CHRIS SULLIVAN Got Sent Home From Disneyland

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And Axel kind of looks like what a sheep dog would look like if he was a person who got his hair cut. - Yeah, I think that's fair. - The two of them are thickest thieves. And just like listening to him talk, and it's very sweet, and dad has a lot of kinship with Axel. And I think that this is just really hammered that home. Like, yeah, how happy was it? And just, you know, Axel would be like, I'm gonna take Albert outside to throw the tire to a little tiny, not a full size tire, but a little plastic tire. And it was great. It was, that was wonderful. Axel got in a little trouble with mom. Can I tell you what? - Sure, yeah, please. - We watched Dumb and Dumber. Axel thought it was so funny that he laughed so loud every time he laughed, mom would go, oh, Jesus. So the boys came home and Alexey asked him how was the trip. And that's, of course, that's their headline. - Is that mom got mad at Axel for laughing? - Not that mom got mad, but Axel was like, yeah, Axel laughs too hard for punk or hurry. And it's so funny because mom would say, like, well, that's just my whatever-- - My startle reflex. - Startle reflex. And I'm like, yeah, that's what laughter is too. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, Axel's also, he's startled by how funny Dumber Dumber is. - Yeah. - By the way, Dumber Dumber is very funny. - Oh, it's great. It's real. - But I also knew our parents would be a little snobby about it. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, I knew mom would be down on it. Also, the choices were that are Billy Madison and halfway through she goes, what happened to the Billy Madison plan? I'm like, you wouldn't like Billy Madison? - Yeah, this wasn't either or. - Yeah. - It's so, there are a lot of things, a lot of like, cultural things that come out, TV shows, movies, and they're very popular. And then mom watches them. She's like, I didn't like it at all. And I was like, yeah, you should have asked me. I would have told you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That was not for you, everything's not for me. - They did like, we also watched Happy Gilmore. They did like enjoy that. So, maybe I'm wrong, maybe they would have liked Billy Madison. But by the way, it's Dumber Dumber. I mean, here we're turning this into a movie, rewatch podcast, but there's so many good jokes in Dumber Dumber. I mean, there's so many dumb jokes. Like, I knew they weren't gonna like, you know, a diarrhea scene. - Right. - But there's also some really, really well crafted jokes. - Yeah. Yeah, mom, mom really, she leans into action. She wants like, yeah, action flicks these days. And when I was home, Mackenzie was there too. And dad's like, hey, maybe we should watch a movie tonight and mom just goes, ice fall, ice fall. Yeah, I'm like, where are you talking about your ice fall? It's Joel Keniman. He's a fiffy, toughy boy. He's in the ice. And we watch ice fall. It was like, I don't know where, but she read some headline in the Boston Globe that said ice fall was out. And she wanted to be one of the first watchers of it. And so yeah, we rock, that's fine. - We watch one, though. Again, the other great thing about mom and dad is they are, they still read newspapers. They get three newspapers every day. Wall Street Journal, Boston Globe and New York Times. So it is just so many newspapers, piles of newspapers and they actually read through the whole newspaper. - Yeah. - There's nothing that they miss in the world. - No, they do like that news quiz at the end of the week. They make us administer for home. We have to read the news quiz to them. But if they see something, yeah, they're like old school the way like criticism used to work in a newspaper, which was like, this is a good thing. We watched this Bob Odenkirk. Now I got to look it up when he was normal. - Normal, yeah. And again, it was what mommy would call, he's a, yeah, Bob Odenkirk plays a toughy boy and he's got to fight off the bad things. This is how she would review it. If you get a newspaper that she's a journalist in. But it was great. - It really was, I mean, it was hit in a way that really sort of surprised all of us. Like who's really laughing and, yeah. Do love Odenkirk. It's, yeah, it's really good. I mean, Bob's great. Obviously, friend of the pond. The other thing that's really funny though is, it is one of those shows, movies. The heroes are cornered off and, you know, as good writing would make you leave you leave. The amount mom was like, what are they gonna do? (laughing) - Yeah, she was very-- - And so our running joke the whole time was like, I think they're screwed. - Yeah, this probably it. - Turned it off? - Yeah. And it is the time we were home and the time I was home. Again, nothing's better than being home when it's a hot redsock summer and it's currently a hot redsock summer. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And it's really, it's a good ol' throwback to summers of our youth when the redsocks are decent and that's kind of a nice, you know, two and a half hour chunk every evening, it's really great. - Yeah, I will say there's, I mean, to get very in the weeds on this right now, I switched them over to sort of televisions where they have one remote for each TV. You used to have multiple, they'd have to change the input. - And man, let me just shout out Josh real quick. New remote, also a printout, you print it out how the remote works. - Yeah. - So there's like a piece of paper. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And I also, to both of them, I would say, how are you holding the remote? Let me see, it's designed to be held in your right hand so that that right thumb can press the volume down because they would typically hold it in one hand and sort of come down on top of it. - Yeah. - By the way, they're not built for two hands. - Yeah. But there has been a disagreement between Nesson, the New England sports network that has the redsocks games and YouTube TV. And because of that, you have to get Nesson 360, which is its own sort of streaming thing, but you can't pause or record on Nesson 360. But this allows you to not record a game, which to me is better because then you can go watch a movie or you can go watch a show and you come back and you just pick up the game in the sixth inning. You don't have to go to the third inning and like catch up. What you missed, you missed and it is to me a gift. I second this 100%. Like dad was like, can you pause the game? I'm like, sure, I can pause the game. I think we watch a movie. And he's like, should we go to the beginning of the game and I'm like, it's too too in the sixth. (laughing) He's like, okay, let's just do, let's just live our life now. - Yeah. - Let's be in the presence of sports as well. - Yeah, because when those games are over like I'm fighting to keep my eyes open for the end of a baseball game. not because I think baseball is boring because it end they end late and I'm really - Ready for bed. - Yeah, yeah. - How old do we sound right now? - I know. You bought them in new TV and I heard the first week you had the new TV, it blew over and broke, yeah. But now it's held by a wire, but yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - I'm just gonna say, you have been doing like, you've been updating Mom and Dad's house in a way that's really noble. - Yeah, I mean, next time I have neither the aptitude or patience for this. And so I mostly just comes from place grace. I am so happy I wasn't there on the day you found out that the TV you'd set up had blown over in the wind 'cause it's on an outdoor porch, screening porch. - Yeah. - It blew over and broke. - Yeah. - So, that was a bummer. But yeah, next time I go home, new washing machine, new fridge, it's all happening. - Amazing. - Yeah. 