Chris Hansen GOES OFF On Robert Pattinson’s Primetime Movie

In this episode Chris Hansen comes in and unloads about a new movie that's about him prime time kind of interesting I think you're gonna enjoy Alicia Krauss who's doing the news will do all that right after this Hello, and welcome to Pluto foe if you know the name of the movie you'd like to see just stream it for free on Pluto TV We're all your bloodbusters favorites are landing all summer long catch anchor man the legend of Ron Burgundy It's fantastic the matrix trilogy welcome to the real world mean girls side up I'm the key in the world and so much more for showtime's press nothing. They're free 24/7. That is so Pluto TV stream now pay never This episode of the Adam Corolla show is brought to you by simply safe From Corolla one studios in Glendale, California. This is the Adam Corolla show Adams guest today Chris Hansen plus the news with Alicia Krauss and now Adam Corolla Yeah, get it on got to get it on the choice looking on the mandate you get it on Thank you to an event telling a friend love that about you Chris Hansen back in studio. It was great to see Chris Thank you for having me Yeah, it's been busy. It's been busy I I think I may be the only person Alive who was on stage at the RNC I saw you on a Wednesday night and then 48 hours later I was in Vegas on stage with Jimmy Kimmel for an hour at his club And I don't know if there's anyone else who can say I don't think they were did both those things yes in the world As we know it just which I think is great. I do too and here's why I think it's great because you have your own style Your own perspective on things very funny very bright. Obviously your old pal has a completely different take on a lot of things Including the current administration, but you don't let your individual beliefs harm your friendship No, we had a Great time. I was doing the late show on a Friday night at his club in Vegas He's never been there when I've been there and I've been there a lot I looked to my left And I felt a presence to my right like a little shadow in the peripheral and I thought some assholes hopped up on stage And cuz I did not See Jimmy take the stage. I was looking to see it the crowd saw it as you like turned around or something I don't I don't know if he I think he came from the back is is what happened and I just turned around There was a dude there and it was a moment of like oh shit And then it's Kimmel and then it was like oh great And then I thought he was gonna say a couple things maybe bust my chops for a minute and then get on with his night He never left They're from the whole night. That's great. The whole The whole act I stopped doing my act. We just started reminiscing and riffing and it turned into that and afterward We're like all right. Well, let's go out now that you're here to tell the other thing. That's great Maybe you have a you know a future act with him Take it on the road You know the thing you know the thing about Because I remember so years ago and I don't want to interrupt. I'll show you this but no but there used to be A roadshow with Haley Barber The Republican and Leon Panetta the Democrat And they would go it wasn't a comedy show, but they had fun with it And they took shots at each other But it was almost like the days of Reagan and and Tip O'Neill right you can you can choke each other out a little bit But at the end of the day it's good entertainment to hear both sides of an issue You know, I totally agree and I think there's like going out Doing some sort of man show reunion or something. I think that would be I'd go would be fun. I go except for I don't think Jimmy Jimmy's probably flush enough where there's no So it's kind of like it comes that way with band he might let bands are sort of that way or like you want to get You want to get the lead singer back to the band, you know just to do it Yeah, yeah, but the problem is a lot of you know if Harry Styles is selling out arenas all over the world It's hard to get him back to reunite with the boys, you know, I mean So in this equation, I would be Harry Styles if you're if you're asking tracking. Yeah, so Chris has tons of stuff going on. I mean, there's the documentary dangerous games. That's the the roadblock One which is all up to that coming soon too. Yeah, that's on true blue now It just set the table with that Company or that app or whatever it is so roblox is a multi-billion dollar publicly traded company that that has created Over the last 20 years a massively popular gaming platform So kids can go on and play games the characters often look like you know harmless Friendly Lego characters and they can do all kinds of stuff. Then there's another level where creators Take part in making games that be very popular. So there's a there's an individual money making component a corporate money making component and What we found in our investigation It is oftentimes a playground for predators And the question is and there are Thousands and thousands of victims children who are preyed upon by predators because they know the kids are in there The parents think this is very safe right that they can let their kids roam around and do whatever they want right and so We dug into it and we found numerous cases Where the company wasn't policing this appropriately roblox refused to talk to me in the course of the investigation on camera But I had several briefings and my question to them among many others is why not let law enforcement conduct an investigation on your platform If you think it's safe if you put so many safeguards in place right But they can be lured there and taken to places like discord which is you know kind of a cesspool for this sort of activity And we did a presentation a young activist named schlep because my schlep online we did a presentation at crime con where I actually was on roblox I'm gonna count posing as a kid within seconds Freak freak for real probing asking what I'm doing and what I want to do and All of a sudden my account the count I'm using gets bad. So somebody from roblox was either in the crowd watching or was monitoring on Fox nation Freak freak for real his account stator for weeks right but the innocent kid gets paranoid because they know it's Chris Hansen right the system What was the dating site that Nazi tattoo guy was on that everyone was kind of saying that's kind of a suspect site and you can look Andrew I am so naive about all this stuff like he's like that's just a dating site and everyone else is like nobody goes that Kick I guess it is kick kick but we we see that being used in our Take down predator investigations, but kick the roblox thing. Yeah Because we have such a presence now on social media. I mean, I've got to be the only 67-year-old guy in America who's got a million point one followers on tiktok right but people reach out to me with stuff so this woman reaches out Because she knows I'm doing this Investigation to roblox. It turns out her husband. She lives in Harlingen, Texas She catches her husband grooming an underage kid in California Catches him report some to police You know, they start looking into it and she reaches out to me. So I go down and interview her Right, we get the goods and then I take him off in the parking lot They're separated at this point and confront him with the tax better your style, right? And he's I did Yeah, you know, we'll talk about it So we have this organic Part of the documentary Unfolding as it happens in real time. They end up getting a statement from the girl in California. They prosecute him And I don't have a crew down there at this moment and I said Get the arrest on your cell phone and she gets that the wife the wife Wow, so we have all this incorporated that in the documentary that just evolves organically Because of our relationship with the people who follow our work on true blue, you know on and the digital platforms How does the grooming work they start with People and say oh, you like what baseball? I don't like baseball too. Yeah, whatever They pose as a child and adult poses as a child We've seen these cases on roblox where they meet They go into separate chat rooms the parents don't know What protections to put in place oftentimes sometimes they're with grandma They're in Iowa and suddenly hey, I'd like to meet, you know But I'm a little bit older, but I'd like to do this and I'll give you that and you know It's the grooming process and suddenly they're picking the girl up from a McDonald's in Iowa and taking her down to Tennessee to some Secret hideaway where they're gonna sexually exploit this child Oh god, and what about I just learned about prime time the move. Yeah, what about that? I heard about it Playing Chris Hansen everybody got a big a-lister playing you. Oh, he's good. He's nice looking. So that's a good looking. That's that's a good thing He's doing that you a little bit, but not full. I don't know. I could hear a little of the voice They didn't have the courtesy to come to me Mm-hmm about making the movie they never do they never do and a 24 and again, you know look Robert Patinson's a great actor. He seems like a nice guy. He's been very gracious to me in his comments. I've not seen the movie. I was supposed to go see it. They wanted an NDA signed and I refused to sign it. That would hold the buckle there. But they they come to be on May 27th and say, "Hey, we're doing this movie. I had heard about it. Obviously, you're not an investigative reporter for 45 years. I was hip to it was going on, but we didn't know much about it." They sent me a trailer to say, "This is going out tomorrow." The trailer. The trailer. We want you to see it. We also want you to help promote the film. I said, "Well, how do you want to do that?" They said, "Well, we buy some ad space on your platforms, true blue, your podcasts, all the stuff." I said, "Well, we'd like to see the movie first." They said, "Well, we'll get to that." Over the period of several months, we asked to see it, asked to see a script, asked to see the whole thing. I hear from Lance Oppenheim indirectly through another friend of mine that he's the director. He's the director. It's very high score on Rotten Tomatoes right now. It's a hot topic. He's a hot director. He says, "The love letter to Chris." Anyway, we start to see more and more of this play out. We find out that it's a complete work of fiction, overly dramatized, and it portrays everybody involved, myself included, as these power-hungry greedy media people. I watched the whole trailer. Nothing in that trailer happened in real life. The real media stuff that they claim happened didn't happen. I don't even wear a tie ever, and that's just a sidebar to this thing, but nothing ever happened. I go to the screening. I know they want this NDA sign. I have seen the NDA, and I know I'm not going to sign it. We show up at 824 offices in New York. Nice people, nice publicity people. What would incentivize you to sign a non-disclosure? Nothing. No lawyer would ever let me see it. Yeah, let go. What's in it for you? Yeah. In the 824, I said, "Well, it's just our standard disclosure." I said, "Well, it's standard if your name's not Chris Hanson." Right. Right. So, did you see the film? No. Oh, they still, I'm going to go with everybody else on May 24th of New York. I'm going to go take a crew. We're going to do a special segment on they have a see with Chris Hanson podcast, and we're going to do a special, so I'm going to go see the film with a TV crew and do man on the street interviews afterwards. Wait, you said May 24th? It's May 24th, late