Christian Watson Talks Big Win Over The Bears with Julian Edelman | Gronk & Jules Show

It's Thursday. We have another great episode on tap. We're starting with Packers, stud receiver Christian Watson. Then we'll give it out some progress reports. It's that time of the year. And then we are previewing tonight's Thursday night football game between the Seahawks and the Broncos. Let's get into it. He's in his fifth year with the Green Bay Packers. One of the most explosive receivers in the league right now just had a massive, massive game against a division rival. Let's get on with Christian Watson. Christian, welcome to the Gronk and Jules show. How are we feeling after this huge divisional game? When what's going on now? Thank you for having me first off. It's an honor. I were we're feeling great. I mean, there's not much of a better feeling than, you know, being your division rival, you know, obviously being the long time rival like the Bears as a as a Green Bay Packer. So yeah, now I'm feeling I'm feeling real good. I'm ready to keep this thing rolling. Man, you got to take us through before we get into anything. You got to take us through this insane touchdown catch, man. Like third and 22, massive play. I don't even know how you judge that ball. Love throws it deep in the end zone. You jump up and you get it. Can you walk us through the play call and what you were doing on that play to make one of the most incredible just judgments of a ball with such a tight space at the end of the end zone. Take us through that play. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, that was that was a crazy one. Honestly, you know, obviously we we called the, you know, the first deep shot, you know, two plays before didn't work out kind of got him to bet the line, you know, called another one to my to my boy young bug J Mike, you know, obviously got the OPI tough, got it brought back. And then I mean, third and 22, it's a tough situation to be in for any offense for any, you know, play caller and I mean, sure, we just, you know, wanted to call a shot. So, you know, we called, you know, one of our go to shot plays. Honestly, just coming off the line, I ran past. I think it was the safety that was kind of, you know, playing kind of just sitting there like 12, 13 yards and he kind of got hands on me, but didn't, didn't run with me. So I threw my hand up thinking like, oh, I'm going to be wide open. And then I see the safety in the middle of the feeling like, ah, maybe, maybe not so, uh, maybe not so wide open, but J love gave me a chance just kind of through through a ball out there that, you know, I could, you know, try to run under and honestly, it was kind of his autopilot mode. Uh, I was just, you know, having a feel for where the safety was at, but I would just say, I got to do everything I can to run under this thing. Uh, and honestly, it kind of just worked out. I feel like, I mean, you probably know better than anybody when you're in that mode. You're like, I just got to go get it. Uh, that was kind of the only thing I was going through my mind to just go get that Christian. No, I don't know what that feels. I never ran that fast down the field like you and your eyes are bouncing. And I never really caught a ball off a guy's helmet. Like, is that is that your favorite? Is that your favorite catch your TD catch your careers thus far? It's gotta be. Uh, yeah. Now, I mean, that's definitely up there. Uh, I mean, I, you know, I like to go with the with the recent stuff. So I mean, obviously, you know, the situation that it was, you know, being able to, uh, you know, put up that many points and, uh, you know, against the Bears and obviously have a game like that. Uh, I mean, that's definitely, uh, one of my top ones. And there's obviously to be able to come with that to get up and, you know, hear the crowd roaring and, uh, just knowing, you know, we're kind of, you know, putting this thing away. That was, that was a big time moment for me, for sure. That was a huge and, and it was the first packer with two touchdown catches 40 plus yards since old Jordy Nelson, since old Jordy Nelson. That's a big stat, bro. That's a huge stat. I mean, that's, that's some good company. That's some good company. I've seen, I've seen a couple, uh, I don't really try to look into the, you know, like the stats and the analytics and all, and all that stuff too much. But, you know, every now and then our PR guy will send out, uh, you know, some of those crazy historical things. I mean, obviously, it's, it's always, uh, you know, exciting and motivating to, you know, see what kind of company that you're in when you, when you have, you know, obviously a good game like that or, you know, you string together, uh, some touchdowns or some, you know, stats that are, that are kind of crazy. How juiced was the team going into this Bears game? Okay. I know we all know the NFC North and the division rivals that you guys have Bears Packers probably one of it's the oldest rivalry in our sport, probably one of them. And, and we all know what the head coach of the Chicago Bears said in the press conference was their little extra juice going into this game, especially, you know, with how you guys, you guys were one and two, you guys get a nice win last week against the Bucks, but then you're playing in your division rival, Bears with all the smack talk they had. Was there a little extra something going into this week, or is it just we do business as businesses being done? Uh, no doubt. I mean, there's definitely some extra juice. I mean, it's hard to, you know, block out all the noise, you know, sometimes, you know, something sneaks past and you see it or you hear it, um, you know, obviously that gets, that gets kind of going around the locker room and, and, you know, it just, it just brings the energy and the vibes up. I mean, as much as you, you know, try to say, I'll, I'm gonna just let the play do the talk. I mean, it's, it's, you gotta have some smack talk every now and then, and I think that, uh, you know, I think that we did, we did both. I mean, we talked our talk and then, you know, we walked the walk too. So I mean, I was, uh, there was a, there was a defy, uh, a little amp in the energy that's, uh, you know, going into that week, uh, you know, especially on game day. You know, I felt it, you know, from, you know, every person that touched the field, you know, you could, you could see it that they wanted to get this job done. And it showed on the film, man, and you guys came out and you punched them in the face. Now, I love how I see you are. Where do you get a grill in Green Bay? Uh, I mean, honestly, I haven't found, uh, you know, one out in Green Bay, uh, you know, I always, uh, I always go to my boy Leo out in Houston. Uh, you know, he gets all, you know, all my, all my jewelry from me. Uh, he gets me right. Uh, you know, unfortunately, it's, it's not, you know, local. So, you know, I got to, you know, got to find a way to get it, uh, get it out of Houston, Texas. But you know, my, my boy Leo always gets me right now. What's the grill consist of? Are we a princess cut? Are we keeping it open? Fangs? Like, you know, your boy used to have a grill. You know, you know, you know, you know, you're, you know, you used to, Edel dog had some bottoms princess cut with the open fangs. Oh, all right. And now, I mean, uh, I'm just basic right now. I just got, you know, the regular deck. I like the perm cuts, though, uh, I got the perm cut in my girls. And, you know, kind of looks like it's, uh, it's a permanent, you know, thing. But obviously it's, it's, uh, you know, it's just one piece kind of take it out. Uh, but yeah, no, I mean, I just, I put them on last year when I was coming back from the ACL just to, you know, kind of have a little bit, a little bit more swag. You know, I like the, you know, look good, feel good, play good vibe. Uh, so I threw it in last year, you know, obviously when I got back from the ACL and you know, things were kind of going. So I kind of just made it, you know, made it my thing. And, you know, I've been rolling with it. Let's talk about that ACL last year. You came off the ACL, took a little time. This year, you got six touchdowns in the first five games. Clearly, the ACL is back better than ever. Take us through the process of coming back from an ACL as a professional athlete. How hard that is. Uh, I mean, it's really tough. Uh, I mean, it really, you know, obviously there's all the physical things and all that. But I mean, the, the mental side of coming back from an injury like that is, you know, honest, I'd say probably the biggest part. I mean, it's gaining the confidence back, um, you know, and all the movements and, you know, all the stuff that you have to do. And obviously just the confidence that, you know, you can go out there and just, you know, be you, uh, you know, regardless of, of the fact that, you know, you're coming back from a, you know, a pretty, you know, major injury, pretty significant injury. So I mean, that was the biggest thing for me is to kind of just make sure that, you know, throughout the process, I'm, I'm making sure that the mental, uh, you know, is that at its peak, you know, just every single movement that I'm doing, I'm doing it enough to the point where I'm not thinking about, uh, I'm not thinking about anything anymore. I mean, that was really big for me. I think that, you know, kind of honestly, probably like six months, uh, six to seven months into my rehab. You know, I wasn't really even thinking about, you know, my ace, like my knee hurting or anything like that. And that was, that kind of just propelled me. You know, I hit my nine month mark. You know, I mean, the packers are definitely, you know, conservative and, and, you know, their rehab process