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Claude Opus 4.8 is here. Is it as good as they say?

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Claude Opus 4.8 is here. Is it as good as they say?

In this episode of How I AI, Clarevo shares early impressions of Anthropic's newly released Opus 4.8 coding model. The model boasts strong benchmarks—69.2% on Sweetbench Pro—and promises enhanced honesty, long-horizon autonomy, and enterprise readiness. Clarevo tested it on coding and business use cases. For coding, Opus 4.8 excelled at one-shot greenfield tasks, autonomously building a complex prototyping tool in about 20 minutes with solid code quality. However, it struggled with the "last 10%" of work: edge cases, bug fixing, and integration into existing codebases. It frequently hallucinated, over-rotating on hypotheses without grounding in data, and required multiple cycles for simple rebasing tasks. In business strategy tests, Opus 4.8 was less anchored in real data compared to Opus 4.7, producing hand-wavy roadmaps and overweighting small data points. Positively, the model offers improved voice ergonomics—fast, token-efficient, and free of annoying ticks. Clarevo concludes that Opus 4.8 is a good but not mind-blowing model, best suited for greenfield prototyping and one-shot tasks. It requires careful prompting for existing codebases, edge cases, and strategy work, as its confidence often lacks factual validation. The episode also highlights new features like dynamic workflows and effort control in Claude products.

