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CLAVICULAR Talks Female Psychology, Drug Habit, Infamy

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CLAVICULAR Talks Female Psychology, Drug Habit, Infamy

Clavicular, a rising social media personality, positions himself as a leading figure in the "looks maxing" movement—a self-improvement ideology focused on enhancing physical appearance to increase sexual market value. He argues that investing in aesthetics is more effective than pursuing traditional education or financial success, especially in a struggling economy where attractiveness offers tangible social and romantic advantages. Drawing on scientific facial ratio studies and self-reported data, he promotes a systematic, almost clinical approach to personal transformation, including hormone therapy, appetite control, and hair loss prevention. The conversation touches on cultural critiques, such as the influence of pickup artist culture and the rise of hyper-masculine aesthetics, while also acknowledging the controversy and backlash associated with his public persona. Clavicular dismisses emotional connections as secondary to appearance, and he challenges societal norms around masculinity, dating, and success. His views are framed as both personal and cultural, reflecting a broader trend where young men are increasingly seeking self-improvement through appearance rather than traditional paths like education or career. While he presents his philosophy as logical and research-backed, the discussion remains laced with humor, irony, and self-deprecation, underscoring the performative and often absurd nature of online beauty culture. The conversation concludes with a strong emphasis on self-optimization over conventional life goals, suggesting that in today’s digital age, visibility and physical appeal are paramount.