in the day, but the official release is, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I keep saying this. It's September. Right. September 24th. Yeah, coming up. Yeah. Coming up. I don't know why I've got May stuck in my head, but May 27th is when it started. When they told me, yeah. Right. That's why I got May. Exactly. So, maybe I should have been a reporter. Yeah, you're good. I'm good with the official particulars. Yeah. So, yeah, in the trailer, which I watched, what did you think of it? It doesn't seem like a flattering portrayal. No, it's not a flattering portrayal. But, but it's interesting. Yeah. And I don't know artistic license. I don't know. It just, it just feels like they're okay. I will say this and you tell me if you find this true. Yeah. People who are listening have no idea how inaccurate things are until somebody writes an article about you. Exactly. And now you have to see everything through that lens. Right. Because when they start writing articles about you, you look at, you don't get three lines in before they fucked up something. Well, some, some, like L.A. Times wrote an article about this thing. Everything was right. Oh, it did. Yeah. I mean, you may not like all the stuff, but it was right. It was correct. It was factual. I know the reporter. He did a great time. Hollywood reporter, factual about, well, this is about about this particular. No, I'm saying that's fine. Yeah. No, no, you can read somebody writing what happened about Monday night, football last night, but when they start writing about you, suddenly you're sensitive, right? That's my identity. Well, no, it just like they get stuff wrong. Yeah. All the time. And they make a movie about, I mean, well, we have it. You know, so we've decided, look, we're going to take advantage of this as much as we can. I mean, I think it's a bit of an insult to lower what we do in our collaborations with law enforcement and the thousands of men and women who work to protect children from predators every day in society. I think it's an insult to lower it to the level they lowered it. Having said that, I think that it's an opportunity for us to capitalize. And that's why we created a 30 second commercial in what space in front of every showing in this movie in 3,500 screens across America that's going to play every time somebody goes to see this movie, right? Before the movie rolls, they see me walk into a kitchen, tell them to have a seat in the theater. Wow. And remind them that this important work continues every day on my streaming network, TrueBlueWatchTrueBlue.com. That's really interesting. So you can buy a 30 second spot after the Coke and the popcorn one. Interesting. That's exactly what we did. I drove to Vegas in an electric car in a Tesla. How did that go? I wanted to kind of share that with people because I think I was pretty apprehensive about getting a Tesla because I wasn't going to be able to make it to Vegas in one clean shot, you know what I mean? The desert being eaten by sneeze. That's right. Or giant alien jerky guy. So I'll tell you what it does. It's kind of interesting. I left here, and it's a brand new Tesla. It's a brand new Tesla. And I just put in the coordinates for Jimmy's Club. Right. In Vegas. And it's self driving this Tesla. It's self driving, but you have to kind of pay attention otherwise. Touch the wheel and it'll give you a time out. Right. If you if you if you stare at your lap for too long. So what it does is you leave and it it already knows we're not making it. We're not making it all the way there in one clean shot. So what it does is it sets its coordinates to the charging place in Baker. Not to Kimmel's place. Or first, we're stopping. And does it tell you that it's going to do this? It basically just goes. You should glean it is what it's saying. Like you should be smart enough to figure this out. And then when it does is it starts calculating. Like you'll be down to 8% by the time we get to the charging station in Baker. Or you'll be down to and that number will move around. Like it'll be 10%. Then it'll go down a little iPhone basically. Yeah. And but it'll go it can it can move around. It can go up a little too. Like you'll have 13% battery by the time we pull it. Yeah. The heat is not the friend of the battery. And then you will pull in. It will pull you in to this charging port station. And it'll tell you you need eight minutes on this charger. And then you can be on your way. Right. And can you get coffee or soda or something at the charging station? Yeah, you go to the middle of nowhere. It would know. It's right in the middle of the wherever you could get a sand with your whatever. Take a leak. Whatever. So you kind of go, well, I'm going to take a piss anyway. So we pull off. Get something to drink. Get back the car. Now the car is not fully charged. But it's charged enough to get you to your destination, which is what it is. The problem is once we were in Vegas, we probably should have charged it up enough so that when we left in the middle of the night to go home on a Saturday night, we didn't have to sit in Baker for 25 minutes at two in the morning. That you got to kind of top it off. And then you can stop and do seven minutes and then continue on. Self drive things. Pretty cool. Yeah. I'm a guy who loves driving. Like driving. I'm the same. You know, I'm a Detroit guy. Yes, you're Detroit guy. One of my cars has the, you know, that semi automatic driving where you can hit it into it'll change lanes. You put the blinker on and it'll change. What kind of car is that? That's a BMW 700. This actually, I didn't think I would enjoy the self driving as much as I do. There's something about it that just kind of takes all the concentration out of it. And I don't think you know, it's kind of low grade concentration, but it's still concentration. You're watching. Yeah, you're sort of relaxed. Yeah, you can just sort of relax. You can't go to sleep. But how is the traffic driving? I mean, are you pretty pretty much on wide open highway without a lot of cars? It'll, it'll, it has three settings. It has like slow, no, I think four. Normal, in a hurry, and then it has Mad Max. And I would, I would hit Mad Max or the problem with Mad Max, is driving out of Vegas, there's a cop and we go blowing right past them. It needs to recognize law enforcement is what it, what it needs. You'd think that it could have some interface with like ways or something where there's interactive. I mean, it'll get there. We just blew past the cop. Didn't you stop it? No, he should have. I don't know how fast does a Tesla like that go? It'll probably get to 120 or something. It was like 55 and we were doing like 73 or something when we passed them in Mad Max mode. Yeah. So you've probably been let out of a few tickets being who you are and recognizable and law enforcement and all that stuff. Is that right? I tend not to drive aggressively. I had one incident I was driving to the Detroit airport. And I was coming from a Michigan State University game. And I was with my son and I think some other neighbors. And I was booting it because I had to drop them off and then I was going to go shoot a story. And my other son was attending Michigan State. That's where I went. Would that have a big win against Oregon less? No. Oh, that was Oklahoma State. Oklahoma and University of Michigan. But anyway, right at that moment, my son looks up from the passenger seat and says, Dad, you're doing nine. Oh, geez, you know, back it down. Of course, I see one of Taylor, Michigan's finest and pulls me over. And I said, hey, how you doing? I said, you know, I'm sorry. I was awesome to give him the airport. I took a wrong turn. I was trying to make up time. Is it kind of your license? And I say, yeah. And he recognized me. And do you have anything on your record? I said, no. And he goes back and runs it. It comes back. Because do you think you could make it to the airport the last quarter mile without breaking the laws of the fine state of Michigan? I said, I think I can do that. Oh, yeah, Michigan. Michigan. The one second. Hail Mary. Well, you know, that was crazy. Michigan state people like me have a blood feud with Michigan people. We hate each other. I have a hate exemption. Like my sister. I don't hate. She went to Michigan. Tom Brady. I don't hate. He went to Michigan. Andrea Fisher. I don't hate. Diane Deets. I don't hate. I have a specific list of people I don't hate to Michigan. But I hate everything else. Right. Because they've been screwing Michigan state for 100 years. Yeah. Keeping us down. Yeah, yeah. And trying to protect themselves. And that was so offensive. What happened? The one western Michigan University. I know. They won this game. The Broncos won. I look. I don't want to be a douche. But I'll tell you old school football coaching. Yeah. Old school football coaching will. They'll line the ball up on the one. And it'll be fourth and one. And they'll go in for it. There's two seconds left. And they don't punch it in. And the coach will go. If we can't make one goddamn yard, we don't deserve to win this game. Exactly. And I'm saying, they still had to throw a Hail Mary. Yeah. But they got one second. Right. And maybe that was a robbery. I think it was a robbery. But they still had to complete a 60 yard pass. Right. With one second. So it's like, on one hand, there's robbery. On the other hand, they still had to do a Hail Mary, which is a real low percentage. You are correct. And you are being objective. If I cannot be objective because I hate Michigan so much. So what I think is, in fact, I was in the gym the other day in New York. And there's a woman, a very nice woman who goes there. And she went to Michigan. And we tease each other. And there's this uneasy truth. She knows I'm going to bring it up and she doesn't win her how. So finally about three quarters away through my workout. I said, hey, do you have a second? Because yeah, what do you need? I go, no, do you have a second? That's funny. We have the theater trailer ready to play by the way. We can take a look. Hold on your hats. It's very dramatic. Yes. Oh, this is my commercial. Yes, your commercial. Sorry. I love this. I'm Chris Hansen. And I'm going to need everyone in the theater to take a seat right over there. You know, I've spent decades working with law enforcement to catch predators before they exploit our children. Now, there are more platforms than ever before where this disturbing crime is being committed. And we are there to take down the predators. Join us undercover every day on my streaming network True Blue. Nice. You have it. That's so, you know, you got blessed America because they did this unauthorized whatever they put you in a tie for Christ's sake. Yeah. What's up with that? What's up with the tie? No turtlenecks. No, I have a beautiful collection of turtlenecks that I wear. And Dickies for summer weather. You know, we had to wear those as kids. Dickies. Yeah. I had them. What, like, you grew up, you must have grown up in a normal household, right? It's, yeah, it's very normal. I mean, very comfortable, but certainly not wealthy. I mean, you know, my mom stayed home to care of the kids. My dad was in sales in the auto industry in Big Bill. What, uh, let's try to figure out how good your mom was. Now, what we do here is we grade them based on their sandwiches. Yeah. And the reason I-- The best sandwiches. The reason I use the sandwich is I can't, it's, there's too many machinations of mom. Well, she didn't get out to my literally games, but she was a full-time nurse. So she