and kind of how they approach, uh, you know, significant injuries like that. Uh, but I mean, I, I gave them enough confidence, so you just, you know, just let me hit the ground, uh, rolling and obviously, you know, I had enough confidence myself to go and, uh, you know, once I hit that nine month, I wanted to be, you know, I wanted to be a hundred percent Christian Watts and not thinking about, you know, knee, not thinking about any injuries, not trying to, you know, hold myself back or hold back anything and, uh, I mean, it helped me out a ton. Well, and I heard you went down to Wisconsin in 2024 to do a bunch of body tests. And what, what, what's that all about? You're big into the, your biomechanics and everything? Uh, yeah, no, a hundred percent. I mean, I, I couldn't, uh, I don't think I'd be, you know, in the, in the spot that I am today without, you know, uh, really kind of diving deep into into my body and, you know, how everything was working. Uh, you know, obviously, I dealt with, uh, the, you know, quite a few hamstrings early on in my career and, uh, you know, it's definitely just sent me back. And, you know, obviously, I'm, I'm trying, I'm trying to be, you know, as great a player as I can possibly be, just be the best version of myself. And obviously, that was, you know, that was definitely holding me back. So, uh, having the opportunity to go down to Madison and, uh, just kind of get like a full breakdown headed toe of, you know, how my body works, my body moves and you know how everything kind of you know correlates with each other you know correlating past injuries to you know present movement it was huge for me you know I was able to kind of you know see all where all my imbalances were you know I worked I mean obviously I'm honestly I'm still working on it to this day of just being able to maintain that balance but I mean it was huge I was able to get all of my all of the biometric testing done and yeah not me it's something I use and in my daily you know routine now to kind of just you know stay on top of that stuff with you know my hamstring and balance you know quad strength knee health all that stuff now is there something that you've taken from the ACL process or the rehab that you've brought into your weekly routine that you have to do every week is there something like what is it yeah yeah 100 percent I mean every time that I walk into the weight room I'm doing something for the quad I'm doing something for the hammy just to kind of stay on top of that stuff I mean obviously every single you know lift is not going to be you know a lower body lift but I mean I can kind of incorporate just you know basic you know movement stuff and you know just make sure that I'm getting that quad firing I'm getting that I'm getting the hamstring firing and getting through those movements you know getting through that deep flexion and kind of getting that movement just just honestly just for movement prep stuff I mean I feel like movement prep is bigger than anything for you know soft tissue stuff so yeah now I'm every time I walk in the weight room I'm hitting something for the quad something for the hammy just a you know just to train my my own my body and the you know the neurological system to just kind of just keep on making sure that I'm staying on top of those things that's awesome and I just don't think people understand the life of a professional athlete you have to almost like do a prehab rehab before you even get to fire up and lift because that's how intact you are with your body when it's your job like people don't understand that you know what I mean and it's good to hear it from you a young football player that's really engaged with this body trying to get the most out of his body that's like that's that's how you are a professional athlete that's what a pro athlete does everything's about the body it's awesome 100% and that was like the biggest thing for me just in terms of growing and you know finding myself and and who I am as a player is just I mean getting and getting and getting and getting to sink with my body I mean it's easy to kind of just you know say all he should be doing this he should be doing that he has the you know natural you know talent to do this but I mean it's a lot more that goes into it it's a it's a lot of you know work that that goes into you know being a successful you know NFL athlete so that was the biggest growth for me in terms of just getting and getting and sink with my body he's like a Ferrari folks you know you can't just go out there and and just put regular gas up in that Ferrari you got to warm that thing up get it up to about 150 170 and then you could hit that thing rolling 100% 100% now three weeks ago two weeks ago everyone was counting you guys out everyone was thinking hey man Packers we don't know what they are what he coached the floor in these last couple weeks do to literally make you guys look like a completely different team what was the crying mantra what was the the sands going around the locker room what what was the difference between two weeks ago and where we are right now with the Packers I mean first and foremost it's just it's just the standard you know the we have to set a standard for for ourselves as a team you know as a as a offense you know obviously specifically maybe on that side of the ball but man we got to set a standard for ourselves and you know and we got to uphold that standard you know every single day we got to approach everything you know walk through his meetings you know we got to approach that you know you know holding ourselves to that standard I mean obviously you know things you know even even when things were going wrong I mean there were things that looked good but obviously there were things that looked really bad but I mean it was just you know staying together you know through that as well I mean it's easy to you know try to find blame you know try to blame you know this group or you know this person but I mean that's just you know the easy way out or you know for us if you wanted to be the team that we wanted to be I mean he was preaching that you know we got to stick together and we got to continue to hold ourselves to that standard each and every day you know be accountable as a football team for you know what was going wrong and you know obviously we got to continue to develop our strengths you know the strengths are gonna you know be able to you know help us through those adverse moments you know when when the weaknesses are showing so I mean I think the biggest thing was just how sticking together as a team you know regardless you know we knew what we were capable of you know we know that you know we're still working each and every day to continue to strive to you know become you know the team that we want to be so I mean as long as we can stick together we were going to get it done you know obviously the you know we let the you know front office and all that you know do their job in terms of you know putting people in the right place to do things but I mean we just you know sticking together as a team now talk to me about this receiver room you're the dude in the room now you know dobs wicks not in there they were there for a long time now it's you and golden what's what's that what's the vibe of that room right now how do you guys go about your work we're rolling I mean we're we're rolling and you know I love our group you know obviously it's tough to you know have you know Jay Reed go down I mean I think that he was you know he was going to be a huge part of that group as well but you know obviously you know football you know obviously I'm you know you know praying and hoping for the best for him but you know obviously you know we got to keep this thing rolling but I mean I love our group you know I think that we got a lot of you know talent talented players a lot of playmakers from the from the top down but you know I mean I've been I've been you know ecstatic to see you know Matthew golden going out there and and doing what you know I always knew that he could do you know putting that on display you know obviously he he makes my job easier you know obviously they've got to respect his side of the ball you know respect wherever he's at so you know I host me get open and you know vice versa but I mean we got a talented group you know I I think that we feed off of each other's success and I think that you know it's it's easy to you know be excited for you know yourself when when you're making plays but you know I'm just as excited when when Matthew golden is going up and doing his doing his little you know like ballerina you know acrobatic catches in the air snatching the ball out of the air I'm just just as excited for that as I am from you know my own success so and I we kind of just feed off of each other's success and and just make plays when our numbers called that's a great attitude man and you guys are a sneaky really good tandem that are only going to get better I mean you guys have only been on the field together for four games five games like real on the field together let's talk some craft talk who are some guys that you loved watching growing up playing the receiver position that you kind of modeled your game offers they're guys that you watched on Instagram when you're a younger person that you watch their training or who are the guys that you love to watch at at the position you play honestly I was it was kind of a mixed bag for me growing up because you know growing up for me I was always you know I'm not always but once I got to you know like you know middle school high school when you know football was getting really serious I was I was a smaller guy I wasn't the biggest you know receiver or anything but I you know so I grew up and I always loved you