a little cheesy. It felt like it could have easily have lived on Hulu or Netflix. - That's what I'm talking about. - With a nicer budget, 'cause it looked expensive. - Yeah. - But. - Tooby. - Plus, nah. - I'm not gonna be able to do that. - Well, for Red's Dicks. - Yeah. - No, no, no, no. - I don't know. - It's gonna be an imagined thing. - I thought it was, I didn't like the way that they obsessed on all those very strange shit about Michael, which I get you have to address it, I guess on some level, like the surgeries and the Vidalago and all that shit. - Yeah. - But they dwelled on it in a weird way to me, where they didn't really talk about his artistry enough for me, I think. - Right. - It was like sensationalized artistry, which he's a pop star, so that part should be kind of like left unsaid, but he was more than that. - Yeah. - And they didn't really tap into that for me. - That's true. - And that's part of why this movie was absolute trash for me, but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. - There were some funny shit. - Like I told you all, I was the only person in that theater howling laughing from the unsaid. - I was laughing. Not from the unsaid, what's the monkey came in the movie? - That's what I was talking about. - I was like, "Oh, sorry." - Well, because the movie starts, this is Michael, first of all, this is Michael Jackson. This is him. - Yes. - The movie starts with a really bad vocal of a Michael Jackson song. It was almost like hurt my ears whoever that was singing that. - Yeah, that was just on the opening. Got me, I'm already laughing. - This is all right. - It's about when they were in the living room practicing? - Before the movie even starts. - Yeah. - I guess that's what that was. - He's singing in the living room. - That was a bad one. - I was so that was intentional to show like, "Oh, he became great." - So it's hard when you say it's perfect pitching, he's a natural, I can't imagine Michael ever sound of that bad. - Yeah, I'm sure he did, everyone does at some point, but, - Yes. - Carry on, sorry. - So they open up with them singing in the living room, and Jafar did a great job, even though, well, he did a great job, and he looks a little like Michael, because he's your main son. - He's right. - Yeah. - And that made me look at Jafar weird, because I feel like Jamey wanted to be Michael. So now he'll go, "Your son trying to be Michael, and you executive produced all this shit, and you executive produced the other one that we love, though it the one that came out in '92. - American dream. - The American dream. He was on that. - Why'd Jamey know he's on the back end to say all this, they were all listed as EPs on this. - Yeah, it was, - They only addressed like Jamey and Dressed it the premiere. But anyway, young Michael Jackson, six-year-old Michael Jackson, was he six, seven, five, whatever. - What a guy, whatever. - Who casted that little motherfucker? Who the fuck casted him? He looked like, that nigga looked like my own, the brother when we was young. He looked like young Peter Gunn's. He looked like, he didn't look like, young Michael Jackson to me number one. He didn't move like him, he didn't sound like him, he didn't act like him. He was atrocious through the first 45 minutes of this movie. - In fairness, I thought even Jafar didn't move like Mike, but nobody moves like that. - Yeah, I mean, no, no. - So like, it's a little, no, no, no, no, this nigga didn't move like a Mike impersonator in time, Squid and Lil Young, six-year-old Mike. He was atrocious, sorry. I know he's a kid. He was bad. Hey, do you know, hey, whoever casted this, do you know why Jason Weaver played young Michael Jackson before? Come on. Jason Weaver. - Go really sing. - Go really move. - Michael Jackson was a, - Fiedem. - Ish, - Child Pondigy. - I suit you, did I? - That was a good one. - Michael Jackson was, so for this little kid, that he was an absolute sh*t show. - I disagree. - That little, you was gonna disagree, but you already gave your opinion. - I am my opinion. That little nigga, I'm stoned. - Squid as an actor or just the performance parts. As whatever they asked him to do. - I was thinking, I thought, - His acting wasn't bad. - He was, - Oh please. - He was, I agree with you on the music part, but there was a lot of tenders sh*t there. Like when he was hugging Barry Gordy, when he was, like all of a sudden, this is him wanting his dad and having that weird talk. - Oh, that was one of my favorite parts to laugh at. - You're a terrible guy. - That was one of my favorite parts to laugh at. - I kind of understand. - That was my favorite parts to laugh at. - Fucking monsters. - It's a word. - Yo. This movie didn't do nothing. Like if you were ice or somebody that didn't know much about Michael Jackson going into this movie, you don't know nothing about Michael Jackson still. Michael Jackson is, Krimdella Krim. And this movie didn't present him that way. It didn't tell a story. It didn't say just how, it didn't tell you that people was f*cking all around the world. - They're new to crowds, did they put on whatever Hulu said that they was in that they built. - It wasn't that, it wasn't never gonna look like what Michael Jackson was out here doing. - Their story telling, they didn't tell any stories. - The story tells. - They didn't tell one thing. - They wanted to talk, please. - Let me just talk, please. - The stories, they had moments in Mike's life that they wanted to highlight. So it went from 68, you're young and the Jackson five, we working and we doing talent shows. The very next time it jumps to 78 or some shit, you wanna be starting something is out. No, no, no, no. And then they jumped from that to the nose, John. They just popped up and they ain't in front of the mirror. What bandages are those nose? Wait, no. - I was the most. - These are things you, two hours. - Two hours, two hours. - Two hours and seven minutes. - It was two hours. These are things that you can't quickly just gloss over. They just fast forwarded through this whole shit. If this were a musical, then I don't have no beef. - I will also say too, in regards to the Vidal I Go, the nose job, all that stuff. It didn't really, it just said that it happened and it didn't really discuss enough for me why it happened. You know what I'm saying? - I see, I, I see something. - I'm going to go back to the other hour, should a movie. - Then it goes to the movie too long. - Not if it's good. - Not if it's good. - Not if it's good. - They just want really bitch. - If it's good, they're talking about it. - They're talking about it being a part too, too. - My girl went to Zee last night and came out there. I think it was maybe a part too, I laughed a little hard. - Oh, I like that too. - You put it in, it feels like you're just setting your foot apart. - New way. - And if you live through this shit, you don't fucking care about it. - Bro, every, cuz they, cuz, - They take my hold on, hold on. How, how, we talking about a, there's a crop of people that don't, that didn't live through this shit. That's in the 20s. A lot of people. Like, there's a lot of people, you heard Michael Jackson, you don't really know the Michael Jackson. - He's like just watch a ray. - But to Joe's point though, - That's the thing. - Even if you 20 something years old, and you heard of Michael Jackson, then you don't know the story, when you walk out the movie there, - This didn't do it. - You still don't know the story. - This, you don't know his name. - Yeah, can I just finish slamming this shit before you all come home with what you all love? - Lorenz Tate was in this movie for six minutes. - Yeah. - Oh, that's generous. There was a portion of his movie where I thought the script had to be maybe 22 pages with the words. That was good to see. - Yeah. - That was, it was just music singing, singing quick, quick scene. Jump cut to a year, music, music, music. - Yeah, Lorenz Tate was playing Barry Gordy. Check this out. I don't never wanna see Barry Gordy not be 75 years old. (laughing) - I ain't gonna hold you. - What are you doing? - When I hear the name Barry Gordy and I see him in the movie, don't show me him, young. - Fucks it up. - What the hell, stick his head. - I don't care. - We got you, we got your champ. - Bubbles. - This is a good guy. - The CGI Bubbles. - He brought his whole family out to look at. That Bubbles was a mess. The giraffe CGI, all the CGI movie. - Yeah, it was pretty bad. - The CGI was horrible. - My favorite, my biggest laugh in the movie was they're in the studio and they showed Quincy at the board and I was like, "Damn, they show Bruce Sweden who's this legendary engineer who did all of his shit." But then they showed him and I was like, "Oh shit, Bruce Sweden, that's dope." They included him. They say his name, which is a little disrespectful, but whatever. But then they continued to zoom out. And Bubbles said the fucking board. I fucking holler. - Yes, I know you were a business dad. - What? - That was a mess. - Why is Bubbles at the board? - That's an engineer in the shit though. - He can't even fake. - He told it out there. - And then you can't really appreciate my greatness without knowing. I watched this movie and was laughing at. They cut out every time Joe Jackson. about to get his band. They cut it right out. - Joe. - They cut it right out. I don't know what the fuck story is. It's part of Mike's grade. - What? - It's part of every part Mark told him how he escaped from his dad. When did he do that in the movie? - That hit the dead hell. - Yeah, here man. Every turn. Remember when his dad just popped out after-- (laughing) - That's shit out of me. - Yeah, I'm standing right there holding the paper. - So wait, I'll just go frame this. - He's pointing to his arm. - Pointing to your arm. - Another one. - Just standing there. - He's not telling truth. - Standing there and not helping. Just not doing nothing. Hey, in the beginning of the movie, when Mike fucked that song up, they cut it out. But Joe beat the dog shit out of Michael Jackson when he fucked that part. (laughing) Hey, they show him, give a little palp out. He won. He cleaned that house up with that young Michael Jackson. - I kind of thought about the guy. - Yo, when they told him he was-- - Yeah, moving in a booth. - You can see the look. - He's making a move. - Yeah, man. - I kind of thought the day was-- - He was going to move the beat. - Wait, and then he got turned to Barry Gordon. He and then hanging out with Barry Gordon. - Think of Joe Jackson looking like, where is my-- He's talking Barry. I love you. Thanks for everything. - You can ask me anytime. - Oh, and what he turned around? Oh wait, Barry Gordon almost got him fucked up. - So, Michael, wait. - Michael, wait. - You know anything you need me. - I said up, they cut it out. - You right here. - Joe Jackson. - He got the son of a gun of hole. - And Joe Jackson cleaned that whole way. - The switch. - The switch. - That was a young Michael fucking. - He did. - I thought they were pretty nice on Joe Jackson honestly. - Wait, Mike was so out with-- - He went to the leg boys and-- - Hey. - I need Joe. - I'm fired now. - And he was looking like-- - Yeah, I'm fired now. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, who? - Who? - Who? - Boy, when Joe got that facts. - You know. - When Joe got that facts, hey, they cut it out the movie. (laughing) - Clean some off. - But when-- - And they kicked you. - And they kicked you. - But when he got his hands on Mike-- - He cleaned the fucking house with Michael Jackson. Hey, good to see you. Mike overcame so much and they didn't show it. - Phil, could you see it? The nigga held the facts in his hand for a good eight hours. (laughing) - Every see you in different places. (laughing) - Son was up, son was down. (laughing) - Oh, he saw him, he was like-- - What kind of sudden does this-- - I was gonna frame this. (laughing) - You gonna fire me. - You fired me through facts? You couldn't even say it on my face? - No, I need my face. - I couldn't believe-- (laughing) - I couldn't believe I was laughing so hard in this movie just knowing that they invited real Jackson's to watch this. Then the stupid movie come on, they wanna keep showing me Latoya. (laughing) - Well, it's Jan. - Jan, it's dead. - And it's dead, fuck y'all. - If you don't remove me and my image and likeness from this cluster fuck the jaw got going on. So now we gotta act like Michael Latoya was tight. See, I wouldn't know because-- - I don't know. - Some of the story they told, Diana Ross called them expediently, hey, remove anything that Diana Ross had in this movie. Don't y'all put it, you better not. Don't put no Diana. - Don't put a Diana, you're gonna be the same dumb. - Don't put no Diana, don't put no Diana. - Don't put no Diana, Carol, that's gross. - Don't put Ross from friends, don't put nothing. - Rick Ross. - Rick Ross. - Rick Ross. (laughing) - Really? - What's the reason you think? I don't, 'cause they saw it. (laughing) 'Cause they saw it. - This didn't tell them for sure. - Don't know real person wanna be associated with this fucking relationship. - And like I said, again, it does seem like there was a thing with this movie, it wasn't to tell Michael's story, it was more so to tell. This was to just show Michael's coming of age and finally becoming my own person and getting from under my father. - Yeah. - That's what it seemed like. - That was the reason. - That was the purpose of the movie. - Not the gang members. - The gang members in Beated. - That scene was. - I thought there was one show I'm joining the Crips right then too. - That was the thing that the fans, Michael Jackson was a Cripp. - He was. - And he went to the hood and got real gang members to be in the vicinity. So they tried to show that using Hulu gang members. (laughing) - It's like idiot, bro. - The niggas looked like, (laughing) - You know the main nigger that they had that was doing the dance with the mustache? They went and got Torres from New York undercover to beat that nigger. Like these looked like the gay, - Torres was the one. - No, he wasn't a racist. - No, it wasn't really Torres. This guy, I'm saying, it was like the lugs version of Torres. (laughing) - He was actually two. - These gang members. - Joe hated this movie because his print shot. In the movie? - Yeah. - What was the print shot? - It was like, don't let prints get it. - Oh yeah, he did. - That's what it was. - He did, he did. - He did throw that shot at me. - He threw it a little shot at me. - No, that was a big up. - No. - No, it wasn't set as a big up. - You tell my, they just told my song, right? - Yeah. - And he said, don't let prints get that song. - He said it, he said it, - I can't remember the exact line. - I don't fuck with him, I don't get it. - No, he said it like, I can't get that shit. - I don't fuck with him and he's the biggest nigger out there. Please don't let him get that. - That's my sentence, fuck. - Yeah, I think it like that. - He stayed at Motel. - He wanted to be a Motel. - He said, he stayed there. - He said, he stayed there and we're on epic. Yo, casual fans, I promise y'all. - Joe Jackson, I say that. - Nobody looked for Jim Allen Jackson when this tour was being organized, yo. - That's not true. - Not one, not a soul. - You see what that was, you see what he told me? - Not, not, not, not, just a time. - I like this idea. - Is Michael going to be there? - Yeah, I mean that's the main part. - Because without this, all I should you talk and go out the window. - I don't even like how they burnt Mike's hair in the fuck it. This was just like a, if you know Michael Jackson story, which I do, this is like a spoof slap in the face to the real nigga that he was. - Yeah. - It was the most service level shit I ever seen with. - Yes, it wasn't deep. - It was a money graph. - It wasn't deep. - It looks like a money graph. - I agree with Paris. - But Mike's story is deep. - Yeah, that, Mike's story is one of the deepest. - That's why I say when you walk into any segment of his story is deep. - Word. - This is like the Times Square 2000 version of Michael Jackson story. - But I guess I'm saying that's what I want to say. - This is the Marshall version of, this is it. - There's some stuff missing, but I think when I see a family make a film about somebody whose life is complicated and messy and interesting and brilliant, I always expected to look like that. So I guess I just, my expectations were so managed. - And it's coming in as well. - Is it possible that the family protected Joe? - Yes, if I look at, that's what you're saying. - Yeah, a little bit. - I mean, the story is said all kinds of shit about Joe's and that stuff wasn't in there. So, you know, I mean, all kinds of shit. - 'Cause I know you were saying like they didn't really, they cut out, they didn't really show how Joe was on his ass. And if the family has the say so and this, it's like, we don't want that part out there that bad. - Yeah, and that might have been a tug of war between the different siblings. And that might have been part of what Janet did, one of your part of it. I don't want to speculate about Janet so much, but I know they all have very different experiences with Joe. And I've seen LaToya saying she's told me directly, like some of her experiences with Joe and some of her allegations. And then I've heard Michael say things I've talked to Marlon, he said different things. And so I think they wanted to just show, look, this dude was rough. - And clearly, you said, - I'm gonna go and go. - But we're not gonna go into all these different questions. - 'Cause not right now. - And the movie is not about, it's not about that person. But see, I thought some of it was, some of the stuff that y'all think was basic, I thought was subtle. When he first started, as you said, cleaning the house with Mike, he also called him big nose. - Yeah. - And so calling him big nose, to me was like, okay, this shit is deep in my head that I can't see. - I'm wrong, I got this nose. - Right, so by the time he's at the doctor saying, why I needed to be symmetrical, it's showing the delusion that he has. And then when Joe walks up to him and he says, it's for my septum. It's like, they're showing Michael has a self-hate. And he's constantly trying to convince the world that there's a real reason for it. And the nose keeps getting smaller and there's always a new excuse for it. The nose strip that came on around an hour and a half. So to me, it wasn't that they didn't deal with it, they just expected a lot. They expected a little bit more of the viewer, which I'm okay with, but to your points, you shouldn't expect that much from the viewer if you're gonna do a A&E lifetime style movie. You gotta kind of pick your struggle here. But I thought they hit that. I didn't like, I wanted more of the creative stuff. There was such a creative tension between Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson from off the wall to Bad in terms of the tug of war of who was gonna have most control over it. None of that was there 'cause Quincy just disappeared. - He was a CC, I don't know none of that. It was more of a tension between Barry Gordy and Quincy and Michael and Quincy, which I thought was weird. - Yeah. - Giving, I mean Quincy said, - It was weird. - It was weird. That was weird to me. There were things like that that I didn't like. But again, I didn't expect it much. - Go see this movie is what we're saying. - I was entertained, I will say that. - I was. - I was. - As was I. And Lizzie, I laughed half way through because I was laughing them all earlier, but as the music is playing, 'cause I went hoping to walk out. I did walk out, but I walked out when he started doing the robot during human nature at the end. So it was the end. But that's my point. That was your breaking point. Enough was enough at this point. 