'Cause that's maybe the worst fridge in the world. - There. (laughing) - It's nuts. - You can't explain why it's the worst fridge and I can't believe what a bad fridge it is. - Yeah, it's, you basically have to like sit on the floor anytime you want to look in the refrigerator to try and find something. - Yes. - It's very low and also I would say their fridge is 92% half-filled jars of stuff. (laughing) - Yeah. - It's a very jar forward. Very jar forward and there's no, it's not like, oh, all the like sauces are like, you know, jellies and spreadables, those are gonna be on one section. Everything can be anywhere. - Yep, there's no rhyme or reason to it. - If you take it off the top shelf, you might as well put it back in the bottom shelf. So that the person who put it in the top shelf will not be able to find it the next time they look for it. - Yeah. - It's a real, it's a real Frankenstein's fridge. - It's a real like, Igor, go get, we're, we need a ear, it's like, it's just jars. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. Also I feel like, sorry, my mom and dad just apologized. I know the bird going in pretty hard here. There's a thing where like, they get lunch meat. - Mm-hmm. - Or, you know, deli meats, deli cheeses. And like, the bag gets low and they're like, I gotta get more turkey. So they get more turkey. And then the lamp, there's like a bag with two slices of turkey and they don't throw that one out. They just stack the new turkey on top. So that, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying like, if you're ever a mom and dad's house and you're like, oh, there's, oh, thank God, there's some salami at the bottom. Like, don't eat that salami. (laughing) But the boy's actually ate more bacon in two days than I think is probably, okay. - Yeah. - I got him a new, a new like bacon cooker as well. - Yeah. - A son of the year. - And you pointed out, you're like, hey, is this plastic thing that's like bubbling? Should this, you think this is a good idea? - Yeah. - It's better. Well, you've done this better and I'm very happy to announce I'm a silver medal for me. - Oh, you got silver. - There you go. - I'm silvering. - Congrats. - Very exciting conversation for everybody today. We got Chris joining us. Yeah, he's got the, that was us, rewatch podcast. Very popular. Just a, I mean, we talk about it right off the bat, but a smooth, smooth voice that you could listen to. Smooth operator. - Yeah. - And some great stories and yeah, fun, fun childhood. - Enjoy everybody. - Love you, Jimmy. - Love you, love you. ♪ Family trips with the miles brothers ♪ ♪ Family trips with the miles brothers ♪ ♪ Here we go ♪ - Hey. Hey, man. - All right. - Very nice. - How are you? - Good, how are you doing, Chris? - Very well, thank you. - I'm very excited. - Let's get smooth. Sometimes voices are so smooth, right off the jump that I just have to draw attention to it. - Oh, just let's just talk about it today. - I just feel like everybody right now, anybody right now is in a long car ride. They're like, oh, I'm in safe hands. - I feel like it's better on a microphone. I feel like I'm more grading in person, but I have that sound people. - I've heard in person, it's very grading. They say the difference is jarring. It's more nasal, feels nasal. - If you first hear Chris on a microphone, try everything you can not to meet him in person. - Yeah. It's like talking to a grandmother in person. - Yes. - Like a cartoonish. - Shrill. - Yeah. - It's like very shrill and loud. - Unwrapping hard candies. - I gotta give you, before we get into this, Chris, I wanna give you a quick shout out. I believe you were on it. That was us podcast. Our father came on for Operation Delta Dog, a charity that he cares deeply about. - Yes. - And a lot of his retirement energy and two. And you had an episode that dealt with some PTSD stuff. And you guys were nice enough to let him come on and give his spiel and I think it really helped the organization and it's my father's always just looking to spread the word about this charity that sort of pairs, mostly vets with dogs that are rescued out of shelters and just saves a lot of people's lives and makes life better for the dogs and certainly better for the vets. And you guys gave him a platform. So thank you so much for that. - Yeah, of course. You beat me to the punch. I've been a huge fan of your podcast. And we had Seth on on our podcast in early days. And when we had the chance to have your dad on, we jumped at it 'cause the four of you, your mom included are an excellent, excellent team. - Thank you. And my mom really appreciates any time my dad can talk about Delta dogs when she's not within ear shots. - Yes, yeah. - Not because she doesn't love the organization. I would say she's heard the spiel. Would you say that's accurate, Posh? - Yeah, that's fair. Also, it's very, yeah. - Yeah, I'm sorry, I cut you off there. But I am at home right now. I'm in my childhood bedroom. This is where the magic didn't happen. - Oh, we'll get him in there. - Yeah. - He's not here, they're out, they're walking the dog. - They're walking the dog. - There you go. So Sacramento, young Chris is in Sacramento. - That's correct, grew up right there in the middle. - Right there in the middle. And start it. - And you started in Palm Desert in India, famously sort of Coachella territory, but not really, do you have memories from being out there? - Back in the 1980s, the Coachella Valley was still the Wild West. It was a 127 degrees the day I was born. There was nothing out there. We lived in a little house with no central AC and my parents drove a VW bug with no AC. And it was literally the Wild West. My dad was a city planner for Palm Desert. And he tells stories about meetings with handguns on tables and burnt out Cadillacs and the desert and all kinds of wild stuff. So we moved up to Sacramento when I was six years old. - All right. - Gotcha. And your brother is four years older than you? Or four years younger? Okay, gotcha. So you're a six year old and a two year old moved to Sacramento. And do you have, do you remember feeling sad about leaving India or was it not of the age where you had a connection? - No, I think before the age of reason, it was just a new adventure. And yeah, we, I don't even remember really having any. - I don't really remember having any friends or anything until we talk about that. - And that's why they had a brother and we were like here. Just by blood, you have to, this has to be done. - I'm taking my friend and I'm going north. - Yeah, there you go. Did you guys drive? Was that a move that you did in the car? - Yeah, I remember loading the giant, you know, big rig of a moving van and we drove, whatever it is, the seven or eight hours. I'm Sacramento. And yeah. - And a little, gold river was your neighborhood subdivision? - Yeah. Yeah, it was, you know, kind of, it was a tract housing. You know, we were one of four different models of home there on like the American river. So it was still, it was wild because it was, it was a little pleasant village, but at the same time they were developing near the American river. So our neighborhood was filled with like, packs of wild turkey and rattlesnakes and jack rabbits and deer and so it was an adventurous place to the land. And was there, was that an exciting, like, was it exciting to see rattlesnakes as a kid? - Yeah, it was terrifying. - Yeah, we had a, it was, for us kids, it was exciting, which was a problem for the adults. - Sure. - And there was a team of like two or three dads with garden tools who were like on call, who were like the neighborhood rattlesnake, either removal or or extermination? Whisperers? I don't think they call them rattlesnake. Whisperers, right? Yeah. Whisperers, that's right. Yeah. They would come with like panpipes and flutes and looting out. Just like an Irish fella who would like drive a map. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just dance them into the river and the river just washes them away. That's right. That's right. That's right. City planning seems like such a specific job. Did he take a similar job in Sacramento? He took a vice presidential role in a home building company who was who was also building like large scale tract on it. Got it. So yeah, he he studied urban planning and development in college as did my brother. And so yeah, it was a step in the in the more residential. Did he? Do you think they had a second kid? Because they were like, I think Chris isn't going to be into planning. Yeah. This kid is this kid is too emotional. Yeah. Also, he just lined up his matchbox car. They're pointing every direction. Yeah. You can't get anything together. Have you seen his legos as a mess? It's somebody a little more level headed. And they got it. And they got it. All right. They got it. Yeah. Do you think, uh, I mean, I imagine if your dad got into that game as a as a VP of that company in the 80s, there must be whole communities in the Sacramento area that he was sort of very played a big role in playing. Could you go and be like, this is my dad. This is my dad. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's there's they're all over California actually. He was the the home building company stretched from from SoCal all the way to North Cal. And uh, and so yeah, there are entire, I'd say about a dozen different cities that he used to to visit growing up, to visit all of his communities. My my my father-in-law is a home builder in New Mexico. And so there's, I think there's there's three roads that are named after his children, their middle names. And I remember, what a minute. I'm driving me out. I'd be like, look, there's, there's Lyndon Av or whatever. It's you could know our middle name's Lyndon. But, um, but it's funny because she showed me as an adult and I was like, all right. You know what I mean? But then we had kids. And I will say our kids think it's the coolest thing in the world. There's a street named after their mother. Now that I know this is a possible bit, my father's going to be the first phone call after I get off. And you'd be like, yeah, where's my street? I mean, uh, because by the way, Sullivan, like Chris, you can't have a Chris Street. That seems like somebody didn't even try, but Sullivan. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. What's your middle name? Is your middle name a good street name? Joseph Christopher Christopher Street Christopher Street. Oh, yeah, yeah. Christopher Street. Also Sullivan Street is a, you know, I'll take a lane. I'll take a cul-de-sac. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Christopher Sack. What, uh, the American river, uh, was that something that you would play in? Was it so big? Could you forward that river? Was it like, hey, stay out of the river. This is dangerous. What's the one of the first things they teach you when you move near the river is forwarding? Okay. One one side to the other. A lot of river rafting, a lot of crawfish, hunting. I was a boy scout growing up. So we spent a lot of time canoeing, kayaking, rafting, a lot of outdoor time. And yeah, the river was kind of central. And Folsom Lake was kind of at the top of our section of the river. So Folsom Lake was also kind of a draw. I don't know. I mean, I'm a very skittish parent. And I don't know what I would be more afraid of. Kids like living in Snake Country or kids living by a river. Like, did your parents, were your parents like safety conscious, like drilling into the head of you and your brother, like how dangerous your surroundings were, or were they more like kids in the 80s? Like, go nuts. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't seem bothered. I'm not realizing I have a lot to talk to my parents about. It should have been, it should have been more bothered. One, you should have been more bothers. Two, two, where's my street name? But you, I mean, you followed through you, you're an eagle scout, correct? That's correct. That is correct. Yeah. What age is that? When does it culminate eagle scout? Like, when you officially, you know, it's a race. It's a race to beat puberty is what it is. Because as you get older, you're like, the more older, the older you get, you're like, boy scouts, huh? You're still a boy scout. And you have to kind of like beat, you have to beat your interest in girls to eagle scout. And so. Well, it's funny. One of my closest friends was an eagle scout. And he not, you know, he didn't just beat it for himself. I do remember he beat it for his peer group. Like, we went. Yeah. It felt like what I believe a modern bar mitzvah is. It was a huge shindig when he got eagle scout. And you're right. Like six months later, we would have been like, that's right. And luckily, you know, there's this troop in Sacramento, at least when I was growing up, that had really involved parents who were all very outdoorsy hunters, fishermen. Yes, right. There was, there was even a husband, a wife team that were professional survivalists. And so they kept us really interested. And we got to do really cool things a lot of like rock climbing. And like 50 mile backpack trips. And, and so there was a group of like four or five of us who all made it to eagle scout around the age of 16. And three of those guys went on to be like special forces in the, in the military. Like, they all took that kind of, you know, one of my best friends, Ryan became a lieutenant colonel in, in the Marine Corps. So like, it is funny when you think about like, what do you want out of your Marines? You don't want someone who like, you know, was smoking cigarettes at 14. You want a 14 year old who was like, learning how to tie knots. You don't want to say that we below. Yeah. Oh man. You don't want that. Yeah. You don't want to come. But it is funny, like how often, like a cool adult in order to reach that zenith had to be like kind of dorky at certain points in their youth in order to have the things that were important. Like again, you know, you don't, you want to, if you're stuck, if you're playing goes down and you have to go in a survivalist mode, you want somebody who was like, that's right. I got all the badges. Well, you guys were, while you were snickering, we got all the badges. Yeah. Someone who was eventually flying helicopters at like a, at like a presidential level. Yeah. And his childhood's been a lot of time in a Kirchief. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He got, he gets to look cool now. Yeah. Cause he, yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Quince. Hey, my. Hey, you know, those pieces in your closet, you find yourself wearing on repeat, the sweater that goes with everything, the perfect pair of pants or the T, you somehow always reach for first. Those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy. And that's what Quince does best. My brother-in-law does not use Quince. Tolia, Pasha, you know, yeah. 