know the Julio Jones Randy Moss Mike Evans you know love the bigger body receivers and as I was kind of you know not growing into that you know bigger body receiver obviously I started branching out and you know obviously watching a bunch but I mean those are always my go-to you know Megatron Julio Mike Evans and Randy Moss were I mean it was hard not to not to you know fall in love with you know the things that those guys were doing they were just dominating at the position you know they were they were just kind of doing everything so I mean those those are the guys who I loved watching and you know after I got to the NFL and I you know I grew into that you know bigger body you know speedy receiver you know I've obviously you know looked into them even more you know started watching you know old tape of those guys and kind of how you know how they attacked off the line of scrimmage how they you know ran routes how they found ways to make plays with the ball in their hands man now you're Moss and Jokers you watch Moss now you're Moss and Jokers bro we just we just talking learned learned a little something I mean it's been fun to watch man it's been fun to watch we got to talk about Jordan love your quarter back I mean he's gotten back on track last last week is the Jordan love we all know what makes him such a special player I mean I feel like I say you know anytime anybody asked me about about Jordan I mean it's it's just the the confidence that he has in his self and and it radiates and I mean honestly the confidence that he has in everybody around him you know regardless of if things are going good or bad he's gonna you know still have that same level of confidence in us to go out there and make a play to give us opportunity to make a play and I mean it just it's hard not to want to make a play for for ten you know when he when he still believes in you when things are going bad you know he still believes in you and you you know when you don't make a play I mean he just has that poison that in that confidence in everybody to just kind of keep things trucking to continue to lead the same way that he always does and you know regardless of of if things are going good or bad he's always there how how is he in the locker room is he he's one of the boys or is he like the quarterback like you know the quarterback's kind of like it's kind of like the teachers aid you know He's not he's not always a student he's got to kind of be on a different level where he's got to kind of keep us all in check or see the guy that goes out with you guys at dinner, like, what kind of dude is Jordan love in the locker? We don't understand like he's just a steady, Eddie guy. Yeah. No, I mean, he's one of the guys for sure. He's one of the guys for sure. And I think that's what makes it, you know, that's what makes the relationship so easy to kind of build and that trust is so easy to grow with him is that, I mean, he kind of just, I mean, he just accepts everybody right into the group and obviously, obviously we accept him right in. So I mean, he's just one of the guys. I mean, he's the one that's, you know, hosting dinners and, you know, brings everybody off and defense over to his house and, you know, just chilling watching, you know, Monday night football games, Thursday night football games. He just one of the guys for sure. So you guys for fun, go to Jordan loves house in Green Bay. Is that what we do? Yep. No, that's what we do. That's what we do. He gets some nice, you get some nice soul food for us. Get a little, a little something that we don't see too much in Green Bay. Wisconsin gets a little soul food going and yeah, no, it's a good time. It's a very unique pro football town, right? It's like a college town. Like, what's your favorite thing to do in Green Bay that you can only do in Green Bay? I mean, I gotta think of, I mean, honestly, my favorite thing to do in Green Bay is playing in Lambo field, you know, honestly, but, you know, away from football. I mean, the great thing about Green Bay is just, you know, obviously, it's a smaller town, you know, NFL football wise. But I mean, I can go out. I can go to Walmart. I can go to Target. And, you know, obviously, people recognize who I am, but you know, I'm not getting, you know, bombarded. I feel like, you know, Green Bay has a lot of respect for, for, you know, the football players in terms of kind of just letting them live, you know, live a normal life. So, honestly, I feel like, you know, kind of just, it's peaceful out here. You know, and I love that just being able to, you know, kind of just do anything. I can go, you know, to the pumpkin patch with, with my son. And, you know, I'm not getting bombarded. I can kind of just live a normal life out here. And, you know, I really enjoy that. Well, what's your Colvers order? Oh, Colvers order. I was always, I'm, I'm a two, two single butterbirds with cheese, ketchup, mayo, lettuce, two fries. And then if I'm feeling, if I'm feeling a little frisky, I'll get a, I'll get a, an Oreo shake. No cheese curds. I'll get, I'll get some cheese curds every now and then I'm, I'm a big fry. Yeah, I'm a big, I'm a big fry, guys. So, most of the time, I'm just going with it with a good, a good batch of fries. Now, give me a pro tip of the Lambo leap. I mean, as a player that played for a different team, everyone dreams about the old Lambo leap. What's, what, what defines a good Lambo leap? Oh, I mean, honestly, the only, the only rule for a good Lambo leap is getting up there. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta get all the way up there. You gotta get, you know, obviously, you know, turned around and set up there. It's always, it's always a boo for the Lambo leap. If you know, you're halfway up there, the fans are kind of just holding you up. You just got your arms up there. So, I mean, I always, my, my number one tip is always put the football down. It's almost impossible to do a Lambo leap if you have the football in your hands and you're trying to get up there with one hand. I was telling the, you know, the, the young boys talking about earlier, Jay Mike, he jumped up and he had the football in his hands still and he didn't make it up all the way. You gotta put it down. You gotta put a hundred and 10% effort into getting up there because it's a lot higher than you think. I'll be at this. Use two hands, climb up there and just, just make sure you get all the way up. Pro tip. You gotta use, drop the ball, use two hands, two hands. Speaking of Lambo, Dallas is coming, coming to town this week, Sunday night football. Everyone's going to be watching how we feeling? I'm feeling real good. I'm feeling really, really good. I, you know, obviously, you know, we're putting, you know, the last week behind us. But I mean, I think that we can carry that momentum, the energy and the vibes that we had from, from that last game and, you know, we got to hit the ground rolling. You know, first, first day of practice this week, you got to keep that energy, that same, you know, focus and that same mentality there so we can just ride that wave of that momentum that we built. I think momentum is a big thing in this league, you know, it's, it's easy for it to go away. So when you've got it, you know, you gotta try to do everything that you can to keep it. But, you know, I think that, I think that we're in a good spot, you know, obviously in terms of, you know, how we finish off, you know, with the win last week. And, you know, I think that we got the right mentality going into this week. Man, it's crazy. League, isn't it? You know, it's just the adverse times early in the season. They're going to help you for the times at the end of the season. This is all part of the story. You got to have a short memory whether it's good or bad. And it's going to be very fun to watch you this week. Last question, I see you have a lot of sneakers in the background. So you're clearly a sneakerhead. What's our Sunday night football pregame shot shoe selection going to be? Oh, you put me on a spot here. I usually, I'm kind of on the spot kind of guy just, you know, picking my favorite, but I think I think I do know what shoes I'm going to wear this week. I think I'm going to go, I don't know if they're, oh, yeah, they're right here behind me. I think I'm going to go with the, oh, I'm going the wrong way this way. Ooh, I think I'm going to go with the, with the lemonade, the off-white lemonade here. If I can, if I can point to the yellow ones, I think I'm going with the yellow lemonade, off-white Air Force ones for Sunday night football on Lambo. Man, well, we can't wait to watch you play, man. Thanks for coming on the grunk and jewel show. Keep ball and six tuds through five. You're ballin, bro. You're ballin. Keep it up. Stay healthy. I got to keep this thing rolling. I appreciate you. All right, man. Thanks for coming on. Hey, man. How's Ralph even loving that Sundays? Are you kidding me? He loves Sundays because Sundays is for football, but he also loves Sundays, the dog food. The guy goes absolutely absurd for it. He knows exactly what cabinet Sundays are in. And after every single walk, he goes to it and menses and cries a little bit like me, me, me, I deserve Sundays. I went on a walk. That's how much he loves it. And then also we're open up presents, Camille and I, I forgot why, like two weeks ago. And Ralph, he wanted a present. So we wrapped up some Sundays, you know, and some wrapping paper and he broke it open and he took his paw and he busted it right through the Sundays and started eating it like an absolute maniac. The guy loves it like no other. And he'll do anything. He'll, he'll sit for it. He'll give me paw for it. He'll, he'll sit for five minutes. As long as he can get a little treat in a little taste of what