Cliffe & Stuart Knechtle Heated Debate vs Black Israelites

Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast with today's guest. We have a special episode, a Christmas special. It's going to be Cliff and Stuart Netschel versus three black Israelites. First, welcome Captain Baba Jamich and his friend, I don't know, Professor Slamgo along with Commander Burt. Why is the white man always in the way? That's disrespectful. That's a nice decoration. And for today's co-host, we have my manager, Vira Flooring. Just know that that white man, Santa Claus, has a lot more money than you. Okay, so first we will let Cliff and Stuart introduce themselves and then we will let Captain Tezazo Yak make his introduction along with his sidekick, Yup, You Right. So, if you guys want to introduce yourselves real quick. What do you want to know about us, Tom? Just, I guess, obviously, this is sort of a Christian versus Israelite episode. So, if you guys want to introduce yourselves in case anybody doesn't know you all, that one may be what you guys believe in. Okay. I am Cliff Koneckley and I'm a follower of Jesus Christ because of the historical evidence of the way Jesus lived. In other words, the way he treated people. Secondly, because of what he taught ethically. Right. Thirdly, because of the way he died. Fourthly, because of his resurrection from the dead. That's why I'm convinced that Jesus is reliable and it's wise to put your trust in him. We speak on college campuses across the country and do a lot of debating on this kind of stuff. A lot of politically incorrect debating like you. Yeah, yeah. So, I think we're on the same page. I don't know. I'll let them introduce for themselves. I think they probably have sort of a similar position on that. They just care to make it clear that Jesus is black. I don't know. Well, I don't think I agree with what he was saying. I first want to highlight I'm the most famous person on the platform. Thank you for bringing the black back. Keep that in there. I'm Captain Tazariaka of ISUPK. You want to introduce yourself? Hey, Shalom. What's going on? I'm Captain Tazariaka of ISUPK under Commanding General Yana. The Santa Kicker. He's the Santa Kicker. Official Santa Kicker. You guys just keep changing your names, huh? No, we don't change the names. That's the name. Right. That's the name. That's Commander Bert. What's the name, Commander Bert? Yup, you right. You right. Y'all might have recognized him from CB4. Yeah. And I'm black, y'all. And I'm bliggingly black. That's him. He's going to be great. So I guess, you know. He's on the right side. Yeah. I mean, he's an Israelite. So this is a little bit of a festive episode. This is the Christmas special. I guess for you guys, it's like Kwanzaa or something. If he's African, he's not an Israelite. Yeah, so I guess maybe you want to start with Christmas. Tell everybody. Because I don't know if they celebrate that. Christmas? Yeah, Kwanzaa. Nah, we don't celebrate Kwanzaa. Why we got to celebrate Kwanzaa? You know, because you guys are from Africa. Kwanzaa wasn't even started by an African. It was a black man in Chicago. That's the same thing. No, it's not. Africans and black people are not the same people. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Yup, you right. See that? Yup, you right. He chimed in. Listen, he felt that in his soul. Yeah, I guess so. He don't want to be African either. Neither do I. Yeah, so I guess I'll leave it to you guys now. About Christmas, I guess. Right. Thoughts on it. Thoughts on Christmas? Yes. Well, Jesus was not born on December 25th. That was a holiday that was celebrated in different cultures, and it was embraced by Christians. But the point of Christmas is that the supernatural God chose to become a human being, his name, Jesus, and he lived a sinless life. He taught amazing teachings. He died on a cross, and he rose from the dead. And we celebrate his birth. Can I ask a question? God became a human being. Yeah. You said the supreme God chose to be a man? Supernatural God chose to become a man. Yes, sir. So God died? God in human form as a man died on a cross. So God died. God in human form. God can die? God limited himself and became a human being, and as a human being, he died. It doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible. Oh, it says it all over the Bible. Where does it say he limited himself into a human being? Philospians chapter 2. Have this attitude in yourselves, which was also in Christ Jesus. Have this attitude in what? Who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God, a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself. So I'm the same as that then. Taking upon himself. No, you're not God, and I'm not God. No, no, think about what you said. It said, have this attitude in you. Now, I asked you to show me where God did that. Paul said for us to have the same attitude as Christ, who thought it not robbery to be equal with God. So I should think like that. You better learn to read in context, sir. You keep going through that passage, and it says he existed in the form of God and did not regard equality with God, a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking upon himself. the form of a bondservant. So if we can take that same mind state, then we can do the same thing. Yeah, but just because I think like Harvey Epstein or whatever the guy's name is, doesn't mean that I am Harvey Epstein. If you don't like Harvey Epstein, you'd be in jail too. No, but that doesn't mean I act like him. That doesn't mean I act like him. I can think like him, but there's a difference between being. It also certainly doesn't make me him. I don't become that person. Just like Trump, when they show the pictures with him with Epstein. I don't know what you're talking about. Point to them. It's 1-0 so far. I don't know what you're talking about, but you guys can continue. I just wanted to. Because I'm going to give points throughout this debate along with the other moderator. You messed up with that point. Because that verse, just the last point on it, that verse says, let this mind be in you. So when it says, not robbery, to be equal with God, that's the mind state we're supposed to have. We're supposed to follow that mindset, correct. That's right. But it's about Christ, who really was God, who humbled himself and became a human being. He's the eternal God. Does Christ have a God? No, he's the eternal God. In John 21-25, Christ said, I go to my Father, your Father, my God, and your God. Christ said he has a God out of his own mouth. So how can he be God if he got a God? Because he's God the Son, humbling himself, taking upon himself. You just said he don't have a God, though. Man, if you're asking questions, you don't listen to the answer. What's going on? I did listen to the answer. No, you didn't. You cut me off. So what's going on? So I'll do it again. Does Christ have. Then you'll listen, okay? I listened to. The first thing you said was Christ did not have a God. That's what you said. And then when I quoted the verse where he said he'd go to his Father and his God, then you said he's God the Son. I listened to you clearly. Good. Now let me say it again so you can hear it more clearly. Okay. Jesus is the eternal God, God the Son, who humbled himself as we looked at Philippians 2. I quoted it for you. So he humbled himself and became a human being. As a human being, he died. As a human being, he ascended back to his Father in Heaven. That's the mystery of the Incarnation. He humbled himself and became a human being. Yes, sir. So I heard everything that you said. Good. You said God the Son. Yes. Is God the Son a title in the Bible? Or is the Son of God the title in the Bible? That's used at times, yes. The only. I've never seen God the Son. I've only seen Son of God. So would you say that in Heaven right now is Jesus God in Heaven right now? Yes, sir. He sure is. What does Son of Man mean? You haven't even seen Son of God. What is Son of Man? Son of Man is. Daniel chapter 7. That's the prediction of the Son of Man coming. The Son of Man is worse because to be a Son of Man you have to be the Son of a Man. No, Son of Man can technically agree to cross civilization. You finished your point, but. Thank you. I don't know where you're going. Ezekiel is called Son of Man too, but before we get into the Son of Man argument, you said in Heaven. I'm a Son of Man. He never referred to himself as a Son of Man. You said in Heaven Jesus is God. Is it the Father sitting on the throne or Jesus sitting on the throne? Nobody's sitting on a throne. There's no throne. That's symbolic language. That's a lie. God is a spirit. That's a lie. He's a spirit. He's not sitting on a throne. That's a lie. No, it's not. It's the truth. In Daniel 7 and 9, it said the Ancient of Days had woolly hair and did sit. He sat on a throne. Yeah, that's symbolic language. And then the Son of Man was presented to him. But, I mean, take a look at his hat over there. God is spirit. He clearly doesn't understand symbolic language. That's why he dresses like that. But in Heaven, the Lamb presented before the man on the throne. Uh-huh. Well, where is Heaven? I'm asking you a question. I'm asking you one. Where is Heaven? Heaven is where the Lord resides. Where is that? In Heaven. I just answered the question. No, where is Heaven was my question. It's a dimension. A dimension, okay. There we go. So God is spirit. He's not a physical being. He's not a spirit. He's a spirit. We're all spirits, but we also have flesh. So if it says he sat on a throne, he has to have a physical entity to sit on a throne. No, he doesn't have to. But don't run from the question. I'm not running. In Revelations, the fourth and fifth chapter, it describes the throne that the Ancient of Days is sitting on. It describes the holies. It describes the beasts that scream his name. Holy, holy, holy. They're screaming that to the man sitting on the throne. That is not Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Lamb that opens the seal of the book. That's Jesus Christ. So the man sitting on the throne is God, is the Almighty. The one being presented before the throne is the Lamb. Body bag. God is spirit. God is spirit. Jesus says very clearly in the Bible. So this whole idea that he's sitting on a throne is a symbolic picture. It's a symbolic picture. It's all apocalyptic literature. You're literally taking apocalyptic literature and trying to make a point. So you're saying in heaven. And it's so silly. I've never heard that from any commentator ever. So there's no voices screaming holy, holy, holy. You're saying that's a lie. No, I'm saying it's symbolic. Symbolic, right. So there's no voice singing that. Isaiah had a vision of God and that vision was symbolic. I didn't mention Isaiah. I really don't care. But the Bible talks because the Bible talks about it. You shouldn't say that God be true and every man a liar. You lying so far. I'm telling the truth. No, sir. We disagree strongly. You can disagree. Don't mean it's true what you're disagreeing about. You got to actually. to call me a liar and i don't have to call you a liar we can be respectful okay take the liar part away that's fine why don't you take it away because you're the one who used it i just said i'll take it away good but all you're doing is debating from authority all you're doing is debating from the bible i want to hear what you have to say about what is son of man contextually who was jesus christ outside of the bible and what are the claims he made and what was heaven i don't think you know an answer to any of these outside of the bible i think you just like to quote from authority inside the bible and i don't know anybody who debates that way not a single person have we met who debates the people who debate that way or people who actually believe in what the bible says you know i'm saying like it's the bible is the ultimate okay so when jesus i don't i don't know what i'm saying he's the door what i'm saying is that a couple i don't need anything extra is that a couple pieces of i believe that that bible is the word of god when he says he is the door saying what does that mean here's what you're saying we take the bible as authority you're saying it's not good enough what i'm saying from the bible yeah but you made a good point about the door i thought that was pretty good you didn't say i made that point not him no no i'm saying no yeah yeah i want to answer he just started talking about some white man and stuff and got off can we get back to that door part what say again what you said about the door i said when jesus says i am the door that's right does that mean a couple pieces of plywood slapped together no why not it's not why not take it literal like revelation take it literally who's taking it literal i didn't need a lexicon to know it wasn't literal why because why because it's called you just interpret any old way you want then no you interpret it the way god gives you the interpretation christ is also the lamb i don't think he's a lamb laying on here good good it's called common sense but in the book of revelations when he's having the visions there's some things that are metaphor there's some things that are not good so when it describes what you're seeing in that crystal when it describes the lord's throne when it describes them screaming his name the holy of holies and the elders and them weeping because nobody can open the book and then the lamb which is christ comes before it the point is the one that's on the throne even if you've made it symbolic there's still symbolically a power on the throne and symbolically a man coming before the power of the throne to open up to the one on the throne is not the one excuse me the one in the lamb is not the one on the throne the one on the throne is the ultimate power correct sal what do you think right yeah answer the one on the throne symbolically is the ultimate power stuck body bag say it you're stuck say it you're stuck the one on the throne you're the power look they won't say it because you're stuck come on you're the one okay is the one on the throne the power yes or no how do you determine what's metaphor and what's literal i'm just asking yeah yeah well you started earlier you're saying common sense you're commenting for everybody we talked about why you can't answer the question black white white you can't answer it doesn't matter what they are they say nothing is just common sense in the bible good job come on come on you're just debating authority that's all you're doing good job setting it up that's what i'm talking about okay all right yeah that's what i'm saying all right now why are all people equally valuable all people are not equal oh he doesn't he's about i don't care there's no such thing as equality on the face of the earth superior israelites are superior israel we are superior it's not even a reason i'm gonna tell you why do you believe that because the bible says it it's not because we're great in number it never says the israelites are superior the israelites are the number one thing says i tried to be above all nations on the face of the planet and i did not choose you because you