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We went on a couple of camping trips, but I think kind of the biggest, or the most kind of epic, first family outdoor trip that we took was to Yosemite, which was about four hours away from Sacramento, and it was like entering Middle Earth as a, as a 12-year-old, you know, it was like landing on another planet if, and if, if, I think I've heard it's gotten a little over, over populated these days, but if, and if you haven't been to Yosemite, it's worth the, uh, the trip. So that's a 12-and-a-eight-year-old, and you're both equally excited about Yosemite, like was, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna go. Yeah, bikes, hiking, running around in the rivers, all that stuff is great. Were you, uh, were you camping? Were you intense for that? Yes. Yeah, we did. Well, car camping, you know, you pull right up to the, up to the spot and pitch your tent and cook all your food over. In one of those, uh, they're those campgrounds sort of in, I think it's the valley of the giants, and it's like, upper, upper pine, lower pine, and not the pre-set-up tents. We brought our own tent setups. Yeah. There's like, there's like three options at Yosemite. You can stay at the hotel or in like the canvas, uh, nice, what, what would, I guess, be considered glamping, although it's, yeah, you're, you're kind of things, they're not full yards, but they're, yeah. Yeah. And then bring your own stuff and, and use the barebox type camping. Yeah. Yeah. The barebox is, uh, that's where you keep your food that the bear can't get in. Yeah. It's like a big hope chest for your hot dog ones. Fantastic. See again. And this is, uh, the difference between Josh and I, the minute you say there's something called a barebox. I'm out. Well, yeah, why don't we need a barebox? Yeah. Is that a, is so everybody gets a free bear? Is there a bear in the house? Yeah. Yeah. So we don't have to worry because the bears in the box, you know, you keep the, you keep the bears in the box, right? The bear is put themselves in a box. They lock it on the inside and then you ride them up the trails. Yeah. That's right. Um, were you, uh, at, at 12 and 12 and eight, were you, uh, were you going on, like big hikes, were you, uh, getting out of that valley? Yeah. Yeah. We would, we would make it, make it up to the falls or, or, you know, nothing terribly long for, for, um, my brother, but, you know, I was, I was off most of the day by myself. You know, I'd take, I'd take the bike and my, my bike and put Pearl Jam on the headphones and. Oh, yes. Just, just, just, man, just, just feel it, feel it all. It is. So again, you think about it, like how cool, like, again, when Pearl Jam is making those out, I'm so cool. And then, like, a lot of people are listening to him and while they're not doing cool shit. That's right. That's right. Is that how they're getting when they're getting huge air on their, on their, on their track. You know, I remember, uh, when I was in high school and Pearl Jam was big, uh, I tried to get tickets to a Pearl Jam show just by calling ticket master over and over and over. That sort of day they went on sale. And I told my, like, first girlfriend ever, I was like, Hey, I got tickets to Pearl Jam. She was like, you did? And I was like, what? And it was just like she didn't think I was cool enough to even get tickets. Oh, but you got through. Like really? You actually got through to ticket master. I think I do, but then I don't think we, we went. Yeah. I have no memory of you going to see Pearl Jam. I will say at that, at that age, it is impressive that you figured out like who to call, how to call, how to pay. Yeah. Well, maybe I didn't, maybe I didn't get through it. Maybe I'm remembering it. It does, yeah. But I, I'm confident that, uh, my, my girlfriend at the time, uh, I was like, no, that's not. And I'm confident. It's, it sounds like she was right. Yeah. Like the more you tell the story, you're like, and then she didn't believe in me. We're like, did you get tickets? You're like, I don't think so. I started with, she didn't believe in me. I bought a Pearl Jam CD. That's what it was. That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was. But I couldn't play it on my tape deck. Did you, uh, were you and your brother close with a four year age gap? You know, it was just wide enough to be combative at times. You know, we never were at the same school, uh, at the same time. Um, but yeah, that, that window in the 12th to eight was where we were able to kind of cross over and, and be interested and, and capable. I think capabilities were, were similar. It is nice. I think when I watch my oldest and my youngest, which is three and a half, I think she loves, obviously, hanging out with an older sibling and he kind of digs how he gets to be exponentially cooler than he is amongst his own age group. And so I, I guess I think 12 and eight might be the peak of that again. Yeah. A lot changes with puberty from what I hear. Yeah. Yeah. I've got, I've got a six year old and a three year old. So gotcha gotcha. Yeah. Boys girls. What do you have? We have a six year old boy named bear, uh, and, uh, and, uh, three year old lady named IFA. IFA. It is IFA an Irish name. It is. It is. It's all vowels except for the F. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Everybody sound off in the comments. How do you think it's spelled? Because based on all Irish spellings, it's not what you think. How is IFA spelled? A-O-I-F-E. Oh, come on out. Where's it? How'd you know? I don't know. I don't know. - How'd you land on that? - Well, there was a lot of debate. I'll tell you that much. - You had some extra money. - The no one's just like, "Epha." Yep, "Epha." - Yeah, it was a name. My wife and I took part of our honeymoon in Ireland and it was a name that we heard. It's a historical queen of Ireland. And the name in Ireland is actually fairly common. It's almost like a Jennifer in Ireland. - Right. - And we went back and forth and back and forth and tried to, should we show it to our friends? How would you say this name? How would you pronounce this name? And certain people had heard it before. There's a cup. There's a wonderful musician named Eva O'Donovan who some people had heard of. But the first time we took Eva out in public, she was born in October. In December, my alma mater invited us to like a Christmas tree lighting ceremony at Loyal and Marymount. And the Alumni Association made name tags for the whole family. And the lady who was handing out our name tags goes Chris and Rachel. And there's one for Little Bear and Adolf? (laughing) - I mean, it's a beautiful name. And I think little Adolf is gonna learn a lot. - My wife's face, she was holding her and just she just walked away. She's like, "Here's the worst case scenario. "Here's the worst case scenario for the baby with this name." But this woman thought what? That someone was taking the name back? - Yeah. - No, we're reclaiming it. - We're reclaiming it. - And we thought the best way to reclaim it would be to give it to a little girl. - Little girl, yeah, little girl. - I will say Eva when, 'cause at some point, you're gonna. - I apologize in advance for this. You're gonna get a little griefa. But, especially because you gave your son like a real, I mean, you gave your son the easiest to spell. - Yes. - Yeah. - You could have at least given him the Irish spelling of bear, which I'm sure has like no E or A. - Or B. - Or B. - Yeah. But that is, it is very funny. Like, bear an efa is really, I mean, just like two different sets of parents came up with those. - Yes, yeah. - Really fun. - I like that there was a queen, so there's a queen efa, which is so in Ireland, correct? - Yes, yes. - What do you think I think every time I hear queen efa? - Posh. - Queen efa? - I just think queen Latifa, 'cause