Sundays is. And the one thing, you know, I, I remember I got some other foods for Rocky and like they were like the soft foods, the ones that you have to prepare and like they loved it. But they love this just as more and they're happy. And let me tell you, Ralph, he loves all food, but there's levels to how much he loves, you know, that particular food. And with Sundays, he knows what natural food is. He knows, you know, what real ingredients are. You can give him a dog treat that has, you know, BS ingredients in it. And of course, he's going to eat it, you know, it's Ralphie. He eats everything. He's a French bulldog, but he doesn't go as crazy as he does for Sundays for dogs. He shows what passion, how much more he loves Sundays compares compared to other dog food. Make the switch to Sunday. Go right now to Sundays for dogs dot com slash Ralphie and Rocky and get 30% off your first order or you can use the code Ralphie and Rocky at checkout. That's 30% off your first order at Sundays for dogs dot com slash Ralphie and Rocky or use code Ralphie and Rocky at checkout. What a guy. Well, cool kid. Really cool. I mean, if he wants a future in media after this, he's got one. He's got the swag, got the swag jewelry, the shoes in the background, but he's really about his business, like the Wisconsin thing going in, studying your biomechanics. He's a track guy. So he's very intuned with his technique. The point and like that's something as a professional athlete, you got to become obsessed with. You got to become obsessed with trying to make yourself better, trying to keep yourself on the field. Your body's your livelihood. Your body is your livelihood and and to see a younger football player. I mean, granite. This guy is very highly paid. He's already, you know, on his second contract, but he's still very young, dude. Oh, yeah. To go in and have that mindset, he just seemed very mature and it seems like that receiver room with him at the lead of it is in a good position. It sure is. I couldn't pick a better guy to lead the receiver room. What a guy. I'm a Christian Watson guy. Yeah. I have two now. I love it. I mean, he's just been absolutely balling. What a game. Keep it going on. Brom time, baby. Let's. I mean, he talked about momentum. Big mo. They got a lot of momentum. Big. We saw a confidence. How it's a tricky thing in this league. Amen. And that looked like a confidence building game against the bears that will roll over into Sunday night football. That's cool. That was cool confidence. That golfer's order too. That's cool. That's order. I mean, my guy likes a butterbird. He does. I'm a I'm a curd guy. I know I'm not in a good place. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. We got to go. I'm dying to go. We got to go. Unbelievable. She's got to add some curds in there. Come on. I mean, you gotta have I'm a curd nerd. Baby. Now do you put curds in ketchup or ranch? Nothing nothing bear. I raw dog the curds. You rod. They're that good. You don't need it They always ask they'll even ask if you want mirror an era ranch ketchup. Nothing straight up, baby Straight up. I think I get a large - you're going large. Oh, I'm a curd guy. We got to go to we got to go to the colors We got to check our Wisconsin people are loving this. Oh, man. We got to check it out. What a fun interview Yeah, it was so fun, but before we get we talked Sunday night football before we get to Sunday We got Thursday, baby. Oh, thank God. It's Thursday. God. It's a game tonight, bro. TGIT. We got a game tonight Not a not an acronym guy. Was that right? TGIT. Yeah, TGIT. Right darn right and a good one at that a good one at that Seattle at Denver Seattle 3 and 2 coming off a tough loss at home to San Fran Denver on the other hand went to LA Got to win kind of an ugly one, but they got the win both 3 and 2 heading in this one How you feeling about this game tonight? You know, I'm I'm worried about the Broncos offense Yes, this is an elite defense. They're about to play Mike McDonald, Ememori, Leonard Williams, withers like This defense knows how to play and they just got done playing against ultra processing type quarter back in Brock Pertey and you know, it was it was kind of I mean, they let up a lot of points, but they took the ball away here and there like how are they gonna do against Bonyx? Bonyx and his fruit, you know, his his starting confidence his starting the game confidence hasn't really been there. They've been struggling. They haven't been able to find a rhythm. I think You know Seattle is due for a good offense a game. Sammy D needs to take care of the football They need to somehow manufacture a run game. I'm a little worried about Denver and how banged up they are on defense Yeah, like they have a really good defense line the Denver Broncos, but they're about to play against a pretty good offensive line Like you can't just go bully these guys You know, this is gonna be a big test for flurry and And how he reacts to how the play calling went last week. They got to do something to get the run game going because when Sam Darnold has a run game play action type quarterback when he play actions. He's elite dangerous. He's very elite I expect to see probably a really big game from JSN big game. I think he's you know, I think It wasn't his fault why they lost the game, but he's the type of player that thinks to himself after that game If I make that catch we win that game don't right, you know, and that's kind of guy. He is. So I think he's gonna have a stellar week of practice And probably have a big game But you know, I I'm worried about Denver's offense. I am too. I mean No, Sean's calling it and it's probably gonna look a little more Rhythmatic with Sean because Sean knows Bonyx Sean fought for Bonyx Sean wants Bonyx So I think there's a little difference between play collar instead of having Davis Webb. Yep. It's just like A bone looks a little tentative out there. It's not these shots downfield that we're kind of using and it's only in the first three quarters For sure you have the four you know, it's only the first three quarters. They're a fourth quarter team. I wake up But you know, the Seattle's a type of team were Seattle likes to play from a a with a lead You know, they're gonna have these long sustained drives which they haven't necessarily been having because of their rushing game They need to find that rushing game Wilson needs to get going the offense align needs to get going because that's when they're at their most dangerous but like The defense for the Seattle Siox they know how to play, you know, and last week Yeah, they gave up points They lose to the Niners, but that's a division game like When you play out of the division and you're a strong team and another team has to see you for the first time in four years That's tough, you know, especially coming off a huge loss against the Niners, you know You know, they're gonna be rocking To get back In a game ASAP Denver bad taste of their mouth. Look Denver. It's a hard place to play. I was just gonna say how hard is Denver to play. It's very Denver. Yes, it's very hard Like I mean, I don't think we won there a lot But we're not the Seattle Seahawks. That's true. You know, and You know, there's a lot of penalties. They got to clean that up. Got to clean that up. Peneldees are through the roof with everyone, but Sam's had 40 40 through five games through five games. That's that's not a Super Bowl winning Team right there. I think this game ultimately comes down to turnovers. Yep You know, and I really do think Because like when you watch Sam though, it's not like he's not Like confident when he throws the ball this guy lets it rip. He don't care. He's just confident He needs to turn the confidence down a little bit sometimes And and and live to see another down maybe give Boa a little bit of that confidence. He's got overloading on Yeah, but you know, it's it's gonna be a tough one. This is gonna be a really good game. I think Seattle Just because the continuity of yeah the offense I mean, they still put up 29 points against Niners, but the offense hasn't been looking like what we were accustomed seeing last year Late in the season Which there's still trying to learn now cylinders. Yeah, yeah, and Sam is only played and you know He missed two games with the hip You have lock in there filling it takes a lot it takes time to get these guys in midseason form You know, and especially with the new season extra game less preseason time practice Yes, like these teams take a little longer and the same could be said about Denver You know, would it surprise me if Denver comes out and lights it up on offense because Sean's in there dialing up No, but do I think that's gonna happen right away? No It's it you're right. It takes time time on task and everyone's been clamor. Where's water? Where's water? But this stuff takes time Yeah, I mean, it's bonix is only in his third year. He's got a new receiver group. It's a different type of receiver group I really wish Denver had a run game. Yeah, I just I can't for the life of me. I keep waiting for it to come. Yeah, and it's just like When it's not there Sean Peyton when he had album Camara really we need that back. You know, I mean I look back. It just takes pressure Off the quarterback, you know, instead of these little short like Rollout throws that supplement to try to be like a run right it just takes it at like We need to get something going in the run. God has established a run game. I mean would there was a crazy stat I saw last week that all like the hundred plus rushers There's like five or six of them We're all on winning teams, you know, you know, I mean and it's not because you can't win with just passing It's just you can control a game. Yes When you run the ball well yes So I'm a