were the greatest i chose you because you are the least and that is so the only reason anything about ethnic superiority wait wait wait wait when you say that's not about god reveals himself through them before you go god created a man in his own image in the image of god he created them male and female he created them why don't you listen sir as well as speak i am listening to you i'm asking you to me i'm asking you 27 and 28 we're creating the image of god right all of us right which means all human beings have equal value and dignity right because we're all created in the image of god that's why white is not superior to black black is not superior to black white he said that he's the least so what he's saying are you saying you're the least intelligent at the table no because that's something that i think we could all get your intelligence at this table you're physically superior but i would say you're physically superior but now i want to get back to that when you said he's you're saying he looks like was israel ethnic at that point he's saying you look like lebron james he's just saying that because all black people and it's crazy i'm light lebron is dark i was going to ask you that's the typical profile lebron is like his complexion but you don't even know you don't even know about lebron right now let me ask you a question your friend here he's a little bit of a lighter color does that mean he's less worthy than you no he's right why are you thinking here that's basically a white guy that's a white body bag yeah body bag that's a white man are you like an albino you're no but you know what i'm going to tell you something i think that there's nobody on the planet who wants to be have you guys ever seen like more than jewish people completely right and that's why that's why if we go to eastern parkway y'all have a whole village where y'all dress like run dmc run dmc you know what i'm saying like and that's i don't even know what you're talking about you haven't noticed jewish people wear black head to toe right because the jews are black onto the ground y'all y'all my adidas you know let me say this this doesn't get there this is my adidas is crazy my adidas that's how you walk through brooklyn i've never seen black jewish people act this way this is the first time to this way but it's very interesting right now they're trying to count the coins but this is a very different demographic why would you need one in ancient palestine yeah why would you need that i think you might need one of those in russia and i want to highlight something you're saying jewish people are not white yeah even though you're trying to say that's him that is a compliment to jewish people i'm saying it almost is a derogatory but you made a difference in ethnicity no i'm saying that he's not jewish and he's also not not jewish here's the thing he's a he's also not white he's like he's at a whole different level this is a black black you know black but like this is like just a this is a low level it's like he got unlucky you know i it sounds offensive to say but it's like he wants to be we don't get offended i got one more thing okay well hold on i was going to say he wants to be jewish but he's not he wants to be jewish though hey you need to be quiet at some point he wants to be jewish but he's not he wants to be black but he doesn't look like it he wants to be white but he clearly doesn't have the intelligence so like what are you some some sort of horse talk in your real voice this is my real voice maybe no great character no he's good maybe this is like maybe he is like from the bible but not as a prophet like when they're talking about like lambs and stuff is he like a lamb from the bible he's definitely a prophet hey you want to know how good of a prophet is he knew he was going to bring up the white angle wow that's a prophet right there you prophesied that jesus is called shepherd and so he's a dog it's a metaphor of jesus he's not a little sheep going around and he's not a shepherd all right so you've got to be able to interpret fairly now how do you interpret you interpret by respecting literary style and by reading in context which and when you respect literary style and read in context you'll come up with an accurate interpretation if you don't do so you come off as really ignorant can i have one more level of that oh he has another level here hold on christ said i'm glad that he kept this from the wise and prudent and gave it to babes so would you also add that the lord has to give you understanding as well of course the lord has to give you understanding would you say that that means through humility would you admit that that outweighs whatever smartness anybody can have on on a flat level if the lord gives the lord can give anybody understanding we would agree right that's correct and the reason why he made that statement about giving it to keep keeping it from the world who did you agree with there because he said you right after christ's time the ones that were considered wise thought they knew the bible thought they knew the word of god but they didn't the pharisees the disciples were called what were the disciples were the disciples scholars no they called the disciples unlearned men because they were fishermen they were men that fished you fished they were not that what he said read books so when you try to make this scholastic argument it falls he's saying that he knows how to wait god really luke wrote the biography of paul no matter how smart was luke a doctor with no matter how smart was luke a doctor no matter how they weren't all fishermen bro no they wasn't but no matter how smart or dumb you can that that's the lebron efficient if the lord does not give them the understanding it won't matter matthew mark luke and john are beautifully written no they're not intellectuals but they're very clear communicators of truth they don't go blah blah blah blah blah they don't go la la la la i've been clear they use human language to communicate ideas this is not god i've been clear the bible is clear that jesus is not god john 8 58 jesus says before abraham was born i am yeah and the jewish people picked up stones to stone him divine coming is what he's talking about what do you mean divine coming because in the very next chapter that blind man that he healed said i am ego and my as well that greek term ego and mine say i'm smart too that greek word ego and my in the very next chapter john 9 and 1 when christ healed that blind man he makes the same statement so you can't make it no he does not you cannot there is nobody that jesus healed who claimed to be the great i am who i am no way that is so dishonest that's the standard because is what you scholars like to use to say i'm not a scholar you're the one who said you're the scholar here okay i'm not a chosen we're not the chosen you're the chosen you said who's what you're the one who claimed to be a scholar i'm not a scholar okay listen you're the chosen scholar so you're the intelligent you said you're the intelligent one i'm not i'm not claiming to be intelligent or a scholar i'm not but i am claiming that i can read a text honestly and when you read the text honestly that's right the new testament claims jesus is god revealing himself as human form what verse says it john 8 58 john 10 30 chapter 2 i've already given you a bunch as a matter of fact when peter when christ asked peter who am i what did peter say crickets what did peter say because you're ripping stuff out of context i'm just asking the question where it is what passage are you talking about he said a lot yeah i'm trying to figure out what he said i was specific crickets for a reason man christ asked so i'll say the whole thing then christ asked peter who do you say i am yes and peter said you are the son of god and christ said flesh and blood did not reveal it to you but my father in heaven good so can you show me a verse where jesus said i am god hey guys sorry for the interruption i have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by factor it's the holiday season right now everybody's busy with something going on and something else going on and something else going on but factor makes it real easy and a great thing about factor compared to other meal kits is that those people want you to cook and prepare food but factor can have it ready in just two minutes factor is now offering a wider variety of weekly selection options including seafood options like salmon and shrimp at no extra cost no extra cost i get a 97 percent of customers have said that factor has helped them live a healthier life these are real people who get to stay on track with their diet because factor makes it easy start eating something that's healthy and healthy you can get 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example jesus always accepted worship no he did not wait i'm sorry not to worship not the worship part in matthews 4 christ said the father is the only one that you shall worship but on the subject of worship you're right a man can receive worship did solomon receive worship no no well let's let that respond now wait wait the bible says they worship god and the king they worship god and solomon accept worship did he say i am god they had to accept worship yeah so this is first chronicles 29 and 20. on the son of man being called the son of man as a punishment i'm gonna cut off your point and we're gonna move to the next topic no no you can't because you're trying to cheat over here with your guy it's reading a bible verse you have a white man cheating on you he's not white though that's no that's if he's white then the jewish man is white when i said okay yeah yeah uh-huh i'm not i said the jewish man wasn't white i wasn't saying it as a good thing it was derogatory no matter how you say it you only basing it off of appearance okay stop interrupting all the time every time somebody talks when i was saying that he wasn't white i was also saying it as a derogatory thing just to be clear it was all derogatory a jews and that the white man doesn't matter if it's derogatory or not you're basing it off of skin color skin tone you see how we say we're not african well africans have black skin like black people have black skin i already completely agreed with the idea that he has no behavior of a white man it's like he's superior to a white man in in the world of of clowns and cuckoos thank you all the israelites are he's an israelite yep you're right i mean if that makes you feel better to say that it actually does yeah i think most people think that he's like puerto rican that's not bad that's good okay that's good most people would probably think that you're homeless i'm not though i'm not i'm just saying because of you you're looking stuff i mean that hat looks like something a homeless person would find and start telling people he found the treasure i think that if the jews are really black then i think that makes jewish people wicked okay yeah that's the next topic hold on i was gonna ask i don't even know what he said but it's a question for you guys and then they can move into it do you believe africans are the real jews no okay we don't either yeah oh but you you see how he's answering deceptively like what he's doing he's pretending not to be african so i'm not pretending come on just answer the question to be a jew because africans come from ham israelites come from shem why is he talking about food what is he even talking about okay we'll move on again to the next topic i don't even know what he's saying right here that's poor that's all my bad bird fix that please yeah he was meant to be knocked down a white man coming into a black man's house is diabolical on christmas uh considering that you got to tell little white kids he's coming into your house to give you gifts bert or santa claus santa claus what's wrong with that yeah it's like a little happy story for you celebrate christmas i don't celebrate santa claus i celebrate jesus christ becoming a human being and he was born that's what we celebrated he just said he didn't celebrate santa claus christ wasn't born on december 25th that's right he wasn't born on december 20th so that's idol worship that's breaking the first commandment didn't christ warn against the traditions of men yeah warn against the mark the seventh chapter the traditions of men you accept christ didn't accept the traditions of men how do we accept the traditions of men you celebrate christmas it doesn't matter if it's the 25th or not if that's one out of 365 chances that it was on the 25th but why there's no record that there's no bible to say the problem is that somehow we we worship that is that you definitely do that christmas on the 25th right there that's in jeremiah the 10th chapter that's an idol do we worship it it's an idol yes we don't worship we don't worship we don't get into his house by himself do you put the gifts under the tree we get gifts oh he breaks it he's a criminal leading up to the 25th we think that he's wearing is more an idol than any type of christmas tree in the bible that's not in the bible listen that's something that's an idol maybe you want to worship that's something by the 10th chapter you take that tree it tells you the workman cuts down the tree and deck it with gold and it's not but that's not real gold and you know y'all celebrating christmas so what are you doing that's not real gold i don't worship you said you're supposed to wear a headpiece and it's not real gold remember me by the firm but that's not that's that's all fake up there why do you wear that let me ask you it ezekiel i think it's ezekiel 25 it's like a mitrio headpiece uh you can go first magabees when they wore warlike apparel so we wear a headpiece to scarves when we go out and teach like he has the head idols were primarily gold exactly like that right this is that looks like an idol show me show me biblically it's so frequently everything is either way have you ever seen the way aaron and them that is more than them than that is right here we can read jeremiah chapter have you ever read jeremiah chapter yeah sure have does it describe that tree i can promise you that it doesn't mean anything wait so he said i'm right it does describe the tree you think yet y'all still put the tree in your house is no longer discounted in the old testament into the new nothing exactly it's not prescriptive whatsoever there's descriptiveness i'm saying it right now no you're not gonna let me say it no no i'll get there i'll get there yeah geez man it's hard speaking to an idol right now being rude to interrupt yeah yeah we've been all been how about that don't be emotional well he doesn't great that'd be a great thing to learn don't be a girl don't be a girl don't you be a girl let's all let's all talk as men i said we'll be offended bro i'm not offended yeah you are i said we're all interrupted just don't our girls inferior you made it sound like girls are inferior right now girls complain about being interrupted i said we're all interrupted just don't be a girl you made it sound like girls are something when we all girls are inferior right girls are inferior i just want y'all to finish sure you don't want us to finish you want to interrupt that's what you want to do let's be honest girls white people like a bimbo kids y'all don't love white everybody else what the hell look at the white women y'all put in the power look at donald trump's wife who loves that white what is he the bimbo donald trump does not love his wife y'all don't love your wives that's why you sleep with men you know what it's like it's like when chad gbt makes an error giving a bunch of stuff - You love your women. - I'm not even following this point. - But Finn is breaking it down. - I don't even know what you're talking about. - Finn is breaking it down. - Wait, break down that for us. No, no, he doesn't break down anything. I know, I'm so confused. He knows how to do break dancing. He's so smart, he's talking, yeah. Do you want to show your break dancing skills? I know that's something you guys know how to do. I don't break dance. Do you know how to break dance? I'm breaking dance now, dancing on y'all. Exactly. Hold on to dancing and not getting into real issues. There we go, there we go. You can't show it, bro. I said it. It's on fire. I do got to dance for you. Not now, but I'll do it at some point. I don't dance on people. I respect people, all right? That tree. I would encourage you not to dance on people. Hey! Hey! Ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba! It's like Dumb and Dumber right now. There we go, Dumb and Dumber. It's yelling right in the beginning. That's so good. You don't break character either. I like your dedication. He's great, man. But that tree in there is an idol, and you're putting an idol in your house. So is mixed fabrics. Why are you wearing mixed fabrics, bro? It's so disrespectful. Mixed fabrics. Be consistent. The Old Testament says mixed fabrics. I'm not wearing anything mixed. Oh, you're not wearing any mixed fabrics. And your bro over there. And this is all one material. How about your bro over there? It's all one material, and that's all one material. So you have never worn mixed fabrics in your life. No, uh-uh. But that's an idol right there. You're right. You never wash your clothes in it. People can turn that into an idol. People can turn your car into an idol. It already is an idol. No, it's not already an idol. Yes, it is. No, it's not. It's a tree. You just admitted that that tree is in Jeremiah 10, and God was against it. No, I didn't say that. I said I read Jeremiah 10, and decided to put it in your house. That's for sure. No, we don't worship a tree. It's a tree. It's a tree. I think he's just jealous because he doesn't have a house. Right? I do have a house. No, you don't. I'm glad you do have a house. So I've seen some black Hebrew Israelites who have tattoos. What's going on there? So now, I have a tattoo. Exactly. Right. But I was not an Israelite when I got the tattoo. So take it off. So just like when Paul was unaliving Christians, or excuse me, unaliving Israelites, and then he repented, that wasn't counted against him. It's what he did forward. So whatever a man does before he's born again, that's what John the third chapter said. So when a woman was caught in adultery, did she die? No, she was given a second chance. So brothers that have tattoos, or any other form of life, when they turn their life to Christ, they have a second chance. Good. Only a hypocrite would try to victimize them for it. Good. So you're not called to grace, man. We're born again. I like that. That's what Christ calls us to be, to be born again. Under grace means you can't go and get more tattoos. You got to get born again, Jesus said to John, Nicodemus and John. Now that y'all know y'all can't celebrate Christmas, you're going to take that tree out of your house? No, absolutely not. See the difference? The Israelites would take the tree out. Well, good for you. That's fine to take the tree out of your house. You don't have to have a tree. Not my Jesus. You don't have to. But that's great that you want to be born again. Have you been born again? If they put the gifts under the tree. Have you put your face in Christ? If you put the gifts under the tree, you know you're paying tribute. Do you put gifts under the tree? No, no, no. We're not paying tribute to a tree. We're giving gifts to other human beings. Wait, wait. Can you explain that? He's mad because nobody ever brought him a gift. You don't want an answer. You've shown that very clearly. Pretend to want an answer. You just want to interrupt. That's all you want to do. You should let your son do the talking. He can talk all he wants. I'm submitting. And why don't your buddy can talk all he wants? Daddy get mad too easily. Daddy get mad. But do y'all present the gifts to the tree? No, we don't present the gifts to the tree. Do y'all put gifts under the tree? Let me answer you for crying out loud. You didn't answer. Come on. No. We give our gifts to people, not to trees. But before the 25th, are they sitting, are they sitting under the tree? As a matter of fact, it's not. It's actually the morning of the 25th. It's the morning of the 25th. That laugh gave it away. No, no, no. We're too lazy, man. We're too late to put it out any time before. Any time before. You right. Mixed fabrics, man. Mixed fabrics. Can I say something? I just think you're a liar when it comes to those issues. Can I say something real quick? Never touch a pigskin. I think that he's just a little bit upset because when Christmas time was coming around when he was a kid, his dad wasn't around, so he wasn't able to give gifts. Did you get any gifts? Can you talk a little bit about that? You're talking to me? Yeah. To me? I'm actually not upset at all. Did you get any gifts from. I'm trying to answer you. No. Okay, sorry about that. I actually think the most high that I found out that was an idol. So I'm relieved. Now, I was asking if you got any gifts from your father during Christmas time. I got gifts from my father, my mother, my grandmother, grandfather, I don't think that's the truth. I don't think so. Yeah, I got gifts. My father. I see the stats on it. This is how I found out Santa Claus wasn't real. As I wanted a bike for Christmas, my dad said, you're going to get it. Santa Claus is going to get it. And so as they put in the bike together, I wake up in the middle of the night and I go see my parents putting the bikes together. I said, damn, I thought it was a Santa Claus. And it wasn't. So my dad built my bike. Right. So you realize because obviously Santa Claus is white. I realized the white man was the devil by convincing us that this guy could ever come into a black person's house. How are we doing that? Bert, pick it up. Bert, pick it up. No, don't do that, Bert. Don't do that. Bert, pick it up. Bert, don't drive it. The slave master would not be your master today. I am the slave master. Get somebody else to do it. I'm not letting him get up. And if it's ever legal again, I'm not letting him get up. I will be the master of slaves. That's why we're going to put y'all in chains. But you wouldn't be a good worker. But you're not going to let him get up. You would be a bad worker, that's for sure, because you're loud and disruptive. You would need somebody bigger than you to enslave me. No, I agree. Because I would have you whopped all over here somewhere. Hey. You would never enslave me. Yo, yo, okay. But you raised. But he ain't picking that up, though. He's not getting it. I'm going to hold him. I'll hold him. You're holding him down. It's not fair. No, I'm holding him up. Okay, let him go and see if he picks it up. Pick it up, Bert. Bert, pick it up. I'm the best. Do the yuck there. Now, this is the dance. This is when I do the dance. This is the dance. Make sure you keep that in mind. That's the point deducted for him. Yes. For me? From you. I'm the moderator. I don't have a point. No, no, no, no. That's the point. That's the point deducted. You're the best, man. You're the best. So did you call us the white devil? I said that's why the white man is the devil. Get you raised. So I'm a white man, and I have the devil. Yes. Get you raised. And what does that mean? The word devil means deceiver. How you try to deceive us with Jesus as God, deceiving us with Christmas, all of that y'all created and gave that to us. All right. Y'all gave black people y'all form of Christianity through bloodshed and murder and slavery, took away, gave us a slave Bible and then when we got the Bible it taught us the revolutionary believing in the most how the right way. We had to learn that on our own. When a black man has to walk into an environment and the first thing he has to establish is that he's a man is because of what y'all created. So yes, you are the devil. I did not create Jesus. Jesus was an historical person who lived 2,000 years ago. And he did not look like y'all. And I did not create Jesus. Secondly, you need to read Howard Thurman who gave a great talk at Harvard in 1947 about the power of the Negro African spirituals. Those slaves understood that there was coming a day of judgment when God would judge evil and when justice would win. You're not doing it. You got to read those spirituals because they are in touch with reality. The only reason y'all got those spirituals is because y'all enslaved a bunch of people against their will. I didn't enslave anybody. I'm embarrassed by the way white folks enslaved people in the United States. I'm embarrassed by that and I stand against that and I stand for the value and dignity of all human beings created in the image of God. That's good. So when we say the white man is the devil, it's not every. Right now, pick it up. It's not every. Pick it up, Bert. No, no, don't touch it. Bert, pick it up. Bert, I'll give you $1,000. Don't you. $1,000 to pick it up. Do not sell your soul for money. $1,000. Don't sell your soul to the black devil. Pick it up. Bert, that's the black devil. You're going to learn today. Bert. You're not picking it up. Bert, pick up the Santa Claus. You're not picking. If I have to get up and make sure he don't pick it up. Oh, so you're going to physically. That's right. That's all these people know. That's all they know That's what we have to know. I'm not going to hurt him. That's all they know. I'm just going to. Christ said. No, no, no, no. You're going to physically stop him. That's right. You're going to subdue him by choking him out and stomping on his head. What I wanted to say to you, though, when we say the white man and the devil, it's a general statement. It doesn't mean every individual. See how you said that. Oh, so you mean it metaphorically. No, not metaphorically. Meaning majority. Like 95% of y'all are the devil. Oh, 95% of whites are the devil. And so what I mean, I'm saying that to say. How do you know it's 95%? Yeah, where'd you get that stat from? Because I have never met a good white man that did not have an agenda with his niceness towards my people. So then wouldn't it be 100%? Well, that's sad. Just in case you're wondering, there are a lot of white northerners who got killed in the Civil War to free the black slave. Abraham Lincoln was opposed to slavery. And there are a lot of white northerners who gave their lives to bring slavery to an end. They hated it so desperately. They didn't do enough, though. Well, they gave their life. What more do you want a guy to do than give his life for you? Pass it down generationally the way y'all pass down slavery generationally. They should have had their kids fight for black people. Well, I can promise you there are a lot of folks who have stood against slavery. No problem. But this is what's extremely interesting to me. Like, you guys love, you know, extra biblical historical facts. Abraham Lincoln, out of his own mouth, said that he didn't fight the war to free the slaves. He did it for economic purposes. So for you to act like, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey, we gave you this beating, but we're going to stop beating you, so now kiss our ass for it. Like, you out your mind. What? Every single great abolitionist movement was done by Christians. And I hate to say it, 95% of those were white because they cared about the blacks and they wanted great change for the blacks because they loved him with no incentive to make money. And that's why Frederick Douglass was black, by the way. That's why he teamed up with the whites. With Abe Lincoln and said, no, we're not going after it because of financial means. We're going after it because of Galatians 3.28, which says, neither slave nor free, neither male nor female, neither Jew nor Gentile, all are created in God's image. That's why we are going to set the black slaves free. So what image? was burned in the lawns of black people by the KKK. The KKK are hypocrites who violate what Christ taught. There are many hypocritical Christians, that's for sure. There absolutely are. From the Catholic Church all the way to the Southern Baptists who are riding around in clothes. You don't have to be very smart to see that. There are a lot of Christian hypocrites. Here's the thing, though. On these slave plantations, was there or was there not churches? Tragically, there were. Tragically, the white Christians were racist too frequently, and that's sad. It's evil, and they will be judged for that by God. The abolitionists and people that y'all say fought for black people to get free, what did they give black people? They were dead. They died fighting and giving in the Civil War. What did Abraham Lincoln free the slaves from God? He wasn't killed? Wait. He was killed. He was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth. He said reparations? Absolutely. The FDA is fighting for reparations right now because black people have never received anything in regards to reparations. Some became sharecroppers where they had to work the same land that they was enslaved on, but black people were never given anything. And then, when black people built their cities, who burned them shits down? Yeah, Nat Turner. Absolutely, that's historic. Ain't nobody talking about Nat Turner. Black Wall Street, Rosewood, Paradise, Chocolate City. You know there's never been. I've never heard of Black Wall Street. You know there's never been an aerial attack on America. He's making up terms. Hey, hey, hey, $20 for crack. $22 for crack. You know there's never been an American term. Hey, hey, hey, $30 for crack. What is going on in Black Wall Street? They didn't have crack back then. They didn't have crack until y'all. $20 for meth. $21 for meth. But there's never been an aerial attack in America until y'all flew planes over Black Wall Street and bombed it because of your jealousy. They bombed Black Wall Street because they were jealous? Because 30 years of us being free from slavery, we built our own city, our own hospital, those airstrips and banks, and your jealousy burned it to the ground. Well, jealousy's a sin. So you can tell me about. Jealousy's evil. And I bet they were Christian. Jealousy's evil. Yeah, were they Christian? Yes. I don't know the faintest idea whether they were hypocrites or not. Thomas Jefferson was Christian? No, he was not. Yes, he was. They all were Christians. Thomas