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If you're going to take out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of loans, you might as well invest it into surgery rather than going to school. What if you could be a plastic surgeon? And by the way, you can actually get college loans and use it for surgery. So this is a method. So I've been telling people, yeah, you can literally do that. So just misappropriating the funds, it's really not going to get you in that much trouble and your mug, so you'll be able to sort of get out of it. Welcome to a very special episode of the Adam Friedleich show, It's Adam Friedland. We're going to get right into it. My guest this week is Controversial Kick Streamer and Looks Maxer, Clavicular. That guy. Clavicular has enjoyed quite the meteoric rise of the last six months, thanks in part to a series of live stream controversies that have put him on the social radar of anyone and everyone that has a social media feed. I wonder if our parents, do you think our parents do? Your mom knows. Because your mom's horny for you. Bro, bro. Bro, bro, bro. Bro, bro, bro, bro. Okay, now I'm no fan of the things this young man has said about various groups like women, the LGBT community and especially Jews. What has he? I didn't know that. You didn't know that? Yeah. What does he say about this? Not at school. Again, we'll talk about it later. But the bad ones, right? The bad Jews. But I think it's important to view Clavicular as a symptom. A symptom of something much deeper, something much darker, perhaps. A cultural virus that has plagued the country, the world, perhaps, for the last decade. And I'm talking about, of course, I don't have to say it, but none other than video game player and pickup artist extraordinaire, Hassan Piker. Our younger generation has grown up idealizing this man who uses a preter natural fashion sense as a tool for sexual persuasion. How many times have you seen young men at the store, or perhaps the mall wearing this exact outfit, attempting to mold themselves into a man who's quite frankly an anti-Semite. Anti-Semite is the year, mind you. A man who views women as workers, men who livestreams everything he does, makes it about politics. A man who's not even as big as his dog, folks, I'm hoping this interview will be a wake-up call for everyone who's watching it. To stop supporting the monster, Hassan Piker, so please enjoy my interview with Clav Fucking Hell, Jesus Christ, but you can use a phone, why is he using that? Anyway, so please enjoy my interview with Clavicular, everyone, it's going to be a good one. Ladies and gentlemen, the number one streamer on the kick, give it up for Clavicular, everyone. How are you doing, you're in New York City, doing great man, enjoying it, it's a little cold for me. Honestly, I'm 38 years old and I'm learning about looks, maxing stuff, I do a lot of research for the show, and I feel like I just feel like a boomer, I feel like so foreign from the youth of today, I feel like I'm learning a new fucking language or something like that. Right, yeah, all of the terms are quite comical, but you're not in your own world with not knowing about this whole looks, maxing, it's kind of a new thing that's popped up over the past few months, I would say, to the mainstream, but it existed in forums for years, right? Right, yeah, no, it's been around for years, and it had sort of an explosion on TikTok back in 2023 where the kids knew about it, but now it's kind of pushing to acts and people in your demographic a little bit, so. What does that mean, demographing? What does that mean? What is it, what is my demographic? Old sales. Old sales? Yeah. What does that mean? Telebisc? Just like, I get pussy. Shut the fuck up. I get mad. No, it's not like it. That's just one of the terms that we use. My sexual market value is just through the roof. We'll just add sale to the end of a descriptor. Really? It's an old sale. So, what is your role in this ecosystem, how would you define the place that you exist within that? I would say I'm kind of the cultural leader in the looks, Maxing World, you know, because not a lot of people are super well-versed, you know, they're not willing to go to the distance to whatever it takes to ascend through any and every mechanism out there available to them. So, I was like, okay, let's take this to its logical conclusion, you know, with biohacking, with whatever form of ascension necessary. Yeah, are there other, like, or their ops that are trying to come for that number one spot? Do you have to defend the throne? Oh, not that I know about. Are you the hottest guy? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no. Well, that's just, you just know the most. That's about looks, Maxing. Right. Well, that's the goal of the game, right, is to mog other people, right? Tell the Boomer sales about what that is. So, mogging is essentially just, you know, outperforming them, looking better than them, and just sort of dominating, right? It came from something called A-mog, which was alpha male of the group, then it was short to just mog. Yeah. So, that's kind of like the term we use when someone is just like outshining another person in like a photo, or whatever, so if that comes along and happens to me, right, that's just kind of like almost biblical, you know? Have you been mogged by another man? I've definitely been mogged, yeah. Yeah, yeah. How does it feel to get mogged? It's not a great feeling. It feels bad. It's just that a guy's more beautiful than you, or just it could be through, you know, a whole plethora of different things. Maybe they have more money than you, they could money mog you, they could status mog you. Okay. Do you only chill with handsome guys? No, no, no, I chill with the. You have no army friends. I do have no army friends. And what's your perception of those guys that they're like, you feel bad for them? I try not to think about it too much. It's kind of just like the only thing that I'm kind of talking about when I discuss, you know, looks, maxing and the importance of looks is, you know, you could try your hardest not to acknowledge someone being ugly or good-looking, but at the end of the day, it's a subconscious bias that everyone's going to have, and it's unavoidable, right? So just because I know the exact facial ratios that make someone good-looking or not good-looking, doesn't mean that everyone doesn't instinctually know them already. It makes sense to me, the basic premise of society rewards attractiveness, right? Yes. Correct. It's kind of obvious, right? Uh-huh. Yeah. Do you think it's like a revolutionary concept? Because it's like, you're just saying something that's always existed, right? Right. Yeah. No, I think it's quite logical. And that's why I would say that most of my messaging is so well received, because it seems to me so beyond obvious that you're better looking, you have better treatment in almost every aspect of life, and this is something that's also quite well researched, right? You look at prison-sentencing for good-looking people versus people who are less attractive. It's quite clear that it's a huge advantage in having life. Do you think you beat the case recently because you're a hottie? No comment. No comment. But did you, like, you pumped before you walked into the courthouse? No, I didn't. Pump. Did you wear something slutty so the judge could see? No, fixing my hair in that one mirror, like the curved one, yeah, in the courthouse. I would throw your ass away for life, personally. Yeah. So ugly jail. I said you to ugly jail. I'm just playing, dog. Wait, so you came with your voice, and that's your camera guy? Temporary. Why? You're about to fire him? No, no, no. Why? My other-- what's your name? Come up and say what up to the crowd? Or to the audience? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Come up and say hi. Come up and say hi. Yeah, say name, age, body count. Go ahead. Yeah. Haha. Yeah, yeah. You don't have a body count? I'm your, it's-- So it's 21. 21. And body count, like lower double digits? Lower double digits. Like 10. I don't really count. Lower double digits is a bizarre way to say that. Well, double digits implies like 50s, and that's too high. Yeah. Okay, so what was your body count? I don't count. Do you guys ever run two men's together? No. Not yet. Not yet. One day. Yeah, one day, like a devil's three way with you, and you're in the watch out right now. Okay, sorry. All right. So go on this way. Let's get back into you. I would-- like, because it's been like really fucking fast. You're a cent, right? That's right. Mr. Beast says you're about to be the number one guy. I saw him flip. - Yes, he said that if you were to invest in any content creator who's up and coming, it would be myself. I'm not really too sure what that means, but it sounds like a little bit sinister. - Yeah, maybe a little bit, but. - Did that guy got a Torture's poor people, though, you think? - I don't know too much about that. That's been speculated. - No, I think people just kind of call on to questions, stuff about some of the budgeting, maybe not being graded. - What does that mean, though? - Well, so they're doing the team water thing, right? In Africa, where it's like a charity project. - Yeah, for Africa. - The wells and people were like, it's $40 million, really necessary. And, you know, personally, I have no idea how any of those works. - You cost less for the wells? - And, well, that's what people are speculating. I have no fucking idea, right, honestly. I don't think anyone has any idea how much it costs to, you know, run a water project in Africa. - The interesting thing that you talk about is kind of like how economy that you were presented with at your age, the world that you were promised was it a better future, right? Like, how would you explain that? - So essentially what I always say is, you know, looks maxing is just another version of self-improvement. - Yeah. - And I'm simply stating that in terms of ascending your sexual market value, which means, you know, how valued you are by women, how easily you're gonna succeed in the dating market. It's a lot easier to improve your looks and improve your SMV by that metric than it is to overcome, you know, certain disparities with your finances or improving your status. Because what needs to be accomplished is so much greater than people can ever imagine to have equal results, right? So it's like, let's say you ascend to making even seven figures a year. It sounds like an incredible number, and it is. - When you're a kid, you're like, that's the most money ever. - True. - Real, I mean, especially when you live in big cities. So that's the thing, right? People get to these, like insanely good milestones and then they're expecting these results and they're not coming. - Like getting pussy, you mean? - Well, the fact that the matter is, looks are valued a lot greater in these big cities with how shit the economy is, that's really not getting you as far as you think, you know? - You could just also just move to New York 'cause there's like so many gay guys that there's just more straight women than straight guys. - It's a hack. - Or you could just look max. Have you seen it side fell before? - George Costanza was like on days with 11s. And it's real, that's actually what happens. - I know. - For any of the pop culture references, we are 20 years apart. - No, you don't know, any shows or movies? - Not like anything before like 2015. So like transformers like four. - No. - No. - Like this. - What's your favorite movie? - Favorite movie? - Oh, that's a talent. - Where's Jester? - Movies are kind of Jester in sports. - Sports is, oh yeah, you hate sports. - Yeah, movies I can, you know, put up with every once in a while. - What's the best one? - Let me think. The most enjoyable movie. - Dude, you got a knuckle back to Miami, just come chill with me in the last scenario. - And just watch movies. - Have you seen Moneyball? - I have, that's good. - So us, that movie, so us. Have you seen it? I love it. - Yeah, I like the movie Limitless. - You cut our Limitless style guy. - Yeah. - Is that kind of what, having