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[MUSIC] Welcome back to How I AI. I'm Clarevo, product leader and AI obsessive here on a mission to help you build better with these new tools. Today we have a very special mini-episode because Anthropic just dropped Opus 4.8. Their latest state of the art coding model. And I got a few hours of early access and I'm here to share my very early thoughts about where this model is intended to perform well, where did a great job and totally impress me and where there's still a little bit further to go. Let's get to it. As you can tell, I am not in my regular How I AI studio and that's because I am so excited to give you my early thoughts on Opus 4.8 and couldn't wait between meetings to share what I thought. So to get started, I want to talk about what this model is, what Anthropic has told us about its benchmarks, performance, and what it's good at. So Anthropic is shipping Opus 4.8. It is supposed to be their step-changed model for agents and there's a couple things they've called out that this model does particularly well. It's supposed to be more honest, a less designed flop, longer horizon autonomy on long running tasks and enterprise ready. So it means it follows its instructions. And they're saying that Sweetbench Pro, they're hitting 69.2%, which is almost 5 points higher than Opus 4.7, almost 10 points higher than GPT 5.5, and 15 points higher than Gemini 3.1. Now, this model is not cheap. It's $5 per input tokens and $25 per million output tokens. And then same as 4.7 effort defaults to high and fast mode can be a lot faster. This is what they say. It's about you're going to read on the blog post. And so on paper, this is a very exciting model. But I want to tell you my personal experience using this model and where I thought it did a really good job. And again, where it did not do a perfect job. And so when I was giving feedback to the team, I said, surprise, surprise, LOL, it's a good coding model. And that when I opened up plot code and asked it to do a fairly complex one shot brand new surface area task, it did a pretty good job. So I asked in cloud code Opus 48 to build a prototyping capability and chat purity. So we make PIDs. I said, let's just go whole hog. Let's compete with the big boys. Let's make an entire prototyping tool. And I gave it some architecture decisions. I wanted to make what platforms I wanted to use. How I wanted it to function. It went through plan and then it autonomously coded for I would say about 20 minutes and shipped it. And when I pushed this live to my preview branch, it worked. And so I would say from a one shot feature, it did quite a good job. The code was right and it followed the architecture I would where it sailed was this last 10%. And this is really going to be my theme of this episode. It does really, really well until it doesn't do well. And I found it did not do well consistently over time with the same types of trouble. So I'm curious is you all get your hands on this model. If you have the same experience I did where it does like really, really well. And then struggles and edge cases and the details. So what it mailed here is it did take the spec. It planned the work. It shipped the feature. But then as soon as I got live and started trying to take it to the next level, the next level, the next level, it really struggled and started to ship bugs. And even more than its inability to finish that last 10% when it was bug hunting. It hallucinated and I am going to tell you I am not seeing a straight up hallucination in a very, very, very long time. But over my experience early testing opus 4.8 both on business use cases as well as coding use cases. It 100% made up things based on hypothesis, not data. And this was really interesting to me. This was on high effort. And so I don't think it was effort or reasoning. There's something about this model where it's really not grounding itself as effectively as I've seen in other models. Again, this was a one shot, but then very specifically propped it up on scoped surface areas for follow ups like I saw a bug in the preview branch. And got these hallucinations. And so this is a really interesting reflection of this bug. I'm going to have to run at it a little bit more to see if this holds over time with coding use cases. But it was kind of the theme of my test here. Okay, this headline is a little dramatic. It says in real code bases, the edges destroy it. This is not opus 4.8. This is just a clawed code work fail here. It doesn't have the screen, the screen shots will have to show you the GitHub for this. But basically what I saw is when I pointed it at existing code, it also struggled to sort of insert itself and understand the edges of where it was supposed to work. So let me give you an example of this. I had a couple branches in flight that I needed to rebase that I needed to bring up to base because we had shipped a big underlying PR and it kind of messed up on the state of the code. And so I asked opus 4.8 to rebase and check these branches for code. And as you can see here, I had to do cycle after cycle of rebase and fixes because it was continuing to ship really edge case bugs into the code. And again, this was my experience. I thought it did a really good job one shot on a surface area. But then when you got into the specifics, it struggled to understand the elevation at which it should be operating. The third getting coding use case that I tried was a fun one, which is I pulled up a clawed code and asked it, just what are some fun things we can one shot with clawed code that my nine year old would think is rad. And I really tried to push it to say make it really interesting. Think about the edges of a gentick coding and aside from the code quality itself, which I struggled with sort of had highs and lows. The other thing I reflected on when I was coding with opus 4.8 is it just wasn't ambitious enough. And so it gave me this awesome prompt, which was build again, then play it yourself by watching the screen and tweaking the difficulty until it's fun for a nine year old. Amazing. This is state of the art coding agent. It's going to cook. Let me show you what it actually shipped. It shipped this, which is like fine. Of course, magic. Like I would have never been able to ship this by myself without a lot of effort. But not pushing the edges of a gentick coding. And even when I said great, let's make it 3D. Let's do something even more fun. It shipped something like this, which again is super cool. I would have never been able to do this. But it's not 10x, agentick coding blow my mind impressive. And so this is where I really struggled with opus 4.8 is I kept saying more, more, do better, do better. And it just wasn't as ambitious as I've seen other models being. So in terms of coding, I think it does a totally serviceable job. I wouldn't say it's a bad at coding. I would just say my experience has been it struggles with the last 10%. It's not exceptional at orienting itself inside existing code bases. And then it's just not that ambitious. Now let's talk about business work. So I also tested opus 4.8 in quad co work. And I tested it on strategy. And I gave it this very broad prompt. And I tested 4.7 versus 4.8. And I basically said based on what you can gather about my last three months, where am I spending my time versus where my priorities should be if I want to 10x my business. I gave it access to all the same business context. And then once it did that analysis, I said, please write me a strategy prompt. And this is where the performance of opus 4.7 versus opus 4.8 really became apparent. Opus 4.7 was very numbers acreage. You can see this table here. I obsecated some of the numbers, but it was very numbers anchored. It was very structured and rooted in real data. While both of these exercises didn't have access to the same data, opus 4.8 had a harder time discovering the relevant data. And it over rotated on small data points and took them as truth as opposed to what I experienced opus 4.7 doing, which is it zoomed out a lot more and put everything in context. Now again, this is mutual one shots. I was basically too shot. It was like analyze my time and then give me a strategy to grow my business. But the difference between these two were very, very high. I then asked it to follow what prompt to build a roadmap. And again, 4.7 very anchored in specifics, very good strategy. In 4.8 was incredibly hand wavy. And in fact, with opus 4.8, it gave me a roadmap. And then I said, we have all this. Did you search through GitHub? Did you look online? And what's really funny again with the hallucination is you see here, no, I didn't. This is a common thing that I had opus 4.8 say to me, no, I didn't search GitHub. No, I didn't actually look up that data. No, I didn't actually validate that bug. Now again, this was early access. So another 100% sure if this is prompting error, if it's the shape of the model, if it's the harness that needs to be tuned, but consistently got this experience of the model hallucinating or over rotating on a hypothesis. It had as opposed to being anchored in true code truth or in true business truth. And so I honestly, we continue to reach for opus 4.7, which I think didn't exceptional job on strategy versus 4.8, which I think was a lot more hand wavy. And just over-weightated on things I didn't think was important. Now, that being said, what positively impressed me? Voice is great. Claude is not an annoying girlfriend is what I would say. It was easy to read. It didn't have slot tells. It was token efficient. It felt like it was talking enough, but not too much. And it was fast. Now I got early access. Who knows what the production latency is, but with fast mode, I anticipate you'll have this fast experience. So I think the ergonomics were very nice. Now, if we zoom out and I say, The writing was very good and then Opus 47 wrote the slide. I don't know if I love this slide that much. So hopefully, for eight, would have done her job with the voice and ergonomics. But I do think the experience of using the model was very nice. It had no complaints. It was not annoying. It did not have ticks and tells just the outputs were not exactly what I wanted. So here's my theory and this is what I saw. It's just overtuned and has kind of narrow vision. So it's smart. It's fast. It's efficient. But it's overly confident, absent true validation. That's what I would want you to walk away from in my review of Opus 48. It really latches on to specific data points, specific code point. It draws conclusions for them and then says, this must be truth. And so it sort of misses the forest for trees, both encoding and in strategy. And this might be part of its efficiency. Like I thought it was super efficient, but does that come at the cost of accuracy? And what I'd rather a long running sort of relentless coding model, really going deep and validating its own opinion before shipping. So I didn't quite experience. I would say this more honest and long horizon autonomy. I did see it was fast. I did find it was enjoyable to work with. Think it followed instructions well, but it stayed too much in scope, if that makes sense, because it didn't zoom out and contextualize the work that it's doing. So my verdict-- I mean, all these models are great. They're all magic. So let's be real. Every model is magic. The fact that I could do any of this in just a couple hours is pretty genius. But I would use it for greenfield prototypes. It's really impressive on a one shot. I think its design is better. It got rid of the italics emphasis words, which were driving me crazy from quad design. It's good at tool use. It's fast. It's not annoying. Where I would test it and really figure out the right prompting strategy and the right harness strategy is with existing code bases in branches with real edge case, with strategy work that requires you to think about numbers. And again, you can probably prompt this, but I would just think about that prompting. And I would just double check where it's really confident, because my experience was its confidence was not rooted in fact. Again, I'm really excited to see this model come out. There's a couple more features as well in Cloud Code, as well as Cloud AI and Codework. In Cloud Code, you now have dynamic workflows, which can let you spin off hundreds of parallel subagents. And in Cloud AI and Codework, you now can set effort control from low to max, which you were able to do in Cloud Code. So these are all really interesting shifts in both the harness and the model. I would say it's a good model. It's not the most amazing model. It didn't blow my mind. It has some quirks to it, which I think you need to be aware of. But I'm definitely going to keep testing it because with the benchmarks, with the work that's gone into the product, I think it's a model worth keeping your eye on. So that's it. That's my quick review of Opus 4.8 that just came out today from Anthropic. I'd love to hear your experience with it, especially how it does encoding, how it doesn't design, and whether or not it gives you strategy anchored in reality. Thanks for joining How I AI. Thanks so much for watching. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Anthropic released Opus 4.8, a new state-of-the-art coding model with improved benchmarks (69.2% on Sweetbench Pro), higher honesty, longer autonomy, and enterprise readiness.
  2. The model excels at one-shot greenfield tasks, building complex features autonomously (e.g., a prototyping tool) with good code quality, speed, and efficient token use.
  3. It struggles with the "last 10%" of tasks—edge cases, bug fixing, and integrating into existing codebases—often hallucinating or over-rotating on hypotheses without proper validation.
  4. In business strategy tests, Opus 4.8 was less data-anchored than Opus 4.7, focusing on small data points and producing hand-wavy roadmaps, while 4.7 offered more context-aware, numbers-driven insights.
  5. The model's voice and ergonomics are improved (no annoying ticks, fast, token-efficient), but it lacks ambition in creative coding tasks and fails to zoom out for broader context.
  6. Verdict

