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China w/ Oliver Tree | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

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China w/ Oliver Tree | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

Oliver Tree, a musician and traveler, shares insights from his global adventures, centering on his recent trip to China. He highlights the country’s safety, advanced infrastructure, and unique urban features like Chongqing’s dramatic, downward-sloping cityscape and brutalist architecture. Despite initial concerns about cultural misperceptions, Tree finds China to be both visually stunning and culturally rich, with a strong emphasis on surveillance and efficiency. He explores how the absence of traditional social media in China shapes daily life, and how food—especially the extreme street cuisine—serves as a gateway to cultural connection. The episode also reflects on travel alone as a transformative experience, enabling deeper self-awareness and creativity. Oliver ties this journey to his music-making process, where he separates artistic identity from production, using travel to fuel inspiration and passion. His work in music and photography, especially through global exploration, reveals a deeper love for architecture and the mundane beauty found in everyday urban environments. The conversation underscores themes of personal growth, cultural curiosity, and the value of embracing unfamiliar experiences. Mavily New York is briefly mentioned as a product featuring a new setting mist that delivers long-lasting, breathable hydration. The episode blends travel storytelling with personal development, offering a vivid, reflective account of adventure and self-discovery.

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I was actually just walking by and I ran into a group of fans and they were basically buskers, punks, some homeless people mixed in the side of the street and they're like, "Oh, fortune, they didn't believe it and they're trying to get me to come back and they wanted to buy me a beer." So they had some instruments and they were like, "Cowboys don't cry." I was like, "Maybe the only demographic that listened to my country album." So I was like, "Hell yeah, I feel at home here, but New York is. " I saw your web store all once. You came to the show? Yeah, I mean, cell phone counter came to the show. Okay. He's from impractical jokers? Uh-huh. Amazing. Yeah, we loved it. That was like seven years ago or something? Yeah, for sure. But I remember how you said something about Manhattan as a borough and it made me, it was the first time I thought of like, "Oh yeah, these are separate places. I'm nothing like Staten Island. We're not like the Bronx. This is Manhattan." Was that the show where I did the whole accent with the Brooklyn accent? You were in a cast. Oh, is that right? I was at the tour in the wheelchair. Yeah. That was hardcore. It was so fun. Dude, I lost one third of the blood in my body. I had an ulcer in my stomach and my foot was really fucked up and I had to do the tour in a wheelchair or not do the tour at all. And I didn't know where the bleeding came from and actually the first flight I took off in the plane. This is into travel story so we can bypass this just off of what you brought up. But I had a show in Toronto, first show of the tour and I am going to the airport and I start feeling super sick and I end up projectile vomiting and diarrhea and this black stuff out of me. On a flight? Right before the flight. And then I go on the flight and I'm sitting there and the airplane is about to take off and I just feel it coming up and I'm like, "I can't hold this in." And I literally just start projectile vomiting, black all over the side of the wall. And they're literally taxing at this plane. They turn the tax around and they take me and they said, "You have two options. You can get off this plane or we can take you in the ambulance." And I was like, "I can't get off this flight. I have to go. I have to play a show." This is like the pressure that they put on artists to play a show. Let's just like, somebody's got a babysitter already. They're coming. Yeah. I have to be there. Exactly. People counting on me. Yeah. You want to go on a flight, you need to go tomorrow with a doctor's note. So I got that. I got on the flight. I made it. I did the whole show in a wheelchair and I had a microphone strapped on and I was able to do 360 wheelies while I was performing. And it was a crazy experience. But I found out that I had internal bleeding and I had to get an endoscopy and colonoscopy at the same time. I remember up my butt and in my mouth and yeah, we found out you had ulcers and it was from having this thing called HP library or something like this, which is caused by eating food contaminated with fecal matter. And I was able to get rid of it through some pills, but that's what created space for the ulcer. And I damaged my foot and I was taking extra strength, Tylenol. My dad gave me those prescribed. It was ibuprofen. It was like mega pills because I was in Japan on a trip and I really fucked my foot up and then things just went downhill from there, but you got spit roasted by doctors. I got spit roasted. Yeah. It was rough. That's crazy. It was rough. But it was a beautiful experience. And I still, the show went on, but yeah, no, you did great at Webster in that wheelchair and like beat up. I kind of have to remember like beat up some guys like fuck you, just play the villain. Yeah. I love play villain. Fallen out of your chair. But not today. Not today. Not today. The cool thing about this podcast is that I just I'll reach out to people and I'm like 'cause guests, I mean, audience suggests like I heard so and so has been somewhere. I'm like, all right. Let me see. 'Cause that's really matter who you are. Right. If you've been somewhere that you loved, even if it's only one place. Yeah. You're like, oh, I want to tell you all about Italy. I want to tell you all about one trip. I wish it could be all places. I know. But we got to keep it strict here. Multiple episodes. Prodo call. I already dropped Toronto, the T-bomb. Yeah. Nothing else. I promise I won't mention one other place. But when I reached out to you, I'm like, I'm like, hey, they, I heard you travel and it was like, oh, bro, you don't even know. It was so fun talking to you online, just like talking about it, it gets you going. I love adventure and it's always nice to meet another adventure. There's always room for another adventure in my life. Yeah. That's the thing I prioritize with friendships now at this point in my life, it's like three different things. One of them is someone who inspires me. Two of them is someone that I can collaborate with, so those two kind of fall in the same boat. But the third thing is someone who lives in another place or can go on an adventure with me. So I'll prioritize having people in my life that maybe just live in Kazakhstan or Kyrgyzstan or somewhere random that maybe you and I aren't really tapped in at, but I'm like, oh my God, this is so epic that I now have someone that can enter me into this whole world and I can have a friend when I go to these places. It's boots on the ground. So it's like, so it's like, if you read up the book of like Manhattan, let's say, where should you go? It's like, all right, the popular pizza place, but what you really want is like, what's the good local bar here? What's like, where's our jazz on Tuesdays? What is it? I'm not going to tell anybody. You're going to blow your spawn up. Exactly. I have a place I protect. Right. That's great jazz more on Tuesdays. Maybe we'll get it out of you. I mean, I'll tell you afterwards. Okay. I'm just not going to tell you. Just whisper it. Okay. Well, I'll bleep it. It's ****. Okay. I'm having to be. It's called ****. Shut the **** up, bro. You're going to bleep that? Bleep it. You can't bleep that. You're leaving that in. So where are we going today, though? Okay. It's almost impossible for me to try to pick a place because for those of you who don't know, I've been on quite the adventure. I just came back after a six month run, traveling all seven continents. But that was only just a six month run of not coming to America. I got here about a week and a half ago to the States. I came actually to New York for Tribeca because I had a film premiering in Tribeca. So which is across the street, by the way. So I came back for work. The film is called Paradise Records is directed by my friend Logic who is a rapper who's transitioning into film. I play a robber in this movie and had a really amazing time and I'm really happy with my contribution. But I will say I had only been in America for 36 hours. I came to Florida to play one show at a county fair for a bunch of crazy weed pot smokers. They're spinning fire, and yeah, that was my only time in the last six months that I came to America. So besides that, I stayed one year in America for COVID purposes. So you just got back here? Just got back. So let me ask you a question because no one gets us and I always lose it. What's reintegration like? I'm just a I'm on vacation working, but I went to like Tahoe and then I'm not reintegrating. But I mean, like, as you step back in here, are you like, oh, right, right, they do this. They do this here. Like I've forgotten. I don't know. I was a toilet paper. I remember one time I was like, okay, actually, this is a great question. So actually when I went to my friend's apartment, who's letting me stay, shout out Michael, my boy, I work with him on a project called Unit and a fuck Michael. And Michael has seven apartments around the world. So like, do by London, Hong Kong, New York City. So I come and I'm staying here and I'm like, go to the to brush my teeth and I bring a cup with me. And for the first couple of nights, I still use the cup because I'm like, I don't know, like, there's only a few places that I will not get diarrhea from. So I was like, even questioning it, like I didn't even, it's just part of my defense mechanism. And I at least get diarrhea once a month. Depends where you are, but there's somehow, some way eat one thing, a little ice and a cup. But that's the main thing I look out for is getting stomach bugs. So that was my reintegration in. But besides that for me, I'm just I'm a tourist. That's a no travel video is taking a toothbrush and pouring a bottle of water over it and then brushing your teeth. A lot of microplastics in my testicular sack. That is in the amoeba's. But so you settled on China. I settled on China. And there's a few reasons for that. One of them is because I was just there. I did. The longest stint of this year was spent in China. Whoa. I did about a month there. And I think that there's a lot of misinformation about China. I think there's a lot of super negative propaganda in America specifically about China. And so for me, I feel like as an explorer, I think a lot of people write it off as an idea or they have a lot of misinformation about it. And I don't know everything and I don't pretend to know anything about China. But I thought there was a chance to put some show the love to China. Well, I was showing that as an experience, right? So when people tell me like, is New York dangerous? I go, no. I walk around. It's not it. I'm like, I'm telling you firsthand, I walk around. I'm not scared. So like. But you're also a man and you're seven feet tall and you're pretty strong. So like for me, it's scary. A little guy like me. I'm about four foot seven four foot eight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We are speaking on this stoop before this and you know it's very specific to where you go and what places that you visit in that region but China specifically on this topic is probably one of the most safe places in the world as far as my experience goes and there's a few reasons for that and we can get into that later but I will say there's a lot of negativity that goes around our vision of China from America and I'm like this is so wild also my brother lives in China so I've seen it from the inside perspective his wife is from China so I got to be able to spend some time with also Chinese artists and be able to get to see it from a little bit of a different lens than maybe a typical westerner so what what can Chinese artists like what's the vibe there can they what can they do and what can they not do well as far as I know it's very challenging to break out of China or to break into China through music just due to the fact of the applications they don't use the traditional Instagram and Tik Tok and different things which they use yeah I think there's red note there's a different a whole different social media thing so for me out of all the places in the world that go China's like one of the only places I haven't been able to really be able to tour or be able to build an audience I obviously have fans there and I've had songs that crossed over there but I really want to kind of explore that and I made a documentary while I was there for the the month period and I was trying to kind of dismantle some of this propaganda that we've been fed as well as just kind of show the beauty and and the how diverse is such a massive country such a massive population yeah you could spend an entire lifetime in China just like you could in America and not even see a fraction of it so I'm not gonna pretend to say that I know anything about China but I will say I have some some stories and some places that I really here's the crazy about China look at here's on a map so like these are where the cities are yeah on the right and then what the fuck is here there's not even any dots is that desert I would hope I don't even know this is what I assume I know that this is yeah not a lot is going on in there as you can see but like are there towns there's gotta be some there's gotta be but there's not even any there's no markings at all anywhere this is why I said you can't ask me I don't know anything about yeah but this is a great question I'm sure we could find it just always gets me whatever I look at a map of China I'm like well what is all that place maybe it's desert maybe I don't know we're not gonna find out today we're not so we're just starting what you do okay so the start of the trip I went to Shanghai to visit my brother okay so Shanghai is futuristic city had you've been right mm-hmm so one thing I love about Shanghai is for one it's like the most clean place ever for city that big it's fucking crazy in America we have like the dirtiest cities we have such gnarly issues with homelessness and you don't see that in China it's not the same kind of situation it's a very they keep things very clean very safe and I feel like as far as Shanghai goes the buildings have LED screens lit up like seeing the bun that night it's like futuristic it's like another world what's the bun I have a picture of it actually I know you asked for some of my photos yeah what that's the bond it's just like the oh that the one on left yeah it's just the whole it's that area whoa but it's just yeah yeah yeah okay you know I feel like maybe in America we have laws against light pollution or something like this so we I don't know why this is only Times Square is like that here right but that's gorgeous yeah it's a very beautiful place as far as Shanghai you know they told me when I landed in Shanghai yeah and the the comics there they were like hey just so you know there's no violent crime here so you're safe yeah once they told me that I was like stick and I lost all my fear and I just wandered by myself and and that was the one thing that hit me that it was opposite of what you said you know of what not what you said but what they tell you right and I think yeah the reason that it is this way is because there is such heavy surveillance as far as cameras everywhere yeah they can track everything and a lot of people might say okay this is horrible invasion of our privacy it's not like in America we don't have people watching everything we do I mean cameras it can't even rob any place anymore it's just we can't do anything fun in America anymore so what's the point no but what's the is it the NSA or what's the one that is surveillance yeah it's like okay we have like you know knowledge that we have pretty much all of our freedom of you know searching online is fully being watched and done fully being what I got forget I'm gonna bomb a senator or something like that I can't even talk to you about it online like decide later if I want to fucking kill a senator you got to like they're like we already got you you're done yeah and I'm like I wasn't gonna do it I was talking it out anyway you were working grinding it let me come do all of my own that this is a bad idea yeah well I will say this though so with this setup with the cameras I actually have a picture of some of the cameras this isn't necessarily in Shanghai but if you go to security camera pictures yeah I documented just a couple that stood out to me so there's a cross like driving vehicles there is cameras so obviously they trace your movement which this seems like a bad thing right keep going to another image just so you could see this on the great wall that got security cameras there and then go to this this is this is in Chongqing but this is an example of on the street so we think oh my god this is like this is a bad thing it's okay first of all you and I were not we don't have privacy on the outside in public I don't have privacy now I am living a very normal life I don't have security guards I don't need that I have friends who have all the security and that but I don't feel like it's necessary in general you lose a lot having a fucking bodyguard with you at all times yeah hey guys I'm gonna break into today's episode to let you know a little bit about the guest Oliver Tree he's got a new album out right now called love you madly hate you badly it's available on Spotify and everywhere you can also find him on YouTube at Oliver Tree and an Instagram at Oliver Tree I also got to say Cornelius Cummings is whack bro he's a fucking straight up loser dude if you like him you're a loser too yeah I'll be on the record with that Cornelius Cummings is whack what are you gonna do Cornelius nothing I've also got a brand new storytelling show out right now called the end it's my big dream to bring this back and it's available right now on ymhstudios.com and our issue fear.com you can buy each episode for $5.99 or you can get all seven episodes for $30 that's a $12 savings it's actually too much damn now that I think about that's actually too much of a savings I got to do something about that but until I do that's a $12 savings coming to you best comments in the world are doing it me I'm in episode one and episode five me Tumsigore Colin Tiro and that one episode five me Mark Norman Duncan Tressel and who else is in it Tony Hinchcliffe Bobby Kelly big Jay Okerson Dan Soder Shane Gilles Tony Hinchcliffe Steph Tolla Jordan