a stack is like being Limit, Justin Timberlake? - That's kind of-- - Who's the guy in Limitless? - Bradley Cooper. - Yeah, yeah, so it kind of feels that way when you first start taking stimulants. - Yeah, yeah. - That's a little bit. - For me, I just write long emails to people that I haven't talked to in four years. - So you grew up outside the city, Hoboken? - Yes. - And you've been staying with your family? - Yeah, are you close with them? - Yeah, I talk to them a fair bet just online, usually. I haven't seen them in person for about a year or four this week. - You talk to them online, what do you mean? - Like just over the phone. - Oh, that's not the phone, that's not online. - Yeah. You have a sister, your younger sister. - I do. - Are you close with her? - Yeah. - Yeah. - How many years apart? - She is turning 16. - Four years? - Yeah. - Me and my sister are four years. - Okay. - Yeah, we gotta fucking protect our sisters. - Indeed. - Yeah, my sister is my dog. We're like very close. You like Spring Seed? - Who? - Bruce Spring Seed. He's like New Jersey, he's like a rocker. - Dude, I gotta put him on his songs. I gotta put him on his movies. - We gotta movie backs and song backs at some point. - Okay. - The two of us as dogs. - Your parents are also their bodybuilders, is that right? - Back in the day, before I was born, you know. - The competitive, like Mr. Olympia? - No, not that, that's the top of the top competition. - Yeah. - You know, just local stuff, you know. - Yeah, Jersey. - My mom, your mom was. - Yeah, not my dad. - You know the Jack's mom? - Yeah, before I was born. - Whoa, I wonder what it would be like to have a Jack. - What was it like to have a Jack's mom? - I don't know. - You don't know? - Well, your mom was, oh, before you were born. - Yeah, yeah. - You had hot parents? - That's kind of a weird question. - I had a hot mom and a disgusting father. - Yeah. - I'm fine saying it, I did the measurements on their eyes and so on. - Okay. - Yeah. - Did your dad teach you how to work out? - No, I kind of just figured it out on my own 'cause we had a home jam that I would just dick around in when I was growing up and then I got my first jam membership and kind of would just watch, like, you know, various. - Rich Piawba? - Rich, yes. - Yeah, he was a psycho. I loved him. - Yeah, I love Rich too. - Unfortunately, 99% of the shit he was doing is the complete opposite of what the literature suggests. - I can't believe it. I can't believe it. - I can't believe that he was doing that. - Rest in peace, you fucking God. - He was a great guy. But his mentality. - Did he die from steroids or can he die from steroids? - It definitely had a role in his passing, unfortunately, but you can't die from steroids, yes. Just putting a strain on your organs, you know, so when I talk about steroids into testosterone usage, it's, you know, put into the same category as these bodybuilding guys who are dying, you know, prematurely, but it's not a binary thing, right? It's extremely dose-dependent. So when you're talking about TRT or slightly above that, that's not comparable with bodybuilders who are using about, you know, 10 or 20 times the dose. - You're dick and small, or your balls. - Your balls. - Your balls gets balls. - It kind of makes your dick lose bigger, probably. - Correct, yes. (laughter) - It's probably true, yeah. - I should do this, yeah, I have long balls. - How'd it wait, what? - Nothing. - When did you swipe your feet, like 11, probably? - No, 16. - 16? - All right, that's a responsible age. - Yeah. - I thought so. - Yeah, so you got into looks-maxing prior to, to, you know, getting your cheeks, yeah. Was that a motivation, those like message boards? - That was, but, you know, that wasn't necessarily the only thing I was thinking about at the time. It was more just like an objective, this will improve the quality of my life mentality. - Yeah. - And that was just one of the results of that, I guess you could say. - When did you start, like 14? - Yeah. - Okay. - Were you COVID lockdown? - I was. - Yeah, yeah. - Did you start? - Yeah, well, that was when I was a eighth grade and freshman. - This fucking sucks, yeah. - You had to, like, be at home with your parents all the time? - Yeah. - If I could, like, couldn't see my friends every day, I would just fucking suck, yeah. So you got like, you were online a lot during lockdown. - Yeah, yeah, I was definitely on the internet, probably in 14 hours a day. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Video games, whatever. We don't talk about it enough, like, culturally, about how that sucks for kids. - Yeah, I don't really think it was that bad for most people, not gonna lie, especially this generation. I think a lot of people just got to sit on their Xbox all day and not have to do any schoolwork. I don't really think that anyone was too upset by the whole process. - But it probably made it hard to be socialized, right? - Well, I wasn't doing that anyway. - Were you a loader? - Growing up. - Yeah, yeah. Your obsession prior to looks back to it was Nerf guns? - Um, no, that was just one. - What's that all about? - I was one when I was like, you know, eight or nine years old. How many Nerf guns you have? - Not anymore. - Come on, dude. You talk about it, we're all in it. - I said it one time, but that's good research. - Yeah, I know everything about you, Doug. - Wait, did you get obsessed with things growing up? Was that like an aspect of your personal life? - Yeah, that was kind of the point I was trying to make. - Yeah. - You know? - What other things were you obsessed with? - I was pretty obsessed with like GTA V, let's say. - Obviously, far. - I rotted on that for hours a day, like minimum 10 hours, every single day during COVID. So it just be that kind of stuff, just getting super high-perfixated, random shit. - Yeah. - So I think that's pretty normal video games for kids. - Yeah, I guess, but just only playing one thing for-- I have no idea. - I play sports games because I'm a cool-- - Okay. - Yeah, FIFA 2K. - Yeah, I wish I was that cool. (laughing) - I don't trust a guy that does like sports, honestly. You can't trust a guy that does like sports. You can't trust a guy that goes on seven dick appointments a week. Do you have seven dick appointments a week? That would suck. It's a lonely feeling actually being one of those guys. What's that? Nothing? (laughing) Bro, what do you guys think? - Is your camera guy, do you guys, are you roommates? - Yeah. - Yeah? - Yeah. - Where's Brickle? - No, thank God. - Where are you live? - In Miami. - Just no comment. - Oh yeah, I don't want to talk, yeah. - I would say that Brickle is probably the worst place that you could possibly live if you're an influencer. - 'Cause it's all influencers. - It's all wanna be influencers. You wanna stop you first street interview when you're trying to get a coffee in the mall. - Yeah, do one of those things. - Yeah, it's so excessive. - Yeah. - Would you let your girl get a train run, you know, that's what they always say. - Right, yeah, for a million dollars. I'm like, obviously, I would, I'd do it for free. - Yeah, I guess like, what's the genesis behind the boards? Did it grow out of like, in cell and pula shit? Like, is that right? - Yeah. - Did you interact with that kind of shit? - That was before my time. I was kind of when I was born, when it was all conceptualized on the internet. - So the genesis behind it was like, if you're involuntary celibate, you're like, I'm actually not gonna accept this. I'm gonna become a like, piece of ass, and then I'll get girls. - That was the idea behind it. It was more so like identifying. - I was thinking the world was. - I think it was more so just identifying why people were in cell and then it kinda transitioned to, okay, how could we fix this now? - Have you ever been in love? - That's a tough question, you know? I don't know. - It's awesome. It's the ultimate, honestly, it feels great. - Okay. - But it feels crazy. It feels like you were taking crazy pills sometimes. It's like, what are we even doing? - I think you've been in love. I feel like you're capping, that's capped. I can see you on your face. - Why'd you say that? - You're a lover of boys. You don't know, so you thought it could be love. - I have no idea. - Yeah. - Do you think that your career has complicated, like having a stable relationship? - For sure. - You had a girlfriend recently? - Yeah, and did it make it tough? - Yeah, certainly. It's kind of not really possible to do what I do, just 'cause of the hours, like, you know, with all this kind of production-oriented stuff, where you're kind of running a show. It's a little less time-devotion than like the streams. Like, the streaming hours are beyond brutal. And the shit that I do on stream isn't something that most girls would wanna be a part of. - Yeah, like, hoes, like, flour with you. - From brickel style hoes. - Brickel hoes. - Trying to do a stream of reviews, yeah. - Do you ever worry that you'll be like, you'll get so hot that you'll be hotter than your girlfriend? - 'Cause you know it'd be hotter than your girlfriend. - Why? - 'Cause it's like, what, you wanna date? - I don't, you don't. - It's like, typically how it is in modern dating. - Not for me, not at all, dude. She is an idiot. I can't believe she's in a wake-up one day of me. Like, what the hell have I been doing? - Well, yeah, I guess there is an aspect of dating that is, like, courtship, right? Like, it's not sexy if someone is pursuing you, right? Like, it's more sexy if you have a crush on someone and you wanna like, you know, like, be charming and get them to like you. - Right, and women are just outrageously hypergamous. - What is that? - It means that they're trying to date above their looks level to a ridiculous degree. - You gotta move to New York, dude. You see some of the gargoyles with it. Just 11, dude, it's, this is a different world. - Well, that's because there's a lot of people in New York who are like-- - Yay, yay, guys. I was gonna say, money maxers, like, you know, finance, not even. - As a whole, right? - Yeah. - What is true about women is they are hypergamous. They're dating above their looks level. And if they're not, if they're better looking than the guy, it can 99% of the time be attributed to either money or status. - They're way better. - Right. - So TV's an asset. - That's why I don't really understand when people give, like, you know, anecdotes on breaking these rules when it's like, yeah, as a whole, we're looking at a society here, not, you know, where you able to get whether check was harder than you. - I don't know. It's just like, it's, they like it kind of a little bit if we're like a little ugly sometimes. - No. (laughing) I think, yeah, bro, obviously. - Well, you're also a millionaire status. - Billionaire, Billionaire, Billionaire. Oh, wait, I did see someone say that. - Why are they saying Billionaire? - Well, I tweeted that, that I'm a Billionaire. - I don't know, I was like, is that true? - Yeah, I'm a Billionaire, dude. But, you know, as a whole, these rules are true and these are rules that you can kind of-- - I don't think they're true, dude. I think you're making up single rules. - Absolutely are. - No, I don't think so. - I'm telling you, dude, all of my friends, girlfriends are hotter than them. - All right, your friends, Reg. - Steven's roster. - Steven, no, not at all. Back me up, Steven. - And that's another common cope is people just don't know how to properly rate individuals' attractiveness because they'll score women a lot higher because it's like, yeah, exactly. But, when you actually know the objective measurements, it doesn't become about sexual attraction. It's about mathematics and you're able to be a lot more analytical with, you know, rating people. - But what's sexy about math? - Well, it's about figuring out attractiveness on these days. - I don't even know the math on a pair of tits, you know? - Well, it's about the faces. And at the end of the day, you see a girl, she thinks she's hot. It's the same, but we're just trying to identify why. You know, why you have that subconscious