couldn't make it during, she worked the shift during the day. And I respect that. I can't write. There's too much, too much film to break down. Right. Sandwich is as easy. Sandwiches, you have to have that much Hoffman's hard salami on whole wheat bread. To judge. That's an inch and seven eighths. My mother, yeah. Okay. So. It's a thick sandwich. Doctors wouldn't come in on it. Dr. Drew had a shit sandwich mom. And her over there had a great sandwich mom. Yeah. She toasted it. Great sandwich. She toasted. She was like working at, like living a quiz nose. Yeah. She toasted his bread. My mom was a no sandwich mom, which is as low as you go. Other-- And then there's everything in between. Yeah. So we can judge the love of mother has for her son. By the effort she puts into the sandwich. Because the sandwich is just a metaphor for how much energy she's putting into you. And everything was individually wrapped and in a bag and beautifully done. And she did the ones you wanted. Absolutely. Well, what was your sandwich? Hard salami. Piece of cheddar. A little mustard. What kind of bread? Whole wheat. Whole wheat. We only had one. Early in childhood, it was a lawless land. Coca-Cola's, Pepsi-Cola's, potato chips, everything. And my mom had a health scare. And probably when I was about in sixth grade. And it spent literally six weeks in the hospital. We'd go around here and got through it. It was fine. But she came out of it a bit of a health nut. Not crazy, but really. Yeah. No more candy except on holidays. No crap. No soft drinks. You know, she buckled on us, which was great. Yeah. But old school health food is not what today's health food is. No. It was pretty much, here's a bunch of shit you can't eat. Right. And then you're like, all right, where's the list of the shit I can eat? We haven't made that list. We just got a list of stuff you can't eat. You can't eat. No more sugar. It's all the shit you want. All the cereal you want. Yeah, the cereal got cut. I mean, I, you know, I've raised on count chocolate and kept a crunch for the first, you know, five or six years. And then all that went away. But at least you got salami. Yeah. Salami roast beef. Oh. See, because I worked at Mr. Pastries bakery in Delhi. Oh, yeah. I would go to Mr. Pastries. And before we got to work, take a hoagie roll and shave off whatever. Delhi meat I wanted and make a huge sandwich just to start the day. Start the evening. So your mom was health food, but she wasn't California health food. No, because California health food. This is suburban Detroit. That was no meat. It was all cut out. Right. You wouldn't get any of it. We had corn beef, salami, roast beef. Occasionally, a cold hamburger that left over from the night before. I'm going here, which I enjoy. So mom would pack the lunch. Mom would pack the lunch for me. And I think for my sister's too. Every morning, she's got up. Yeah. Was it sometimes a night before? Sometimes a night before. Even in high school. Would she do dinner? Yeah. Yeah. Most nights. I mean, sometimes when, you know, as I'm working my way through high school, kids had sports and stuff coming home at different times. So there's always something there. You never walked into an empty kitchen or a situation where you didn't have the ability to warm something. When you were a kid, did you do traditional dinners? Like at night, six o'clock, your dad would come home, sit down. My dad, because he entertained and traveled, our dinners would be closer to seven. Now, when he was gone and traveling, we would be, you know, clockwork, six, six, thirty. And then you would have the opportunity to warm it up if you're late from practice for football or something. But on the weekends, it was all about the traditional dinner, whatever it was, grilling or roast or steaks, whatever it was on the menu. You sat down and ate. And your dad was around doing sales back when it was a thing. He were the guys who invented the three martini launch. Right. And they're part of that whole crew in Detroit. Right. Right. You had to wine and dine people, showing what good it was. We had season tickets to the Tigers, the Lions, the Red Wings. Right. Because he had to take, guess, it was a lot. Remember, it was like a little bewitched, Larry Tate, kind of like showing so's coming to dinner tonight. They're madmen, you know? Right. That's interesting. You got a good dude. He was a very good dude. And he died way too young, sadly. He was, you know, he was a big guy. Didn't take particularly great care of himself. It wasn't a, you know, messy, heavy drinker. But a steady guy. And, you know, that wears you down after a period of time. And, you know, he was heavy and he had a A-Fib. And ultimately, he had a stroke at 64, which took him. But, you know, you look at that and you say, "Okay, how am I going to change my program?" And what example am I going to set for my kids coming? And so you adjust to have longevity. But that didn't take anything away from him in terms of being a good dad. you know, doing the best he was capable of doing-- - Was he around to see your success? - Yeah, he was around, I was 40 when he passed away. So I was at Dateline, he never saw any of the predator stuff. But he saw, you know, a lot of good work that I was very proud of. He saw me cover, you know, the Oklahoma City bombing. He was dead by the time that 9/11 came around. But he saw me do a lot of what I thought was very cool quality work. Simply safe, today's burglars have done the math. They know that if they trigger your alarm, they'll still have time to grab what they want and go. Simply safe is different. When an intruder sets foot on your property, AI powered cameras detect them. Then a live US-based agent takes action to deter them before a window-ever breaks. This is great for me because I travel all the time. I'm in Los Angeles, it's full of crime. 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Obviously on an unrelated story, and I was, the fellas had gone out, you know, for drinks than I before. And I, for whatever reason, said, "Nah, you guys go ahead." And I got a good night's sleep, got up, went for runs, sitting there watching the Today Show, and smokes coming from one of the towers. I call up, I said, "Hey, you know, what's up?" I said, "Well, we think a private jet got twisted around and somebody had a heart attack and just keep doing what you're doing." Great. And then I see the second tower hit. I said, "I'm on my way." And so we go to the airport. And of course, they're shutting down airspace. And I said to the producer, I said, "Go to Hertz and just get whatever car you can get and get it now." So we started driving. - Yeah. - We get to the border. - How long does that drive? - Two, from Toronto to the border, I think was three hours to the peace bridge, three or four hours of the peace bridge. And then at that point, we almost didn't get over. I had to call in a favor to get them to let us across the border. And then it was, "Do you want us in Boston or New York?" It said, "Go to Boston. We've got nobody in Boston." Some of the planes came from there and get there. And so that's where we went. We covered it two days and two nights from Boston live and then went to New York and covered it either in New York or Washington for the duration. - Because of the 25th year anniversary, I've been getting lots of stuff in the feed. And God just listening to those recordings of the people from the plane who know they're never coming back kind of thing. - And voice mails from the people in the towers. - Yes. - You know, I think I'm gonna be okay. We're waiting to see what's going on. And then you hear the next one and the next one and the next one. I went over to Canterf its Gerald. I represented a law enforcement charity that I worked with. And they had a big thing at Canterf its Gerald's office. It did, you know, fundraising thing. And boy, it really brought it all back. - Yeah, it was listening to those recordings. You know, it's so striking. Men and women calling from the airplane when they, once they realized what was going on, you know, their sort of fate was sealed. And, you know, the theme was, who is, don't worry about me. Have a good time, live your life. You know, like, it was, it was also magnanimous. You know what I mean? Like, nobody started screaming why or anything. They just, they did. - Everybody did what they're supposed to do. And, you know, that was our Pearl Harbor. - Yes. - That was our generation's Pearl Harbor. And whether you were a journalist or whether you were a finance guy or an entertainer, it, everybody pulled together in a way I've never seen in the time I've been alive on this planet. And I remember it being so quiet in New York, you know, and it was that way on the 11th, on Friday, walking out of Canterf its year old and, you know, going to, I walked by St. Patrick's Cathedral and, you know, took in some of that and, you know, went on about my day afterwards. But it was quiet, you know, just respectful. - Yeah. - And it was, it was taking people back to, I think in some ways, just more civilized, more patriotic time when everybody got together. And whether you liked, you know, George Bush or not, he went to the, the, the, the site. - Yeah. - He stood with the firefighter. And I was at the Yankees game when he throughout that first page. - Oh, really? - And, you know, I don't know how I, you know, we're working around the clock. - Right. - But I, you know, sneaked out with a couple of buddies. One of whom was an FBI agent working on the whole thing too. And we just took in the game. And I remember, you know, the chopper landing and him being hustled in and throwing the pitch and just, the patriotism and the loyalty to our country. - Yeah. - And, and we'll never let this happen again. It was overwhelming. - Yeah. - You know, and it was just, it was striking. And if you ever watched the documentary, they did using all the behind the scenes footage of the president and his team that day. - And where he was at the school in front of the kids. - And then they follow him in the Air Force One. They go emergency landing and then wherever he was in South Dakota, whatever it is. And they, they follow the whole day. But was striking to me. I remember being live from Boston that first night. And I had heard from five or six very good sources that we had shot down that plane in Pennsylvania. - Uh-huh, right, right. - And, you know, I'm rastling with whether to report this or not. And I ended up not, because it ended up not being true. - Right, the Let's Role Plan. - Yeah, exactly. But come to find out, watching this documentary, there was a period of time that day that the president himself thought we had shot down that plane. - Oh, wow. That's crazy. - You know, so I felt, I mean, I didn't report it. So it didn't matter. But I felt dishonorated for at least considering reporting when the president of the United States thought that they had. - Yeah, it's such an interesting time. - It's 25 years. I mean, God, how is that, you know? - Yes, I know. And then it also makes you realize, as I was talking to Dr. Drew this morning, I just go, I can't believe you know what I'm talking about. It was a simpler time back then, you know, people came together. Now we're just fights about everything all the time. And it all feels, what I said to Dr. Drew is, it all feels just like a waste. Like, you know, we have all this technology, we have all this time, we have all this comfort, we have all these options. Why are we wasting so much time just arguing about everything all the time? Like just