Jensen Alisa Deek Miss Pat fucking Christi Stefano uh uh just a read damn dude it goes on and on and on Tom Sagora um god damn I forget everybody I forget everybody everybody's in it guys everybody's in it you'll love it I'll love it rshfr.com or ymhstudios.com get one episode if you got two or more episodes they forgot season if you get one two more episodes Steve Simone um then you get the prologue made by will child for free i'm rshfr support my dream get one of my things I make cool intro but anyone can take a picture of us on the street anyone and it happens all the time I get tagged and stuff where there's people across the street it happened to me yesterday I've seen pictures where people post stuff so we don't have our consent to be able to go outside we do it's not like we don't have CCTV cameras here in America I don't know some influences here in New York and and she took a picture of this guy with jeans on and no shirt on walking in Manhattan and she and she was like look at this fucking asshole whatever and people like that's rshfr just so you know oh really it was you yeah you and your underwear not just jeans and no shirts that guns out you know I like it so for example today I was walking in New York and a guy asked can I take your picture and he was someone he's like oh I love your music whatever a couple days before someone asked to take a picture the day before that someone is walking in front of me and they far on me and then me and my friend are walking and then we see out across there's a guy filming it so you can't escape cameras and that's just the ones that are like people filming or taking pictures so there's cameras everywhere in this modern day so it's like to be scare of this but here's the plus side of this and this is why I'm talking about this is what I mentioned the plus side so my brother lives there and and he had his motorbike stolen from him and he's like this is crazy where did it go it's gone he goes to the police the police trace on the cameras over to two cities over 60 miles away they find a bike like this is your this is your scooter and he's like no that's not mine this one's yellow and they said no this one's yours we believe this one's yours this is why we traced it through these cameras they see where it's going at all the hideways they open up the the seat of the scooter and there is an all over tree piece of merchandise in the seat so I mean I'm not saying this is good or bad subjectively you could say what you want but as far as like that parts good this is crazy that he was able to uncover his bike and they're like do you want to press charges he's like no I don't care at all but like he got his bike back it was just someone did a sick paint job on it painted it yellow but anyways that's like you can focus on the negative parts yeah so even really shitty things there's a positive part of it for sure there's a reason why they have this yeah so like even like 9/11 right back if you look at it as a whole. But one good thing is that whole part of town now is pretty nice, you know? So you can focus on the nice part. It's like, ah, it's cool. It's a nice thing to have, you know? - And also just like, okay, that aside, who cares about, you know, getting a scooter back? That's like an odd story. But like, you know, you can walk safely down the street. - It's nice to know that if it does get stolen, they're gonna find it. - Yeah. - Okay, that's cool. - So that's something that's interesting to me as far as like, we think about all the negative stuff, but it's not like we even check ourselves to look at, are we really have that much privacy or out in public? Now it is, people are legally allowed to film you without your consent. - We were in Beijing with the comics there, and we all went out three, three, three, three of the morning, walking around, there was some bodega open, and we bought beers, we walked around outside with them, and I was like, can we do this? They go, yeah, as long as you don't skull somebody with the bottle, they don't care. And you're like, well, that's nice. That's really pleasant. There's nice shit to this. - Yeah. And I think it looks insane. Like to me, that's just the art piece. I'm like, whoa. It does look insane. - And that's only a portion of that pool. That's just where like, yeah, it keeps going over the whole street. But yeah, I think as far as like Shanghai goes, it's very modern futuristic city. The train stations are so next level, the bullet trains, how fast they go. Like, I think it's a few hours over to like Suzhou, and then from there you can go to Beijing, but like. - I went to Suzhou. - What did you think? - They had these gardens that the guy who brought me out, his wife worked there, so it was gorgeous. - It's a beautiful place. And he goes, if I remember, he goes, they all feel like there's a sleepy small town next to Shanghai, 'cause there's only eight million people. - Yeah, only eight, and that's the scale. - Yeah. - That's the scale. It's like, I don't know exactly the number, but you know, in the 20s of millions in Shanghai, like that's fucking crazy. That's bigger than so many countries. - Yeah. - Probably the majority of them. And some of the cities, as far as like size goes, like a really good example of this is Chongqing. And Chongqing, if you look at, it's kind of a unique scenario, because the city borders of it are really big. Like, what would you consider? The city is probably much bigger. It's a greater area, right? It's like, you know, when we speak of LA, we're talking about usually LA greater area. As far as when we say like, oh, it's 20 million or whatever, you know, like, I think LA is something like eight million. But then you look at the greater area. - Yeah, you know, all the surrounding places. - It's Chongqing, is that it, middle there? - So the actual size of the city, if you look at it on a map, look at how big that is, that's as big, the city of Chongqing is as big as the size of Austria. - Wow. - The country, Austria. And the population is probably maybe 10 times the amount, roughly something maybe a little less. - In Austria, is everywhere overcrowded there? - No, I mean, that's a big amount of space right there, you know? Obviously, that's a huge landmass. The size of a country, or many countries. But it is a really interesting city because it's built, and you've seen the social media videos, I'm sure, but it's like, it's built on this, basically a slope, so you never really find the bottom level to Chongqing. It just keeps going down, you think you're at the bottom floor, but it's all over. - This is Chongqing? - Yeah, this is Chongqing. - It's gotta be the most racist sounding name of any city. - It does sound horrible when you say it out loud, but this is, as far as I know, and take it with the grain of salt, this is the correct pronunciation. - Chongqing, wow, looks like a video game. - Yeah, this is the one where everyone's probably seen the Instagram TikTok videos, which I've seen so many of 'em, I just wanted to recreate it, and I made a, kind of a troll video, where I recreated someone else's video, I tagged them in it. A lot of people got mad at me because you stole this video, whatever, but it's like, everyone's recreated the same video where it's like, - You never find the bottom, you think you're here, but you're actually here, and it keeps going down, and so I made one, I kind of skewed some of the numbers, and I kind of put my own little twist on it, but it's really just a recreation, a parody of it, in a sense. - Wow. - But it is absolutely-- - Look at the old, beautiful-- - Beautiful. - You know, together like that, and I'll lit up. - Like, you've probably seen the videos where it's like, trains ride through the buildings. And, you know, if you look at my photographs, I took some, the show, let's see here, yeah, like, you can see this, this is a cool one right here. This is a photograph of the carts that are going through the sky, and they kind of weave through apartment complexes. - No, right, really? - Yeah, yeah. So this is a picture I've taken, a series of photos for my book I'm making called Little Man Big World, and I'm not sure if that will be the actual layout of it, but I've been just taking pictures. I think I've taken around 80 plus countries for this book. - And it goes, wait, so it's not going, it's going behind the buildings? - Yeah, it's behind it, it's behind it. - But it's technically like weaving through, you could see like if you go to the bottom right one, like look at the scale of just that one apartment. - Oh my God. - Building so massive. But it just keeps going down, like it goes lower than you can even see there, but. - And it goes down, what further below? - Yeah, further below, yeah. Like you see that bottom part, and you're like, oh, that's the bottom, but it probably goes like five, 10 stories at least. - This is like an apocalyptic, like the bottom, the bottom levels are all polluted. Now we built up, you know? - Yeah, they build upwards. But yeah, that's really-- - I've legitimately never heard of anyone going to Chongqing. - I've really heard about it. - It was the hardest place out of all the places I went to in the last year, just to communicate because English speaking is very low. And there's like a lot of issues with Wi-Fi and things like that when you're underground. You know, it's so many layers that when you go into a restaurant, usually especially if you went to a place that isn't like a tourist spot, it's gonna be very challenging to try to communicate if your Wi-Fi doesn't work and you can't. - Yeah. - People to use a translator. But I think one of the interesting things of China is it's very like, since everything's done through WeChat and you can't use cash, that it's like once you get into the system of it, it's extremely easy to get around. - 'Cause you just go boom. - Yeah, everything is like super tapped in. It's just a little bit of a hurdle to get all the apps downloaded in the different taxis and things set up. But once you do, it's so streamlined. It's probably the easiest place to get around. - How do you handle language bear here and anywhere? - I mean, in general, we're very lucky to be speaking English as our first language and not to say people are gonna all cater to us and I know things are shifting in the future, but I know that as it sits right now, it still seems to be pretty standard second or third language that people speak. In America, we usually speak one language, but a lot of places, that's not the norm. There's usually two, three, sometimes more languages people know. So I've been very lucky just to be an English speaker. If it's a really complicated place, sometimes it helps to have someone who can either someone on the boots on the ground type person that's a friend, or maybe it's-- - Did the Google translator do the thing where you speak into it and speak it back? - It depends, yeah, it takes too long if you're typing out stuff. So I try to use one of the speaking apps, but I think that that was probably-- - I was doing hell, but I was in Paris trying to communicate with somebody, just like a type of cheese I wanted and I was like, and then I did it and he goes, "Oh, I hear it," which is saying. It was like, "No, no, no, I don't get what you were saying." And then I'm like, "Oh, great." It feels like cheating, but it helps. - Soon we'll have like the Google Glass or whatever, whatever that version of it is, yeah. - We'll just go straight to like-- - So it's gonna be like, language will be less than less of a barrier. Probably in the next like four years, we won't even really think about it. - Dude, these are crazy pictures. - Thank you. But yeah, this is just like, it's such a crazy LED ridden, like so much light. It's just, it's bizarre. - So it does keep going down. - Yeah, it looks like the bottom floor. - Yeah. - It's like an airport, but. - Yeah, it's basically a meme at this point for Chongqing, but I think it's probably one of the craziest cities I've ever gone to. And yeah, I had some quite interesting things. They're all about the hot pot there. So it's like super spicy. It's like the, I can't remember the name of the exact pepper. It's the, it's, it's, it's Szechuan. - Yeah. It's so, yeah, it's so numb, it's so crazy. But yeah, when I went like, we couldn't figure out what any of it said and we couldn't communicate. So we're just like, oh yeah, just bring us everything. You're getting pig hearts and all these different crazy things. And I don't know how to use the hot pot. So I'm under cooking it all, over cooking it all. So you need maybe just a little bit of help with something like that, but they're crazy about the hot pot. - Do you get embarrassed when you're like trying to do hot pot or something? And they're like looking at you. Do you get like the like, I want to have done it right. And I feel bad that I'm like, fucking it up. I act like a tourist. - No, I mean, part of my brain that gets embarrassed is so far gone. You know, like the guy who is the climber, he does the free solo movie, the free climber have you ever seen that? The people who don't. Yeah, they did the scan of his brain where it's like the part of his brain that gets scared. It's pretty much non-active. The part of my brain that gets embarrassed because I've publicly embarrassed myself, especially intentionally, for so many years, that part is just gone. So I don't really get embarrassed. I feel sometimes like a idiot, stupid American tourist, but I try to be mindful and try not to take up too much space. Martin Luther King, John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, and now Dog Piss has the stage. All hell, Dog Piss! Guess what? Violent horrendous to show where I do, I guess what I do best, which is complaining way too much about shit that's not that important. - I think all YouTubers should be jailed. Did army of drunken screaming Santa Claus's. The devil's stick guy was the doctor! Shut the fuck! - Come along for this beautiful, disgusting, violent, horrendous journey. - My new YMH show, subscribe, smash that like button! We're gonna be doing this every other week. This is. - Violent horrendous. (upbeat music) - Here you go, I'm giving this to you, but I am Ari Shapher. (upbeat music) - Okay, it's a fucking crazy night we're gonna have here. - Shit, it's about to go down the road. - And we're here to talk Paul. - This is a love story. media, herpes, gonorrhea, and. I'm desperate. I'll stab you in your butt on the floor. You're one of the worst things that could happen. What's your favorite bible verse? I'm like, "I don't know any on Catholic." Did you just see it, Pants? It's not my shit. If you're up there, lady, don't call me. I'm the bad guy in the story. I know that. I'll be a better person tomorrow. At least he's consistent. Finally, something we can agree on. I'll discuss it in heart. Not the evening I plan, but I'm having a blast. Now I feel, excuse me. But, yeah, there's just so much crazy stuff going on everywhere you look. That's just like in a, oh yeah, this is a guy getting his ear cleaned. You can put a dollar or just under a dollar. You get your ears cleaned on the street. Take a little nap like this gent here. Should I do it? No, I didn't do it, but I wanted to. On the street. Yeah, I was running out of time, but I snapped this question. And so this is actual street? That's actual street, yeah. But there's a lot of. Who are you with when you go to those? Well, it always depends. This year I've spent a lot of time by myself exploring alone. And that has been a beautiful journey. Because I think a lot of times we think we need to be around people, but I think we sometimes are scared to be around ourselves. And I think through the process of spending so much time traveling alone, I really got to learn how to love being with myself and realize that it kind of compartmentalizing myself and my brain and my body as separate people so that I kind of recognize like I get to hang out with Oliver today and like whatever Oliver wants to do, I want to do. And so like trying to cherish this relationship with myself and as an artist and producer, you know, this album I've been making around the world on all seven continents. It's been really about. It's out right now, by the way. Yeah. I think it won't even be out. And I don't know what time this will come out, but it should be out. It will come out as soon as the album's out. It's out right now. It just came out in the last six days or today. So the journey of that has been treating myself as the artist and myself as a producer as separate entities. Because I was the only person who wrote and produced this album and I just did it in hotel rooms across 80 different countries, seven continents. I went to Antarctica twice to record this. So like, I used my major label budget to be able to just travel and open up my traveling budgets. And then once I went through that and the album was close to finished, then I started opening up my marketing budgets instead of using them to film things in L.A. and hiring people this or that. I just traveled and explored the world. So I've been kind of trying to, instead of having all the money fall through my hands if I use a studio in L.A. For one day, it could be, you know, with overtime and an engineer fee. That could be two and a half, three thousand dollars. For that amount of money, let's say three days, I could have spent nine grand on going to South Africa and staying out of presidential suite for five days and make five songs and come back and come back. For the hotel, it's quiet enough and you have the sounds right? Yeah, sometimes I wonder like, I'm like, how loud is this? And like, my girlfriend would be like walking down the hallway being like, I could hear you like, all the way down the hallway. So I try to be mindful of it. If I can, I try to get a place this little more tucked away or like, if I can, I always like, I'm mindful of what I spend. But also, if a place is affordable enough to get a nicer suite, that's a little more appropriate because you're kind of more distant. Sometimes they're much bigger spaces, so you don't have the same noise issues. Because I don't want to be annoying people. Yeah, there's that, that's where all the sales influence was. I'm like, get out of the way. Yeah. Like, stop. But what that whole thing, why I brought that up, was because I worked with myself as an artist as a producer and I tried to separate those two things. And I thought, as a producer, how do I get the best out of my artist? And me being the producer and the artist, I had to kind of treat them as two separate roles. So I spent time in LA working with all these producers that were the crem to the crem. Biggest people who have the records for the biggest most hits, most diamond records, most number one hits, blah, blah, blah. And all I did was just soak up game. I used a notepad and I would write down all their rules, which all rules are meant to be broken, but trying to take all this knowledge. And I worked