'Cause I saw, this is not, I think. (laughing) But in the movie, I'm like, I wanted to walk out soon, but this music is so good that - It's Michael Jackson here. - You're in great costume. Walk out on Michael Jackson music. It was pretty cool the way they motifized his hits into like the score. You know, saying, "I broke up little pieces of the melody." That was, that was the- - I thought that was really dope. And again, I thought there were some tender moments. I thought young Michael Jackson, I was really compelled by that. Like watching him look funny. - He ain't getting another acting gig. - She is. - You won't see him again. - He might not get another. - Well, the end of the month. - If we ain't seeing Jonathan Major, they'd been not put this little raggedy kid. - One of the fuck. - Hey, that gave me a back-up. - That gave me a back-up. - I thought he did it. - No, the shout-out to the young man in real life. - I actually thought he did a great job. - But as Michael Jackson, we could put him in the suit with the Ninja Turtles. - He won't be Mike no more. - We could put him in the suit. - I mean, he didn't body it. You know what I mean? In terms of the performance aspects. But again, I thought he tapped into something that's hard to tap into as a young kid in terms of the emotions and shit like that. When Michael, I felt that kid looking for something. I felt that kid looking for love, looking for a father. Though that hugged egg egg very good. - And Mark Lothas out, man. - That shit was one of the most beautiful things I saw in the movie. Honestly, that hugged egg very good. In his studio was real. I could feel that. Like I just thought they did a good job. And even when Michael came back as the bigger Michael and he was trying to get them to play Twister. - Yo, fan, that was another one. - I was like, I was like, I was like, no, he was playing Twister with bubbles. - Okay, that's his ridiculous. - Oh, you're cheating. You can't do that. - That was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. - But anyway, shout-out to everybody in the film. Shout out to Coleman Domingo, who did it. - Who did it? - He was great. - He was great. - He was great. - He's an actor. - He did the great job. - And New Day better, put a real actor around the young Jackson kids. - And if y'all wanna keep supporting film, whether you love it or hate it or in the middle, just support this film, go out and check it out, 'cause we can't get more films made if we don't go out and support it. - That's true. That's right. - Yeah, that was the greatest news I got going in the movie theater, is that eye pick is not closing and forgley. Hey, McIlloral's eyes, make some noise. (applause) - Make some noise. - Make some noise. - You threw some bread down? - No, no, no, but someone did. - I got New Daywood. - You should have. - I got New Daywood. - No, I'm not. - How many seats did you buy? - She, yesterday? - Yeah. - Six. - How many people went with you? - No, my. - Just make, make you choose right now. - You're playing your part. - Yeah, just as a joke boy, six seats, just to make sure no one was sitting here. - And still sad next to somebody. - Did you? - I started out. - I started next to someone that I saw some seats open. It was like, yeah. - Yeah, I picked that thing. - Because it was the smaller theater. So that means that the two seats I'm always in over here, like was just over here, and I bought the center ones, and that was in the center. But it only let me buy the fucking, it was the mess I sat in the center, and some dogs sat next to me. - I had, yeah. I saw it in the hood, so I was, I was, I was, I was people. - And it wasn't, though. - Something that could just kept getting up to do shit for was queen. (laughing) - I'm dirty. - I'm dirty. - This thing was so considerate, though. - Came back, she had popcorn and ate. - Oh my god, my god. - Oh my god. (laughing) - Goopers. - Yo, stop saying that you see me do that. - You never did that. - Oh, anyways. - Oh, time to pay some bills. It's time for my favorite part of the show. - Price. - Price. - Your phone was on 6%. - It was on 1%. - Living dangerous. - Your phone was on 1%. - Yeah, at noon. - Yeah. - I should do that a lot. - Yeah. - I didn't get the charges overnight. - You don't plug it in the car? - You don't plug your phone in? - I took a Uber here. - The question still remains to see. - What about you? - I didn't have no access to one in this particular Uber. - We're about to go to work. - I home. - Normally at night I charge, but last night I, I forget. - Yeah, I was out so late watching this movie for work that I didn't get a chance to do it. - So you said your phone was dying too? - Often. - Yeah. - This thing is calling always dark. It's phone, dark, mid combo, and you won't call you back. That's just it. - I don't be charging my shit on the phone. - Yeah. - You see, hey, Tommy, see me, will you say, yo, let me get your charger? I feel like that's another one of those things that men can't do. Your phone shouldn't hit below 10%. - I also don't like that. - Unless you're at home. I love how she go dead at home. - Yeah, let it die. - At home you do what you want. - Why are you doing that? - So tell you that, let it die, right? (laughing) - Yeah, let it die sometimes. - I know. - So now, let's have a little bit. - You try to say you make sure you don't get no phone calls you don't want. - Yeah. - So I get phone calls during the pop. - I have, listen. Listen, tomato tomato, I don't know. When you get phone calls. - That's not what they put. - Never. - Stop doing it if you're a man. - No, what that means. - It's a tag, we don't know. - I'm a tomato. - Flip side when you shoot a joke. - It's the right tag, Zim. - Flip you to your armor, his side. - Look, that felt weak. You need to make a help to help. - I wanna help you. - You are a captain, palm palm. - It's just a coincidence. - I'm helping, I'm a help, right? But that's the, - You said that's the way I helped him. - I just throw him in, don't you feel weak that you have the plan on this nigga that come in his A.V. - Hold on, hold on. - I mean, I should've come. - Mark always jumping and saying, "It's definitely an earth fight, man." - Look at you trying to push an average of T.F. launches. I know, it's cool. - I don't need one of them from now. - So what was happening before Mark? - I just got here. - What? - What was happening before Mark? - When I was, Erin, everybody all was, "I didn't talk to you, I didn't know you thought the earth was flat before Mark, guys. - I didn't know you thought the earth was flat before Mark, guys. - You know how, I didn't need no help before Mark got here. We wasn't talking about flat earth. - We talked about anything else. - And I love you a lot more than Mark. So when you be saying stupid shit, I'm a little rock nigga. You my man. Mark wanted fucking, but then he felt bad. So now he catered to you like one of Sally Struv's kids for 69 cent a month. - Again, again, pushing your nervous. - You take care of your man. - You're a rift since. You had a tip since. - Mark got argued over capitalism and every other thing since then. - I love that. - He was a gentle debate. - I'm ready. - I'm ready for you. - You all way around. - We'll look at Mark, like you're nigga. We'll end this nigga. - I don't ask Kiss. - I'm gonna tell you what. - Say it again. - We'll end this nigga. - I will end this nigga. - I'll ask Kiss. - That's your nigga's up here. - Tell me. - Say it again. - I'll go. - I'll me. - I hold my own against anybody. - We know how y'all sat here for five hours quiet against Umar. - I know I said it again. - I know why you say nothing. - I said it again. - I was watching that as a viewer. - I thought you were left. - You're a man I want to see him. - Well all our girls were on that about. - Exactly. - Yeah. - We talked about way more than that. - We talked for five hours. - He was coming at you for a drink. - It wasn't white girl for five hours. - Yeah, I was on that. - No, but it's okay. - Fuck it's your talk about it. - I don't need no help. - I'm talking to three. - You don't even want to get him off your chair. - Relax nigga. - Relax. - You have no nick name. - I can take that. - You get a pass. - We on mark. - I can take that. - You need a plea de skirt. - I can take that. - I can take that. - I can take that. - I can take that. - I can take that. - I can take that. - See the difference between you and the I nigga. - I really shoot at everybody boy. I don't need a baller gun to ask Mark for permission to shoot. - I mean I should call you. - You look at it. - I'm gonna fight all the time. - I'm gonna fight you. - I need you at the bottom. - I don't talk to that freeze. He's your advisor. - You can't shoot him. I gave you a doctor. He didn't gave you a foot specialist. He didn't give you a foot specialist. - You don't have to much. - That's your man. - I ain't getting nothing but a foot mark. - You couldn't even walk. - You could even walk. Wasn't a boot before Mark gave you the black shoe specialist. - He always referring to people. - Look at you. - Yeah, we are boss. We sick. - I can't see you. - He said that. - Oh, that's something that you do all the time. - No, he didn't. - You were the one who said that. - I heard him say it though. - Look, I heard him say it. - You gonna get Mark killed today. - No, I'm not. - Mark, you gonna get Mark killed today. - Tell me. - If you ain't gonna do that, if you're boss. - Give me some balls. - I was from Jango, I said. - Who the hell is that thing going that neck? - You know what is going on? - This is what H.D. - Who is that? - I low-key think that he intimidated this Mark nigga. - Doug, you just echo everything joke. - You wanna intimidate him. - Mark or Mark intimidated me. - I was telling what I mean. - Okay. - But H.D. is that once Mark moved out here in Jersey and because it's got a lot of connects, Mark means it's approval. So what H.D. is like, yo, make an ease of me on the part that makes you good outside. It's the whole trick that looks to each other to watch the makers. It's weird. - You make something out of that. - Who's shit? - You. - You. - Call him up. - Don't argue me on a pie. I'ma make sure you can walk around free. - Right. - They got picks. - You be good at Starbucks. - I'm gonna wear it. The fuck did you talk about it? - You be good at suburban. - You got to stay cool that you with. - Why don't you get your own thoughts, man? - Yo, I'ma make sure that my audience don't give shit. - Fuck you, talk about it. - He's niggas one and a possible. - Oh, yes, yes, yes. - Joe, you just say whatever he's saying. - He's saying, I'ma call these niggas one and a half. - Oh, that was funny. - That was funny. - Listen, the regular season is all wrapped up and the NBA playoffs are finally. - No, I'm so tight at the. And the NBA playoffs are finally here. And there's no better way to cash in on a high-flying hoop section than price. picks, a preferred partner of the NBA. Every bucket, every dime, and every win means more when you're playing on price picks. 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Dante, D even Denzo for more than 15 and a half points in assists and the legend himself, Devon Booker for more than nine and a half rebounds and assists. Don't forget if you download price picks right this very second and use promo code JVP. You get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on price picks. The official partner of the NBA. Nice. That was a rough game last night. I thought it was great. We were talking about the hearts. Yeah. I love that game. What? I've ruined for the next. Okay. Yeah. I don't. I used to be indifferent but now I have to be it up here. I hate to fuck off. Nix and six. Nix and six. Last time I had to say that there was playing the Pacis last year in the playoffs. The game, the game, the other night, fuck you Mark. The game, the other night. Didn't make me feel very good. Which one? Game two. Okay. I mean, I'm waiting. Three in two. Game three. I'm sorry. Game three in Atlanta the other night. They don't bite her. Not to me. Yo, dog. Not to me. I told you what I had to do. Nix didn't even deserve to come back in that game. The mix. I agree. The mix look like shit. Mike Brown is getting completely outcoached by Dan Quinn of all fucking people. They're good. Don't say it like that. Come in. Come in. Come in. Go is putting on a fucking clinic. CJ is prime Kobe now. Yeah, he's bugging. No, I think the coming of thing is something that you're gonna have to say. I'm gonna have to say something that you're gonna have to say something that you're gonna have to say. I'm gonna have to say something that you're gonna have to say. and they went to the Western conference finals and him and Dame would crazy just the Warriors. He still, I'm still at CJ McCullum. - For sure. - He's the problem. - And I loved that he did the whole, I'm not a villain, I'm a family man I married with two kids. - Even though he's still a villain. Well by villain, he's just a absolute killer. But I loved that. He really is on that family. CJ, CJ was the bounce error. - I'm jealous. - That was our bounce error. Me and you, Antoine Marbys. (laughs) You, Mr. Marbys. That was our bounce error. - When CJ was over there, he was being married in faithful. He wasn't. (laughs) - Speak for yourself. - I think I'm the fucker. - It was us in bounce. With Rob. You remember Rob? - I don't know nobody named Rob. - Rob was the big white boy at the bar with the cowboy man who was trying to take us all over the country on private jets or some liquor brands. - Oh boy. - Wait, hold on. - You trying to check on him? - Rob was him, yeah. - Shutter Rob. Rob was him, Rob was the super cool white guy just at the bar buying everybody drinks worked for, what was that? - I'm not, honeyjack. - See? - I'm losing it. - Work for honeyjack. And he was just so fly. - That's what you're doing this weekend. We taking the honeyjack jet. - And that's what I said before in New York. - Y'all didn't go with him? - No. - In New York, bro, you could be standing next to a nigga that's worth $3,400 million. - That's what I said. - And he got on a white t-shirt and a lumberjack. - That's a huge one. - And you don't know nothing. - And some of them niggas would be cool. - Coolest. - Despite what Mark says about them. - Coolest shit. - They could be coolest shit. - Coolest capitalist. - Yeah. - Yeah, exactly. - Challenge to Rob. - Bounce. - CJ, go, go nicks. Nicks and six. - How about the sixes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, people be clowning. Sixes looking pretty good. - I absolutely love VJ. - VJ, VJ put up 30. - Absolutely love. No free throws. - No free throws. - You put up 30, no free throw. - That's just impressive. - It's one of the best. - The off day views of a really average. - Him and Max, he was back there just doing whatever they wanted to. - Yeah. And he's not playing game three, court and reports. He had been a scientist. - Enough of that. - Yeah, I mean. But if you come just saying, if he comes back anytime in the series, it can swing it either way. Sometimes I think their offense looks a little too slow and he doesn't have the room protection. He used to because he's not as mobile. So sometimes the sixes don't look as good offensively or defensively with him in there. Then his nights where he looks like him again. And what I'm saying is he getting one good and beat night on game five or game six. This series could go a different way. - Yeah. - Should get changed everything. - Go different way. - And beat is going to go down as the best that never was able to do it. - Him and Bill Walton in that way. - Which is a shame. Because he got Bill Walton wiped. - He's way more talented. - He's way more talented than Bill Walton and then beat in the same sense. - No, in terms of being a elite all time centers who helped that in a way and then beat for the feeling of weakness. - Bill, black people don't claim that. - Yeah. - Black. - Yeah. - Black people don't claim Bill Walton is some of us whites too to be clear. - Oh okay. - Either right. - I'd say Bill Walton important and I think that's because of injury maybe. Because he was often injured and he never really got the. - And college he was elite. - Yes. - And then importantly he wanted championship and he was elite. - Okay and we ain't fuck with his son before he went on his run. - His son says a player. - I like his son. - I like his son. - I like his son. - I like his son. - He was a good player. - Bill Walton is overrated but he's still an elite all time player who injuries got his way that's in V2. But we'll see. - Come on let's congrats though. - Yeah. - To the sixers. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Hopefully we can win. - That was a good win. - I'm like, grand nakes from one in one game. - Yes. - Okay. - Especially when my team lost one game now two games. I'd like to. Would hate to see Boston just run all over the sixers while we in a dog fight with the hawks. - Yes, sixers. Please slow them down. - He wants us to wear Boston down so that they can play Boston in the next round. - Hopefully if we can play. - If we get to play. - I'm trying whenever he gave me. I can't even think about the practice. - If y'all get bounce first round, this shit you blow it up. - You gotcha. - I think they're blowing it up if they don't make the finals. - Oh okay, so you got finals or bust? - Oh yeah. If they don't make the finals, this team will never play together again. Sorry. Bye bye. - Out of here. - Any quick thoughts on the draft forward and worst take? - Okay, I want to start with, I don't know ball. So of course at pick 10, I thought we were going Caleb down. I thought we were doing it 11 years. - I was sick. - I spoke to him. - Arvel Reese, you're a part of it. - Arvel Reese Caleb Downs, we leave with two of the best players in the entire draft, and I only do it. - And I only do it. - But Harbol wanted to get off the offensive line. - Not even an eye man, that's why we know it. And I like that pick. I like that pick, but I don't know ball. So I was looking for the sexy pick later, which would have been Caleb Downs. And pick five, we go with the need, but I guess he did a reverse, he took sexy first. Arvel Reese's sexy, that's the sexy pick. And he went with the need later. So I'm happy with it. I was so happy when the fucking dolphins got to 11, Caleb Downs is still there, and then we went and traded the fucking ish. Cowboys had a great draft. - Feeling the Cowboys do that every fucking year, yo. - They kinda do. - Every year Cowboys do that. Steven, who's that? Steven Jones? Fucking Steven Jones. - Good draft. - He's a good draft. He's a good draft. I'm happy with our second pick in the first round, but the first pick I'm iffy on, but it's tackled, it's not sexy. And then he's talking about the dolphins. He's talking to the dolphins, fans are. - Fuck you, wish. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah, fuck Cowboys. - I just knew we was getting Caleb Downs. - I knew we was getting-- - What's your past on the muscle, guys? - But once we passed, it's not that we didn't get him. It's that sunny stals went to the commanders, and Caleb Downs went to the Cowboys. - That's in your confidence. - Yeah. - So now the NFC East is just-- - That's the vision part of me. - Yeah, man. - I mean, it was lacking in the secondary. - And then the Eagles got McHydel. - Lambman. - They do it every year too. - They do. - I like Ty Simpson on the Rams at 13. I thought that was-- I thought that in the chiefs pick, where the most obvious picks for me-- - She's cleaned up too, yeah. - Yeah, they did great, but it was a good first draft. - Yeah, it was. - It was a good first day of the draft. - It was very unpredictable. Tate going forth to Tennessee was like, oh shit. - I feel like once love left Tennessee didn't know what to do. - Yeah, man. I feel like they had no idea what they were doing. - It only takes one pick to really upset a whole draft. - Yeah. - Pull up my skin. - See NFFanity. - Oh. - Like we see NFFanity. So if somebody do some stupid shit, it'll fuck the whole first round up. Like, and they could just come take you be like. Jeremiah love at three to the cardinals who had already got Al Jair from the Falcons, they've resigned fucking Connor and Benson, I think. And I think Benson, fact check that for me, but I think Benson, Tray Benson. Running back, they got three running backs. That's the running back, roaming the cardinals. And they took Jeremiah love third, which makes him the highest paid running back in the league. - That's crazy. - That's crazy. - That's crazy. Like by a lot too, he gets 50 million, he'll get 50 million guarantee throughout the course of his contract. I think the next one is B. John and C. Quarron and all that later. - That's nuts. And no way to tighten store they were doing that. - Yeah. And then you gotta get Wade some fucking ward. - War, I'm sorry. - War, somehow. - Yeah, some help. So I'm not mad at that. But you sh-- yeah, I don't know. - Yeah, I'm waiting to see what happens tonight. We got another pick. - Yeah, see, some of these organizations be trash, 'cause they just do dumb shit every single year. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Literally, like they just poorly ran organizations. And they kind of fucked the sport up. Like, everybody clowned Dallas, but we do some smart shit sometimes. - You drive through some dumb shit. - Yeah, but yo, dog, when you just see these, all the time-- - And yo, my girlfriend have the white house. (laughing) - You mad, you ain't get to their white house run. That have been your-- - What? - Behind the stadium. - What? - You ain't been in Dallas game in the wild, too, Evan. They took your tickets. They banned you, Evan. She said, "No more Dallas." Like, "Mine, dude." - I can't go to Dallas anymore. - I'm close to Dallas with me. - No, no, that's not what I'm saying. - I'm not, I know she does. I'm sure mine come to Dallas with me, too, now. (laughing) - That's only when you go in the Dallas, literally. (laughing) - Who is allowed to go to Dallas by himself? - To the cowboy's gang. - Mark what the fuck? - Mark where you maybe, I'm sure. - We're, the boy boy. - Mark where can't you go by yourself? - Not that there's a rule, but it's-- - Just no, you know. - I think the two cities that were raised the most questions, there we go. - Would be LA. Atlanta? - Atlanta. - Yeah. - Do you go to Miami by yourself? - You know, I mean, that's good. When I go to Miami so rarely, I never thought about it. Probably, that'd probably be another one. - That'd probably be a little-- - DC. - DC's fine, I work in DC. - Oh, I mean DC. - I work in DC, you see it? - I said I work in DC. - I call it. - And it's Jizida. - Work, work, work, work. (laughing) - Come on, let's get some music. Let's get to some music, you guys. You all wanna start with the Drake date? You wanna start with K-Liney, which one? - I mean K-Liney, you're just gonna do K-Liney, 'cause there was a lot of jokes. - Let's start with the last episode. - That's right. - When I said K-Liney's coming up Friday, oh, you're such a bitch. - I absolutely knew that you was gonna do that. - Exactly. - I was joking on you for knowing the date. - Right, but when I actually released, who listened to it? You write this in the mini-adjustion drop. - Yes. Yes. - Yes. - He was saying like this. - I wasn't. - It's amazing. - It's really amazing. - Absolutely amazing. - At first, the first record I like, and I was like, uh-oh, the Wayne record. - The next 14. - I didn't like the Wayne record. - Yeah, then it was great from there, I don't know. I was like, okay. - See, I wasn't mad at the Wayne record. It was given, all right, it was given. It was a vibe. I see that's the vibe that she owned. And the clips record, same vibe to me. Okay, cool. That shit absolutely took off. - Once you get to, ooh, ooh, ooh. - I like this one before, the Brandy joint. - That shit was dope too. - That's the show. - Yeah, now, look, everybody mute up. 'Cause we're not gonna, first of all, the Brandy joint, the run is folded and then it's the Brandy joint. Let me just make sure. Let me make sure here. - Yeah, folded, folded. - Yeah, folded. - Four, folded. - Five, I need you, Brandy, featuring Brandy and six is, ooh, but we're gonna pause on these two, the Brandy record and this one record for me to hold on. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - All right. - Y'all know I'm not gonna fail you when it comes to soft side of a thug, R&B. - All right, it's don't suck it. - Eat while I'm talking, you got suns. I'm not gonna fail you on the soft side of a thug. Let's go. ♪ I'm with the Pimashis ♪ ♪ When you want my girl ♪ - This shit sound like it's supposed to be on the full moon album that you ain't gonna hold you. ♪ I'm always wanna be here, yeah ♪ wanna be in your house I can't hide it out and I shoot everyday Can't believe you don't say that this is all I need Let's go on the background It'll be in confusion It has been over pieces of drop I ain't got the live Jimmy Jim Terylouis And that's the key on the end of the video And the Terylouis, man (Music) Of course Jimmy Jim and Terylouis They keep on, she hold Jimmy Jim, I love you (Music) And that makes sense because both K-Lonnie is from that K-K-Lonnie, Tiana, they are. They keep like Janet Jackson tradition alive on the low Sure, yeah So that makes all the sense in the world (Music) Listen to this angel You forgive, chief and related to Ragey (Music) Oh my God (Music) And then, and then, and you say that the end should have told me Jimmy Jim and Terylouis We all are in a cord rise and chin (Music) (Music) Oh my God (Music) Negative drop when I was on my way (Music) I was in a fucking car and the truck already With it was ours What's my face? Big black one (Music) I tried to wear some finished sweats last week It wasn't doing the same It ain't the same when they could just fire you Oh that's your dick (Music) My shit's bigger with some mystery (Music) Alright, you know what time it is Let's go (Music) Oh my God Come on man Come on (Music) I gotta let them finish because I just appreciate people knowing when they're hookets fire And letting them rock properly (Music) And this is what you do when you have a brand new feature I'm not gonna lie This is how it's supposed to sound (Music) Stop because I could do that all day Oh my God That's just me Oh my God that record See because I was a little I was thrown off when I bought the folded pack And Kailani and Brandy did folded And while it was great I know my girl Miss Norwood I know Miss Norwood She ain't getting her bag going that one She gave you that because she was already in there Because she was already cooking She was already cooking you up something that was proper So at the end of the session let's pull up folded Yeah I got a little something for her I'll do a little stuff on there But the crack The crack within studio Anyway let's get to it This is the one Oh my God this record But this record is right after the other record which is not sped I got a hold in that I'm gonna turn around and we're back home in the car ride Oh my God I got a hold and I'm at that age Where my chicken to twitch in his cover is coming out I'm sorry man I used to be able to hold it I used to be able to hold it Bitches use to think I was dating him You got to squeeze it in seconds Yeah Oh God this morning Looking about you Usually I'm on it And I without you I just need a little taste To give me through my day Take a guess Excuse me, take a carry-osin Writer's Yeah Because that's what stands out on the Kalani project She's great, her performance is great Songwriters Jump out all over this project Like you've got them The Usher record is not my favorite but it sounds like a songwriter Like they're still a songwriter Still? Later? The Leon Thomas joint A songwriter back to this dope Dixon on the Usher What? Dixon on the Anstill? Dixon you are killing my boy You are absolutely killing my boy I bet that you want it out with that car We let this rock dope Kill it and make me take it Oh my God That's all she could say is Ooh, she cares like none else Python in the And then this with the girth What you gonna say? And I'm gonna say That's the crunch Oh Yo stop playing with this girl yo stop playing with this lady Stop playing with this lady Tyree stop playing with tank y'all the fuck you just came up here and try to jump us nigga Shout out to Tyree's Tyree's patreon.com yo Dog It was really good man. It did not disappoint. Yeah at all Shots me a poke mixed it Shut up, huh? Actually, it sounds yeah, yeah, you know I'll cash it and fucking doja cab bunch of amazing It sounds like that. I'm still letting this go. But yeah, please they have to stop playing with this lady And I don't really know who is playing with her But just in case this how you follow though after coming off of folded the Grammy run all like the year you've had It's a nice delivery. See this is why I got it here the her album is four songs on here that should have been on it Her Wow, I don't care I treat her I give her the Frank Ocean Grace that people give him I give it to her Mm-hmm. I don't care how long she take you go three more years if you I'm a one-diving, but you you could take your time Honestly She can't even wait till we get to the All right now I have to let this rock because there's guitars on it indeed and y'all know I'm not cutting it off before guitar Yeah That's right look at flipping Mark saw making them text-to-co workers Probably texting somebody from this colleague Texting somebody from flipping network right quick Way through the guitars come on man colleagues Here we go here we go Take you know what to do Yeah Build up to the guitars nigga drop the drum sexy breathe and talking over this shit My god, you know what what it is say this thing is how sleep off Go Janet Jackson. Yeah, I think that guitar wind up is one of the greatest sounds ever music. It is That's one of the greatest sounds in music Pack this up. Let's start thinking a name Hey, take my last name if you want it hyphenated. I don't care John to Eric Wallace I'm like a tire. I'm sus name Eric Wallace. He's played with a lot of a lot of people Shout out to Eric that that guy They put they absolute foot in some of the business on this on this out they did they did But good good good that y'all are giving talented people budgets to be talented I love when the artist there's no better feeling as a artist folded allowed K. Lonnie to just do it you are Blossom yeah, and not have to argue with nobody at a label not have to fucking go in there with my soundcloud producers go Yo call them niggas up for me treat me like a Pre-level premier artist and this is the music you might get back We got Drake and Chris Brown and back to back weeks We're gonna get outside of what you think of the music. We're gonna get music that sounds like Gross. Yes. Yes. That's it. Just professionals making music shout out to K. Lonnie, man. What else y'all want to hear from this shit? I'm I'm cool. I'm cool, but Cardi record I like a lot to I'll get to the Leon Thomas record off After still a little bit I will say I'm a little shocked To not have heard any destined conrad That right there My broken heart can't do no good Don't wait up from To hold you a good But I'm not It's a my see your bitch. I make sure what a big win. It just sounds like songwriting is all I'm saying Yeah, the song is building It's written properly See the writers are gonna put that in there they're gonna be discrete you got me crying in the hotel It's fucking 3 a.m. And what the writers it just this is a phenomenal job bottom. Yeah, by everybody worked on this project This is Leon Thomas. This sweet nothing's featuring Leon Thomas. Yeah, I know he put his foot all the way to Take it ready No, no, no, no, no, no, show I'm sorry. I just Why are we on it? I feel like all of her even if you didn't like the Wayne feature I feel like he killed it Oh, he did I feel like clips killed it big Sean killed it. I just didn't like it starting the album. I guess maybe maybe that's what The person I hear in the album is Wayne like I have to her in the way Wayne. Yeah, I want some kids I want that Wayne is one of the artists that though you're not you're never supposed to do that really like have the feature Start your album or start the song that's starting the album, but Wayne you make the extension for All right, Leon. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go Sweet dance without any intervention. Oh, yeah, I know I promise you change it running time Change come over night And I'm waiting looking good, but you haven't make this one right? Who wants it not me gonna come through inside you I got it what you mean that doesn't mean I'll be Yeah, a one project word a one fire. She did that shit. Yes, she did she did K. L.A. You did it. I ain't got shit to say like Not negative. Yeah, this sound like some item one Grammy's word. He's going with some more Yeah, and a bunch of people are one Grammy's yeah The Avengers in me yeah, that's a good right fucking arm. Yeah, right to go room full of pros. Yeah, we know how to do this Ain't about to be no bullshit coming under here. Nope dick centers are on fire man, and I want I want Jimmy jam to come up here man, you should he should He be so low, man. He just used to be I used to when I used to do the army shit I told you before he just would be in there listening to the music chill and vibe just it that said you love that um What else what else we got all right Drake? May 15 we got a release date. I think you you called it. I said I said Like I said is that the week somebody said was like no, though right around before my moral day weekend Which is I said two weeks. I was thinking I was you Yeah, you're right. I know somebody here called it. I was a little short. I think I was a little long It's kind of someone in middle. Yeah, but yeah, we got the date her dad before right? Oh shit Never actually Now we want to tell They don't think Mark hole in the re-walking with them pants Mark don't dress like you We gonna put it on teacher well and down Well and down doctor you gonna make a little with an arrow You can ask some of my mutuals. Oh, how many mutuals do we have? Oh, you know, you know the answer. I know every time guys do that Story Because he knows the answer I promise you I'm my kids. I don't know the hell How would you know how many choose and how to know how many I'll tell you I'll tell you later Cuz his wife is more strict than my girl Yeah, it's probably true. How would you know? Cuz they have in the conversation you're asking You can you can you can there's intimidation factor you know you find out then I saw the ring camera shit. I was like I'm good I think yeah, you say intimidating by another nigga Setting up for the joke Can we move on to the next story Don't introduce nothing again if we go back you down that fast I want to see No, I'm thinking back you down Yeah, don't say the word mutual or nothing rhyme with it again then Mutuals Decades ago I wouldn't know that's the only thing I'm sure Probably no we don't ask them Comes up some time comes up who brings it up them They bring it up with they bring it up to the other person too Let's say don't fuck them with them. Let's say don't fuck with them no more. Oh If you didn't be the satisfy with the experience you may not even say nothing else. Oh, you know I ain't a lot of you my car faxes all the way good and out there My girl don't like when I say it so I'm gonna mute up now, but he said it though You know my the get a trouble. It's so long ago man. I can't it's all fuzzy my car fat If if if if somebody heard something about me in streets 80% chance I'm pleased with the Control you can't so what out of five is some some some people online Angry emotional, but a good portion of it Please with the police with the one tax return me too I'm saying don't say mutual Make another one as new children all us may may 15 You got you Now you are We feeling how we feeling we feeling I'm glad I'm glad man. I'm ready. I'm excited. I don't need the rollout shit Now we got the date. That's all I care about. I can't wait. Yep. Some more time. I want Drake music man me too. It's time Drake you Drake fans out there that are oh He's trying to make parks work today Don't fuck up the good equity that Drake has built in his silence, please I'm telling you He lost the battle he went away. He took some advice. He got some therapy. He remained quiet He stopped all the bulls. He's still suing all these niggas But he's quiet and now the world I think is very anxious to hear Drake music look at that Here you fucking Idiots go Just trying to ruin a good moment. Did you all think that I saw somebody say all they like dice dice exhibit But they didn't like J. Gold driving around in the Civic. No, I didn't like that Civic shit Don't bring it up again cold fans. You fans are pissing me off the ice shit with performance art That was great also back to Drake fans. That was my shout at the co-fan the Civic was performance art - Poorly done I like to sit down too low hanging through just not just not just no fuck that civic You Drake fans the One sorry part that's seem to think that because people thought he lost the battle by a lot That we never wanted to hear Drake song yet somebody helped me understand it Somebody explain it to me. I'm trying to say Their mindset of it's back to that you chose aside It's stay on that side They don't think you can be fans of multiple people especially if they're going at each other You are fan of here if you on this side or you pick this side is the winner whatever the case may be that by default means you hate everything about that side That's the way they operate so they project that on everybody else or I think that they're not music fans the Drake fans. This is the way I look at it. Yeah, they don't give a fuck about the music right about anything right And now that because he's been so quiet now that he's how out you know the roll out we got a date They feel like we've been waiting for this moment and I don't want to see none of y'all who said he lost celebrated Y'all don't we we held it down. He lost I'm gonna celebrate That's not music is back He lost and it was a unbiased observation of a battle it was more than that so for those people that are Drake fans Again that pick a side coach it plays both way like your dog don't come right dick now if this nigga put out a fire project Exactly it's not a stance. I'm just telling you okay, so them do you think that's realistic? No, no I didn't I didn't think any of it was realistic, but I got clown for that. I didn't think none of it was realistic I thought during that particular exchange some of the music that was being put out by both parties was good music Negas shit it on everything that that nigga said or did No, I want to be clear you're not talking about up here Cuz we celebrate a bunch of the Drake But in general everybody shit it on everything he said he couldn't say nothing during that battle that got no traction or no smoke That's true He took a lot of missteps in that battle was backfire No, I'm gonna do what some of the music that he was put down some of the Drop when he dropped family matters we weren't crazy up here. No, he didn't and push up I'm not a chance to go crazy for Push up to lie before any of that before all these record jaw name and The one we are doing Joe Biden Park. I like that. We're the only people to say that was fire. Oh, yeah Everybody should know and the pie and the day I We was the only progressive ones like it I didn't even like that song that that park But I think I'm just generally speaking Nickas was saying yo this nigga didn't do shit. He was trash blah blah blah blah. We can we can take it off us. Yeah, but what I'm saying Why can't you say that and Want to hear Drake music you could? But there's some people was gonna look like it's hypocritical because if he was get let's say like let's say it's take family matters Right family matters in my opinion was a very very very well written song Right cool On that song and said it was trash not appeared