instinct, you know, but why? What makes the face good? What makes the face bad? That's the kind of stuff that I'm just explaining to you. - Because I think girls are hot. - Right. - And I was going to warn you for them. - There you go. - I've been warning for them my whole life, dude. Even before I get bussed, you know, I've been warning for them. - Anyway, let's not get carried away. Can you break it down for me? So, what are these measurements? And like, is it crowd sourced? Is it like, the community's kind of determined, like. - They do a lot of stuff on the stuff. - PSO? - Yeah, okay. - So it comes from a bunch of different sources, you know, even something like the mid face ratio tracks back to ancient Greece, but a lot of it is, you know, attractiveness surveys, scientists determining what is the most ideal measurement, right? And you take all these measurements and you come up with a total facial harmony score, and that kind of is able to be engaged on how attractive someone is. And there's other things that play a role, like phenotype, you know, and if you were to extend it to just the full body and height and frame, things like that. So there's a lot that goes into it, but it's all very objective. - And this is kind of something that's like, the community has debated, it's kind of like. - It's not like, that makes it sound like it's just a bunch of autists and forums kind of debating. - No, I'm not saying that. - Well, no, I know I'm saying that. - There's no like guru, there's no like Ross Jeffries. - No, it's not like one guy's opinion. - Yeah. - You know, it's all very well researched. - Do you know Ross Jeffries is? - I don't. - He's like the first pickup artist guy. When we were 15, my friend Tommy was like, "Dude, I'm sick of not fucking, I was like, we all already." And he's like, I downloaded these lectures from Kaza, of this guy, Ross Jeffries. And I was like, what, like you're not gonna get pussy from lectures and he fucked at school like three days later, really at school. Literally, it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. And then he started dating that girl and he saved her in his phone as bitch. - Bitch. - It was rude. Quite rude. So just explain to me what like the PSL kind of like, you know, layman's terms, 'cause I'm like, not very smart, but like. - Well PSL was three. - There's four categories? - Sorry. - It's an eight point scale, right? - Right. - So how's that determined? - So that's just a different rating system that came from the community. And those are just, PSL is three like, look is an oriented forums and, you know, like pick a bar to stack things. So the idea behind it is that there's no such thing as a 10 and the highest rating was an eight. Now it's kind of been skewed to match the desial scale, so it's not completely what it was. - What's the desial scale? Like out of 10? - Out of 10. - So people will kind of just try to like, make it translatable when that was never really the intention. There was a reason there was no nine and 10 included in the scale, you know? So that's kind of just what it comes down to. - What are the three categories? - The three categories of what? - You said there were three standards. - No, it's just three forums. - Oh four? - That's what it's all stands for. - What is it, what is it stand for? - Pick a bar to say, slut hate and look is 'em. - Slut hate? - Yeah. - What do they say? Just fuck girls. - Well that's what the forum was called. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - Who was on the boards? Was it like kids your age? - Now it is, yeah, now it's often people who are a little bit younger. - Yeah. - Are there girls out there? - Sometimes there will be girls who try to like, lark their way into the community. When it's meant to be a male dominated space, or just like a male space in general, because women have just an exponentially easier time living life, and sort of getting with whatever the fuck they want. So, you know, you give them like this whole looks max avenue now to make things even easier. It's just, I don't know, makes the playing board kind of. - But they've been looking back at boxing for a long time now. - Yeah, but not. - Or make up properly. - Not properly. - Yeah. - Wait, correct me if I'm wrong. There's normy for guys. Low to your mid to your high to your normy. - Yes. - And then there's Chad, Turbo Chad, Geeka Chad. - Chad Light Chad. - Chad Light. - Yeah. - What are you? - I don't rate myself. - We're like Geeka, no? - Yeah sure, we're like Geeka, yeah. - People don't understand what it's like for us to be. - It's true. - Yeah. - Is your philosophy that like one can make them self into Chad, you say what, no? - So genetics are gonna play a huge role in everything and what's able to be accomplished. But, you know, anyone can improve. There looks to a pretty significant degree. They're willing to do sort of whatever it takes and go with that mentality. But obviously your base where you start out is gonna determine a lot, you know? So you might looks max your entire life, do everything properly. But if you're someone who just does not have the genetic base to allow for you to be a Chad or anything, you might be a little disappointed. - Yeah. - How do you conceive of yourself prior to like going on this transformation? Like what do you think of that kid? - No, I'd say it's like a very like linear process to looks max, it's not like a, you know, where you leave your cocoon or whatever, like a butterfly or some sort of metamorphosis. It's very slow and steady. So I don't really think you change your view on anything. - Yeah, how'd you not look, Max? Do you think you'd still be a hot guy? You probably wouldn't, though. - I would say that, you know, obviously your genetics are gonna play the biggest role in everything. - But you have it, right? - I don't think I would be as good looking, no. - Not as, but like you'd still be a hot guy. - Ah, it's just, I don't know. - But not as hot. It really is hard to pinpoint exactly how much, you know, some of the different interventions would have played a role or, you know, where I would have got to. - I know you said you wanted to get double job, but you're not gonna do it now. - What's the other job? - I still wanna do it, but there's been a lot of things going on. - What does it do? - Just advances your upper maxilla and your lower mandible. - Do you just get your mouth is like a printout? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's more of the jobs for me. - Turkey, you're gonna Turkey? - Yeah, there's just a lot of complications with travel right now that I'm not gonna get into. - You're on the no-fly list? - No, no, nothing like that. We gotta go to Turkey. - Yeah, yeah. I'll get, I get right a plusty. There you go. - Actually, I like my nose. I used to not like it. - Okay. (all laughing) - I like it. - The other thing was leg breaking? - Yeah, that was kind of just like a thought experiment. I think people didn't really understand what I was getting at was the reason I was talking about sort of the limb, like limb lengthening stuff was just about ROI. And then I kind of started popping off in another area, which was social media, status, money. And I realized that the ROI was not worth it anymore. In terms of like ascending my SMB, I was able to just leverage something else. - Yeah, how tall are you now, six, two? - Yeah. So that's the goal at the end of the day is to maximize SMB. And if you could do so through other areas, you know, go for it. - Yeah, just room. - But at the end of the day, that's gonna be incredibly difficult for someone to have like the status ascension I did where it makes it comparable. - Can I ask you a question? Is it like looks maxi a means of like avoiding, like, it's called gesturing, but like just like a chatting, like, or like flirting with girls. If you're like so hot, you don't have to talk to them. - Yeah, it certainly makes it easier to be a Dalmatian. - It's not talk to girls. Also just about like when I was like a 16, like just being so afraid if a girl doesn't want to kiss me back, like just like wanting to kiss a chicken, like how nauseated you feel at that age. And like, had that been post B2, it probably would have been even scarier, right? - I've never had to. - I'm just saying like, does that make it scarier? Like, does that make dating or like a gender relation, like relating to women's scarier for guys' reach? - No, no. - Me too? - I have never had any of these. - I'm not saying you got me too. No, you're not listening to me. I'm saying that it creates a fear. Kids are having less sex now. - That is true. - Yeah. - Yeah, there's a lot of statistics about this. Young men are, I'm pretty sure, two thirds of young men, 18 through 21, having had sex in six months, so it's, you know, it's quite brutal, yeah. - That's crazy. I guess like, let's go into like your fame, right? Like, it's been rapid. - Correct. What has it been like to become a famous person very quickly? - Well, I don't want to use a term famous, it's just kind of well-known, maybe infamous, even. - Famous. Famous. - Say it, say it with your chest. - No, no, no. - Yeah, hopefully one day. But, you get more famous. - I've kind of been doing social media for a little bit longer than people realize, because I just started streaming and, you know, going super mainstream, but I had been posting and doing content for about a year now. So, which I guess in, you know, grand scheme of things for social media. That's still, you know, relatively short in terms of like career longevity. But, yeah, so the live streaming started in about November. It was when it kind of took off. So, yeah, it's been a quick rise from there, but I don't know, I've been adapting. - What do you attribute it to? - Consistency. And it's just, it's new, it's fresh, it's content. You know, people are doing the same shit all the time on Twitch, you know, and no one gives a fuck anymore. It's the same streams, it's like video games. It's just boring, right? But, I don't watch them. - Exactly, yeah, no. So, and people are realizing that more and more. So, everyone looks for what's new on the internet. - Who's your fan base? Who's the squad? Would you have a name for the stands? - No, not really. - What are they called? - Club gang? - Yeah. - No real name. - Is it, it's a lot of guys, it's like a young man? - Surprisingly, it's actually pretty split down the middle. - Rude. - Yeah, I would say in terms of like my live stream viewership, it would be like mostly men, but I have a lot of female fans, like, you know. - For being hot, yeah. - I don't know, I don't know exactly what-- - Come on, bro, you have a SMV, that's why the bitches wanna come on. - Yeah, I don't know, I think it's just from, from TikTok, like, would be most of the female audience. Like, they're not really interacting with, - These girls right here. - Hell yeah. - Maybe, yeah. (laughs) - TikTok, probably. - I feel bad for you when I saw that clip of the Orlando Asian kid, that, what up, homie? - Yo, you being inside my album? - Yeah, I got you, man. - You're a fan, man. - Yeah, no worries. - Debra, we've been on your ass since the moment you were streaming since November. - Oh hell yeah, dude, good stuff. - You doing? - You doing a stream photo? - Yeah, let's do it, man. - All right, man. Find the cat at three. (beep) Three, two, one. (beep) - Oh my God. - Love you, man. - That kid sucked. - Oh man, that is so annoying when, like, I'll be just trying to talk to girls and in the bar or whatever, but, you know, people wanna spam a million photos and it's like, I get it and I like all the fans, but if you're dropping game on, like, a check, IRL, like, people will come up and, you know, kinda distract you or whatever, yeah, a little bit. But accident, but, you know. - How can you even call yourself the Orlando Asian Mogger? - Well, that guy has clearly mugged no one in his entire life, he's a liar. He should call himself the Orlando Asian liar, perhaps. - Yeah, I'm not really sure if that was like a clip farmer or whatnot, but, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I guess, like, when I found out about you, it's like, I guess you've had like various controversial moments, but like, those of obviously, for me, is like a fucking middle-aged man. Like, those are the times that I guess on my, like, Algo, right, yeah. And do you, is there a pressure there, I guess? Like, to like, controversy max? - Most content creators try to clip form. - Was clip form. Like, just do stupid shit to go viral. Well, a lot of the times, like, yeah, I won't really be thinking too hard when it happens. Yeah, the thing is, all those clipping accounts that just went viral for that kind of shit. None of those words are anything that I even understand myself. Like, it's just people making a brand new shit 'cause they pay clippers based on viewership, so they're just writing dumb shit and like, they'll put filters on your face. - What words are these things? - Like, gesture-gooning. - Gesture-goon. - Doesn't like really mean it. - Do you feel like that's making fun of you a little bit? - Yeah, I would say so. - Yeah. - Folks, I'm going on the road. This weekend, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, everything sold out at the Helium Comedy Club, they added a second show on Thursday, get tickets while they still last. Also, more dates are announced now, Portland, Oregon, March 27th to the 29th, Tampa, Florida, April 7. to the 18th, San Francisco, California, May 29th to the 30th. I'm also going to be at the Netflix to do a joke fest. May 9th, they added a second show at the region of the theater. There is a link in the description for tickets and we'll be adding more shows in more cities later this year. 