Chris Hemsworth

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Just a reminder that you can watch video versions of our episodes now on Spotify as well. Today's guest is an actor. He's a producer. He's a life explorer, if you will. He has a new film out that's called Crime 101. It's in theaters right now. You can go check it out. I had a good. I had a good time getting to know this Australian gentleman. Today's guest is Mr. Chris Hemsworth. Shine on me And I will find a song I've been singing Almost. Australians, I think they just. I feel like they're more like risque with their lives, kind of. Yeah, there is a lack of. Well, it's risk-averse due to either the lack of fear or the extra amount of stupidity at times. Yeah. It kind of fluctuates. It's a beautiful bravery, though, that they have, you know? Yeah. And even like when you travel, like one thing I remember from just traveling a lot was just seeing Australians everywhere. They pop up in anything, you know? Like you turn on a tap in another country, like you're pouring a beer and a couple of Australians just come out on surfboards, kind of a boogie board. As an Australian, that's always problematic. It's like you go to a country to get away from Australia and have a different cultural experience, and it's, oh, g'day, mate, shit. Yeah, I know you, and the next minute you're all at the bar together doing what you did back home. Yeah. Yeah, I could totally see that, man. Where does that nature come from in Australians to go? Is that like a. Because, I mean, it's a serious thing that I think everyone would say is that you go anywhere and there's Australians there. I think it's. You know, we're quite isolated where we are, you know? And for such a. We're a young country as far as the. You know, the White Settlement being there, you know, in the last sort of 200 and so years, and there's been always a sense of adventure either across the country itself or just the need to get out and explore because, again, it's not like, you know, if you're in Europe, you're, you know, jumping from France to Italy to London and you can have, you know, different cultural experiences within, you know, a two-hour train ride. For us, it's a big adventure, you know, pack a backpack and you're on several flights and. Buses and trains and boats and whatever. And so there is a. There is an adventurous spirit, but I think, you know, all the guys I grew up with, it was like finish high school and go backpacking around the world. So that's like a big thing where people are like, when they finish, they're like, when they finish high school, it's like, I'm going to get out of here, I'm going to go experience something. Yeah. Is it almost taboo if you don't, in a way, that if you don't have, like, a. No, I think it just comes from not having figured out what you want to do next, you know? And, like, I had probably 50-50 with my group of friends who. Knew what they were doing. They were going to, you know, a couple of them went into a trade and a couple of them went to university and then a couple of them were like, I've got no idea and maybe I'll find it in, you know, Peru or wherever I'm going to go backpacking and, you know, cross paths with folks that might inspire something else in me. But, yeah. Did you do something like that? I know you grew up, like, partially in the outback and partially in Melbourne, right? Yeah. Grew up in Melbourne, then lived in Northern Territory, an Aboriginal community about four hours southeast of Catherine and, like, in the middle of. In the middle of nowhere. And that was my earliest, most vivid memories. But that. Were there in the bush, kind of? Yeah. Like, there was an Aboriginal community, a bunch of Aboriginal communities in the region we lived in and, I mean, all out through, all across Northern Territory. But where we were, the proximity, there were sort of three or four communities that my dad worked, ran, like, a cattle station and then ran, like, a community centre. And I went up there when I was five or six and then came back to Melbourne and then again when I was, like, seven, eight, nine, you know, so a couple of different times. But as far as the backpacking thing, I started working when I was 18. I ended up on a soap opera and then that kind of took me, you know, straight into what I'm doing now. But I kind of miss that. And I do look back, and I was especially speaking to a lot of friends of mine that had this sort of crazy adventure prior also to being famous and prior to being recognised and you could just kind of get into a bunch of trouble and explore. Explore the world and, you know, make all those mistakes and hopefully learn something from them. I feel like that period I do, there's a romanticism that I sort of, or a nostalgia that I long for that I wish I had done that prior to sort of, you know, jumping into the working world. Yeah, it's one thing it's a downside of celebrity or popularity is that, yeah, there's things you can't kind of go do, like, in a, like, yeah, like, sometimes I'll romanticise as well, like, being like, oh, I'd like to go there, go there, but then I'm like, it would be more uncomfortable now or it would be some type of way. Did you do it after school? Did you ever get a chance to travel and. Yeah, yeah. I had a girlfriend, we went over there and that was like a seven-country fight we went on. Oh, man, I fought in so many territories. Like, oh, man, I thought I was, like, working with Napoleon or something over there. It was a lot of, oh, yeah, I should get a medal for that. And so should she, I'm going to say that. What was the drama, what was it coming from? Just, I think you don't know how you are when it's, like, stressful out there when you're on trains and you're moving your bags all the time and we booked too many places to go see. Like, we should have done four days in each spot and we tried to do, like, two days, nine spots instead of do, like, four spots, five days. And so you're just constantly on the go and you just, I would be sneaking off and just drinking wine by myself and, like, and then one night I took, I went off to the grocery by myself and somebody had, like, a hit, a LSD or something. It was, like, probably a pretty, you know, nouveau grocery, I guess. Because, I mean, it wasn't on the shelves, but it was available in the parking lot, you know, which I consider an extension of the grocery. But, yeah, so then I came back there and I was, like, I thought it would, like, boost my spirits and then it was just a long, that was horrible. And that time we were, like, in a camping sort of environment where there were outhouses and stuff and so. In what country? That was outside of Venice. Yeah. Yeah, so. Yeah. But it was great, but it was just, like, that was just a lot, you know. I'm too much in. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, like, going on that, doing something like that now, it would just feel, like. Yeah. It would feel tougher. And I'm sure, yeah, it's, like, you're Chris Hemsworth now, so it's, like, there's, you know, that name is bigger than you. And so it's, like. It's interesting because I sort of had a point in my life where, I don't know if you find this, but every few years you're kind of, you know, what was the goal at one point quickly becomes the norm and then you're on to something else and then it's this sort of reassessment. It's a process of, like, what my purpose is around or the why as to doing this thing and I'm chasing it for one reason and then it's for something else. And I'm at that sort of point where I'd love to sort of step away on one hand and, you know, do a little sort of soul searching and dig a little deeper and sort of get a little more solitude and time for yourself. But I think what would that look like? You know, it's like. The idea that's romantic, that feels like. Yeah, it's not. But then the reality, it's hard to, like, say, well, would I be okay in that footing? Yeah, like, I'm not going backpacking at 42 and I've got three kids and then that's not my kind of. Yeah, your backpack will be full. Yeah, it'll be full, full of all three of them. But it was, but more just the kind of, the way you see the world through when you are famous and recognized versus when you're not, you know, different things. People interact differently to you, you know, for good and bad, but also the opportunities that sort of present themselves and the pleasure. Yeah. And the places you can kind of inhabit become a little limited, you know, in that sense. But, you know, it's what it is. Yeah. The world's your oyster, but it's like, you know, it's. You have this opportunity, but there's a restriction. There is such a restriction to your, how much you can really involve yourself in it. You know, it becomes very observational. You know, we're going to press tour. Yes. And you go to, like, 10 different countries and it's like, God, that must be amazing. It's like. Yeah. From the hotel room, you know, you're looking out and then, you know, if you're, there's posters and so on around the streets of your face everywhere, then it's even more difficult. But it's, yeah, I, and not to say you can't navigate your way around it at times. Right. And we're not complaining, but no, it's an interesting look and that's, it's a good thought. Yeah. You can only, it becomes very observational. Yeah. Which, which, look, hey, is not a negative either at times. It's sort of. It's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I think of, like popularity and stuff like that. It's just interesting to be part of an experience Like, okay, this is what it's like. That's kind of how I now like, okay, there's good parts, there's bad parts. I don't think of it as me really as much as like, okay, I'm in this setting and this is the experience. - And it's also, it's like the sort of polarity of things. Like every time you solve one problem, life has a way of presenting another challenge and not even a problem. It's like in order to be able to evolve and growth, the adversity that's shifted your way. And I think that's the sort of the misconception, I suppose, is the assuming that this, that, and the other will, I'll be void of those problems. - It'll solve it all. - And so what comes with huge benefit in being like your recognizable personality and so on and fame and all that is incredible. And it comes with its own things as does in any industry. I remember talking to my mom about this years ago. She was a high school teacher and I was like, ah, man, it's really tricky at work. The cast and the producer and then does the film work in this? And she said, yes, I could kind of line those things up parallel to my experience. And the students might be my audience and the principals, the producer and so on. And it's like, that's life, that's the experience. And I think I've gotten much better at sort of not egoically thinking that my experiences, which are somehow separate, different, or unique. It's like whatever industry, whatever demographic, wherever you're born, your kind of life has a way of throwing you the same sort of options, I guess, to appreciate things in its truest form, rather than sort of goal-seeking or accumulating or whatever. - Yeah, the game doesn't really change. It's like, you don't think of like, oh, these problems are different. It's just like, okay, now there's new things and that's just life. There's not really like, yeah, I don't think that popularity or celebrity is an escape from the truth of things, if you're realistic. - Yeah, for sure. And there's certainly, you know, there's a sort of, we see countless times again and again, the sort of, I guess the, not even the purity, but the sort of the motivation behind pursuing something, if it is for the assumption of it solving all the problems, like you get ready for a rude awakening and it's like, oh, shit, that didn't answer all the questions I had, or it did momentarily. And then, you know, there's a new set the next morning. And so, kind of