with maybe six or seven of the top people who did some of the biggest songs of our generation. I kind of take what works with this person. What did I like? Why did I keep wanting to go back with this person? Even if they were sleeping in the studio, even if they were taking a spa or working out with a trainer while I'm in the studio. And I was like, the environment, the space. And I saw what I did was I was like, what is, can you get the most out of Oliver? Oliver's a guy who feels jaded by the music industry, feels chewed up, spit out, treated horribly. People just shooting on him left and right. How do I make this guy fall in love with music again? And there was two things I did. One of them is I got Oliver to go to all the places. Oliver didn't get to go to yet. Or the places Oliver loves going to. Oliver loves brutalist architecture. Okay, let's fly Oliver out to countries just to take pictures on his iPhone of brutalist architecture. So I single handedly probably have the largest collection of brutalist architecture taken on a cell phone. Because I went to like 30 countries just to be able to seek out these buildings, which is the lamest thing in the world. But that's what Oliver loves. So finding what Oliver loves and then me falling in love with photography. Again, I started in photography and I came back to it. Me falling in love with buildings. Me falling in love and get passionate about art. Actually was inter-direction. It was so, it was like one of those things where everything is interconnected. So I was immediately able to see this result of Oliver fell in love with music again. Because I gave Oliver the food Oliver wanted to eat. If Oliver didn't want to work today, Oliver just takes pictures. If Oliver wants to masturbate in the hotel, Oliver is going to do that because that's what we like to do. And that's what's going to get Oliver happy. So Oliver can make the best song. So kind of treating these entities separate has been a way for me to fall in love with music again. And try to make music that's not better. But just feels new and fresh and gets me excited about it again. Because you get so burnt out doing this. Your passion turns into a job. It's no longer your hobby. So I got hobbies again. And then I fell in love with the creation and the passion. And that was directly tied back in different ways. Who is that husband wife couple that's brutalist photographers? I'm not sure. Berlin or something like that. I'll probably wouldn't know the names. I'm not really. You're not in a study now. I'm not into studying it. I'm out of the loop. But it is. It made me like understand that this kind of shit is gorgeous. Yeah. That's not even really brutalist. No, but yeah, I could technically be considered brutalist. But it's like when you pass by on the way to the airport, you see these like warehouses. And you're like, wow, it's like beautiful. Well, the thing is it's a lens thing. So you could. I spent a lot of time in principal cities, capital cities, the places because it made it easier for me to be able to access the airport and be able to keep exploring more places. And they have easier access to hotels and things like this. And so that was something where if you're spending a lot of time in cities, you have to look around and find the beauty in it. And I just fell in love with the concrete jungle. And really fell in love. I have an affinity for Eastern Europe. I've spent a lot of time there. You did. I mean, I've been to all of Europe except for four last countries. So I've been really, really obsessed with Europe. But I think Eastern Europe has kind of stolen my heart. It has for many years. I filmed the video in Ukraine. I've spent time in all of the Eastern portions. You know what I love about Bookerrest? What? Was that architecture? Was you're walking along? And you see like cold war era, like bombed out almost like concrete. Whatever. Then you see this colonial gothic kind of building right next to it. And then you see a glass modern building right next to it. Another bombed out one. And it's all just jumped in together. It was just like, you're walking along. You just see the eras. Yeah. I think also what I saw with brutalism is that I found myself in the buildings. Because I was like, why do I love these buildings so much? What is the deal? And I was like, well, brutalist architecture is a really love or hate type thing. And I think for me as an artist, that's the kind of artist I am. I don't want to be in the middle. It's like, it's better to be on the side of extreme. Because then it makes people feel and that whole love and hate thing is very intertwined. This parts of the brain are right next to each other. So it's like, passion is the mode of not necessarily what the result of it is. So for me, I'm like, okay, I see this jagged thing like my jagged hair cut. I see something that is misunderstood by a lot of people. It's a really either love it or hate it, mostly hate it type thing too. So I felt like I saw myself in these buildings. But I didn't recognize that until later. I was trying to figure out what the hell is the deal here? Why do I have an affinity for such a random thing? That's essentially true because I like it. Why? Yeah. But I think the thing is too is like, as an artist, you know, we see certain things. This is art and this is not art. And you have this high horse. And then maybe you get off of it and you're like, everything's art. And you could go anywhere in between those that range of nothing is art or only this elitist stuff is art. Or, you know, my friend said to me, I'm like, have you been making art? And he's like, no, I've been the way I eat a banana is art. And I was like, bro, that's coming. Oh, shit. You're just not painting. And that friend later passed away. And I was like, rethinking. I was like, you know what? The guy was right. Everything's art. You know, and I think it's really, it will change maybe tomorrow. I'll feel the opposite. But I think recognizing architecture is one of the craziest art forms because it really lasts so long. And it makes such a big impression on the space around it, which is a great thing about China. The architecture is so next level. There's such futuristic and then things that are from the past. There's brutalism there too. Obviously not as much. But in general, it's such a big, big part of the space. So it's like, for me now, the journey of this falling in love with architecture. I'm like, I've got a design of building. I want to be really. Yeah, that's one of my new biggest dreams. What? If you're at the fountain head? No. What is it? It's iron ran, an ran, whatever. Have you said it? I don't know. It's about an architect. And it's really about art. But then she chooses architecture as her art. So it's about music and comedy and everything. Amazing. But it's an architect. And it's like, he just wants to make, get the fuck out of my way. I want to make what I want to make. Yeah. No one will tell me what. If you're in the books at all. I'm not. I haven't read since middle school. I think the last book I read was Scar tissue. Okay. - Was it spark notes? Is what we used to use before chat, GPT? - We had cliff notes. - Yep, there you go. - Here, these couple, burnt and hila becker. - Okay. - And they take pictures like this all the time of just like, they think this is the most beautiful thing in the world. - I think it's crazy. 'Cause you just look at that and you're like, "Oh, that's such an ugly eye sore," but if you shift the lens, then you can find the beauty in these things. - And you know what they say too? They go, "Well, what are they making in there?" - Yeah. - And they go, "We're not concerned with that." - Right. - We don't care what they're doing in there. We just lock the structure. - I seen recently someone turned like a concrete plant into a home. And that's like what I'm interested in too, is like trying to potentially rebuild around something that once existed as a plant or different things. But yeah, I found my, one of my biggest dreams now is to design a home. Start out small, you know, design maybe a few homes and then design some office building, something big scale. But I'm working out, I'm talking with some people about this. - You done with music? - No, music, I'm trying to turn it back into a hobby because I've reached a point where obviously, you know, it's a day job. I'm finding the love and passion about it again and I'm doing a lot of different projects and different things with it. But it's more of like something I'm trying to do for fun and I don't feel the pressure. I don't like, I don't need to do it to make a living anymore. So I'm like, and I have a lot of different jobs and I've separated myself away from like being reliant on it. - And comedy, it's like the job is getting on a plane. 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Now let's get back to the episode. - That's the thing, you have to learn to love it and you have to find out how to maximize on that time, which is like, for example, for me last week, I told you I did like, I went to all these Caribbean islands and I was literally, you know, I would go to a place for two days and then catch a flight the next day and I went to five different islands over the course of 10 days or something like this, maybe 11 days. If the airport doesn't take all day because those are like 45 minute flights, whatever, but I maximize on airport time. Like I work so much, I make so much music on the plane, I edit documentaries on the plane, I do whatever it is that I need to do that day, I write notes, I've written scripts and different things. So like, I find that I am able to maximize, I, oh, airport is not a waste of time, it's just, that's office time now. Work on some stuff that you need to do and when you get to the ocean and you-- - There's no distractions. - Jump in the ocean, now you've worked all day on the plane, you can go jump and enjoy it and not think about it. So trying to separate certain spaces and treating that as part of the office portion and learning to love the lounges and spending time, and if there's no lounges, learning to love how to just put your headphones on and work wherever you are, which every bus ride, every train ride, every airplane ride, every taxi ride to the airport is all utilized, maximized on that time. So it's not like, oh, you're wasting half your life at an airport, it's like, no, I'm working then and I'm able to explore more and not feel guilty about it. - It's this idea that if you're not being productive, you don't do anything, but for like what you, what anybody does you have to think, it's like, downtime is productive. - Right. - Let your brain go phallop for like an hour. - Yeah, and if it means watching some movies or sleeping on the plane. - You're staring at people, just sitting there eating a fucking, you know, whatever. Hamburg or while you just look at people and like, make up stories in your head about them, it's like, this is great. - Yeah. - You're enjoying anything, like I am. - You have to be careful as a comedian though, 'cause you don't wanna be that guy who just makes jokes about airports and hotels. - Exactly, you get to live a life. - As a musician, I don't deal with that same trapping as much, because there's not a lot of airport songs or songs about hotels. - There's gonna be one great song about being on the road. - What is it? On the road again. - No. - No, she'll be coming around the mountain. - Oh, that's interesting. - That's a classic. - That's a classic. - Let's go back to China though. - Okay, back to China. So, let's go. - But I do wanna talk to about travel alone, don't get back to it. - Yeah, I'm so sorry. - Because no one understands it. - We can cut out all that stuff. - No, not cut out anything. - I wish I said this way earlier in the episode, but I'll just talk about food. - Yeah, okay, okay. - Chongqing, so for one, China has probably some of the most crazy food in the world. Probably the most hardcore out of anywhere I've ever been would be in China. The street food, the stuff on the sides of the road is like the craziest stuff. Like, I was just kinda walking through Chongqing and I was like, all right, what's like the most, the things that make me feel like scared a little bit. - Yeah. - And so, this whole travel series I've been making, which I don't think I really mentioned, but over the last six months I've been making this series called the One Man Band Exploring, making music in front of all the wonders of the world. - Is it up or you putting it up? - It's not up. Yeah, it might be, oh, some of it will be up by now. I don't know when this air is or when it goes, but a big part of this was music was a small part of it. It's more about showcasing the world through an idiot-american's lens, so it's very much absurdist, ridiculousness, but the best way to get a taste of the culture is through food. And like, obviously, literally, but the thing is, with China, we're talking about, that's a dangerous rabbit hole to go down. Because China has so much crazy food, so much amazing food, but then there's also stuff that as a westerner is shocking, right? So, for example, like, I started out really low key in Chongqing, I was like, all right, start out with some mealworms and some crickets and some scorpions, and this was just like entry level. 'Cause this stuff is crunchy, it's not crazy. You're just eating, I mean, I'm not sure if you're supposed to eat the end stinger of the scorpion, so I'm not sure on 100% of the etiquette of it, but like, that was like my entry level. All of it was really delicious, easy to eat. Basic stuff, they put a little hot stuff on it. It's just crunchy, salty. You just have to embrace like, you know, what you're eating is not like as crazy as you've made it out to be. The squishy on the inside, like the guts. I think they deep fried or something like that. So this is like entry level, seems crazy, but like, super basic. For my documentary, I wanted to explore the range of it, 'cause sometimes I go to, like, I'm a foodie person, as far as I enjoy cuisine. I love Michelin restaurants, I love hole in the wall spots, anywhere in between, but this is like, you know, this is on this trip, I really went off to the extreme, a lot of eating brains and a lot of eating, you know, like drinking straight cow blood from the neck, you know what I mean? Like, they poured it out with the tribe in Africa, yeah, with the Messiah. That was a different thing. Different things. I'm not going to get into that, I'm not going to speak of other countries. Yeah. Well, you don't come back, buddy. Yeah, but that was crazy. So like, so you, so you connect with people through their cuisine. Yeah. Which is true. You're sitting at a restaurant or one of those, like, the little tables they put out, you know, the little plastic ones. And you're like, I'm next to somebody else who's doing this. So you are connecting. Well, they're mostly delicacies, you know, like eating the, the cow brain in a rock, you have to do it. It's just part of the experience. You don't have to do it, but you should. You go to Egypt, you got to eat the whole stuffed pigeon, eat some camel, you know, like when you're in Peru, which it sounds like you're going, you gotta have like any pig. Like it's delicious. I know. You have the whole body. Yeah, that's what it's like. - It's so good. - And then you do the brain, you brighten through the school. - I did not do that. - Yeah, that's the best part. - But you're there like this and it's so cute. - Yeah, that's great. - Smile and atcha. - But anyway, I love-- - When I eat crazy food, I'm going into a going. I'm either gonna hate it or love it. I'm eating it for the experience. And then half of it sometimes, like, oh, I did it. And sometimes, like, this is delicious. I'm doing my new favorite thing. - Yeah. - Guinea pig is so fucking good. - Yeah, it's so good. - When you're going into this to like make something, create something out of it, are you, like, I'm going to create something out of this while I'm experiencing it? Or do you split the time between, like, I just want to experience and then later I'll talk about or make a song about it or something. - Yeah. As far as like the documentary stuff, like anything that's documented, like, it's usually the first part where we're like, all right, let's get the initial thing, the establishing and then we'll enjoy it or not eat the rest of it if it's, but out pretty much always will eat it all because these things are delicacies. There's a reason people love it. When it's something that's cooked the right way, it is very delicious. No matter what it is, if it's seasoned right and that's the thing, even probably, and-- - Season right, it's gonna be good. - Don't take us out of context, but human meat. - It's gonna be good. - I was looking up-- - At a restaurant though. - Yeah. - Michelin human. - The thing is with human is it's dangerous 'cause you can get a lot of diseases or things, you know? - Same with pig though. You can get diseases. - Right. - You can cook it out. - Right, yeah, that's a good point. - It's not some fucking, I'm not gonna from a street vendor. - Right, right. Well, that's the thing though. There is some things, okay, so this is an off topic thing, but my great grandfather, he was one of the first people who got mad cow disease. And mad cow disease is when a cow eats part of another cow and basically they get infected and then humans eat that cow and then they basically go crazy. So that was what took his life. - What? - So that kind of happens. It's similar to that when people eat other humans. There's like, I don't know if you can cook it out. I think it's actually a separate thing potentially 'cause if you're eating a cow, it's not like you're eating it raw when you get mad cow. I could be wrong on that, but I'm just saying, I think there's some kind of like, there's some diseases that can be caught from it. And I'm not informed, so take it all with a grain of salt. But like-- - I met a guy in Asia somewhere in East Timor and he was, he was talking about monkeys and how they used to eat 'em, but he goes, we don't, now we found out it's kind of bad for you. So we don't do 'em anymore with the wellness. - I believe it. - It's too close. - But he goes, I remember as a kid we ate 'em. - Yeah, I believe it. I would, there's some tribes that are still doing it. - Yeah. - For sure. - I'm curious about it, but yeah, it definitely seems on the cusp of like, all right, now you're getting close to human territory. - Yeah, they're pretty close. - You're like, a couple DNA strands off. - I wanna look at food, I wanna look at back. - Yeah. - How about the toilets? - Toilets in China. - It depends, right? 