Circular Business Innovation – Vanessa Butani (Volvo Cars) & Thomas Hörnfeldt (SSAB)

Välkommen till podden och presentation av gästerna Hej och välkommen to the podcast om cirkulär affärs innovation tycker jag. Det är väl mi Mattias Axelsson, en karl Eneroth vi gör intresserad in explorering of leader's and pioneer stuut of create new Circle of business Model så viss episod we will speak English. Vi hade ju preulistor haft two International giance on the air show today SSABM Volvo cars han will talk about of they colaborate on the Circle of business Model. I Nordic to arkiv fossil free booth stil production and production of cars. Så en on från Volvo behöver Vanessa botani en från SSCBR Thomas herrnfeldt. Välkommen to the podcast. Talare 2 Tanke så mycket. Talare 1 Så starten mot juvanessa word you like to Britt discruby roll att Volvo car sen har vi ju in walle in the colabbration with's AB. 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Talare 2 Och BP sustainability at SS i withes very much abot embracing what breath doing through out the compady interns of transformia or sales to a Large thye fossal freestad compad i Sverige high on organ boo från med Technology customer offering and and and Corporate citysen shipon review. Andss minns att this IS är cross foctional thing that goes on there out there are the com betyts very match integrated inne ur Corporate strategy so invery matcher. Mask är vill trin to keep this to gether and en and of the things där en väldigt maching gastein my sove i is to deepen be the Corporation and partners hit we have with with company like woolboard for exempel we will working tycker jag inte för long long time and and to deep and that colaboration alltså in the Trumps a sustainability is vi har in polat tur och sen en Volvo cars was one of the First of Calle fossad free partners där bepartner of we arebe to gett the mig the. 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Jag tänker tachon som The things there so great about what watore doing here and för me är this dess i de really proving that wee can close the loop wee can körde up the processes work vi get the quality that wi meid ry and wey doal of this woul continue inte deliver a fantastic product to war coustomer's it there love that there go feel good about with no complies is right Volvo were know for sofety were for systemabilling wetical this boxes who we alltså take th exceppint sy. Super exciting. Talare 2 Green mora men wey offensiv at the more demand the customer's we have the happy a we are we are of pitty good that is to ager and anding a spiringpartner på cars bring out o are best game to be onest. Talare 1 Så thenk you for this introduction superintering. Kan du ju take oss och byta in till whaty action do in toyal it the create thes to closter loop. Talare 3 Så. Men vi bycle, the near zero mission Steel and westel scrap sitt welkorts. 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En en stil is the World most Circle material we recycle more stile levererar den basically allther and material's combind för att and thaty something deras being john a gungon för long time and the offcut från Volvo has always been recycle. There is not that's won of the great things, things weits Steve that you cane dou that it out Louis and quality that when with now close the loop to gether så that with exakt det är oe stil bag. Vi kan rese that and produce aga again exakt lite the same stil great. Vår Volvo cars så the offats där cane från Volvo we real and's and back of Volvo and wirre doing that that minst life Vanessa that be keep the value of the scrap as hyas postled på exakt what the can ital composition and the elia and content is inte stilla vilket back vi kan just that you make exact eller same stil of greder again and reuse i alla unga elementen of the componce of the stil and the best possible way. En en och så ja, men relative cloese with i chut of geographically we it can you see transporten så alltså this is the very much a sustainable Circle loop inne ways. Talare 3 Rights de hela is. Back up the pointen med inte do it's electro fireflad right winnet go beyondar and stil is the big a star won of the Biggest sorts of set to mission then of production process och with of be twentyfive procent av alla material relate of mission's Rights och this ha's a big impact what why wino adress this thes this this and relief reduce the mission's Therese there. Talare 2 Nu är fil compote tossias där societremark that peer kilo the carbon footprint of stil is very Louise basic blod the glass and cardbour that as and law of carbon footprint that stil i just at the car con sists av en olof of stil that make that there the main colbrist för att där också minns det att by replacing conventional steed with Steve with exakt le the Saint performance buit out the corpande food Britt är så är det på nästa. Relativ easyway of gather greid of your carbon footbint because är ju gett is the same material just with out the fossans Youtube Youtube unicans. Då blir det fanidig drev i. Talare 3 Alltså, sugger du buuth this