CIA Spy John Kiriakou was 100% RIGHT about Pardon Corruptions

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About how, in his part in Odyssey, he went to a dinner in D.C. I forget where it was. But he was told that he was going to be, like, meeting with Rudy Giuliani, who's friends with Trump. And that they'd be able to get a pardon. And at some point, Giuliani went up to go to the bathroom. And one of the other, like, fixers told him what the price was. And the price. There was already going to be a price. I forget what it was. The numbers. I can't remember them right now. But John did talk about them. And John was like, well, that's fucking shady. But whatever. And then, basically, they, like, quadrupled the price right there. He was like, fuck that. I'm not doing this. No. No. You take your pardon and shove it up your ass. And so, he did not get a pardon there. But it's very telling, by the way, that when you see all the people Trump's pardoning, which may be actually, Steve, can you just real quick. Ask for highlights of people Trump has pardoned who were very shady. I don't know. Something like that. That he probably shouldn't pardon. When you look at all the pardons that Trump is doing throughout his presidency, and then you think about John Kiriakou, who's now, like, you know, a worldwide phenomenon, by the way. All the kids like him. You know. The fact that John has had so many prominent people publicly. Asked the president for years, by the way, for a pardon. And the fact that so many people write letters on behalf of John to get a pardon. I have a source that said that they get more letters at the White House for a pardon for John Kiriakou than anyone else that is up for a pardon or asking for a pardon by a lot. Like, by a lot. So, you know, this is not a new thing. And yet, he's. He's never been able to get one. Because he's never paid a pardon broker or, and we're going to talk about exactly that report in a minute, or gone in there and tried to get one through financial means, if you will. You know, he told you about the one time and he said, fuck that. Whereas all these other people, they're like, yeah, I want my pardon. Let me pay for it. I just don't understand how that is not blatantly illegal. Like, I don't know how there's not a codified law. Yeah. That you can't pay lobbyists to go lobby for a pardon. Like, that's, that's insane. That's it. Oh, yeah. Remember this one? Juan Orlando Hernandez, former president of Honduras. So he was serving 45 years for conspiring to bring 400 tons of Coke into the U. It's a little Coke. Just a little Coke. It's a little Coke, Joey Deef. Trump, Trump tied the pardon to his endorsement of a candidate in Honduras' election. Lawmakers in both parties objected, saying it underprivileged. They undercut the administration's own campaign against drug trafficking. This one was, like, right after Venezuela, too. And, like, obviously, we've named the cartels terrorist organizations. And so they lock up a foreign leader who was clearly running as, like, a cocaine kingpin in the Honduras. 400 tons. 400 tons. That's a little bit. Just a tiny bit. That's not a Pablo Pledg-Gabar amount, Joey Deef, but it's, it'll do, right? And then you go pardon a guy like this. I agree with what both parties said. It completely undercuts your message. He also, remember when he did the Binance founder? Yeah. What's his name? Z or whatever? Changpeng Zhao. He pleaded guilty to money laundering violations. The Binance paid a $4.3 billion penalty. So, the pardon came a week after Don Jr. introduced a Zhao lobbyist to Trump. So, they're not even hiding it. The president's son introduced a lobbyist to Trump, and he pardoned him. And this is the one that Trump commented after. He's like, yeah, I was actually totally unfamiliar with him when he did the pardon. Like, he didn't even, he really didn't even know who the guy was and what it is. You know, so he's done many of these. There's other guys who have been convicted of all kinds of fraud and shit for, and I've seen numbers that are in the tens of millions, and he just pardons them. That's a rock. And yet he won't pardon John Kiriakou. It's interesting. It's very, very interesting. I also do know that, and this is one thing I really respect about John. I know that a rather prominent person called John. This is a while back. This is during Trump admin one, but it's a while back. A rather prominent person called John and said, don't shoot the messenger. But I'm just telling you this. You're talking about a lot of shit online. There's a couple things that if you just don't talk about it, you're probably going to get your pardon. And to John's credit, I can verify he has not stopped talking about those things in any way. In fact, he just took the decibels and went and turned away the fuck up after that. And so he's got principles, but I've been burying the lead on the actual pardon brokers. Joey Deeth has the video up. This was from the 60 Minutes Report. Where they interviewed two guys who couldn't possibly be more stereotypical stand-ins for exactly what you think these people look like. Let's go ahead. How come you quoted 300,000 to Amon Covino and 600,000 to Boozy? I'll break this down. Because he's Boozy. A big part of those factors is other criminal history. If somebody's got a rap sheet a mile long. Obviously, it's going to be much harder for us to make the case that they should receive a pardon. You see his lapel? Yeah. Nice dual flag of America and Israel. Playing the part. Go ahead. So I said that rap sheet continues after the fact. And so we look at the cases. We decide how difficult they're going to be. How much in the way of resources they're going to require. And how much time, from a standpoint of opportunity cost, of other clients we can't take. So you were telling the Covinos that part of the $300,000 would go to buy tickets to fundraising events at Mar-a-Lago or Bedminster that the president attended. Not necessarily, no. But you said it. No, what we said is there's expenses involved, including travel to events, which we may or may not otherwise attend. Tomato, tomato. The bottom line is that there's expenses involved. But of course, the lion's share of this is we're paid and we make money. There's nothing wrong with that. There's no cost. There's no political contributions, as we said many times. And so there's really, I don't understand the issue. Well, I guess the issue is, is it in some way pay to play? No. There's no pay to play. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You paid nearly a million dollars for what? For our advocacy and our services. For us? And our strategery. A lot of this is. Our strategery. A million dollars. Sounds like an enormous amount of money. I would encourage you to look up the lobbying fees of our competitors in all directions. Oh, they got. It's a whole industry. Study our top five competitors. This is the business, the industry. A million dollars. Advocacy requires years of knowledge and training and working in government and. All right. So let me walk you through this. He knows a guy who knows a guy. He gets a little fucking pass to go into the White House. He walks back there and says, hey, how you doing? What do you think? Can we get this? Can we get this? Can we get this pardon done? Can we get it? Here's my list. Give me three out of ten. At least I could say I hit three out of ten. That's the advocacy he's talking about. Like, this isn't, like, that hard. Everyone has a sheet of crimes that they did or whatever. Some are going to be worse than others. And you got to convince them of, like, look, he did community service. Look, he apologized for it or whatever. Look, feel bad for him because of X, Y, or Z. Like, a fucking eighth grader could probably do enough to be able to get the point across if he needed to. But these. These people are out here charging a million dollars. I love how Leslie Stahl said that, by the way. She's like, a million dollars. Jesus Christ. You know, you're charging a million dollars to walk in there and ask for a pardon. And then when they get asked, like, you know, how is this not pay to play? They're like, no, no, murder. What murder? What murder? You know, they then literally use $5 words to explain $10 words to explain exactly what they did. how it's pay to play. it's like it's not pay to play it's playing to pay that's it you see what this is you see what this is it's just jedi mind tricks joey thief this is this is boozy sir he made the 2010 hit album incarcerated and we would love if you gave him a pardon and why did you charge him double well he's black well that's that's that's how you know that's what these guys are 100% like it's a rapper he's got stacks back there and they're like you double it up they said you you mentioned your mother's jewish and he's like no no she's not okay well yeah yeah for for double the fee it's your lucky day but like also how much hubris do you have to have to be those two guys and genuinely agree to do this interview well it kind of comes back to the whole reading the room thing yeah like i just i just think they're like listen who gives a fuck people are gonna they're gonna say what they gotta say i i gotta i got that tea time tomorrow that's all i care about all right so i'm gonna do 60 minutes on the way yeah fuck it fucking leslie stall fuck these fuck these disgusting scum that should be washing my car they should be cleaning my fucking shoes these pieces of shit oh hi nice to meet you names whatever that's that's how it is that's it just the way they talk too like i i don't know anyone like personally yeah as a friend in any capacity who talks that way that's not a real person talking yeah that's just straight bullshit it's it is it is a corporate lawyerist fucking k street yep whatever that what i don't know what that accent is i'm unfamiliar it's just reptile talk yeah reptile talk without you know i'm joking but like that's just reptile talk they could be reptiles yeah you never know you never know you never know probably not but yeah maybe that's like what they think the accent you know advocacy is so much training so much years of experience that's right so much it's just like hearing them talk like that it's just like hey go fuck yourself yes yes i i could not agree more one of if not the most common dms i get on instagram are many of you asking me what my favorite books are well today's your lucky day because if you use the link in my description below to join my newsletter i'm going to give you my top 10 book recommendations right now also if you'd like to join my clipping community for a chance to make money producing content from the show you can do so via the discord link in my description below and finally you can join my patreon for early uncensored releases of the full episodes via the patreon link in my description below as always please take one second to hit that subscribe button if you haven't already i really appreciate that also the like button's a big help and you can join my newsletter via the link in the description below but what's really important is that you're not only going to be a part of the show but you're really nice is that at least the administration is getting richer so you know howard letnick's can we google that as well joey d if i'll get to our boy jr kushner in a second but howard letnick's net worth has increased a lot in trump term two i just want to get the specific amount right so that i don't give any stolen or false valor to howard so howard letnick and his family's net worth has more than doubled to approximately seven point three billion dollars since he joined president donald trump's cabinet as commerce secretary so joey d since january 2025 it is now october 2027 or 2026 effectively okay i'm trying to skip a year right there oh my god we're getting far but that would mean that we are in less than two years you have watched a guy make over 3.7 billion dollars in that time span he made 100 returns on his net worth nice i want to know who his broker is i would in fact if you are howard letnick's broker joey d definitely would like to hire you and i'm going to consider it for sure because again that's what you do when you take the commerce secretary role right you're doing commerce which means you're doing biz and you get to decide who wins and then you also make sure you get to do the investments insider trading along the way well it's it's like playing the banker when you're playing monopoly like yes i'm gonna make sure everyone's on their p's and q's but i might slip a couple 20s 50s out of the pile as i'm dealing and taking care of all the you know my constituents i'm gonna take my paste that's it you know just a little big from the top just a little paste on the back end which is this is hilarious because again that's why they're not reading the room that's why they're not reading the room that's why none of these people are reading the room and this is the part i do think about a lot because it's not just the administration like we started the conversation from the last episode just talking about like people in general you know in in elite circles of billions of dollars to kylie jenner whoever it may be all these people going out of their way to show you their opulence and what they do and show you their corruption and the marriage between the corporate elite and the political elite and then you know the entertainment elite in some cases as well it's like the obviousness of it is at an all-time high with this presidential administration but all these guys are doing this and i keep hearing from some people about people getting second passports you know that's what we were talking about at the end of last episode with jared kushner and people you know buying islands we've talked about that with jared kushner specifically and some other people and some people who maybe know some things openly hoarding assets and hitting the red button on trying to increase their investments and squeeze out that's what it feels like to me joey d like they're squeezing out whatever last bit they can from the from you know the toothpaste to get it on the toothbrush before something happens and of course and i don't love thinking like this but when