surrendering to that has been, I think that's the, I'd say the gift in, I think, experience any form of fame or sort of celebrity or whatever, is that you get to kind of see behind the curtain and you get to have that realisation that from afar, most people are always gonna be living with the assumption that it might bring you something. - Way better behind the curtain. - Yeah. - And you get behind the curtain, you're like, oh, shit. - I'm on the other side again. I'm back to the, I'm back in line. - Yeah, yeah, you open the curtain, you realise it's just a mirror. - Yeah, yeah, exactly that, exactly that, yeah. - Hey, Zach, I'm getting a little bit of reverb. I don't know if it's from the audio in the other room. - Have Chris pull his mic down just a hair. - Oh, down a bit? - Perfect. - It's up my nose now, isn't it? - Yeah, we wanna see your face, dude, because this is, you know what I'm saying? That's what people wanna see, you know what I'm saying? Dude, God, dang, dude, yeah, your frickin' looks maxing or whatever they call it, you know? It's gotta be crazy just being so handsome sometimes, dude. I bet your mirror, whenever it sees you, it's like, oh, yeah. I bet your mirror makes a positive sound, you know? - Look, man, does anyone-- - Does this seem gay at all? Sorry if it does. - No, no, just the two of us in a room alone, it's fine. I feel like-- - Whatever, dude. You know what I'm saying? - No, I appreciate-- - Call me a Fosters with some tits on it. - You're a handsome fella, too, mate. - I don't know, dude. I'm side of the road handsome. Like, if people are going by at, like, 50 miles an hour, they're like, hey, I think that guy was okay looking. - I'm sitting right next to you, and I'm admiring what I see, mate. - I'm hitchhiker handsome. Well, thank you, dude. - Yeah, I'd pick you up if you were hitchhiking. - Thanks, bro. You would? - Absolutely. Where are you headed? - Hell yeah. You can't even hitchhike in America anymore because, like, I think either the people picking up hitchhikers were, like, killing the hitchhikers, or the hitchhikers were killing the people, but it became like-- - Really? - It became like a real-- - You see Wolf Creek, that film years ago? Yeah. - Yeah, dude. - I think that kind of ended hitchhiking in Australia for a good decade or two. - Yeah, dude. Do motion pictures realize that they, just one motion picture about something, ruins the ability to get somewhere across a continent? - That ruined hitchhiking, and Jaws ruined the whole ocean experience. - Oh, God, yeah. - I had, on hitchhiking, I was in Vancouver once. Jaws, I was shooting a movie there, like, 15 years ago, and driving back from Whistler, and it was like seven, eight o'clock at night, and picked up a hitchhiker, and thought, "Hey, this is so good." And it started to get real sort of creepy, and starts kind of asking me, like, "What are you doing? "Where are you from? "And what are you up to?" And like, getting a little too sort of personal, and, "Where are you staying?" And whatever, and so I immediately start kind of, you know, filling in sort of, "Yeah, I just do heaps of martial arts, "and, you know, a lot of jiu-jitsu, "and a big background in boxing," and, you know, telling, like, fight stories, and seeing if that's gonna-- sort of, like, sway the thing. And, thankfully, nothing happened, but it was that, like, moment where you're sizing each other up, going, "Well, I don't know anything about you, "and you don't know anything about me, "and we could be-- - How does this go? Yeah, like, how does this story end? You start thinking, "Yeah, how does this story end, "and what role am I gonna play in it?" - Yeah, is it knife or gun, or whatever, but-- - Yeah, that is one thing that is nice, I would say, about picking up hitchhikers. I've picked up a fair share over the years, and it's really like, "Okay, let's see what God wants for me today." - Yeah, sure. - You know? - Mark Ruffalo, we were at a music festival in Australia, and just, you know, such a lovely human being, and picked up a couple of hitchhikers, and then, the next day, I spoke to him, and he goes, "I got back at, like, 7:00 a.m." And I was like, "Well, you left at, like, 2:00?" And he's like, "Yeah, but I picked up these young kids," and they were like, you know, 18-year-old, nine-year-old kids, and they were like, "Yeah, we're going in that direction." And I didn't have the heart to tell him I was going the other direction, so I ended up going this, like, four-hour detour. - That's big-hearted. - That's it, that's a Ruffalo. - Yeah. I mean, that's also insane to be driving with children that far. That seems very-- - Eight-year-old to nine-year-old, from a festival. It was like kids, you know, they were sort of-- - Okay, adult children. - Young folk, and yeah. - Schoolies, they call them, eh? - Yeah, yeah, schoolies. And then, the toolies are the older ones hanging around, which, they're the older-age kind of creeps that are hanging around. - Oh, they call them toolies. Oh, that's good. - Yeah. - Oh, yeah, 'cause they should have a trade by that point, so it's okay. - They should have a job and not be hanging around. Eight-year-olds. - Yeah, pick up a hammer, you know? Do something. Was there kind of a point where you started to like, I think it's interesting what you said about, you know, you get to certain moments, and you kind of like, you're like, okay, what's going on now? It's kind of like you're in life, a lot of times it does feel like that. And recently, I think it's been like that for me, where it's like, I feel like you're underwater for a long time, and not in a bad way or anything. You're just, you're in the mix of life, and you're doing things, and then you get to a point, you're like, okay, let me come up and see what's going on, and why am I, why, like, what goals did I set? And where am I now? And then what do, where do I want to be next? Or what things are important to me now? You know, or like, how I, you know, what strokes do I want to use next in my life to get me to where I want to be at the next checkpoint, sort of? - For sure. Yeah, and I feel-- - Has it been like kind of a recent thing that's been going on, or is it just-- - Definitely, definitely, yeah. I read this book called "The Middle Passage," which is, you know, a gentler term for a midlife crisis. - Dude, yes. - Like James Hollis, and it's Jungian psychology, and it's beautiful because it talks about, you know, this sort of personification of self, and this, you know, the gathering of our identity as children, and due to our, you know, family bonds and ties, societal expectations. It could be religious, community, whatever. And you go through life attempting to present what you think the world wants from you. Some of it you may have some input in as far as what you want, but a lot of it is kind of an assembling to fit in. And then you get to this certain point, usually around your 30s, 40s, where that mask, that personification starts to wear thin and doesn't hold up. And there's this inner protest, and Jung talks about from the soul, the psyche, rises up and says, "There's a deeper truth here "and a meaning, and what is it, and what is my contribution?" And it comes around like when people find themselves in a place of servitude to something outside of themselves, you know, and it's like you service yourself for so long and as a sort of survival and to, you know, maintain a position in the workforce and so on. And then all of a sudden it's like, there's something deeper that I haven't answered. And I find, and your purpose even shifts around like, the why for doing things. You know, like it might purely be, you know, I was saying this before, but the sort of purity around your motivations and, you know, what is your heart saying? What is your passion? That's all very well, but you got to pay the bills. And so to be sort of financially motivated for a purity of your life and to take care of folks and family and so on, one thing. And then, okay, that's sort of now-- - That's in a safe place. - That's in a safe place. And what's the next thing? And it's. I think if you're lucky enough to find that thing that speaks to you on a sort of a deeper level, but also allows you to function and operate in the world and be sort of financially motivated, secure then then great um but i sort of find myself bouncing around with those questions a lot more than i ever have and a lot more sort of indecision and a lot more i had this sort of not naive but pretty strong sort of um relentless your confidence and pursuit when everything i was doing and i was gonna and it was when things were as far out of reach as possible same and then what i had all of a sudden you sort of arrive and you have these things that were going to bring you all of that fulfillment and you they do momentarily and then you start to come up short you're like god what is it there's this there's this other sort of burning desire or voice that requires attention and it and that you know is around i think solitude and sort of a slight separation from the busyness of sort of life and and work and all the trappings to answer some of those questions and none of you know i haven't come up with a lot of the answers to that but i think it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a finite conclusion but i i find the more i enjoy the mystery of that question and and and the seeking and the adventure and that the path that that takes you on then with without an attachment to an outcome i've found myself a lot happier the better off you are yeah and a lot more at peace with the the ebb and flow and things however rapid that pendulum may be swinging yeah yeah i want to know that's the thing sometimes i just want it like yeah i want to know and i want to know now and i want to know like sometimes for my own safety it's like yeah because i don't want to be in limbo you know but yeah i think having that space of like yeah what of embracing the okay i don't know right now yeah and may and that's okay and that is what is going on yeah and let me enjoy this somehow and living in the questions not the answers you know this sort of i think that there's a danger in definitives you know there's a sort of almost a lack of humility in that too and this is where all of our sort of problems arise is my voice is correct and yours is incorrect and mine versus yours but allowing there to be mystery questions curiosity and i think then there's an abundance of opportunity to to learn that the new things start to come your way where as soon as i kind of go i've got it i've figured it out and i put it in a box or myself or other people or scenarios the world just obliterates that immediately and then you're left with that disappointment and it's that expectation that i'm gonna figure it out is i think is i think that the trapping you know and so but this takes real courage and bravery in in the surrendering to that and and the willingness just to go wow this this sort of um you know universal kind of the cosmic dance or this adventure we're on is supposed to be fun and and the sort of the most serious thing you can do is not take it so serious you know and and i find myself the polarity of things coming back to this all the time going okay but what does that mean and then there's that brief sort of moment of stillness of i don't know and it's just being okay with the i don't know yeah yeah dude so a lot of times like yeah like when it comes to like um feeling just kind of in the world and in between spaces and uncertain i want it's almost like you know when you're a kid and you run and you want to get your foot on the base yeah it's like that's how i want just i want to have my foot on a base i want to have something that feels like it's certain or at least like as certain for like as a kid waiting on for like i just want to know that's where i have to be as opposed to being like i'm going to stand here while the third basement and the shortstop throw the ball back and