Jefferson took a knife and cut out all references to the cross of Christ out of the New Testament. Don't call him a Christian. All of them Christians. He was a deist. No, Thomas Jefferson was not a Christian. He was a deist. All of them good Christians and burned those cities. Study Jefferson. He did not follow Christ. And then gave us White Jesus. You mentioned some other things besides Black Wall Street. What were the other ones? Rosewood. White Jesus is false. Seneca Village. Paradise City in Detroit. Paradise City. There's no way there were black people in Paradise City. I mean, that's the antithesis of Paradise City. That's why they called it Paradise. The reason why they called Tulsa, Oklahoma, they call it Black Wall Street because it was nothing more richer than that city at that time. Isn't Oklahoma like one of the lowest economic states in the world? Oh, I can't say y'all because you're Jewish. I'm not Jewish. I'm not Jewish. I'm not Jewish. Oh, oh, oh. He slipped up. I'm Jewish now? You're Jewish. That rejects your Jewishness. Oh, see, he slipped up now. I ain't mad at you. He has to clarify. No, I think you reject your Jewishness. This guy's a fool as well. Because like I said earlier, Jewish people want to be black which makes them white. So you don't want to be a wicker either. So you figure I'm going to just be white. Well, I'm not going to say my variation of that term for you because it's like a brawl he's going to break out. But let me say something. I'm going to make you an offer. I don't think he would win. There you go. Again, he's like LeBron. He's the LeBron of fishing. If I get a hold of Mr. Like Mike, LeBron, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson, all of them. Anyways. Communists. Jamin. Anyways, if I get a hold of Mr. Beast. Who the fuck is that? Is that breaking character? No, he's always doing that. Beast and he's willing to do a social experiment where we take a bunch of black people and tell them they're on Wall Street. He's a big, uh, uh, he runs. Can we do that? Would you be willing to be like a leader there? Say that again, what you want to do? I want to get a hold of somebody who can do, like, take a hold of this financially and I want to see how black Wall Street works out. So what are you going to do? It's going to be like Skid Row after three days. No, no. What is the setup? That's black Wall Street in the real world. It's called Skid Row. What is the setup? What's the setup? Yeah, what's the setup? Yeah, we'll get a bunch of African-American. This sounds racist from me. I'm not being racist. I'm just being a little. Man, just be racist. We know who you are. I am. Okay, fine. Fine, you got it. Get into it, man. Okay, we'll get a bunch of African-Americans or Africans, whatever, and we'll give them their own little town and we'll give them a bunch of. And y'all going to leave us alone? Listen, listen. We'll give them a bunch of financial information and it's like, what do you think is going to. But we also have to make it fair. We have to give at least two of them crack and we have to teach at least another two how to make it. How many men? How many men and women? How many people? 100 men, 100 women. 200 people. 200 people. And only two have crack. Two have crack. Two can make it. So let them all be. And the other one. Let them all be from my school. Except the two on crack. Like the school you went to or the school. No, no. The school I'm in right now. ISUBK. You give 200 people ISUBK. Yeah, you know what? Perfect deal. You won't do it. No, no. I will. If I can get somebody to fund this. Yeah, you do it. You get them to fund it. I mean, do it. I guarantee you. But y'all got to leave us alone. Y'all going to be jealous in two years. You'll be jealous now. Dude, in three days it's going to explode. Let's find out. There's going to be like a crack explosion. Let's find out. We have to build a dome around. Listen, get. Everybody's going to get infected. They can't just be two crackheads. You got to have a drug dealer too. You know what it's going to be? It's going to be. I guarantee you bring them two crackheads and a drug dealer. I guarantee you that if we do this. We're going to turn that crackhead and right the drug dealer right. We're going to fix it and y'all going to find a reason to shut this shit down. If you take a cracked out person and you put them in your hands they're going to end up going to sleep for a long time. They won't be high though. They won't be high. They won't be high. They'll be high up. No, they won't. They'll be really low. They could be asleep. They won't be high. How about this? Yeah, listen. I'm just as swift as you. I'm just as fast as you. I would bet. Fuck you. Who is this guy? Commander Bird. What is this bullshit? Now I lost my train of thought. We'll move on. I'm the best. The black is the best. He made me lose my train of thought. I mean, he's black too, but whatever. That's right. He did a good job. Okay, we'll move on. You got to get trained. I could train you too. I don't want to lose all of my brain. Anyways. Yeah. Hey guys, sorry for the interruption. I have to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Rougette. Instead of being insecure in the bedroom and always feeling sorry and embarrassed of yourself, that's where Rougette's Go Long comes in. It's not just another ED pill. It's a confidence game changer that will change your confidence. Rougette's Go Long combines two doctor-trusted formulas into one dual-action medication. Plus, effects last for up to 36 hours. Meaning that day, that night, and some of the next day as well. 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I wasn't even paying attention the first time. But I didn't want him to keep saying that shit. No, yeah, you were. Don't try to make it even cooler. I wasn't, yeah. You got the point. Now move on. Have some self. Be humble. Okay. I guess, again, we'll start with you guys and then we'll move on to those people. Do you think black and white people should be allowed to live in the same community? Well, it's all based on we're all created in the image of God. Right. We all have equal value. So, of course, we live in the same community. Racism is evil. It's sinful. It'll be judged by God. And it's real clear that Jesus in his first sermon in Luke 4 took a frontal attack on racism and almost got killed for it because he told a synagogue packed full of Jews God loves Gentiles just as much as he loves Jews. And the people were irate. They stood up and they took Jesus to a cliff to throw him to his death and he walked right through them. Right. So, obviously, racism is wrong. And so, obviously, a follow-up crisis says of course people of different ethnic heritages can live in the same community. Kat's setting up a whole paradigm down there. where everything is based off of moral superiority. So, everything that the white man has done in the past that's quote-unquote evil, that's why they should submit to the great black man who's done everything that is righteous. Now, if you're going to go by that paradigm, you're going to separate and you're going to bring about a lot of violence and hatred. Secondly, if you're going to go by that paradigm, you're going to wipe away the entire central message that, oddly enough, he brought up earlier, which is grace. Jesus Christ went to the cross to die for us because he forgave us of our sins. So, nothing is done out of moral superiority. Everyone is bankrupt at the foot of the cross because of what Jesus did. But couldn't you say that that wouldn't really matter to him because at the end of the day he just wants to feel superior to people? Who does? This guy over here. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter. I'm saying nothing matters. to him isn't that true right birth i was talking to bird by the way see that's right what's going on here it's mute i'm gonna talk for a bird no you're not everything i'm gonna say you're always interrupting yourself how about you be quiet say bird's gonna say right bird see that's right see thank you so now what i first want to say is what he said about jesus christ is false christ said i am not sent but into the lost sheep of the house of israel that's what he said when it said when john 3 16 for god so loved the world the world does not talk about everybody because christ also what's the good samaritan i didn't interrupt this time just think about that though no i got you because the same man that said god so loved the world also said i pray for them i pray not for the world so the world has to have a context in isaiah 45 and 17 it says israel is the uh will be saved in the lord with an everlasting salvation you shall not be ashamed no confounded world that's who christ was talking about when it comes to can we live among white people it's very hard to ask a black person to live amongst white people with the history of us living amongst white people the history of us the whole reason why i bring up black wall street and rosewood those were black cities that tried their best to get along with white people and through envy they burned the cities down they create redlining they created so many obstacles to get in the way of black people from achieving that the only way we should at least see if it's better is if we had our own city we should at least look at that as an opportunity when we talk about the drug epidemic with the cia flooding us with drugs and abortions as the moderator i'm gonna have to get involved you want your own city we should at least see it i mean we've seen it i mean take a look at like ghana you want to live in ghana ghana is not a black city that's you mean you mean like an israelite city yeah and the whole superiority the bible says but you know the issue is with that what is that the culture today you know people because of what happened in the past feel bad and give some credit to black people and they don't want to live in ghana they don't want to live in ghana they don't that doesn't i have not seen hold on a minute well you interrupted me well yeah i did but i'm the moderate sir it's my rules my way i'm the boss here as long as i get to finish well what i'm saying is that the difference is with israelites you're saying we have an experience that in ghana the same will never apply to israelites because nobody takes them seriously you know what i mean well you take me seriously everybody if you ask a guy you say do you know an israelite they say no or they're like oh is that the crazy people on the side of the street that's you're yelling right i would expect that from your world in my world when you ask my people yeah but this is like 99.9 percent of right and we want to be the percent away from you that's the point so and why and why is that and why is that to separate us yeah oh yeah that's that's yeah fantastic because again the bible here's what the bible says the bible says when the wicked on authority the people mourn when the righteous are in authority the people rejoice you guys but you guys never quote such a silly argument never quote we agree with you but you never want physical boundaries just like an espousal abusal relationship and that's exactly what black and hispanics some space bro for some physical boundaries because of abuse we'll support that and that's exactly what's necessary because here's something else you guys should start quoting with you on that you should start quoting what martin luther king said i fear as though i've integrated my people into a burning house america is a burning house like dr king it's a brilliant letter and he hits it right out of the ballpark i got a question above the law that's the law of god and dr king was absolutely right why is there a popular hashtag that's been going around that says free palestine the interview yeah why not we don't we don't do hashtags i'm just asking i don't have the faintest idea why someone writes what they write do you know what a hashtag is you guys i'm just saying like you guys haven't heard the phrase free hashtag retarded yes we've heard a phrase so what does that phrase mean to you guys what does that phrase mean to me it means that we as human beings have this innate understanding that an american thug is still a thug a palestinian thug is still a thug and a jewish thug is still a thug you don't want to say that we all have a problem with sin and if someone is being oppressed then those of us who are not oppressed should fight for their liberation so we are supporting freeing oppressed people we are supporting the value of every single human being because we're created in the image of god because we're all so loved by god that he sent his only son christ to bleed and die on a cross to forgive us and to give us eternal life that is why we stand for the dignity and sanctity of all of human life got you now give me the space to say this when jewish people were oppressed right jewish people turned around and then they were given the state of israel with the belfort declaration so that they could have the space to heal and then what do they do now they turn around and oppress the people right next door to them if that doesn't say that they're the devil i don't know what does and on top of that just just just to walk the dog a little further you understand if palestine isn't free then black and hispanics are not free in america and in the same capacity if you could understand that jewish people needed a space to heal from german occupation then you better understand that we need that space to heal from white whether christian or not occupation that doesn't make you superior though right they're bars just because you need space doesn't make you superior no we're just we're superior because god said it okay oh because god said it because because the israelites weren't a light to all gentiles and nations right scripture never says that well you know what i realized when i read isaiah the 60th chapter oh go ahead please no no stay right there to be the light that mean you're in darkness so you have to come up to the light that's the epitome of superior that's right you're not like because they were the chosen people but not out of anything that they've done and it was by god's grace and i still haven't heard here's the amazing part no grace i got you i got you but here's the amazing part in isaiah 60 right when the fulfillment comes right and the rising of the light onto israel you know what happens when you're in the light you're in the light you're in the light you're in the to the strangers anyone who won't serve Israel gets destroyed you the strangers shall build up thy walls so so I mean if we want to talk about fulfillment of prophecy oh it says and the nation that shall not serve thee shall be utterly destroyed so I can't wait for the light to come I can't wait to be a light to the Gentiles yeah I can't wait for you to pay tribute to us instead of a tree I can't wait for that now for the grace part nobody pays tribute to a tree that I know of for us a tree is a symbol of a holiday but your grace being under grace means whatever you did wrong according to the law you now have a grace period to correct so if he was an adulterer a liar a thief