i see a pattern like this so blatantly happening over what's been a fairly long period of time right now over the past couple years especially you know dual passports buying land sucking up money from everyone insider trading just out in the open across the board across political parties across donor parties and all that i do ask myself what do they know what do they know that you and i don't because i i'd love to i'd love to find out and my head does go back to my conversation with doug rushkoff a little bit i can't help that yeah i think a simon too the other day now kind of with just like the transition of the the financial industrial complex like it's not it might not be that these people are like oh yeah america's about to disappear and never exist and fail yada yada it's more so like hey hey hey this ain't gonna be the center of the universe anymore and we're just gonna slowly start hedging our bets making sure we're all ready to go because i don't know if it was him or another guest we had recently but just you know we're we're not around these people either like the way like a king used to have to like walk through the town square and could get tomatoes thrown at him like it's just so much harder like the disconnect between you know the people and the the you know the ones we serve or what have you 100 but like you know none of these people back in the day they just get ran through the streets and guillotined yeah that's why they don't read the room now because it's like they're just so far removed they don't have to worry they're so far removed and people are controlled enough that they feel confident and comfortable to be able to do it with impunity yeah we're talking about kimberly guilford on a second well even like the ai videos of like this xi jinping dinner like and again they could be bots but like i just saw like there's just so many replies that are like the opposite of us they're like like yeah like this admin like like like it's just if you are if these are real people a lot of them aren't like yeah i i pray to god they're not because a lot of them are not straight to the glue factory i'm sorry yeah it's it's like there's no if you are sitting at home in your shitty house that you're underwater in your mortgage at and you're looking at that going this is awesome acting like you get to be there with them when they would escort you off the premises so you would be 10 miles from the premises you'd be escorted off like yesterday's trash literally if you tried to do that literally like i mean god help you if you're actually that person but yeah the the bot activity across the spectrum especially on x is absurd and you remember the numbers when remember when elon was buying and he was trying to back out because the he thought that the numbers shared on bots were actually way worse than what they told him it was already bad i don't remember what they were but it was like an insane insane number yeah i don't know i mean i just think that if anyone thinks this is cool you're a huge dumb ass and that's that's just the nicest way to put it i love you i agree i do wonder what they're doing with this money though like rich people do some interesting things and that's what they're doing with this money like rich people do some interesting things as we well know with money, like the whole like put money money through fine art and some of that stuff like they find ways to make the most money and then use loopholes because they got a lot of resources to be able to figure it out that limit their taxes and increase their gains the tale as old as time but i'd love to know with all this hoarding going on when you see 600 million dollars here two billion dollars there whatever where that's going let's go to gaza no i'm dead ass i'm like that is not even a joke like this is the type of shit that like they're going to go and start building resorts in gaza and you'll see the fucking kushners going back a huge development project yeah of shopping and luxury hotels let's take it a second layer though too i want to know how much of it in in the immediate term they are moving completely out of something that has to be done and i don't know how much of it they are moving completely out of something that has to do or is based upon u.s dollars yeah that's what i want to know because that would give you yeah a big answer as to what they think but like doug rushkoff was talking about you know these billionaires talking about the event yeah the event so for people who didn't see that episode i think that was number 450 and who didn't hear me talk about it afterwards just as a refresher doug when it's time to scale your business it's time for shopify get everything you need to grow the way you want like all the way stack more sales with the best converting checkout on the planet track your cha-chings from every 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talk to about these things to try to evaluate the trends and to his credit for about six seven years now he's been coming public about this meeting that he had in 2017 out west he was paid to do a speaking engagement and so he goes out there and he And to his surprise, when he walked into the room where he was going to be doing it, it was not a full crowd of people, but it was five billionaires. And he recognized some of them, but they weren't, these are not, I'm not allowed to say who one of them was that I did guess who it was off camera. But these are not like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, stuff like that. These are very more nondescript billionaires. And so what these guys, nondescript billionaires, I'm sorry. What these guys were saying is they all had notebooks out and they were nonchalantly, matter-of-factly referring to this thing called the event. And it was a foregone conclusion. It was like, yo, is this going to happen? It wasn't like that. It was like, no, this is happening, so we got to prepare. And the event could have been anything. Like they were saying it could be some sort of disaster with the climate. It could be some sort of AI. It could be some sort of pandemic, whatever. But something's happening. It's going to happen in the next 15, 20 years. And we're building our bunkers because we want to be prepared when the population is, you know, just totally undercut. And you wonder, like when you see all this open hoarding, Joey Thief, if I knew shit was coming and a lot of people who would criticize me weren't even going to be around to criticize me if that happened, I wouldn't give a fuck if they saw it either. Yeah. Right? Yeah, literally. Like, and that's a real doomer, not nice thing to think about. And I don't think that's happening. But like, I can't sit here and completely rule it out when I see all these patterns playing out at the same time. Yeah, I don't know. I just, I do heavily believe that these people just don't really care. And that's why they operate the way they do. They just, we've reached a point now of like no return. Like, it's like full immunity. And it's not even just Trump admin. It's everyone within this whole machine. Yeah, look at all