it's pretty good. - Mm-hmm, yeah. - And you thought I would lock into that? - I kinda did, but again, you already give me a thumbs down for my griefa joke. I mean, might not be in sync today, Poshy. - Yeah, maybe not. (laughing) So other, did you have grandparents that were nearby, or where were they? - You know, I only ever met one grandparent. - Okay. - And she was nearby, but she never really traveled with us. She was older by the time, by the time we were living in Sacramento. So yeah, the generationally speaking, generally, generationally speaking, the Irish don't tend to spread out too far. - The generations tend to pass away a little sooner for some reason. - Yeah. (laughing) - So what were other trips that you would take if they weren't Yosemitee, weren't camping things? Would you guys go anywhere? - We went, my mom grew up in Southern California, so we did our annual Disneyland trips. Almost every year we would go. There's, a lot of them were really wonderful. There's still one that's kind of epic that I still, I love to talk about because I didn't understand it for a long time until I became a parent. They woke us up at four in the morning, getting the car. You go for the seven hour drive from Sacramento to Disneyland. By the time we got to Disneyland, my and my brother were such a problem that my mom was like, "If you don't knock it off, I'm gonna pack up and go home." And of course, we didn't believe that. We literally pull our luggage into the hotel room and we are so nuts bouncing off the walls, bouncing off the beds. We packed up the car and drove seven hours back to Sacramento. (laughing) I couldn't believe it. I was like, "It happened." - Wow, I mean, by the way, I have so much respect for your parents because one thing, and Josh will second this, we do not follow through on threats in the mind. (laughing) - It was the biggest follow-through of all time. - It's on because of the personal cost. - Yeah. - To them. - Yes. - No. - Okay, I still can't believe it. - Were you, because I think one of the reasons we would not follow through on this threat is I think the capacity for certainly my middle axel to scream for seven hours is bottomless. But it seems to me that maybe they got you in absolute shock that it was happening. Not a peep for seven hours back home. The quietest, most uncomfortable car ride, you can imagine. - Now, do you think, in the future, do you think this paid off? This is the part I want to hear. Do you think that the fact that you then knew 100% that paid off? - Yeah, just, oh my God. This is sudden. - Lesson learned. - I know. I'm so impressed. I wish I could do it. (laughing) - Do you think there was a moment, like maybe the first 15 minutes or half hour that you were like, this isn't work? This, they're just trying to get control of the situation. Or do you think you knew right away? Like, oh, they. - I think I knew right away. I think I knew. - And it was your mom, your mom was the hammer? - Yeah, it was my mom. It was like, this is different. Oh, this is different. - Was she always sort of the disciplinarian? - Yeah, yeah. I mean, she had taken a break from working to raise us. And so she was definitely the front line of those types of movements, yeah. They were rare, but I guess you only need the one. - That's amazing, that's like burning your hand on the stove. It's like, yeah, and do it once and it's like, I got it. - That's right. That's the degree of burn. - Do you recall like what exactly you and your brother were doing, or you were just super excited and you just made terrors? - Yeah, like WWE off the top rope, you know, one bed to the other, you know, just, and there must, I mean, don't give me wrong. As every parent knows, what everybody else sees and remembers is the last moment, but they don't see all the little cracks along the way. - Yeah, so everything looks irrational when you're like carrying your child over your shoulder at a park, throw it in. - Yes. - Looks like a kidnapping? Well, it looks like a kidnapping to other people. You're like, no, no, no, this was a long time ago. - Well, that's the thing about once you have kids, you're like, I see a dude like dragon a kid by the back out of the shirt. I'm like, 100% asking for it. - Yeah. - You watch like some 21 year old being like, you're not allowed to do that. I'm like, you shut up. - Yeah, no, no, no. - My job business. - All right, so now we'll let you get to other trips, but we have to sort of. - No, as I was making my list of notes, which we appreciate. - Yeah. - For any other future guests. - I still to this day, I almost can't believe how great this trip was because it seems ill-conceived, but it was one of our greatest trips. My mom is really good at planning family trips. And this one seemed like a misstep, but it worked. And we went as a family of four when I was 21, so that made my brother 18, 19, to Las Vegas. And at the time, I was like, well, that's not a place you go with your parents, that it's a place to party and a place to do whatever people do in Vegas. I don't know if people do in Vegas. I've heard that strange things happen in Vegas. And it turned out to be an incredible trip. - Well, how old again, were you, sorry? - I was like 21, 22. The age of like, I'm not going to Vegas with my parents. And, but they're paying for it and we're going to go and it's going to be a great thing. - That's it, we just did a live taping and somebody was like, what's the secret? Why, how did your parents get you to take vacations than when you were adults and were like paid for it? - Yeah, that's not a good fancy place. - And they'd do a good place and they'd pay for it and we would go because we were at that age, right? We were young actors and, you know. - Yeah, we stayed at the New York, New York, you know, and they offered my brother a night. They said, we are going to give you $100 a day to gamble with, gamble with it? Don't gamble with it, do what you want. And we were there for a week. We were there for seven days and we're like, this is okay. All right, and so every morning we'd wake up, we'd have breakfast, we'd go and as a family, we would find the $5 a hand blackjack tables and we would kind of take over the table and we play a little blackjack, and then. We saw all the shows and we saw all the we ate all the great food and then my mom surprised us a limousine picked us all up and took us to Las Vegas motor speedway where we all got to do eight laps in an open wheel indie racer. We happen to see that one of our one of my favorite bands at the time this Irish punk band named Flogging Molly was playing at the house of news and so we went and saw them my dad my dad and I went and my brother went and saw them and like I was like oh there's a lot of things going on during the day in Vegas. There's a lot of fun things to do and yeah we did it posh we did it yeah we we had sort of both been to Vegas you know as young men and and sort of done that and then our parents were we're coming out to Los Angeles to visit me and I forget if you are already in L.A. at that point Seth just for the summer maybe but we ran it a big car and we went out there and I like I've never felt better in Los Angeles and Las Vegas. We would wake up not hungover like they want that extra oxygen in and it's like so now like haven't been drinking to a point of like wicked inebriation and I just feel better and we would go to a spa we played golf we would like sit at the pool and ordered food and like have lunch out there we'd gamble a little we'd see a show and it's really like oh this this is different and this is lovely yeah yeah so much going on. Yeah truly would when you got the