Choosing a Capstone Topic with Charlie Paddock

I'm Nicola Taland and Crime World is back at Cork Opera House on March 27th, where Nile and I will be uncovering the secrets world of Christy, the Dapper Don Kinahan. Join us for this live show, tickets corkpodcastfestival.ie. After personal use? Well, I mean, he made a good case for himself that his case was really that 4,000 which included sleeping tablets, soppie clone and diazopan, I think, and a few magic collection of stuff, like a supermarket, traleigh worth of drugs. Well, I don't know if you can tell you 4,000 doesn't get you the amount of drugs or months would've. And his basic line was he had to buy an embulk for himself because he was afraid to walk down the street because there have been threats against his life and he had been shot. So that was the case he made. I was advised that that's the position you're in, it wouldn't be a great idea to stay in and just chew magic much. Probably. Well, if you're a fear of your life, I don't know if that's the way to go, but anyway, did George had a, I suppose, a limited sympathy form? So no boiling, let's go back a wee bit because yes, he was involved in an arm dropperie many years ago, has 24 previous convictions, was sort of an associate or friend of Christy Kinahan's at one stage. Yeah, he was he was very much a tough dangerous criminal. And in 2007, he was jailed for his role in the tentative arm robbery of the bank and at that time some of the other people prosecuted with him would have would go on to become very serious criminals. And he was described as an associate of Christy Kinahan's senior at that point, at that point. One of I suppose a collection of criminals operating in the North, in the North side of the city, in around the Fingalous area, associated with people like Aemondon as well. But no, Bollum was big age gap between himself and Christy Kinahan. Well, in about 14 really years, it would have been more of the Marlowe Highland generation. Yeah, but a very much a feared character, you know. But I suppose his, you know, he served this time, he came out and by the time he came out, some of the younger generation had appeared and he certainly became involved in probably the most complex web of few shootings this city has ever seen. His son Lee Boyland was associating with a crew that sort of totally imploded around 2019. Sean Little was a friend of Lee Boyland's son. Lee Boyland was shot around the May of 2019 from memory and he was very badly injured in the, sorry, in the April I think of 2019 and a month later Sean Little was killed. He was murdered out in North County Dublin. And in the aftermath of Sean Little's murder, an associate of his, Hamid Salambar, who would have been blamed on setting him up was shot in the front garden of the little home. It was, it was, that wasn't that hugely complex, that, that feud. I think that was all because they were all trying to put the heavy on people to collect debts because they were still clinging on to their moniker, have been part of the Kinahan cartel. And I think others had sort of gone, well, they're gone. So, you know, they were kind of kicking back at them. But after that, a month after Sean Little was murdered and Samhid Salambar in the garden, Nole Boyland himself was shot. And I recall this exactly because I think it was caught on video. It was. He was running away from a gunman and he, he started to run towards a supermarkets. And I think he was shot outside the supermarkets. Did the gunman follow a man? The gunman followed the man and I don't know if he was shot, but he was, he was, he certainly emerged from that supermarkets and was sitting on the, decided the road quite conscious after suffering very seriously. Roday Lai, wasn't it? Roday Lai, and actually a lot of the footage, the footage of the gunman chasing him through the little supermarkets was on inside the cave. One of those documentary and was really dramatic. And then Nole Boyland was shot, but he seemed to be sitting up while bleeding and was then gave the, the cards and the emergency services gave out crap to them when they arrived on the scene. And you know, it was, it was really, I mean, it was broad daylight and everything. So going back to his son, Lee Boyland, because Lee Boyland attended the funeral of Sean Little, his friend in a wheelchair at the time. He was badly injured back then. We haven't really seen him in the aftermath of that. Was Lee Boyland sort of drawn into that feud that had involved? So Sean Little was killed months after his friend, Zack Parker, had been shot dead. But in the January of that year, he was sitting outside a gym in a Jeep, little known drug dealer, really not that long in the game. But yet, had all the trappings of it, the Jeep, the 26,000 in the bank account that he'd saved had been on a load of holidays. And they were kind of very bling that group. Yeah, I mean, they were, they were called the Gucci gang for a reason and it was because of their, their love of bling and designer goods. So Lee Boyland obviously was targeted in the aftermath of his son shooting and two people have gone to prison in connection with that shooting. A guy called Derek Burn, who was convicted a couple of years ago for his role in that plush and his role was buying a car that was used as a getaway car. And he's serving a prison sentence for that guy called Alan Graham from Nimric was also convicted for his role in that in that murder plush Alan Graham was a convicted drug dealer associated with criminal gangs down there served the prison sentence, come up and have been hired to carry out, carry out his role in that. And he was convicted in relation to some of these anti gang-lang charges. Are you talking about in connection with Leeber Lee Boyland shooting or no boyland shooting? No boyland shooting. So you know that those two people have been convicted, but the background to all of