'Cause they don't have the toilet paper most of the time, but if you're, if you're at like any kind of moral, like a hotel or certain things, you're just bringing toilet paper with you. But it depends, how is it for you? - Mixed between our toilets and holes. - Yeah, you'll have like super nice toilets with I have, you know, the Badez built in at the hotels, if it's a nice hotel, or you'll have something that's just the hole in the ground without any time. - How are you with that? Do you know how to do it? - Of course, bro. - There's no training. - It's just a squatting position, and it's actually better for you. - Yeah, they say that. - It's hard to do those for us. - The problem is, how do you not shit on to your pants? - Bro, you gotta get naked, that's what I do. - You take your pants off. - I get fully in the nude. - What? - I just hope that there's a door on that thing. - Well, dude, that's way better. In Africa, you're just pulling in the bush. If you're standing in the bush, bro, it's just, just taking a shit out there. Maybe you have some leaves, or maybe you bring some to you. - I shouldn't run a canyon two years ago. I had such diarrhea, but I couldn't help it, and I had to go, and then my buddies, I had to get a wipe, I was like, give me your Pepsi. - Wow. - And I just like, I had to go so fucking bad. - And how was that experience? - Not great. - Not great. - Also, there are people passing by. Regular whites. - But you know what, it's part of the human experience. You're gonna have to do it at some point. - Yeah. - Yeah, you should, I think everybody should. - You got it. - It's just that they assume everyone knows how to shit squat, and then when you get there, you're like, - But that's not their problem. - That's not their problem. - That's our problem, and that's where we have to come in and be like, cool, figure it out. So I wanted to talk about the next thing is probably the most interesting. Oh yeah, this was cool. There's people just doing Tai Chi. There was a huge group of them, and actually when it kind of was trying to learn some of the moves, it's super, super good for you. - They let you? - Yeah. I mean. - Do they? - Or are you gonna say? - Do they look at you weird? - Yeah. - You're definitely out from there though. - But I think that there are very much like, there's a reason why some of these people live. I mean, this woman on the left here, she's probably somewhere in her 80s or something like that, and she's doing exercise. There's a reason why a lot of people live a lot longer over there. In America, we're either morbidly obese or in a retirement home by that age. The family unit in Asia too in China specifically is so much stronger. That's why I think there's a lot less of the homelessness issue because people take care of the family, the kids take care of the parents and the grandparents. So there's this kind of situation where the family unit is stronger in America. We prioritize work so much. We, you know, and I know that in China, there's a very priority of work as well. So they deal with that, but I think that the family unit is much stronger there. And there's more of an expectation to take care of the elders. And I think that in America, we've kind of disregarded that. This is the train that goes through the building. - Whoa, what? - Yeah, that's a crazy place. But yeah, everyone-- - It's my buddy, Ralph, he wrote that book, Vagabond's wife, Vagabond, and he said that he tells all these speaking tours and they always ask, like, have you eaten dog when he's at any college? And he goes, yeah, but guys, and they all go, "Oh my God, why have you ever?" And he goes, "But the places that serve dog regularly look down on us at how we treat our elders." They go, "What do you mean you just throw 'em off in some home?" That's crazy. And they look down on us, well, the way we look down on, wow, that's so cool. What's this building? - That's an apartment. That's why it's crazy. - So somebody lives like here? - I, that's what I understand. Take it all with the grain. So, I mean, look at above it. That's the apartment complex. - Oh my God. Yes, that's a deck, that's where you go smoke. - I'm not sure about, like, next door to it. - Yeah, maybe not that one, but still. - It could be. - Jesus. - I'm not, you know, I'm not the guy to ask, but I know that above it at least people are living there. - Oh my God. - It's so cool. It's so cool. - Yeah, it's super next level. - And even though you can't see below it, but there's like crazy street art underneath it. - Oh yeah, how do you find that? That's surprising that China has street art. - They have such crazy street art. In Shanghai too, there's this place called M50 that has such next level street art. And there's like, it's just the art district there. - Yeah. - Have you ever been? - I've been to Shanghai, but I don't remember the art district. So this place, M50, it's like a bunch of art galleries. And that was the first place I've seen moving paintings, where the paintings, they have like paintings, and then inside of them are LED screens, and they're like moving around, sometimes they're moving off the painting, but like creating a immersive art like this. But that was for me. You could see, yeah, if you just type in images, you'll just see street art there. But there's like tons of galleries. I don't think they show. - The movie paintings? - Probably not. I mean, I'm assuming that you have to go into the museum to see that, but they have really kind of more, things I have never seen in the West before. - Like what? - Just like a moving painting, whatever, these kinds of-- - What a moving painting, what does that mean? - You could probably type it in, you know what I'm saying. Like it's using paintings with LED screens so that the paintings are moving images, and sometimes like, yeah, above the painting on the out, like there's like characters walking on top of the frame of it, or jumping off across it. - I don't know, you might not be able to find it. - Okay, whatever it's fine. - That's cool. Do you get inspired by art from another place? - I do, I want to do art gallery, and I would love to do that mixing video collage mixed with paintings, mixed with different things. So-- - You should notice this at your show, Webster. The openers, I don't remember their names, both cool. But it was like, oh, there's so many visualizers now in music, and where I grew up in music, it was just like guitar and bass, and you know, maybe drums, and then like, that's it. And now it's like, yeah, use all of it. - Yeah, the last tour that I did was-- - I mean, you're doing full like plays. - Yeah, the last tour that I did was a mixture of a movie, a TV show, a concert, a play, WWE Wrestling Scooter stunts. Like it was just so, and it didn't make any sense. It broke even, which if you spend a year of your life touring that around the world, and dedicating a year of your life instead of doing other things, you're just losing money at that point. So, the business model didn't make sense for it, especially at the scale that I was touring at, but it was such a beautiful thing. And for me, that was a gift to the fans, whether they recognized that or not, they still had to pay their harder money, but I considered it a freaking charity show at that point, 'cause you're just losing money to be able to put on the show you want. So, for me, it's like 360 entertainment. That's, the job is to be a entertainer, who cares about music and art and these things. Obviously, that's the substance, that's the centerpiece, but it's about being a showman. - Yeah, John was kind of fuck with everything. When you're like, is it this, is that, like-- - I think genres are-- - Sit back. - Are dying more and more, like comedy and film to me is a relatively dead genre in this current state. That's why I was cool to be in that movie that I mentioned that try back up because it is a straight up comedy. It has Jay and Silent Bob. People I grew up with, Bobby Lee's ugly asses, even in it. - He's so ugly. - He literally gets uglier by the minute. - It's crazy, I see. - He's involved in this more e-walky thing. It's like-- - He is just, it's grotesque. - It's reach the point of like-- - It's grotesque. - That's the term I would use. - Yeah, in like that brutalist architecture, but like, what about brutalist human? - Bro, it's way beyond brutalist. Because that even is subjective. Some people can find beauty in that with Bobby Lee, there's just-- - There's no beauty. - There's no, there's no one that could find that attractive. - You know Lord of the Rings? - Right. - Sauron, what do you think? He represents, that's Bobby's face. - I always think it's Schmiegel. I get more of like a Schmiegel kind of vibe. He's kind of like this little guy. - The little guy. - The essence of Sauron is his face now. But you have Schmiegel. - Well, what's the guy from Harry Potter? Voldemort. - Voldemort, yeah. - That's kind of like, it's like a mixture of Schmiegel and Voldemort wrapped up in a ball sack. - How has he not been killed just out of like, ugh. - Dude, I fought Bobby Lee so many fucking times. I honestly, he's not about fighter for that little of a guy. He's so small, dude. - I punched him and kicked him in the face. - I fought him in career town and this grandma was freaking out. It was like, we were just out in the street and I see him and then he took my beanie. Right, I took his beanie. I can't remember how it went down, but he got to ask with him that day. - Good. - He's so fun to punch. - I mean, I don't encourage violence in any capacity, but Bobby's, he's just, he's a negative specimen. It's just bad vibes. - And Andrew Santino is such a cool dude, so he runs it in, good, good on Andrew for dealing with it. - He's the only way that show works, you know. - Good on him for dealing with it. - Yeah. - If I were Andrew and I would have killed myself long ago. - You have to trim the fat and at some point, Andrew's gonna have to make that decision. - Trim the fat. - Yeah, he's gonna, okay, I didn't mean it that way, but you bring up a good point. - Yeah, he's also fat. - No, no, no, he's, he's been slimming down, I think. - Bobby? - Are we talking about the same Bobby? - Bobby Lee. - Yeah. - He's been slimming down. - He talked to him for a while. We kind of had a falling out after our last fight. - Did you really? - Yeah. - We'll have to cut all this stuff out. We can't put this in. - I'm friends with Bobby, but I've also punched him with a face. - No, I'm friends with him too. - I love Bobby. - I love Bobby. I just love, I love the beat. - He gets it out of here. He makes it so like fucking mighty crazy. - Yeah, the last time I did the, his podcast, it was like, I was like, let's just keep it nice and isn't that. And then of course, he just pokes it. - Within 20 minutes. - He wants the fight and then all his fans hate me, which is, and he's like, I wasn't trying to find it, like nice to work. Yes, you were. - He knew exactly what he was doing. - You know what you're doing. You're a dumb fuck, but you're not dumb. - Waving the peace signs, and this guy came out in full battle mode. - Yeah, classic. - That's, that's. - That's a classic Chongqing. - Chongqing also. - Yeah. - Well, that's pretty cool. - He's got a lot of LED, a lot of light up, crazy stuff there. - What I thought was cool too is that they, wow. Does it smell different here? - Smells are insane, bro. Just smells you never smelled before. - Yeah. - But it's a very clean place, so you're getting like, you're not getting like, for example, in New York, like the human feces smell. And I love New York, but it has got some really gnarly moments where you walk down, and you're like, you see the human poo. - And then you're like trying to walk past like, why am I still smelling it? It's been half a block already. I shouldn't be past this. - But then you notice it's on your shoe perhaps. - Yeah. - Separate thing, that's what I'm into. - But yeah, I think for me, that one was like the standout. I think it's the problem. - You told you about Chongqing. - Bro, you never been on the internet? It's like, it's a meme at this point. It's literally a meme. Like, that's why I recreated the video. You haven't seen that video. You see the one I remade? - No. - You could go on my thing, but it's basically like, it shows the extent of-- - Instagram? - No. - Yeah, it's on Instagram. I mean, I'm sure it's probably on my TikTok too. - TikTok. - I'm not on there on purpose. I'll be dead. - You're not filming TikTok dances? How old are you? - I'm 17. - Okay, you're a perfect age. - All right, lay it in. Show it to me later. Fuck. Damn, such a terrible producer. At least I'm not popular. - This is why you usually get at least one guy to help you. - Yeah, all right. There's negative and positive. - There's negative and positive. - So, okay, here's what I want to talk for a second about. And let's go to other places in China. This is so fun. It's making me want to go. No, I've never heard of Chongqing, to be honest, which is why. - Really? - Yeah, maybe it's too deep in, and maybe it just wasn't on my tours. - Well, it's kind of a newer development that people, it's becoming like a-- It's, people don't actually go there 'cause it's a mission to get there, I think. - Yeah, yeah, that helps. - Even, I don't know a lot of my friends that even have gone to China. Maybe if it was a work related thing, but like, I don't know people that are like, we gotta go there. - People really go like, I don't wanna go to China. And I'm like, what, it's to me, the word foreign is most evident in this country. - Yeah. - Like the, like, it's all different. Whatever that meaning of that word is. Tell them about traveling alone, the joy of it. - Yeah, for me? - 'Cause I love it, and every time we have a friend or a chick, and they're just like, what do you mean you're going alone? I'm like, it's better. - Yeah, for one, it's a lot cheaper. - Oh, yeah. - If you have to buy someone else's flight, or, you know, like, in general, I find that, in this instance, why it was cheaper is because I'm not bringing engineer different things. Sometimes I would meet with my engineer to work on trying to get a couple of things dialed in on the mixes, 'cause my engineer, Jacob, he mixes my music with me. - Okay. - And so, I would meet up with him, and from time to time, but it was just like, okay, if I'm recording a major label album in hotel rooms, this is the cheapest way to do it. I'll engineer myself to get the vocals recorded, the different things I need. So, it was really about saving money and maximizing how much I can use of my budget to be able to explore the world. So, for me, I was being really methodical about how to put the money instead of renting that studio, or bringing a big team with me. I was like, all right, let's just slim it down to the basics. Let me see what I can do with just, I'm always asking people in the room, like, what do you think of that? Do you like this? It's like, what do I want? What do I like? So, that was kind of the real reason of not wanting people around me was to get, to be able to spend time. - It's not crazy, two people go, like, it's too expensive to travel and you're like, no, I'm saving money, travel. - The real trick is to basically be a con artist and figure out different companies to work for that will cover the costs. So, this year I figured out different ways to be able to get a work for different companies. I directed a bank commercial and these different things and they'll cover the flight from Antarctica to Spain and Spain to Australia. So, I try to get the big flights at least covered by, I think, basically 90% of my travel, 95% of it, somewhere in that ballpark is covered by other companies. So, I work for the cookie company in Indonesia. I get a flight over there, fly back this way, then, you know, maybe I play a show and that helps cover some of the costs of it. So, I try to figure out ways to offset it. There's a way to methodically, if you want to and the whole term, what is the one they use? It's the digital nomad, super corny. Feel like, for me, I just want to, like, vomit when I hear that term, but ultimately, it's a really special lifestyle. If you can figure out a way to work and be creative through your phone, through your computer. - It's called nomad. - Yeah. - The digital nomad implies you're just building websites. - Right, and I am doing that on the side. I just started my website business. If anybody needs a website, Bill, I am your man. But yeah, basically, you know, this idea of being able to work abroad is such a beautiful thing and not be tied down and it's not like, it's not specific. - There's times where I have to play a show in Kazakhstan. There's times where I have to play a show. - You played a show in Kazakhstan. - Yeah, I played a festival out there, actually. - It's the cool thing in County. Probably do it there for festivals. They fly you out somewhere for a festival and you go, "Hey, instead of flying me "wrap back the next day, can you fly me back in a week?" And they go, "We don't give a fuck." And then you stay and have fun. - So you guys have your flights built into the shows? - Yeah, places like that. - For me, that's not part of it. It's just like, this is all in. And so I just make sure that I build time on the insider outside of a tour. If I'm doing like back to back to back. Or I just do one-off shows and then build trips around it. So I'm like, "Okay, cool. "I'm here. "Let's hit his back to stand. "Let's do a run. "Let's hit that one I went to Tajikistan after." - You did. I just got back from there. - Yeah, I loved it. Where did he go? - She went to, just like all over the border of there in Afghanistan. - Yeah. - Like look over the river. There's no like, you can go and she's like the people go. She was like, "No, who's gonna break into Afghanistan?" - Yeah. - No, but she's the, the show of pictures. Like the- - It's a beautiful place. - The island ranges out there crazy. Yeah. It's basically, yeah, the exact ones you see in Afghanistan, the other side of it, but it's exactly like, so, so fucking beautiful to see that scale. And it looks like what you've seen in National Geographic or something like that. I wanna shout out Hong Kong is one of the dopest cities in the world. Have you been? - Yeah, and yeah. - Fucking crazy. - They are wild there. - It's such a futuristic, almost dystopian version because it's like built in the '80s, but the blade around her vibes are so strong. The buildings, the architecture. It is also such a futuristic, advanced LED screens. Like, have you ever written across that boat on the river to the other side? Where it's like 360, you just see like the way that- - Yeah, we took a junk boat. The comments all had a junk boat. - Yeah. - And we were just there eating Thai food and jumping off the- - Thai food in Hong Kong, dude. - I don't know. - Where is your fucking major malfunction? - I didn't do it. - So I have a rule when I travel. Whenever I go a place, and this is just like, the strict rule of it is wherever I'm traveling, I only eat that type of food. And if someone is like, let's say a local takes me and is like, you have to try our hamburger, or you know, let's say you're in Japan, you've been there for a month and you're like, all right, I've eaten sushi