hundred dollars a day would that be given an alump sum at the beginning of the week or was that every morning you would get every morning every that's how they that's how they keep you around well yeah I mean that's smart that's good policy so when you later as an actor God Pradeem you're like wow this is like going to Vegas with your parents and everybody else is like what are you talking about just like Vegas bad Cooper's great. This is if it were you like surprise I mean again this is so much about I mean first of all we when we know your mom we've established she's the hammer but now we see that she's also the velvet gloves because yeah I mean just taking such good care were you surprised your mom was like I know your favorite band and I have booked this or were you surprised when your mom's like we're going to race card laps. I was surprised that she picked Vegas. So everything after that was just more surprised. Yeah the Vegas period was like this is the choice huh I like I we had gone we had taken a family trip a few years earlier when I graduated high school to Hawaii which was a big you know the big trip of those couple years and there was always the trips were always well so well planned that it. I mean I guess I'm not even realizing how well planned they are until you know I am now having to I'm on the verge of you know there's no vacations there's no vacations with a six year old and a three year old there's only relocations yeah let's take off let's take all of this equipment and we'll move it over to this city and it's it's a six this the right the success is just it's not about any of the joy it's just that you actually successfully executed. We've done it we found a new interesting place to eat snacks yeah and and so yeah just picking Vegas itself was kind of I was like wow kind of punk rock nice mom all right yeah. Yeah would I would you say that she when it was over padded herself on the back for what a rad yeah yeah and we did do I think I think it was like one of the first maybe like adult moments where we looked at a parent like you know this was great yeah this was really nice. Where were you living at the time were you away at school where was I living at the time I think I might have been on tour okay so I write I might have been right before after after college I knocked around L.A. for a bit trying to you know. Being actor and ended up only getting theater gigs ironically enough and then hit the road with a broadway one man show called defending the caveman sure yeah that I toured on and off of for four years that eventually landed me in in Chicago where we were wondering how you found your way to I.O. So it was with the game yeah yeah so after after we did a few laps around the country playing like big feeders like like 2500 3000 seat theaters and then and the audiences started to get smaller and smaller I ended up at doing sit down run at a theater called the Lake Shore theater at Broadway and Belmont. I think it's a laugh factory now and I did like a year long run in that like 300 seat theater. So a sit down a sit down run is a touring show that that basically parks somewhere that yeah yeah we we parked it there for as long as we could sell tickets and then by the end of that run I was like I'm not leaving this is I live here now and yeah that's fantastic. So defending the caveman had a real moment where I feel like that was a you know a show whether or not you saw yeah you know it was I don't know it was like a it was like that book men are for Mars right yeah exactly where it was right on the heels of that that era right and it was it was also at the end of the 80s comedy boom yeah and the the author Rob Becker kind of like was was a standup comedian in the 80s and then as the boom was ending he decided well right. These comedy clubs are closing I'm going to write a show that I can do and he would take it to comedy clubs and say don't close let me do my show here and he would keep he kept he kept a comedy club and Dallas open for like six months longer than than it was supposed to be and then they upgraded to a small theater in Chicago and then it went to Broadway for however many years and then he toured it around the country for another decade and the man I mean. God love them the man owns 30 acres in Marin County so yeah and so how many when you how many shows would you do in a year when you were touring with the show like that I mean I performed it over I performed it over a thousand times wow in the in the four years yeah and was it I and did you feel like you got to see the country by doing it in a way that was enjoyable or was it all work. This is the is the life being wasted on the youth. Yeah, you know I saw I've been to 35 states you know and and I have I did not see as much of those cities as I should have I had all day I had all God. Yeah, you knew the show and I yeah and I was you know but I was 25 26 27 and was not did not have the the adventurous head on my shoulders that I should have. So there's a little bit of regret there but now I'm I'm more well. Did you I mean I'm assuming you weren't getting 30 acres in Marin money but was it a pretty good job for a young actor. You know it was it was I got my PhD in stage time. Yeah, you know I was like I was on stage in front of big crowds memorizing you know and 85 page monologue and so that muscle is strong. It paid more than I had ever been paid and then when I got my first agent after that and I told them how much I was getting paid they they almost had a heart attack and died. So let's just say I was I thought I was making a lot of money. We were making that was money. There is a thing where I know this time was all of us right where when when people not in our business are like wait your agent gets 10% of your money. Yeah, and the thing I was telling was like I would accept 30% of what I get paid today if it wasn't for my agent like that I would be just like you like somebody be like this is what we pay for defending the caveman. You're like fantastic. Yeah, also that thing of like it was so easy in my 20s for somebody to pay me more than I'd ever been paid. Yeah, this is like more than the easy delivery job number to hit. Yeah, and what if what if there's free red balls? Oh, yeah, yeah, great. And lunch. If you had to do an eight o'clock curtain tonight, how how would you be? I'd make it three lines in. I have wiped that hard drive. But I bet I mean, if you if you had an eight o'clock curtain a week from now, I bet you could get on it. I could get I could get through some of it probably. Yeah, but yeah, it was it was it was excellent. An excellent performance training ground. Were you the only at that point where they're multiple defending the caveman on tour? Or was it just you? It was myself and one other actor and then and then after a couple of years, they brought on like three or four more guys to do these smaller runs, including my best friend, Isaac, who's who's an actor in up in Portland, Oregon. And and yeah, we would all bounce around the country and I would help train them and it was but landing in Chicago was was. the best. I mean, that's where I got my first agent. That's where I jumped into I.O. and got some of the best acting classes of my life. And who's your era of I.O.? Who do we know that it's there? So I was my teachers were, you know, Susan Messing, Joe Bill, Jimmy Carain, and then on stage at the time, Vanessa Bayer was there. Paul Britton, I was I was coming up in classes with John Barron-Holtz. Oh, yeah, Johnny. The the funny Barron-Holtz. Yeah, such a shame when it happens like that where one of them gets all the chops. Yeah, the one just need some Thomas Middle-Ditch with around then. Yeah, and we were all we were all just watching T.J. and Dave. Yeah T.J. Jackadowski, Dave Pasquese, one of the eight two-person improv shows of all time. This episode of Family Chips is brought to you by Colo Guard, a non-invasive colon cancer screening test. No matter how young you look, Poshy. Yeah, and I think a lot of people assume they need to schedule a procedure, take time off work, or deal with all the prep that comes with a colonoscopy. The process was honestly incredibly simple. I requested the test online. It'd be a telehealth professional. It was delivered right to my door. My busy schedule. Yes, I'm here. It fit right into my day, and it really took away a lot of the excuses people have for putting screening off. It's non-invasive. It can be completed at home in about 15 minutes, and it can detect 95% of colon cancers. 