possession everything time a good football teams can run the ball You know you you look on third down both these teams are struggling But on defense Seattle's tough they're great on third down and that's a situation Denver not so much 2026 in the league not very good 45 and a half percent conversion rate Seattle in the red zone 15 It's just like When certain's not in It it takes a half a second off of the past rush to be able to get there Because now the quarterback can sit and process through Who's open or not and not have and and guys are gonna get open quicker fully fully that's what a great corner does it slows down The quarterback's processing because he can only go to like he doesn't even get a lot of target certain But if you're going to the other guys You know and you're you're sped. You know, they just that that clock for the quarterback You know is moss plan? Not looking great mispractice Monday mislast game Certain the same thing uh who fungus there is some hope but moss and certain it's not looking great. Yeah, that's that's that's tough That's tough. That'll be bad. That'd be really bad and this is not like last week. What's even great? It is Seattle by three opening line opening line Seattle by three in Denver. What do you think about that rarely do you get points going on the road in that place Very rare very rare very rare. I know this is not responsible wagering, but what do you think about that line? I I mean That the the offense for the Broncos just hasn't been there and you can you this is a points business. Yep And the defense hasn't been playing What we're accustomed to seeing for Denver? You know with the injuries This is a muddy part of the season where You know, it's the excitement of the start of the seasons kind of over This is when the grind of the NFL kind of starts yep five to about 10 would this be week five to 10. This is pre pre pre pre cream season or just pre cream season. Oh, this is pre pre pre pre pre pre double pre gotta double pre Okay, we all know football is starting till about after Thanksgiving darn right darn right and we're away from that we're not even the Halloween yet come on now. We're not eating Halloween I will say I'm worried about that secondary as well and wins the last time a Sean Payton offense is averaging less than 20 a game. I mean, he's got to be like staying up at night pulling his air out last year early. Probably. Yeah, probably last year early. Once they got it before they got it rolling before they got it rolling. Man, man, league. It's tough, man. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. Whoever could be steady. Eddie through the storms. Big test for Seattle here. How do you bounce back from that. Big test for Seattle. I was test for Denver at home. I like Seattle. I do too. I don't know about the spread, but I like Seattle to win. I was going to say the little grinders special teams. For the, you know, I mean, the Broncos have solid special teams, but I can't wait to see Myers kicking in Denver. Oh, my god. Well, you know, 80 yarder. No, you little game little. He came little, little game little with a big leg. You know, I was talking about it a couple like yesterday, I think, I mean, it's, you've never seen a great team without a pretty great kicker. This is true. There's something psychologically that happens when you have a guy that you can lean on that you know, three is guaranteed. How you call the plays, how you defend plays, everything is put like when you have a guy that is steady, you look at the chiefs with Buckert. You look at the paths with Gaskowski and Venetary. You got to have a great kicker. Myers with Seattle. Myers with Seattle. That's true. No, you need that. And in case in point Monday night, we saw it again, especially Charmin A coming back. Yeah, we got to see that. I don't they need them. I know. You know, price getting hurt for the Seattle. That hurt. There is hope. There is hope for a return. That's not going to be this week. They say not expected a week. Short week is tough. You don't want them to come back on a week where you don't have practice. That's true. You know, these are all walk through weeks when you play on Thursday because of the recovery cycle. Like not, you're not hitting it all this week. No, you're not even, you're not even like, you're not even shells. Oh, wow. Full walk. There's everything. It's full. It's usually full walk through every day. Man, I'm excited for this one tonight. This would be a great game. It'll be a really great game. It's a great Thursday. I love watching a good AFC team play against a really, you know, good NFC. It's always kind of like a measuring stick where the conference is darn right. Little inner league baseball for you. Little inner league baseball. All right, we talked about it earlier. Jules. We teased cream season. We are far far from it. But we are in progress report season. Shall we look back on this first quarter of the NFL season and do a little progress reports? My quarters always off with the 17, but I guess five. Yeah, roughly, roughly, roughly, very roughly. So how this is going to work is we're going to do two coaches, two teams, two players, going to look at them, assess the first five weeks here, and we will give them a letter grade A through F a la progress reports in school. Should we go five through one just because I remember when I got progress reports, they never give you the letter grade. They always give you a five, a four, they didn't want to get y'all scared with the letter grade. Okay, I like this. So like even right now with my kid, yeah, her progress reports, it's usually like five, four, you know, five being the best. Five being okay. I like an A. I like that. We'll go with that. We don't want to throw an A out there because it's not an A yet. This is true. It's similar. It's similar. We're not that one or a F. No, it's not there yet. It's a one. It's a one's a wake up call. One's a wake up call. And the good thing about progress reports is there's time to fix stuff with a lot of a lot of time, a lot of ball time. How are you in these PTA meetings, by the way? What's a PTA meeting or not PTA? I mean, like a parent teacher conference meeting. I'm all right. You know, I'm sitting there trying to get the nitty gritty with the teacher. I want to hear how do we make it better? Yes. Okay. I don't want to hear the sunshine rainbows. Tell me what's wrong. How do we fix it? How do we fix this? All right. I like that. Okay, let's go in with the Fixie mentality. Don't come with me with problems. Come with solutions. Nice. That's the winner. Do we need this? What do we need? Give it to me straight teach. Give it to me straight. And with that on our mind, how about we start with Clint Kubiak, Raider's head coach. Yeah. Dude, two huge road winds. I mean, the LA chargers. It's not a huge one. It's not huge. It looked good at the time. Yeah. The season. It was huge. At the time. It was really nice. New Orleans. Tough win in New Orleans. That's a tough place to play. You know, the back-to-back losses against really good football teams. Kansas City in New England. That's tough. You know, Kurt has played well. Played well. Until I didn't really last week against the Pats. Defense has been surprising people with the Kobe Dean flying around, Mac, Mad Max, getting pressure. Tough blowout last week in New England. Tough blowout. First one of the year, though. Look, if we were sitting here eight weeks ago, you know, and before the season started, saying that the Raiders would be three and two going in. Oh my god. Going into the second quarter. I would have called you a damn liar. Yeah. So I think this is a great start. They look like a completely different team. They look like a competent football team. Yes. Like their offense aligns playing well. Linderbaum looks to be a great signing. You know, Kurt's playing well. The tight ends. Both of them. They, you know, bowers, mayor. They know their strengths. I love Washington. Love Washington. I got to get genty going. I'm going to the one to receivers are a little tough, but look, they don't get the money there. That's right. The money's in the tight ends. That and, you know, line and you're seeing dividends. So for where they're at, I got to give them a four plus. I like that. Oh, four, oh, we're doing pluses. What's the numbers? Numbers and four point five, four point five. I like that. That's really, really, really strong. That's a, that's a strong, great, I mean, what a great hire by Tommy. I love that hire. Yeah. I didn't know how it was going to go, but he's, you know, he, he's doing very well. Right. I just didn't know if he was too quiet. He didn't show enough emotion. Yeah. I didn't know much about him when they hire, like, I know the name of course. Yeah. And the work he put out on the field in Seattle, but it'll be interesting to see this second quarter. Yes. Because I still remember cubes with New Orleans and Derek Carr lighting it up for the first couple of weeks. Lighted up. That's true. That's true. And then they kind of went quiet. You know, but, man, this is a hell of a start for a Raiders team. Don't write going into a new, a new generation of, of Raiders. I think it's a really great start. Amen. Cannot be, I mean, I couldn't be happier if you're a Raiders fan. Yeah. That's a good start. Don't write and people didn't expect much from this team. Now, just because the last two have been losses, doesn't mean they can't get it turned around. Who do they got this week? They got the bills coming up on the 18th. So they got, they got a tough one coming up in Vegas. If you think the bills stay out here or no Monday night. Yeah, stay out here. Okay, bills are probably staying out here. I saw a bunch of bills, fans in LA. Really? Yeah. Yeah, they do travel. They take over. They