every single meal or all these different types of Japanese cuisine. You could try out like the Japanese version of pizza, 'cause they make crazy pizza or the Japanese burger, like the Wagyu burger, but like, my rule is like, I would never order a hamburger anywhere in the world. And that's almost like, you have to try this specific thing. So you have a strict rule. - I like that. - So you wouldn't catch me eating Thai food in Hong Kong. That's a no-no. - But what did you just starve? Because they ordered a bunch of Thai food from everybody. - Bro, figure it out. - I am on a boat. What the fuck are you gonna do? - Bro, the boat ride, how long is this bird ride? What, you're out at sea? - Four hours. - You're a seaman now, you're living out at sea for- - You bring the dude with you. - You gotta bring stuff. You saw Napoleon, he puts the- - The tots. - The tots in the pocket. This is kind of a similar method I use where I'll bring snacks at all times. - I gotta think, it's traditional food versus authentic food. - Okay, so what does it mean? - So traditional is like, this is what they ate here forever. Authentic is like, what are they eating now? - Right. - What are the people actually eating? - Everyone's eating everywhere now, so the. - But I'm saying, in Australia, they all eat fucking meat pies from 7-Eleven. So that's authentic, that's what they're doing here. - But that's a meat pie thing, that's as Australian as it gets, man. - Fair. - I mean, that's like all they have there. No, the kangaroo is good there, have you had the kangaroo? - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, it's just a steak, you know. Also, by the way, I do not endorse eating animals, especially exotics, but there is an overpopulation. - It's not exactly. - Okay, kangaroos there. - They're pests. - They're definitely not exotic, but I'm saying, there's an overpopulation that it's killing the actual environment, so they have to take out a certain number of them, so that's where the thing is. - You know the ones you eat aren't, they're just bread and farms, meat farms. - Okay, I don't. - We're cutting this out. (laughing) - So I was in Austria, and my friend goes, "Hey, we're all going to New Burrito place." And we're like, "Wait, same thing, Burrito, "we should get Spetzel or something." And she goes, "No, it's a cool new spot to eat at, "and we're all gonna go there." - Yeah, but locals don't you, we gotta go here, you go. - Okay. - But I'm saying, like, you know, by theory, you're not gonna catch me eating Thai food in Hong Kong. (laughing) - But I'm not being a hater or a purist, bro. I have diarrhea at least once a month, so I'm not saying that this is the way to do things. - That's how you're something. - And sometimes I work with other people, I'll travel with friends, and they're like, "I don't know if I love you or hate you, "but this is just annoying." But I'm like, "Bro, you can eat your salmon, bagel, "and Tajikistan, but I'm setting my heart, no, I'm gonna wait." - You're getting snake. - We're gonna have the cow tail with the bones in it, with the joints still connected in. - I'm with you halfway. I was yelling everybody in somewhere with Thailand once they went to McDonald's. Like, guys, no, no. - McDonald's is a different thing. - They know, dude, people have pride about their McDonald's. You ever go to a country and they're like, "You gotta try or McDonald's is the best." That's like a thing I've seen so many times, and then the different, I don't eat McDonald's, but I'm saying, people have, you know, you go to the one in France and they have like, the pen of Shoko Lots and the different things, or they have like, shrimp and some, you know. - Poutine in fucking Canada, McDonald's, or like, or like, brown sticky rice and wherever. - In Japan, too, they have the black burger sometimes. - Really? - Yeah, so different places have the different. - So that is different. - So, that's maybe a reason to try it, but I still would be like, unless it was a last resort, you know? But yeah, this is just some random architecture. I just love the fucking buildings there. Hong Kong has some of the dopest architecture. And that's not brutalism for my taste. - Also, these red taxis are just everywhere. That's not a good picture, but I was just like, if you've ever gone to Hong Kong, it's just like endless amounts of these red taxis. - You're a good photographer. - Thank you, man. - Okay, guess how many photos I have taken over this last year and two months. - Seven. (laughing) - No, make your honest guess of how many photos. - Then you take it over this over a year? - Just a year and two months. - A year and two months, I mean, let's just say. - From the beginning of the process of making this book, the book I've been making. - It's a 50 a day times 365, that's 5,500, 15,000. - Oh shit. - Normally, I wouldn't waste the time to pull it, but you gotta believe it, 'cause I'm not. So, this is a new phone with just new stuff on it. This is not-- - 'Cause you have dirty, some of these buildings aren't. So clean some of them are. - I know, I love that, though. The grittiness is one of the special things about the architecture in Hong Kong. So check this out. How many items are on this phone? - This is just the new phone, just for photos. (laughing) - 105,838. This is your new phone. - This is a phone from when I started this process. Only rule is that every picture has to be taken on the iPhone. Don't look through too much. - No, I'm not, but like, what's this? Where's that? - That's just down in the corner. I'm always taking pictures of buildings, yeah. I just love buildings, but I don't think anyone else actually cares about it, like I do, but. - I switched dick pics. - Bro, get off the screen, what are you doing? I said, look at the number, not look through the fucking picture. - Oh my God, trust me, I need to. You look at it and go post on it from your accounts. What'd you get into in Hong Kong? Do you fuck out there? - Bro, I'm a married man. You can't be asking these folks. - I didn't know if you were married. - I've been married for six years. - Oh wow. - I have two sons and a daughter. - No way, what? - Bro, my kids are gonna see this. - Well, they don't know you fucked ever? They know you fucked for six times. - Bro, they don't even know the idea of the birds and the bees. They think it's fucking stork still, dude. Bro, stop. - Why, they didn't know, this is how it works. - Bro, my kids can't watch this. That's supposed to be a family fucking show. You're actually a pervert. - Hey kids, look, so this is normal right, but when you hit like later high school? - Bro, do not put this in the episode. - And then should we like, don't, don't. - Let's go back to the monster building in Hong Kong. - If you go slow. - Let's go back to the monster building. - I like it, but it hurts. - Bro, please stop, dude. - It hurts. - My wife is gonna see this. - Go slow, but don't stop. Bro, please stop. - Oliver, please stop. - Don't stop. - This is worse than spending time with Bobby Lee. You're turning into, I'm seeing how you and Bobby are friends. Now it's all starting to add up. So look at this building here. This is the monster apartment. It's just staggering to see some apartment complexes that have like, and this is not that one, but some of them have, you know, 15, 20,000 people living in one apartment complex. - 15, what? - You could type it in. Type in like biggest apartment in China. You could say, for example. - Might be 20,000? - 20,000, over 20,000 people. 39th story, S shape building. - Maybe find a better picture of it, but this is like, this is what I'm saying. There's an international apartment building. - Wow, what in Hangzhou, I've been there. I made out with a chick there. - Okay, bro, stop fucking flexing. - Bro, wow, look at this. What? Come on, come on. - This is insane. - That's only a small portion of it, too. - Wow, come on. Reddit, I've never heard of this site. - Oh, dude. You got it. - Should I get into it? - Bro. - Is Reddit cool? - It's so fucking crazy. You never heard of Reddit? - Reddit? - Bro, it's action. - Is it not, just spread things? - Like, no, bro, anything, bro. Monster buildings, dude. Look at that, dude. Look at the size of that thing. I mean, that is-- - Jesus. And look, everyone's got their dick. Like, that's a nice apartment, other than it's a billion people in there. 20,000 people. - Bro, you think they know their neighbors? - No way. Can they even-- - How many neighbors could you possibly know? But, dude, it must be a fucking party in there. - But also, when they walk down to the elevator, do they go like, wait, who's who? - I wonder what the, like, protocol is with that. - Yeah, hold it, like, no, we're not holding it. Otherwise, it's too, we're gonna be here all day. - You've never seen this, though? - No. - You gotta be kidding me, dude. Everybody's seen this. That's a classic. - That's a thousand people. - That's a classic, man. - God, it's all bent. What does that feel like, the wind? - Maximizing human size. - Ooh, look at that. It's like-- - Bro, you need to get a better computer setup, bro. That is such a grainy picture. - I know, I gotta open it up, Paul. By the way, I wanna say I'm super impressed that you run this thing by yourself. Even though this place is basically like a hoarder's den, dude. - Oh yeah, it is. - It's legendary, though. This guy runs, for those of you who don't know, this dude is a one-man show. He runs this whole show by himself, which is actually insane. What are you putting on, dude? - I just looked up buildings in China. - All right. All right, bro, that is so bad. - You're gonna put that in the episode? - No. - My daughter is gonna see that. (laughing) - I mean, who's gonna teach her about the birds in the bugs? - Not you, dude, not some pervy old man. - How dare you? Well, then who's gonna teach her? You need a pervy old man to teach about boxes. - I'm gonna do it one the time, right? You have to wait. - It's a wait. - All right, let's get off this. - You're too deep, man. You've gone too deep. Other thing I wanna say is, from Hong Kong, there is a really amazing film director. - Oh, yeah? - Top five favorite film director. This guy is named. - Look at this. - Yeah. - It's crazy. - That's one of my picks, by the way. Look at the quality. - It's crazy. - Yeah, the quality's better. So it's not my computer. Wow, and here's the cool thing. So in this window, I mean, it's nuts, the, what we can see now in pictures. That window, that's someone's life. - Yeah. - Someone lives in there and has a life. - Each one of those windows is a story, bro. - And then you get out like that and there's a billion fucking stories. - It's fucking crazy. - Are you familiar with the director, Steven Chao? - Face off? - He did Kung Fu Hustle, Shaolin Soccer. Have you seen any of these? They're so fucking nice. - Kung Fu Hustle, yeah, was funny. - Yeah, funny movie. It's like live action animation, almost. Like it's exaggerated to like- - Is that why he's fighting her cow? Like it's the thing next to him? - No, bro, come on, bro. - There was one race fighting their cow. It's not Bill Odenkirk. Kung Fu Hustle. - I know which one is that. That's Enter the Fist. - Yeah, something like that. - Type in Kung Fu Hustle. - Oh wait, Kung Fu Hustle, that's a cartoon. - No, it's a live action. - Oh, Kung Fu Panda is what I was thinking. - Bro, what? Jack Black, dude. You've never seen this movie? - No. - This is legendary. Bro one of the most epic who's this chick she's the landlord did the landlady You have to watch it though. I put it on your watch list. This is a really good movie super fucking funny crazy It's fight scene such big scale production, but I want to say yes 20 years old bro still stands up so high today wow But you never saw Shiland soccer No, bro, where have you been dude? You've never seen Shiland soccer. No, bro. Where are you at? What do you watch other movies? What do you watch everything everywhere all at once what movies where you're in them? I'm presenting your friends movies. No, I never watch anything of my friends in them They all do terrible movies probably these literally never done a single thing of quality He's the biggest film our star. I know all he does is reboots a fucking sex in the city and other garbage shit I'm trying to think he did the he was in the dictator Was he really yeah, that was his biggest role. I think of his life. He was in What's that stoner movie with the Asian guy and the white guy that's like Indian guy? Oh Harold and Kumar. Yeah, he was in that was he yeah crazy. Maybe that was a good stuff. Yeah, Bobby's a legend shout out Bobby if you're watching this We fucking love you Kind of no, no, we do he's easy to make fun of cuz you do love him dude. No, it's just a huge. Shiland soccer. Yeah, what is it? There's karate kick Bro, you never seen it. No, bro, you got it right It's it's a legendary film. It's just crazy. I mean start with Kung Fu hustle see if you like that I will but it's so fucking funny so funny, but like amazing ridiculous sense of humor tied with like crazy A big budget like craziness big fucking budget massive budget did big scale But it's crazy like the amount of like cinema whoa That was cool. What like just insane level shit This is like air but yeah, different. No, I'm cracked this shit is on another level, but he's also after me That's so funny like that's him in the movie. He's a director actor Type type in That guy's with the egg knocking it around But the imagination like the creativity and then like how well executed it is and this is like this movie might be like 30 years old now 26 2006 doesn't want doesn't one so 2025, but you know, then it's made years before that, you know how long is it take to get a movie made especially with this much VFX Wow go type in Kung Fu hustle cuz I think you would actually I think you I didn't do it That's like one of my top five favorite movies ever That's what and then there's all kinds of crazy. I don't know if this will Let me know no, no, it's not showing the sense of was that even the trailer. I don't even know what that was So an official classic the old 824 Yeah, I don't know. It's a musical No, there's a little there's only at the beginning. There's like a little music component That's not showing it, but that shit. Oh, it's probably the one underneath right. It's one so trailer. Yeah, but I just saw that one It's the same one. Yeah, I'm gonna. All right, whatever you have to watch you take my word for it But it's it's fucking hilarious Okay, Steven Chao Where movies do you want I mean this this is my Wow, cool And that's the bitch landlord. She's a legend. Did you watch any movies in China? Like no, but I didn't watch any movies. I don't really watch movies anymore. Honestly I kind of fallen off. I mean yeah, what do you mean where have I been you last movie watch was in 2001? You talking about what do you just look at this right here? Look at this little kid right here They just got some crazy shit that goes on but yeah, anyways, you don't have to watch any more of it But you get that sense of oh this right here, bro. I actually watched that Did they cut it out was that Give us a crouching tiger hidden dragon bro. I saw that with I saw that with Bobby Lee in a theater in really in That's a great movie Anyways, you I don't want to give away too much. Okay, okay. I did this. Yeah, I'm watching it. It's very much a comedy. I'm watching it but I think it's hard to Show all of it that I want to give it away, you know how these yeah, yeah, oh, yeah Well, it's better when they do give it away. It sucks when they give it away right right right Okay, so one restaurant I went to I got to find the name of this shot. Look it up or not in Hong Kong you can in Hong Kong Bro, I went to this Michelin star. Don't even say the name. I don't like saying names places. I don't want to ruin it I won't say the name okay, but I think it was at least a two star Michelin spot. It's called Bobby Lee's Bro, you can't be tying that into this episode. We're gonna have to cut out all the Bobby Lee stuff Why cuz no one will watch if he mentions dumb fucking out of the name obviously if we put him in it No one's gonna they're gonna click out. Yeah And you better not click bit anybody there. He's over said So let me just say this this restaurant was so phenomenal man. It was literally Show like a different version of the food obviously. I showed some of the More hard course stuff, but this was like such a fine Just such a crazy fine dining experience where it's like Underneath your table you have like a drawer and you pull it and you have like eight different forks That are used for each of the different eight courses, but there's like nine or 10 one of the courses was literally baby food That was mixed with like crab and lobster and all this stuff. There was in a actual baby bottle and they give you an actual baby Spoon and they have their own like custom art piece like the level of art that went into this cuisine was so elaborate like Bruce Lee is from there from Hong Kong and they're like, you know, he's the legend of course Bruce Lee and he has this Yellow in black suit, which you probably have seen from kill Bill if you for those you at home who don't know it but there was this one dish that like it was about Bruce Lee and had all this origin and it was a it was tied to this was a game of death. We're at least first where that I'm not sure what the name of that one is yeah, yeah, iconic film. Yeah So you eat this fucking dish and then like it has this I want to say it was like a slug made out that was yellow and black And it's on this yellow and black page and as you eat it it goes away and eventually you see Bruce Lee is in the plate underneath it But like just like so much care and thought and like if you had like a fish dish It was like shaped like an actual fish like this crazy bone thing and you're eating awful But I just never seen the level of art that went into the presentation and I think that The presentation that people do in in certain parts of China is such a high level. It's so impressive to see it's like, you know In in Japan how people you see the the level of just Super perfectionist and you see that there and I want to say too If you bend to those underground markets in Shanghai No, where you like have all the recreations of All of the like designer the like fake handbags. Yeah. Have you been to those? Yeah, I think I went to one So they may be not they're really like it's a quite an experience. They're massive There I think a lot of them went away during covid. Yeah, because a lot of that move to online retail when like everything See moved shut down with covid. It was pretty hardcore. Yeah, uh, so If you go into one of those things, it's quite a unique experience now This isn't the case for everyone, but a lot of people they might feel even disrespected if you don't offer to bargain with them So there's this whole bargaining that goes back and forth where you really and you know