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What percentage do you think, when you view society, are goreby versus, like, Chad, or like, Becky versus Stacey, while 1% of people are Chad, like, what do you view the world? Yeah. 0.1, maybe? 0.1. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like you occupy that percentage? No, I don't really like to try to categorize my looks. Yeah. I just want to look better. Yeah. It's the message. You aspire to look to do more looks, Max? Yeah. I don't really think the whole rating thing, for some reason, people are goddamn obsessed with figuring out that rating, asking for a rating. Yeah. Dude, just look better. That's all you need to worry about. Yeah. When you look at the beard, do you see the imperfections that you want to correct? Yeah, but it's not like one of those body dysmorphia type of, you know, reactions where I'm just like, can't even leave the house because I like, you know, my mid-face ratio is off by like one millimeter type of thing. And there are people like me. You look good. You know, for your body. There are people like that. I know. Look at those girls. They're fighting out of their chairs right now. So I know what suboptimal about my face, but I don't really let it occupy. What is suboptimal about your face? Well, you know, obviously there's, there's plenty of things, right? You're fired. You know, you're, you're, you're plenty of things. What are you talking about? What's being like, what am I then? I should kill myself? What are you like? You, suboptimal. You, you look incredible. Almost no one has. You look at Superman or something. Well, almost no one has a completely perfect face according to science, right? So you could find things that are flaws on anyone, but you know, some of them will be minor and some people will be extremely deformed. So it's just like, it's the whole thing's a spectrum, you know, but I don't really think about it too much on it, you know. So I guess like, what do you do day to day? Like what's your like kind of rate, a, a, a lot of it is pharmacology, right? So I, like, like, you're using pharmaceuticals, yeah, yeah. So what that kind of look like is, I don't like the endocrine system, which is like your natural testosterone production because just in a modern society, there are so many things that are meant to disrupt this process. So my entire mentality is just don't try to fight it with doing these stupid carnivore diets and wearing like this cotton clothes, it's like just get off the entire thing and use exogenous hormones. Okay. So that's the first thing that I do is, is testosterone. What is that? Ceregincer. Yeah. Yeah. So that's one. The next thing is going to be a GLP1 agonist. What is that? It's, so I use something similar to a zambit called redisuretide. Okay. And that's a peptide that basically, express my appetite, making it difficult to eat. I really think about food too much. And because being lean is about 70% of what you could accomplish in terms of looks maximum. Yeah, really? And then the next thing is, you know, hair loss because 2/3 of men by 20 or 20 years old are experiencing some form of male pattern baldness. So avoiding that is really going to be something that's crucial to maintaining those looks. I agree. So taking what's called a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, testosterone converts into dehydrate testosterone through this one enzyme in your body, so you're blocking that process because DHT is going to be a huge problem for your hair, right, causes hair follicle miniaturization. Would you rather lose your hair or your dick? Because I would say dick person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking, I would look terrible without hair. Right. Looks sick. Exactly. Yeah. But if you go bald, you can go jacked. So you can go Bruce Willis, kind of? No. That just makes you look like one of those crammed red pill gestures. Okay. I think they're gestures too. Yeah. I just like to refer back to the quote, like hair is life, and if you have no hair, you have no life. Confucius. Confucius. No, that's actually Saint Moody. Who's Saint Moody? Saint Moody, just some autists from like the black fill space. Oh, okay. He's not from the Bible. No, no. Okay. Yeah. And then you do it. So you do like a finestorite or whatever. Something similar. Okay. Do you test right? Because the tea makes you go bald faster. Yeah. It gives you acutely the testosterone and its byproduct, the hydro testosterone. Yeah. So you just do those three things? No. I mean, we'll be sitting here for a little while if we go through the whole. Yeah, yeah. What are you doing? I'm in a medical school. Well, I got kicked out of school. Yeah. But whatever. We'll get you back in. I don't want to be a Jewish brother, but you should go to a medical school. That's a horrible idea. Why? You know what? Because I'm already good at helping people doing medical school. I would never go back to school. I'm already doing good enough on social media where I can't even think about the word school in a serious context. I mean, a doctor. You mean a good thing. It's a good job. No. Doctors. But you know all this stuff. Do doctors agree with the stuff you're saying right now? Doctors are a rogue. I'm telling you, listen to this. These people are literally going to school for 10 years accumulating a retarded amount of debt. Retarded. Just to make like, you know, a wage that's not really going to elevate you to a position where you could beat any looks disparity. So it just doesn't really make sense to me. Yeah, but your mom is telling the daughter, like if I'm not a doctor, if you're going to take out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of loans, you might as well invest into surgery rather than going to school. And by the way, you can actually get college loans and use it for surgery so this is a method so I've been I've been telling people yeah you can literally do that so just miss miss appropriating the funds it's really not gonna get you in that much trouble and you'll mock so you'll be able to sort of get out of it okay let's let's do a rapid-fired questions okay it'll be fun you're interviewed by Michael Knowles what do you think of that guys I thought he was very nice okay I'm run I I mocked I mocked when he came on here he's a nice guy whatever he is nice he just tells trans people they should be eradicated he's really nice yeah so that's why I just like I don't like to think about politics because these people get into these manic headspaces over nonsense yeah losers dude why yeah I have Paul politics is on they're fucking which ones their gestures yeah for real I had I had the mayor zorod have you heard of him now he's fired he's pretty far zorod zorod he's sick he's the New York mayor oh shit yeah I'm so far removed yeah yeah fuck man he's a he's a he's got a high sexual market value do you gesture with your chili with your voice you guys can you gesture with guys and can you just not gesture with girls is okay to gesture with the fellows did honestly it's okay to gesture regardless oh my god thank you I mean when I read that gesturing was cope you I forced me to look at the mirror what I was like about you just have to be kind of conscious of the fact that you're gesturing that's like the main distinction that needs to be made because some people gesture and genuinely think it's like game or the right approach like if you just want to be silly and fuck around like that's perfectly fine it's fun to make a girl laugh at a joke though it's fun yeah but it's like that's not really gesture maxing that gesture maxing would be like juggling yeah that are just like maybe self deprecating humor would be like one thing yeah yeah that's like a very gesture maxing to do what do you do for fun it was like what what's dude I'm gonna be done I don't do anything besides stream come on bro you got to have fun sometimes you got to put a movie on with the boys and make jokes about it because it's a bad movie yeah just try it out yo where's the camera guy just do just please just promise me you'll do that with him yeah fuck no why fuck no dude I would read the way I think about it is like when I'm doing anything off camera that's like an activity I'm like I could be sure me this getting paid right now come on dude you can't just make it you got to have this you separate a little bit think about it right there's literally people who do shit like mini golf and bowling and like go and hang out with like go to dinner dates with girls off-stream they're not getting paid yeah like dude doesn't that fuck with you a little bit like there's people who actually do you think that that's what people are you primarily doing or you think dinner with your girl you put on a girl show stream it bro you do face no I don't I don't know I want to I actually like what a private life and I had to learn that dude I want my fucking hourly screaming here's the thing I think that people are a little when I read look at social media I think like people are kind of ignoring the fact that you're 20 right yeah I would say that pretty much every content creator has seemingly got like this treatment for immaturity or like you know people excuse bad behaviors but that's never been applied to me whatsoever what I don't know maybe it's because I just come across as like more mature and when I do like these long form like podcasts a lot of the time so people don't realize my age a lot of the times and I'm also like a figure of authority and in the looks maxing space yeah so they're like okay well we're not gonna give you an easy out on this one but it's fine I don't really you know complain about it what aspects of life would you not stream like take a shit yeah yeah shower getting pussy fucking well I mean if you stream getting having sex you can't do that like actually put it on the camera but I've done it like with the mic on really you're you're rocky you're rocky or what what's it like for a girl having sex with you like one minute and then you have to go to a clinic a few days later you're you you you you hit it you hit it quick yeah bro I got to get back to work I'm this guy yeah you're a little such a legend it's crazy you're such a legend why are girls more slattered about premature ejaculations if a girl prematurely ejaculate it's not like how the best it's sex what it's that girl should be like wow I was incredible to it yeah data it's about my time right it's not about oh so you make yourself bust really fun yeah bro I'm not here to flatter anyone so they just jack