travel. We'll see. They'll probably have a bunch in Vegas. Oh, a big test. It will be. And that's a kind of fan base that'll turn that into a feeling more like a home game for the bills. Yeah. Which is known to happen at a Legion AKA the Death Star out there. Moving on. 4.5 is a pretty good grade. Yeah. Next, the comeback man, Aaron Donald. This is a tough one. He has missed some time with the back, played in two of the five game, no, three of the five games. Sorry about that. Out week four came back last night in against Buffalo. Had a big fumble recovery. Had a big fumble recoveries. Played in three games. Solo tackle. No sacks. Had a sack got called back last night. Yeah. It's a tough one. It's not really that tough. I mean, the guy was out for two years. Yes. And he's still making an impact. He's still getting double teams. He's still allowing other guys to eat. You know, and I expect him to get a lot better. For Aaron Donald, it's just like, he's the type of a student where you just say pass fail. Yeah. Yes. He's passing. Passing. He's passing. I like that. That seems fair. You don't, you don't go too much with Aaron Donald because he's earned that. I like that. But he's passing passing with flying colors. And and really the real importance of Aaron Donald ain't right now. This is true. We need Aaron Donald in December and January when it's cream season. Yes. Okay. And that's what he's working on to be. Yep. I think he's done a great job for a guy who's been out of league. You know, I mean, that's people. I don't think the fan understands how challenging it is to psychologically put yourself in the game after being on vacation for two years. Two years is crazy. This isn't one year out. This is saying a couple of months. He's a year. He's only going to get better. I think he's in a only get better. But he's passing. Don't write. I love it. Moving on. We got the Denver Broncos. We talked about a little bit earlier. This is a tricky one to put a put a letter. Great honor. A score on. Yeah. I think I think they're at about a there are three right now. Okay. A solid three. Three solid. Look, the defense is banged up. We're still stalling in offense at the beginning of games. But they know how to win. Yeah. They have the three wins. they, you know, they beat a Jaguars team that's really good, really good. They beat the Rams, which is a good football team that hasn't been playing very well in prime time. That was a big one. You know, but the win on the road in LA was impressive too. That was a hungry hungry. That's division game. That's a big one. That's a big one. This isn't the team that we saw last year in week 17, 18, no, in the playoffs. Nope. So like, I think they have some, some making up to do. They've been very average on offense. Very, you know, and I think, I think it's going to get better. I think so too. There's been a lot of differences this year. You know, you got a new receiver. You got to try to find out how he works in our system with Waddle. You got a new play caller for a second who has a different rhythm than Sean. So like, there's a lot of moving parts to this. I think more continuity. I always say this more time on task. Always, but like, I think that's what makes guys better. You can't get better at football unless you play football. Well said, you know, you can go in the weight room. You can watch the film. You could do this. You could do that. What makes you better at football is playing football together. Simple as that. Simple. Amen. There's no magic pill. Bill used to say this. I know this. I know that. You just got to go do it. Get out there. You got to go out and play and you got to make your practices. You got to take those like their baby games. That's what we used to call our practices. Many games. Scotty O'Brien. Practice ain't nothing but a mini game. Practice execution becomes game reality. Don't write, baby. Moving on. This is a tough one. We're heading to L.A. Mike McDaniel, the new OC. I don't like kicking a man. I know. I don't either. But it's a one. Yeah. Yeah, it's a one stuff. Yeah, it's it's I think this is I think there's a lot of things wrong with this. And it's not just McDaniel. It's it's how the offense is formulated. What kind of players they have in the offense injuries with the offense. Lines beat up again. Herbert seems to be in a blender mentally. Looks like he's got the worst body language I've ever seen. Oh, it ain't great. You know, at 13 turnovers this year, it's like a season's worth. I was just going to say, that's a season's worth. Yeah, they haven't been able to find anything, you know, the run game other than in like garbage time. The past game is tough. There's a lot of pre snap penalties. There's a lot of guys that look like they don't know what they're doing. There's a lot of guys in the same area on past concepts, a lot of drops, a lot of drops. I don't think it's just on McDaniel. No, I don't think so either. I'm with you. I think it's, you know, a whole lot of things. But look, you're a former head coach. Now that's probably getting paid pretty handsomely as the offense, a coordinator play caller for a team that had that has a quarterback that people have always been high on pretty high on made the playoffs last two years. Now they're starting to own five. I hate doing it, but that's a one. That's a one man. That's summer school. A lot of time to turn around now. Let's have summer school. We got something. This is like, and we're not even through fall, and we're already talking summer. Oh, brother. Oh, brother. We're talking good, bro. And we haven't even got to. We haven't got to Halloween. Oh, man. Fall break and we're teasing summer school. It's going to be a long year. Not yet. They still look. Got time to turn around. They got time to improve. Yes. I don't know about turn around, but let's just improve. Dude, if I got to hear them on Mickey D's, get this old line of healthy. My gosh. I know, but we invested so much money in the same story as last year. Goodness gracious. We got to find like five, six plays that everyone likes. Yes. Just maybe just runs. Yes. Play the hits. We got we got play hits. We got to play things that guys know what to do on. We got to play. We got to we got to play plays that guys are confident in doing. Yes. Let's hit singles here. Let's we got to hit a bunch of things. We got to we need some rules for runners around. We need some small balls. Yes. Small ball. Then I have to be sexy. Just has to work. All right. On the flip side here. Guys, this guy's kind of tearing up the league right now. Anything but old Brock pretty five five. I mean, my god five. Mr. Mr. I hadn't been sacked in four weeks. 98 for 142 over a thousand over almost 1200 yards 13 passing touchdowns only two picks on the year. First 49er quarterbacks and Steve Young to start a season with three straight games with at least two touchdown passes and are passer rating over a hundred. Not bad company. Steve Young's damn good. Don't write brother. I mean, anytime you're in a sentence with young or Montana in that organization. That's big. Even if it's September and I hate September football. But like the Niners, they just look like a tough team. They're mentally tough right now. They're not complaining about injuries. They don't even have a receiver. No. Other than I mean, they have Mike. Mike has been a huge addition huge and I think that's that's made Brock Pertie raise his game. Oh, because he can sit and you know, not have to just process everything. He could sit there pre-snap and know if he has man coverage with no help over there. Say, I know where I'm going. I'm going to that big ass basketball player looking to Mike Evans who's going to be in a Hall of Fame high point. That thing. You're going to change the light bulb. We're going to use that now. I'm going to keep using that man. That out Tommy. I just love their resilience. I love their mental toughness. Big games that they show up in. It's incredible. Next man that I need to come off in a kill. He's at his age and play the way he has unreal. Brandon cooks in there too. Cooky with the Tudd. I mean, Shani. Shani got him to pick out of Shani. You got to tip your flat bill cap to Kyle, Shani, but Brock Pertie. I mean, he's the he's the strawster and the drink. He sure is. He's playing and he's the MVP through first quarter of the season. Don't write. That's a five all day. That's a five. That is a five all day. I'm not worried about the Niners right now, though. No, never are. No. They're always like last year. They were a rebuild year at 12 years. Their ability to compartmentalize. Block out the noise. Not take the rat poison and start five and O is unbelievable. Yeah. I still can't get over it. Unbelievable. You better. You better. You better. Who do they got this coming up? Commanders Monday night in San Francisco. The Debow Bowl. The Debow Bowl. Yeah, you know, who knows of this league, but it's tough. Seattle one and lost to those guys. But I can't see the Niners losing this game. I just can't either. It's all going to be about Russian tegrity against Jaden Daniels. Don't let them take over the game. Can't run past the quarterback. Gotta keep them in the pocket. Niners. Keep them in the pocket. When is Bosa coming back? I haven't heard him. That'll be huge. But getting back to Brock Perty, man. Love his attitude. Doesn't he's not he's not. He's like the JSN of quarterbacks. There is talk Nick to come back this week. Oh, Bosa's coming back. There are rumors out there. There is according to Kyle Shanahan a chance. So you're saying there's a chance. But back to Brock, man, keep it going. What an unbelievable start. Guys playing lights out. Inticipation. Knowing where to go with the ball. Hitting guys with the ball placement in the right areas. Knowing his