You have to be prepared to walk and then they might chase after you and it's this whole method. What do you have any go to's? Um, I don't know man. I am anti-shopping so I'm like not the guy to ask but there was a period where I liked I like the idea It's fun to bargain, but I what are you getting at? What say it? What say it? I'm not following. Oh, are you not? Saying I have something on my face. I'm not saying that at all. Okay. What are you saying? I'm saying you live in New York I don't live in New York you're from here. I'm not from here. I lived here. I never lived here Wait, did I say that in the show you did you did? Yeah, I did live here A brief stint. Yeah, I was about one week two week period But anyways super crazy. So you go in these markets and it's like and the stuff and you'll be like I want the the Gucci socks or certain these certain name brands and they'll be like, oh, we don't have it. I'm like, okay You sure and then like maybe they have a secret drawer. They pull out where there's like all this stuff that you know Maybe it's the Yeezies or certain things whatever was popping this was like way before COVID when I went and had this experience I tried to find them when I went back this last trip but a lot of them had shut down It's got me new place, but there was like a crazy thing where if you want like the more expensive stuff Let's say the suitcases. Yeah Because they can't have all this stuff out there like there is Gucci that exists in the country and there's legit stores So they do have reps that like checks that they kind of Make it more covert, but like then if they find out okay, you want the bag then they're like kind of suss it out And then they'll potentially take you to a back room So like something where it opens up door slide open you get brought into the back and it's like all this stuff and Basically it's presented to you like this is real Gucci and you're like come on this is not like it's real it's real and so there's this whole back and forth but I want to try to find this picture I have bought like what would have essentially been I want to say like $30,000 worth of you know if this stuff was legit high-fashion stuff or whatever it was it would have been like $30,000 or $20,000 but instead I probably paid like $200, $300 and for me that made me really love the idea of like you know I like the idea of what they represent the whole idea of spending your hard-earned money to waste on buying something with the name brand is so lame so lame so no this is my manager sure he threw it out because there was holes in it so I literally I'm just this is just like a a freebie godidas I do not yeah and my wife bought me the pants and the shoes so I'm really like I'm up bro I'm so I like if I can get this close with your friends that your kids not seeing yeah okay I will say this my kids will get nothing of my finances or anything I'm I've set up a foundation doctor all of her trees art grants for baby geniuses this sounds ridiculous but this is a real thing our guess or baby Jesus is geniuses baby geniuses so the whole idea is when I die everything I own that's not art will be sold off and put into my accounts but I I don't live anywhere and I don't have a home so I have really little things that actually own so this is even later it's set up my whole will and everything has been set up so that anything I own that is an art piece is sold off and put into their accounts and all of it is to be given away to artists and it's not to be given away for school grants it's not to be given away to buy equipment it's to physically make things I don't believe in buying equipment because I've bought people equipment and then they just play video games and the shit collects dust and they sell it later to probably buy a video game I don't believe in school I think that it's broken system I think the best way to learn is to physically get your hands dirty you can rent equipment to make something with but I have this like kind of strong beliefs on these things so for me my kids my kids are not gonna be given the idea of oh yeah my dad made some money I'm gonna make that money's mine I'm good like no figure it out little baba like you're done so my I have a strict strict rules with this so no one in my life thinks they're gonna get anything my parents my brother sorry guys every kid is born rich sucks seriously they pretty much every well there's cool I've got some cool there's like eight no there's like eight cool ones the thing is it's just in general it's hard to like grow up and then not have those ambitions and not want to do something really special so I will say theoretically speaking uh you have to be raised with the idea of this and I think also that makes me you know in my mind everything I make from my money for my art isn't for me anyways is all to give back to the artist so it's like a it's a way for the art gods to look out for you too it's like all right take care of me so we can make sure this money goes to the people and actually makes it you know because I'm not religious man I believe in the art gods the film gods the music gods whatever you know I do every time I move town so I'm gonna left L.A. I left New York once what do you do I I the stuff I'm gonna keep with me and take with me to the next place you know like my vinyls or whatever it's like a take oh so you're a vinyl guy I do like it lately last few years right but like but anything else I'm like young comics come get whatever you want really even you forks wow I've played anything books but how do you like categorize someone what's in between like a dumb guy like me who makes one dumb joke and then someone is a comic what where do you draw the line and how do you know to let them into your house like you have to vet them there's someone you like you're supporting what's the process of well if you really want to come and get something free it's like well and you deserve it but like that would be fun to be like you're not a comic you only want up once this month beat it you can't have anything what counts as a comic you have to be doing live standards stand up comic okay so you're only giving it away to people who are scraping by you can't have shit okay could I come by and potentially take some free t-shirts like this now you could look you could look at other but what if you what if maybe someone else considered me a comic who's that person they're out to now okay my daughter she just fucked up no but for example how do you let these people in your life how do you you put out a thing yeah I'll put up notes at comedy clubs and black hay on Tuesday the 17th I'm having a fucking giveaway okay cool and what kind of what's the coolest thing you've given away well I remember one time when I was doing our life someone's a kind of this fork and I was like do you not have a fork is it so broke when they start how he goes I have one fork but I'd like to have a second fork is there anything that you remember of being like I don't want to give that one away but this one I gave away a couch that was given to me they owner of the comedy store she's dead now but she sure and probably sure as mom probably sure as mom and some kids are like did you fuck on this I go 100% I fucked on it and then they later saw me go hey we fuck on that too and I was like the lineage goes on so was that a nice couch it was pretty nice wasn't that comfortable though but good to fuck on sometimes the the nice stuff isn't as comfortable yeah even you think it's gonna break in eventually there's a reason you got that thing for free they knew it wasn't a comfy couch you want to pick it up then getting out of here wow look at that picture man you gotta look camera yeah that's the imperial palace whatever yeah it's a beautiful place I love that the palace is next super next level so I had is this Tiananmen Square I believe it is yeah I'm not good with names but so I had bad diarrhea in here and this is the first place I could not avoid a shit squat toilet I had to run in and I was like the toilet's under a pair I guess there's no toilet and then the next one's like oh toilet and then it's like this is what they met and it's so hot you're sweating and the smell of like 20 different people's poop poop in that trash can poop toilet paper yeah and it's just like but they had TP no yeah you had to bring your own I think the most crazy thing for me yeah in China and this is the cliche shit and I should have actually started with something like this because it's somewhat more interesting but obviously it's been done to death yeah the great wall of China I want to talk about that so when I go to Beijing what was that thing called waterbugs bro this is a real hoarder den bro oh my god it don't kill it you can't kill anything you have to let it live here and nest I wish you guys could see the real set we should pull one of these cameras and show this bro he doesn't even wipe it up this guy is on a whole other level man keep it there so I imagine this is similar to what your house looks like I saw that other room over there yeah it looked like someone had a hoarder had been living there for so is this how your life is everywhere I just here yeah I'm a mess if I keep it ball barely it together I need anxiety at all times this is why it's better to not live anywhere for guys that are messy like us that's right very messy but you know you just live there for a week and then it's like okay the the whirlwind the fuck was that thing bro that was probably one of the earliest bug I've ever seen I've seen some gnarly what I've never seen anything like that it looked like you eat that if they served it I would I was just thinking that it looked good brother juicy that's there is between a normal bug and then something that's gonna have a little bite to it a little kick put a little pepper on that a little pepper yeah a fictional ride up what what do you think that was the for real that was actually I don't know it was like a centipede who's so fat just imagine what else is in here dude what's lurking around here I've never seen I've lived in New York for 12 years I've never seen that I haven't seen a bug like that either he had like a thousand legs but it wasn't a centipede no maybe I don't know it could have been it looked like kind of like a mealworm which is working it's evolving in here you probably could have some evolution going in there I mean there's toxins with the paint and different things that could play a factor so I wanted to talk about the Great Wall so also a lot of people know about this you know you've have you heard of it the Great Wall of shining yeah all walls are great this one is especially great 2000 years to create this thing yeah people say you can see it from space to create it yeah from start to finish god damn how long was the rain for yeah sure bro I couldn't give you numbers on that but the craziest shit about it and everyone knows this but like while people were building it and dying they would just throw people's body into the wall they call it the death wall certain parts of it in it so it's just like there's it's it's a burial for certain people as well so the wall is like it's there's human remains throughout it there's parts I went to the part that had the most bone density which is referred to as the death wall really portion of it yet but there's a lot of different parts of China that have the Great Wall I mean it spans I think something like and I could be totally wrong here but it's I want to say 6000 is there are there like miles I don't know right along it oh you can actually walk on parts of it and they shut down parts of it as well but have you been to it yeah what part did you go do you know I don't know that it was a it was a taxi ride from Beijing yeah took however long it went to kind of parts I this one I went to a couple times it's nice because there's less tourists yeah I don't want to blow it up so I'm not going to say the name of it because then everyone's gonna go yeah I went far enough that's that's my portion of the Great Wall so like that's where me and my crew I went to where started to be dilapidated right was like kind of unfixed and like this is cooler now yeah you can see like that's a legit that's not fixed up anymore yeah I mean it's so big and you have to wonder too like how effective was it at parts where it's not that high you could climb over it you know sort of but imagine you're an invading force for sure and you're like let's go and you're like it's gonna be a seven day journey to get to Shanghai this is probably the greatest art piece of all time 2000 years. And then they go in there with all your swords and your arrows are like, they're going to bring a ladder. You're like, no, fuck. I wonder how often people were hopping over that thing. I mean, I'm, well, they have stairwells right to the outside. That's not great for defense. No, that's on the inside dog. Oh really? That's the internal side. So I am not 100% sure, but I believe I am the first person to record a song on the Great Wall of China. I recorded a podcast from on there. No way. Podcast intro. You might be the first person to record a podcast. And I might, you know, a ton of people have done the podcasting. No, no, no, this was 15 years ago. 15 years ago, you do a podcast before Joe Rogan, not from the Great Wall. You did the Great Wall 15 years ago, podcasts there. Yeah. What was it? You filming a video with your friend on your phone? No, this is a legit podcast. What was it called? Skeptical tank. Are you sure if you're a skeptic tank? I never heard of it. You haven't heard of anything. You haven't heard of the fucking fountain head. I highly doubt this podcast exists. It might not. Well, were you doing it before Tom Green? He was like, he was the first, but I'm saying, great wall. I'm not saying first podcast. You try to be the first guy to do it, but someone he has done it on the Great Wall. Well, we'd have to look into it. I mean, I highly doubt you were the first guy to do it. You think you were? Maybe. Pro. So the first guy to podcast on the Great Wall means the first guy to make a song on the Great Wall. Oh, my God. So I had to do some of the vocal recordings inside the actual rooms there. Yeah. Yeah. Did you really? Are you listening in the wall? In the fucking wall, I recorded the song because the in-betweens are so crazy because it's like, is that what the quarters were? Were they slept? That's where people lived. Yeah. Some people still snacks in there too. Yeah. I don't know when you went, but there's some. I got a story for you, but I'm trying to sell you beer and stuff. I got a story for you about it. So I was, they were telling me all the boots in the ground, people like, hey, don't pay more than this for water. They see you like a white guy. They're going to charge you more, saying, no, this is the right price. And I did it up there. And he was like, let's say it was like, you know, two dollars, two, whatever. And then I was like, seven. And I was like, no, no, it's two. I know the thing. He goes, that's if you don't lug it all the way to the Great Wall of China. And I was like, fair. Seven. Yeah. That's when you really needed that got you, bro. I put the top there. So where are you going to show me? Me recording a fucking podcast from on top of the Great Wall of China. I don't believe it first. I'm on there, but that's that's just me on there. Bro, anybody could have taken that's a fucking a, an easy AI picture. I got anybody could have made that damn it. I was probably made this should before I came here today or were you making me bring out AI. Boom. There's a mid journey. Boom. Mike in hand. Bro, this doesn't prove anything you're just standing there taking a photo off with the fucking microphone. I'm recording it only. You don't even have it plugged in. It's plugged. No, that one's not plugged in. Bro, you're so fucking fake. This is so forced dude. It's up. It's up online. You're looking for 10 minutes on your phone and the thing exists on YouTube. Not on YouTube. It's pre YouTube. Oh my. Yeah. Before YouTube. Bro, it was audio only. It was audio only. Bro, you're going to tell me you recorded the first podcast on the great wall. It was audio only. Yeah, it was before we were doing video. Bro. Did you make a music video? Did you make a music video on yours? Low key. Yeah. I filmed it for a documentary. It exists. Bro, this setup was so elaborate I had. So I had a bulletproof vest. I put a mixing deck on it. And then I had a piano strapped on one arm and a drum pad on the other. And then I have a head gear. I had headphones with the microphone on the thing. So my version. Was anyone coming by? For sure. I met a bunch of fans too. I met. There's a. I mean, bro, that's. I got no fans in China, but I got a lot of tourist fans on the great wall of China. And I played the album for some people on the on the great wall. What did you put it out yet? No. Well, it should be out by now. Yeah. Okay. But it's not out yet. Oh, I can't wait. Yeah. But pretty legendary. I made you like you're like playing. But yeah, I don't like this. I made like, yeah, the demo version. And then I re developed it for the shoot lot of iPhones. Bro, what are you talking about legit production? I don't know what the name of the camera is. Some Sony. But it's a. I could show you a picture. Yeah. But my rig was pretty impressive. But it actually is pretty dangerous because I was recording all these wonders of the world. And a lot of places, bro, it's just draws too much attention because you have to put it on this vest. It's legit. A bullet for the best to strap on because you have an iPad in the back portion of it with like Ableton live on it. The latest Ableton 12 had the full set up, all the wires and everything. And it's wiring down. It's a it was a nightmare, bro. And then I started getting PTSD because I'm like, bro, I'm going to get arrested. But like, yeah, I'll do a little bit of that. So like, why do you have this like for music? The thing is that it was all with the best intention. Like, I'm just trying to be able to create an art piece and be able to show the beauty of the world and pull the inspiration into it. So super positive attention. Music video from in the Great Wall of China. It wasn't a music video. I was recording the song. A documentary. So I did Great Wall of China. I did the pyramids of Egypt, which is no total nightmare. That place is crazy. All the people like you have to be paying off people left and right. Left and right. I did it at Machu Picchu. No, sorry. Where's the other one? I was on acid of the pyramids. Really? Yeah. And it was awesome. I guess the pyramids of the old. That's the old one or the world. That's the only really proper standing old wonder of the world. I'm trying to think I did that. Craced the Redeemer in Brazil. Yeah. But anyways, I've been trying to find like unique places that I'd be a cool seven album, seven song album. Yeah. Wait, how many wonders of the world are there? Eight? Well, if you count the old wonders and the new wonders, there's 14. 