yeah yeah yeah that's a good point yeah yeah what is the looks back to seeing you ever do the stranger what's the stranger oh dude I fluffed out people about this one what is it so basically you got to sit on your hand oh yeah yeah classic yeah yeah I was gonna say have you ever done the Tennessee pile driver I kind of want to know what is it it's your you're still being on a wall and it's the force is so big that you smash through the wall okay have you ever done the Darwin the Darwin I'm maybe by accident you put your soft dick in a girl's mouth and then it evolves yeah I've done that one so do you feel like a feet or like an anxiety about staying on top like I asked you this earlier but are people coming for your spot ever no I mean like they're making good content is kind of like the goal at the end of the day and I think I'm pretty captivating based on what's been happening with the numbers so I'm just gonna continue that continuing being myself what about Marlin who's is this Marlin I'm seeing him yeah yeah but he's a hot guy too I don't know that's up to you man yeah I don't fucking look at guy I don't I don't do the math on guy's hotness dude who's the hottest girl the hottest girl ever ever we're gonna go rather you go first I don't know Denise Richards that James Bond movie Dr. Christmas Jones well the old James Bond stuff yeah with Pierce Bros yeah she was an 11 or the movie Wild Things model yeah the thing about that question is like I'll I'll kind of flip flop on the answer a little bit who's you think it's number one I think that bench looks like shit really I saw the clip where you're saying she looks like crap yeah so you baited me to say that she got you see every see the things yeah yeah kind of awesome yeah but it's just hard to get over that face come on pause and she's gonna be shooting your head off about some like political issue you think Sydney sweetie is political people want her to be they want her to be they want you to be too I know bro it's fucking retarded why do people attribute looks maxing the right way they just don't know what it is man so they're kind of you know scrambling to figure out what I'm about and because it's a whole new thing yeah because you got you're up four of as you say naughty words so they think it's right wing yeah that's just like any fringe you know culture on the internet is it's kind of like edgy and you know it not something that you would hear just out and about on a day-to-day basis so yeah it's not necessarily political at all it's just looks but it's self-improvement who's the hottest chick do you just come on tell me hottest chick I think Taylor Hills pretty good just a model yeah come on hmm she's fire and you guys think that Matt Bonner is the hottest guy I said the highest in terms of the objective harmony ratios Matt from the spurs the redhead guy the three-point shooter Matt Bonner let's see let's check she's hot let me see do you do you take that down or no no man not yet just say what up to her just do you know there's a couple more fashion shows maybe really she's a fashion model yeah just say hi or something that's the thing you know you should do respond to a story and say damn bro she's perf and then she'll say question mark and you'll be like I meant to send that to my friend dude she descended though that's what gestures she descended since uh since that photo so she ended she's then descended descended yeah like looks worse I gotta show you some shit dude there's a whole wide world out there outside of male beauty people this you're gonna love it those are nice headphones too check those out you know this track put them all dude not really my style come on can I put you I'll play another track not really you're so you're an idiot okay just I'll teach your wife yeah garden safe dude she says it's this song will change your life, because it does. Does your boy do these songs? - What? - The Carmel Police? - Yeah. - From Invincible. - From what? (laughing) - The show. - What's Invincible? - Oh, you don't know, it's an animated show. - No, I don't watch cartoons, bro. - What the fuck, man? - You don't fuck with this? - No, no, no. (laughing) - You wanna hear a song that I wrote? Tell me if this is good. - Do you want me to be honest? - Yeah, be honest, honestly. - Okay. ♪ Where you're here ♪ ♪ Feelin' small ♪ - Little slow. Keep listening, dude, wait for the hook. ♪ Like a bridge over the trouble of water ♪ - Can I ask you another question? What's your favorite animal? - Dog. - Yeah. - Me, too. - Have a dog. - Me, too. What kind of dog? - I don't know. - I have people. - Hey, when people ask me that question, like, why? - They think it's weird if you don't know what kind of dog you have. - Dude, look at my dog. - And that's another, just like, that's what Normie's interacting. Nice. - Uh-huh. - Yeah, yeah, I got her from the streets. - Normie's interacting is always so silly to me, 'cause they're like, - What, it was like? - Like normal people, 'cause they run into each other and they're like, "Oh, what kind of dog do you have?" It was like, they give a shit about that. - That is, they go midicals. - Yeah. - That's her, so yeah, and I never. - Well, let me see your dog, though. Just be a Normie for a second. Just be normal, maybe, for a second, dude. - All right. - Your dog looks, that's your best friend? - Is that what they say? - I don't know, who's your best friend? This guy? In the back? - He fucked 10 girls. And he said, "Low double digit." (laughing) - Yeah, I can't even find a, I think, in my dog. Like, where do you rank male beauty in like the kind of scale of what's important? Like? - The highest. Like, higher than, like, kindness, or something. - Yeah, really. Why is that? - Well, because these things are going to be perceived according to the physical, right? So, like all the intangible things like, you know, being kind, or, you know, being funny, that's all going to be haloed by your attractiveness. So, there's no point in really valuing them as separate things when they're all kind of interconnected. - Well, like, Mother Teresa, she was a little looker, but she was famous for her kindness, right? Like, she didn't need a baseline attractiveness. She was kind, right? Like, you know, well, nobody gives a shit about Mother Teresa. I'm gonna be honest with you. - People do, no. She's famous, yeah. - Yeah, but like, I think people are probably gonna care more about someone in Hollywood, like, a Brad Pitt figure than they would Mother Teresa. - 'Cause he's hotter than her? - He's probably mocks, yeah. - He mocks, he would mock her, that's for sure. - Yeah. - Since you've maximized your attractiveness, right? The things that I've seen, like, I've found out about you from, are like, things like, like, the car, you know, the thing last week in Arizona, like, those kind of things, I guess, have those, do you perceive those as complicated in your life? Like, you know, like, so it's just like, is the formula of like, maximizing your attractiveness to make everything better? Does that necessarily, maybe, does that complicate it? - Well, I just have an interesting status, I guess you could say, where I'm like an infamous figure. So, you know, where there's a lot of love, and I would say that's 99% of interactions. Those aren't the ones that are going viral on headlines as some one dickhead who is a hater and wants to, you know, do some dumb ass shit, you know what I mean? So that's just what goes viral, but that's not the reality of the situation. - Yeah. - The reality of the situation is, you know, I'm talking about men's issues, and kind of identifying with that. And no one's been a spokesperson for, you know, the struggle in any meaningful way, I would say. There's a lot of-- - You're the first. - Well, there's just a lot of like, disinformation, I guess, would be the way you could put it. Or there's sort of like a key element that's always been missing from the manosphere, and the red pill space, which was that looks are an extremely important thing, and they shouldn't be ignored. So I think young men feel kind of understood by my message, like, you know, by me. - What residue do you think with you men? - Well, because I understand it, right? It's not like I have my head super big, because I'm famous, it's like I kind of blew up on social media not that long ago. So I was right there in the struggle. - Yeah. - You know, I was still working in normal job less than a year ago. - Wage-cuck. - Yeah, it was wage-cucking. - Yeah. - What was your last job working on a restaurant? - Yeah. - If you're close to your sister, right? If someone told her that she was low to your becky or subhuman, whatever, would you want to beat their ass? - Well, that'd be like sort of a cortisol spike. So the expectation for you to do some dumbass shit, and like get into fights all the time, I think it's just a culture that definitely needs to be added like, you know, I'm high class, and I don't do shit like that. - You know, the safest is Michael Dole's fixating on trans people's lives. Like, what is the merit of telling someone that they are nasty? Like, well, yeah, I guess, and I would not really do that unless someone were to be a dickhead to me first, and I think any of the clips where it's just like me, you know, talking to someone in a disrespectful manner, they always cut out the previous part of the interaction where they would just come up and start acting crazy. Like, I'm not. - I imagine so. - Yeah, it's not like I'm going up to people and being like, oh, you're fucking subhuman. - I saw a clip where a girl was like trying to flirt with you, she was like, why do you come say hi? You're like, 'cause you're fucking cheeks look like shit or something. - No, no, no. - You said her, her man-dicular was crappy or something. - Come and be nice to girls, you at least. - I am, I would say. - You should be nice to girls. - I would say I'm, I've, they're cool girls, you know. There's a lot of clips of this, but pretty much every single check I've met in person was like, wow, you're actually a lot nicer. - I think as a thesis, the concept that life is exponentially better for people that are good looking is the most obvious thing in the world and the art just articulate that. And I don't like, to me that just makes sense, right? And that's been what's benefited us in life. That's why we've just, everyone's like, you know, like it's fine, like it's annoying sometimes, right? Like when, you know, just girls are like this every time I, you know, publicly masturbating every time. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but like, but beyond that, what I'm saying is that like, I guess when I was younger, getting obsessed with something was something that losers did, like a cool people and hot people could just be normal, right? And that's the fascinating thing about this is like, it was never a cool thing to be obsessed with anything. And I think that that's what I'm trying to grapple with. You know what I mean? - Yeah, I would not really say that looks maxing is cool. I would say that it's something only-- - But you're the coolest guy. You're the biggest streamer. - Well, I mean, it's more just that there's a lot more our sides of the internet now. And there's a lot, like people are just looking for what's new, what's fresh. - Yeah. - Have you enjoyed this? - Yeah, yeah, no, I thought-- - Dude, I think it's fascinating. And I really hope that I'm not condescending. - No, no, no, no. - Yeah, I don't, I don't get any malicious vibe at all. You know, I would say, you don't make a lie, I already kind of forgot. - It's fine, you don't worry about that. That was me too, yeah, yeah. But it's thrilling to be around me yourself, right? - I'm an awesome, right? - Absolutely. - I feel the same way about you. - I appreciate you having me out, thank you. - Yeah, I feel the same way, but I mean, also, like, you're braided, right? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - You could call me by my real bad attitude. - Okay. - My habit. - My habit? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - My guy. (applause) - Yeah, that was awesome. (applause) (upbeat music)