get on with it, get a hobby, get something to do, start a project, it's an endless amount of energy that people have to argue about, nothing. When it's like, okay, Trump wants to build a ballroom. Okay, who cares? Or not. I mean, like how deeply invested do we need, how deeply invested do I need to get in the trial of the mom who killed her kids? You know, like, why do I need to be so invested in things I've nothing to do with? Well, because they limited amount of time on the planet. We've been barred by information at all levels now. And so everybody gets to have an opinion. You know, I have this conversation with my wife, who sometimes reads the comments. I said, it's important for me as a journalist, a content creator, all the things I do to have a connection with my audience, you know, as organic as I can manage it. But. Some of these people aren't our audience, some people are just snipers who like to save things, or do things, and you can't read it. You gotta be a stoic about it. You just gotta say, look, I know what I do every day. I know I take care of all my people. I know that I serve a purpose, and I'm gonna focus on that, and I don't care what a critic says on us. - You know, I'm sort of mixed about it, because I believe that you can read comments that I do, and you can kind of go, if there's a theme that starts to thing, then you can kind of go, okay, I noted, I get it, maybe a little too much of that, not enough of this, or something. - But that's what I'm saying, we need as people who create content to continue to have some organic connection with our audience, our people to serve. And which is why I'm so gracious and public, and we'll try to be, because it's gonna be. - Yeah, and I am. I mean, I go out of my way to say hello to people, and because people wanna tell you what they think. And oftentimes, because of the stories that I do, and the takedown series, and the Predator series, people come up to me and say, hey, thank you. This happened to me when I was a child, and every time you get one of these guys, or do one of these investigations, it gives me a sense of justice, and gives me a feeling of control in my life, and said as fans that you've done this. That is a very, oftentimes painful thing for somebody to admit, and I don't take that lightly. I mean, it's part of the reason why I do this job, that part of my job. So it's important to listen to people, but I'm more talking about, you know, some A-hole who is trolling you on acts. - No, I can't, I'm just not gonna worry about it. - No, you shouldn't. And also-- - My wife will start a fight with these people, and I said, look, I've got a lot going on now. - You're getting back to a theory. - I got to start fighting. - My theory is women are much more involved, and there's a lot more than-- - They're talking about their men. - No, they're just, but they're scrapping. Like the women outside of the courthouse, or whatever with their pink jerseys on, it's like, it's just a lot of weaponized women out there, and they're duking it out, man. It's kind of interesting, and they're physically fighting a lot too, according to the internet, as well. - I've seen this. - I've seen a lot of that. - Now, you and I are for a certain age. There was no such thing as women physically fighting when we were growing up. I mean, it was this insanely, Haley's comet rare, right? Now it's gotten to sort of almost routine, and maybe surpassed men fighting. I feel like when I turn on the internet, I actually have more women fighting than men fighting these days. I cannot say statistically that's true, but just from my observations. - Well, it's 24/7. I mean, it never stops. So if you're looking to pick a fight, - Yes. - You can find it. - Yes. - And there'll always be someone to take the other side on any platform. - Yes. - Even on Facebook, you've got families fighting about nonsense, and the rivalries and things, and picking at each other. - I just put the pictures of the grandkids up, and the birthday pictures, and let it ride for a minute. You don't have to pick a fight with everybody. - I think my theory is the sedentary lifestyle with the air conditioning and the grub hub and everything. People need to go out, they need to till some soil, they need to get tired, and then you come back, and you're 15,000 steps in. - Someone needs to come home tired. You have to come home and go, I'm tired. - You're the house in Michigan or the apartment in New York, I'm ready to unwind. - Yes. - I'm ready to escape and have quiet time. I don't jump on a social media platform to stir up nonsense. - Yes. - I've done that all day. I've stirred up trouble. It's my job, just stirring it up. - Yes. - And so when I get there, I would like to drive my car, which I can't do in New York. I don't have cars here. I like to put fish, meat, or poultry, on an open fire in the backyard in the middle. Create some sort of sustenance for my family. - Or do whatever. - Yeah. - I don't do wood carving. I'll hit a ball with a stick, and I have fun with that. Or ski down a mountain, I have fun with that, but you just gotta separate yourself. - What is a hobby you might have? I mean, skiing is a hobby, but jobs you can't do every weekend or whatever. - I like to read, I'm a weird reader. I have three or four books going at all times, and I'll switch back to it. I want to read Bob Spitz's book about the Rolling Stones. I'll get into that if I want to read the theater, Roosevelt trilogy, I'll get back into that, or something that's disturbing, or something that I'm working on. We decided to deal with Simon and Schuster for a Christmas thriller series. So we're working on that, and I find that kind of fun, because you're telling stories, it's a fictional series, but it's based on real life experience. So I find myself mining stuff that happened to me from my drywall hauling days, or Mr. Pee Street days, or something in college, and it all gets woven in, and I've got an incredibly gifted co-writer, and partnered a lot of my productions, Joe Garner, who keeps this thing on track. But that to me, even though it's work-related, it's a creative endeavor that is different than having a sting or going out and shooting a documentary, or anything like that. - Is it sort of not the same, but in the vein of, like, Bill O'Reilly does a series, successful series of books. He picks a subject, has his names on it. It's sort of his style. - There's a guy, and it's not the name is Chris Hans, and the irony is that my own thriller series doesn't use my name, except for the author title, but the fake movie has taken my name for fun and profit. - Yes. Is there anything you can do, by the way, when they do that? - I've got it legally. - Four years looking at it. I mean, some of the brightest guys in the field. And, you know, it's just, it's a question of ethics. And it's a question of business practices. And, I mean, maybe you extrapolate that into, if I identity theft, I mean, if I take Adam Crowley, I'd tell your name, and I take it without your permission, and I use it to make money, is that not identity theft? - Yeah, well, that's the basic question here. - Yeah, okay, you can't take a cut out picture of George Clooney and put your watch on the cardboard wrist and put it in front of your watch shop, because it's Clooney, and he needs to be compensated. - For that advertisement. - For that, whenever I talk to Mark Garagos about any of this stuff, it's always, can you prove damages? And if you can prove, now, if they had you as a junkie in this movie portrayal, then you could prove damages. - I imagine. - Well, even because you, and because I am a public figure, the bar for defamation is very hot. - Yeah. - Now, you could do it, listen, I can throw a switch and make it happen on a number of different levels tomorrow, but then does it become, this is the movie, Chris Hansen doesn't want you to see. - Uh-huh. - You know, I'm not gonna get a restraining order. - Right. - Or a seasoned assist. I mean, they're gonna do what they're gonna do. They were sneaking and disingenuous about it at the best level, right? I mean, who does a movie about a live guy who's still doing it? - Right. - But doing is, you know, by the way, being the real Chris Hansen takes up most of my day, so I don't have a lot of time to go deal with the fake Chris Hansen in the movie. - You know, I made a documentary called The 24 Hour War, which is Ford V Ferrari before that movie came out. And they clearly watched it to use it as a, you know, a yardstick, a measuring point or whatever to start creating their thing. They'd be dumb not to watch it. It's a two-hour dock on the subject we're trying to make a movie about. And like, we knew they watching things like that, but they'll never contact you and go like, hey, can we watch it, tell us what you know or tell us about the experience or whatever that was? - It won't take much to have a-- - It won't take much to have an ambassador of good faith out there. - Yes, it'd be pretty easy. They never do. And I don't know if it's a legal thing or I don't know what it is, but they-- - I think it's a Hollywood arrogance thing, quite honestly. I mean, I think they don't do things that they don't want to do. They obviously had a very dark vision for this dramatized version of the story. - Right. - They had used a hit piece article that was in Esquire that focused on the-- - A hit piece on you. - A hit piece on the show and by extension me. And it was about the assistant district attorney who killed himself in Texas. He was caught chatting with two decoys, posing as 13 year old boys. He broke the law by doing that according to the police. The police went out to arrest him because they were worried about evidence disappearing on his end. And I didn't make that decision. The police made the decision. So as they were arresting him, he committed suicide. - Right. - Big story. - Which we reported fully the next morning on the today show. - Right. - Right. - The thing about the Predator series is that we have been painstakingly transparent about it from the very beginning at NBC through today at True Blue with Take Down. you know, people ask sometimes, what's the weirdest thing that ended up on the editing room floor? Nothing. - Right. - Now we, you know, depending on where this goes, if I do a version for Jesse Watershow, obviously we can't use the same word sometimes that we use on a streaming service, True Blue. - Right. - It's just a different, different, you know, broadcast format. So we tone it down a little bit, but I mean, you see everything that happens. - Right. - And so what they want to do is create this, and this is why I hate watching movies about reporters and TV reporters because they make everybody look horrible, and they don't understand, you know, the nuance of it typically. - Yeah, I mean, they probably, they over dramatically size everything, like everyone raises their voice, and it's supposed to be so intense, and there's like everyone's an asshole, and everyone's screaming at their assistant. You screwed my coffee up and go fix it. - Yeah. - And in this case, they use real names. So they use the real name of my producer from "To Catch Your Petter." - Oh, really? - Because they have heard doing stuff that she wouldn't even think of doing. - Really? - And she calls me and she's-- - You just notice via the trailer. - I know this via the trailer, and obviously other people have seen that film. I can't see it. They let a director of the documentary "Predators" see it, and I asked them at the A24 potential screening that didn't happen about that. I