this murder remains quite complex and it's certainly it's been said that it's what sparked this series of shootings was the murder of Eric Fowler. Now Eric Fowler was killed in 2018. Eric Fowler was an associate of the Kineh and Gang, very you know said to be very close to the Daniel Kineh on one stage. And there was a massive fallout in the aftermath of this. Certainly Lee Boyland was targeted in the aftermath of that. And we can see then ultimately it is believed no boyland was shot as part of the same feud if you want. Now Alan Graham of course made a very serious criminal in the aftermath of the shooting of no boyland. He visited and stayed at the home of Derek Butler DeVoy and but Derek Butler DeVoyves never charged in connection with that shooting. Here it goes. And now to make it even more complex I'm going to throw something in here because so Eric Fowler was shot in the aftermath shot dead in the aftermath of the arrest of Imre Errakis the Estonian hitman who came to Ireland in order to carry out a plot to kill James Magogatli on behalf of Daniel Kineh and the arrest and subsequent conviction of Imre Errakis and really the I mean that was atsof to the guard operation in regard to that because Imre Errakis was placed under surveillance from the minute he landed in Dublin was followed out to Eric Fowler's father's house out in Blake's town cottages and was arrested there. And the arrest I was told internationally of Imre Errakis was a huge embarrassing to the Kinehen cartel and there was a lot of paranoia in existence there. They didn't realize at the time was actually the Lithuanian police and the Estonian police were looking at Imre Errakis for something completely different and were following him and were watching his movements and had tipped off the Irish police when he came to Ireland and that's how the surveillance operation got up on that grouping and that's how he was arrested and others too. And now it's always very difficult if there is an informant somewhere in the ranks for the police in any country to give a story that totally makes sense but you can actually see the timeline of that one and what happened in the aftermath with Imre Errakis of course was that he was extradited back to Lithuania where he was wanted for a number of different murders. So the theory from that scenario was that at the time of his arrest the Kinehen organisation had to blame somebody and had to take somebody out and that the Kinehen organisation themselves may have been involved in the murder of Errik Fowler, their own man. Feller was the wrong man. And certainly what had happened with Eric Feller was that there was a lot of issues around drug deaths at that time, both that he owed money and he was owed money. And there was pressure was going on. And it was certainly said maybe not that the Kinnon cartel had done it themselves, but had given the nod because Feller had been in a dispute with a sort of a local drug scarring. And that that fallout and even that drugs going then had also taken aim at the boilance. So very, very confusing picture. Certainly the two people that have been convicted for no boilance were hired in. - Were hired in. - Yeah, certainly Alan Graham was literally a stop from limerick to carry it out, but no involvement in the feud, no knowledge, presumably knowledge of some of the people, but not any skin in the game for one of the better term. And Butler DeVoy, of course, who wasn't charged, but Butler DeVoy was also circulating around the Kinnon cartel at that time, was both using them and being used by them was being supplied weapons by them, but was really a kind of a loan operator as well who was suspected of involvement in some of the Kinnon cartel's activities. So it's a really murky business. Lee Boylin was, it looked really bad for him for a long time. It looked like he would never walk again. Ultimately, he made a quite miraculous recovery. And we didn't hear from him for a long time, but we did at one point hear him seeking to get a taxi license. Lee Boylin had very few criminal convictions, almost known, but he had been refused to get a taxi license because the guards had made an objection to it. And at that point, he walked into court. I think it was certainly believed he would never walk again at one stage. And at that point, he also said he had no association with any criminal activities anymore. I mean, if he looked back on it, when he first started being pictured, he was always with Sean Little in particular. I think it was really close pals with him and Zack Harker was always on our trips, but he seemed to have put that pass behind him. And now his father seems to be attempting to do the same, at least in court, according to his defense solicitor at the very least, because we didn't hear any evidence in relation to this from the prosecution. What we did here was that on January 22, 2025, the Guardian Rager's house and found a total of 4,319 Euro value of Diasa Pins' uplicone, comprehensive and magic, oh yeah, magic mushrooms, yeah. So, Boilin was interviewed by Guardian, and made followed missions about the ownership of the drugs, and that he has then said his solicitor, who's a guy called Mervin Harnett, said that Boilin admitted he had a colorful past, and said that he had some tragedies. His son was shot, he was shot, and then sometime in 2024, he had to break into his father's house, where he found him dead on the floor. Obviously a traumatic event. And exception was a large volume of drugs, but then described how he couldn't go out to buy them in bits. So, he basically was, it's like going to most graves. It's supposed to be, but you're not wholesaling big time. I mean, obviously like 4,000 euros were to still a significant amount, but it's if he consider. To have him at home at one stage, it is. Yeah, if he has apparently moved on and is with a new partner and has a good father to his steps, children