right that and a isad Wester, what is the customer of value? And this and we areable to makes of carl's even better without compromising anding Therese this fanthic. Talare 2 Relevant att vi kan också för långt being corporateing in using bättre stear in carst the strongger the stilista vi kan deliver till Volvo the less stiliste ni det with reduceras the carbon footprint persey bad så märks det viet of lighter moureffis and increeze's rangea and and's orone so this is very much of Windows wing situation. Vikten av förtroende, samarbete och externa drivkrafter Så var det start this colaboration boit the current loop that your the scriping. Talare 3 Weid the agreement lastyer and this will knowstart coming in to area sisty visual be loungeed on geni two First så, that's super exiting that this is coming out in the carest tho. We will see study now and in carst going four this wall. Talare 2 Volvo cars has being gate in stil från woody's snowways SAB business nighting twenty seven wenher First carl roamout of the Volvo Factory, goffenburgar. In twent it twenty one we design the you partnership for fasad free delivery and now we the new carl being launch wee take this to to the ex level. Talare 1 Vanessa keneger där för Volvos perspective that disfos freeze, part of the offring to the assa consumers. Talare 3 Offering right isat were moving to all Electric me seh that is a thater product inzomer ways not only for the Consumer hugget inom, aquiat and ride. A better card drive och så betty's social the social benefit's of quider outsied less air polultional this coh things and and win meet can make the overall food print of the farlour is well that has and even bigger impact of course. Talare 1 Vi får what to look of herre du what opportunesity storyse och for you wony develop thes collaboration fortsher. Talare 2 More of the sale i is ise borg avancer by thingbyt i thing that's thy obligast Choice with increeze the i The persedages of neur zero emission steal wee can make the car even lite and stronger to gether weekend air coreration and the gandy som that's being going on gång för lång tid, men and we are work konstantly. Driving over combinded offering forward and en liten hashflone in the begining. Mordin Malin Volvo is the happy are we are and thathing that ison opportunity for bo för oss the kid Challenge i other tobiy oned. Talare 3 Is lång relation there hade so import it it tics time to buil Trust in the relationship to under stand it. It chather and with that Trust and we alltså Challenge it of thir righten wee can pris it charter and can make it churher thel of the uncohrable. Because wee can vi kan handla in we the vi kan bulle då nära thing. That's superimporting here to. Talare 2 Det går så var det typital forartners hit det här som en lastbil eller long time like vis one eas that you have soom and interction's a so mean it different levels. We have technical people talking to technical teple we have kommersial disctions of cous we have sustainability talking toitch chather and edmitivt bli alls of the Communication på en ji eats importen forts av oss to conveader message to the World of this is how it do things to galler this is how we introver offering this is how the future is go to looklike and and and we are are are the for front tougever. Talare 3 And it is importen wee och så lägger siging wor looking you there the day to day techtical soling the problems meaking sour your know can we make thes process work can weeket the quality then that wee meet and at the same time looking foreher beyont weere wee going next and en and it meeting see in we are do are individual pats allline så att vi kan continue develop what we are thather. Talare 1 It's super intressant, begruse wort you descriving here Myers har du the importence av ur sever nu alltså sover la la la la la la la la la la la laers och collaboration beteende company sover time and thereby creating the pre conditions for compati advantage for booff parties byce of the niting you toyother in the closed col laboration toy. That's James lact the essence of read tove sheving of Circle of business models is i slack har really hardcore colaboration on going be twoens social different types of layers. Vengeneers to business, people etcetera i Nordin macle's happen. Talare 3 Det som heaher right withen ligger tryda walk the walk and sustinabilt i this is a really good exempel of Howard withing isedp and we know we kan inte soomer weed therep partnership's of cross the value chin to meet bappen. Talare 2 Ja, men att vi ändå över dig ur objective is to make wolve cars as competive's possible. That that is our commentar goes. Talare 1 Good, thank you wellher zoom out och with you Hasse vart har du sort ofey externa driver making this collaboration of Circle of business Model to ge so import in for your comphonness. Talare 2 Jag tänkte där are multipel drivers we have i min from powerpoint UB ingen stil company we have CO two trading in Europe witch obviously's one big and Center for the carbonizing weet think that d cohbanan ising is away for us to incrisa ur competitivness and ultimatly likviditet the competityness of volbocars att det är end of the day. En and all so behink that there is a Consumer demand force and i think i ifall loka the bigers alltså Steve maker here, the ode motive sector and i specialy passager cars i's religilit a primac som where development is moving the fast det right no like Vanessa gott inredde of tale piper mis chans with is more then ninety procent av of the life cycle emissance of the car is of cours priority one at whing your taken thos nigh procent out of the equation och vi ska the rest becomse 100 %. Och Oliver sade den en en född av värdet connected tussil en en verkar säga vilken relativismple way of be carmanizing så så this is coarting på den fores. 