a lot of the shit a lot of the shitty on family matters I saw was My nigga you got this nigga shooting at you, but you took this record the fire day. Anybody else like you move that talk to him It was a lot of that like you you you Drake shot at everybody. He got out coached Any underestimated his opponent. Yeah, that's what I think that's what really He's underestimated his opponents all of that drop drop drop. Yo, you can't do that like you taunted this nigga And when he was ready he took your fucking head off and you didn't expect it your fans didn't expect it shit I didn't expect it to change that way we're changing the conversation, but but we change the conversation I think I think both sides of that pick a side shit because the people you speak to the Drake Oh, not speak to but the people you're speaking about the Drake fans who say hey y'all said this this this you can't come back Over here. It's like they get keeping it now like because we stood tall on this side If you weren't over here, we don't want to hear you back over here. It's not back on either side. Niggas like good music And Drake go put out a good album. Yes Kendrick smoked his boots and guess what if iceman is fire I'm gonna come and hit me like this my shit You got it. You can just keep just keep in mind that people look at it as it's okay It's for somebody to lose when you kick him on fuck about these down. It's a whole different thing And that's what niggas is doing. It was kicking him ice down and I know y'all set it down if he get down again I'm a kick him no Joe, but then you not but they were not expected if you kick him If you kick him out is down we're not expecting you to come and praise him the next minute if he put out he you can Pense it depends on what you say. It's how do you kick him out? I don't know Drake. I don't know. I don't know. I'm seeing I think it was a lack of objectivity during the Drake battle I think that niggas personally didn't fuck with him or what he's doing for and so they did not judge the music objectively. That's what I really think is the hard part. >> I think that has anything to do with people wanting to hear a dream. >> Yeah, I think both of these are trying to do wrong. >> I said about the comment section. >> That's what I'm saying about the comment section. >> I'm not talking about the comment section. >> The comment section. >> The tweets is minimally important compared to people who's opinions made matter. >> People have logical opinions, logical breakdowns, who listen to music, who have a worldly opinion. >> Like you see how we just, >> Well, let me not, what you see how we just, >> I'm just big up. >> Yeah, I'll talk to him right to you. >> You see how I just big up, K-Liony, >> For like the writers. >> Yeah. >> Like we expect Drake now to get with, >> To get with the pros, the professionals now. >> You thought they get the rules. >> When you're with the professionals, >> And your talent is it? >> That part. >> It is. >> Yeah. >> You with Jimmy Jam. >> They know bullshit coming out of this. >> That part. >> No. >> Bullshit might come, but guess what? >> They wasn't trying to do it. >> They was having a stern music genius think tank, and they put some out and you didn't like it. That's cool. But in terms of fucking them doing that, and now we going to, I will never be that. I will never be the person to let. >> But what we say, well what I'm saying is. >> Fans fear sway what I'm saying. >> Of course everybody's knocking. >> But I think that number, that person like you that you speak to, that number's getting smaller by the day. That's what I'm saying. >> It only. >> More people are becoming sheep. >> Less is more than it is plenty of us. >> No, I get that one. >> That line is just a reason. To even acknowledge that the other side is growing, has no impact on the one that its power is internal. >> I can't. >> That number can keep growing. >> If it's on come out, I have the ability to do something with my ears that other people don't. >> Of course. >> Sure. >> But that might matter just to you. But now to the success of my product, not saying we know Drake's going to do numbers. But I'm talking about the reception of my product overall. The perception of my product in the other side, Matt. >> Why do you think people get mad at you? >> But you let 10 Joe, you let 10 Joe buttons or whoever that have opinions that people give a fuck about say this album is great. The comment section can say whatever the fuck they want to. >> And back to my point, that's the point I was about to make. Why do you think people get so mad at you? >> I do a lot of dedication. >> No, because your voice is so strong in this game that if you came in and said x, y, and z about somebody's project, it can sway somebody else's opinion. It should not sway somebody else's opinion. >> It should, it does. >> But if you go into listening to the project with bias ears already, to Mark's point, I didn't want to read the reviews about the Michael Jackson shit because I didn't want it to influence my decision. >> Mm-hm. >> And today's society, when you before you open the album, and everybody in Twitter is killing that shit, now you looking at the album with a negative connotation already to think that the shit is going to be trash. >> You looking for the truth. >> That's real life, bro. >> That's real. Okay. And I'm sure that that point is really important to whoever is important to, and I don't want it to be dismissive of it. >> Mm-hm. >> But on Drake Alvin time, I'm not thinking about these people. >> I'm not going to Twitter now. >> Yeah, but y'all are mine. We, we, I'm not going to say y'all, it's we, because we all behave all the way. >> I don't behave all the way. >> Yeah, we are. >> Yo, I don't care. Here's all I keep saying. >> Got it. >> When the Drake Alvin come, >> But you know who might care? >> Who? Drake. >> Good. >> That's what I'm talking about. That shit affects the artist. >> Yeah. >> That might, my album ain't even getting a fair shake. >> Not because it's not good, because y'all are mad at a battle that happened before. >> That is it. >> That, that would affect the artist. >> It's not your album anymore once it's out. >> Family's still my baby. >> I put this out. >> I put Blood Sweat Tiss and A. >> It's an issue. >> If y'all listen, they just didn't like it. >> It's released to the world. >> It is the world to do whatever they, that's how art goes. >> I understand. >> That's, that sounds. >> He should have been spending the last however much time creating this album locked in a vault cellar somewhere. So you tell him how you read, what the fans had to say once it came out. I don't care what fans got to say once it came out. What were you doing when you were making it? >> Bro, you think, you think, because don't care what people think about the album when they drop it? >> Yeah, I think that's what they did. >> You really believe what they did. >> I don't even know what we're talking about right now. >> Well, I'm asking a question. I'm asking a question. >> Do you think the artist that locked away and built their album when they released it to the world? You think they don't care what the, what the talk is about the album? >> Of course they do. >> Because he just said if I was locked in, you think I was reading the comments? I don't, what's his release to the world? His release to the world? >> For what we're talking about, he's talking about the creation time, not the release time. >> I'm talking about the noise around my release or me being looked at a certain way can't affect how my album is received by the public. And I care about that. >> Did that affect how it was created? >> No. >> Okay. >> Of course not. >> You also have to remember Joe was on TDE payroll. >> I got a bit of it. I've been suspecting for a long time. I even floated to rumor myself on different sites under different names. But I got confirmation of this. >> I got confirmation of this. >> Yes, two days ago, some information came out from rapper Daylight. Is that right? >> Rapper Daylight. >> You just say Daylight. People didn't go to jail. >> Just say Daylight. >> It's not the DR. >> I'm reporting now. >> The DR. >> It's just DR but. >> I'm reporting. >> Sorry. >> Rapper Daylight. >> Confirm. >> Joe Biden has been compromised by TDE payola. And it's confirmed here because they have Daylight, I'm not even saying it since it says this. Drake has asked as his main promo guy,.has Joe Biden. I'm telling you now, start pushing it because we about to make a super, super wave. Startlend people know this is the next wave of people. So I think it's important Joe, just for transparency, especially in this conversation, that you own your TDE connections. When I find that little motherfucker behind that academics TV page, I got somebody that I'm going to send a talk to him. I tell you that much. God damn it. Just a quick little talk about what revealing behind the scenes, ongoing, if you're reponitioned. >> Bel health and wellness. >> Yeah, basically. >> I think you get a copy. >> I'd say healthy one. >> I think you get a copy that can't switch. >> You ain't no copy. >> Yeah. >> Yo, I'm not being paid by TDE. I have never been paid by TDE. I've never been paid by any artist. I can't be bought. That's what makes me so different from y'all who shake ass for the fucking little, yeah, maybe not. >> We get a little barter. >> Yeah, man. >> I get calls every week from record labels offering to pay me a lot of money. To talk about shit that I don't care about or probably just want to talk about for free, but in my own way that I want to talk about it, don't pay me to big some shit up that I'm not going to big up. No, paying me is a mistake. >> You ever got the call to not talk about something? That's the for money. No, that's the threat. That's the threat. That's the health of the world. The wellness, the big dog. The reverse smile. Yeah, but no, no. I didn't think the daylight was saying I had been paid, but I understand what he was trying to do with them. I took it. He's saying that my reporting is favorable to TD. And it has been while he was fucking kicking ass. Right. He's gonna say, "Rubble shit." Yeah. Truth of the matter, I wanted to see all three and the big three fail a little bit. Kendra just didn't at the end. He went up. He went up. I'd like to see him all pegged down a notch and get some humble pie. I'm gonna see him up there. Yeah, I'm gonna notch. Yeah, it didn't work at all. And I called him before the battle. I said after this battle, somebody's gonna make us look at somebody different. You said that? I didn't know he was gonna hit the two for one special on it. And make us look at both of these things different. But that's what under the bridge for me. If this drink shit come out and it's sounding like what we know it has the potential to sound like, I'm gonna be the first one to come in here and big that nigga up on his process and overcoming our hardship. We wanted it tough for years to have in hip hop. I wanna have that. I wanna be the first person to come in and say that. I wanna ask you, you said if it come out sound like we know it could sound like, right? Yeah, like it has the potential to sound like. If he went in and got in his bag. When does the last time Drake sounded like that? For me? Well, no, I can't say that. Let me not lie anymore. He found some of his bag on the party album. Okay, I wasn't a fan of it. But okay, both of them. In my opinion, I also think he found some of his bag on the heart loss. I mean, the 21st Avenue. Okay. Solo Drake though. Solo Drake has been a while for me. I'm on the record. Ten years for you? It's been ten years for me. And I just noticed that because I saw a post that views his ten years old now. To not find it at all? Not sounding like the Drake that I know. It sounded like I've been trying to, again, for me it started at More Life, where I am not making cohesive albums anymore. I'm making a collection of songs. And I thought that was why he caught more life or playlist. And they all kind of sounded playlist the other day. I love More Life. I didn't like More Life. And Drake's having a shit on there. But I'm saying before where I press play and I like 85-90% of this, it stopped at views for me. And just to be clear, like again, if the Drake music is fire, I'm coming in here to say it's all the way fire. But I don't think, I don't feel like I can no longer comfortably pay wall the episode. Like I don't feel like the state of Drake is that for me today. This one might be. I don't think so. I don't feel like that. Yeah, I agree. But all of that, I don't feel like that. But you're right. I agree with that. But all of that speaks to public perception. Shit, I'm hurt about that. Public perception and how far he's fallen based on public perception. Like he was so high at one point that anything Drake related was something that Chuka put behind a pay wall and sell individually. And make a million dollars. And right now he's not that in the public anymore to where it even moves the needle financially for you. Well, they probably need some change. I totally disagree with you. Yeah, I disagree with that. And they ain't even a guy to nothing to do with Drake. It's just their relationship. They want to hear what Joe got to say about Drake. No matter what. Pay for it. Shit. We will disagree on that. Yeah, we're. They'll pay for it too. We'll see. Pay wall. And tax, tax month, just it. I've been popped for a few months. I ain't going to lie. I ain't pay wall now. I just thought of it. I knew such a bad job trying to sound sincere about things. I'm not sincere about. I might pay wall that episode. So don't be. Don't be shot. On some other Drake news, y'all heard about the lawsuit Drake, Aiden Ross, academics, and steak. The gambling. The website app. Yeah. Yeah, this one's actually filed in Jersey. If you break it, break it down. No, it's it's kind of the same thing with the other lawsuits that have been filed. So one file is a suit claiming that one that Drake, academics, and Aiden Ross are not disclosing that they have the deal with steak. Like it's an it's basically saying y'all are not gambling y'all money. So y'all are leading the people on to believe that y'all are winning all this money y'all are playing the risk yourself and your not. So then people partake into it. So, um, but yeah, it's just I think this is like the fourth or fifth one filed in the country is different states. Well, people coming together filing the lawsuit and naming everybody. It's dumb. Tell me why I don't just go on to stay. When I see Anthony Edwards on a sprite commercial, do I assume he's drinking sprite? Or is he just had a contract with sprite? Like I just nobody's leading you on to believe that they're making a shit ton of money gambling is gambling. Risking your money is risking your money. So even if this person puts up that I made $77,000,000 last month, they might have taken a risk at making $77,000,000. That don't mean that your results are going to be with their results all. It's the good. It's the good law. I know, but I think it's dumb. You just even laws think the law. I think it's stupid because again, it's nothing more than an ad. Like if we see, uh, uh, yeah, what that's what that's what exists. Yeah, the law says you have to disclose when it is an ad and then free rang. Oh, dude, what you want? Right. It's an ad and you are misleading people than that is. It's a big deal. See, that's my point. Like, I you don't see it as misleading. Yeah, I don't see it as I could be a loose. What? I watch him do hours of commentary about hip hop in front of a steak screen in front of a steak poker table. Right. Pretending to, I don't know if it's pretending, but seeming like he's gambling his money. You can't do that. Is it confirmed that he's not gambling his money? I don't know any of that. That's what they're investigation. But that's why they saying we've investigated nobody saying that they're connected to this company. So if we find out that there's a link somewhere and that they giving you money to do certain things, you're done though. So I mean, I think that makes all of sense. But you're saying the steak table and a steak little logo at the bottom of the screen and all of that other stuff that doesn't say advertisement dollars. Or that doesn't say this isn't that. Yeah, but now when you turn around, because what they're speaking to is when they turn around and post their slips in this line, they're like, I wagered this amount. Yes. I won this. But if you didn't really wager that amount because you're giving-- They might have got promo funds or whatever the case is. It's still a wager that they say that's illegal to say. And that's the main thing. That has to be disclosed. But I'm saying legality all the time don't make sense for me. So I still think it's stupid. You say even though law is still stupid to me. Here's why I think it could, man. I'm just thinking this through because I haven't thought it through before because I didn't notice it was law. Like if-- let's say they gave me $1,000 in promo funds. And I lost-- and I made $100 bets and I lost nine of them. And then I promote the 101. I can say, look, I made money. But if an actual gambler were to do the exact same thing, they lost money. So in some ways, I'm misrepresenting my results, which is cool to do if people know it's an ad. Because like you said, it didn't just a spright thing. See, I look at it differently. I look at it like on this one ticket, I hit. And that's what I'm saying. I'm saying you all of this money. But what is your money? Yeah. But he has zero point. I'm going to his point. But part of his point was that they gave you $1,000 in promo dollars and you lost nine hundred of them. And you hit on 100 of them. You're not showing the other nine hundred that you lost. But it's still-- Yeah, their money though is. Yeah. They're trying to prevent people from getting suckered into thinking that these high stakes, games of chance are actually more sure than they are. Because it's a consumer protection. I'm inclined to be with you that the-- I understand the logic of it, but I just think to your point and your point, like if I got to add in the table and all this other shit, it's something we got to trust the consumer. Well, Ann is keeping the company in check. It's protecting consumers, but it's also keeping the company in check. It has to be for this rules. Y'all can't just go because y'all have all the money in the world. Take $20 billion, spread it out amongst people to make-- And then those people would influence, lead people to believe that they just out here doing all this, which-- I'll stay stay saying, "Hey, they're 20 minutes." And you cannot do that. You cannot do that. That's a company. I will have a conversation off my-- But take that, listeners. Hey, when this episode ends, some rivet-in-shit between me and Asher's going to get done. No, talk about it in that kitchen. And then I'm going to repeat it on Patreon. All right, what else? What else? What else? Oh, Mark, you left. Mark, you left. But there was another more. We wanted to talk about-- Yeah, he ran. We wanted to talk about this time-- He probably exit. Yeah, this Brian McNeid lost. Brian-- That's his lawyer that just going-- He's a lawyer. Talk about that shit on the pile. You all right, Mark? You're a lawyer until you stop the talk? That's great. He brought yours up and dipped off. Where's the-- Because he put it in the group chat. He put it right in the group chat, man. Come on, let's find this mark of Brian McNeid lost who he's named in. Yeah? Mark went to the bathroom to have his one last cry. They on your ass. I hope that little interview you did was worth it, boy. I hope that Patreon's selves went up. He coming for all of that. But Brian McNeid told Mark he was coming for it. to and Mark still came in here with his little song added to ego is true Brian I'm on your side if you listen to me all right here we go listen to some beautiful sounds all right here we go yeah