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Clavicular presents himself as a cultural leader in the "looks maxing" movement, emphasizing self-improvement through physical and aesthetic enhancement.
  2. He advocates for maximizing sexual market value (SMV) through methods like hormone therapy, diet, and facial measurements, arguing it’s more effective than financial or social status gains.
  3. The conversation highlights a broader critique of societal values, suggesting that attractiveness is systematically rewarded and that young men are increasingly adopting male-centric beauty standards.
  4. Clavicular acknowledges controversy in his public persona and the potential for backlash, noting that his rise in popularity stems from provocative content and controversial statements.
  5. A key theme is the critique of traditional education, with Clavicular suggesting that financial debt for college is better invested in self-improvement over academic degrees.
  6. He references the influence of pickup artist culture and figures like Hassan Piker, warning that idealized male beauty standards may be rooted in toxic or extremist ideologies.
  7. The discussion includes humor and satire about dating, body image, and masculinity, often using exaggerated or absurd examples to underscore deeper social trends.
  8. Clavicular downplays the importance of personal relationships, emphasizing content creation and appearance over emotional or romantic connection.

Summary:

Clavicular, a rising social media personality, positions himself as a leading figure in the "looks maxing" movement—a self-improvement ideology focused on enhancing physical appearance to increase sexual market value. He argues that investing in aesthetics is more effective than pursuing traditional education or financial success, especially in a struggling economy where attractiveness offers tangible social and romantic advantages. Drawing on scientific facial ratio studies and self-reported data, he promotes a systematic, almost clinical approach to personal transformation, including hormone therapy, appetite control, and hair loss prevention.