Summary:

8 coding model. 2% on Sweetbench Pro—and promises enhanced honesty, long-horizon autonomy, and enterprise readiness. Clarevo tested it on coding and business use cases.

8 excelled at one-shot greenfield tasks, autonomously building a complex prototyping tool in about 20 minutes with solid code quality. However, it struggled with the "last 10%" of work: edge cases, bug fixing, and integration into existing codebases. It frequently hallucinated, over-rotating on hypotheses without grounding in data, and required multiple cycles for simple rebasing tasks.

7, producing hand-wavy roadmaps and overweighting small data points. Positively, the model offers improved voice ergonomics—fast, token-efficient, and free of annoying ticks. 8 is a good but not mind-blowing model, best suited for greenfield prototyping and one-shot tasks.

It requires careful prompting for existing codebases, edge cases, and strategy work, as its confidence often lacks factual validation. The episode also highlights new features like dynamic workflows and effort control in Claude products.

FAQs

Opus 4.8 is the latest state-of-the-art coding model from Anthropic, designed for agents with improved honesty, longer autonomy, and enterprise readiness.

On Sweetbench Pro, Opus 4.8 scores 69.2%, almost 5 points higher than Opus 4.7, nearly 10 points higher than GPT 5.5, and 15 points higher than Gemini 3.1.

Opus 4.8 costs $5 per million input tokens and $25 per million output tokens, with effort defaulting to high and a faster fast mode available.

It excels at greenfield prototypes and one-shot tasks, has a pleasant voice, is token-efficient, fast, and follows instructions well without annoying quirks.

It struggles with the last 10% of tasks, hallucinates based on hypotheses rather than data, over-rotates on small data points, and lacks ambition in complex coding or strategy work.

It was hand-wavy and over-weighted minor data points, while Opus 4.7 provided more anchored, numbers-driven, and contextualized strategy outputs.

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