yeah come on try to run out now now says his ex-wife and one of his sons some bloggers and the newspaper rolled out a coordinated assault on his reputation and make money from malicious character assassination at least according to a new lawsuit legendary singer foul the lawsuit claiming he's the victim of a shockingly dishonest and sensational but false narrative alleging he abandoned his kids and refused to tell his dying son Nico he loved him in that lawsuit obtained by Harvey of course Brian says the false narrative was cooked up by his ex-wife Julie McKnight and he says it's been peddled by his son Brian Jr. bloggers Mark Lamont Hill and Tasha K and the New York Post in addition to the alleged defamatory claims about his last moments with Nico Brian also claims Tasha K and Mark Lamont I just added his name that one falsely went online and claimed he was a cheater who had sex with a minor that's nasty Mark Mark I love that song it's such a great vote now stay on that side don't like that song no more I love this man I still is to bring me night music man the icon fellow version is the law version so panel beautiful dude man I'm so I'm so regretful that he hates me I can't be getting the performing that tomorrow you do mad shit to make people and then be shocked when they don't I'm not shocked I'm not shocked I first of all Brian me night started this but not me but what is the great Michelle Obama quote when they go low I go to hell how they started Mark when he went on that um podcast we're Anton Jameson and said and what's his name and Tom Daniel no disrespect to the brother are you doing it again no I go ahead I'm bad with names yeah I asked when he when he fucking mouth yo some people I did think you dodged that one dodged it how I don't know I'm not one of those people how do you how do you dodge it I don't have no beef with Anton Daniels that's a dodge you mean to make up some beef make up some of those right there he saying it's a dodge because Anton Anton was seemingly bringing the smoke to your front door inviting you to debate he didn't invite me to debate he definitely he did not invite me to debate in fact I reached out it said I would debate and he said you said you ain't know who he was and he started because I didn't because I didn't got you I didn't know who he was but he's not I ain't you know you my man I'm not trying to be funny get that in your back for sure he showed it to my team and reached out which they did but I don't you if you don't if you have a team you understand you understand this I do you reach out for guest we we check for guests all the time the year earlier they say I said I wanted to be the black Republican they gave me list of black Republicans and they tried to call what what me and flip is saying is that me and flip and yes me and flip one of the possible is that I'll turn on you right now I'm the possible I'm the possible I tell you that was nice you are you are you are you are you guys like you are impossible yeah niggas is saying that when Anton was looking for you and couldn't find you he went beat up Cory Holcomb and then I had sir then you really wasn't looking to see him no more but he was still looking for you I thought he was I salute him when the Cory Holcomb I thought he stood tall in the Cory Holcomb she had a Cory Holcomb like a clown yeah I thought Anton I don't got to be for Anton Daniel we don't agree on politically but also if Anton Daniels and Brieby Knight having a conversation in Brieby Knight says something it will be like if you would flip had a conversation and y'all both says something about me I'm not talking to the possible I'm gonna talk to you know this respect but you'd be Brieby Knight in that situation but he said he was he was he was but it's all this respect because it's like the niggas were planning something you had already said Brieby was funny is when I went to the audience actually you said the word as well the funny bro bro you said some slick shit about me stop your niggas flip of a niggas ride for you niggas we can't ride for you more than would you ride for yourself that niggas Coney you had Cole Jackson name niggas Coney what do you don't need I would love he called you he donated I still said now I'm not talking that nigga that's my man Mark that's it nigga niggas robber true you didn't ride nigga you took a backseat nigga your back pedal you move up recipes Michael Jackson you did that so the old boy never possible shit as possible that your back down you know I said I'm gonna go away I said I didn't turn up no I said I'm not that's my man I didn't know I didn't I think a donate 500 hours on a lot of shit and you gave it back I didn't like no I said no I didn't keep the money of course I kept the money then I did you ride me because we didn't talk to him there we go like I don't know bringing you okay cool with the donation I bet but I'm still not bringing up I'm not gonna get something back no you wait yes I would I would get you back I would have donated to that children center you supposed to be building in Trinidad oh shit you know I want people to think I'm avoiding never buying me nothing so first I'm sorry I'm sorry to answer yeah he um he he called me I guess I don't guess I never listen to it but I don't have a much you know you can do you think you could beat him can you think of or not let me answer what I'm saying is after he responded people say he was so crazy I didn't listen to it because there was no point like I don't I don't have a beef and I will fuck you up niggas too much words out of the guy the answer we will be the shit there's no worry about problem with something that I'm saying take it up with me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah anyway I don't have a joke in by the way I don't agree with anti days but I don't have a beef with him he he actually was the one who launched that when I didn't even know who I was unfamiliar with his work it wasn't I was yes it was a dissing since I was clowning a little bit but in real life I wasn't familiar with his work I wasn't being funny and my team having called him doesn't mean that I was well we don't really care about the answer we just then you brought it out we were just antagonizing you know to the bright me night parts is more important part um yeah see you know yeah cuz I started headline today bright me night soos mark on my hill and I was like he's not so at me but it is looking for him but people don't respond to what's actually true the original article and I'll you notice because people magazine reached out to me to say are you gonna respond to the bright me night suit and I was like what bright me night suit and that's when I send it to y'all which was a mistake clearly I was clearly a mistake you're some animal guys right here for but but he's suing as I understand it his ex-wife and his son for defamation and he's saying that basically they spread they got me in Toshaka to spread lies now this is others Toshaka should about the minor I don't know about I ain't got nothing to do with me I don't know that story I don't even know the story but he's not so I mean he's just mentioning basically he's basically saying that I got used yeah I mean I would say he's not close to that and doing it the world people have a right to interview people I interview bright me night ex-wife and bright me night junior the first one and when I interviewed them they told their truth there's a lot of bright me night junior's like that's doing to be confused I I didn't want there to be where he catches you and then you stand by that you stand by the interview all that animation well I'm not gonna come out no I'm to do stand by now and retrospect now that he has to stand by I stand by the interview I didn't go looking for people they asked if they can mark was doing shady journalist of course it was and now he's doing the and it's paid you know the wall of the shit it's not shady journalism shit I did I think it was going to give you is of course that's probably interviews that's why he brought Dr. Luma here right cuz you don't get viewed you didn't bring him because you didn't think it was gonna get you to go to educate the public on the African centered perspective you did it because you don't think it's a get clicks and that's the same and so yeah interviewed them because I don't get clicks and but I had smoke and because I know we got smoke I'm going to get you what yeah x-wife and your child that's not what happened that that sounds that's a great story and if that is what happened I would be like cool they reached out to me mark you are smoke with briming night before then why are you being a tooth I'm not being a tooth I'm saying yes just cuz I'm sorry what you're saying I'm not being a tooth but weird but I had people briming night and so then I interviewed his wife and kids right that's what you're saying and you said I did it because that's what I'm saying and I'm saying yes that's not a tooth I'm saying yes but there's a lot of words that come with the yes I'm sorry no you're right words fuck you up sometimes I'm saying yeah words we have the control you want to attack me because you don't want to say I had an issue and I interviewed and we knew you had smoke because you said you had smoke with him up here you you was a I'm a disagree with him my man stated that he wanted to come before me there's wedding you expressed yourself how you felt how he was a piece of shit that's not what happened you said he was a piece of shit mom you're talking the whole different story it's not true you didn't say it was a piece of shit that's okay this is what y'all do you say two things that are true and then when I say I disagree with one of them you keep repeating the second thing that I do agree with if then people go what mark keeps it agrees with everybody and you know it's disagreeing no I'm disagree with the first part okay okay I said I want briming night at my wedding That's a piece of shit. There was a story about Brian McKnight suing his wife. Yes. That's what we were talking about Also, I He talked about 100 Matt to add his wedding that same day. How is that relevant when I said that's how the conversation came up More and listen to me listen to what I'm saying that is not how the conversation came up I discussed Brian McKnight and his situation with his family when we as a team had a conversation about the story of Brian McKnight suing his family So you never ever had pre-existing smoke with Brian McKnight before then I've had it no before then no Got it all I was the fan of the music like y'all and in fact if you remember when you say you want to mess well I said he'd be a great person. I won't want that too When when the conversation came about the shit with his wife and kid we all said that's kind of fuck But then dim brining night reach out to you. No, he said he reached out to you and you ignored him But turned out he was reaching out to the fan page He never reached out to me. He didn't mean they got to kick mark back in what you are brun. That's a fact That's a fact still hit me. He's still open Brian Oh god, so anyway, we all talked about it and then I said that one of us said he was an asshole I actually didn't use the last I think it was actually you to say the night Whoa Shit We doing that let them let them let them off. It's didn't say anything wrong. I'm saying the word asshole came out I'm the thing you said bravin actin ass on the fanator. That's the famitore. No, it's not you get on in the I like you still know what you're still going in the suit now He tried anyway the point is The conversation came up Brian mentioned me and his interview with Anton Daniel. He did that's how the back-and-forth started That's how the back-and-forth started yes, I had a criticism of okay the lawsuit. Yeah, you did say and Brian we're not is an asshole though you did that was after the Anton Daniel thing. Yeah, I still think he's an asshole That's not I mean he's allowed to be an asshole. I'm allowed to come of course And he allowed the one to see you when he see you know, and he's welcome to that's all we say he's welcome to you might get one last cross You know I scared Brian Here's the other thing last thing I tell him what I got tell the way nothing um after I interviewed his wife and kids I think it was a fair interview I also reached out to Brian and said I'm open-handed to give you space to respond oh your shot double down on the page Yeah, he's just interviewing my ex-wife to keep You're welcome to return you're welcome to come to my platform and express yourself as a journal I want to be fair and I'm joking with you and I'm in which I'm joking about the patient, but I tell him we can talk offline on the phone if there was issues What no, it's an issue. I want to talk to you. I yeah You don't have my next wife and kid Yo listen we get a nice backdrop What's going to be back in closing you're not being sued no, I'm not being I'm starting from no more now. I am not being Wait till I'm funny when it's not funny when you got it right here. You got him Yeah, cool cuz if I get sued for my comments here, I would have to say that I was Pushed to do this at the behest of my boss. I got a look at the Joe Biden podcast We all going down I won't hit that day. It was it was name I bought a light skin nigga from the bank light skin nigga from the bank Crazy I'm letting go Let him go I'm not a line All of my name is the city should there's only way to be pointed fingers is if they party cruders trying to put the more I You see You know guns and sis go I'm not in the creeps Don't make me co-overs dollars. I don't want to LLC Definitely creeps boss Thanks guys We try to Thanks for helping me thanks for helping me to get out of that one. All right. What else is important what else is oh no no no way Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you man you man you man you man you man in Europe and in the United States from the age of Consent is 16 and I did sleep with a 16 year old when I was 30 when I was 30 I was a very different person I was a lot younger and I was immature 30 year old Concentral sex actually with a variety of people when there is a strong power differential is there is when you're a famous man That has the ability to attract women in Europe and in the United of Tract women that I had at that time I think involves exploitation. I think it is exploitative. No shit. I recognize that my sexual conduct in the past was selfish and I mean I did not apply enough consideration Belyenio I suppose really to how that sex was affecting other people who tracked women Just as you have it that is Russell Brand admitting to sleeping with a 16 year old and giving you some of his thought process Just because you've got a British accent and you sound like you're evolving doesn't save you from being a fucking creep ass Atoy like sorry, bro Yeah, and if you endorse this because he has a British accent and you like to move the fuck yourself And the fuck should he say like the angel Deliego Asia could send a 16 I flow with a 16 year old look at I mean you wouldn't fuck the yesterday if she was 15 And I never addressed in the point the legal age You know that be ice ice I stole her from ice ice like yo dog if you had to If your only thing was I fucked it when she was 16 that means at 15 and 364 days you still be you still be you just wait until the legal Yeah, you don't look at it as a moral thing you look at it as a legal thing right so I think it's disgusting this is disgusting, bro I was looking at this shit like I was wondering like is this gonna work And so I think why he's addressing it unfortunately probably will there's certain people that probably will listen to that like oh look He's fucking reform Russell brand fuck off your creep fuck out of here Russell brain no no your shit was fired like that anyway Yeah, which is a classic yes Mom And he ain't up there to where do we could just We don't forgive it regardless Like you know he's not so good you're conflicted. Yes, that's what I'm trying to say I'm saying when you saw my forgetting Sarah Marsha you thought of the person body that's on his way Like that why the miracle was on his dick at one I don't know why the miracle was on his To the Greek to if I'm not He was in some People like that was all right. He was he was on his way Every time I'm pointing to every time I see him he's just been an asshole. All right all of y'all get one Undo from somebody that is Unmonished from society for their behavior patterns. Oh my get one undo stop. You know what I'm gonna say. You know where I'm going give it to me Chris Brown That's the one undo. He's challenge It's nigga you would undo all right. Yes mark Okay, okay, Lucy K Yeah, I think mom might be a white guy too. You're gonna say undo. What do you mean like he could be welcome back into society? No, you didn't take off the grievance. We take it there. We've removed the Grimm it's I never did it didn't happen never happened No, it's many of those that a one I'm just going purely off talent it did that Kevin Spacey shit. I'm a spacey. Yeah, that's a good one Kevin Spacey over our Kelly Again, not one isolated incident gets a little tricky To take the camera to flow completely it would be it would be for me it would have been casuals. I would have said that Yeah, if it's and then but Kevin no, but Kevin Space I thought about that as well Okay, I'm gonna have a guard huh? Yes, I'm gonna fuck about Kevin Spacey, bro We don't make a scene I am Home is like he's one of the more talented people that they got out of here and our Kelly my calculation was different I didn't think about the person who are I care about the most I care about the person who I thought did the worst shit Oh, I was thinking someone who didn't do that bad of a shit, so shouldn't right as well as at Lucy I get it. I said neither is wrong. I think I was just approaching it a different way That's why I was thinking like who did the worst shit so we can undo that another one. Oh, go Kanye Oh, that's it. Yeah, by that other life definition by that which yeah Yeah, also a lot of things, but yeah, but it's all the same What are you talking? Not actually doing come on. Let me get us off this creepy shit. Please did I? Did you guys see the Because you know we had to talk about the marriage the marriage discussion in the hurricane commercial Then they went and found somehow other commercials She did I know that Did y'all see the commercial when uh during the election when she sat down with Hillary Clinton? No Is it a gun? Is it a knife? Is it a wallet? Yeah, this is your life? It ain't no secret It ain't no secret No secret Kill just living in that's a our man your Americans can no no no no This is your life That they said this one is honestly a lot worse than the chicken rap commercial You know, no, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's real headline of USA today in May and September 2016 Mary J blood just singing interview with Hillary Clinton is beyond awkward Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It also just sounded terrible. Oh my god, Mary and we got talk about it But boy, and then it's kicking him a greet ass I'm really shit I missed that one That's not my internet What's the I know we never talk about it, but what's the theme of the criticism? I don't know if I agree with it, but you tell me the beat actually I actually I disagree with it What are they saying? You might close it, please they're basically saying that um, she used them black people on her press run and she don't really commune with black Oh, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no what they saying after press run shit they're there they're on her for actually I could find it But they're on her for that whole Women oh that was all women is women in the work women are failing Because they're staying at home and they need to get out and get out back into the workplace and they miss and they miss Construo she didn't say they're failing because of that she saying that