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That was one of those, so Hawaii on the Big Island has one of the biggest hotels in the world, and it was one of those vacations where everything was included, and we were a little older, and so we could wander around. And I, you know, I would sleep, I think I stayed, of the week where there I stayed, like two nights in the hotel room. I would go, I would get at these hammocks out on that. Okay, I thought you were just, like, meeting locals. And then I would just, no, no, no, you gotta remember, I'm an eagle scout, so I was himmicking. I literally would sleep out on the beach, and I might have fallen in love a little bit with, you know, they had the T-Match Club there, you know, you share. And would you, so would you be separate from your family for a lot of the day, and then maybe come together? My brother would go and get in trouble, and then run back and have me, we'd have meals together, and there was a snorke, you know, we went snorkeling. They had, they had, you know, looking back now, it's like one of these hotels that has a little tiny lagoon in the middle with a couple of dolphins, or just like, oh yeah. Like, how the, we end up here. Yeah, all of the places are way out. Yeah, the ocean is right there. Yeah, it's rough there. But yeah, it was, it was, it was the first place I ever, it was even growing up in California, I was, listen, on my Irish, we're not fun in the sun type people. It takes a lot of life. Everyone else in my family gets real tan, and I'm ready. I mean, if you, if you're watching this podcast right now, you and I look sunburned just on the podcast, we're inside. Yeah, I'm not sunburned, and I look sunburned. And we're already sunburned. Whereas I'm just like glowing. Yeah, really, I'm golden, the golden light coming from the center square. I learned surfing for the first time, you know, which was how are you? You know what? I was 19. I was at the peak of my physical form, right? I was a competitive tennis player growing up. So I had a lot of upper body strength. Still the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. I was not good at it. And it was the most exhausting 30 minutes of my life. I watched my wife as a late in life, but she started to learn how to surf. And we've gone on vacations where I will watch her surf. And I enjoy watching, but it's just like, I don't know, what is it when they say the juices and worth the squeeze? Like it's so much time swimming out for like ultimately what is a very short wave part of it. Whereas when you mentioned tennis, I'm like, tennis, I told like I've started playing tennis. I love that because it's like you can just play, you play for an hour. It's not like, oh, let's go play tennis. How do you do it? Well, you got to climb up that mountain. I think I hope that some tennis balls come and don't die. No, exactly. Yeah. No enduring tennis is like just FYI. There's a, there's a strong undernet today. Yeah. Don't get too close to the net. It'll suck you in. And then you're going to die in that net. Yeah. We'll have to get the tennis coach to come get you. I pull you out. So did you was that was it a pretty short time in your life that you were surfing? Oh, by the way, it was my daughter. She's going to say hi real quick. Oh, yeah, I can't talk. You just have to say hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. You want to look in the camera? I only see you. I'm going to say hi real quick to her uncle. And this is my friend Chris. Yeah, Chris. Hi, Percy. Hi, Addy. How are you? Hey, Addy. This is our friend, Chris. You want to say hi to Chris? How are you? What are you doing today? You went biking the other day, but what happened? I felt old my bike. Was it a nice sunny day when you went biking? No. What kind of day was it? Vainey. No. And what happened when it started to rain? I saw all my bike. Yeah. Oh, no. You seem fine. You don't look too tinged up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ready to get back on the bike. All right. Goodbye. Thank you. Bye, bye, booby. It was great. Bye, booby. Nice stop, bye. Bye, Percy. Is that, bye, honey? So, Percy, Sufi. Am I booby? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if you want to be booby. Yeah. We love to have a booby in the house. Just FYI, it's spelled, it's spelled B-A-I-O-E-F. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sufi and booby in the morning. Hey, booby, how was your weekend? Warn, Warn. Yeah. But did you surf anymore? Was that it? That was it, bud. Yeah. You know what? I was like, I'll stick to the land. Yeah. Yeah. Smart. I was-- You build about Thornton Land, man. Yeah. It's for as big as big. I mean, I'm six foot four. I was a big kid. Everybody tried to get me into every sport. And I played one day of football. And it was like, yeah, yeah. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. How-- But you were a good tennis player? Yeah. I was. I was a ranked junior player through. And then I went to Loyal and Mary Mountain, played on scholarship for a year. And then realized that being a professional tennis player was about as wise as becoming a professional actor. So-- Yeah. It does, by the way, it does seem like the solitary life of a professional tennis player is probably very in line with doing a defending the caveman unto us. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I picked up the tennis version of acting. Me and the audience just hit in the ball back and forth. But you are the only one with the winners, definitely the caveman, right? Just smash in the winner. That's right. One ace after another. And your kids, do they-- I mean, we talked about, basically, again, you're not on vacations right now. Just moving your kids to the places. But do they travel OK? We're getting there. We just took our first trip that was like-- it was easy when there were babies. You can move them around, and they don't care where they are. And everything's fine. But now, we just took our first trip for Bear's Birthday that felt maybe like the first real family trip, if I can name the podcast. We did a day at Legoland for his birthday. How was it? You know? It's all right, Seth. Which Legoland is it? I feel like there's multiple Legoland. The one in Southern California in Colorado. I can't imagine. Yeah. It's wonderful. It is-- Legoland is part carnival, part county fair, part amusement park, and all legos all the time, which is great. He loves it. I'm going to say there must be-- I bet there's a healthy dose of capitalism in there. Yeah, opportunism. You wouldn't believe it. You couldn't believe it. And then we moved the wagon down the road, and we did a day at the San Diego Zoo, which-- Oh, great. Oh, nice. You know, bounced them around to a bunch of hotels, and they did well, and it was nice. And they enjoyed their snacks everywhere we went. It's just about the snacks. Yeah. But up until then, I was like every time we moved them, I'm like, never again, this is a new kind of hell. I mean, I've told a story so many times. But we went to-- When the kids were like young, we took them to Miami direct flight from New York. And I said, do a Lexi. I'm like, this is it. I think we should just, until they get older, we should never go farther than this. And then the next year, she said, I want to go to Uruguay, which is Miami layover, and then 12-hour flight. And then 12-hour. Yeah. But then when you get there, it's same weather as Miami, so it's worth it. With worse room service. But for cool trees, cool trees. Why? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Why? Why Uruguay? I don't know. We had a-- He's not in a chart, Chris. We're not-- we don't communicate great, so I still don't quite know why we went. It was, I'm selling short. I actually would say of places I've been in the last 10 years, most spectacular place I've been. I just wish our kids had been a little older. That's even better than the Grady Canyon. Oh, yeah, dude. Come on. OK. I mean, so I mean, Lago Land, Great American River, on a after a flood, full of snakes on Snake Bay. At the Great American River, what's it called? Is it called the Great American River? What's it called? American River. The Great American River. Yeah. It's the Great American Snake Day. Yeah. Great American Snake Day at the River. Head on down to the river for the Great American Snake Day. You can stick your hand in the water and come out with a snake. You get a snake and you've got a snake. You get a snake. This is-- have you enjoyed being a podcast host yourself? Yes. Yeah. I know. I-- yeah. We share producers, which is lovely. Yeah. Good group. Good group. Shout out Sam. Shout out Rabbit Grand. Yeah. That's right. And it's definitely been a new muscle. You know, the art-- the art of, you know, what you do, Seth Anpoche, the art of conversation, the art of keeping the conversation going, the-- the art of appearing interested is-- Josh-- Josh really has to work that muscle with me. Just with you and out of our guests, so much. No, not with your guests. Just with me. Yeah. Just a dead eye in the intros. You fancy yourself a social person, you know, and then-- and then you're like, oh, this is a different thing. This is a different thing. Yeah. And it needs to be treated differently. Yeah. But yeah, we've really enjoyed it. And, you know, Mandy and Sterling and I just kind of didn't want our show to end, you know, when this is us ended, it ended prematurely by the network standards. They would have taken us for a few more seasons. Yeah. By the way, the rarest of outcomes in modern television is that. Yeah. You know, usually it's any way around where you've got to-- you've got one or two more stories to tell in the networks like, work good. Yeah. So it worked out. And Dan and they had such a nice ending planned for the show and it went just as planned. And we weren't ready for it to end either. And so we, when we started the rewatch podcast called, that was us, please like and subscribe. It was just a chance to hang out. It was a chance for us to see each other. It's going to want some more. Yeah. It's the best. That's the secret, delicious part of doing these is that we're just getting to hang out. Yeah. Because you guys are off. It's like coasts, right? We are. We're opposite coasts, but we're making the most of our time together virtually. Yeah. This is so lovely, Chris, and now Josh is going to hit you with our speed round questions. Great. All right. Here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? I'll go adventurous. What is your favorite means of transportation? Car. Great. Nice. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? You know, I made a lot of notes for the podcast, and I listened to the podcast a lot, and so I even knew this question was coming, and I didn't postulate an answer for this one. But I will say, I will say Taylor Goldsmith and Mandy Moore. We vacation well together, and I would definitely do that. Excellent. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? I will say, I would say my son, Bear. Great. What is your dream destination for a family vacation? We have been trying to go to Japan for a long time. My wife and I, before we had kids, and we've had two fully planned trips to Tokyo. My best friend from high school lives there, has lived there for a decade. And the last one that we planned was foiled by something called COVID-19. We got that too. Ars was foiled that year, and so ironically, I didn't think that it would be a great place to take kids, but our kids, for some reason, won't eat a chicken nugget, but they love a raw piece of yellowtail. so it's a very expensive thing to like, but you've got to go on vacation somewhere where that's the chicken nugget, where that's price, nugget price. We'll take a dozen nugs and so yeah, so that's I think that's where where we would like to go, maybe in a couple more years when they're a little more communicative and a little less schizophrenic. Yeah. And when they might remember it, yes, yeah, yeah, definitely memories are going to be you. Um, you are from your hometown at Sacramento if you had to get more families to come visit Sacramento, what would you say about that city? I would say that Sacramento is on the way to a lot of cool places. All right. So it's, it's a, if you're, if you're headed to San Francisco from the east, stop by. Hey, if you're going to Tahoe from the west, stop in. Stay a night or two, you know, check out Sutter's Fort. There's, you know, there's some historical things that are really cool about Sacramento. Obviously, the gold rush started in Sacramento. It's Sutter's Fort as every fourth grader in Sacramento knows on your field trip to Sutter's Fort. So yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of cool history there, while you're on your way to your vacation, your chosen destination. Yeah. Seth has our final questions. Well, it's clear from how Chris discussed it earlier. He knows the Grand Canyon is dog shit, but I'll ask anyway, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I haven't. I, I was, I was setting you up for, do you want to go? Yes, I, yes, I would, I mean, he's an eagle scout, an eagle scout, got to go to the Grand Canyon. What's the point of being an eagle scout if you don't go to the Grand Canyon? That's right. Listen, there's a, there's a portion of the Grand Canyon. I'll tell you, that's my friends went, my friend went on a six day rafting trip down the, the Grand Canyon with his mom. And again, it was one of these trips where he was like, this is a gamble. This is a roll, the, roll of the dice. We're going to get on a raft for six days and he, and he said it was great, Seth. He said, they, they had sent rafts ahead and they would set up your camp for you and they would cook for you. And he goes, and even as a flex on like the fifth day, they whipped out ice cream. So I think if I was going to see the Grand Canyon, that's how I'd like to see it. All right. Yeah. That works. Thank you so much, Chris. This was delightful talking to you. That was us as a podcast with Sterling and Mandy. All good people. It's good people podcast. A big span, you guys. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Thanks. Our pleasure. Great to meet you. Have a good day. Love to bear. Love to. And EFA. Come on. Yeah. I was worried. I was going to say it wrong. And also, yeah, say how to ate off while you're at. 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