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Enligen push by regulation insom cases verkligen pedative positions. Talare 2 And like tal to with early we are boots relative lars and visible company's booth in the Swedish context. Ba då så in European and by doing disutegring oher player sin and oher Industries that what used to be call the Hardy bait sector asley can bee carbaniz and i ting this is achly driveing to development in Society in general alltså i. Onödigt southitub it's pumpu maybee jag tänker vi har something to conribit in the general real things alltså. Talare 1 Isonel like you creating a role Model bott for you, a companys internalley by with this case och youcch colboration burd som for externa lectors to seed is acual a possible och this till colborations. Strategier för att övervinna utmaningar och skala upp It's very inspiring to here you discrbit vad undercurios har du ju sin sorts of the current p rps glumy attitue tover's sustainability this wee on's on on the political tover not elleast det har sitt effekt you har you look long term för this typ of colaboration and. You are conducing. Talare 2 Från powerpoint det är ju i dans and effekt over long term strategy strategy at all this is importent tour's it th is very much port of overs strategy i thilup globaly efilok crost geographys andy cross Industries vi kan se the say movement tours de kabanization every wear that movement may behaving differentis and you have you area different stages in the development that the tendencye and the. Rection is the same everce of this is go to happle and there is goet to happen globally yo's eas go to happen. A cross Industries is just den aw time so long term there is no differce watshoe ever. Talare 3 Writeher and it think what wee me there is for för exempel för European union Rights dep up thy administren activity's making stort the ecae material in circulation inne EU right, så that wee have the infrastruktur on to support that again enablingarnas to minst in a hyre value of matterials for lone the perioder of time så vi inte supporten med SWL and why we are of push in togader the show well this and work andy. And i woney comeback to again i for the customer this is this is a greating. Talare 2 Jag fick att det inte bli perfectly franc the glumy piction israher outside the feeled of of of of sustainability per say the trade situation in the World for exempel is i sin manyways moving in the rone Direction, right? No where World becoming incasing the regionalized and and and were small export dependent camping in the small export dependent country vår rein utfor free tradebyt alltså ha the be fair trade and and wee can. Att vi hade något av subsidied imports kan vi inte europeit. Wich makes thes Little tricker from from pure Corporate Financial på intervju. Talare 1 Lookinge här och based orter desriving being mot forulict to see happen i sorts of extonely on the Market on the po the politial to for you to babys of skate what you to company's are in toather. Talare 2 Allt fortsätter lärt sig. Vad ska bout scaling then then wonting? That's very parent to as very much may är screut thing roller th and European är inställbe have very good permitting processes is in this country att Therese wars to take a long teme. Där är sant, fick beto change och need to learn to work in parallell rod of and sequvention. The standard lead time for är power lining in this country is får team years and we are Trump you d cab niss is country in five years are something sco the get here webbin all most managering so far ba elektricity Supply is the bigest bottle nect that vi haven that is youtu to permanenting processes är det fortsatt klipp? Det är sju be där. Thaty have to be hand in i morse and way. Talare 3 Ja and i think live new you can of poin and the thingger to areas like it's geting this håll ekcho system to works of that. It makes it easier to understand i The value of the materials and making wee can kep thals materials till in loopride har in circulation with thes. Talare 1 You. Me it's snart som neas your rider to great is type of and lars gay Industrial columboration alls your and down with lots av prestige lise of investment's of great importence for the competite advantages for bo of company. Du kan ju ge oss kära lite bitter. Vårt you have experience as the major herdles that you have overcom so far. Talare 3 So stry what war doing bott is making shirt it we make this this close loop, keep that sin level of quality right and keep that keep that processes isame and in and it works in are business cent Rights a that thor is being good Tobias toe to to to work throughd with SSAB and prover att vi kan do i ett sådant is it were we real your andners this importens steps there and prove. Innerprocess ad long away men vi Thomas Johanna kommer inte lite morgon när war you are going iswell. Talare 2 Jag kan säga att for rust wore moving had fritty quickly. I think internay we have this under control. 