forth yeah and i'm going to be the guy in the middle and i'm going to enjoy that yeah because the truth is as a viewer and i'm just using like baseball analogy the the best part of the viewing is you start to smile when that guy is in between the short second and third baseman and they're throwing the ball and you're like how is this going to go yeah for sure that's really where the most joy kind of is that's and that's the the anticipation the mystery the sort of immersion in the adventure and now it's like you know you this is why we pick up books we want to flick to the end we want to know what the end is and same with life and then you get to the end and you're like oh geez actually it was all the tropey things you've heard before that you know the journey not the destination so on and i think that um and i wrestle with that all the time and then a bit later i think i'm going to but i've gotten better with understanding that i might have a handle on it today and i won't tomorrow and that's okay you know as opposed to kind of just needing that definitive like what is it about but i mean if we if we knew if there was you know the reason we um you know the sort of understanding of our own mortality is what allows us to appreciate and love things you know without a sort of conclusion at some point and an end to it there wouldn't be we wouldn't even know it we wouldn't appreciate anything right what would life be then yeah you don't know love without loss and you don't know and and so yet we spend so much time trying to either figure out the answer or avoid suffering yet they're you know the the joy and the love and the loss is one of the same thing and without this you know and um dang dude it's kind of i i do riddles with myself around it and i don't know about you but i was a kid at night time that would kind of be sitting there at garner what is what does the end of life look like in the end of life and if it's just blackness if it's nothing what can i still think in the nothing or is it like nothing nothing am i you know that's sort of yeah do i have any toys in there am i like like talk to someone still or is it just like it's just black yeah is there a lunchable you know like yeah like tell me just tell me that the nothing has lunch yeah that's crazy bro i'm realizing that you're like a smart guy stalking a good-looking guy you're not like a good looking guy that's just like you know oh sorry and that's a judgment dude but no you know sorry that was just like a judgment a lot of questions yeah that's a good way to be man i just yeah sometimes i want to be at the end of the sentence so i feel safe you know yeah i just want to like uh it gets scary i was just talking with um we just had kevin james on and we're talking about like even like uh like if especially like if i'm in a relationship or like with women or even just sometimes a buddy and stuff i will if there's quietness like downtime if it's silent yeah i'll just start being like what else is going on like i'll have to fill it in you know it's like i won't i it's hard for me to leave the opportunity for something different to bloom but then i crave there to be like like whimsy and unique experiences and stuff like that so i think this conversation is neat just to even have a thought about that because i think even just talking about this will be a reminder of like next time i'm in some of those moments like let me just see what happens here yeah you know yeah um do you ever read anything ellen watts i hear a lot of his like audio and stuff my mom always sends it to me it's this beautiful thing about love and about the idea of like falling in love the absurdity of falling and he said it's you know people say oh it's crazy to fall in love but how um but but the act of falling is a risk in itself and a surrender you don't say rising to love and so anything that's worth pursuing that that has you know that brings comfort and love and joy and whatever there is an act of surrender that occurs at some point and and that that that again in the sort of being 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to places where you like uh are trying to find more time for peace i know you had a sh the documentary you did called limitless yeah yeah um and i know you have your new movie crime 101 and um we want to talk about some of that i watched it last night and uh but yeah was stuff that you learned like because limitless is about you kind of experiencing different things to challenge yourself is that a good thing to say yeah it was it was i've done two seasons of it and then i did a an individual episode with my dad but it was a show about longevity and the science longevity in the first season i was very much the the guinea pig um in the name of science then i would be thrown into you know like say so an episode on cold water exposure let's show the benefits and you can swim in the arctic you know for five minutes and you know try and survive or you can you know the benefits of of muscle mass for the brain and we'll do a strength episode so climb a 200 meter damn wall and and so it was all these kind of you know pretty extreme um examples of of of representing the science we were talking about um the second season i had a bit more agency with and it was great and i was less of a guinea pig and i had a bit more of a sort of um educated opinion around each topic um but i wouldn't say i set out to do it for i didn't know it was just sort of came my way and sound like a fun thing to do and yeah it seems really interesting to go through those moments and just to like almost have a buffet of things where like i'm going to try these and see what it's like what was your one of your biggest takeaways from it like as a practice for yourself um if there were any or was there enough of an experience there even to have a like no is it too much of a production to take away oh no there was a lot profound effect on me especially the second season and the first season without me realizing what was occurring like there was all the obvious things about you know strength training and and you know cognitive health and um cold water hot exposure um you know fasting and so on but the the episode i did with my dad called a road trip to remember um was the most profound one because he he was diagnosed with alzheimer's about four or five years ago and he was genetically predisposed to it right yeah he and your mom yeah and that's how we found out because i i did my blood work on that on that show and found out that i had two copies of the apo e4 gene which is you you get a copy from your mom copy from your dad either a two or three they both gave you a copy they both gave me a copy but they both gave me the worst copy which is the four which when i was a four four which is like one in i think a thousand people have but they so i remember being with my dad and telling him about it and going oh i don't know if this is a kind of a you know it's not a death sentence it's not a predeterministic gene but it's like a big warning sign and he said oh don't worry mate we'll figure it out yeah and how many times am i gonna have to tell him about it if he but he didn't we didn't know he was and then five years later he got diagnosed and i remember sitting there telling him don't worry dad we'll figure it out and and and so we went on this this journey this um it's called a road trip to remember it's this thing called reminiscence therapy where you go back into your past stimulate memories and um experiences to stimulate the hippocampus which is the part of the brain that dementia is attacking oh dang your dad's joe biden crazy dude it's uh but um we're spending time with him it's kind of a it's kind of a love letter to him um and we it's not you know i was kind of hoping for a silver bullet to fix it but it became more about connection it became more about like the things i got to say to him and ask him about his concerns and fears around the disease i probably wouldn't have asked him otherwise and so it forced this kind of really beautiful intimate um the series of conversations and um and gave him some agency i think you know because they begin to feel like you know they're a patient or they're a burden you know and all of a sudden this was about him um and i did i watched a shift and and and the big one being social connection the most important thing i took away from both of those seasons was support group friendships and connection and and the people in blue zones you know where people live over 100 or the you know the most centurions in in the population within regions around the world the commonality is is having a wonderful sense of community and a wonderful support network um and then whether or not they drank alcohol or smoked or whatever it was like it you know the the lack of or the reduction in stress due to support networks and friendships and well well yeah they say that in recovery i'm in a lot of recovery communities and they say that connection is the uh is the opposite of um of uh addiction yeah right yeah that connection it's like yeah i mean i was in a meeting this morning like a zoom meeting and it's like yeah i'm sitting there just listening to guys share what's going on with them that's real yeah and some of them say things that i i've always wanted to say and i didn't know i could but i couldn't make the words and then they made the words for me and so there's a part of me that like starts to feel like okay that's not a crazy pieces of a thought that you've had yeah that's a real thing and somebody else just put it together for you and um but yeah just being able to connect they say is the opposite of addiction yeah bring that back up the blue zones i've never heard of this it's where there's the most amount of people who have lived to be 100 live to be 100 yeah um and i think there's like japan somewhere in italy we got okinawa japan yeah icaria greece sardinia italy nicoya and uh that's costa rica yeah and loma linda but hold on there's none over by australia you guys didn't get one yeah i don't know if they skipped us probably because of the danger species the danger of the things that try and kill us yeah we're too busy backpacking to the places you guys are too busy over there making people happy in those places probably blue zones are regions of the world where people have unusually long and healthy lives the many residents reaching age 90 to 100 while staying relatively free of major chronic disease researchers use blue zone to describe geographically limited areas where rates of centenarians are far higher than expected and older adults remain active and independent that's a huge thing that they remain active and independent what work still working as well like still having some form of purpose right oh purpose is huge we talk about that all the time in here yeah that if you people lose their purpose then what do we have do you ever read uh man's search for meaning victor frankl uh i have read that that's you know the purposeful suffering he calls it but watching people in um you know when he was in the prison camp and in our switch how because he was a psychoanalyst or a therapist and he went in and people all under the same horrific circumstances environment and why some people's body was would give up and others wouldn't and it was often when they found out that a loved one or family had been killed or died they then their spirit their soul their body gave up and so he produced uh logo therapy which was about sort of giving a purpose behind whatever adversity you're facing and and giving a sense of meaning to whatever the suffering is you're going through but but again with the centurions people um who it's not not not retiring basically and that doesn't mean work yourself there's difference between working yourself into the into the grave but also you know the work could be you have a garden to maintain you have a you know yeah you have grandchildren to keep tabs on you have a you have a trip to