the pardons that Biden did on the way out the door for all his people as well, which set a dangerous precedent. I said it when they were going after Trump for political lawfare, even during his first administration. That was a hard red line for me because, and I want to be careful how I say this. Yeah. I don't, in a perfect world especially, no one should be above the law or whatever. But I could see that some of the things in that case that they were going after Trump on were bullshit, right? Now you could go after a million things and no one's going after him, which is interesting. But I could see that it was political lawfare. And the minute that that happens, you set precedent, which then makes the other side then say, when the shoe's on our foot, we're going to do this step in. And so then, you know, they went after Trump during, in between the two administrations. And so then, you know, they went after Trump during the two administrations like crazy, which I think really helped put him in office. Like that's the. Yeah. That's what I wonder if it was just part of the game. Go ahead. By design. Could be. I mean, we're, we, stories are the, that is the backbone of our fucking country and our, in our world. And they made, they made a great story out of the whole thing. And he was kicked to the ground. He was beaten down. Got the mugshot. Got shot at. Got shot at and assassination attempt. That I haven't thought about once in the past, like three months, you know, like, yeah, it's the perfect story. The perfect comeback. You get all these people who, who treat them like it's their first uncle or their own father. And it's just, it's perfect. It is the perfect design to just roll in this fucking tomfoolery that goes unchecked and unscathed. I think it's very reasonable posit you got right there. Yeah, for sure. I think it more and more. Could be. Either way. Publicly, like at what you look at, it sets precedent. Yeah. So now you see it going, you know, pendulum swinging. Yeah. And they're going to keep doing that every time, which means they're also going to accept the fact that part of business is that, you know, you take care of your own soldiers on the way out the door. Yeah. You pardon people and stuff, which then makes the bar for wanting to fuck things up on the way there a lot lower. Cause you're like, well, we could just clean it up later. I'll get a pardon. Yeah. I'll just get it. But I'll just. It sounds part of my whole family and shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that's, you know, now you got a hundred Biden doing like podcast tours everywhere. Yeah. You know, if you don't think that's going to be the same thing with this one, with, with the Trump admin, I mean, I got a fucking bridge to sell you. Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah. It's just when I, when I see them all, like, I agree with you, D that they, they've passed the point of not giving a fuck. I just want to know why I don't. I would love the simple answer to be, it's just all hubris, which maybe it is, maybe that is the simple answer. And they just are genuinely demons who don't care. Yeah. Very possible. And that seems to be where you're at. Joey, the, I wonder if like the back five, 10% play though is actually, you know, probability is actually, there's, there's some shit going on. Yeah. And we're going to find out about it later when it's too late. I think the answer's in the middle of that. Maybe. I think it's like, they don't give a shit, but they also. I want to know that like, oh, Havana, that's going to be, you know, like. That's right. Not Havana. Yeah. What's happening with Havana? I haven't heard about that in a few months. I don't know. I saw that we're going to be making some moves on Cuba though, the other day. But they've been saying that now for like a year. I'm not saying it's not going to happen. Don't put anything past these guys. Yeah. I mean, Nick Shirley hit boots on the ground and he got everyone ready to roll, but now they haven't been doing nothing about it. That's right. So, but Cuba and US will make a deal. That's per Trump. That's Trump's prediction. That's what he's saying? Yeah. That's Reuters yesterday too. Oh, so he's looking for a dealio rather than an invasion. Yeah. But we were doing rolling blackouts on them for a while with their power grid and stuff. I mean, they've been getting it for sure. We definitely have not let that just sit. Well, Jared Kushner's getting a lot richer too, which again, he was going to be leaving political life. I think we've said that 40 million times. I just want to remind people once again, he was going to be leaving political life at the end of Trump administration one. Yet here we are, failed negotiator and at least he's getting wealthy along the way. Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has increased his net worth by over 220%. So he has more than tripled his net worth. Not bad. The biggest percentage increase among Forbes top 100 wealth, top 400 wealthiest Americans. His value has increased to $16.7 billion. Billion dollars since 2025. We need 300 for a movie, Joey D. Like, that is just such horse shit. It's crazy. he's on the top 400 list dude what a legend i can't think of matt of of anything that he's done in business that has added significant value anywhere so his real estate investments like the famous one what was it 555 park avenue in new york was underwater it was a disaster and he's done a couple things in jersey city but i'm sorry you're not getting worth 16.7 billion in jersey city like what his what what has he built what has he done that represents any value to people let alone a value of 16.7 billion dollars in his pocket yeah i feel that way about a bunch of these people i agree i'm like i don't even know what you do i think i think point being i think he's just completely failed upward which means the game is rigged for him which is not news to any of us obviously to be clear but kind of interesting it's also nice though that in the middle of a war our secretary of war is a great investor as well you see that yeah even pete yeah yeah hit that article real fast oh pete this is from swamp watch they pointed this out from cnbc pete hegsess broker attempted to make defense investments before iran war according to the financial times i didn't know this hegsess broker at banking giant morgan stanley contacted blackrock jesus christ in february about making a multi-million dollar investment in the ishares defense industrials active etf he's like buy all of them we're going to war the investment discussed by hegsess broker ultimately did not go ahead that's nice he pulled out he pulled out he so he went into the stall with the hooker he had not he had not paid her yet and then before his pants were all the way down he said you know what i thought better of this i'm a moral man man of god i'm a man of god that's right the pentagon chief spokesman sean parnell dismissed the report on x calling it entirely false and fabricated well let's get the details of the report and well you can decide for yourself a broker for u.s defense secretary p