14. I think there's seven of each. But then there's like all these ones that are gray area wonders, you know, where they're like, okay, that's kind of a wonder world. Is that you in China? Yeah. Bro, you look so ugly back then, bro. Was that actually you? Yeah. Is that you and Cuba? Yeah. That's my buddy. Bro, you're even uglier than that. That's my fat buddy Bobby Kelly. And what's the spot on the left? Grand Canyon. Grand Canyon. That's so lame, bro. I'm joking. But anyways, this whole thing of making is grand Canyon wonder of the world. Hell no, bro. Hell has got nothing on there. Damn. But dude, there's a lot of ones that are like, oh, yeah, you can say McDonald's McDonald's to wonder. I guess the chain wonder. It's a franchise wonder for sure. But I want to say, though, like the whole thing of recording these different places that putting on this bulletproof vest. There was times where it was a little sketchy and in Shanghai, I was playing the album for my brother and his wife. And we had the headphones on in the gear. And then the police came. And then they basically, because it's so much gear, I think that what we were under the impression of is maybe that thought I was attempting to do espionage because it's near it was on the bond. And it was like, and there's, I think believe there's government buildings around, but they're super nice and super. They're cool about it. They just took pictures and like passports and different stuff that they wanted to document in case anything happened. But it was just like me playing them some music to show them the album. But you know, definitely I started getting because this happened in a lot of countries. And I started getting PTSD from it where I like from police coming out to you. Yeah. There were times like where like unmarked police cars, not in China, but in other places where they came up and take your pictures and snap your IDs and different things. And then there was just a few things, you know, sometimes you had to pay off the police. Some countries, that's just part of it because the police don't make enough money that you actually just part of the culture is to pay the police a tip basically. But yeah, it was, you know, a lot of times it's paying off park rangers or people that are working there. So it was a very stressful thing. And I'm actually very happy. It's over because it was very kind of scary for me. I'm glad. I don't want to do that again. Are you going to put like an album of just, well, that's just what the whole album was. It's not about the wonders of the world. It's just recording it at unique places. Yeah. The world, like I recorded it. And, you know, on the ice in Antarctica and with the tribe and all these different things. So just getting a sense of bringing in culture, dude, the concert I put on for the tribe was insane, bro. It was probably the most punk rock concert I ever did for the Messiah. Wow. Me playing a show for the Messiah, dude. They didn't have, they don't have electricity. They live in two huts. And they, they literally, we rented a generator from someone in the town and brought a sound system from these. Oh, the sound system. We rented one. Yeah. From someone in the town, some Swahili guys. And then we brought it in and no one in the tribe had heard beats like this. And they didn't know how to dance to it. It was like a very unique experience. But there was like a kind of at one point turned into a mosh pit. And it was like, no, on its own. Me with the, just the Swahili guys, not the tribe, really. The tribe was like, I didn't even know how to react to the music because they had never experienced anything like it. But that was my most unique concert I ever put on. And I put on some pretty strange ones. But how did they dance? I mean, it's like, they were just, they didn't know how to dance to it. I mean, they had not really heard like trap beats or, you know, they're familiar with like four and the floor stuff, but drum and bass things. They are familiar. Yeah, they have like, you know, some, a lot of like that dance music out there. Dance music is popular. But it's also a video of in Germany and Berlin by probably them listening to the craftwork for the first time in the first election. I just saw that video that it is on the floor. Yeah. And they're like, and you're like, that's not how you dance to electronic music. But they don't know how to do it. It's like craftwork's like playing live for the first time in there. Cool, man. And you're like, it's not beat next stop. It's a beat stuff. But that was right in the transitional. Yeah. That's crazy. But yeah, playing for them. And it's one of the moments, too. One of the older elders, the elder [BLANK_AUDIO] she put one of my trap rap songs as her cell phone ringtone. So I was like, I was honored to be part of the legacy, but that was like crazy. She never, it's like alien music to them, you know? - Yeah. - So that's like crazy to imagine like certain styles of music haven't like reached parts. - Did you have band members with you? - I just played the one man band, Sola, Sola Dola, dude. I mean, that was all I could really bring out there. It was pretty rough. I played Antarctica like seven, eight times, but it's just DJs, that's 'cause it's too expensive to bring up a band. - Who's there? - Not a lot of people. - Were you playing in South America the end of the year, going somewhere, right? - I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm gonna do all seven continents for this next tour, but I haven't, not all of this worked out yet. - Okay. - Where were you saying? - I don't know if it lines up. I'm gonna come see you fucking somewhere like here. - I don't know. - In Antarctica, you're going to the Antarctica show? - You're doing a show in Antarctica? - I'm gonna do a third year in a row. I did Antarctica last two years, concerts. I play three each time. So one ambient set, two dance sets, but I'm gonna do one more. - In like December, January? - Yeah, December, January. Where are you gonna be in that period? Are you coming back by that? - I'm trying to do solstice right around here. - Okay, and when is solstice? - In December, December 21st. - You might have to come and do a podcast while I'm performing, and you can talk over me. - That's great. It's like, so then later, what should I say? - That'll be crazy. I'm DJing. - That would be crazy. - That's the next thing is how do you mix the mediums? You know, how do you do it? There's gotta be a podcast where they're DJing while podcasting, right? - Stand up and whatever. - You know, it's all about mixing the mediums together. That's why I like, what I can really get excited about is like how do you mix things that shouldn't go together together like the great wall of China and make it music, you know what I mean? That's where I'm like, that's exciting. - That's where I'm like, that's exciting. - And you can hear Mo, the band Mo behind us, playing the whole time and I'm just talking to some kids. - What, Bonne Roux? - Yeah. - How was that? - It was great, but it was like, it's sort of a mixture. We're like, you get the ambience sound of like, oh, this is a feeling. I didn't want to get into stadium. - If you saw someone while they're performing. - While they're performing. - That's what I'm saying. Like, take it one step further. - How would you do that without ruining their show? - Well, that's the thing you kind of do, but maybe it's a collab. Dude, David Cho once did, I did an interview with him and he made me sing the responses to him and he would ask me questions while singing. - David Cho. - That might be the way to do it. - Sing. - Have them sing the answers back and you sing the questions. - Wow. - Interesting. - That would be super next level. People, where we gotta cut this out, people are gonna use this shit before we do. - Yeah. - That would be so crazy. It's probably been done. If you can imagine-- - Off to learn some music, they got the music. So they already know how to rip the music. - You just have to learn some songs. - You can sing shit. You don't have to learn a song. You just improvise. - And let's be music going on. - Yeah. - So it's instrumental and the only singing is the people asking questions and responding through melody. But we have to cut all this out, this can't be used. - Yeah. - This is a big idea, dude. We're gonna be rich. (laughing) We're actually gonna be rich. - We're gonna get a four-pack of bugless houses. - Oh, nice. - But anyways, take it or leave it. I'll give you that one free. It starts free and then if you want-- - Do you ever know that, and then it's some question. - Right, I'm not gonna do it and I already did that. - Yeah, right, right, right. - But you get the idea. And with the right funky bass line. I mean, there's that one comedian who has autotune. Right, that guy you've seen him on that, you-- - Bro, are you not on the internet? I don't even use it and I, I'm not a comedian even. There's that guy who sings and does comedy while he's doing autotune. He like has the audience respond. - Morgan J. - I don't know, Ronnie J, yeah, he's a-- - Morgan J. Ronnie J. - Ronnie J on the beat. Yeah, I think it's this guy out, the mustache. - You know him? - I won't listen to anyone with a mustache. - All right, yeah, so you don't need to put it on. - No, I'm not gonna. - You can't be putting on other comedians, especially ones you don't know about, or you have secret beef and you couldn't acknowledge it. - It's tooth and nail claw. Everything, keep everybody down, support no one. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Except fucking numero uno. - And then Bobby Lee is number two. - Bobby Lee's number two. - I can't believe you fight with him, it's so great. - We have to pull up a video of me fighting Bobby Lee, dude. You could splice us in. Bro, none of the videos have worked so far. Not on that goal, just type it in on YouTube or something. YouTube shorts, go down out. There's one that's specifically good. Bobby Lee is a cat. (laughing) There's one, say, there's so many fights. - Not a good example. - That's not a good example? - No, no, no, bro. I've whooped his ass so many fucking times. The thing is, bro, you have to be nice because he's brittle, he has very brittle bones. - He's just a dying. - Typing up. - You know about the cancer, right? - No, yeah. - What happened? - He got cancer. - Oh my God. - Yeah, he's got like long throat and toe and dick cancer and something like that. - Bro, you're fucking with me right now. - He had like a lot of anal, when the stop and his doctor was like, you got to stop doing the anal, or at least don't let him blow loads in your ass. And Bobby was like. - Bro, my kids are gonna watch this fucking episode. Do you understand this? - Oliver's talking. - He's got to teach him about bud sex and blowing loads. Reversed cream pies. - That's-- - So you think they're gonna go to school live, or it's like reverse cream pie, and then you go, what is that, and then you go? - What is that? - Jimmy Trees is so uncultured. They don't even know what a fucking-- - Jimmy Trees, who's that? - Who's the boy's name? - What is the reverse cream pie? - It's when you're cream pie in a butt. It's a Neopolitan ice cream. It's like a strawberry, vanilla, and chocolate. - Right. - Poop, semen, blood. - And you sound to really be maybe the figurehead of this movement. You're like kind of the face of it. - When they know about Bobby's cancer, it's gonna get out more. - Bro, we can't be talking about his cancer right here. Does he actually have it? - I don't know if he's telling anybody yet, but yeah, it's pretty bad butt and rectum and dick cancer. - You never know what Bobby did. He's the boy who cried wolf. - He cries a lot. - There's one video where I fight him in Koreatown. If you go to YouTube for it's-- - What? Okay. YouTube, was that like a website YouTube? - Yeah, YouTube is kind of like a video archive. - I don't know, interesting. Okay, so what? Bobby fights. - You just ran into him and started fighting? - Yeah, literally on the street. That's kind of where it all started. I don't know if it'll know it's Koreatown, but you could just fight. Look at that one there, yeah, it's the first one. Look at this one. - Yeah, yeah. - You just ran into him? - Yeah, this is on the street. It was on site, dude. I had seen him on the-- - Are you smoking in there? It's so great. - Yeah, I'm only pop. - I still was hot. Look at this lady, dude. (laughing) - I punked him so good, dude. - Yeah, I'm like, dude. - That's just on the street, just randomly seeing you. - He was a wrestler when he was in high school. - Not anymore, dude. - Not anymore. Now he wrestles body image. - Pretty good, though, right? - Yeah, it's a story. - But we had way worse fights. We did like a many different-- - You just ran across him? - Yeah, I fought him on Tiger Belly, Bad Friends, H.C. podcast. I fought him like multiple times on each. - H.C.D., but on H.C.D., yeah. But yeah. - It's so funny, that's so funny. - Yeah, man. (laughing) - They're talking about it. (laughing) - It made it's way on a lot of other podcasts, yeah. - Oh, yeah. (laughing) - Just up your fight. - Over the years, dude. - It's like three feet tall. He is. He goes down so fast, too. - Well, though, he's top heavy, that's part of it. - You got to punch him down. - He didn't hear his beef with Santana. - Santana. - Santana? - Santana, right? Santana. - Santana. - Andrew Santana. - Yeah, the guitarist from Megadeff. - Look at those people in the package. - I know, bro. (laughing) - But yeah, he's a legend, dude. Bobby, I love you, man. No more fighting, though. I have to retire. I'm out of the game. - You have kids. They can't see that. - I know. Well, I have to be a good father figure. - Jimmy, if you're watching, don't have buts X to your 16 or 17. And give as much as you get. Give as much as you get. It's all about the love, what you spread is what you receive. That's a message, right? - That's a good, that's a strong outro-ending message. - Yeah. - I think it's beautiful that you really care so much about teaching the youth. I think that you have a lot of good things to share. Especially, you know, in the travel side. I think maybe it's good for you to stick at that side of it. I feel like that's stronger to share that love. But maybe it doesn't sell as much. - I'm gonna do a sex education tour of different grade schools around the country. - Around the world, dude. - Around the world. - Around the world. Why limit myself? - Yeah. - Teach these fourth, fifth, sixth graders about like, fucking the shower or like- - They start about light, maybe not such, you know, harsh things, but maybe, you know, birds and the bees. - Spit on it. - Things like that. - You gotta be careful, you know? - Hey kids, someday, things are gonna happen in the bedroom. And I want you to remember this, when you're old, you don't have to know this now. Spit on it. I just, I don't know if you need that part. - Okay. - You might be able to give out condoms or think like this, I think that's better starting spot. Maybe, maybe in high school, there's a better time to have some of those more rapid. - Too late by that, too late by that. They'll have not spit on it. They'll have gone through a spittable situation and not spit on it. And then they're like, why wouldn't you have a talk? only this before it was time. You know what I mean? It's too late. You can't teach a kid about a conum. When he's already fucked in like 16 seconds. - That's why you start him out. You do the conums, you know, kindergarten or first grade. Let's say something out of more realistic number. And then maybe the spit talk, maybe that's more middle school. But like maybe closer to high school. Because it's just- - It's close, it's close. - You have to be careful, you know, you can't. You can't give too much information. - Obviously, you're gonna be careful. - Now you're gonna be careful. - That's something that you want to be like surprised by it and be like, whoa, what is all this? - Maybe it's better to just wait and maybe do it in high school. - Maybe. - I feel like. - Listen, let's workshop it. - Yeah, I would say maybe stay off line with all this stuff and maybe cut this out. We just maybe you try to figure these things out. Maybe off camera would be a better time. - Right, right, right, right. Kids in the neighborhood and then see what gets to be the pushback. - I would say maybe just talk about it with like a lawyer or a manager potentially and see, you know. Because it might not, it might end up biting you. - You're saying Jews. - No, no, not at all. I'm saying maybe workshop it with police department, people that might be looking out for your long term. - That's interesting, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe look, I would just have a legal person look into maybe the rules and regulations with that because you're titling a very fine line there. - Yeah, but every country's got different regulations for that. - For sure. And that's where it's gonna be really. - That's what's tricky. - That's where it gets tricky. Especially, I mean, I would say probably the only place you could speak to younger kids would probably be in the Nordic, you know, somewhere with some of the-- - The more advanced. - Well, yeah, they're a little more open minded. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I would say other than that, you're probably not gonna be able to get to maybe past college even, you know. I would say a lot of these talks are probably more appropriate for college, out of college, fresh out of college. Like maybe a doctorate, something like talk to those people. It seems like a more appropriate age. - To see like what's the right time for this, yeah. But yeah, I feel like I hit most of what I wanted to. - I think that's great. - Let me see if I missed anything. - Was there anything that shocked you about China that you were just totally not expecting? - Let's see here. - Let me see if I had anything in here. - It's not like a fucking rad trip. - It was a fucking epic, man. And I've done, I've done about three, I've only been three or four times, but each time I stay for a month because it's just so massive and I don't like-- - It's so, it's like 20 countries, so. You can't do like a week in China, so that's a one city. - Yeah, but I would say the thing that shocks me the most, we already kind of touched upon, it's just the idea of not being able to use cash and trying to integrate into their system is like a very complicated kind of thing. The first time that that was like, I was like, wow, I never really heard of a place that you can't use cash. You know that everywhere, that's exclusively true, but like, for example, when I bought the pig nose and the intestines and the chicken feet on the street. - You just swiping? - Yeah, it's a barcode. - So my last shift to Australia was a year ago. It was the first time I ever in a country where I didn't touch cash. 