plan you're helping with uh one of your children's activities yeah i think that a lot with my own mom as she gets older it's like you know i want her to be free of things if she doesn't want to work she likes to work she like delivers for amazon and stuff she just loves it she's like you know i'll call her and she's like i'm just sitting in the uh lot of or she'll deliver for like whole foods different um just kind of chain places or something yeah she's like i'm just sitting here in the lot just waiting for a uh for a route or whatever you know and i just i just fit her in her van she's just sitting there she's 70 something and she's just waiting to you know deliver a catalytic converter to some guy across town um thank you for bringing this up this is so fascinating i want to talk about some of these just so we can um that people know some of the things from these blue zones um despite very different cultures blue zones share several recurring features natural movement lots of walking gardening and manual chores built into daily life uh plant-based diet high in vegetables beans and whole grains um strong social ties like we were talking about multi-generational living so probably having your family members around you um tara swart was in she's a neuroscientist she's an author she's she's fascinating lady and she was saying that um the when you feel the best a lot of people that feel the best when you have the best feeling in a home is when there's a lot of people in the home yeah when there's just like multi-generations like uh and those families often get the best sleep because there's just like a there's a connectivity going on yeah um low chronic stress just a few more of these blue zone uh common lifestyle patterns a clear sense of purpose and generally optimistic engaged attitudes in light regular alcohol or none in some places people drink small amounts of wine um in other places they avoid it entirely like in sardini italy they got a you'll see a dang six-year-old out there drinking yeah you know yeah i mean that's the thing it's a lot like a you know he's like oh i'll have a chardonnay and some peppa pig you know it's like you'll see a five-year-old on his tablet ordering a damn cabernet i know it's like it's kind of will be bad well i think this is just proof that there's ways to do it right and this that this is document this is like data that shows that there's ways to uh to have a life that's the most comfortable if you can because it's sort of it's like the sort of you know stress being the biggest killer and you know the cause of chronic disease and so on stress i find like the amount of stress involved in the idea of achieving perfection or doing things perfectly you know and i get asked all the time about like you know you must you know never eat sugar or never drink alcohol trying seven days a week and so on and it's like all right periods where i've gone into the extreme realm but they're not when i've been my happiest or my healthiest yeah like what do you do when a birthday cake comes i just smash it. I love a birthday cake. And what are you supposed to be, that weirdo? Yeah, no. What kind of life is that? You're not going to enjoy in all the sort of, you know. Yeah, what do you do when a freaking, because I'll do low sugar, you know, I'll do no sugar really, but sometimes if a birthday cake comes, dude, what are you going to be? Some guy just over there, just, you know, just carving up a cucumber. Who am I going to, you know what I'm saying? Some dude over there, just sneaking a carrot out of his pocket. Just a little crudite in the corner. Just a little bit of icing. And that's not creepier to the kids that the people at the party is you're over there. You tell me that guy's not stressed. He's, that's, that's a huge amount of stress involved in just smuggling that carrot into the party and then having to explain it. Yeah. Showing up at his birthday party with a couple of carrots in your pocket is way more stressful. And you're right, dude. How there's, and there's a different stress of being the person who's sneakily eating crudite, as you called it, as other people are enjoying a birthday cake. That is a different type of like, how many people do you meet who are, you know, it's often with your grandparents and they smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol and, you know, I'd steak and eggs every day and they're living to, you know, 90, 100. But again, and I'm not saying any of that is the, you know, here's my top 10 tips to live longer. But there, I think that that was in a time when you did have more family members in the house. If you just said like grandparents, cousins, everyone lived in this sort of smaller communities and we're also spread out now. And I don't know about you, but like, in the last sort of five, 10 years, worked really hard to bring my family kind of closer and closer and we all live in the same area for that reason because it's, I think a lot of us grew up or definitely through history, we grew up with bigger households with, you know, shared responsibility. And now you have these little secular sort of, you know, houses where you don't even know your neighbors and your grandparents live somewhere else. And it feels good when your family's around. I know we were, you know what? There's layers to life then, I think, when they're around. Like there's nothing better than when you're feeling horrible and sad about yourself to be able to look across the room and look at one of your parents' eyes and be like, this is your fault. Yeah. And you can't do that if you're at home by yourself. You can't blame anyone if you're sitting there looking in the mirror, you know, and then you're like, your fault. That doesn't work. Yeah. And I think maybe we're going to be getting back towards that and we may not have a choice just because of like the cost of living and things like that. But my niece just moved in back in with my sister. Like, I don't know. And things like that, I think it's kind of nice. Like there is something that's fun about feeling like a part of something. Even if you're like kind of a curmudgeon about it, like, oh, I live back at home. But good for you. Good for you. Absolutely. Plenty of time to sort of live on your own. Good for you. And to get to see your stepdad's nuts hanging out of his freaking undershorts once a year. Once a year, once a week even. What a joy. Yeah, dude. The fucking Lord's mistletoe. That's the best, brother. With your father, how is he doing today? He's good. Look, compared to there are a couple other family members and close by folks that were going through or had the same diagnosis around the same time who were in a catatonic vegetable state. He's, you know, he could sit here with us and talk to us and you might not even know, you know, and you spend enough time and it's the short term memories. And then it's the wrong kind of stress that then is really evident, you know, like stress for him training in the gym. So on and solving a crossword puzzle. Great. But like not finding his keys and then, you know, losing things and then beating himself up about it. Oh, yeah. Then they'll watch his memory go really bad. Wow. So stress is such a big activator. Oh, it's huge. Yeah. He went down, he rides motorbikes and used to race motorbikes and went down to put some gas in the petrol tank and then it wouldn't start. And so mum came, picked him up, went back home. He got home and he said, yeah, I needed the key. And she's like, no, no, no, it just didn't start. And, you know, he's like, got the spare key, went back down, didn't start again. He's like, and he did that three times for the day. By the time that I was at work, I got home and I went and I said, look, I'll just come pick him up, pick the bike up. I put the bike on the back of the car and he was like, all right, we're going to your place to get my car, aren't we? And I said, no, they were taking your bike home. And he's like, what bike? And he had like twice in this 10 minute drive turn around and see the bike in the back of the truck. And that was as strong as I've seen it and as sort of confronting why once that problem had been solved, he could sort of, there was a calm and it was better. But he's doing good, man. What's his name? Craig. Hey, Craig. What's up, Craig? Yeah. Cheers from the US, mate. Yeah, he's a legend. Good day, sir. And what's his trade been in his life? He was- Oh, a cattle man. Well, no, he worked in child protection for most of his career. And then when we went to Northern Territory, and he mustered cattle, he was, that was just for, just a window. Trying something different. Had family up there who were doing it. And in the documentary, we end up back in the Aboriginal community we lived in. And a couple of the guys, they called him, they said, he's a Chuck Norris looking motherfucker because he had this long ponytail and he would like, you know, pull cattle down by the tail and tie them up. I love a male Rapunzel. Male Rapunzel. There's nothing I love more, brother. Oh, that's beautiful, dude. And child protection, what exactly is that? Yeah, he would, he would, to children who would, you know, neglect family violence, abuse, go into the home and basically have to, you know, assess the situation, present evidence to a court, talk to the police department and work out, you know, what should happen and is this child in a safe position? Oh, wow. And huge responsibility and, and, and, and, you know, I watched the toll that took on him over the years when he just couldn't, there were certain things he, he wasn't able to fix, you know, and it was, and you do one, so solve one thing and feel like you were, you know, have momentum and then the next day there's, you know, a big pile of other cases on the desk and so, but very much in service to others and has always been fiercely protective of kids as this sort of angelic sort of quality to, to his, um, integrity. He's, he's, he's ready and willing. Look, I bet we could get him 30% of the vote right now in America to be our next president. If we have somebody that's protective of children here, we'll take it, man. Um, and thank you for your service, Craig. I think that stuff like that is so important, you know, thinking about, um, the wellbeing of children. I think there's nothing that's more, uh, it's like the purest thing that exists in the world. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, so thank you for your service. We appreciate that. Um, they just had a ban for social media, was it, or cell phones in Australia? Yeah, I think we're the first country in the world that, that has had, uh, kids from 16 and under. Yeah. Australia has banned social media for kids under 16. How does it work? Yeah. Under 16s in Australia have been banned from using major social media services, including TikTok, X, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Snapchat, and Threads. Threads sucks. They cannot set up new accounts and their existing profiles were deactivated. Wow. I wonder if they all had like a D-Day when they were all like gathered around, like a fire or something. This is the thing, are they all now like re-entering different ages or is there, I mean, I don't know to what, I mean, I think it's a fantastic thing and, and, the idea of it seems perfect. Yeah. And, and it's execution. I hope there's, um, you know, it, it, it, there's, there's a positive sort of navigation through it because I'm sure, you know, my kids, I change a passcode on the phone or whatever and they figure out shit in, you know, seconds. They're like little, little genius hackers with all of it, but we try and keep them 4,000 or whatever. That's it, so it's the obvious one, you know. So, exceptionally gorge male, seven. Aren't I lucky. You're special too. yeah, I mean, I, this, I, hopefully this takes off around the world. I don't know. I'm going to see what this says here. Australia's government said the ban would reduce the negative impact of social media's design features that encourage young people to spend more time on screens while also serving up content that can harm their health and well-being. I don't know any human that would disagree with that. A study commissioned in 2020 found that 96% of children ages 10 to 15 use social media and that 7 out of 10 of them had been exposed to harmful content. This includes misogynistic and violent material as well as content permitting eating disorders and suicide. yeah, I'm curious, what, yeah, can you look up on, and this is perplexity that we use to look things up. Large studies of more than 100,000 young adults find that each year of smartphone ownership before age 13 is associated with higher rates of depression, like symptoms, suicidal thoughts, aggression, and detachment. Detachment for sure. I mean, and to feel detached when you're already like in a place where you're growing and it's like your footing is uncertain. Girls show particularly big drops in emotional resilience and self-esteem. Cyber bullying and harassment. Phones and apps mean bullying can follow kids home, which raises risks of depression, anxiety, and self-harm. Sleep disruption, big one. Yeah, sleep disruption and body image in comparison. Man, well, cheers to you guys for like leading the charger. I think Spain just followed suit. Is that right? Oh, really? It's where my wife's from. Oh, is it? Yeah. You got a Spanish lady, huh? Yep. Yep. Fari. Fari is your wife's name? Fari. No, I said Fari. Oh, she's Fari. Fari Energy. Oh, yeah. Elsa is her name, yeah. Elsa, like the movie. Yeah, Friesen. As of February 26th, Spain has announced to ban social media access for children under 16. I don't know if we would ever do it here because I think we look at children more as um okay to be victims of marketing and capitalism whereas in other countries they maybe they don't you know i'm glad that australia is doing this do you feel like uh it would take some getting used to there will be this group that has to be the one that loses it yeah and then there will have to be the younger siblings of them that are like oh i wish we had it but if you could get it to go for like a generation i think it would it would really play into something beautiful 100 it's even like you know we were probably i don't know like maybe when the phone first came on like how old are you i'm 45 45 so i'm gonna die soon we we all are we were kind of the uh the guinea pigs for it in a way you know like i remember getting a phone and it wasn't social media yeah just and all of it and then you look at and so you but we had enough awareness of what came before like coming up now 're now and only knowing that that's that that exists and every time i try and tell my kids like that science around it they're like oh shut up you know and there's there's just no there's no um comparison for them you know whereas and that's the comparison we knew the comparison we knew the possibilities and we're still doing it and we still end up depressed and you know i don't know about you but oh dude i noticed i've been off for a while yeah and i'm feeling better man yeah and the algorithm oh yeah there should be a i've always thought there should be able to be like legal recourse against an algorithm because you're creating yeah a system like a a vitriol for me to then go and now it's just my responsibility like i'm nine minutes on i hate a group and now i'm just back out into the world also what that algorithm is created off a question it's not created off a an opinion it's i might have curiosity or ask the question about this particular thing and it goes oh that's that's it and now you're on that down that line and that that's the danger is it's it's making up your conclusion you know is it giving you the definitive sort of this is how you now should vote or this is the way you should be opinionated or this is who you should like or dislike based upon human curiosity you know you like you might not be you know one political party supporter but you're having a look at it next minute that's all you're seeing yeah you're fully on board it takes you from curious to conviction it takes and it takes you there you're right in the beginning i'm just like oh i'm curious about this yeah but then suddenly you're for your next seven videos are about it and you're like now i have some sort of a conviction complete bias opinion about it yeah and they can even serve it's almost like like here's the next stair step here's the next stair step like they can do you know you're right though there should be like at bare minimum they're not allowed to create an algorithm that encourages one thing it should be you have to continue to put that search in the search engine as opposed to it going this is all we're feeding you now because it's all perspective it's it's it's like your version of you know one thing or my version of that is all around what i've been exposed to there's no kind of right and that i've been fed by this fucking machine in my hand you know and on x they have people killing each other yeah that's insane no my it's i mean my kids were talking about certain you know horrific events and so on i was like where the hell did you say that and and it's it's there's nothing to stop it you know oh dude well the craziest part is the other night i wake up i'm i for some reason i'm like you know i'm obviously lonesome or whatever but so i'm like on x or whatever it's like 3 15 in the morning i don't even know why i'm on there yeah i see two people and i'm like two people get shot outside of a wendy's right and they don't even show you if people if emts come they don't show you that part no it's just two people shot outside of a wendy's right and then the next thing is an advertisement for wendy's that's it and i'm like now i'm hungry i don't even care about the it's like i forgot yeah i was fucking it's insane and i'm like well do i need two bags of platelets and an emt or a baconator yeah the complete sort of desensitization to something and then the immediate the sort of bait and hooked into the product being sold it's like and that you get taken from something that's so serious yeah and it's something that's so trivial yeah that it's like it starts to like deteriorate the part of you that takes something very serious serious yeah for sure yeah and for these kids now you got to walk over there and look this girl in the eyes yeah and see that she might not be interested in you which is the genre that we grew up in brother yeah if you want to call somebody fat you got to walk across town you got to say it to them and then you got to see their big fat fill come and hit you right in your smug face yeah no and there's no accountability that's the other thing it's like the amount of like smart aleck sarcastic sort of you know sentiment and tone i hear from sort of my kids and their mates based upon the lack of consequence like you said that shit in high school school and you you felt it immediately went well a lesson to note yourself don't say that again whereas now now you're like plugging all sorts of things on on your comment boards or you're commenting on what other people have done with you know very little if any um any repercussion let me see what this says instagram rolls out algorithm control option to all english-speaking users oh wow after launching it in early testing with a limited number of users in october last year instagram has today announced that all english-speaking users globally will now be able to access it's your algorithm manual control option giving you another way to define your reels experience i thought it already did that though because i remember meeting someone who said this is like eight years ago said no no you're like you know what you've we've all you know you've said you know you've talked about you know puppy dogs for a while and then all of a sudden puppy dogs all over your reel like and they said no no they're listening to individual words and i was like the individual words bullshit it's fucking the entire sentence but and now there seems to be a sort of oh that's an option but i'm pretty sure it's been planted i'm sure this has always been an option and it's never been effective yeah as you can see in this overview you can access the your algorithm controls by tapping on the top right what does it do though so i've been using it and i changed my feed completely i put on like editing tutorials film lighting and like my feed is like all educational now it's helped a lot yeah it's pretty awesome and i think more people should know about it because yeah i think sometimes my fear is that i'm trapped in this algorithm of times that maybe weren't my best self or like times where i just or just what they fed you yeah for sure you know and you get fed braziers and this and that and it's all targets big response you know big it triggers big emotions it's all outrage mostly right and it's all about right it's like dopamine or uh fucking what's gonna testosterone you know yeah yeah so nick you feel like it has been effective a hundred percent and then but if i do see something i'm like i don't want that then you just do see like the three dots and see less of and it's really transformed it oh cool i feel like i'm getting educated when i go on a lot yeah that's the place i want to be in it's like god just for some you know get me there but i guess it's i have to take some action too you know but that's good to know that that's effective yeah apparently paramount plus is your streaming home for the nfl on cbs all season long that's right football fans stream your live 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And, and we just don't tend to make any as much, so much now where, where the, there's insane action and car chases and intensity, but that's matched by the intensity or there's a momentum and a continuity with the emotional intimate scenes as well. And, and it was one of the best things I'd read in years. Um, it, it, it, it, it certainly wasn't the types of scripts I was being sent and I had an interest in doing something very different. And, um, this came along and it was up there with my top sort of two, three films that I've done. Yeah. That I've been a part of. Yeah. Was it like the personal challenge? I mean, your character is kind of this, um, he's a, uh, kind of a, he's a bad guy that's questioning what's going on with himself. For sure. Yeah. Like all of the, like, so Mark Ruffalo plays the detective. I play a jewelry Halle Berry, um, is an insurance broker, uh, and basically all that sort of a crossroads in the, on the, in their life, um, around, you know, the, the, the Mark's characters facing police corruption. And, and if he speaks up, he'll be sent one way. And if you follow suit, he'll, he'll get a promotion and Halle Berry is facing, you know, ageism and feels like she's being passed over. And my guy is, is in that same sort of that moral ambiguity and that sort of gray space of, you know, justifying his criminal criminality. Um, we show the audience and present the, you know, that he has, um, come from meager means difficult times in and out of foster homes. And again, not to excuse any of what he does, but it raises, I think the, the question of how one got to that point, but he does live by a very strict code. His, um, there's sort of non-violent, you know, violence throughout his, uh, his robberies, but, he's at a point where he's seeking personal freedom and an escape from this world. And it's presented with this one final sort of heist, which is, could be the exit. And it's each character sort of on a collision course for one another and all sort of interweaved to this pretty, pretty, uh, I found pretty sort of fascinating sort of crescendo and finale, but he, um, he's a good guy, you know, he's, he's wrestling with, I think not having, you know, in my sort of backstory with it, not having strong paternal figures or parents, but, you know, a lot of parental figures that, that were of, um, you