hegsess sought to make a large investment in major defense companies in the lead-up to the iran war according to the financial times the pentagon has dismissed the report financial times reported tuesday the hegsess broker at banking giant morgan stanley contacted blackrock in february about making a multi-million dollar investment in ishares defense industrials active etf the etf which has about 3.1 billion dollars in assets counts companies such as rtx formerly known as raytheon lockheed martin and northrop grumman among its largest holdings blackrock data showed the defense industrials active etf has lost 12.4 percent over the past month around the time the war in iran started according to lseg data the financial times also said the investment discussed by hegsess broker ultimately did not go ahead because the fund was not yet available for morgan stanley oh so it just wasn't available yet they're like hit us up when it is and we'll do some extra new attacks it is unclear whether the broker found another defense related investment do we have like when they do the publicly available financials on these guys you get their holdings from the past year do we get the for like the secretary of war the timing of his trades like is there going to be a time where we can look at that obviously this one he didn't pull the trigger on but we'll be able to see specifically like oh he pulled his broker pulled the trigger on x y and z on february 25th or on march 24th i'd love to know that for the cabinet role like that because people should be digging through that like crazy joey d is looking for it and we got that kim guilfoyle story coming in a minute she's a real gem you get like summary details it says i don't know like how i think what what does that actually mean yes you can view summary details of pete hagg says financial transactions and holding through his public government ethics disclosures according to cnbc his two 2025 annual financial disclosure released in september 2026 reports at least 3.1 million in combined cash retirement investments and bitcoin for him and his wife government ethics filings report assets and trades in y dollar ranges rather than exact amounts there you go so you get a range the filing shows a single bank account holding more than 1 million and bitcoin holdings valued between 16 000 and 65 000 according to courts the disclosure documents are an extensive portfolio reshuffle in early 2025 stock sales and then hegseth unloaded shares of defense contractors martin and northrup grumman alongside tech stocks like apple and amazon these individual stock sales were followed by purchases of broad exchange oh okay you see what he did there he was unloading the individual companies to say look i ain't got i ain't got a personal relationship with any of these but i'll buy the etf that just has all of them we'll hedge our bets a little bit perfect yeah that's then that is that is pretty perfect but listen i mean he's prepping for the holy war that's what he's doing you know and and and this is this is exactly what you want your secretary of war doing you want him making sure you get social media contact content of him with a bunch of recruits or i guess in this case people who are already in the military giving a speech in the bleachers like it's fucking rudy about the holy war let's let's run it from secretary war px this is actually our first stop in what uh you see up on the screen right there which we're calling the send me tour the send me tour you know your book of isaiah book of isaiah chapter six verse eight assuming they're all the lord said yeah who will i send isaiah says lord i'm here send me send me and if you think about it across the 250 years of our country i know you got 150 years of this great court here over a hundred and fifty years of this court and 250 years of the country there have been men and women who raised their right hand and they said send me send me to go fight the redcoats send me to go fight the communists send me to go fight the islamists and you are saying send me to go fight whatever threats threaten our nation for the next 250 years okay let's put it out there is something so so gross about injecting religion on on a bunch of trainees some of which probably don't subscribe to at least that religion there's something so absurd about doing that and then specifically about making sure you get the camera angles and cuts to be able to put it on social media and brag about it while we're in the middle of a very unnecessary war that's breaking every campaign promise that they have you know i i just again like this is a different kind of like in your face joey d it's a different it's it's it's a different chapter and verse the pun intended of like let them eat cake yeah i mean that makes me want to throw up yeah he's such a bum too he is bum pete like they hired the fox news guy to run the military and we wonder why we have some issues it's kind of interesting yeah i mean they just need they just need some better optics on like some better cultural uh gets you know the youngsters aren't rocking with that if you the fucking milk dud like that you played yourself well played yourself yeah yeah i think that's well said but there there was a story that dropped this week about kimberly guilfoyle from the wall street journal and it's it's very extensive so before we yeah perfect thief so before we get to the story i'm going to give you a roundup of like one of the many details that was that was in here but kimberly guilfoyle if you don't remember was donald trump jr's fiancee and prior to that she was on the five at fox news and prior to that she was married believe it or not to california governor gavin newsom before he was governor and at least publicly she has opposite politics of him that was always kind of interesting to me but you know she started getting romantically involved with donald trump jr during the first trump administration and they were engaged and in 2024 they were still engaged she was speaking at the republican national convention when trump was running again and then very quietly their engagement was called off and she was she was given what what any good was going to be father-in-law would give the scorned lover of his son she was given the ambassador to greek ship oh wow right yeah i mean that's what you do uh listen i'm sorry my son ain't got no use for you no more but you know what does greece they got used for you we need you here get in the game you're gonna you're gonna go out to santorini you're gonna find some fucking sexy young greek guy to sweat all over you yeah and you're gonna forget about my son in five minutes more on that in a second it sounds like she has wow but yeah here we yeah we're gonna get to that but you know it what it didn't do is it did not what's the word i'm looking for d if it's a morning recording it's a little slower but didn't lighten the blow i mean what no no no it it did not unstrengthen her resolve to represent the long dick of the law and by long dick of the law i mean represent the trump family around the world in ways that you know are kind of interesting