matchups, getting the right play calling. You know, a couple of years ago, everyone was talking about he's just a good operator. Oh, yeah. Go game manager. You got to stay healthy. You got to stay. He's been really good with his legs. He really has been. He's a little. He's a little thumper with those legs. He's got a, he's got a big strong lower end face. He's not a tall guy, but he's not a small guy. No, not by any means. He thick with two C's. Dick Brock, maybe we love him. Let's go Brock. Keep it up. Come on, baby. And last, but certainly not least, tools. Let's head to the steel city. What do you think about these Steelers? How do we grade these guys? You know, I got to give the Steelers a four. Oh, right. That's pretty good grade. Mom's going to be happy about that one. You know, their wins aren't crazy. Great. They lost on the road. All their wins are at home at Lanna Cincinnati. Indy. But it's the first year I've seen the Pittsburgh Steelers with like pretty good offense line play. Yeah. It's not it's not in their way right now. Warren has been an absolute spark plug. They've been able to get him going in the run game. Aaron looks like he's moving like as good as he he's moved in probably five years. And Aaron has been putting the ball where it has needed to be in those losses. There was a lot of drops. A lot of a lot of guys just gloved up. Oh, no, so I loved up meaning, you know, covered sticky. So like I think Aaron's been playing well. the defense is made plays, there's been some holes, but they've kind of tightened that up ever since TJ put the headset on and yelled at the defensive coordinator PG the amount of bickering on this team is kind of funny. There's a lot of bickering, but it's an older team that that can do that. Right. That's how they operate because, you know, the guys that are bickering are guys that have made a lot of plays in this league and that have seen a lot of football at its highest level. You know, I mean, so like when Aaron, Aaron Rodgers are basically a coach. Oh, yeah. TJ Watt is basically a coach that can jump over you and like take the ball from you and he said, but he's like every game, every game. Yeah. You know, high Smith. They got, they got, they got guys, they sure do. And it's, it's productive. Bickering. I like that. They, who do they got this week? They got the bucks down in Tampa and they're favored. Yes. We'll get to that one in a little bit and they're favored in the bucks. Thoughts on these guys going down to Florida. Let's save it. We don't even say anything about. We didn't even talk about family with the world Washington, Big Mountain Washington. Yeah. I mean, they haven't yet been done without Pippin without Pippin. He got the foot, right? Yeah, hopefully. I, I, you know, I like where the Steelers are right now. This is, this is the first time we've seen their offense. Look pretty good since Big Ben. Seriously, and not like Big Ben in the end, like Big Ben a few years before the end. Yes, still slippery, still slippery, but it was the end. You know, Aaron Rodgers, he can still whip that thing, taken a lick and keep on taking. It's been impressive. He's taken some hits too. Oh my God. The hit compilation through five weeks. The memes of Aaron Post hit like eyes or they're, they're so prices. They're the best. I love watch. He's the ultimate heel. He sure is. He really is ultimate heel. You need a heel and every point where there's wrestling football, whatever it is, he's a great heel. You love the heel. You hate the heel. It's, it's just good for business. This is a four, man. They got to keep it going. And I think there is strong in that division. Like Cincinnati, yeah, they're doing well. Oh yeah. With their defense, Cleveland's coming back down to life without loss against the Jets last week, Baltimore, Tyler Huntly, Baltimore. They're going to be tough regardless. I think they're in it. That's a four. I think this, a lot of these progress reports are getting put up on the fridge. Although we don't hang band, we don't hang bandage for progress reports though. No, you can't. Will if, will a progress report ever be going on the fridge at your crib? Not a progress report, but a test test. Yes, test. Yes. Report card. Report cards. Yes. Okay. Progress reports. No, it's not time yet. We're not the coats over here. Is there any? There is for this. No. But I like this. Good check in. I think it's good. Check in. I think we had some solid grades. Progress report season. That's right, baby. All right. I'll tell you what these progress reports will dictate. What's that? Who gets to trick or treat? That's right. It was always around that time. School, man. If you got a bad progress report, your parents are going to come down on you for Halloween. Frank don't play. Frank and Edge don't play. Don't play. What was your, was your best Halloween costume as a kid? When I was like, I want to say six. I had a sick Rambo. Wow. With the old time. I had like the rubber chest. Oh, the, the big abs. Yeah, the abs ripped the, the bullets around me. I was going into battle. We're ready. We're ready. We're ready. We're ready. I had the bandana, the blood on the face. Costume to school is awesome. That's a power of costume to school is awesome. Oh, man. All right. Speaking of good progress reports, to have a good progress report, you got to be responsible which brings us to responsible wagers. I have a responsible wagers. It's time to look at some of these lines this week, pick what we like, what we don't like. Did we hit on any last week? All right. Last week. We're pretty responsible with a record of six, two and one, not too bad. Not too bad. Look at us, some responsible guys. You know, responsible people don't get too high on the highs. They don't get too low on the lows. We try to keep it brought pretty steady. Yes. Right. Steadied love steady. That's right. Just like nothing is going on. The season's not over. We are responsible. That's true. We are responsible. And as we always say, it pays to be responsible. It pays to be responsible. First up, Jules. Last night, we were sharing a lovely meal of ospe talking lines over some some delicious spicy rigatone, some bolognese, all the good stuff. Buckley Rob salad, but really good kale salad. That shop kale salad. Unbelieveable. Unbelieveable. I've been thinking about it all morning. And my daughter loves the, the provolone. Oh, that's, that's a thing. That's a 10 out of 10. It's like a mozzarella stick. That's a disc. Yeah. It's like if her frisbee was filled with mozzarella. Baka sash. You did. Unbelievable. But we're talking responsible lines over a beautiful meal. And we kind of came to the decision, Jules, that this is a week of really, really, really tricky lines. Where you say a lot, you know, I, I don't love high spreads. I don't either. I'm with you. I don't like high spreads. There's a national football league. I don't know. Everyone's getting paid. I mean, we saw last week, who was the crazy one last week? I mean, the packers, the packers were, were home dogs. And they went by 30, 30 unbelievable. The commanders a few weeks ago. There were some high ones. This week, Jules, we, we've, we've kind of taken out the machete and slash through the, the brush that is not great lines. We isolated a few here that felt responsible last night. Let's see how we're feeling on them after sleeping on it. Texans, Jags, in London, Jags minus three, leaning toward that in the divisional match, even though the Texans have won three of the last four. How do you feel about that one after sleeping on it? I like the Jags. I like the Jags at home. They're staying there. They play there. Home away from home. They're home away from home. London. Yep. I, I also think they got a little momentum after that, that, that crazy win they had last week against Philly. Right. Does that give you hope or doesn't think that was such a shitty game as a team to come out with a win? Like, that's like, Hey, boys, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta tighten this up. Honestly, like, we can't, we can't just slap it out there and think that we're going to win and, and we got away with one. Oh, big time. We got away with one shout out to Amir Abdulla. But I, I like, I like, I like these jaguars. Same to take care of business against Texan. I know to division battle. I know the Texans just had their best win of the season against the Titans. I know the offense looked as good as it did against the Titans. I know the defense looked pretty good against the Titans. But the jaguars aren't the Titans. No, no, I, I think jaguars just such a well-rounded team. The defense played lights out last week, even though it was against Philly, the special teams made crazy big plays with the backup snapper, who's a defensive tackle, poor and old Rob Ninkovich, emergency snapper out there. Little as a kicker. I mean, these lights out the return to get that last week. I think that's going to give them a shot of momentum. And I think their offense will play a lot better this week. After being acclimated to the time zones. Yes. For a week. They're probably going to go out and get a couple, you know, fishing chips, visit Big Ben on the right day, darn right. You know, maybe hit Hyde Park. God, I love London. You know, oh, my goodness gracious. So I like, I like the jaguars. I just, I do too. Texans. Little foosgold. I'm with your image worth noting with the Jacksonville nine and three against a spread when favored at home under Liam Cohen. So that is a, a stat to keep in mind. Jules, moving up north here. Another one we were, we were talking over Saints on the road at New York, plus one and a half against the Giants in the meadowlands, taken on Jamison Company. Your thoughts, one in four team, what they feel better than one. It's been, it's going