know, held integrity or maturity for him to look to and, and, and to be, I guess, modeled behavior by. So, you know, like a lot of guys that we were speaking to and research guys in that, in the criminal world came from broken homes and you seek connection and brotherhood and safety and kind of all the wrong places. And, and, um, that's why a lot of guys end up in gangs as sort of, you know, there's family there. Yes. Connection. Yeah. And then it's also, they're pushing back against the system. So in their eyes gave them nothing. So it's like, well, screw you, I'm going to, you know, what did, what did the insurance companies or the banks or the, you know, the high end jewelry fashion, um, entities ever give me. And so again, none of this is a, my justification for the life of crime, but I think that the script does a great job at presenting deeper, uh, further layers and a deeper sort of, um, presentation about just people, you know, and the human experience. I agree with that. I think that we are one thing I noticed. About it is there's a bit more of the story element. There's a bit more of like, you have the action, you have this sort of, um, you know, uh, you had this like a little bit of like, I don't know if it's like fast and the furious meat sort of, um, like jewel thievery, you know, sort of like you have this high energy, but you have us, you have some sincere storylines about what's going on with these people and, uh, and just how people get into positions maybe that they didn't even want to be in, but there they are. And how do we still view them as people? And then how do they then operate to the best of their ability, even in, not even the best circumstance? Absolutely. Yeah. Does that make any sense or not? No, it did for sure. Yeah. It should have been the tagline. That's the most since I've made in a while. I've been in the press tour for three weeks and I wish I had that, that quote. It's been a rough, far more succinct than the, uh, the past year I haven't been able to get something out. It's been tough, man. No, it's true. And it does it sort of, uh, I think when it, right, like it doesn't spoon feed or jam down the audience's throat, the answers and conclusions for things. It offers up ideas. And again, in, in the moral ambiguity space of right and wrong, it's like not it's nothing's just black and white. And we love to sort of categorize things. It's easiest for us to understand, but when you kind of get an insight into someone's life window, their backstory, you go, oh shit, if I was faced with that, or I'd come from that, would I make this decision? And if I had an opportunity that was, you know, lawfully wrong or immoral on one hand, well, could I justify it through this lens? And if it was going to pull me into personal freedom and escape this shitty position, I'm in, would I do it? And then, so you're asking those questions as, as you're along for the ride, hopefully. And, and, um, I, and I find that the kind of the beauty of filmmaking and storytelling is when you're not, when you're, when you're given as a choose your own adventure, sort of internal process that can, that can occur with what your assumptions are, but also not, um, not being so quick to judge, you know? Yeah. Cause there's moments you're like, oh, this guy's scary. Like your character where he's like, oh, he's kind of, he's scary. You know, he's dangerous. He doesn't care if people die, but then you see a, well, he has kind of a code of his own and how he operates within this space. Um, you know what he thinks of love, what he thinks possible for him. Um, yeah, it just had a deeper layer than just like sort of a smash and grab, kind of like heist. Yeah. That was the goal. You know, it had a little bit of a James Bond ask in the sense of like, you know, some of this chase scenes and stuff like that reminded me of some of that energy. Yeah, for sure. Like some of the music that went with it, there were certain moments where it gave me some of that energy. Kind of you see heat or, um, the Michael Mann and collateral, it was kind of like those types of films were a big, a big sort of comp where the, the action that was the real realism and a grit and authenticity to it. But, um, you had complex emotional sort of characters along the way as well. So yeah. It's a fun one. You ever steal anything good when you were young? You guys ever steal anything? Um, blow dart a wallaby and sneak over there and run it out of somebody's house. Blow dart a wallaby? Did you say? Yeah. Just put him down. You think one dart would take a wallaby down or not? Um, it depends what kind of tranq is in that dart. You mean like a, like a, like a tranquilizing dart or. Something. Yeah. A dart board dart. Oh, tranq. I'm talking tranq. Yeah. Ah, yeah. They go down there. The wallabies are tiny. The big kangaroos. I don't know. Oh dude. Not some of the ones I seen over there. Yeah. Whatever. We went to that place outside of Melbourne. Ah. We went to that park. Yeah. Ah. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe it was outside of. No, there's a, there's a lot. There's, there's um. Bro, we saw the one that's jacked. We saw the Nate Diaz one. You ever see that video of the guy punching on with a kangaroo? No, no. You didn't see that? Uh, nuh uh. The guy, the wallaby comes up to get his dog and he literally shapes up, throws a left and a right and pop, bang. Just cause it's trying. I think the wallaby's trying to attack his dog where it's got his dog in a headlock or something. Yeah, dude. We saw the one. We were afraid to move, dude. I was waiting for like Keith Peterson to step in. I was waiting for a UFC referee to come in and say to your neutral corners, you know? I was waiting for Mark Goddard. I mean, I don't know why. This guy's, this is, this is, look at this. The wallaby's got this. And who's that? Luke Bryan? He's got the dog in a headlock. Watch this. Ready? Whoop. Whoop. Go. Ready? Whoop. Oof. Jab. It's like. The kangaroo's like, what the fuck. Watch this. Ready? Whoop. Whoop. Is that Luke Bryan? Oh, that's beautiful. That is beautiful, dude. I mean. That dog should have been able to get free, though. That's a big dog. Oh, they're pretty strong, these things. And they got little, little talons. Big, big old claws on them. Oh, dude. The ones, we saw the ones that were very scary. But I had such a great time, man, in your country. How long were you there for? We were there for probably two weeks, dude. One of my favorite times was like, um. We got some, just some e-bikes. And we went. During the day, we would go up and down the Gold Coast on the. You could. Yeah. You could bike on the sand. Like, basically in the water if you want. And there would be nobody out there all day. I know. And we would just. Yeah. Dude, it was like. It almost felt like we were on another planet, man. Yeah. And then I got to meet Chris. Chris Lilly came out. Oh, yeah. When I was in. Did you ever see his shows back in the day? Oh, yeah. Fucking hilarious. Stop looking at me dick, mom. That's my dick, dad. Man. He did that. That's my dick. Yeah. Stop touching my dick. Yeah. Fuck you, dad. What'd you say? Yeah. I said, fuck you. I said, fuck you. Yeah. It's a picture of my dick. Yeah. Jonah bro and what a legend dude to get to meet him it literally felt like you were meeting something like a rare bird that showed up yeah on a branch to talk with you for a little bit oh yeah I remember crossing paths with him when I when I first started acting and you passed across yeah as in like he was a mate of a mate of mine and and crossing paths and and just being he was just a what he would kind of came up with was like I want to say kind of back when the office was first coming up with that mockumentary style so he played like seven or eight different characters and um yeah talented dude oh dude mr g do the musical yeah a lot of it like kind of bad habit for drugs dude oh my god dude the fact that we can say cheese room cheese room welcome to mr cheese room the fact we can say the floor and still laugh right now is oh my that is good stuff yeah that was like pre kind of like I think a lot of it was is is you know isn't acceptable now he wouldn't be able to make any of it now but like oh but then that was before anything and it was I'd make it with him in a heartbeat dude if he wanted a call I'm sure he's looking to make some people now would make it easy because you could put it out yourselves it's like you could do it yourself and put it out I think he's in the sort of cancel space a culture he kind of got I think he felt that more than it was very real oh really oh I think so I think the reality of people yeah like I think like even like people like I think like I don't know if he was if people thought he was making fun of aboriginal culture or Tongan culture what it was and yeah Polynesian dude those people I mean I it depends who does who do you spoke to yeah that's a good point I had Polynesian buddies who like loved him and then other guys that were like nah it's not cool bro oh I see and um but I yeah it's what's not cool me dick you know but yeah I feel you dude it was crazy I love the way you've seen all that dude when he would do the break dancing bro oh my god and what was Jermaine Jermaine the uh oh yeah oh my god he's a year seven oh god bless him brother go go watch that if you've never seen summer high tie summer high tie you can't find it anywhere except for on YouTube yeah I think on some like a distant channel but it's out there um are there things where you want to like when you're relating with your dad are the you want to make sure that he knows now like is the responsibility that you feel as a child that it's like okay how do I make sure he's okay yeah like is it does that make any sense yeah and I think from having kids as well and even for other people that are experiencing this like since you've had experience with it like if you could just maybe share a little bit of that so when I um had the premiere and in uh back in Australia I had someone come up to me afterward for crime 101 no sorry for for the documentary with my dad okay for limitless a road road trip say it again for a road trip to remember got it and he um there's someone come up to me and and he said I was diagnosed around the same time your dad was and I wish my kids could see this because no one asks me how I am or what I'm what I'm afraid of or what I'm experiencing because people are nervous they don't know how to discuss it so they dance around it and pretend it's not happening and he goes so you suffer in silence and the biggest thing I think that has helped that my dad has responded to and I'm thankful for having gotten to this place is asking him to tell me what's going on and I'm like okay I'm gonna tell you what's going on and I'm asking him how he's feeling about it you know because it's you know you talk to your parents about this stuff and then your parents pass away and then who do you talk to and it hit me that god he doesn't have his dad to go and have these hard conversations or these vulnerable moments with or his mom anymore and um so trying to give him that give him that space but also I he I know there's a I remember 15 years ago that transition of when him realizing he wasn't the authority and he knew we as we as you know young men now working and knew more about things and weren't seeking his advice as much I remember seeing that on his face and that and it not registering enough for me to do anything about it but kind of being aware that like the changing of the guard was occurring and so I go to him now and and um and I'll ask him things that I may know the answer to you know or or just so he feels like there is still agency and and he has the autonomy and and they want to see thank you um they want to feel like they still matter on this purpose you know it's a good point you don't think about that that when that change in the guard happens that there's a there's a value loss or potential like