said, "You let David Osset see it." - Well, that was a different sort of screening. He was with the director in an editing room, and this is an official A24 screening. I said, "Well, give me that screening." - All right. - He didn't have to sign an interview. - So your director or producer on predator, catch predator female, they use their name. - They use her name. - Her whole name. - Her whole name. - And then, you know what upset her? Besides being portrayed as a horrible person in a horrible producer, which was a nov, she was upset because it shows me yelling at her and the team, which has never happened in the history of my career. - Right. - I don't yell at people. - Yeah. - I don't get upset. I protect my people. - Yeah. - And I would not ask any of my people to do anything that I wouldn't do from the lead. - Right. - Yeah, we worked till six o'clock in the morning on these investigations, but guess what? I'm right there. I don't go to the hotel and take a nap and say, hey, call me if something happens, we're all together at this. - Wow, they use the same names. - Yeah. - That's interesting. - Yeah, all the way through. And so why do they do that? They do it, at least in my case, because it has commercial value. It's a brand that I've spent 45 years building. So now they're going to exploit that. It's almost like they're exhibiting predatory behavior doing a movie about a guy who came up with a series to catch bad guys who are praying on children. So now they're praying on me to exploit my work. And that's why I've said it's an insult to the thousands of people who go out and do this work every day. They've reduced something that has had tremendously positive impact to, you know, some lousy reporters arguing about TV ratings. - So you feel like you've got a pretty good picture of what the picture is going, yeah. You've talked enough people have seen it. - Yeah, and I'm going to go watch it in New York. - Oh, when it comes out. - And I'm going to take a crew with me. - All right. - And I'm going to do man on the street interviews afterwards. We're going to go to big theater, right in Times Square. I'm in the 24th, and then I'm going to take it all and put it together for a special episode of "Have a See with Chris Hanson," my podcast on the YouTube channel, the same name. - Well, look, my soul lean into it and get something out of it. - Yeah, I'm not hiding from it. - Right. - I mean, I know what the truth is. - Yeah. - And I think everybody who's watched the show knows what the truth is. So I'm not going to tell people not to go see the movie. You want to go see the movie, go see the movie. But realize it's a dark dramatization. And there is nothing at least in the trailer that happened in real life except saying, I'm Chris Hanson, I'm going to need you to have a seat right over there. - Do you feel like you have built up enough calluses to be okay with people walking around with the wrong idea about you in an unflattering way in their head? It is kind of the business you're in. Now, your producer is not in that business. - Well, she's not a public figure. - That's what I'm saying. - She should have to deal with this. She's a hard-working person who continues to work if we're in business. - But not even whether you should or shouldn't. It's just you are not going to be as affected by it because of your background experience. - I've been doing this for 45 years. It's like somebody criticizing you for hanging out with Jimmy Kimmel. You don't care about that criticism, do you? - No, it's kind of weird. It's kind of weird how much of that I would I get. And it doesn't bother me at all. - You should bother because you're confident, you're thick-skinned, you know what you do every day, you know the content you produce every day, you know what kind of a guy Jimmy Kimmel is when politics are taken out of it. You know the guy, you know yourself. I'm the same way. I just, you know, again, I'd be stupid if I didn't use it to the best of my ability for my current projects. - Yeah. - We've got a documentary and it's, we, you know, I participated in it, but there's a documentary that was in production before anybody knew about this film called "I'm Chris Hanson" and it digs deep into my background and my, you know, process and my career and my family. And so that, they're doing this final sound mix today and that'll come out. I'm not sure where it's gonna air first but several meetings will take place. - Can you have seen that? - I haven't seen the final final. - But you know what that is. - I participated in it. - Yeah. - Yeah, I participated in it. That's interesting. Wow, everything's coming up Chris Hanson. - It is, it's a busy life right now. - It is, you know, the one good thing. - But I feel blessed. - Well, as much as I don't like what they did and I think maybe we should take a look at Lance Oppenheim's chat logs and see what's in there. But, but, you know, would you prefer a flattering portrayal on a major motion picture of course you would? But that's not what happened. So how do you make it a positive thing for all the other positive things you do? And you flip it. - Right. - And you just tell the truth about it. That's all you have to do is tell the truth. - Right. - And I'm blessed I can come on this show. I can go on a lot of different places and I can say, you know, this is the deal. But I knew, because I was, it was gonna be on Jesse's show with some predator clips. The day that the screening was supposed to take place. - Uh-huh, Jesse Waters. - Jesse Waters on Fox. And it was a good dude. And I know you go on that show too. And so at the end of talking about sex torsion the latest predator thing we had been in San Francisco which was interesting. It's the first time we had done a sting there. And so at the end he asks because what's up with the movie. I said, well, as it turns out, I was at E24 today and I told the whole story about the screening and I'm walking out of there without having seen the film. And so go back to the apartment, have my dinner, go to bed, midnight, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. You have a variety, everybody picked up on our conversation on Jesse's show. And it was off to the races after that. But, you know, I've stayed two or three steps ahead of the studio and just about everything here. - Well, like I said, everything's coming up. Chris Hanson. And it's also kind of weird too. I've had this experience. You just don't know what's around the next corner. - You don't. - And if you hide from it, you know, then you're not gonna get to experience the good of it. - No, listen, I was literally just thinking earlier today. I go, you know, a week and a half ago, I got some vague, like, hey, you wanna come out to the RNC and do something? And I was like, yeah, I don't know what a great thing that you're not to be for everybody involved. You included. - I ended up having a great time. And then I said, I was up on stage with Jimmy two days later. I was like, not predictable. None of it's predictable. - No, but I had my buddy saying, hey, your buddy, Krolo was at the, you know, and turned it in and watched it. You know, it was great. It was great stuff. - It is a benefit to this business versus working at the Postal Sorting Center in Arlita going on your 57th year. - Yeah. - You know what's waiting at that. This is, you don't know. - Every day is a, you know, different - The spell is waiting on this. - No, it is. - But I agree. You shouldn't be looking for good times. You should be looking for experiences. - Experiences exactly. And experiences will provide fulfillment and good times. And again, I go back to the stoicism thing, right? And a lot of people have figured this, and I think I've talked about this before. There's a book called The Book of Charlie, right? And it's about 109-year-old guy who's a doctor in Kansas City, talks about all his experiences. But the author gets into stoicism and Marcus really is all that. And that set me off the path on that. And just, you know, you can't worry about things. You can't control. - Yes. - You can't. And this is the one thing I always think of every day. And I tell my wife this. He who suffers before it is necessary suffers more than is necessary. Don't get yourself all worked up about it. - I agree. But also, this is my little stoicism thing. If it scares you, you should probably do it. Like if you think yourself, I don't know. That sounds a little scary or a little hairy. You should probably say yes. - 20 years ago. - Right. I had a choice. I could say, Okay, we did four or five episodes of "To Ketra Predator." That's enough. I'm gonna go back to doing more traditional journalism, which I kept doing along with it the whole time. Ten Emmys, none of them for the Predator Investigators. - Interesting. - So, you have a choice. You either step away from it and say, well, that's just something I did if you want to continue to let somebody else do it, or you embrace it for everything it has. Now, when I made the decision to embrace it, I knew that there was gonna be no chance to go to 60 minutes, not that that's the be-all and all, but in my generation, that's something you're-- - That's your SNL and your sketch comedy guy. - I'm just fine at date line at NBC. I was cool there, and I'm especially cool now, but all this stuff happened. And it has led me to having my own streaming network, two podcasts, a massive social media presence, and relationships with people like you and others, where we can have these great conversations, and they go wherever they go. - Well, it's another a perk of this job, and it's a perk of your job to some degree as well, is you see somebody, and then you see 'em six months later, a year later, and they're doing this, they're doing that, they're doing something else, then I've been doing what we're talking about the last time I saw them. - No, it's a different thing. - And it's kind of nice. The documentary, Dangerous Games, Investigating Roblox, is on True Blue, special. Also, it's the podcast and True Blue. Crime, TV network, check all that out. Take down with Chris Hanson on True Blue. As well, always great catching up with you, my friends. - Yeah, it's a pleasure. 