any women that are working remotely from home are doing themselves a disservice because They're not the same. I'm still unclear if that's how I pronounce the last name, but it's the shoofic I'm Dr. Sarah oric and the co-founder and CEO of movie to health and I'm a Latina entrepreneur and here are my takeaways about Emma Greed. I'll do a shit sandwich here I love that she is a black female entrepreneur who's an immigrant to the US and is amassing a fortune and growing huge companies She is everywhere so good on her for a great PR strategy now the shit part But I think is missing from all of these clips that I'm seeing is a context and acknowledgement of privilege I think what's getting people so Amped up is the fact that it sounds like right wing pick yourself up by the bootstraps Just go into the office and perform and you will succeed which is just not the case and specifically I think people that feel really betrayed by this are black women so yes Apparently she grew up poor, but she is drop dead gorgeous She also goes on to marry a white European male who grew up privileged and had already made a name This lady just pick it up on but the field that she goes into the beef is going to be made Financial security and connections then she goes on to found yes multi-billion dollar companies And that does require hard work But she co-founded then with Kardashians which means she had the proximity to Kardashians to say hey Let's go into business together and without the Kardashians in the equation sure she would have been successful But I don't know multi-billion dollar valuation successful just say And also she is an immigrant but a British immigrant and let's be real Americans fall for a British accident They think that whatever comes out That's the British accident is brilliant I just said that so right Well I wanted you to acknowledge me and have like yes on the very hard worker But I have these advantages acknowledge your privilege don't pretend it was all I think I got her off you That's right, she gave me a hug But they killing her for like they're in line. What was you what are you saying? No she's getting into the wise of it but it was the Get back into the workplace go to work stop working from home Yes she got killed for that I don't agree with no other shit And I'm not capable for but like she got next to the Kardashians I don't know how but it sounds like because she was good at what she did And yes they Without her she made a billion dollar She's a beautiful house You don't just end up next to people and like it's a cop out for people By the way she talked and told her story up here about how I started off over here then I learned this and I look like Before I went through the business Before I ever met a Kardashian I saw my first company for $24.26 million I was in my 20s Before I ever met a Kardashian So all of that other shit that they talking about is a bunch of ifs Well before she met a Kardashian her husband was who he was in the same field that she eventually went on to sell companies in I sold my company but she did it was again I don't want to do it I don't want to get in the way she met him in the brand I also have two of them and that's what makes this absolutely We now have no target in the 26 million dollar point deal Which is you cannot tell black women that they are not succeeding in the workforce because they want to work from home She didn't say that If y'all don't hear She didn't say that That's the problem She said that it is a detriment when they are working from home Because you're not being seen in the office and if you are not being seen in the office In her opinion that that's a detriment to you rising all the way up the corporate ladder Do you see how that could offend people? That don't mean it's not true though Especially from somebody I can see how it'll be offensive Yeah but it's not true But it's not true you don't just go to work do your job Nobody said that and that's where it's going to land And that's how you climb up That's not true That's not what she said It's we can't mean you can't keep saying this if you go say that's not what she said Let's pull up what she said and argue about what she said That's cool Because she said this We can do that She didn't say that's not what she said and argue about that I don't want to argue about she said that she didn't say that Because she said these things You are miss quoting the lady bro So let's find the points Let's find the points But based on what we said I can see how Black women specifically would be offended at that There's mad other things in the workplace that prevent Black women from climbing up the corporate ladder Of course It's not Black women are just lazy and want to stay at home She called it a woman to lose Just find the quote Don't make faces just find the quote so we can go He looking it up but that's the missed quote Shit that I have you fucked up and paying your picture Your words like they evil words Nobody she never said Black women are lazy and unadish That is somebody misinterpretation of what she said And then it catches when and somebody writes it And then some podcast to put it out Or some columnist puts it out And now they looking at the girl like she evil And she saying all this mean shit That's not what she said I think I'm going to have it You have the fork Because I keep saying just like I got a minute Okay Oh I was joking And what I think is that work from home culture Is a career killer for women And let me explain to you why Remembering that I have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds This is unkey Paul Raba Hundreds and hundreds of women that work for me Now what is happening is that we talk about All of this sort of upside of zoom culture But none of the rigidity of it And no one will really tell you That recreas require proximity and visibility You want to pay rise? You want the next promotion? You want the big corner off - You're not going to face, guess what? You need to be there. You might not want to hear it, because it might be comfortable in your living room. But the facts are the facts, and I'm not here to sugarco information or to load within an awkward toxic hostility. - So you almost don't like it's a weighty also? - I don't want to say push us out, but it's almost slowly a way to be like, you're not needed or you don't really, it's not a, there's no urgency because you're aware. - It's eroding the potential for women to be successful. - Interesting. - Period. - I'm sorry. - Hmm. - Now one time does she call anybody lazy? - And she didn't say black women. She's saying women. - She's speaking to, - In general, - She's saying that in a good old boys club, it's easy to be overlooked if you home. If you in these offices and you rubbing shoulders and you making moves and your voice is heard and you in the boardrooms and you being loud and you being visible, it's harder for them to overlook you if you are being visible. Somebody's taking what she said and mad negative connotation to what she said in my opinion. - To me it's, if I give her the most generous read, which is that she's just trying to say, "Hey look, there's a thing here that will help you be more successful." I just think there's a blind spot in the communication of it because I do think when you talk about, because I think she's right, I mean, if your home is easier to be ignored from home, I don't disagree with that. I think the question is why are women at home? And if you don't acknowledge that, we talk about this up here all the time, like when we talk about people selling drugs, right? We always say, yeah, but why is this person selling drugs? 'Cause they only got a cucumber in their refrigerator. They got all these situations. So it's easy to say don't sell drugs. The hard part is like, why are you selling drugs? We don't think about the circumstances they get them there. What are the circumstances they have women working from home? But also when women get to work, what are the things that make them still face challenges in being successful? 'Cause not like if women come to work, patriarchy's not going to exist. Pay different, which is aren't going to exist. Come into work isn't the anecdote. - That's the backlash. - And to do the excuse. - But that's not what she says. - You know where Nett, I can't understand that, but that's not what she says. - She says she just says things. - Dang it. - The hard part. - Makes it harder for you. - Yes. - That's it. - Well, all these things we gotta overcome and all of this adversity, like the pay scale differential, the patriarchy, the white good old boys club, with all of these obstacles, you think staying at home is gonna make it easier for you? No, it's thereby making it harder for you to get overlooked for the proper promotion or for the other stuff, because you're not physically in the workplace, rubbing shoulders and demanding to be seen. - I see how that could be harder. - Like, yo dawg, we take this shit and start spending it and then they spread it out something to it, this person will add something to it, we just played it. - Yeah. - So Antoine was not making this up, that's not for my. - We just hear different things from it. - Yeah, from my perspective, that's not what she's saying at all. - I can see how people can hear that and be offended. - And that's why I have a question for me. - And that's why that first woman you played to me matters, even though I don't love non-black people telling black people to acknowledge their privilege. That always makes you a little uneasy. - What is tons of millions of black people? - I know there's examples of it too, from which, but I do think the person saying it, the messenger matters, you know, and if somebody who is unusually attractive from what I hear, I don't see beauty, someone who has tons of money, someone who's well connected as all these resources and isn't from here, so they can't say why I can relate, I came up from this place. Dude, you know she came from the slums, he's London. - And it's mad, but why not? - But that's what I'm saying, why not? - And it's hard for her to hear that person say, "Well, why?" - "If you do this extra thing, you'll be successful." - Yeah. - 'Cause it comes, it comes. - It's all for that. - Why don't you look at it as inspiration? - Oh, man, near what she. - Why don't we look at it? - No, she said, she said, "If you do this thing, you'll be more successful. If you go into the office, you'll be more successful." - Well, I'm asking you about that. - I'm being her generously. I don't think she had bad intention. I'm just like I said, I just think the messenger does affect how people hurt her. - Why? - Why don't people not look at it as inspiration? - Oh, why do we put the difference, so let me ask you this. She was up here, how? She's 42, I think. She said she was married 27 years. - Maybe so. - Right? - She said she was married 17 years. - Yeah. - Alright, me. - So that means she was already as kicking in business before she got married. - Yeah. - One, I don't know how much her husband had when he walked into that marriage. - Yeah. - I don't know that. - Isn't it also a little bit? - He was in. - I'm telling you, he was in. - He was in. - I'm telling you. - She might have added to what the fuck he made. - Possibly. - I'm sure she did. - And, yo, Doug, we start finding any and everything that separated us saying, yo, she's super attractive. She's an attractive lady, but it's way prettier than Emma Greed that have not-- - What is it? - It's way prettier than Emma Greed that have not excelled in business to the degree in which she's excelled. So I don't want it, we keep putting up. - It's finishing. - Yeah, yo. - I do think, alright, Kim Kardashian works really hard. We agree on that. - Yes. - Yes. - I think so. - Yes. - But if Kim Kardashian gave a motivational speech to young people and said, yo, some of y'all wants to see in your business because you're not working hard enough, you need to just grind it out. I would hear that different from Kim Kardashian than I would from-- - It's all feels successful to me. - From another one. - Yes, horrible. - But see, I think part of feminism, particularly more radical and progressive forms of feminism that it's not just about girl power, it's also about acknowledging political economy, it's also about acknowledging privilege and power and all these other things. And white women lean in Cheryl Sandberg feminism is different than other kinds of feminism. Again, I agree that some of this does feel like it's personal and it's almost like they're holding against her, some things that she ain't got nothing to do with. I'm just saying the message, the messenger and the message is you, we often talk about it here, does matter. And I think someone who's-- - Especially when that's your message on nothing but black platforms that you're going to. - It does come off away. - It just comes off. - You're saying that to your black audience or a black audience. - If she said that, you're not saying that. - You're not saying that. - Platforms. Like where she left before she came over here speaking, I wasn't a black platform. - She's going on a run. - But she's on a run. - You get what they have to do with what I said. - You're saying that she's-- - We can't speak to what she said when she said down with William Morris. - What is that man? - We don't know what she said. - But I think that's my point though. People, she could have said the same thing over there. You don't know 'cause you didn't watch. - Yeah, but that's the point. - But like you said, - We know where she said it, which was key key. - I can't remember. - And other black platforms. - I don't understand. - You said the message may not have changed. - He said, I know she didn't say that on the-- - Well, I'm saying, let's assume she's-- - 'Cause she's a speak black woman here. That's why I'm saying, she never said black women. She said women. So she could go on these white platforms and still say women. - Yeah. - But because y'all don't watch them white platforms to hear her say women, y'all won't hear it. - No, I don't. - So when she says women on a black platform, you know, she's singling out black women. - No, I don't think she's singling out black women. What I'm saying is, when you give a general message to everybody and not-- - Treating people who are different as if they're the same can be just as oppressive as taking people who are the same and treating them differently. - Just before you-- - Just before you-- - Let me focus on the bottom. - Yeah, I know when I'm about to get triple teen pause. - I'm agreeing. - I know you're not-- - There's no triple team. - So what I'm saying is that, I agree her message probably was the same across every platform. What I would suggest is sometimes it shouldn't be. Sometimes when I'm talking to a group of middle class white women who have a certain set of challenges, it might be different than working black women who have a different set of challenges. Sometimes the working hard thing, if I'm telling everybody that the primary key to your success is working harder, I'm oversimplifying it, I know. But it's working harder. That can sometimes be used as an excuse, especially against women of color, to ignore the other things that make women of color face challenges other than just not working hard. - And that's what they're saying. - And that becomes a problem. I'm not saying that was her intention. - Can her message be saying, I know those things, but staying home makes it harder on top of those. - And I think if she had said, look, I notice all these other factors, but also you're not doing yourself any favors, that would be different. - She'd be received. - She'd be received differently than just saying that. And it's to say, I'm not assuming, I'm reading her generously. I think that is what she's saying. - I think so. - But that's not what she's saying. And if you didn't have the benefit of sitting with her for two and a half hours and kind of knowing her a little bit, I think I could see how the message gets you. - She didn't say anything to the contrary either though. - I know, but the default position of the world is just work harder. - No, listen to this. If she was a white man, they would say, yo, you're a white man. She's not a white man. If she was a white lady, they would say, yo, you're a white lady. She was a black lady that's from the fucking ghetto. We're now saying, yo, you are black lady from the ghetto, but you're pretty. It's always gonna be some one thing that is contrary that we go on lean on. Dog, why can't it just be your, her message was her message to people and they might have interpreted how they want to interpret it. But she didn't say the things that people are saying. - Because Nick is what to make, Nick is what to make. - Yeah, it's what they said in that home, not getting up. - Like hell. - And that's it, Nick is what to make excuses of why they said in that home, not getting up and going out there and doing something. - Go off the phone. - But before we do it, pacifying the people that's making that excuse. - I disagree. - And also there are hundreds of things that are preventing women from climbing the corporate ladder. - Of course, of course, but then why be mad at somebody that made it and is motivating you out, because she's not identifying or picking up specifics of the injustices that black women face at the workplace. - But that's the point. - Why do we look, we know already. - The people know what they're doing. - But we don't know. - We don't know. - We don't know. - That's a three-month-old woman knows. - Who knows? - You know. - Who knows, though? - She knows. - And that's what you're saying. - She's in bigger rooms than any of us has ever been in. - Mm-hmm. - She knows. She started from the fucking bottom, my nigga, and got to the top. And everywhere in the middle, she is the perfect person that has an eye of what all of these rooms are saying. - I do remember speaking about something up here about when she goes to meetings, they would give the check to the white guy. - Yeah, yeah. - When they would sit down at the table. - No, her assistant is getting a check. - Right. - No, I get that. I get that. I'll appear at "I Don't Have A Critical," what she says. It's in that other space who probably may not-- I have watched our three hours. You said again, she wasn't talking to men. It's not men that are in uproar. Men, this ain't our fight. This ain't our, the man, man. The women are the people that are, yeah. - They kill them. - Yeah. - So if I'm a woman that made it, and I say, hey ladies, I'ma tell you, y'all know, doing yourselves, no favors working from home. Like, it's only gonna make it harder for you. That's a problem. - I think the context in which it said matters, this all, okay. - I don't have a problem with that advice per se, no. Right, telling people, - Let us hear you say it in the white room. Right. Let us hear you say it over here. - But Mark, - It shouldn't just be in the-- - But Mark, well if that's the case, Mark, that's a contradiction, 'cause Mark's saying-- - It's not a contradiction, 'cause he's right. - He's saying-- - And wouldn't say it in the white room. - He's saying you shouldn't say the same things in the white room that you're saying in the black room. That's what Mark is saying. - I agree. - Sometimes the audience matters. So don't say, "Yo, let me hear you say it in the white room, and the black room, even though we don't know she's not doing it, 'cause we don't listen to it. - Never saying nothing should be said in both rooms. - No, no, no, no. - No, no, no. - What I'm saying is Mark is saying, "Contention upon who your audience is, your message could be catered to that particular artist." - I do think the context matters. - I agree with you. - And then who you told the two matters? - You didn't do the matter. - She's done white podcasts, and we haven't heard it. - She said it in the L Magazine. - She said, "What the L Magazine?" - The initial comment. - She