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What quid wee because that's on Mobile och säga okej mebo vi kan gå all the wait there, take a First step what do to day and när ni startar to to mohers soft and. Talare 1 A right. Talare 2 Direktion. The barn i gay i i really with light do to under line this this value chain thinking your thing wee här customers like Volvo är även hjälpas på pressual hour suppliers of certen. Men sour alla el men sour what ever in i norre to revus the combine core wood footred fore exempel, så it it it svery match är value chain that isot under step by step att alltså working as and hole man i Times with is and aher i think strong hole that be have World this a country here that w haver strong tradition in this country how working to gether of networking beteen company's and a wone you det är something that wore benifiting from är spe. Cialin av en things of shifting rader quickly. Talare 1 Så vi som är så building of the sorts of unffa advantage thatu mark havin the ekosystem you of working worya så svårt of doiring to take the initiativ internaly en start dunk things ja alltså så här the div in to do i form, men jag skulle bege mig person of the questins is as leader sin Large company watwood your advice. Leader så är så tror du jag menar mark bestodle on the person level do are to do it aw of far go fast du re mode. War is mye position is a leader in the this och. Det är ju lagt att köra som vad vi gör för att en basedone your experience. Talare 3 It is really so much about trusting the team Rights team and it is are team and working cross the funktions in yo organisation the somany greed ideas och just diar inte så yes OK trial that's do your it and not just det. Go all in vad legiti se what weekendu, how kan vi get right and and and en en like working with s is ABT lite pullat Little time in toy to this. Truster process, även i know en en. And again, you is have to lou again, the Kings andliga clichébad ifit d's and work then you land driv that is and work mey we are thrie this is way and many ties a work because we have fantastic people lover there working west. Talare 2 Thomas, jag är ju Green and i thinget importyt the point outreg is no contradition be twen sustainability and competness it in general att svaras weir concer it svery match about resource efisions in in boft case wee har be inworking with making things things tronger and lighter and wore productive sin night in seveny for and thast we try to outline thoset var the this may be interms of corpen food footprint and's Youtube emissions in Edition. Djur bottomline, red News och whatever case med i p what i thinkisen podden är. 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Framtida utmaningar och tillämpning av cirkulära principer Vanessa ann Thomas thank you very much på in the klassy talking to you area provade in sig here above wat SSAB en Volvo cars of currently doing the thor general intressing insights för olov alls about how to boh thing strategicly and form av management perspektiv är verklighet things strunwald cooms to creative in Circle business models så thenk you ver much. Israel thing that you buged to add. Talare 2 Babybarns sidenote that i whosin that everybody's buying in to this vision at the same time of cours when we are read building of planted drasticy alltså vill du ingen North and eurobritna you canot hjälpbat heviing people asking what is happing with my job? What is the future ging tooklike for me going to have ruphle lite say number of en prejeason the future but thy will be do and different jobs and therebare börjar spänningen av fot vi have och vi kollar i sig be acadeby. Ingaging people in discushns and and and talking about is and and and coined of creaing the future to gether and that's may vet inte. På sig till människan. Talare 1 Greight. Talare 3 Ja alltså är det min the road to electrification is bumpy we se that that right we seger the gro's in the Market butt geting wir isnart bea straight line and withers haft maiskture that we are committeed for that and en en commitit vision of were we are to. Talare 1 Axel Thomas, jag hade post inför julingen beyond what you down weid Volvo cars det blir intressant to hearios zoom out and looking air har vi you can you there in sig från The colaboration with wolvo for outher of colaboration's with outher company's and ader con text. 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