murderer I don't know what to do with that. you have to correct that grace is not a time to keep sinning so when y'all keep putting that Christmas tree in your house you're not under grace in Hebrews 10 and 26 it says if you sin willfully after receiving the knowledge there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins so today y'all got knowledge of that idol so even though y'all not Israelites y'all take y'all keep that tree in your house the Lord just might burn that house down and remember what you said that you are morally perfect so you don't need grace do you sir Christ you're a perfect person perfect as your father in heaven yeah and none of us are perfect that's why we need his grace did he say that yes he calls it to be perfect absolutely that's right and so Matthew 5 and 48 be ye therefore perfect that's the goal so that means we can do it that's the goal you can't use the phone you can't use the phone continue please with what I don't know who was talking before this I told him they house might burn after receiving knowledge of the truth about that Christmas tree I'm not afraid of that I'm afraid of he's running a person rejecting God's grace for the sin that they've committed yeah that's sad we all are sinners and we all need God's grace and I'm a sinner a dirty rotten sinner I am and that's why I need Christ and the Apostle Paul writes in Romans chapter 7 that he struggled with sin himself the Apostle Paul in Romans chapter 7 so if Paul struggled with sin I'm an arrogant twit if I say I don't struggle with sin because I'm just like Paul valuable because we're creating the image of God but we're all rebels against God we all have a sin problem Paul didn't struggle with sin no he sure did what day is it today I think it's the 12th but what day happy day what hold on what day is it Friday it's Friday point deduction do you go by Fridays yes Friday sundown Saturday sundown Friday has pagan roots though where Friday came from worshiping horses right right right right so you should talk about the day you should be talking I'm talking about the day Friday right so why it's just why are you okay with Friday we shouldn't call Friday we shouldn't say Friday you're worshiping the word you're worshiping horses right now I would be worshiping the Hebrew by the way bro in the Hebrew baby I think this guy's literally as intelligent as a horse I've been agreeing with you the whole time we should drop we should drop hey who created the name who created the name Friday did the Israelites create the name Friday for us it's just the sixth day no no his pagan roots regardless it doesn't matter it's Hebrew or anything it's worshiping horses that don't even make sense what do you mean it's history yet again if you're gonna say Christmas trees be consistent it's the days of the week bro so the word Friday what did they do with Friday worshiping horses right is where the word came from no no that's not what I'm asking you twee for example Tuesday was also that's not what I'm asking we came from worshiping all the week came from worshiping horses but that's not where the names I'll get them wrong so you know if it's an idol tree I'm gonna pick on you with your days of the week unless you want to rename them I don't have to be renaming them here's the difference don't go by it here's the difference that's what they're not not that fake tree the actual tree is what a pine tree or something like that it depends for okay so let's say let's say for a tree let's say if i take a fir tree and just put it in my house on any day i'm just asking is that a sin according to you how you're interpreting scripture no it's not a sin it's not but if i did it the way that jeremiah the 10th chapter does it then it is a sin right uh if it's if you're going by that then again you have to go with mixed fabrics if i'm wearing let's just stay right with the horses mixed fabrics then that's just as much of a sin as me bringing a tree into my house on december why are you running i'm not running okay so we got the horses so we got the horses and the tree so you agree that if you do that the way that jeremiah the 10th chapter says that makes it an idol so you take the word friday friday is just a word the only way it would be idol worship is if i did whatever that horse shit that you just said because you're talking horse shit no no no it doesn't matter it doesn't matter because i didn't make the day still the name i didn't make the day from people worshiping i didn't i didn't make the day you worship horses no it doesn't matter that you didn't make the day yes it does i didn't make the day december 25th the only way that it matters is if i'm worshiping horses i don't i am consistent that's the dumbest argument i've ever heard not even close that's the dumbest argument i've ever heard that's the best you got is the argument you know hop into the debate bro you're not you're not you're not even in the same arena right here come on start spinning oh thank let's go so the horses is what y'all gonna die on no your tree is what you could die on you're dying on a tree you're gonna die on jesus god no it's not an idol the difference between you and i i don't have horses on friday you have that tree on december 25th you got that house running i already told you i don't have mixed fabric you've never worn a mixed fabric you only wear cotton you can wear different material just has to be the same material so again so wait a second let me get this straight in the house let me get this straight that black shirt that you're wearing it's got no no what about the gray is that cotton you can actually put the gray is not the cotton man that is not the same gray mixing fabrics right now and the old testament says never mix fabrics the design is on it that's not a mixed fabric so you never wear mixed fabrics no so you know wait wait wait so you know when you wear when you wear a priest you know when you wear a priestly garment i'll get you one you guys you know when you wear a priestly garment you put different material on the same thing there's jewels on the priestly garment all that is on a priestly garment that didn't make no sense but on you got a tree in your house right now you play football you got a tree in your house right now you play football uh-uh do you ever throw a football no you never touch a football when i was a kid i'm a grown when you're a sinner grown man don't play football no no i'm saying i'm grown i don't play football you never throw a football is that because it's against your rules in the old testament because you're not supposed to touch pigskin so that's smart well it got to be made out of pigskin oh they don't even make them out of pigskin no more you're breaking them out of pigskin except the christmas tree one i get it you just brought up a whole lot i get it that makes sense i don't play football but if you never throw football if that tree in your house right now throwing a football would be sinning for you is that tree in your house right now i'm gonna bring the football out of my car i'm gonna throw it to you today you better not catch you better run from it is that tree in your house you're sinning can you answer is the tree in your house the tree is outside my house and i have a little one inside that i do not worship so the difference between you and i is i don't have a horse i don't have a football you do have but you know mixed fabrics and no mixed fabrics okay but you do have that idol in your house right now and you better pray the most hard on say i'm gonna judge them you know that's incredible the way you're being so judgmental about a tree good gracious man grow up how did god there is nothing wrong with having a tree how does god feel about idol worship car how does god feel about idol christ said the first commandment is the love of all my soul money is the big idol in america not a tree no it's money and you know what that power i'm glad you said money i agree that's what the real issue is and you know why you should be surprised by a stinking tree come on buddy i'm answer get in touch with reality okay so i'm gonna answer you i'm gonna answer you i'm gonna answer you reality is idolatry in america has to do with money thank you sex and you know what america did with that tree with a tree got you so you know what america did with that tree that's why they call it black friday the day after thanksgiving until christmas they make you spend all the money in the world for that nobody makes me under that tree yes everybody waits until now that's why you got all the sales and everything so when you say money you're right and the christian america who is not christian america hates god they may show that tree make y'all spend that money new york is packed right now to spend that money for that tree they're gonna put a big tree in the middle of new york put gifts on it everybody in their house about to put gifts so you write about money that tree brings money and everybody presenting their gifts just like jeremiah the tenth chapter said that is the idol worship yes they are man then why does it go to the tree it doesn't all go to the kids gotta run as soon as they wake up mommy mommy does santa come and then you hate jesus christ because even if you say that's your birthday you got that white man so what's the difference between the old and new covenant you know what's crazy what's the difference between the old and the new covenant let me just say one last thing in the old like the tree let me just say prescriptive is only if it's repeated in the new testament okay let me let me like the ten commandments i'm gonna answer that after i make this one statement here's how disrespectful y'all are with santa claus to god and jesus christ santa claus has a song he knows when you're sleeping he knows when you awake what is this so be good for his rap so they have you believe he stole this rap song it's god it's plagiarism because he knows if you good or bad when the kids go to sleep at night they thinking about santa claus they're not thinking about no jesus they're thinking about santa guys i've spoken to a lot of americans and none of the americans i speak to worship santa claus yes y'all do no they do not they don't worship y'all got reindeer i bet y'all got rain come on get in touch you have to understand americans do not worship santa claus why do you think gamestop offers shh why do you think gamestop offers such low value for their tradings don't you think they will disincentivize customers from going there in general maybe if they offer better prices they could improve their reputation and sell more products no because it's easier to just download it right off of playstation and xbox i was asking about trade-ins what are you going to trade in with most people it's digital world now that's like getting a cd no but the bad the bad thing with gamestop that people talk about is they offer such a low amount for trade-ins obviously going digital is easy but yeah but now with people i mean i they should you should be able to get a discount when you buy something digitally and you want to return it because you don't have to get the you can't return it usually digitally it's not yeah just delete it yeah but then you don't get your money back that's i just said you should get something for that digitally if you okay if you delete it yeah if you delete it or something and what do you guys think that's what do suck about a game that's why gamestop offered well gamestop kind of stupid okay but that's why no but actually it's more like a financial question the reason why this is weird i know more about this than them the reason why gamestop is charging such less money is because of the digital age back in the day no they've been doing bullshit about this forever but did no but you gotta think like in the past 10 years it's been more digital like even right now when i'm more than 10 years when i downloaded call of duty and i downloaded battlefield okay i didn't have to go to the store yeah but also i'm surprised gamestop still open it is but there's some minuses of going just digital you know they get to decide when the game goes offline they can take your license away from you and not let you play the game anymore whereas if you buy an offline game in a physical physical condition it's all yours but a lot of people you can also again sell it right it's easier but also it takes up more space digitally yeah but people are not like we live in a microwave era so they want a microwave i said we like i don't live in a microwave yes you do we want everything we want everything fast we don't want to preheat the oven you're trying to relate and stuff but i think that's just related i just know about gamestop you said you live in a microwave i said we i didn't say a microwave all of us oh you do in the same one that's a little gay that's a little weird it's a little small of a space for two men that's y'all side of the world y'all know about a microwave i said we okay listen a microwave is usually about this big microwave is a metaphor it's very weird what's going on you knew that though uh did god make the israelites so good at basketball because he felt bad for taking away their intelligence god hasn't taken away the intelligence of the israelites okay all are human beings created in the image of god which means we have rational minds that's his mantra i don't think he has a rational mind well i would disagree that's a very good point one of the ways sin is shown is in being irrational and yet i'm one of the pieces of one of my pieces of evidence that god exists is the rational mind i mean think about it if there is no god what you believe is the non-rational produce the rational that's absurd it's far more reasonable to believe that behind our rational minds is a rational mind a creator god right then it is to believe that our rational minds came from the non-rational are you what about bert is he rational or no i'm sure bert's rational i don't know what game he's playing right now yeah so i don't know what he what's going on he's not playing any game no bert's a human being created the image of god he's a precious valuable human being who jesus loved so much he bled and died on a cross to forgive you for your sin and to give you eternal life now they they also believe that jesus is black you guys can get into that but i actually was going to say that i have some evidence that he wasn't what's your evidence a picture well No, if he was black, then he would have turned the water into Henny. Is that not true? Henny is a white man's liquor, though. No, it's not. No. Wrong. No, it's not. Is this guy fucking crazy or what? Listening is an art. Yeah, and you are an F. You're failing the listening class. You've been interrupting this whole time, like 24-7. Because this is black. No, he isn't. Yes, he is. Okay, then why wasn't he drinking Henny? Because we was drinking wine back then. We was drinking wine. You were around back then? Yeah, my people was. That's my history. Just like with the Jewish people. You say, we was this, we was that. I'm not Jewish. I'm not Jewish. Okay, white. When you talk about your white history, you say, we did