said, "That ain't black." - That was not black. - And so she said it to her white. - So let's, if you're doing it, then if you can't win, bro. - Listen, so I mean, one of the factors I think that makes women not go into the office is raising families. And often not having a partner, it's usually that example. I'm not refuting what you're saying. I'm just adding something to it. A lot of women don't have partners who do a lot of the parenting or a co-parenting, or certainly not the care work. So now Emma has very specifically said that she limits the amount of time she spends with her kids, which is a very specific choice. Some would argue a very, it's basically saying to be successful, I have to move more like men move. - She said, "Yo, I believe my kids are good with 20 minutes a day," or some shit like that. - Yeah, a lot of people would say, "That's not a healthier, good choice." So she's making a, I'm not, and I'm not criticizing how she chooses to raise her kids. All I'm saying is that that's a very particular set of choices that I think you should also acknowledge when you're telling these women to go into the office. That you may have to make a difference in choices about parenting. - She said that too. - I also think so. - Yeah, if I'm sorry to harp, but I also think so. The only reason why you made it is because your pretty is also-- - It's horror. - No, that's fucked up. - I'm not. - I'm not. - I'm not. But the thing is, I think all of those factors have to be at least considered. When I, if we talk about teaching McConnell really, if I were getting a pep talk from a player about working hard to get to the NBA, T.J. McConnell tells me that shit at six feet tall, flat, no, you know what I mean? Work hard, not super athletic, all that other shit. I'ma hear that different than if an NBA-Nepal baby says it. Even though I know Kobe worked hard, even I know Clay Time's to work hard. I'ma hear that shit different if it's coming from somebody who didn't go through what I went through, and I, again, she had a lot of hardship. I'm not taking that away from her either. I'm just saying how the audience receives it. Matt, a flip set of here just admitted to go and say that people are just trying to make excuses because they don't want to just go into work. That perspective is the thing that we worry about. That people will think that all these women staying home is not because of all these factors, but because they're just too lazy or don't have the initiative to go in. Or to Joe's point or to Joe's point. And please, they are making a, we could or to Joe's point, you're making a conscious and deliberate decision to only see your kids 20 minutes a day and go to work for 16 hours a day. We're not going to look at that like that's the sacrifice, but you're going to look at it and say, yo, some of these people elect to stay home with their kids, which is not a bad thing. She didn't elect to do that and she's reaping other benefits and she could have other detriment. It's your conscious deliberate choices that are shaping your life, but we're not going to manage one for making one choice and then not. Yeah, I'm not. I'm just saying acknowledge that. Yeah, because everybody don't have the same choices. Yes, the other. I don't really want to use marks analogy that he may, he's saying women are staying home because of us. But when you said it, you said some women choose to or choose them to elect to stay home. Sure. Some don't have that. Some it's not a choice. Some where you are in corporate America and what your level is and what your economic background is. And it's like she's talking to the people that are choosing to are climbing up the fine. I am like these exotic girls. No, I don't. You don't do that. You don't do. You're all like a moody. So just a guy. You don't show. So you're all found in my track. She was good. She wasn't. But she wasn't. I just make. I was. She was pretty. What's she? I said that. I don't care enough about it. But I'm. Yeah, but you said it. You know what that does, Johnny. I know you about the series. It's not what's so important. But I wanted to bring up. But something I think is significant. And that is Dreia is now a chef. I feel like we can't have a serious podcast without addressing this. Okay, well, I'll wait from Dreia. Please. Long way, boy. And she only a chef because she wanted to stay home. And she said it was hard. So she got near Got some ox tail recipes. And that's why she's staying home. I don't know. Oxail singular. That's not. I googled it the other day. And it's not. The internet responded to you really. No, I don't. It's singular. It's singular. I said, why you won't take knowledge from nobody? I think I googled it. You won't either. Don't say ox tail. You have more point than Google. Don't say ox tail. You're not smarter than the mock-up. It's in the fucking dictionary. I don't think I'm. I just don't want to say my disagree with you. They can disagree with you. Don't say ox tail. That's it. Somebody that loves you. It's time to tell me. Joe Buttons were over the fucking dictionary's word. Don't say it again. Got you. That's it. I don't even look up whatever dictionary you want. Don't say ox tails. And that's the fucking end of it. No, it's not the end of it. They got to say what the fuck I want. And I'm not going to say you are a fucking dictionary. Fucking idiot. I'm not going to agree with you. Because I don't agree with you. Because there's no S fucking you fucking. So, ox tail is the plural of ox tail. Joe, I don't give a fuck about ox tail. And fish is the plural of fish. Do we have to go to just pull shit? Why are you so defensive about? No S being on you. You are being performative. And again, I told you 70 times ox tail is ox tail. I know a fight with me about it. Because you looked it up or Google. No, I look like a mixture of Google. And you look it up and it's dead. And you look it in the wrong. Don't say it again. Because you're not going to sound like a prodigy. Whatever fuck you was trying to get us thinking what? It's no hands on it. You said the fuck up. You shot the fuck up. You're the dictionary. You stupid bitch. Damn it. Take your word and take your word. No, it's not the end. I know. It isn't that. No, there isn't that. No, there isn't. You are wrong. Get up and dump. Get up from my finger. You're not trying to get your finger. That's not it. You stupid mother fuck. You went to college. Don't do the fucking ass. You fucking impossible. You dummy. You didn't go to college. You never take your tip. You drop out. Damn it. Over fucking wet stuff. You're fucking dumb. What poor fox tail is. You want to know? It's fucking ox tail. Stupid. Yo, you dumb, yo. Shit. You know what we argue? He's on the city of information. You think everything in the tug of war. What does that say? God. Why is this saying? Wait a minute. It's the smarter than you. Don't you say it again. I'm talking to Eddie. You just don't say it again. It's the truth. You talking to somebody on the street telling them what that fuck plural means. Fuck outta here, nigga. Both ox tail and ox tail is a whiley using acceptable. But they're off their refer to the dish differently. Yo, niggas are. Fuck. I'm a guy. It's for ox. Again. Holy shit. That's gonna be good meme. No, it's not. Yeah. I mean, the answer is actually somewhere in the middle, but I don't want to get it down that road. I'm gonna leave it alone. It's like fish and fishes. Fishes sometimes. It's correct. However, I've said that I've never really used my line count. I know. But it's correct. Fish is, it's correct. Sometimes it. I've never heard of my line count. For example, if I'm talking about two different species, I can say like, fish is just like ox tail. I understand it. I don't want to say anybody off. I know it's a trigger. These niggas are nuts. These niggas are insane. I'm the farthest from the world. But like a lot of times when you say ox tail is some of the different pieces of meat. Like if I'm in the butcher shop, I might say that. But if I said I have a pot of ox tail, I would say I have a pot of ox tail. I wouldn't say I have a pot of ox tails. The plural would be ox tail. No, that's it again. But. But if I were at the butcher, I might say, give me those three ox tails. I think Mark's corrected this. Mark's corrected this. Mark's correct. Mark's correct. I was correct last week. I just want to see yo, I mean, he's at a bram. Mark. He's red. Yo. Yo, whatever. What if I take them three ox tails from the butcher, go home and make them in one pot. Now I got them ox tails turned to an ox tail. All right. I love that we have a doctor here now. He's been a great speaking of doctors in all seriousness. Speaking of we skipped drain. We sure do. Oh. I was scared to go back. Say nothing about Dray, I think we did the best job. That we could have done True In shot at the drake I just a little bit. We love drove. We love drake, but it's a ball-of-moo. Why the? Cuz she used to be clowned for draperly plate saves a thing we here her cooking history Legendarily legendary I'm not as legendary - It was Nancy like that? - She was supposed to play it so you wouldn't need your dog. - Yeah. Nobody ate it up here before. - No. - I could always speak for me. I didn't know. - I, I, no. - You had a drain plate? - No, I didn't even know drain mate plates. I'm not familiar. I just saw on the board, drain and chef, I wanted to talk about it. Thanksgiving every year, you know. It was, it was, it was like, - I did taste. - Then, drain things given every year, but the story that is always gonna haunt her is when you shoot with her kids. - Yeah. - That's how a lot of people found out about. So people are clowning like, now you wanna cook. - Yeah. - People like, yeah, you cook, now you cookin'. After you went out to the end left. - And, - Was a chef where I did some shit. You remember the fire. - Yeah, yeah. - Legendary store. - Yeah. - I see this as a, - Like that bad. - Yeah. - Lean into it. - Lean into it and take in something that you're bad at and making it something that you're good at. And I think that's empowering. - That's what a chef did. - I loved that. - And it's privilege. - Yeah. - She left that house in Williamson. - I'm a great, I'm a great, I'm great. - I know. - Why? - Because she wasn't cute. She could've gotten to culinary school. - She was the man, wasn't her man. Culinary school is not that expensive. - If a man wasn't her man. - All right. - It's a sexist again. - Oh man. - Oh man. - I ain't fucking wanna wanna. - Go ahead. - She could've got into culinary school. - So, financial aid? - Yeah. - Shout to Drake. - Shout to Drake. - Shout to Drake. - Absolutely. - In two games. - And Jalen Green. - And Rockets is sick watching him. (laughs) - I thought that was horrible, church. - Rockets gotta be sick. - Yeah. - Maybe later another day I'll beat y'all down about how LeBron is the greatest all time. And him winning two playoff games with his son is with no Reeves and no Luca is up there on some of the best legacy shit that any of us will ever see in sports. - I don't know about some of our lives. - I don't know in some part, but him. - You don't know about. - If Ronnie were there with Dave won the games? - Well, we don't know. We're not really talking about that. - That's what I'm saying. I'm not taking that away from Brian. I'm just saying to me, the legacy thing here is that with down two star players, two of the three best players on the team, LeBron is carrying them to victories. I'm saying salute to LeBron. - I see them more fired at my son. - Son is on the fucking brain. - It's fire on him. - But he got shit to do with his soul. - Yes, it does. - He gotta, he gotta be doing what he does. - Who was dead? - Y'all know why I say he did it? - Huh? - Never mind. - No, no, no. - Nobody did it. - Who did it? - So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so we got us one of the championship. Y'all was saying, that's like saying, when y'all just want to championship, man, him doing that with his two brothers. - His brother and his son that came out his nuts is two different things. - Yeah, Mark, you, why is nuts doing that too staying there? - 'Cause that's where your son comes from. - 'Cause what we're saying is, the point of it is not only are you playing with your offspring, you've been playing and dominating long enough for your 21-year-old, 22-year-old son to be on the board with you. - That's what, that's what, that's what, that's what, that's what, you're saying, him, and just as a mark on how old he is. - They're, they're saying, you've converted me, I'm saying, now I get what you're saying. I'm saying the same thing. I thought you were saying, like, him and the Bronny took him to the next game, that's what I was like, no, running is to do this. - No, it's just not. - It's not shit that you could be in the game. - I agree. - At the top of your game, I was so long that you're son. - You're old enough for your son to be there. - He wasn't, it was for a playoff game with him. - I think y'all was trying to make Bronny, it's like saying him and Bronny combined for 29 points. 14 rebounds, it's like, yeah, no, no, no. But yeah, it's a little bit more. - You look for any opportunity to kick that man back in. - I'm not kicking his back in, it's a little bit more. - No, we gotta listen. Bronny James, Barack Obama, Brian McNeigh, Mark got a little list of people there, he just kicked their back in, it's true. - So is their name come up, it's true. - Listen, speaking of sports, speaking of sports, we back at it. - Superb athlete. - I would say he used to be all men. - Baby, she's so got to the ball. - What's she having a ring? - Her wife Jen is a superb athlete. - That's the way she used to be. - Baby, she's still got the curve short, the way you did. Which sports do you think Jay could beat you at now? - Alright, that one was too bad, but this lady is fucking nuts, Diana Rucini, the jaw defender. - Oh, yeah, I did. - This lady is nuts that y'all defend. - And even the first round of pictures, I was like, he might have just been cleaning something off her face. - No. - They got pictures of them from six years back. - No. - No, they got letters and emails and-- - It's hard to hit. - It's hard to message this shit. - I'm trying to shoot the guys in bail, man, but it's hard. - That's his-- - That's his dad hurt some bail, yeah? - That's his shit. - Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. - Yeah, it's my work. - That's his shit. - Baby, his name, the baby Michael. - That's a common name. (laughing) - Nah, that's his work. That's his work. - That ain't his work. - That's wow. - Speaking of that ain't work. - That's his book honestly, yeah, that's his job. - Yeah, that ain't work. That ain't so hard, wasn't it? - I was just kidding, man. - I mean, saying it's a common name, but that tweet wasn't so common, the tweet up. Oh, I'm just staring at my son, my beautiful son, Michael, thinking what Michael had the best player slash, was the best player slash coach of all time in the NFL. (laughing) (laughing) - Listen, there's always room for doubt. - That's see, no it's not. That room door is locked, nigga. You crazy. So if you're a husband right now, you're thinking like, - Oh no, her husband has this CIA on her. That's where all he's gonna come from. - You name our son after. She probably was like, you know what? - Looks like a Michael is telling. - Looks like a Michael. He looks like a Michael. I think what do you think about Michael? - It's obviously doesn't look like a Michael 'cause that would get complicated. - Bro, I'm getting the D in, A. - Oh, but you've been fit as soon as quick. - It's immediately, bro. - He must string those letters to ground the game and test immediately, bro. - You gotta just, you know, take good look. - He's got that line backer neck. - He's so crazy. - Not he's just crazy. - You can show off he's a line backer from the birth. - It did instantly remind me of Cheyenne Brian saying that nigga's married to Crom. I know. - The ball and love, the ball and love. - The ball and love that. - It did, it did take me back to that. I understood, I picked up what she was trying to put down, but that way I get that. This is a prime example of that. This is his girl. - That's his girl. - That's his girl. - My thing. - You can go marry who you wanna marry, go have your kids, but that's mine. - Yeah, that's his work. - No comment. - Yeah. - I don't wanna get sued on work. - Speaking of, I can see how one would take it that way. It does appear. - They've been married since '99. Mike, Mike Vraeber and his wife. - What the hell, wait, what the hell? - Yeah, what the hell is that? - It's saying 27 years. This is a very long time. - Well you got married forever, you know? - No indeed. - Indeed indeed. - I'm trying to find Vrae Bulls bullshit cop out that he did at the draft. - Oh yeah, that was crazy. - That was absolutely nuts. I'm trying to find it and I'm having some trouble. - Yeah, well it was the pre drafts. You know, they talked to the coaches and GMs, usually pre drafts, so it was the same. - I got it. - You got it, I got it. - They brought it up. - Okay. - Thank you. Thank you for your patience that you've shown and they have personal and private matter. - No one's shown you any patience, Mike. - Vrae Bull, I know that's easy for you. - And I respect that and I appreciate your efforts in doing so. - I understand I could address you guys soon, but it was important to me. I had a conversation with the players which I get yesterday. - And my wife is all my ass. - And he began our offseason program, which everyone is excited to be a part of. Stacy had mentioned the players' availability. - I think so. - I remember my intention, I had them speak to you or address you before I did. And so I asked him to come today and to talk with you. - At the same token though, what did you want him to say? - Yeah, that's true. - The draft, the weekend of the draft. - Well, so glad you asked. I mean, and I'm a patriot who's here to be clear. I don't wanna see this go well, but. - They're killing him, they're killing him because his initial response to all of this was this is a laughing matter. All of this is laugh. She was getting taken leave from work, handling this shit for real. And he was like, uh, the same. - Don't worry, nothing burger. He went from nothing burger, this is a laughing matter to I need to check myself in a facility. - That's great. - I'm taking time. - During the draft. - Go to cheetah rehab is crazy. - So that's why they kick it as ass. - How fast he changed that position up and down. - Well, the pictures and stuff, you know. The evidence started to make it a little bit more. - Yeah. - She got that good PR. - Doc, you gonna live with the lie. - Sometimes the truth come talk to you. - Yeah, you gotta live with the lie. Stand up, nigga. - Right, that shit I was long as you can. - It sucks when they fucking you get caught with your favorite joint. - Who wants to throw it at you? - Sometimes they catch you with a joint. Yeah, you better stop talking to her, all right, bitch. - All right, bitch. She was on the outside my book anyway. But when they catch you with your joint that you kind of love, and they try, man, this is gonna be a hard one, I mean, make a choice. - I'm choosing you, bro. It was a play, it was a tight, it was a nail fight. (laughing) - It was a photo finish. - Yeah. - You got to use your girl, but you ain't gonna cut cut her off immediately. You wanna drag that out, say goodbye, have some fucking last time sex or something. When they find you with you, when they get your favorite join, this is joint that now you gotta go and rehab over. He missed her. - She didn't, she ain't still. - Oh, that's a crazy shit. - My nigga, she wasn't in no rattison. - They was at the private shindig in a hot tub, Dolor looking at their mountain tops. - And have you all been seeing the show? - They don't found a compilation of her like disin' her husband. - Yeah, we played that before. - Yeah, we