The conversation touches on cultural critiques, such as the influence of pickup artist culture and the rise of hyper-masculine aesthetics, while also acknowledging the controversy and backlash associated with his public persona. Clavicular dismisses emotional connections as secondary to appearance, and he challenges societal norms around masculinity, dating, and success. His views are framed as both personal and cultural, reflecting a broader trend where young men are increasingly seeking self-improvement through appearance rather than traditional paths like education or career.

While he presents his philosophy as logical and research-backed, the discussion remains laced with humor, irony, and self-deprecation, underscoring the performative and often absurd nature of online beauty culture. The conversation concludes with a strong emphasis on self-optimization over conventional life goals, suggesting that in today’s digital age, visibility and physical appeal are paramount.

FAQs

Looks maxing is a self-improvement approach focused on enhancing physical appearance to increase sexual market value and dating success. It's based on the idea that attractiveness directly influences life outcomes, such as social interactions and relationships.

Common techniques include hormone therapy (like testosterone), GLP-1 agonists to suppress appetite, 5-alpha reductase inhibitors to prevent hair loss, and facial measurements to optimize features based on proven attractiveness ratios.

Yes, it's controversial because it involves extreme physical and medical interventions, and some critics view it as promoting body dysmorphia or objectification of appearance. However, proponents argue it's a rational, data-driven method of self-improvement.

Research shows that attractive people receive better treatment in various areas, including lower prison sentences and higher chances of success in dating. The speaker notes that looks can significantly influence social dynamics and personal opportunities.

Yes, the speaker mentions that college loans can technically be used for surgery, suggesting a potential financial pathway for individuals seeking physical enhancements as part of their looks maxing journey.

Mogging refers to outperforming someone else in appearance, often in a competitive way—like being more attractive or successful in the dating market. It’s derived from the term 'alpha male' and is used to describe dominance in physical appeal.

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