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I mean, I'll give you a real good example. I've had plenty of bad roommates. And the roommate, you know, you kinda go, well I was here first and I put the cleaning deposit down and then they moved in and if anyone's gonna move out, but they don't and they're bad. And when I tell everyone, it's just get out. It's a shit roommate, they're not gonna change. - There's lots of red flags. - It's like stuff where you go, it's not fair, man. They've made lasagna and they've stupid, all the dishes and the sink and then they didn't even clean it up. - I know, they're never gonna do it. I know, it's not fair, they're bad. - And then it sets into the rubber man and then it's ruined. - Everything's bad, they're bad, they ain't changing to sleeve. - It's so funny 'cause I feel like men are more quick to leave a situation than women. Women are like, I can change him 'cause we're stupid sometimes. - I think women probably think they can change. The rally is no one really changes, everybody. - We're also more empathetic. - It's just a package, they have good stuff, they have bad stuff and you know, you kind of try to find the ones that have the more good stuff and the less bad stuff, but they're just kind of a package. It's the great Dennis Prager would say. And it's kind of who they are. And you just have to hang on to the ones that have a higher percentage of good stuff and a low percentage of bad stuff, but it's never gonna be no percentage of bad stuff because the bad stuff's being defined by you. - Yeah. - It might not be bad stuff. - And what you think is now in 20 years, you might find really fricking annoying. - Well, I just mean like some people's, you know, like I don't like slow, careful drivers. I don't like that. I would look at that as bad stuff, but they don't look at it as bad stuff. They look at it as safety, you know what I mean? So it's kind of in the eye. Some of the bad stuff's like in the eye of the beholder. - That's true. - No, what I mean? - Yeah. - That's true. - So that would be-- - Not rinsing coffee mugs is universally bad though. - Oh, and then as a woman, if you're wearing lipstick or lip balm, you need to also bring the part where your lip was. - Get the kiss and potion off. - You gotta get it off. So then when it goes through the dishwasher, it actually comes off. - At worst when you go to a restaurant, your wine glass shows up with the fucking kiss and potion on. - I'm just at a restaurant the other day. And actually with some friends, Kelly Rizzo, friend of the pod, and my one girlfriend who likes sports ball, Heather Cooney, and all of our husbands and partners. And there were two drinks in a row that came out and I spotted a chipped glass. - A chipped? - But we got some free drinks out of it. - Oh, you did? - Yeah, I mean, I like it when there's good customer service. - All right, so you got some news. - Some news for us. - Continuing the depressing era of stupidity amongst my own sex. The defense of Lindsey Clancy being a murderer of three innocent children continues. - Yes. - Did you see her on CBS mornings? She was taught this juror. So now they're on it. This lady's gonna get a lifetime movie made about her. She's gonna make like more than six figures. No, no, no, these jurors that are taking out. - The jurors are getting movies. - Well, they're totally gonna get made. Like, they're gonna get book deals. They're gonna be doing all this stuff where they're allegedly shilling for women in mental health. But anyway. - I thought they only did know about the actual person who committed the crime. - Lifetime will do an approved version of the-- - So she's talking to Gayle King. - So Paula Devlin is one of the Lindsey Clancy jurors. She's the one that's been going around on all this media 'cause she loves the red light, apparently. And she revealed to Gayle King that the lone male hold out juror was, wait for it. A black man. - All right, I love her reaction. - This video is priceless. - I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men. What was the age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it? - 70ish to 22. And one person of color and then everybody else was white. A lot of the jurors had children. - Uh-huh. - One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man. - A man. - A man. Is a hold out juror a person, a black man? - Yes. - A black man is a hold out juror? - Yes. - Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. - Why do you have to sit with us, you racist piece of shit? I mean, you have to, like, a white guy. Oh, so hold on. Kid rock did something, I gotta sit with that for a second 'cause I'm white, 'cause I'm white. And he's white. See how that works, doesn't it? - How racist is this? - You do something, I gotta sit with it for a minute. Like, I don't know if Ted Kaczynski did something or Joey Budafuco did something, I'd have to sit with it for a minute 'cause I'm, you understand that, I'm white. - I did it for the community. - I'm a white, yeah, white, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, man, Jeffrey Dahmer. He was black, wasn't he? Oh, white? Gotta sit with that. I gotta sit. Now I gotta sit for a second. - How racist is it for her to assume, too, that the person of color was gonna be okay with the child murderer? - I didn't even know what her point was. The one guy who's the hero of this tale. - Because she assumed it would be like a white Karen who that juror actually is. She's like the definition of Karen and Dictionary. Is that lady right there? But I think because she assumed it would be a white Karen or an old white dude. - Right. But here's what I'm saying, Gail King. You're supposed to be a reporter, not an advocate for the black race. You're supposed to report things. So when you let things out, like I gotta sit with that for a minute, then when Obama runs for president and you're doing a bunch of fluff pieces on Obama, it makes me wonder if you're just an advocate or you're not an actual journalist, but you know, by the way, black people, you have to stop cheering out loud for like other black people or attacking other black people, disagree with stuff. You're not supposed to let race factor in. Meaning you're watching a. Here's what I'm not allowed to do, you ready? I'm not allowed to walk into some guy's living room and see a black guy fighting a white guy. And then someone goes, you know these two fighters, I go, I don't know, where are they from? No where near my town. And then the white guy punches the black guy and I go, yeah, yeah, get it. Or you rush to his defense. Right, right, it makes me look like this is race based, which we're not supposed to want to see. Yes. Even if we're thinking it in our hearts, not supposed to advertise it. Speak for yourself. I want to hear her again. I want to hear her. I heard the sitting with it. I want her to. Well, at just the way she. She's like, oh, that's it. She's a. She's surprised because she is human and she's not an unbiased journalist and she has her own biases that we're clearly thinking this is an old white Karen or an old white. Right, but it kind of reminds me of when Jessie Smollett did his race hoax thing. Smollie. And everyone was his best friend all of a sudden. Like I, this guy's on a shitty one hour fox drama. How do you all know this guy? He's a good friend, he's a dear friend, you know? No, he's black and you're black. It's so dear that he was writing a blank check to some dudes to pretend to beat him up. Yes, all right, one more time, here we go. Was white. Uh-huh. And. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man. A man. A man. A man. Is a holdout juror a person, a black man? Yes. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. Yeah. All right. Alicia Kraus always hates me. But that's why we need more women of color and positions of power. This is check on check crime here, baby. You asked for it. This is your career. This is. This is. Do you want to go through. How all the things that men have done poorly over the years? So this is where we're heading. So this is where we're going now. It's now that women have defaulted to being. You know what? I do partially blame the media and social media for this. Though part of me, my conspiratorial side, come to the Kraus conspiracy corner for a moment. It's KCC, not triple K. But I think that this is a CCP siop to create unrest and distrust in the American female before the election. I don't. And so seeds of doubt amongst our fellow Americans. I'm hammering checks. So people are so displeased and there's like feeds into conspiracy and all this stuff. If you know the whole. There's that. Taloriko clip on the breakfast club, Andrew that we didn't talk about, but. It's like a black kid with a history of aggression and weapons and things like that stabs a white kid in the heart and kills him. And then Taloriko is like, "No black people on that jury. I'm sorry." I don't buy. It's like. You don't need black people on the jury. You don't need women. You just need folk who can hear a story. Yeah, like a kid's definition of peer, isn't it supposed to be a jury of your peers? And so his peers, like your socioeconomic status to Taloriko, is it your skin color? Like what is it? I'm saying everything from them is seen through the lens of race. That's all I'm saying. You could take 100 white people or 100 black people or 100 Eskimos and when they hear the evidence that a guy pulled a knife out and stabbed another guy in the heart with it and killed them, then they will come back with murder. It's you working race into it. By the way, so what's your suggestion? Your suggestion is if there were some black people on that jury, then he'd be walking free right now because they're racist. Like, it's all so insulting. Well, based on the OJ trial. Here's Taloriko. Well, that is true. Well, Texas, we see what happened with Carmelo Anthony and you said it was a tragedy. Yeah. What did you mean by that? We've done a lot of work in the State House on Justice Reform and right now, we've got a system that doesn't serve all Americans equally and we know that black Texans have not gotten the justice they deserve in many cases and I'm not an expert on this particular case but I know that there were no black members of the jury and to me, that's the only evidence you need to really prove that this system is not working for black Texans. All right. So all the white people were racist when they sentenced this kid who, just to remind everybody of the story, this was the high school football game, right? That's the situation that you're talking about. This is a Carmelo Anthony that is in no way related to the famous Carmelo Anthony for the record. Just add that in. And for a while, we were saying he allegedly did this thing even though there are dozens of eyewitnesses and I think it was on cell phone video and it was horrific. I mean, a high school kid stabbing a high school kid in a scuffle over football. It was sorry. It was at a track meet on, but it was on a football field, that's what kind of and so and this was recent. I mean, they really hustled this case along. Good for them because sometimes justice doesn't, you know, takes forever to prevail. So he's assuming that all of the white jurors just convicted this kid because he's black and had a black juror been on the jury. He would have gotten not guilty or he would have been. He's not assuming anything. First off, he's just at the breakfast club. So he's there to chug some black cop. Doesn't he look so comfortable? That's what he's doing there. Yes. He has the cow tower to black people. I would love, I could watch a thousand hours of just dumb white people pretending to like black people when they're at the church or at the morning show or wherever the fuck they are. So he's just doing that. He's a fucking asshole and a race hustler. And these guys, she everything through race, that's the whole thing. He's also blasphemous. We could toss that. Oh, he's horrible. So wrong when it comes to the Bible. So this, Paula Devlin has been on her media tour, probably trying to drop a book deal. Uh huh. And she was on another show. I think it was also CBS. And she talks about like, oh, you know, I was really hoping that this would help women. Like our decision out there would help women. Oh, okay. Let's hear that. We knew that this was a turning point and this would be something that could change something to make it better for other women in the future, for other families. You know, justice for those children is this never happening again. Yeah. And Devlin talked to me about the mm hmm. Yeah. And you got, she's got this in sear face happening. Yes. She's talking about it. Sear listening face. Like I can totally relate to you. But I think that this is such a bad part of society. And I blame partly COVID, which I hate to go back to because it was five years or six years ago and I wanted to be done with. But like, people that doubt