to be 52 and sunny right now for kind of, it's been bad weather games for the all up and down East Coast, especially Giants. I like the Giants. Okay. I'm going with the Giants. Okay. This one. It's more of a hard ball, killing more thing. Yep. Giants also came away with one last week. Skataboo and that fumble. Yeah, they got, they have narrowly avoided disaster there. To think that that fumble wasn't the worst play of the game. That's true. That's true. Jayden Daniels and the guys that, oh, watch us, watch me. Skataboo with those, uh, those, those dog commercials, and he's been living right. He's on his paid manning flow right now. No commercial commercial. He must be living right to come out with a tie on that. He must. No gloves. No gloves. Skat. No gloves. Um, okay. I like that. And then we teased this one a little bit earlier. Jules Steelers minus three on the road in Tampa, taken on a buck steam that's coming off a massive win over Dallas. I'm going with the Steelers. I like this. I'm riding with Steelers. Look, their offense has played pretty good to this point of the season. Yep. Like it just looks different. It doesn't look like the Steelers of the last five, six years where we don't have a run game. We don't really have a plant like Mike McCarty knows how to call plays. He knows how to get offense. the lines working together, Bucks big win last week, but you know, it's going to be tough with the undrafted free agent quarterback. I said that last week, even though he played pretty well, you know, it's going to be up to the Steelers and their defense. Let's go D. Let's go D. Let's go D. I do get scared about Bucks run defense against the Steelers, but I think Aaron, older guy in Nice Florida, body's going to be nice and warm. You know, it looks like this is the time here. You go down there. You love going to Florida when you're old. Yes, older player. I'm just telling you, like, you feel way more loose. You're going to have, you know, that clock back. I like the mic, the mic versus Todd Bowles. A little chest match too. Yeah, I do too. That'll be fun. I, I, I'm with you. They know each other. They know each other, but I think the Steelers had just went out to, I think these are three responsible. They're responsible. Responsible guys. Just to wrap this one up Texans Jags, we're taking Jags minus three Saints Giants. We're going to go with the Giants minus one and a half and Steelers Bucks. We're riding Steelers minus three moving on jewels to the over under section of the show. We have isolated three here to review. We can deem some of them irresponsible. We can deem the ones we like responsible. Saints Giants also over under 45 and a half, sunny 54 as we said earlier, that's football weather. These are two teams that can score. They've proven it the last couple of weeks. I'm leaning over here. Your thought to score over 21 and a half. I like over. There's going to be no rain. Yep. I, I, I think. I think Jamis is, is going to get better. Yep. The more time on task. Agree. This is a Giants offense. It's having 21.8 a game. New Orleans 23.6 a game. I like those numbers. Also letting up some points. And in three of their last five, both these teams have gone over that number. So I'm, I'm with you over feels nice and responsible. Nice and responsible. And shook shook was shook last week. Yes. Shook was shook last week, but he knows how to dice him up. Agreed. He knows how to dice him up. We've seen what he can do. Just that defense for Giants, that, that D line. Thank you. Come at you. Hey, can no doubt about it. I like the, I like the over me too. Colts Titans over under 44 and a half. This is a Titans offense that has been struggling to say the least. Colts defense struggling to say the least. It's kind of, I'm, I'm kind of leaning under here because I don't have enough faith in the Colts offense to carry that. And I don't have enough faith in the Titans offense to get us there either against even a, a pretty, I don't want to say weak, but not great indie defense here. Yeah. It's, it's solid is a good play collar. Yeah. I mean, their defense has been solid averaging, you know, around 20 again, letting up. So they're in the middle of the pack. They're not a bad defense by any means. And the Colts, like, they're so up and down on offense. Yeah. Their defense, I mean, their defense isn't great, but Titans offense hasn't been doing really anything. No, I think the Colts win this thing there. This is prime for an under. They're looking for a get back game or get right game, but this feels very undery. Let's, let's lean under here. That's responsible. Yeah. And then last, but certainly not least here, Jules and the over under category Falcons bears. This is, this is a Falcons team that lost a close one last week to Baltimore, as we saw on prime time and a bearers team that just put up seven points on the road in Lambo, very uncharacteristic of a Ben Johnson offense. But it was Tyson Beijing case kingdom split in there. We need the Iceman back is the iceman back. We haven't gotten confirmation yet. This is tough. This was is Penex back. We haven't gotten confirmation there either under I think under all the under or do we deem this irresponsible? It's a little irresponsible, but I'm feeling very ski. I think this is going to be an under. I think so to 48 and a half is high. Yeah, it's just very high. When you saw like Penex, when he's healthy, he's good, but he's got ribs. He's going to be thinking about that ribs. He's going to be sped up with his quarterback clock. And like if they have to go to Tua, I don't think that's the, you know, I don't think they're going to get. I don't think that's the answer for anything good. No offense to Tua. No offense to Tua. And Chicago's offense looked struggle bus last week. It sure did. And I can expect them to probably have a better showing, but I don't think they're going to light it up. I think they're, their confidence is shook from last week. It sure is. I mean, going on the road and getting, getting stunned by green Bay, you're our travel there. Yeah. That's, that's going to take a lot to come back from Ben Johnson said there are a lot of things we're addressing right now. No determination has been made in terms of what direction we are going. Well, I'll tell you if Caleb's not playing, they got to play case, he got to play case from the jump. Come on. Come on, Ben, don't get cutesy with it. You're getting too cute. Too cute to you with it. All right. Way too cute. Way too cute. I was 11 for 11 against the blitz the week before, like two weeks ago. I mean, he was perfect. Ride the hot hand, man. I mean, that's what Bill did. Yes, with Brady. Yeah. Look at that turned out turned out pretty good. Yeah. And I mean, a lot of people are saying case kingdoms, kind of like the new Tom Brady. Sure. I'm kidding. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Saints giants. We like the over in that one. Colts, Titans. We like the under in that one. And Falcons bears stick with the under no matter who's playing quarterback. I like that. Three for three on responsibility there. We are responsible. Oh my God. And last jewels. We got to get to our slot receiver prop of the week. I'm having full tunnel vision here. Jalen Waddle over under 50 and a half yards. Strike it from the record. Cooper cup over under 21 and a half yards. I am locking in on JSN over 90 and a half yards. This thing is talking to me like the green goblin mask. Like this is calling my name. Yeah. I don't even want to look at these other two. What do you think about that? He's got an ankle. Got the ankle, but no poster tan, maybe, no moss, maybe Huffunga. We don't know. I he's a lot of yards. It's a lot of yards, but look what he's done. 122, 155, 128 and 102 in games this season. Only one game has gone under this number. And that was against LA 78 yards. Yeah. That's right with JSN. Do we deem it responsible? We deem it. We deem it responsibly. Yes, baby responsibly. All right, but I know I got a little overzealous here. Jalen Waddle over under 50 and a half yards, Cooper cup over under 21 and a half yards or others we were looking at. Where do you lean on those jewels? It's just tough with the cup. It is. It hadn't been a huge factor so far. Just 11 catchers through five weeks. Yeah, I'm going with JSN because you know they're going to try to get him the ball. Agreed. I like that Waddle one. 50 is a manageable number because I mean, with Sean Peyton taking over play calling, I think that's even more responsible than JS. Oh, okay. It's back on the right. It's back, baby. I like just because they got to get him going. I was going to say, I think there will be, it's almost like an internal memo in the offensive room. Let's get Jalen going point of emphasis here 1000%. I think they'll be forcing them a little bit, but in a good way for us. Hopefully if we take this one and even like if they get them screens and you know, he gets five or four screens, he's going to pop one for at least 15 creative with you. I think Sean, I think the Waddle is the play. I think so too. All right. So Waddle, where do we, where do we stand on JSN? Responsible or irresponsible? I think it's responsible. Okay. But it's not as responsible. Yes. So we're two for three here. Coop will leave you sitting on the back burner here, irresponsible. Just not enough sample size to tell. I don't know. Yeah. It not really worked in the offense quite enough. All right. So we're two for three on these. That was very responsible of us. Very responsible. Oh, my goodness gracious. What an episode. What an episode. Thanks again to Christian Watson. And remember, Ron can I will be back Monday. Subscribe to the Grunk and Jewel Show on Apple podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcasts. We'll see you guys then.