this. We built America. That's what you say. Now you're saying something interesting. You're saying that you're able to survive for thousands of years because you shove yourself into a microwave? No, they didn't have microwaves back then, man. It was like a little time capsule. Then I just popped out in 75. In 75? Yeah. 1975. Oh, I thought you meant like 1775. No. Okay. 1775. Anyways, we'll move on. I don't even know what he's talking about. I would have unalived like George Washington. Who brought this up? I would have unalived Thomas Jefferson. You would have unalived them? Yeah, I would have made sure. I don't think you would have got close to them. You would have walked up and they went, get back to work. You wouldn't have got close to him. And I would have been the one doing it and I would have been happy about it. George Washington probably would have took my teeth to make his own teeth because he didn't have no teeth. He probably would have did something like that. Yeah, he didn't have no teeth? Yeah. I guess this one's protruding a little bit for you, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, would you guys like to talk about Israel? What about it? Just in general, I guess. Oh, you're talking about the state of Israel right now? It's fucked up. If you guys want to get involved with that. I don't know what your guys' positions are. I remember last time you said you don't like Israel or Palestine. Yeah, I don't like Israel or Palestine. And I'm not sure where you guys stand on that. But I think Israel is more wrong than Palestine, but I don't like neither one of them. Israel is more wrong than Palestine. Yeah, I agree. I don't know if that's how. The state of Israel has broken down. Language works. That's what the white man does. He breaks treaties. Okay. So he broke every treaty with the Palestinians. They unalive little kids and blown up hospitals and shit like that. I worship a Jew, Jesus of Nazareth. That Jewish man claimed to be more than a man. He claimed to be God in human form. He'll be worshiping me soon. And the evidence of the way he lived, talked, died, and rose from the dead points to Jesus being reliable. Get ready to worship us. Listen, you'll be worshiping us soon. No, I don't worship a human being. You just said you worship Jews. I worship Jesus of Nazareth. That's right. That's right. And you're going to worship all the Jews. So anti-Semitism in the name of Christianity is obviously a contradiction in terms. It's total hypocrisy. What is anti-Semitism? What is that? Embracing an attitude of superiority towards Jewish people and denigrating Jewish people. The same way racism is expressed towards black people as being inferior, and that's evil. The same way racism is displayed. Right. The same way racism is displayed in viewing white people as inferior. Now, what does that have to do with you serving the Jews? That is a violation of the fact that we all have equal value and dignity because we all are created in the image of God. God did not create us all equal at all. He sure did. No, he did not. Equal in value. Not equal in talents, that's for sure. But equal in value, yes. And the Bible says all the nations are as nothing but the drop of a bucket. Yeah, that's a good metaphor. That's what God said. A nation is not literally a drop of water in a bucket. Like a speck of water. A highly symbolic language there, sir. But it still means you nothing, though. And you better acknowledge that. It still means you nothing. And your viewing other people as inferior to you is tragic, and it's an example of sin. No, more black people should understand that so we can stop looking up to white people. We don't have to look up to them. We're trying to live like white people. When we live like white people, that's why we kill. Just forget it. We kill, get high, sell drugs, live like white people. Live in reality, which is God created all human beings with equal value and dignity. If we live like the Jews. You want to say something? I do. This is interesting, right? You're familiar with Mark the Seventh. Mark the Seventh chapter. Mark Seven? Yeah. Yeah. So you're familiar with the Syrophoenician, the woman who was Greek by nation? Yeah. So when Christ, you understand, did a comparison, right? Since we all like metaphors, right? I don't think we need a lexicon for this. Right, we don't need a lexicon. So when he said, let the children first be fed, for it is not meat, you understand, to take the children's bread and give it on to the dogs. That's not okay. Who was the children? Who was the dog? Jesus is dipping into a very racist view. He is not including it directly. Why don't you let me answer it, sir, instead of telling me how I'm to answer it and when? No, no, no. Why don't you just listen for a change? It'd be healthy. So, come on, Cliff. The Syrophoenician woman came asking Jesus to heal the child. And Jesus says, no, not right now. But then he sees the faith of the woman and he heals the child immediately. But, Mark, hold on. He didn't answer the question. You didn't explain to me who is the children and who is the dog. But I'm glad you brought up the faith. Because if I remember correctly, he says, for thy saying. Her saying was, yes, Lord, I am a dog. But don't dogs get to eat of the crumbs of the table? Now, I'm not a zoologist. You know what I mean? I'm not a biologist. But I could only assume that your child is way greater than a dog. So, children are greater than the pets. Christ says somebody is the child and somebody is the pet. Could you decipher who's who? Yeah, it's real simple. Every human being is created in the image of God. We have equal value. Jesus was dealing with some racist terminology, some superiority, inferiority terminology. And he was showing how bankrupt that line of thinking is. So, let me give you mine. And he healed the daughter. No, let me. The bottom line is, he healed the daughter. Right. And he uplifts her. Right. He healed the daughter. And you know why? Because her faith was so great when she realized that she was inferior to the children of Israel. Which is why he said, not only for thy faith, he said, woman, for thy saying. Who's the hero of the parable of the Good Samaritan? And her saying. A Samaritan is not a Jew. Don't run from this. Don't run from this. I know it hurts. I'm not running from you at all. I know it hurts. No, it doesn't hurt at all. Because this pops a pin in your entire life. I'm not hurting at all. With the Good Samaritan. Because Christ turned around. The Good Samaritan. Is the hero of his best known parable. And the Good Samaritan is the hero. You read one verse. I am. You are the children. You are the dog. One verse. You get a cult. Look how disciplined they were until right now. The Sero-Phoenician is the dog. And the children of Israel are superior. No, the children of Israel are not superior. The Jews have just as much value as any other human being. When it comes to Christ, Christ clearly was talking about Israel being the children. And clearly, that white woman. Being the dog. Yeah, that's the Sero-Phoenician. The Sero-Phoenician, she was a Greek by nation. Sero-Phoenician, Greek by nation. That doesn't mean she's Caucasian, bro. So now, and we know what a female dog is, right? We know what a female dog is. Gangulona. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Female dog is a bitch. Bow wow. Roof! Roof! I told you he was a dog. That is such convoluted thinking. That's not. It's scary. So scary. And he said, for this saying, your daughter is here because she knew her position. Dad, do I need to ask you something? That's why y'all gonna have to be on the phone. Y'all gonna have to be forced into y'all's position. Do I need a lexicon over here? Because y'all don't like that good white woman. Y'all don't say, yes, we'll be the dogs. You think you're going to be equal. So the nation that would not serve shall perish. Wait, before you do that, just pause. 10 seconds. Or is everything going to come out of the Bible? 10 seconds. Everything. 10 seconds. The reason why-- You're not going to do well in life if you just say, all truth is only from the Bible. But I'm going to talk while y'all talking. I'm just asking for 10 seconds. Yeah, you're right. Listen to him. OK. And then after that, I just want 10 seconds. Yeah, sure. And then after, listen to him. No problem. I know it hurt. First off-- No, bro, it hurt. It ain't hurt at all. What it hurts is embarrassing. Let me tell you. That one burns. Yeah, that one burns. No, no, no. I get it. I get it, bro. It's a tough passage. I'm with you. It's hard. It's hard. But I don't need a lexicon to understand it together. There's some tough passages in the Bible where you actually need to understand context and as well as who the audience is, who he's speaking to. So Mark chapter 7, with the Syrophoenician woman, let me tell you exactly what's going on there. It's a tough reading, right? Just like slaves obey your masters. We haven't gotten there yet. So it's a tough reading that is stressing Jesus Christ by the healing, but also when he says, well done with your answer, what he's doing is not saying Jews are superior. What he's saying is she understands grace, that the Jews were chosen by grace. Nothing that they did, just like Noah, for example, was not chosen just because he was a great guy like these guys down here. No, he was chosen by grace. So the Syrophoenician woman answers with, even the dogs get the crumbs, saying, even the Gentiles and the Jews both get the crumbs. I know that's a dick. When it comes to-- Sorry, bro. What did he just say? You take-- I heard everything. No, no, tell-- give it to us. What did he say just now? I'm not-- pause. I'm not giving you anything. You can't pause. You can't pause. You can't, man. You're scared. That's why you can't pause it. You didn't understand what he said. Oh, I forgot. He white. You don't know pauses. He forgot. What did he say? You don't know what pauses mean. Just come on. Give it back to me. What he said was, that Christ got me-- He didn't even answer a word. That's why he's moving out of that tub. What did I say? You're popping out, sir. Boom, baby. You're running away. Boom. It's going to be OK, Cliff. Run away. You said that Christ healed her because of grace. That's what pauses mean. What I want to speak on, when I want to ask for the 10 seconds-- Yeah, you want to speak on something else. 10 seconds. Let's go. It'll be-- it'll probably be 15. Let's jump real fast. The reason why-- Dodge, real quick. The reason why, when you see black people say, we are superior, and why we push that, because in this world, we're taught to be inferior. We're taught to put your head down when you see a white man or woman. Oh! We're taught to say-- Yes, ma'am. No, sir. When we see our own people, we get to talk to our own people with such disdain and grace. Nobody can even hear us. Even like right now. Even like right now. As I say here, as I say here, you're not stronger than me. As I sit here and try to empower black people, you see, the white man don't want y'all to hear that. So what he would rather do, what he would rather, I said it might be more. I said it might be. You said 10. I did say, and then I said 15. And you said, no, it might be like 15. But sometimes when we go on a rant, we go on a rant. So this is my rant. So now black people need to see black men putting superiority and being proud and standing for your morality and not the white man's morality. Our morality is following the law, statute, and commandments of God. The white man's morality is that Christmas tree, Santa Claus, getting high, find some white bimbo, and think you're going to be good and have a good life with. Ever. That is not. That would be dumb to follow white. Men. You're damn right. Click that. Follow Jesus Christ. Follow Jesus Christ. And Christ is a black man. He's the way. Thank you. Fine. Follow Jesus Christ. I'm glad you said that. He said fine. I appreciate that. Deuteronomy 2868. I really don't care what you think about Jesus' ethnic heritage and racial identity. What I do care about is that you get to know Jesus Christ. Because we didn't say Deuteronomy 2868 the whole time. You did the wrong homework. There's about a thousand sex of you. So what sex are you? So maybe we did the wrong homework. We don't do homework. We didn't do homework. But tell us. We didn't know what exactly. We're the home of the truth. What sect are you, bro? The home of the truth. I don't know. I didn't even know you guys were coming. That's actually a good question. What sect are you? Are you guys from like Ghana or where are you from? You want to go. You fantasize about Ghana women? What are you even talking about? Because you love Ghana. Like Ghana is your thing. That's your kink? That's just. Is Ghana your kink? No, of course not. I would go crazy. And I'm. You might be with black. You might. You like that dark meat. Anyway. Yeah, I think he liked that dark meat. You mentioned Ghana a couple times. Ghana's a wonderful country. Huh? What do you have against Ghana? Ghana's a great country. I don't. It's just not my country. There's a lot of Christians in Ghana. 50% of Africans. And that's why Ghana's fucked up because Christianity's there. What about. I don't think that's the reason. What about Sudan? Do y'all know the doctrine of discovery? You're about to cancel all of Africa. If I could. You're going to do some African history. The doctrine of discovery. This isn't a bird house. It's what y'all used as a license to enslave any other race of people. That's Christianity. No, it's not. No, it is not. Y'all called America manifest destiny. He didn't come to enslave anybody. Yes, he did. He didn't enslave anybody. Are you kidding me? Christopher Columbus enslaved the Taino Indians. I didn't talk about Christopher Columbus. I was talking about Jesus Christ. In the name of the blessed trinity, Columbus enslaved the Taino Indians. And then you enslaved the Mexicans. Enslaved the native Indians. And that's sick. Created a holiday called Thanksgiving. Sick. Which is about the slaughter of them. And you think Christianity was good? Christianity is diabolical. It's diabolical. Christianity has been used to do evil. That's right. That's why I'm not saying put your faith in Christianity. It's as evil as that Christmas tree. That's why I'm saying don't put your faith in Jesus Christ. For the audience, I keep saying Christmas because that's the theme of today. The theme is Christmas. The Israelites married, literally, and remarried Amalekites, for example. Canaanites, for example. They did not rape no Amalekites. No, they did not. Wait, wait, wait. 1 Samuel 17? Have you read 1 Samuel 17? What does God say for the Israelites to do? He told them to. To wipe out every single one. He didn't say rip them. Hey, bro. He said wipe them out. And what did Saul do? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Saul spit it. Saul spit it. Hold on, hold on. He just said to wipe them out. You said, is it good to do? Oh, shit. Yes. It's good to do? Why is it good to do? Because God said so. Because God said so. Why did Saul lose the throne? Answer the question. So if you're God, however you're defined, I don't know how you're even defining God. You brought this up. Answer the question. If God says right now for you to kill Bert, are you going to kill Bert? Answer the question. Are you going to kill Bert? Why did Saul answer the question? I asked my question first. No, no, no, no, no. I want to stay here. Because you asked. I just want y'all to know, this is the proof that white people are behind black-on-black crime. Right there. That doesn't make any sense, y'all. Yes, it does. Because you asked me if God would let me kill another black man. That's why it is. So now, why did Saul lose the throne? Kill him. Because he spared the Amalekites. He lost the. No. Yes, he did. For many reasons. Yes, Samuel came right to him and said. It wasn't just that one. Yes, it was. Samuel came right to him. I don't know why. You do not know the Bible. He fell on his sword, bro. You don't know the Bible. Saul fell on his sword. Pick it up. I don't know my Bible. Because Samuel came right to King Saul and said, why did you spare these Amalekites? I'm going to shoot you off the show if you don't pick it up. Why didn't you underlie them too? And Saul said, well, I wanted to give the best. I wanted to keep the best cow, the best this, the best that. And he lost the throne to King David. So why would you bring that story up? He's going to kill. What? He lost his throne because he disobeyed the king. He disobeyed God's order. Yeah. Yeah. And there was still a lot of. But there was no. That the Israelites made. There was no. Constant idolatry. And you know what? Constant rumbling in the desert. With all the mistakes that Israelites made, God still loved them enough to save Christ. That's why God even used other civilizations to judge the Israelites. You're right. And what comes to those nations that. I'm not always right, but I'm right on that one. You're right. What comes to the other nations that judged Israel? What happens to them? Not every single one was judged. No, no. The Israelites were judged. You're right. Listen to what I said. It depends which one you're going to talk about. It is the Assyrians and the Babylonians to judge the Jews. I've listened to you. I said what happens to them. God used the Assyrians and then the Babylonians to judge the Jews for their immorality. I'm going to fuck him up if he doesn't pick it up. No, you're not. I am. If you lay a hand on him, you're not going to make it back to California. I'm not going to do it while you're here. I'm going to do it. I'm telling you, Bert. Then I'm staying here until he leaves. Bert, I'm telling you, I'm going to find you if you don't pick it up. No, you ain't find it. Whatever you find, you let me know. I'll pay him. No, fuck that. Bert, you know that I'm going to end up seeing you. No, fuck that. Fuck that. Pick it up, Bert. No, fuck that. If you think he's going to protect you for long enough, then take that bet. If they believe you would do anything, I'm right here. He lives in New Jersey, Bert. That's right. You're in L.A. all the time. He ain't going to be there. I got a school in L.A. too. Cap Goddard, I'll give you the phone number. He do anything, they'll be there. They'll whoop the shit out of this white boy. Guaranteed. That's your thing. You guys get whooped. Nah, not this time. And he's the one who does it. You're going to need an army. The white man does it. An army? Yeah. I mean, we're way more powerful. Come on. Not you right now. Not like one to one. That's why you're sitting in that seat. You ain't going to jump on him now. You're going to wait until the big black guys leave. Yeah, because you got three of them versus one. I'm the only one going to do something. Yeah, well, I guess he's one. No, he's not going to do nothing. All you got to do is do something. I'm not going to fight you. If I tell him, I mean, it's a wrap. If you listen to him, he's the boss? Absolutely. What's his name again? Johnny? Katazar. That's not his name. That is his name. No, it isn't. Do you guys believe his real name is Katazar? I mean, where do you even come up with the idea? It's like, okay, from now on, you're not going to be Jamarcus. You're going to be Katazar. You picked the weirdest black names, man. Jamarcus? Because you refuse to tell me what his real name is. I know his name is not Katazar. That's his name. His real name is Katazar. It's not an R. It's not Katazar? Yup. No, they don't. It's not an R on the end of it. It's just Katazar. It's almost like a transgender thing. It's like his mother and father. It's as ridiculous as it. You can tell you're a white man. Maybe even more ridiculous. White man goes straight to some gay shit. Good, good. Exactly. Tell them I'm a white man. Jewish people go to gay shit, too. He's gay, by the way. Just so you know. Are you gay? Are you bisexual? Are you bisexual? Why are you fucking with her? Don't lie now, bro. Don't try to buck break my brother right now. That's the problem. That's what y'all did since slavery. Y'all always, you ain't gonna do nothing, man. I am. I'm gonna. Nah. I'm gonna send somebody after you, bro. Fucking stupid, man. Anyways, yeah, I don't know. The thing about your friend being. We got two schools. What's actually your name? Matter of fact, we got three schools in California. Can you tell me your real name? Captain Katazar. Oh, that's his last name. His first name is Katazar. Come on. You know what they say? It's like when you introduce yourself to be respectful. It's not respectful to give somebody a fake, phony name. That's the name. That's his name. Just like my name is Tazaryat. Mr. Moderator, how much longer do you want to go? How much longer? Maybe like five, ten minutes? Oh, at least. Great. Okay. Because I know soon Long Necky's coming. And then he's gonna end up fighting and killing him. Or something like that. Anyways, yeah, let me ask another one. Do you, I guess we'll do this one real quick. This is just directed at you guys. Do you think I could beat Frank Cherry in a fight? Bam! Oh, I think I could. Give me some training time. Do you know who Frank Cherry is? I don't know. Their whole religion is based on this guy who had a dream. He's sort of like Martin Luther King, but he was. Like Joseph Smith. Yeah, but like in a literal way. Like Muhammad. He literally had a dream. So they believe in this guy, Frank Cherry. I'm wondering if I could beat him in a fight. I don't believe in Frank Cherry. I know who he is, but I don't believe him. Oh, you don't think he's kind of came. Well, he came up with the whole religion. I think he's definitely. Well, we actually. If you actually knew the history, like oral tradition, Harriet Tubman and her whole family knew that they were Israelites too. Okay. We have family in our school that go back. But the whole thing kind of was started by the guy, Frank Cherry. If you want to talk about. Harriet Tubman is an awesome woman of faith in Jesus Christ. Incredible. Right, but she also was an Israelite. She had a Hebrew name and everything. Fine. No problem. But she believed in Jesus and she followed him. Yeah, and not the black Jesus. Right. Yes, she did. Yeah, she believed in the black one. That's why they called her. Moses. Where's the evidence of that? So. Where's the evidence of what? He's in our family. They're in our family. They're in our school. We have. Her family is in our school. I don't know a single person who thinks that Harriet Tubman. Would you send her to the black Jesus? You shouldn't know because she ain't a part of your family. your family she's not in your family i said in our school we have her family in our school if somebody sends their kids to your school they should get arrested for child endangerment and send them to the roman catholic church or a priest no maybe send them to that school when they go to send them to a school what happened when they go to sunday school they get yeah but they're not saying to send them to church instead of school i'm saying to send i was in school right and they learn none of our kids are safe no no no they're not learning nothing yes they are that's why we have lawyers that's why we what didn't i would die just graduate college if we're going by your didn't one of our guys just graduate from college one of our guys graduated from college right yeah one of our guys we got engineers we have all that we got land we got people we got all that we got a guy who'll pick your brain that's fantastic keep going you get out the way we're gonna keep going i'm not in your way people i'm not impeding you hold on man we got a guy that's why we got a guy who'll pick your brain that's why we got a guy who'll pick your brain incredibly we got a guy here pick your brain apart and there's a 50 50 chance you survive and if it's successful you'll see out of your right eye a little bit better experiment and we got an engineer as well yeah he kind of knows how to get in the door if it's unlocked or something okay anyways let's move on um the best man we'll start with you guys on this if you had to describe the other debater as an animal which would you choose not counting this guy who's obviously a no if you have to describe i don't have to do that and i would resist it okay fine all right there's too much degradation of human life going on in this world and christ calls us to insist that people are to be treated respectfully for a reason and the reason is god made him with innate intrinsic value and dignity you say a god in eight okay and god loves him so much he sent his son christ to bleed and die on a cross to forgive them and give them eternal life god loves you so much he wants you to spend eternity with him in heaven okay they're not going to let you go they're not a lot of people who want to spend eternity with me i have an animal christ call them dogs we call them dogs no i think christ was calling you guys no that's the story no no yeah that's exactly what it was anyways let's move on um during the end times what do you think will happen to the other player that's a great question we'll start with you god will judge all of us fairly uniquely and justly right and all of us have sinned so none of us have lived a perfect life and we all are in God offers us through the death of his son Christ on a cross. Forgiveness, grace, mercy. When Jesus was dying on the cross, two thieves were hung on either side of him. The first thief turns to him and says, come on, miracle boy, save us from these crosses and we'll believe in you. Second criminal turns to the first criminal and says, you idiot, we bleed and die here because we deserve it. But this Jesus, he's the innocent, totally pure son of God. And the second criminal turns to Jesus and says, remember me when you come into your kingdom. And Jesus doesn't say, get down and live a perfect life. He says, I tell you the truth. Today you'll be with me in paradise. That's grace. God's undeserved, unearned, unmerited forgiveness and love. And that's what Christ offers to every one of us. That's what Frederick Douglass understood. And that is why I have so much respect for my devoted followers of Christ who are African-American, who have refused to give white people, white racists, the power to turn them off to the true Jesus who did not have a racist bone in his body. And that's why my friends who are debating here today are making a crucial mistake if they reject Christ, because he did not have a racist bone in his body. Obviously, Christianity has been racist at times. We all know that. That's a fact, a historical fact. But Jesus did not have a racist bone in his body. That's why putting your faith in him is so wise. It's so smart. Great. The Bible says, he who leadeth in the captivity shall go into captivity. It's pronounced Bible, not Bible. He who killeth with the sword must go into captivity. He who killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Thus is the patience and faith of the saints. So since all these Christians we've been talking about historically led blacks, Latinos, native Indians, the indigenous into captivity, y'all are going into captivity. This is why I thank God for the light of the Gentiles. I thank God for Revelations, the second chapter, where it says that he who endures to the end, the same will I give power over the nations and we shall rule them with a rod of iron. So I just think that that's justice. I think that's incredible. And God only loves the nation of Israel. And Christ only loves Israel. That's what God loves. And this is why we are the children and y'all are the dogs. John 4:22, Christ says salvation is of the Jews. Christ said, I am not sent, but into the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He didn't say he was for everybody. That is the epitome of what today they would call racism. But Christ called it salvation. Israel was under Roman rulership. They were scattered throughout the four corners. The only person that needed saving was the nation of Israel from the conditions that they're in. The same conditions that they're in. Today, the white man had his heaven. His heaven is right now ruling. The Arabs had their heaven. The heaven is when they were ruling. Now it's time for Israel to rule. Christianity would teach you that everybody got to get this salvation together. But when y'all was establishing y'all salvation, y'all made sure y'all got it yourselves. Y'all didn't care about no blacks and Latinos. You wrecked them. You killed them. You tortured them. You lynched them. You systematically oppressive. You killed them. That's what we're talking about. And you believe that just God is going to now let those same white people inherit the same heaven as the people that was oppressed. That don't even make sense logically. The person that so that the that's like telling the and the y'all got to go now live together in the same community. That don't even make sense. An unjust God would do that. And that's what Christians are. Unjust people. Landed right there. So I just find it so interesting that everything you're setting up as ethically, you are superior to God. That's what Christians are. and more moral actually is all just bankrupt because you're saying a certain race is way higher than every other single race. First point. Second point, John 3.16, for God so loved the whole world that he gave his one and only son that whoever, whoever, whoever, that's more than just a black or white race, believes in him, will not perish but have eternal, eternal, throughout time, past, into eternity, life, life. Third point. There are blacks in history. See, it's kind of like the pro-Palestinian lady who was on the jet with me flying home from Mississippi, where she said there's not been a single Saudi Middle Eastern person who's ever been a terrorist. Kind of similar to what I'm hearing over here, where it's people take this racial superior position. And whether that's from an algorithm on social media, or they were just trained and brainwashed early on. In an early age, that's exactly what spreads hate. What Jesus Christ, the real Jesus Christ, who was a Jew and Middle Eastern, so he was neither of our colors, them down there, or us, historically. He was the one who said the Good Samaritan parable, where it was even the