so from this report the u.s ambassador to greece kimberly guilfoyle and this is roman shremetta on twitter giving you the the rundown here the u.s ambassador to greece kimberly guilfoyle a close trump ally and former fiance of donald trump jr admitted that the united states helped bring down governments that stood in its way i this is the first i'm hearing about this joey i didn't know we did i didn't know that either i was completely unaware we would never do this is very anti-american over clean cut again i appreciate her saying these things out loud because you know it's just revealing the things in the shadows we already knew were true anyway during a private dinner in athens which apparently wasn't that private while discussing the collapse of romania's government guilfoyle said quote we can do this to any country we want we can do it here too better watch your fucking frappe there stavros yeah the greek energy minister pushed back saying the united states cannot simply replace a government elected by the people like fuck we can't guilfoyle insisted that they have already done this in romania on march 31st and by the way the i believe the wall street journal got a video of this actual meeting later like you can see it happening on march 31st guilfoyle met privately in bucharest with senior romanian social democratic officials the discussion included the vertical gas corridor and energy cooperation it's always always about the natural resources joy baby energy weeks later the social democrats joined the pro-russian aur party and the social democrats joined the pro-russian aur party and the social democrats joined the pro-russian aur party and the social democrats joined the pro-russian aur party in a no confidence vote that brought down prime minister illy bellojan's 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didn't it's like two weeks to flatten the curve type shit hundred percent so they were already planning ahead because they're focused on energy alternatives and ways that they can help cushion the blow of their poor foreign policy decisions but it's it's the way that this bitch is running around saying that that i'm under no illusion that american officials forever have talked like this to foreign countries saying listen here buddy you think you're in the five families you're not even you're not even a fucking soldier at the bottom of a shitty regime in tampa right like i have no doubt that they have talked like this forever but the lack of discretion she is using to do it and the symbolism of her also being the former fox news lady who was fucking the president's son and is now running around gallivanting across greece and apparently working on eastern european energy deals again what's this time number 12 today joey deep poor optics yeah poor optics yeah she's also like you know no offense to you miss but you're a nobody all right you're a nobody you can't be going to the dinners and talking like this unless like you're the fucking like like you're a nobody in this grand scheme and you're out there talking like this at the dinners you got fucking nerve toots i would you wouldn't be in my family i'll tell you that that's right that's right she'd she'd be maury she's like she's like no she's like the dude well i forgot the character's name who's buying a bunch of shit and he buy he gets his wife the code and good fellas and he's just that's right you know and he's like what the fuck's your problem like that's the type of shit she would be doing i told you take it back take it back take it back take it back she had a lot of work done joey deep yeah well i mean i think botox is her friend for sure yeah well i don't know if it's her friend but it's definitely a little parasite they definitely collaborate they definitely collaborate for good or bad yeah it's a good thing i think it's a good thing you'd be the judge look at that bar next to that though we can do this to any country we want we can do it here too thanks for letting us know i appreciate it but joey deep i did say that it appears that maybe young kimberly has found her squeeze you see this from the wsj we're gonna read the beginning of this story this is actually very very well written and entertaining yeah together yeah so the mystery man shadowing kimberly guilfoyle as she pushes deals across europe christos marifatsos works as an energy lobbyist while also closely advising the u.s ambassador to greece what are the chances that joey deep an energy advisor in greece she's spending a lot of time with while she's over there and she's meeting with the romanians about colluding against their current government she's meeting with the leftist leftists about colluding against their current government uh about what over what uh energy all right let's go down so this is from rebecca bauhaus dana mattioli joe parkinson and drew hinshaw over at the wsj kimberly guilfoyle was a long way from mar-a-lago the u.s ambassador to greece donald trump jr's former fiance was shuttling back and forth to bulgaria's capital on a mission this spring the trump administration wanted allies on europe's eastern edge to buy billions of dollars of american natural gas if they're going to buy natural gas joey defa want to buy an american buying ours there was just one thing the bulgarian government she told people should deal with a greek construction firm called actor group a newcomer to the gas business that had teamed up with the greek state-backed energy company to bring in liquefied natural gas from the u.s there is no doubt that this is kind of an official position kind there is no doubt that this is kind of an official position of the u.s government said a person familiar with the talks sitting beside the 57 year old ambassador in an audience with the bulgarian government she told people that the 57-year-old ambassador in an audience with the bulgarian president was a 39-year-old named christos marifatos he has attended so many of her meetings that some foreign officials mistook him for for her chief of staff in fact he is a top lobbyist for actor what are the chances of that joey def she's pushing this company yeah while the dude next to her who she's probably fucking pure spec i don't know i haven't seen any tapes yet i'd make the bet but i'd make the bet right and he just so happens to be lobbying for that energy company while they're trying to make these energy deals yeah it's just just classic biz classic so he's a top lobbyist for actor whose ceo had flown guilfoyle to the country on a private jet why is it always the private jet it's always somehow these people are getting something over the other people by flying them in a private jet it's like um it's like international waters you know that's right the conflict there's there's always the complication joey def has never flown me in his private jet i just won't put that on the record no i haven't he is not not yet i wouldn't accept it yeah if i got it yeah you wouldn't i know i know you actually know me well yeah i don't mind waiting in those lines yeah you'll wait any you'll wait all right a one-time prosecutor who morphed into