hypothesized value loss for the parent oh for sure and I even my kids my daughter's 13 my boys are 11 and I'm already feeling that like oh I'm not cool and I'm not necessarily who they look to and and it's like you know and they're young yeah they're watching Andrew Tate or whatever they're watching all sorts of bullshit and have other role models but but it's it's like I think you know and then I'm 42 you know but I can't imagine in the 60s 70s when that that gap becomes you know far greater and especially facing you know having dementia and realizing your memories are being stripped away and that vulnerability that just making sure they still feel like that the that they are of purpose and that they have an opinion and the opinion matters and so yeah if anyone's going through it that would be my advice is check in with them ask them how they're feeling ask them what they're afraid of because no one asked such a great question what are you afraid of yeah it's easy to say hey how are you yeah but that's not the same thing and that won't bring out the answer like I asked him on the show and he went I just don't want to be a burden and it was like oh fuck and I had no idea that he felt that you know I thought it was going to be about the kind of you know losing you know control of this and that and but it was like he was more concerned with what it was going to do to the you know the group yeah that's what my mom said sometimes I don't want to be any burden yeah and it makes me think like oh yeah like I don't know and in some ways I've always wanted my mom to be like a burden like I don't know like the inverse of a burden kind of whatever that is like a positive burden or just like I don't know like a beautiful responsibility or it's yeah but like it but for that to say yeah I don't want to be a burden do you find that it gives you purpose though you know like it's like having this time with him as kind of confronting as it's been has also given me a sense of like what matters and also it's like the roles do transfer and at a certain point as an adult you've got to realize oh I now need to take care of them right and you know and especially men I don't know but in Australia there's a real like you know um avoidance around that sort of vulnerability or the other sort of admittance to I may be afraid of something or I need a hand and so offering that up rather than having to get them to come to you and say please check in with me that's a huge thing yeah what are you afraid of yeah yeah because that's really what I want to know probably yeah yeah the other day I was thinking like I I messaged my mom and I was like hey mom is there anything that you need is there any like trip that you've always wanted to take is there anything because you know now I have some finances where I could help do something you know or if she wants to do something you know and uh or is there anything that you know yeah is there anything that you want you know and she's like nothing that I can think of you know whereas you always think that it's like oh I'm gonna get these like I'll have the ability to do this thing and that'll make it perfect but it's like no that's not real I always thought that like I would buy my mom things and jewelry and she was like it's lovely but like I want your time you know I mean just yesterday she was like can I schedule in one of your meetings to just get 15 minutes just with you and I was like oh and she goes well I'm sort of half joking but serious and and you forget like yes when you get busy like it's like yeah I'll get to that I'll get to that at least you can put her off on one of your other good-looking brothers you know yes like that's got to be nice like look talk to the other brother you know dude I bet you didn't even have wallpaper it was just mirrors everywhere just mirrors were so excited like he's coming he's coming sorry dude this is seeming a little big whatever bro pull me a fosters you ever drink fosters I think I have yeah it's the big can I like drinking this is what I would do though I would drink it with two hairs if I had a big old like extra large absurd can for a while oh it reminded me of um it's a beer of of Sean and Marley you ever seen Sean and Marley no oh bro bring them up they're Aussies man Sean and Marley they're the best yeah get down with Sean and Marley put me on there show me on you never seen these guys dude these guys are the best Chris if you bro next time you're home this is one of the best times I ever had in my whole life do you do this in Australia or here yeah in Australia how you going dude they do they're chefs I've never seen these guys thank you boys thank you for welcoming me here yes yeah I'm very happy to be here I would say this very fun he come to us and and come see me and Sean from USA yes you've been to have you been to America I can't remember yeah and look it's becoming unmemorable I'll tell you that get to the part with the beer though we made beer chicken right so these guys do recipes bro if you ever like yeah I'm not saying but this would be an easy thing for you to go and do a um a little shower with a little cooking and bro they live at they live they don't live together one of them has down syndrome one I don't think one of them does but um one of them is just Korean or whatever so yeah yeah They're just mates, but they've been friends for a long time. We made beer chicken, right? How was it? Oh, dude. Yeah, it was good. But Marley took the beer right out, the hot beer, and just drank it straight out of the oven. Frickin' legend, brother. With chicken juice and scalding hot temperature. Look at that. That can is probably 200 degrees, bro. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Your receptors is off, baby. You got to come up a little bit. Bro, he drank that bitch right out of the thing, bro. But, dude, their families are so sweet, and they invited us over to their home. And they made, like, up there, there's a piece of art up above, like, on the mantel up there on the right. Yeah. Right there. They made, like, a rat for, like, the rat king. Like, they did, like, special things to make it just for me. But their families are there, dude, and it's, like, the best. And they have the best time. But, bro, just to even, you would, it was honestly, I think it was the best part of my trip besides getting to perform the shows. Yeah. But that's right outside of Sydney, I believe. Yeah. We just got a Rabbit Eyes top on, which is Russell Crowe's rugby team, which is a Sydney team. Oh, yeah? Sydney team, yeah. That green and red. Oh, that must be the Heroes then. Because they'll go to a lot of the games and stuff like that. But Sean and Marley are the best, bro. They are legends, dude. Check them out. And I think they still do the show all the time, so that'd be pretty cool to go see it. Whenever you get into spaces where you're, like, you know, we were talking earlier about, like, kind of regrouping and getting a new look at things. And, like, you know, having. Having some moments of self-evaluation and reflection and seeing if, like, my old dreams are still my current dreams and where have they gotten me and what do I do now and enjoying kind of the freedom of not knowing or not being sure exactly where I'm at in my journey. What are the practices that you go to to help you gain a little bit more clarity there? Like, could it be something like just spending time with certain people or meditation? Like, are there some practices that you use? Yeah. For me, I'm not great at, like, traditional seated. Meditation. I could benefit from it if I was to sort of force myself to do it. But I prefer physical movement, like training, you know. Surfing for me is an obvious one. Oh, yeah? It's a complete. I've done that since I was, you know, 10 years old. And if I spend too long out in the ocean, my whole sort of, you know, being starts to suffer in one way or the other. Not just vitamin D, but this sort of, I don't know, that sort of magnetic pull the ocean has to me. But that's my true happy place. So, yeah, I spend a lot of time surfing. You're comfortable enough on a surfboard to make a gang sign, dude? That is. That's actually in a wave pool. That's in Abu Dhabi in the mechanical man wave. Have you been to Pipe? Yeah. Dude, I just went like two weeks ago. I went 15 years ago once. It's cool, huh? Bro, it was so cool. It was awesome. I didn't know they had the Lexus pipeline competition was going. Oh, yeah, right. Of course. And so I went. Each day when I went, it had been canceled for the day because the conditions weren't perfect. But that's one thing that's so amazing about it. It makes it so unique about these surf competitions is that it can only happen if the water is right. Yeah. So it was like it was almost this little Mecca that we'd make each day because about an hour from where I was staying, which was silly. I should have just stayed up in the North Shore. But I get there and we and they're like, yeah, it's canceled for the day. But it was just like even seeing that and seeing like, oh, this is a real thing. Like so many people come out and like and they all the surfers stay are in this place. And like it gave me a whole different appreciation for it. Yeah. It's especially pipe. I mean, that event is they wait for it to be big and intense and beautiful. And if it's not going to hit those, you know, that if it's not going to live up to that, they don't run the competition until it does. And so you're often in for a pretty epic week of competition. But that place is talk about like the power of the ocean. And different regions, you know, that you'll have a six foot wave there, which feels like fucking 20 foot compared to what a six foot wave would be in a beach break somewhere else. And the way the ocean comes from big, deep water and just hits big slabs of reef is pretty, pretty mind blowing and awe inspiring and special, man. It's cool. You feel the power of it all. Yeah. Do you ever surfed? I surfed. I used to live in Charleston, South Carolina. I would surf out there some. So I could do it, but I would need to go. I would need to focus on it. I think it just like recently what I've been thinking is, man, I just want to like, and it's like I could do it, but it's like, you know, podcasting, it's a lot of attention. You know, you're like going for the next week. It's like having a show every week. Yeah. And so you're preparing. And sometimes we do two a week now because there's so many different people to talk with. Yeah. And so. It's another skill you've got to learn. It's another. It's a lot of hours. Yes. And it's hard to like feel like I'm always like. All right. I got to make sure this next one is OK. Yeah. I'm never at a place where I feel like. Yeah. So it's like I need to give myself a little more space and grace and just be like, OK, if you do go for a week or two, go do some things that you also want to enjoy. You know, I do find it hard to switch off. What do you mean when you when you have. Yes. I do find it hard to switch off, but I also find it like, you know, like take some time and go do these things. And I'm not complaining. I know I can do it. I think it's just like it's. Like we're talking about earlier, like having that space in your life. Yeah. Letting the uncertain have a little bit more room to walk around, you know. Yeah. Yeah. The observation. Yes. Stepping back. It's like. Yeah. Like, what will I see if I were to go have some new experiences like, you know. Yeah. And what will I learn when I'm a little separate? And just being like that is as much of the value as being sitting here looking under the microscope. Yeah. Is standing out of the room and and not even being in the laboratory, you know. And just like having some of that energy. So I'm not complaining. I know I can do it. But it's just like. That's some of it probably is a fear. Yeah. You know. No, it's hard to get off the the train of when there's momentum with anything. And especially if you've been