Samaritan, good Samaritan, not good Jew, who crossed boundaries, ethnic, socioeconomic, and beyond, in order to get to the Jew. Now, Jesus uplifts Jews all the time as well. Paul, Galatians 3.28, there's neither slave nor free, Greek nor Scythian, male nor female, for all are created in God's image. Equality and love is what we stand for here in America and beyond America, worldwide, Israel, etc. Love is what we stand for. In order to have love, you have to know that all people are created in God's image and are equal. Great, great. So hold on. What was your name again? Me? No, not you. What was your name? I know he's Cliff. Stuart. Stuart. What's your name again? Katza. Katza. No, it isn't. Katza. So what you're saying, right, Stuart? White horse. The Bible says in Ecclesiastes, there's a time to love and a time to hate. So my question for you is, when's the time to hate? Jesus would never say, Jesus, well, yeah, I'm gathering my thoughts. You need to gather your thoughts a little bit more often before you speak. So Jesus would never say, show me in the Bible, where does Jesus ever say there's a time to hate? The time to hate, if you look at it contextually, yet again. Okay, right there. Yet again, never in any interpretation. Contextually, you bring a time to hate. Where in the world do you get biblically, from a holistic perspective, that you're supposed to hate? No, that passage is talking about judgment. There's a time that justice will rule, and yes, a form, if you want to call it hatred, is a judgment that's happening. And so a certain people group or person will be judged, like the Amalekites, like even the Israelites. Isn't that crazy? I got a response. I got a response. So sorry I took a second to collect my thoughts, unlike somebody down here. When Christ beat the money changers out the temple, was there love or hate? Love. Love for his father's temple. So wait, wait, you're right. Thank you. Hate for what? Wait, wait, hate for what? We're listening down there, finally. Hate for what? Evil. In the fourth quarter, we're listening. So there is a time to hate. They say like, well, I'm going to hate and hate and evil every day. There is a time to hate. Absolutely. Hating every day. Because that was hate for the money changers. But now, here's the other point. I need a shirt that says John 314. You know what I'm saying? Because when it's John 314, I'm going to tell you, it says, and as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so shall the Son of Man be lifted up. Yeah. So this is a comparison. So both of them have to be lifted up for the same reason and the same purpose. This is why when it says whosoever, that whosoever is who's under that criteria. Israel had a caste system. Israel had a problem with respect of persons. So the whosoever is where the rich. Or where the poor bond or free man or woman, whosoever of Israel, because guess who Moses lifted the serpent for Israel. So guess what Christ had to be lifted for Israel contextually yet again, what was the reason for the serpent being? on that. What's the whole reason? What was the reason? Why did Moses talk about the lifting up? Go ahead. So the whole point, you understand, was because of the healing of the nation. That's the entire purpose. I'm answering. You asked me. Correct. Yet again. And guess who was being healed? Israel. You can't offer that to anybody else. The covenant isn't for anybody else. The promise isn't for anybody else. And I understand that. Would you guys be on college campuses? I would feel the same way if I wasted my life too. You understand? Reading a book that didn't belong to me. Because in John 17 and 9 when Christ said, I pray for them, I pray not for the world. Is that everybody on the world too? Yeah. Yeah, he's praying. He's not praying for Israel right there. He's saying John 17 and 9, I pray for them, I pray not for the world. He says, I pray not for the world. So that means the word world has context. In 1 John 2 and 15, it says, love not the world. Neither the things in the world. World, flesh, and devil. He who loves the world, the love of the Father isn't in him. But Christ loved the world. Is the love of the Father not in Christ? What are we talking about? Context. Context. Isaiah 45 and 17 says, Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation. Ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded. World without end. So the world is Israel in John 3.16. Isaiah, he used the word, and Christ followed up and used the same word. Because we know Christ read the book of Isaiah. He went right in the temple, opened up, Isaiah said, boom, they talk about the world. I want to save the world too. Let me tell them what God said before. Was Luke a Jew or a Gentile? He was an Israelite. This is pure insanity. Luke was an Israelite? That's a fact. Oh. Timothy, Israelite. Everybody in the New Testament that received salvation was an Israelite. Do your history guys. Just check that one out. Yes, please. Luke, was a Gentile. This is why you don't want to be a cult leader. I am a cult leader, though. Yeah, you are. It's sad. Very sad. Because my people get free from you. And my cult, we get free from you. And your cult, we die over trying to get Christmas gifts. We get shot and go robbed and steal trying to get gifts over Santa Claus. And my cult, we live because we kick that shit out on the street somewhere. So I would rather have my cult obeying God than your cult dying. Let me ask you, were Jews reaching out to Romans and Gentiles, especially after Jesus' death? No. No. Historically, they were not reaching out. In Romans 10 and 1, Paul said, I'm going to answer. I'm going to answer after Jesus' resurrection. They weren't becoming Christians. You're going to quote a verse. I love this. You're going to quote a verse, and you're not going to go to any form of history. Any historical textbook will tell you that specifically Jews were reaching out to Romans. There's a good book you can get caught reading. What was the guy's name, Captain Yoshabo? Meshach. So listen, in the history of medieval Europe, in the history of medieval Europe, they'll tell you in the history of medieval Europe, they'll tell you Christ was a revolutionary who was only about Israel. In Paul's writings, Romans 10 and 1, my heart's desire and prayer to God is for Israel that they might be saved. Romans 11 and 26, and so Israel shall be saved as it is written. James 1 and 1, to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad. Not to a white, an African, a Chinese that's scattered. To the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad. So you take those letters, and then you send those letters out. The letters are to the audience that it's written to. If I write a letter to Kataza in New York, and one of y'all get it, y'all can read it all you want. It's for Kataza. Kataza are going to find and say, hey man, how long y'all going to hold my records? And that's what we're saying in my quote. How long y'all going to hold? Our records. And by the way, lie on the record. That's straight from the mouth of Kakin Slamadon. You got Jesus white, Mary white, the Israelites white, God white. They got all these people wearing the Bible, and they're not in the Bible. That's how it's called. Jesus was not a Republican or a Democrat. He was an Israelite though. And he was about Israelite business. Yes he was. No he wasn't. We already cut you. The good Samaritan wasn't Israelite. That's right. Now here's how you get cut on that. If you know the history, when the Samaritans got put out, did they bring Israelites back to teach them how to serve that God? Yes or no? They followed. Answer the question. No I'm not going to answer your question with a yes no answer. You die, like I said. You're not willing to think. You die in your doctrine. You wouldn't demand a yes no answer. That's intellectually dishonest. Totally dishonest. Yeah you've said that already now. I know because you die. He needs to repeat it a couple times so he can remember. Let me let y'all know. You're not listening. Come on. Listen, learn. In 2 Kings, the 17th chapter, No. There's some Israelites that came back. I thought he was going to say, There's some Israelites that came back. He just passed second grade. Yeah they did come back, that's right. I know, thank you. And that's the Samaritan Yahushua or Christ was talking about, period. Yeah, that's why he's called good. He would never call y'all good. But he called y'all a dog. He called y'all dogs. No. That's pathetic. He looks objectively a lot more like a dog than any of us. That's steering. That's the truth. You guys latch onto that. That is very, very unfortunate. It's very intellectually dishonest. It violates the context totally. It don't violate the Bible. 100%. It does not violate the Bible. Oh yeah. You mean your interpretation is the right one. The Christ said I'm only sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Polony. You need to get out and really study. The Christ said he was only sent for Israel. Read in context. Respect literary style. Come on, man. And look at Jesus honestly. Did he say it? Yes or no? Did he say it? I've already told you. I don't give you a yes or no answer. I don't give anybody yes or no answers. Well, you want to answer the question. I answered the question. You don't like the answer. That's your problem. Did Christ say I'm only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel? For now, yes. He did say that. It never ended. And then he also reached out to Gentiles. Okay. Did the lost sheep ever get recovered? He also reached out to Gentiles. Did the lost sheep get covered? And do you know who the Gentiles are? The Israelites who are living in Galatia and Rome and scattered, which is why the letter of James says to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad, greetings. And so here's the thing. Is James a letter written to everybody or just the 12 tribes? It's a letter written to everybody. You see the problem? Wait, wait. It says James, a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ, and it says to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad. Y'all are committing male fraud. Did Jesus reach out to all Romans in journey? Did Jesus reach out to a Roman centurion? Okay, so now, when it comes down to centurion, I got you. No answer. Were there or were there not Jews in the Roman military? Was Rome an ethnically diverse military? Let's talk about history. See, they want to talk about history all of a sudden. All of a sudden? So I'm asking you a question to gauge what you know or not. It's either you know or not. Am I wasting my time or not? Because there was absolutely Jews. Every single empire that Rome occupied, the first thing that they would do is they would take men to fill the ranks of their army. And guess who was involved inside these armies? Hellenized Jews were a part of that army. Rome is a multi-ethnically diverse nation. That's true. And then on top of that, you have a title of centurion. Centurion is not a race. No. And the fact that you know. Hold on, hold on, hold on. That the one that Christ dealt with was his people was because he didn't try to send her away like the Syro-Phoenician. But when that woman of Canaan came through, you know what he said? Send her away. How about Zacchaeus? That's what he did. How about Zacchaeus? That's what he did. Why don't you stick with where we're at? Yeah. I know. I know. I keep naming so many Gentiles. You want to talk history? I'll talk history. You said five or ten minutes. We're going over ten minutes. It's just long history. I mean, you can talk history and just make it up if you like. And notice the rhetoric. I gave you a shot to answer. You chose not to. Okay. Well, let's move on to the. No, no. I wanted to get taught first. Hold on a second. We're going to move on to the final question. We went for a long time. I know that you guys don't have much longer. It's a little bit dark out. They don't got stamina. Good. We got plenty of stamina. Don't worry. Anyway, yeah. That's what I'm going to be mean right now. What will happen to Long Neck after he dies, considering that it would be hard to call him white, it would be hard to call him Jewish, and he's sort of an evil guy, but not evil in the way that he's doing evil things. It's not evil in the way that he's pure evil. Oh, is he Long Neck? Evil is real. Jesus Christ insisted that one form of evil is. No, him. Is he Long Neck? That's Mike Mike. Who's Long Neck? Long Neck, the media influencer on Instagram. I don't know who that is. Yeah, I can't use my phone. He's the next guest. I mentioned him earlier. That's who you're going to be fighting. Oh, I don't know who that is. He's coming in in about five minutes. That's also why we have to stop the show. Oh, okay. So you can fight Long Neck. If he touches me. I mean, you can defend yourself. I don't start fights. But you're cool. No one's attacked you. But we believe in self-defense. He asked if I was going to fight. Slow down. You're such a challenging guy. He asked me if I was going to fight this guy. I said, if he hits me. I'm answering his question. Can you turn the other cheek? I'm not turning the other cheek. No, that's not what Christ said. Christ said, turn the other cheek to your brother, not to another man hitting you. I would say Long Neck is more like an animal. That's the biggest twisting of that I've ever heard. I'd say he's more closer to that. That's so dishonest. It's scary. Christ did not say, turn the other cheek. You know, you should teach your people what to do. you teaching me wait because they've never turned the other cheek you only murder baloney i've got a lot of friends your race of people only murder you're blinded by your hatred i'm not blind i'm blinded by what happened by your hatred hey are the jewish men right to hate the germans yes because it's not about them being german it's about the crime they committed when i'm talking about white people it's what you have historically done to us more angry more i'm not angry let your hatred flow i'm not angry wait so if i hold on hold on now i don't i don't necessarily want to do this but if i smack the out of you right now you're just going to turn the other cheek yeah that's right can i say you're going to take physical boundaries you're going to turn the other cheek i'm giving you an opportunity all right he said i can't do it oh so he's your god says if he gave me the order though i'll smack the dog all right go ahead because you're racist come on guys you guys are so funny i know you wouldn't so scary come on hit me nutty if he tells you hit me right he's your god then that's scary you're inviting it no i'm not you asked i told you that i will turn the other cheek and you challenge i think you're a hypocrite if i hit you will you turn the other cheek now i pray i will i don't can't guarantee you you see the problem so then you don't follow christ he said that's what i said i don't believe you he said i pray i will i don't know if i really will you know what that means you know what that means you know what that means what it means is you don't really mean that what you mean is that you baiting it what you mean is your