a mega icon guilfoyle is parlaying her ambassadorship degrees into one of the trump administration's most important diplomatic roles the former fox news coast has crisscrossed the balkans to help europe wean itself from russian energy via vertical grass gas corridor meant to receive uslng in greece and pipe it towards ukraine and piping it all right but she had puzzled government officials across the region with her persistent promotion of a specific greek company and her extensive efforts to involve marifatos a neophyte in both diplomacy and energy listen you got to learn somehow you got everyone's got to start somewhere so he's starting on energy deals in the middle of the war with russia and ukraine his prior experience includes co-founding a washington dc area produce distributor that's on brand and working in businesses ranging from real estate consulting to creating the ultimate immersive experience of the acropolis in imax 3d so the imax acropolis guy who's fucking carrying your produce through the streets of dc to get his green card is now lobbed being right next to the ambassador to Greece with a bunch of other countries, which I haven't asked question yet but i don't know how normal this is for like the ambassador to greece to be dealing with a bunch of other european nations in like a diplomatic role like that maybe that's very normal he's trying to put them on but like this who's she putting on right here the imax acropolis guy these days the maryland raised marifatos is frequently seen at guilfoyle's side acting as her unofficial gatekeeper and joining her for meetings at her ambassadorial residence and with government officials in countries around the region a highly unusual move for a private citizen several people who have met with mr marifatos and the ambassador including government officials said he made no mention of his ties to actor yeah we won't talk about that okay you won't bring up actor we do that outside no phones all right at a conference earlier this month in thessalonica greece where officials from nine countries gathered to discuss their products progress on the vertical corridor a wall street journal reporter waiting outside watched marifatos and guilfoyle arrive in the back of a black bmw at the head of the u.s convoy marifatos entered the city's met hotel through a separate entrance away from photographers which you gotta do joey d if you want to discreet you go through the back door so you can go upstairs and fuck right yep yeah yeah so it's i mean i'm just saying pure spec it's kind of what it looks like but again they're not hiding these kinds of things they're not even taking the precautions of checking to see if there's people videoing on camera outside the restaurant while they're doing this stuff they're doing it in the open they're doing it out in the open and there's a part of you that has to appreciate that and all the while you know you have you've had trump like kicking out the news networks and then to the credit of all the other news networks as well like including fox news and after he banned CNN and a few other places, they all took out their reporters as well and said, no, no, no, no, this is not going to fly. Because again, that's dictatorial regime type stuff. Even Biden, even fucking Biden made sure Peter Doocy from Fox News was getting questions every time he was in there. Even Trump won back in the first administration. He'd rip into Acosta all the time, but he'd go back and forth with Jim Acosta from CNN. And now he's just like, you know what? Get him out. Get him out. You can't have that. It's so bad. It's so bad that Hillary Clinton has weighed in on this. You see this, Joey, Dave? No. Hillary Clinton was appalled by this. It's in that link down below the paragraphs there. She was appalled that Donald Trump would ever do this to the free press. If we can go down for one second, kicking out the free press is what fragile authoritarians do, not an American president. I agree with you, Hillary Clinton. Here's the problem. Can we go back to that first tweet you had, Joey, Dave? This is from when Clinton was in charge of the State Department, you know, working in the White House. Clinton's State Department was getting pressure from President Obama and his White House inner circle, as well as heads of state internationally to try and cut off Julian Assange's delivery of the cables. And if that effort failed, then to forge a strategy to minimize the administration's public embarrassment over the contents of the cables, obviously referring to WikiLeaks. Hence Clinton's early morning November meeting of state's top brass who floated various proposals to stop, slow, or spin the WikiLeaks contamination. That is when a frustrated Clinton, sources said, at some point blurted out a controversial query. Can't we just drone this guy? You could all be so sad. Moral of the story, everyone, birds of the same feather. They all do the same things. They all, you know, again, Trump's just being very blatant about it, saying, yeah, we're literally going to kick him out of the White House press pool. But this is what they do. Which Julian Assange is out of jail now, which is nice. He's having a kid, too. He posted about that. Do we have that? Yeah. Congratulations to Julian Assange and his girl. This new life is thanks to everyone who fought for my freedom. That's from Julian on Twitter. What a wild odyssey that guy went through. Being holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy for years, you know, basically walking down a few hallways and that's it. And then he gets arrested and they throw him in a hellhole for more years. And now he's out. Is he still, like, is he free? Is he right now? I have no idea. He's free, but I don't think, I still think he can't come to the U.S. Not that he's from here, but I'm pretty sure he couldn't just come here because there's, like, some pending charges, which, again, is wild. He's in Australia. Yeah, he's in Australia. It's wild that any member of the press would have, like, pending charges in America for doing their job, for reporting on things. Being a member of the materials that you're given now if those sources like technically broke a law or whatever that's a different story that's on the sources that's not on the journalist to do that the journalist is doing their job and by the way sometimes those sources i think are doing very much the right thing when you look at edward snowden and stuff like that we've talked about that a million times but like you can talk about someone breaking the law then you can look at all the laws that were being broken and not adhered to and ask yourself which was worse and i would argue what was being broken by the administration trampling upon people's constitutional rights was way worse but you know the guy john assange still technically i guess couldn't come here and joey d pulled this up it's it is an interesting thought because it it actually is almost this simple just from like a how could america have somewhat won with trump so meaning half the country didn't vote for him half the country voted for him right how could