'Cause they're just like, we don't, it's just tap and go, tap and go. - I never use cash anymore, but. - It's crazy, it's going the way. - It's different when you can't even use a credit card somewhere. - Oh, right. - That's the complicated thing of it. - So you've got to put money onto this wheat chat or something and then go. - The credit cards connected through it, but yeah. That's like a pretty big shock is like, okay, cashless, I get it. But cardless too, that's like the whole of their levels. - Yeah. All right, here's what I ask everybody before we go. Two questions. What, what, give me a country that's calling you? You've never been and a general or specific travel tip. - Right. - Like for my travel tip for China, it'd be like bring tissue pack papers. - Yeah, that's good. - You know, and a general one would be, I don't know. But anyway, where's calling you? - Yeah. - There's a lot of places calling me. - Yeah, you're a real traveler, buddy. - Yeah, I've grateful enough to have made it to over a hundred countries. - Dark. - Certified, bro, legit. I'm not talking about just-- - Pat, you fill up a passport? - I have four passports, but I have two 50 pages right now. And one of them is almost full. And I got that one like literally in May, which is-- - I got a travel tip. - That was last May. - Wow. - So in one year, I did it. - You filled it up. - 50 page or? - I got a travel tip. - Yeah. - 'Cause you want to save that, it's a souvenir, really. - Right. - When you get a new passport every 10 years, whatever, they punch that hole in it. Here's my tip. Tell 'em you lost it. - Save it. - Tell 'em you lost it. - Yeah, I did all the time. - Save it. - Nice. - No, if you, you don't need it anymore anyways, once it's up, I mean, you could get two passports as long as you can prove that you're working abroad and have a visa for somewhere, you know about this, right? You only have one passport? - I'm trying to get my remaining. - Bro, you're so rookie with it, yeah? So, hey, my suggestion for traveling is get two passports. All you need to do is have a proof that you're leaving the country and that you also need a visa for another country because you can't be sending out your passport to get a visa approved for it while you're also traveling abroad. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, save that in real time. So you're going to Chile and then you're gonna go from there for example, I was working in Japan to play Mt. Fuji festival. - Okay. - And I had to send in my passport to get a visa for that. But I also had a ticket showing I'm leaving the country during this period and I need to have my passport for that so you need two passports to be able to travel so. - Two American passports. - Two American. - And so you send one off to go, hey, get that visa done. - Yeah, this one needs to be sent to get out and then this one's for traveling. - All right, you're already gone and you did it. And then you also can use that second passport when you go to those more gnarly places that you might not want to have on your main passport stamps. So that's kind of my main traveler tip. Other thing is when you use the electric QR code, this one I don't want to give away so we're gonna have to bleep it. - Cut back in. - All right, I got a tip for you. - Okay. - Forget the check back because if you fly with the check back, you're not a real traveler. - You're an idiot. - You're an idiot. - My whole life is one big ass backpack that weighs about 65, 70 pounds. It has a recording studio in there. It has everything I need. It's like a pharmacy. - You don't allow your sight right above you. - Well, it's got my four passports. - Yeah. - Two of them have holes in them but it has the other two good ones and I have my old ones in there too. I have lower back problems so I'm not suggesting this. But you travel without a carry on suitcase and your backpack, you are a fool. - Yeah. - Because you're not like, and if you were really about this life, clearly you're not. - No, sometimes we got merch. We're going to Kansas City and I got a bag of merch. - Bro, you're doing it wrong bro. - You're selling your own merch. - Dude, I'm low level sometimes. - I like it. - Well, that's another conversation but my tip for you guys is travel light. You do not need anything. Also tip for traveling. Learn this in Brazil. You can wear the same pair of underwear four times in a row. So you wear it, you turn it around. - Turn it what? - Day two, you turn it around. - Turn it around so the holes in the back. - Level with me. - Okay. - Day three, flip it inside out. Day four, turning around again. That's what they taught me in Brazil. - I mean, I've heard of turn it inside out. I've never heard of a turn around. That doubles the amount of extra time. - Yeah. - Watch out for jaw kits though. I have had it many times. So I'm not gonna say it's a foolproof, jock itchless plan, but it does work. And I will sometimes wear the same underwear for weeks out of time. But, you know, it's like a vagabond style, you know? - Yeah. - You just kinda go with the flow. - Just rinse it off in the sink or something. - Ah, four times in a row. I've got two, four, that's another level. - Oh, you're gonna go to a level. - Hold place. - Yeah? - I'm not changing my underwear for a week. Bro, camping out in Iceland, bro. - You ever been in Antarctica, freezing your cutookish off? - No. - Bro, I'm telling you right now, everything changes when I see you on the ice out there. 2026. We're 2025, right? This area's in 2027? - It could easily air in 2026. We'll see when your album's out. But it just, it's your album, just gonna go. Guys, I've again, once again, check out the new album. - Yeah. It's called "Love You, Madly Hate You" "Badly We Made It in Two Hours" before I set the title. Go listen to it if you made it this far. I know there's three or four of you watching. - Yeah. - But, last tip for traveling, if you're going to China, make sure you get the proper WeChat setup with all your cards put on there. Make sure you get the taxi setup and just be fully prepared to integrate into Chinese society. - Damn, these are all good tips. And where do you wanna go next? Where's your one place you haven't been? Do you wanna go? 'Cause I'm sure you go by. - Bro, I got pretty much everywhere, I wanna go. I barely scratched the surface, 'cause even if I say I've been to places, there's so many places in those countries I haven't been to. - With Greenland? - Greenland's up there. - There's gotta be some place. It's like, damn, that's all my list. - I mean, right now, the most realistic one that I wanna go do is, and not that it's the most realistic, it's actually quite complicated, but Turkmenistan is the last of the stands I have and gone in Central Asia. I wanna go to Afghanistan as a high up priority, Pakistan. I really wanna go to Iran as well as Syria. So those are kind of like, I went to Iraq, I loved it. It was so special, I spent a month in the Middle East this year. I fucking loved it, but those are like my main kind of spots that I wanna hit right now. But there's like every spot I wanna hit, I hope to make it to all of them before I die. If not, it was a good run, we had a good run. - All right, if you, if we'll do this again at some point. - Obviously. - And if I see you somewhere here. - Yeah. - We'll do one from like in front of a Maltrupeacher or somewhere. - That would be amazing. - We'll do it somewhere. - We'll let you know if I make it down. - Okay. - Before Antarctica. - Okay. - 'Cause usually, you have to go from either Puntas arenas or Ushwaya. - Yeah. - So, maybe I'll meet you down there if I find and get the dates, you're the first dilatant now. - Okay. - You gotta make it there. That's like the final frontier. - That's the thing. - Yeah. - Hey, I'll be here. If you can make it, you can see me. - Well, if you can make it, you can see me. - Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm talking as you. - Okay. - And I say if you can see me. - Well, I'm excited to show you the ice, I got some tips, and I'll teach you about the delicacies there, the whale smegma cheese, the whale semen cake, delicious stuff. - Is that a real thing? - That's a real thing. We'll get into it next time. - Okay, all right. Buddy, this is great. - Pleasure. - Thank you. - Guys, that's the episode. I mean, that guy is wild. I've seen his shows before, Oliver Trey. But I, put it on a good show. Put it on a really good show, actually. Full of sketches and stuff. His new album is "Love You Madly," "Hit You Badly." Get on Spotify now, or Sam Goody. What are the other ones? What are the other old record stores? It was Sam Goody. - Tower Tower Records. - Tower Records. Errol's Cat Mill Records. Actually started in my neighborhood of Cat Mill. Got Nationals, the biggest thing come out of Cat Mill. And not me, now the Cat Mill Records is done. There was another one. A me, but there was another one that was in malls. Bobbages? - No, that's a nice one, Bobbages. What else? Damn. - Suncoast? - Suncoast was one. Anyway, these are classic places to shop lift from. And now, just as I'm saying it now, they're all out of business. And I can't help but think that I might have been helpfully responsible for them going out of business. When you're leaving, okay, side note. When you're leaving and you're shoplifting, again, this is only ever advice for white people. But if you're with a white friend, have them do it. And you have those things that are right there that might set those off. There's a way to go around it really, if you can, but you gotta go as if you're nothing and then around. You see what I'm doing here? So let's say this was the thing. So you're walking, walking, and just like, and then you keep going, but you gotta do it smooth. You gotta do it smooth. There's also, what I say, the plausible that I ability, which is, let's say you're stealing a manteiglass, right? And you're walking out and you're like holding it around. Don't put it in your pocket. Walk out like this. And then if they catch you, let's do it, let's do it actually. Let's do it. And you wanna help with this? Okay, so I'm just walking out, you're a store clerk. You seem to walk out with your product. You're not crazy about it, but it's kind of like, hey, what the fuck are you doing, you know, you got it, you got the character? Okay, here we go. - Okay, started to do what I was doing about it. - Oh my God, I'm fucked, dude, I'm sorry. I was walking out there, I'm such a fucking clutz. Yeah, white, be it. Anyway, the point is, love you madly, hit you badly, is that right now? Does he ever eat tour dates? Is he doing red rocks? - No, he's got Mexico City, Santiago, Chile. - What, what? - Yeah, Buenos Aires. - What? - Those are, that's where I saw Oasis, probably not the same stadium. - Studio stage? - No, they were playing with the soccer team plays. - Yeah, well. - But he fucking puts on a great show. Go see all this, he's a real traveler, too. That was nutty. When he came in, I was like, you know, I liked his music, so I was like, yeah, I'd be cool to see him. Him, Roblo, there's a few guys that I was like, super surprised me. Harlan, I guess, the first time, where I'm like, oh, you get out there, and then we start talking afterwards. And he was like, I didn't do it, but he was like, you should definitely go to Antarctica, especially if he could be down there. He's so wild, he's so out there. And he's like, you know, the way he talked about it, was like, we all say, it was like, just, you beat, you're out there, you see different cultures, different way of life, it just gets your brain flowing. And he's just kind of like, life's too short. He's a cool guy. He's a cool guy. Love you, Madly, hate you, Badly, available on Spotify right now. Sam Goady, Rest in Peace. For myself, I've got no tour dates. Please subscribe, wherever you're watching or listening. This podcast, you'd be tripping, Legion of Skanks, every Monday, live, and the end guys, please get it. If you've already seen it, leave a comment below on which we're favorite stories are. For me, we were doing this today. By the way, the VIP packages, I just signed, they're going out, but you got it. It's a poster with like all the people on there. And what I suggest, if you're gonna do that, it's a lot extra money. Really nice thick poster. Try to get every one of those guys to sign it, like over the next few years, bring it in, go like, get everybody signature. It'd be cool. If you get them completed, that would be cool. But the end, available. The entire season is 29.99. All the money is going splitting up to the comedians. And you can get one episode, one hour long episode. It's pretty much a special for just $5.99. Six book, it's about, if you get them all, it's about $1 every 14 minutes. Again, autism and Jew. Goes together to solve math problems. It's one of those things where you're like, sometimes I do math and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what that time is that is. And somebody goes, what about that amount of dollars times the same amount of dollars? I'm like, oh, I know the answer right away. It's just a cheat code. God, I still so many albums. You know the best one was BMG in Columbia House. Where you just send them. You just send them. So I worked at the University of Maryland at the North Hills Service desk. And then I would have packages would come in. We'd have to log in and call the people. But there were rooms that were no rooms, like a handyman closet. Bathrooms had a room number. So we would just order them to rooms that didn't exist. And then we'd all know something's up. It's a BMG or Columbia House Packers to a room that doesn't exist. We'd go like, hey, who's Margaret Thatcher? And they'd be like, oh, that's me. And so we any song, one hit wonders, anyone. I'd be like, I'm getting the album. So I have space hog albums. I have everything. Because you could just like, just get it. Who's Ann a Rundle? That's me. Who's Mrs. Fields? That's me. God, I love stealing music. Days are over. It's available free on Spotify. Love you, madly, hate you badly. Today's episode is produced by your mom's house network. It's a nice group of people that have come together and set aside their down syndrome to work as a team in order to get kind of a targeted podcast made as well. It's a match made in heaven. Retards for retards. That's gotta be a dating site. If it's not, I'd be shocked. Also, hey, quickly look this up. Is Herpes for Herpes a website? Because I think the biggest obstacle if you got Herpes is telling someone, I got Herpes. - It's definitely a thing. - Yeah, if you're only looking for me with Herpes, the only uncomfortable talk. Plus, you know they put out. Everyone with Herpes is a slut. That's science. Anyway, what was I talking about? Well, that's the episode everybody. Next week, we have Column Terrell, Steve Renazzy, and Ryan O'Neal on to talk about touring on a bus through America. Please subscribe wherever you're watching or listening. Hit the UB-Trippin pod on Instagram, run by two hardcore dikes that just munch boxes all day long. They do a solid 69 for 69 minutes. They love Heather, Caitlin, you guys fucking rule. Unsuccified, when they go check DMs, like if somebody started with a UB-Trippin sticker, and they have to like, you know, there's a sound. It's like a coming unglued from the 69 for 69. And then, but again, obviously, if there's 64, 65 minutes, they're gonna see that through. These aren't like regular like box munchers. These are high level, Caitlin like competed at box munching at MSU, and then Heather's more like on the street, kind of, she just went to the West Coast to kind of take over. That whole street scene for box munching, and they are looking at your DMs. So if you stick one up, take a picture of it, you know, in context, I don't know if I can pyramid and geese or something like that. All those are available right below. And oh, check out my special Jew. It's on Netflix right now, reborn. Go play, play before you leave, and let it run for the algorithm to pick it up. And that's it guys, next week, bus episode. 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  1. Mavily New York launches a new setting mist with gel-to-mist technology that provides up to 24 hours of hydration without stickiness or residue.
  2. The travel podcast "You Be Trippin’ Everybody" highlights Manhattan as the true heart of New York, emphasizing its unique culture and the joy found in its street life, including interactions with buskers and homeless artists.
  3. Guest Oliver Tree shares his personal journey of reintegration after traveling globally, focusing on his experience in China, where he found safety, cultural insight, and a deep appreciation for both architecture and street food.

Summary:

Oliver Tree, a musician and traveler, shares insights from his global adventures, centering on his recent trip to China. He highlights the country’s safety, advanced infrastructure, and unique urban features like Chongqing’s dramatic, downward-sloping cityscape and brutalist architecture. Despite initial concerns about cultural misperceptions, Tree finds China to be both visually stunning and culturally rich, with a strong emphasis on surveillance and efficiency.

He explores how the absence of traditional social media in China shapes daily life, and how food—especially the extreme street cuisine—serves as a gateway to cultural connection. The episode also reflects on travel alone as a transformative experience, enabling deeper self-awareness and creativity. Oliver ties this journey to his music-making process, where he separates artistic identity from production, using travel to fuel inspiration and passion.

His work in music and photography, especially through global exploration, reveals a deeper love for architecture and the mundane beauty found in everyday urban environments. The conversation underscores themes of personal growth, cultural curiosity, and the value of embracing unfamiliar experiences. Mavily New York is briefly mentioned as a product featuring a new setting mist that delivers long-lasting, breathable hydration.

The episode blends travel storytelling with personal development, offering a vivid, reflective account of adventure and self-discovery.

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Traveling alone helps individuals learn to love themselves, gain self-awareness, and develop a deeper connection with their own thoughts and emotions.

The guest described China as one of the safest places in the world due to extensive surveillance and a strong sense of order, which makes violent crime extremely rare.

Chongqing is built on a steep slope, with buildings constantly descending, creating a unique urban landscape where the 'bottom' is never truly reached and streets go underground.

The food was described as extremely bold and adventurous, ranging from crunchy insects to scorpions and even drinking raw cow blood, showcasing a culture of intense, often shocking, culinary experiences.

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