will give him. And I think that. Well, if I have to recent years as well, I think that was covered. I mean, if you consider where he was, maybe 20 years ago when. Yeah, I mean, the kids. Is he ultimately your guy who's maloed? Is that it? Well, I'm an artist team. Well, he probably has a artist team, a bit. A certain little theory again. Well, I tell you again. So, yeah, too. So, it was done on a study of people that were, I suppose, very chaotic, extreme criminals. It was a study done by criminologists at the time. And what they said was that these people started in their teenage years. Now, they're talking about people that are. At the very highest risk of activity in relation to crime. So, basically armed robbers. Re-authenters. But, yeah, but also violent armed robbers or people involved in kidnapping or at the very highest level, hitmen, gunmen. And that they. They peak at the age of 27. So, that's the. They're at the most dangerous at the age of around 27. They started in their late teens. They either go to prison or get involved in crime until they're 27. And after that, they begin a slow burn out. And they're often involved in drug addiction and drinking. Yeah. And by the time they hit the sort of mid-40s, they get burned out. And they're more likely to be sitting at home drinking. Two in magic motions. Drinking six or seven. Six to eight cans a day, they're describing. And telling tales of the wrongdoing. And maybe getting the odd. Maybe the odd point you're up every now and again. So, mellowing. Getting burned out. What they described us. And that is the life cycle. And it was an argument about. You know, when people should be jailed. And it was actually an argument about that they should be jailed quickly. Not treated well. In the early years. So locked up by the time they're at the peak of their. Yeah. I don't know if they are. Yeah. And interesting theory. I'm not sure how well that will go down with. With human rights lawyers. Yeah. Exactly. Anyway, look. No, boiling. And certainly. You said it's a short sentence. I was a four months in total, I think. Spend it or.? No, no, I think it was to be served. And I suppose, and of course, he would have. You know, if he went into the prison system his past would follow him and he'd be. He'd be. You know, he'd be put in a security unit as a result. But four months in the modern prison system, you're in an edelock quicker, I think. Pretty much. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, now. From the hitch that changed Gangland forever. This six-part anniversary special revisits that fateful day when David Bern was shot dead at the Northside Hotel, igniting a bloody feud between the Kinahan and Hutch Gangs, one of the deadliest rivalries in Irish history. Here's a taste of the new series exclusive to CrimeWorld.com subscribers. So that Friday was one of those really quiet days. I mean, everybody, we all knew the Daniel Kinahum was in Dublin for the clash of the Clans boxing way. And at least who we knew he was due into Dublin the next day, that clash of the Clans, Bouch match had been heavily advertised. But the day itself was. There was just little going on. So there was very little happening that day. It's February. It's kind of a quiet enough time for news in general. And Alan Cherry and Ernie Leslie were on the road. There was another story actually in Fingeless. What was that, do you remember? Well, it was one of these classic sort of district court stories where a guy had, I think, some teenagers at Trone Stones at his car and he got out and slapped the teenager. Always great kind of human stories because some people feel sorry for the teenagers and some people don't. And so Alan had been out there. But he. The guy had moved on. He called it his house to see if he wanted to talk. He moved on. He wasn't there. And we discussed going to the Regency earlier and I said, "Look, just go along and see what happens." Diverged there. Obviously he weren't expecting anything. And obviously that point of Alan being there would be the subject of conspiracy. But we'll get into that later at a later point. For sure. So it was a case really that day of one thing hadn't worked out, so go to the next. But also there was definitely a general sense of if we could be there, be there just in case. Yes. And as you said, you know, to see who was standing beside the Kinons and who wasn't from that bigger organized crime group. So Alan and Ernie went out and I got a call. I think you got a call almost simultaneously, but I got a call from Alan. I had spoken to him earlier on the day saying, "Yeah, you know, see what happens." And he phoned me up and said, "There's after being the shooting and I think we've got a picture." And I actually went, "Ha ha, yeah, very funny." But of course, you know, he stopped me and said, "No, I'm serious." But after, there's some guys come out with a gun, they're shot fired, and there's total and not a chaos. And you know, you know, I first thought is, you know, get yourself safe after a minute. My second thought was, "I hope they did get good pictures." You know, you're still thinking they have to get safe. I mean, I know you probably got the similar call because Ernie and Alan obviously were in the same Jeep. And I was, Ernie's the guy taking the photographs. Yes. You know, so he's on the photo, so I actually had gone for a pizza for lunch and I had come back over to the office and the phone rings and it was Ernie. And I answered, and he was panicked on the other end of the phone like, I mean, this was real high octane stuff. And he's still trying to take photos. He's trying to tell me what's happened. He's told me he thinks he's got a good one of one of the shooters. as they were running from the scene. He was trying to call up the photograph on the back of his camera, 'cause it would have taken him a while to get it onto a screen, but he'd also