see. - No, they found more. - There's a lot more. - Oh yeah, I'm more impressed by the photo. They're finding photos from like little bar divers and all types of shit. - I think it's got you me. - And the expensive hotel, that P.I. had to pay to get up in there. - Word, somebody paid it. - What has been this past, what has the thing, for somebody that have all of these picks for all of these years, somebody been on you for a minute. - Word. - Somebody has suspected things for a while, been hoarding the evidence, and now week by week or month by month, it's slowly slowly placing this out. So they've been compiling us. - Yeah, yeah. - And it was crazy one and two, I don't know if one is in about the Patriot waiting on more. - This is the Patriot waiting. - What the hell is it? - I mean, it's actually, - 25 years. - Right, the original Patriot. - And the United States, - You wanna get the, - Let's triple on top. - Y'all can, y'all can, y'all can. - What are we talking about? - Yeah, it's a regular shit. - Come on, be out, thanks, give it. - Yep. - Don't, - What are you talking about, they, - You're number one though. - Yeah, that's right. - Yeah. - Anyway, Dianne and Rouseney, you're done. - Yeah, they did that shit. - My rainbow, you'll be back, but the second day, Rob and Krav get done so from you, you done so. - Shit. - Krav's life, you know what I'm talking about. - That's totally different. - Krav's going to the little happy and enjoying and homeboy, co-s and a lot. - So, so, so, so, so, so, so, - Krav is saying, oh my God, I understand. - We'll get through this. - Yeah. - I get it. - You just took my team to the Super Bowl with a second year Krav back here. - Yeah, we'll get through this. - Yo, this next time. - I'm gonna tell you how to do it. - Yeah, this way you fucked up it. - What? - Right. - The Super Bowl, appearance, save them from all the screaming, Robert Krav wanted to do all year about Stefan Digs to Mike Breglin. - Mm-hmm. - Robert Krav been wanting to go off all year about the behavior he has seen from some of these people. - I could believe he did that because y'all cooking and I'm a mom, I'm a bitch here. - But the day the season is over, but Mike Breglin, all this shit coming out about him, for me, made all the sense in the world. Why you just turn a blind eye to some of the things that was going on in the team, you preoccupied. - Yeah. - That's the thing people always sleep on about cheating or just, well, cheating. To cheat, you're preoccupied. And if you're gonna be preoccupied, boy, your box is better be checked. You better have all the ducks in the row. Bitch, you should tell me that my 20's when I was broke. It's like, they were like, "You can't cheat." (laughing) - You can't cheat. The niggas that's cheating, they grow up, it's taking kill, build a save, cards pay, rent a save, the kids are happy, private school, all the box will check. You can't cheat. So, nah. Anyway. - Before we go, I just had a public service announcement. - Who died, mom? - No, no, no, no, this is good news. This is good news. - Thank God. - If you are a black male senior in high school or you're more likely for our audience, one of your children is a black male senior in high school. It is an opportunity for you to get a free ride to college and to medical slash dental school. So Tennessee State University and Mahari Medical College have an accelerated seven year MD or DDS program with a full ride potential. And right now they don't have any black male applicants. So basically, with this program, you get to go to undergrad and medical school or dental school for free. But there are no black male applicants right now. So they're looking for people. So if you know somebody who's a black male high school senior who has a 3.5 GPA or higher and a 28 ACT score or higher, and you wanna be a doctor or a dentist, please, please, please, reach out and connect for this program. The best way to connect this to go on Instagram, the black doctor, the ACT sign is the black doctor. And at least look into it. - That's dope, man. - I'll cover your books. - That's fire. - And it should cover your books. - I'll pay for the books. - It should pay for the books. - Yeah, you go a lot. - Let's split it. - You get to the bag, boy. I'll pay for the book. (laughing) - My wife, he just won't say that. - Why are you talking to him? - Why are you just saying? - Hold up, put me in here. - That's better. - I just popped up with the shave, bro. (laughing) - You can say public services. - He said hold up for many of y'all. - I'm just a breake doos. - I didn't say it was a breake. - He's on a fucking board. - You were literally a bachelor's student. - Like Dr. Brogare, right there. - Listen y'all, the Tuskegee Airman are not black anymore. So we need some, if you scored a 900 on the ACT, the SAT, please take your way to Tennessee College University because we run out of black. - He's just teasing pilots. - We don't have no pilots, no more, y'all. - Seeds, they're gonna pay, they're gonna give you health, finish your dental, they're gonna do-- - We'll come to the books. - It's gonna buy some books, give you a hoodie of some shit. - I'll put it on the books as well. - I'll put some more. - You got enough on your plate, man. When that school was built, we'll find some shit. - It's almost done. I really appreciate you doing that. - No, listen, I'm remodeling it. So that's all it is. - Oh, that's the most. I'll be in Trinidad next month. - It's fast, fast, and now-- - Or the way's what we thought of paying-- - You know that you said you still working on out there? - I thought you said you was gonna contribute, yeah, help. - Yeah, why that nigga's hanging on there? - You said you, I'm gonna donate the ox tail. - Nah, okay. - Oh, you did the Caribbean. - Four, four, right? - I just wanna borrow the ox tail. - Four ox tail. - You know what I'm saying? They were volunteering to teach at Umar School. - I will. - They just be saying shit trying to fuck that. - But you know why he won, DG, you know why he won. - You know why he won, DG. - 'Cause I'm a teacher, you killed me, you killed me, you killed me, Umar, so I'm gonna come work for you. - Nah, we can, I'm just saying I bought the ox tail. - He got a bop. - He got a, that's more reason why I wouldn't want to do that. - No, it's not true. - Why, how about I just want to-- - But anyway, no, you don't have to wanna just want to help the black young men that make me do what they need. - So why don't you help me, exactly. Why don't you help me in my initiative? - We offer two. - Give me one of you on me. - Yeah. - Oh, for God's sake, I'm gonna say shit. - Did it again, we're both sorry. - I'm gonna say shit. - Yo, I know that, this person about to ask you about is a friend of the show, but I have to ask, I think it's a reading the board, you know what I'm gonna say, man. - I didn't know it was a bad thing. - Did anybody want to say man? - See, Mandy B, on stage with spectacular on top of him. I mean, he was on top of her. It looked like he's spitting her mouth. She swallowed it. She later came back to say that was honey, she also came back to say, "Hey, I'm an nasty bitch." - And she consented to it on the judge. - Don't judge me, it was consensual. It was planned. That's a friend of mine. He was a complete gentleman at whole crew. She spoke really highly of the whole ordeal, which maybe think that somebody was twisting that and to be something else. You know, let me go. - Of course, yeah. But outside of that, like, what did you all just think of? - It was spectacular doing that demand. - I don't get it. Why are you asking questions? - That's not what I mean to say. - Well, anytime people are spitting and other people's mouths is a conversation. - You tried to actually be taken down with us? - Especially on stage. No, I don't care about that. - Oh. - Especially on the stage. - I thought it was dope. - I love the show. - She had a good time. He put on a great show. They put on a great show, everybody. And I love to see people play that shit out in public. I think it's dope. She like it. - Are you saying that, Mandy? - I'm just saying that because it's Mandy that did it, like, who she is. - Mandy, you're a nasty bitch, yo. I ain't got bloody. - Just chop my leg. - I understand doing it, and that's your friend. But. - Siddhu da her. - The spectacular? - I'm not. - Siddhu da. - The spectacular. - I'm not King Shaman, nobody. - I'm not King Shaman. - Yeah. - If y'all care. - Really? - Mandy, I'm starting my own podcast soon by myself. (laughing) - Yeah. - Yeah, they can't hold me back for my whole life. I'm starting to part by myself where I speak about the things that I won't with them. And you on the list. - But why you want us to say this? - You. - You. - Mandy, you. - I'm gonna talk about that kids. - I'm gonna talk. - You didn't just say, I wanna know. - I'm gonna talk about the Uno game. (laughing) - That happened after, oh I went backstage and played Uno. - Fuck, play the Uno backstage. - Mandy, stop. You said that shit. - Yeah, man, get down. - Yeah, man. - Man, I'm coming in here to talk about all the big girls. Happy lap. It's class stop me. It's we going tomorrow morning. It's 6 a.m. here, you flying in your socks all day. - 6 a.m. we first, you gonna be in the letter, right? - She's not in the letter. - Spectacular boy. - She got me. - She got me. - That was a lot of fun. We're glad you're having fun. - Shout the man. - Shout the man. - Talking about you, at least on a rewind episode. Something. - You gonna bring up here for rewind? - No. - Oh, I'm talking about you. - But you extend to get. - No, I don't rewind. That's a different rewind. - Now to be fine. - Anyway, good boys, move on. Mark, what you saying? - I was just saying, did he had a 100 million dollar lawsuit against NBC Universal for that documentary that was made against him and the judge threw it out, saying the case lacked merit. And I just thought it was interesting because the reason why they, 'cause he did his basic saying, this shit fucked up my career. And they pointed to Ditty's own testimony where he admitted, basically they were saying that the damage was, before the documentary happened, the damage is already done to Ditty's career. And that during the trial, Ditty himself said that he was the problem. And so they basically threw it out. - Oh, they used, oh shit. - I think his case really had merit. - Oh shit, sorry. - You think he fucked his career up? - No, I think that, 'cause didn't a doc drop before his verdict, right? - Yeah. - I think that's horrible. For them to have released that documentary before he got sentenced and before his verdict, I think that could have potentially played a part in that. - All right, but that ain't fucking my career up. That's some legal shit that I wanna go and get a mischief. - I'm gonna go for a few years. - Now I'm saying I might wanna go and say the jury pool was tainted by whatever, whatever, cool. My career was fucked up before that doc. - Yeah, and specifically his quote was, because of my decisions, I lost my freedom. I lost my career, I totally destroyed my reputation. He wrote that to the judge. - His career was fucked up when that video dropped. You fucked yourself right there. - Yeah, he fucked himself right there. - But also there has to be space for journalists. It goes back to the back of the night thing. There has to be space for journalists to do work and to be able to stay, and to be able to trade ideas and get different opinions and all for perspectives. They didn't say anything to slander him. There was nothing liable to say about it. So, you know. - You don't think not, and then that doc was subjective? - Maybe, but there has to be room for subjectivity, right? My job isn't to be his advocate. - Got you. - You know. - But I don't know, because your journalist isn't a journalist job to be objective? - It's to be fair. It's to be fair. So, for example, if I do a documentary on the Boston Marathon bomber, I don't have to be, I can be fair until the story properly, but I don't have to pretend he's not, he's a good man. - That's not a monster. - Yeah, he's a good guy. - Speaking of not having to pretend people are not monsters, as soon as I get home, that whole hoagin' doc is gone, getting turned on, buddy. - For episodes, right on Netflix. I'm watching it. - I can't wait. - I'm watching it. Sorry. - I can't wait. - I'm watching every minute of it. - What else, what else, what else? I think for the most part, we are done. I wanted to highlight that Rod dig a tweet where she was wondering when somebody is gonna do the Clive Davis sex scandal doc. - That's a good picture, I think. - 'Cause it's a question that people have been asking for quite some time, but you're right. - You're right. - I've got a couple things on picture, that's one of them. - Yeah, I wanna talk about throwing something back in the ocean. I tried to get it out there. - Yeah, I saw it. - Early, do you want to early? - Yeah, you went to the ocean, way too early. - First 20 minutes. - Only 'cause it felt like you was, you blew your little too early. - It's fine, it's fine. - So the mutual say. - Yo. - Good call back, good call back. - That was a good call back. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - All right, man, good vibes, good vibes today. - Great show, man. - Would y'all go on this weekend? Anything, anything, anything? - Outside. - We party for him. - Party. - Hey, we party for the reign of the day. - We love it, we love it. - Happy birthday, we love you, we love you. - We love you, we love you. - I absolutely love the flyer that says, throwback, we're taking it back to 2016. - Fuck me up. - I was like, yo, I owed him, I, - Yeah, yeah, we owed him. - That's like, God, did that one's 10 years? - That could get back. - That's throwback now. - Yeah. - All the dudes are gonna be dressed exactly the same way. I still dress like it's 26th. - Yeah, I'm gonna say. - Yeah, other than that, I think I'm chilling, man. I ain't got too much going on. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, my app to hit that, uh, I'm in dollars, game dollars call. Said Isaiah Haran is in New York City Sunday night. I might have to make my way over there, man. - Oh, I know. - Other than that, man, y'all hold it down. Keep us in your bridge, Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a new farewell, Adios, Sarriba Dirti, Oster Levista, Arvoha, so long goodbye with simple head novel to face. Remember life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Hey, shout it out, Lloyd. ♪ Let's fight ♪ ♪ Girl, you're fighting a crazy machine ♪ ♪ Lastly, the baddies are insecure to stagnant ♪ ♪ Women want a trap, when the clothes Monday ♪ ♪ Women want you to teach them things ♪ ♪ Grab you a towel and all you might need it ♪ ♪ Body to use she, something I ever need ♪ - Loathing up, boys. ♪ It's a party ♪ - Hey. ♪ When you roll it out ♪ - Go next tonight, Nick, you lose tonight, you're done, buddy. Yeah, you lose tonight, you're done. Click, click, click, you lock out. - Word, I don't know. ♪ Oh, baby, I'm so inside ♪ - What are you doing? ♪ You know ♪ ♪ You know ♪ ♪ You know ♪ - All right, here's let's piece it up, yo. You can say ox tails. (laughing) - Shout out to my man. - Nah, for real. I shouldn't have screamed at you like that. That was wrong. You said my body. - Yo, bro, shut your ass up, bro. - Well, except when I want a body of me, Nick. I'm gonna knock him out when I'm telling you yo, it's coming, it's coming, man. (upbeat music) - Yo, hold it down, man. Stay safe this weekend. Be blessed this weekend. - What's going on? - Huh? - Yeah. - What's the rain all week enough? - Oh, is it? - Yeah, all week. - Yeah. - Thanks. (upbeat music) - Go see the Michael movie. - Go see that Michael movie, man. And if you blessed enough, bring some entertainment with you. - I'm gonna go see it tonight. - Who you going with? I was in the rock with the draft. - Yeah. - And who we the same time. - He was going like with your homies. - Yo. - Are you sorry, man? - Wait, Mark, you should have, you should have. - No, I actually was gonna see the movie with you. - I was gonna see what my wife is doing. - Well, pay for what you got. - I was gonna see what my wife too. - Let's go. - Did she know y'all going yet? - Yeah, she knows about that. - Okay, cool, cool. (upbeat music) (laughing) - You're gonna jump, you're gonna jump. - You're gonna jump, you're gonna jump. - I mean, too, I was like, "You're gonna be able to do what you're saying." - You're gonna jump out. - Say it. - Boy, I can shoot it. - Oh no, I pulled the drop. I pulled my boy. - JVP, I think you know better. - You know better. - You know better. - Oh, all right. - You know better. - You know better. - You know better. - You know better. - You know better. - You know that it's sex wise. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You know what you're sex wise. (laughing) - I know for that name. - JVP. JVP, where would you be without the JVP? (screaming) - I'm from the web in Niddeo. It's the network!

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast hosts engage in a humorous, non-serious discussion about social dynamics, particularly "running plays" to approach women in public settings.
  2. They debate techniques like the "bump and switch" and the "quiet, confident" persona, with one host critiquing the other's methods as transparent.
  3. A host recounts being caught by his girlfriend for leaving a flirtatious comment ("old school music is always a vibe") online, which she recognized as a pattern.
  4. The conversation shifts to personal accountability in relationships, with jokes about being "thirsty" and defending one's actions.
  5. The show includes banter about music, inside jokes, and lighthearted accusations of trying to "eat" (flirt) with others.

Summary:

This podcast transcription features a lively, informal conversation between two hosts and a guest, focused on entertainment rather than serious advice. The main discussion revolves around "running plays" – strategic approaches to talking to women in social settings like malls or restaurants. One host criticizes the other's tactics, such as the "bump and switch" or pretending to be shy and confident, arguing they are obvious or ineffective.

The conversation becomes personal when a host shares a story about his girlfriend catching him leave a seemingly innocent comment ("old school music is always a vibe") on social media, which she interpreted as a flirtatious move. This leads to a broader debate about being perceived as "thirsty" and how partners can quickly identify patterns of behavior. The hosts joke about defending themselves when accused, with one noting he becomes defensive and exaggerates his innocence.

The tone is playful and self-deprecating, with music interludes and references to New Jersey and New York City. The overall theme is humorous introspection about dating strategies, relationship dynamics, and the absurdity of trying to maintain a cool image when close friends or partners see through it. The podcast emphasizes it is for entertainment only and not to be taken seriously.

FAQs

The podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not serious or real. The hosts do not expose, reveal, or diet, and they advise against trying anything discussed.

It refers to a strategic approach to talking to a woman, especially in complicated situations like when she is with a man or in a public setting.

It is a tactic where someone bumps into a person and then switches to engage with them, used as a pickup method.

If you are with your girlfriend and encounter a fan of the show, do not approach him, as it may lead to unwanted attention or flirtation.

It is a flirtatious line used by one host, which his girlfriend called out as thirsty and obvious after he left it in a comment she saw.

He becomes defensive and turns it into a big issue, claiming his girlfriend doesn't know the extent of his interactions.

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