america have been in a position that even if half the country didn't vote for him and didn't like him and couldn't wait for him to leave they could at least look up and say not everything is the worst thing ever so this is from be at being libertarian in an alternate timeline trump takes a license a liking to thomas massey lobbies for him to replace mike johnson as speaker of the house the epstein criminals are in jail bb is fending for himself doge is codified the department of education doesn't exist farmers are happy and the gop wins in 2026 interesting list certainly some things on there that people could across the spectrum get behind maybe a couple things other people wouldn't as much but like pretty good stuff and these would be rooting out corruption it would be holding to account justice powerful people who have done the worst types of things with epstein and and people around him it would be taking care of by the way the farmers that like donald trump relied on to help win the fucking election for him you know who have been completely forgotten about in washington dc forever and are the backbone not just literally of our like economy they're they're the backbone of the food getting on our fucking table you know and we wouldn't be entangled in in foreign wars that were promises that he had made that was the big thing he's like you get camera you get camera you get iran and you get trump you get iran yeah so sounds like we were losing either way you saw right through this thief yeah because i'm like the epstein criminals are in jail then what the hell is he doing in the picture what's he doing in the picture but uh now there's been a lot going on in ai that we got to talk about and we'll be doing that over the next few episodes i imagine so when i say that maybe that means like three of the next six it may not be directly in order i gotta watch myself with that but edward snowden who we were talking about i don't think this was on camera deep but you and i were talking a month or two ago about how little we get to hear from him publicly now you know as opposed to like in 2019 2020 2021 you're you were hearing from him a lot yeah and you haven't heard from him as much but he's been coming out seemingly of late and spitting some bars so under that anthropic section you see that first link yeah so this is edward snowden calling for the arrest and imprisonment of sam altman you may recall so this is at health ranger writing this so he's referring to himself you may recall i called for the arrest of dario amadei from anthropic last week on alex jones's show they both are admitting to conducting criminal cyber attacks even bragging about it why are they walking three free so let's run this from edward snowden and see what he said here pretty blatantly about sam altman who owns the liability there and of course naturally they would say the government owns the liability because you're never going to successfully uh sue the government for this they should eat it uh but maybe that doesn't work anymore because maybe they are an agent of government and i don't know where we're ever going to see standing to sue on this but we should and people in this room i think are frankly going to be called upon in the course of their careers in the course of their studies in the course of whatever you do to conduct tend with these kind of issues? Where are we going to draw a line? Because an algorithm cannot make mistakes in the way that we understand it as, you know, you make it. Because the errors in its outputs are not the computers. It's the slave to its instructions. The responsibility lies with its developer, its programmer, its creator, its architect, which is to say responsibility lies with a person. And we cannot hide that. We cannot abrade that away, right? A gun maker is not liable, it's true, for the misuse of the gun. But if during the testing of their latest piece of artillery they mistakenly obliterate, you know, a nearby village, it's not the captain that should go to jail. And, you know, just because you put out a press release describing how surprised you were that your new model, you know, hacked the neighbor or the. you know, how impressed you are by the destructive power of your missile. Well, we're moving forward. That doesn't release you from the liability of the launch. The missile didn't launch itself, you launched it. And so there's a lot we can get into, but the idea that I want people to contend with is how we deal with this. And right now, these closed models are saying AI safety, AI safety, safety as they call it, where the idea is these things are so dangerous. Oh gosh, they're so dangerous, but they're so. They're so dazzling, they're so important, they're so valuable, we can't get rid of them. But, you know, oh, it's going to kill some people, but it's all right. You know, that just happens. Oh, it's going to hack some companies. Oops, you know, whatever. We'll invest in them. The idea here is who operates this? And this should apply to our devices more broadly around the world. Right now, you buy a cell phone from Apple. And before you're allowed to use it, you have to click OK to continue. And they go, well, you're assuming liability for that. You clicked OK to continue. 700 pages. It sells you an Android phone. Samsung sells you an Android phone. You click OK to continue. And now that's all you. But that can't be possibly how it works, because you can't inspect the system. You can't understand how it's used. And particularly in the context of LLMs, where you're submitting queries to a model that they are running, where they are for your safety and everyone else's safety, intercepting the prompt and recomposing the prompt, saying we're applying safety rules and transformations to it. That's on you. But it's not. I can't even see what you did. I asked you a question. You gave me something back in return. And if it's an agentic AI, where I'm putting this thing in a harness, the harness being just a little program that basically uses these large models to feed it instructions, that it can then provide to tools that are existing on your local system. So now your computer that is connected to the internet is being, frankly, remotely controlled by a model that's far away that you don't understand how it works. But, you know, you hope it works pretty well. And frankly, they do work reasonably well. But every now and then it might hack, you know, some random company or whatever out there. Cost of doing business. I think we need to put Sam Altman in jail. There it is. And I think it'll be an instructive experience. There it is. All right. That's good. Right there. Enjoy this. That link is in the description below or right here. And finally, you can follow me on Instagram and X by using the links in my description below. This episode is brought to you by Universal Pictures Fokker & Law. Spin this Thanksgiving with the Fokkers. The beloved Meet the Parents franchise returns with a twist. Robert De Niro and Ben Stiller are back, joined by Ariana Grande as the newest member of the family. 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