truth because we were lied to, like those in authority for so long. Yes. And I, I mean, I've talked about this numerous times on TV and YouTube and all the stuff. So people know my two cents on it. But it's like, it is bad when you can honestly say, hey, why are billions of dollars spent on men's health and why aren't women tested when it comes in the same ways that men are invested in and why until 60 years ago, where men and women treated the exact same in the medical community. Yada, you can bring up all those questions without making a child murderer your mascot. Yes. But the problem is is that they're not thinking like this and they are thinking, you know, woman must be innocent no matter what and turns out there's some pretty evil women out there. Have you seen Kim Jong-un's sister? She allegedly sends dogs after her like political opponents to lead them alive. Wow. But Oprah's doing this stick now and this was interesting. She had this live event with this roundtable and she cannot fathom how this woman who looks to be a minority, by the way, doesn't agree with her about Lindsey Clancy. All right. That's what I know. Differing about the case. We are. Yeah. Yeah, we have opposing views. We do. And I think, you know, I say to her, I think so she hasn't gone through it. She's not a mother. So she doesn't know how it feels to have a child. And you disagree? I don't. I disagree. I feel like I'm not with the majority right now. I do believe she's a murderer. Um, I'm in all you've heard today. You should. I'm an advocate for mental health. Yeah. It's just unfortunate. Like, and she's so quick to say it's she's like, you've never had a baby. You don't understand what it's like to go through all the hormonal shifts. Hold on a second. I, I thought she was going to make the argument you haven't had a baby. You don't understand. You would give your life for that child. Yeah. Like, I thought that was her argument. [BLANK_AUDIO] out of them three times in a row. - It's weird to go here. So most of the time they go and tell your parent you'll never understand the love and the feeling you have at the most of their protection stuff. She's making the opposite parent, aren't you? - It's mind-boggling to me. And it turns out pregnancy is not an illness and motherhood doesn't make you mentally incapable of making decisions and it's stupid and it's going backwards for women when we say that. And also, I was told for years and years and years, specifically by the left-leaning feminists, when they got pissed at, you know, JD Vance and stuff, we're talking about unmarried cat ladies, like kind of like going after childless women, that whether or not you have a child or not doesn't belittle your level of equality in our culture. Like your ability to produce offspring doesn't mean that you are greater than other women who do not or cannot or choose not to. But in this case, that is like their number one comeback every single time. It's like, well, if you haven't had a baby then you don't understand. - Right. It's bullshit. - All right, let's hear a little more of the dance cap, correct? - I feel like I'm not with the majority right now. I'm in all you've heard today, you should. - I'm an advocate for mental health. It's just unfortunate, like, and she's so quick to say it's she's like, you've never had a baby, you don't understand what it's like to go through all the hormonal shifts. But I just feel as though these weren't a lot instant deaths. They weren't gunshots to the head. She was there strangling her kids three times. You're telling me, like, even after the first time she couldn't snap out of it. You're watching the life leave your kids eyes, you know? So I know I hear everybody's opinions and God bless. - What's Bill Burr doing there in the middle of this fucking Yantus? There's one bald white dude. One, there's one, like, bald ginger dude. Who is this hand-packed pee whipped bald piece of shit? How do you get there? Like, I'd like to show, hey, dude, you gotta go work. I don't know what's going on here. There's one of you. - What are you doing here? - And then there's only one acceptable answer. You don't know what it is? - What? - I'm trying to get laid. So I'm pretending to care about shit. - It's like the men that go to like the women's marches against Donald Trump. - Yeah, like, half the dudes that were showing up on, like, Occupy Wall Street, were just trying to get laid. Apparently that was happening in those camps too. - Oh yeah. - Some consensuals and not. - Oh yeah. - I'm sure. - Yeah. - All right, sorry. We'll hear the rest of it for one more chance. That's one dude. - So, I know I hear everybody's opinions and God bless mothers, but at the same-- - God bless mothers. - I just don't understand how we can empathize with somebody that they weren't strangers. They were her kids. And she was able to grab those exercise bands that took a lot of effort. And it breaks my heart that these young kids gone through that, but-- - Oh, my positive. This is Oprah. I've never seen anything worth a shit. I mean, there's no, I don't think there's a male version of Oprah. You have to, there's-- - James Tellerinko. - Yeah, you may be right. 'Cause there's, I mean, you know, Ben Shapiro has an audience that then Ben Shapiro says shit. - Yeah. - Oprah doesn't ever say-- - Stephen A. Smith says stuff. - Right, Oprah doesn't say anything. DJ Khaled, that could be-- - Oh, no. - He sings good stuff. - Yeah, he's a good singer. He's the best. I know we the best, and we're all the best. All right, more Oprah. Who says no? - It breaks my heart that these young kids gone through that, but it's, I'm grateful that this conversation is happening because I do believe, like, women, they are-- - But there's Bill Burr again. - It comes to mental health. If this was-- - I told you it was a ginger. - Like, there would be like a law that has to do with-- - 'Cause he has no eyebrows. Some things going on, but-- - Go back there to this. - Bill Burr is sending amongst these Oprah fans. There he is. - Right there. - There he is. - Here's no eyebrows. Oh no, now we're making fun of a stranger, but-- - I'm gonna, I'm gonna like point for my Bill Burr. All right, go ahead, sorry. You believe, like, women, they are on the back burner when it comes to mental health. If this was a man, like, there would be, like, a law the next day or something going on, but-- - There would have been research. It would have been fun, didn't it? - Something right away. - Or something, but it's just, I just feel like, with her it's becoming, she's becoming a mascot for just, I feel like so many mothers empathize with her so much that they want to put her out there, make her a mascot. And they're turning something so negative into a movement. - Okay, I hear that. So y'all will continue, you all will not be agreeing no time for it. - All right, thank you, Oprah. Thank you for those insights. You guys, y'all not gonna be getting along with the stuff. - I'd like to make a-- - Soon, right? - Nikki Hayden-- - Give me a million dollars, somebody. - Margaret Thatcher and Amy Coney Barrett and, you know, working professional successful moms who didn't murder their children and mascots for the women's movement, that'd be nice. - Did you see that? - I agree with you. Hold on, Andrew's got a theory. - Oh yes. - He's a cynic, but I kind of agree. The one Bill Bird dude who was stuffed in the middle of all the women of color was to fill it out. - Yeah, he's a crowd guy. - It was like crowd, that was a high ranking production assistant or he set PA and they're like, ah, it's a little, it's a little spotty here. - To fill it up. - Yeah. - He's a seat filler. - When we go to the shot, we need somebody there. - That's interesting, Andrew. You're cynical, but I like where your head's at. That Bill Bird dude, sitting amongst all the women is a seat filler who probably is involved with craft services or something or maybe he's the boom mic guy or something. Maybe he loved everyone up and then they went, now go sit there. - That's my like least favorite part of being on TV is the miking up part. - It's always a little homoerotic when the guys reaching down your shirt and reaching up your shirt. They always give you the, the guy gives you the options. Like you can, I always do it. - You can drop, I like him to do it. - Sure you do. - I'm like, warm up those hands, bro. Rub them together. I brought you a muff. Put them in, warm them up, then drop it. And by the way, no, I'm not wearing a t-shirt. You're welcome. - But you always wear pants. My problem is like you wear it off and wear like a dress or jumpsuit or something on TV and then you have to like carry the little set to the chair and it's like three times biggest this and I'm always paranoid, I'm gonna drop it. - The three times biggest your phone? - Yeah, there's like, there's like the mic and the pack and the thing that you're on TV. - Oh, oh, what I, all right. What I don't like is they, when they put the earpiece in. - We always tickles. - Well, there's, it doesn't feel good, but they don't push it in. They just sort of put it there. But they always put the little alligator clamp too far on the collar and when you turn your head, it pulls, it's like, why not just put it closer to where your ear is, so it doesn't lock. - Or the direction that you're gonna be turning on the set. I do sometimes ask for that. If it's a good person, they'll do that. By the way, some of the best like, miking up experiences I've had have been when it was a female. - Hi. - Oh, that's it, that's it, that's it. That's about a 70, 30 split. - It's a male dominated industry. - It's kind of, but not totally. - Really? I feel like it's nine times out of 10, it's always a dude. - No, I give it a 70, 30 split. I got a nice woman who drives the bus who comes over here and does the fox hits and whatever, she's a nice young lady, gets a son. And then there's a dude, but that's kind of 50, 50. I'm trying to think of, there's females in that crew. I'll give it a 70, 30. - Okay. - All right. 