sent it into the office. - Yeah, you know what I mean? So he was kind of in the middle of doing a number of things. And as I was on the phone to him from memory, the photograph came into the office and we put it up on the big screen and it was clear to see that this wasn't just one of the shooters as he suspected, but the footage was too one of them was dressed as a woman. - Which is of course, it is, there was also this confusing story about guards coming in with weapons and obviously we know now that they weren't really or you guys, they were guys dressed as them, but Alan was telling me this, there was talk with these guards and then obviously there was, you know, the crowd fleeing from the scene. So it was all confusing, but as you said, Ernie had taken a picture of the back of his camera, people will know what the photographers' cameras look like and they have a little digital screen. So you don't see even great detail, but we knew this is a once in a lifetime photograph has been gotten. - Yeah, as soon as it came in. And of course, you know, look, the newsroom, newsrooms aren't as busy as they used to be. They used to be very busy, busy places with phones ringing everywhere. And it felt like a proper newsroom that day, remember everybody's phone was going, people were hearing little bits about it, it was the news was starting to break about it. And of course, we were there, sitting in the office with this photo, there's that sort of new sense in you that you want to run this. - Yeah. - And at the time, we weren't putting stuff up online, this would have been held for the paper on the Sunday and this is a Friday afternoon. We had something really special here, but we also, I think, knew the guards were going to be desperate for that picture because they were two gunmen running from a scene of a crime. So it was a very compromised situation and there was a bit of arguments going on and there was a, you know, voices were raised. - Totally. I mean, because it is complex. I mean, normally the journalism likes to keep itself separate from the guardee investigations. So guardee investigations go on and journalism reports on them. But obviously, then you're putting this compromising position because you have guards running out visibly with hangons in their hands and, you know, they're obviously then disappeared into the eater and you have, certainly you have to have a discussion about what is your civic responsibility in terms of the help the guards, do you, you don't want these armed gunmen to run down the street and kill another few people. So it was a complex one and people were aware straight away that the guards are going to want these pictures and want to use it for their purposes. And we also have our purposes, which is to tell what happened and to report on the news. So there was a conflict straight away. - From my memory as the afternoon went on and, you know, I was talking to context and to other people who were involved in crime journalism, et cetera, it became apparent that there were no guards at the way in that in actual fact, the guards didn't seem to be there at all. They were called literally by the hotel and had arrived in response to what had already gone on. Of course, David Byrne had been shot dead in the reception of the hotel. We were getting photographs in later in the day, which showed a very shocked looking Liam Byrne standing outside the hotel as Hansen is pockets stand beside his cousin Liam Rowe, another significant cartel member. There was no sign of Daniel Kinahan. I was getting calls from people who were telling me that these professional killers had been flown into the country and had already been flown out. There was rumors, there was spin, and also there was the general, I suppose, conversations in regards to, oh my god, what is going to happen next? I mean, all anyone knew for sure was something was going to happen. David Byrne was a very, very senior lieutenant. He was also from criminal royalty, from the Byrne family. His brother-in-law, Thomas Barmer-Kavanaugh, his brother, Isley and Byrne. And he's very much at the heart of the Kinahan cartel. We knew from the beginning that this attack had occurred as part of the rivalry between the Kinahan and Hutch factions of what was once the one organisation. And I think everybody was really trying to predict what this might lead to, but nobody could have guessed. Nobody could have guessed. And of course, those rumors straight away went around. It was straight away focused on the Hutch gang. But at this time, if you remember, while there had been other incidents, for example, and attempted hit on Jerry Hutch in Manzerati, it wasn't those incidents weren't always public. People were straight away thinking, "This isn't the type of normal organised crime operation." They were looking at the weapons, saying, "Is there a paramilitary organisation involved here?" And nobody knew fully. And of course, people, what people did for your straight away was no matter what people knew how big and how powerful the Kinahans had become, and the likelihood of them not striking back was inevitable. That blood was gone out of the flow. That bit, absolutely, 100%. But at that very early stage, I recall contacts of mine suggesting that the Hutchers were an army. Did they have the backing of the dissidents? Was this going to, you know, were they going to be very heavily armed? Because of that, they had contacts in the north. It was like, as if people were trying to size up how to preemory our ship teams were going to play against one another. That's what it felt like. You've been listening to an extract from the Regency, ten years on from the hit that changed Gangland forever. Visit CrimeWorld.com and subscribe to hear the full series now. And you'll also get exclusive access to our other podcast, Deep Dives on the Dapper Don, Kristi, Kinahan, Thomas Palmer, Kavanaugh and more.