shocked by the handbraking of when it doesn't work out or things are kind of static and you're sitting on shit on the or I was had that type of energy and so to sort of willingly by your choice step off is is there's a risk to that. But it also is kind of scary because it's like there's a safety net and just carrying on is as exhausting and massive. Maybe detrimental it could be because you're missing other things. It's like the there's a risk involved. But again, I'm sure with you, you've found the same thing in life when you've stepped outside of the bubble. The bigger lessons are learned. The bigger sort of experiences occur. And I think I came from that place where that was the thing I love the most. Yeah. You know, but it's OK. It's all interesting. And I think that's why I like even just having time like this today to think about this. It's like, yeah, we've been talking and we've been podcasting, but it's like I think this is a conversation. Yeah. That I just needed to hear, you know. Oh, cool. So me too. I mean, it's like I said at the start of none of it I've figured out. It's like I just keep continually sort of asking and exploring and then hopefully not being too bogged down in having to come up with the outcome of the definitive certainty of it's just staying curious. I feel like is the is the more fulfilling place to be in. You know, you're going. Are you almost back to Australia heading back home? Yeah. I have the premiere tonight for Crime 101. Oh, yeah. And I fly back home. I fly back home tomorrow. I've been gone for three weeks and it's hard, man. It's like with kids. Oh, and they're here with you now. No, no. And they're at the age where it like they weren't really aware of time, you know, for a long time. And now they're like, it pisses them off, you know, and it's like, well, how long you said this? And, you know, I used to say. You're supposed to be here, Dad. You're supposed to be here and you're never here. And then it's like. It's not a dick, Dad. Yeah. It's not a dick. A dick, Dad. So. Stop looking at my dick, Mies. Mies. Mies. Touch my dick. Touch my dick, Mies. Bro, that kid was crazy to be saying dick that much at school. Like 24-7 as well. He's a wrangler. He's a wrangler, Mies. Yeah, yeah. Bro, wrangler. Stop calling him a wrangler. Well, he is, Mies. Why not? Yeah, yeah. Dude, and didn't his dad come down one time? Yeah, his dad come down because. No, this is the funniest part. So he does a drawing and it's basically a drawing of. An image leaning over and touching him on the groin. And he's just taking the piss. And the teacher's like, what's this? He's like, oh, that's me and my dad. You know, so she comes down. The principal's involved. The teacher's involved. And then they call the dad in. And they're like, yeah, we're really concerned about, you know, what's happened. And he goes, yeah, I made it up. And then the dad loses his shit. What the fuck? What would I touch his dick for? What did you fucking say? Oh. Oh. Thank God there's humor in the world. Oh, my God. What else? What else? You know, if we can't laugh and have fun and enjoy the experience, what the hell are we doing? What's the way that you communicate with your children or teach them to communicate that you think has been like a novel choice for you or something that you brought along from a place that you learned? Like, have you has that been a practice for you to do that? Because it just seems like you try to, like, have some awareness about, like, why you think certain ways and why you operate. Yeah. Whereas some people don't. Is it even possible to incorporate that into some of your kids' interactions and lives? You do. But I think the biggest thing I've learned is nothing I say is really imprinted. It's like they learn by example. And if I'm not modeling that behavior, it doesn't matter how many times I tell them, you know, do as I say, not as I do. It's just, it's rubbish. And so if I'm trying to tell them to get off their phones and so on or stop swearing and this, I've got to do it, you know, but it exposing them to, to, to nature. You know, like there, and we lived in LA for, probably 10 years my wife and i before we had kids and then we had kids we were here for about a year or two and it was like kind of chaos trying to do anything with the kids and paparazzi and and so on and moved back to australia and what pervert would take pictures of a kid that's the weird thing you know except for most of the people in our yeah except this business except for most capitalists and yeah and hollywood elites oh it's brutal yeah no and and so we went back home and we just didn't get that that sort of attention and it's been a good choice you made the best ever like a big conscious choice to leave the the the environment that was kind of even for my own personal sanity like reminded of what i was doing or what i was not doing and so it's very hard to escape the kind of work the thought process but for them just to look to expose them to what i thought was a normal you know upbringing and being as much outdoors and so we have a farm and they surf motorbikes and horses and and look what a luxury that is you know that's not where um like we grew up in the in the bush but we had no money you know and and now very different sort of financial circumstances but and that's the trick is trying to teach them the same sort of appreciation and gratitude that i had learned by not having my parents not having money but now we're equipped very differently and um that's tough to do it's a really tricky one you know but but it's hard to teach your kids your same struggle yeah and it's so you try and and it's hard to teach your kids your same struggle yeah and it's so you try and expose them to sort of different situations or parts of the world but it's also in sort of in discussing with them the not taking it for granted and having gratitude for it um but also yeah you know i talk to my mom about this all the time and she's like i could show you you know whether on this pay scale or you know this end of the spectrum finance or not healthy and unhealthy people and it's about love and security and do they still feel safe to explore this world and explore who they are genuinely you know and do they feel seen and so making sure we're there and present and when i'm not working i'm 100 there and in your head's not somewhere else but um just getting them outdoors you know it's it's it's the biggest thing they went to a school traditional sort of school and then we put them in the school where it's just like 15 kids and three teachers and they surf for two hours in the morning and then they do like really focused learning for a couple hours in the afternoon and it's it's kind of like homeschooling in a way but they they're absorbing that information more because they've exerted energy through the through the day but there's less kids and more teachers so there's far more kind of personal interaction but the it's almost like sort of accidental learning where they'll they'll talk about you know their math class might be around shaping a surfboard so it's you know six foot two and eighteen and a half inches and you know what's the leaderage and the volume and so they're calculating you know what's what's what's going on and so they're calculating things where there's there's an invested interest as opposed to just numbers on a board and and you know has it been working well god they're happier than they've ever been really they've been at school for a year and a half or two years and that's a blessing man yeah and a lot of people are talking about homeschool here more in america you're starting to see a lot more of it yeah i'm friends with candace owens and she talks about this all the time is like get your kids into a space if you can yeah where other like neighborhood moms or dads are also doing the teaching and people are playing i'd be worried if it was homeschooling me trying to teach them you know that would be we did that in covert and that was a nightmare and um you were teaching them during covet oh just all of us were being every parent was being sent like the curriculum and it was like trying to teach them math you know grade five math that none of it made any sense to whatever math i learned in high school 20 years ago and i was like let's go outside never surf and you know would you have a chalkboard or whatever no oh no we had just like it was to get them to do the right one sentence was just like world war three it was all three of them were just like constant protest and not listening and i called my buddy who was their teacher and i said how are you doing it he goes mate i can't even get my own teachers they're my kids to do it he said let's just catch up when this thing passes so we had outdoor education which was like yes adventure homeschooling hits record numbers last year last academic year diy education grew at nearly three times the average rate it did during the covet 19 pandemic so it's growing at three times the rate that it did during covet that's unbelievable in the 2024 2025 school year homeschooling continued to grow across the united states increasing in an average rate of 5.4 percent amen dude yeah i think the system in a lot of places can be contrived so yeah um to have some autonomy over you what your children are learning this is nearly three times the pre-pandemic homeschooling growth rate of almost two percent recent estimates put the total homeschooling population at about six percent of students across the united states compared to about three percent pre-pandemic i wonder how much of that is like you know parents teaching their kids or grew a group you know 10 or 12 like i said that's the problem i think it's it's class sizes are too big you've got one one person for 30 kids it's like god fucking good luck you know whereas having more of a sort of mentorship tutoring sort of program where it's less children more teachers but oh yeah when there's just some connection yeah because when you're just sitting there and you're just you're almost just like a piece of cattle for information that's what you feel like in school a lot of times i would remember that it would be like yeah well there's just this information i write it down and it's like what are we there's it doesn't feel like no there's no relationship to it there's got to be a better way to do this and there's no real relationship to each other while we're learning and except you're like a dick on someone on the desk um let me see the fraction of parents saying k through 12 education is heading in the wrong direction was fairly stable from 2019 to 2022 but rose in 2023 and then again in 2024 to its highest level in a decade um the reasons for the move away from public schools certainly vary from family to family but there have been notable developments in recent years during the pandemic many parents and their children have been forced to leave their homes and work from home to go to school and so i think it's important for us to be 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i love the show and and have been excited to come on for a long time so thanks it was fun and i appreciate it and tell everybody in australia that i said what's up and we're coming back there dude and we're gonna go to the beach and we're gonna do everything you hit me up that's right we've got an e-bike and we'll we'll we'll hit the coast good day yeah good day for that um all right cheers man thank you so much thanks so much now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones endless summer escapes start here travel the worlds of netflix irl inspired by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game brave the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games shop exclusive merch and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play eat and shop on repeat at netflix house balleria dallas bring your crew and save get your 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