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Quote, "Plan parenthood affiliates are separately incorporated public charities that operate health centers across the U.S. as trusted sources of health care and education for people of all genders and communities across the country." Well, first off, does anyone really need an abortion? Like, I don't know what percentage of people that technically need it versus I'd like to have an abortion? I agree. Not number one, number two, they did the same thing that WNBA did, but they paint themselves in the corners with all their. We don't know what a man is and it's all sort of a gender or something. But for a long time, men were not allowed to have a say and whether or not their woman got an abortion because it was her body, her choice. Right. So, what they do is they start with an insane premise which is men, women, women, men, or anything people and all, they start with their insanity and then they get cornered a little with it and then they have to come out with more insane statements whether it's the WNBA or plan parenthood based on their initial insanity and which is their fault and then they always get pissed off when people call them out on it, but it's you guys who did it in the first place. Well, this is a problem with believing things that actually have no depth to them. When you don't have core political, personal, religious, moral principles, then you do have to shift and move with what your team says and turns out that your team tends to be anti-women, anti-scientific, anti-truth. Yeah. And so then you have to pretend that the thing that you adhered to for years and years and years, the first lie was it's just a blob and not a baby. Right. And then the second lie was that men shouldn't have a say, you know, it's the woman's body, the woman's choice and now it's, well, turns out, men should be able to do the same thing too and also have a say. Yeah. It's just like the goal post is always moving because they had no core principle other than loving to kill babies apparently. Yes. I think in a weird way, it ends up being, I think a lot of this is not a principle thought. I mean, as you said, but what I'm saying is, is a lot of it feels like an adolescent, defiant nature. Like here's what I'm for and here's what I'm against. I am for everything that'll piss you off. That chick killed three of her kids. Yeah. It's horrible, right? She's a hero. Yeah. For everything that'll make you go, are you nuts? What are you for this for? Like this is insane. No, that's in, no. It's like the teenage daughter that wants the reaction. Yes. Like she gets the extra earring in the, in the lobe just because of dad. Yes. It's, it is, there is a defiance disorder like you'll find it with people. My ex-wife is kind of this way. It's like I was sort of like, how's it you disagree with, or you don't do anything I ever ask ever? Like how come none of this ever happens? And you realize it's a disorder. Like I've had friends that are that way, like it's just literally whatever you want, whatever you ask for, you're not getting it. And there's, now you get that with nine-year-old daughter sometimes or teenage daughters, hopefully they grow out of it. You know, my daughter went through a phase. She's really good now, you know, it'd be nice. But you get the feeling with these people. You can set your watch on it. You're like, well, what are they going to do? Well, they're going to, you go, what about this Mangione kid? Who shot the healthcare? Oh, yeah. Big fan. And what about Palestine? Oh, yeah. Big fans of Palestine. And the lady who stabbed the lady in Times Square. Big fan. Yeah. Big fan. And then what about it? And at a certain point, it's like almost like you go, you want to go like, I enjoy eating the watermelon. Hate it. You're like, oh, I just think you're against every single thing that comes out of these people's mouth just makes normal people go, what the fuck? Yeah. And saying, I will like a close more. I want an open board, you know, like, I don't even know if they know what they're doing. They're in kind of the grievance department. They're not really, it's an, it's a disorder is what I'm saying. You're looking through some sort of practical lens. They're just fucking battling on everything. You know what I say, though, and I say this on campuses to Gen Zers all the time. I'm like, actually nowadays though in 2026, the real active defiance in rebellion is to be like a conservative Christian woman. Yes. I agree. Like, if you all really want to be defiant and stick it to the man and the powers that be. Yes. Then come join my team, guys. I agree. Hey, Andrew, we're trying to figure out off the air. We're talking about that John Stewart clip that was sort of making the rounds that people were like trying to figure out what John Stewart was talking about. He was getting, he was talking to, I guess, to a hungarian reporter or something. He was getting kind of snarky or just being sarcastic, but I don't know what his point was. And I talked to Dr. Drew about it and I'm not sure what his point was other than he's, is this a new show? He doesn't like Hungary. I guess no one on the left likes Hungary because Hungary likes Hungary and they like Hungarians living in Hungary and not Islamists. So they just went, we like our goulash and our chicken pop of cash and no, we don't do a lot of goat based eating over here. So we're just going to keep it this way. I happen to like any, any country, especially European country, it goes, no, we're not just going to open our borders to Islam because those countries all fucking regret it. Yeah. Sweden sure does. So we, so we hear on the left, hate Hungary because they have rules and they have pride and they followed it. I don't know, let's listen to what John Stewart says here. I guess he's talking to a Hungarian woman who's a reporter. So you're saying if you have a media machine that purposefully lies to its people to maintain a political fiction and get themselves power, that that is the hallmark of an authoritarian system, not a democratic system. Absolutely. Well, if we were ever to get something like that in the United States, we would be horrified, furious to know that there was an entire media organization designed to bend reality, to manipulate facts, to maintain power, it would, if I may, and I'm not trying to slam Hungary, it would never happen in the United States. It's just not, I almost can't even conjure it, imagine it, it must be very difficult to live in a country where one media organization out of whole cloth knowingly, explicitly, maybe even in meetings behind the scenes might say, we're lying to our audience, holy shit. And then call for news people to be fired for telling the truth. I mean, if something like that happened in the United States, it would be a dark day indeed. So I appreciate you raising the alarm bells for us. Is he tapped? Does he not remember the Biden White House and DOJ colluding with media and saying, you must say this, and this is the narrative that we're going to give on X, Y and Z? It's so much projection, it's insane, and they do this all the time. What about Fox News? What about the seven other thousand other publications that protect Joe Biden and say Hunter Biden's laptop didn't exist? That work with liberal groups to actually be mouthpieces for the Democratic Party? Right. So is John Stewart saying that? I was trying to figure out, look, here's what they do, Elon buys Twitter and they act like that's what's going, you know, the censorship and whatever, right, right. No, no, you guys owned Twitter and controlled Twitter and lied through Twitter and Twitter worked with the White House and Big Tech and everything else. And then you guys changed all the narratives on everything. You guys just got done doing this. Just by the way, we're not done with all the lies that are coming out now with the CIA and their participation and everything, everything from Fauci to Hunter Biden's laptop to all the 52 people who signed the Declaration saying it had all the earmarks of Russian collusion. You guys just came off of five years of Russian collusion and five years of COVID and Hunter Biden's laptop and Joe Biden's fine. You guys just got done lying by controlling Southern power law, by controlling the media for the last decade. So what is going on? I don't know what this is, whistleblower Kamala Harris, ABC whistleblower, an unverified anonymous affidavit circulated on the social media claimed ABC news coordinated with Kamala Harris campaign ahead of the September 10th presidential debate. Yeah, of course, it's all, that's all you guys have done, John Stewart. So I don't know what you're talking about or are you talking about us and are we confused? Or what is it? Was it there an NPR whistleblower too? Yes, it's all like Republicans being like, we're not funding you anymore. It's all collusion. It's all your side. We just lived through this lab or the origins of COVID, everything, January 6th, all of it. You guys lied about everything. The transgender trying to. to, you know, transition minors and lying to parents, and we're totally safe with this by the way. - And you coordinated with everybody from, you know, from social media to the big tech platforms to, you know, all the news outlets. I have no idea what John, but okay. - AI propaganda, dog decision. I mean, the list goes on and on. - Oh, oh, it's all the global warming and all the environmental shit. All right, so John, what is John talking about? I don't, but I can't tell. I think he was doing a stick. Like he was trying to insinuate that, is it Orban? - Yeah. - No, Victor Orban. Well listen, I'm not a fan of the guy. I agree with his immigration policies, but broadly, I do think that he's a dictator. I'm not a fan of the guy. I don't like how he shuts down, you know, diverse talking, all that stuff. But I think that he was doing a stick and he was trying to be like, oh, well, if that happened in America and he's insinuating that it is happening in America, and it's beyond Fox News now to them. 'Cause they're so annoyed that Republicans took away federal funding for NPR and they're so annoyed that Barry Weiss is doing a decent job over at CBS News and the free pet press, right? Heaven forbid, their fingers not be able to like puppeteer everything and everyone that they wanted for so long. - Yes, your definition of free speech being controlled by others cannot be, we can't control Joe Rogan, therefore we don't have free speech. And we can't control Twitter and we can't - Subtell. - Control the outcomes of elections by using the CIA and the FBI. That's your definition of we don't get to control everything. - Free speech that they like is free speech, that's okay. - Please. - Not the free speech that they don't like. Speaking of speech that they don't like, this is absolutely awful. - Peter Magyar is the current prime minister of Hungary. - Oh, was it Orban before? - Yes. - Oh, okay. - It was. - Is it a new guy like a hand-picked person that Orban picked? 'Cause that's also another sign of a dictator. Putin does it. - I don't know, but now I want chicken pop or cash. That's what spreads off too. - No cattle. - Do you want in a landslide, kind of like Maduro would? Is that, I need to do some investigation before I keep you out of it? - All right, quick one. What do we got? - Quick one, speaking of speech that people don't like and then it allows them to be the perpetrator and pretend like they're the victim, but they're really just asshats. Lefty's vandalized turning point headquarters over the weekend and sprayed red paint on Charlie Kirk statue. They also continued down the road next to it. Have you been to the turning point headquarters? - No. It's like South Phoenix. I've been there, it's interesting. It's a very populated area. Obviously has a ton of security. I was just there this spring, visiting with friends and they have this, they had this impromptu memorial with the sign that people would come. Like people would come and take pictures and cry and pray and leave flowers and stuff. It was like a memorial for Charlie and they just recently added this statue of him. And that's, I think it's taken from the day that he died when he was waving to the crowd when he got to the university there in Utah. And somebody put the frowny face on it 'cause that's super mature and dumped red paint on it, but they also defaced signs nearby that talked about prayer and Jesus and wrote like Satan and some of the little messages on there. - We're just getting back to the theme. They just went the opposite of whatever it is. Normal people want, that's all. They're not really into Satan. They're not really into whatever it is they're saying. They're just fucking angry. And they have a defiance disorder. And they're into the opposite of whatever is normal and whatever you would like. - Like normal people don't go around in the middle of the night and write Satan over Jesus's name. - Yeah, but they don't believe in Satan or Jesus. They just, they believe in the opposite of whatever. 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