Chicago’s Homecoming: Ye Returns To The Stage. Charlie Kirk’s One Year Approaches… | Ep 384

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In fact, this just might wind up being the coldest story ever told. See what I did there? A turning point USA is firing up the anniversary engine, so to speak. First, Erica Kirk has moved to publish a one-year look back on her grief and op-ed for the New York Times, and it's not exactly a tear jerker. I've read it. We're going to go through that. In addition, Blake Neff has shared a totally bizarre detail about a conversation that he had in the hospital shortly after Charlie was pronounced dead. It is not good. It is not going to do anything about those pesky rumors. We're going to talk about all of this. Welcome back to Candace. What a weekend, you guys. Okay. So I'm sitting at a peak of inspiration in this moment in case you did not know. The artist formerly known as Kanye West, yay. He has been touring, and he has been selling out stadiums between 70,000, 100,000 seats all over the world. It should be mentioned. He's essentially doing a world tour that is equal to Taylor Swift's era's tour, and he's doing it amidst a total media blackout. That's what makes this really a cultural phenomenon, because the media, they cannot stand to acknowledge the success of those that it attempted to destroy. Okay. I'm going to say that again. The media cannot stand to acknowledge the persistent success of individuals that they attempted to destroy. Hence the crash out from people online who dedicate their lives full time to try to destroy me. They were completely traumatized by me, living my life this weekend. I saw one person posted their conversation with Grock about whether it's safe for me to go to a concert at eight months pregnant, and Grock said, no, the baby could be startled by the music because their hearing is developed. Okay. And I saw the same people who told us that overwhelming happiness and fireworks displayed at a funeral was perfectly normal stuff, right? Those same people were then trying to convince us that my happiness and fireworks that were displayed at a yay concert one year later was completely unacceptable. Things are just hilariously backward. I also wish to underscore the sincere stupidity of their excuse as to why fireworks were okay at Charlie's funeral. They were like Charlie loved pyrotechnics. Yeah. I'm sure he did when he was celebrating. I'm sure he also loved birthday cards, birthday cake candles, hot girls and bikinis. That does not make any of those things appropriate in a funeral setting. It's just a bizarre way to try to argue that people were wrong for feeling weird about the celebratory nature of a funeral. Anyway, enough about that. I have to show you guys some clips from Yez return to the stage. Here is the crowd singing "Heartless" and I am far from this footage. I mean, just just look at that stadium size and one of my favorites. This is famous and the cameras which were turned on the crowd to take a listen here. And both nights, he closed out the show with his song "Run Away." I'm just mentioning here, by the way, I'm borrowing this footage of people on Instagram. I did not record one second of I was just way too excited. I was a true fan, no time to be behind a camera lens, but he closed out both shows with his song "Run Away." Just amazing because when it starts, he just makes one piano note and everyone goes crazy. He essentially has made one piano note famous and then he starts playing more notes and then the crowd just goes wild to take a look at this. All I can say is that it was a night of art, moving arts, there's no other way to express what I witnessed, what I felt, it was something that was uplifting and it further inspired me. And it's difficult to express to audiences what Ye returning to Chicago during the week of Charlie's death anniversary meant to me. Obviously, you guys know Charlie was from Chicago, he's very proud of that. He loved Kanye, thanks to me, he loves the song "Homecoming" in particular, which is Kanye's, it was his ode to Chicago effectively. And it all just felt to me extremely providential, the timing of it all. And I should also mention that Ye had not been back on stage in his hometown over six years, so there was no way in the world that I was going to miss this show months ago. We started planning to attend. We were willing of course to pay ourselves to go, but Ye's team was like absolutely not. They went above and beyond, we had the most fantastic time. We landed into Chicago thinking that we'd have plenty of time to go to dinner before going to the show, but the traffic was insane. He just shut down the city. The entire city was attending this concert. That's what it felt like. By the time we got to our hotel, through all the traffic, we had about 15 minutes to drop our bags before heading over to Ye's hotel, and it was just such a beautiful and wonderful thing to see people just lined up outside. And really, they were just waiting for him to exit his motorcade, just to cheer and take photos and applaud as he was leaving his hotel. And they just went away. I stopped and took photos with a lot of those people. We have a lot of joint fans, and it was exciting for me as well just to be with people again after a long year. I do have to tell you guys, I had this terrible, terribly awkward moment in the lobby. In the hotel lobby, my brain just sort of glitched for a second. We were grabbing our concert passes, and I'm speaking to someone on his team. And suddenly, I looked behind them and Kim Kardashian's in the lobby. I hadn't seen her since pre-divorce, I was so confused, I'm thinking, oh no, oh my, she's going to this concert. And you know, I've said some things about Kim, and now I'm about to be in a box with her all night, because you know, gay makes up with people at random times, and I was just like, oh, I kind of just stared across the lobby at her with a half smile. Have you ever seen that viral stare-down meme from that show? I've likely seen the meme, it's Diddy and that gay guy looking back and forth at each other. I was effectively the gay guy in the scenario. This is live footage of me, and Kim came to lobby. Take a look. It was all fine, turns out she was actually in town for a show that Northwest had the following night. It's all good, no hard feelings, everybody, no hard feelings, all love to her and hers. Now from there we then went to the concert in the motorcade, got to witness greatness. We had all access passes, so we could actually go to any section in the arena. But as soon as we were up in a box and I saw the energy and the movement of the people on the ground, essentially just having a party, I looked at my husband, I looked at security, and I was like, I got, come on, you guys know I have to be down there, I just, I got to be down there. And so I was down to crowdsurf at eight months pregnant, it's just who I am. I was so energized, it was just, I can't express the most. You can still go see the concert if you're on the fence about doing that. I think his next U.S. date is maybe in Dallas, I might be wrong, maybe Houston, go. Anyway, I wanted to introduce this. because like I said at the top, there's a lot of people who don't understand which I can understand how you don't understand what yay means to the world and what he means to culture and why people like myself truly believe he is the greatest artist living because you probably have seen him through a lens of the media and you probably did not grow up with his music and I'm going to do my best to very quickly explain this to you because it's relevant. Honestly, it's relevant to the person that I am today. There was a depth to his artistry that even if you never become a fan of his music, it is good for you to grasp at least peripherally why he has this effect and he's able to survive all of these quote unquote cancellations. In fact, I told you guys this story many times before but when Charlie and I were driving up in a rental car that we had picked up at Denver Airport and we had this three-hour journey up the mountain side to wherever we were going. We were just listening to music and I realized that he didn't know Kanye West music at all and I mean like he didn't know the difference between Kanye West and Jay-Z and I was like stop the car. This is not a thing. You are from Chicago and I just sort of took him through the story and the journey and I'm going to give you guys a crash course from that car right effectively which turned Charlie into a big a fan. He would then run 10 miles a day to his music and we would text about it all the time and just feel really inspired and uplifted by it. When I want to start with this little snippet from an interview that Kanye back then he was called Kanye gave to this is 2013. He was giving an interview to the BBC regarding his quote unquote fans and this is what he said. Go listen to all my music. It's the codes of self-esteem. It's the codes of who you are. If you're a Kanye West fan you're not a fan of me you're a fan of yourself. You will believe in yourself. I'm just the espresso. I'm just a shot in the morning to get you going to make you believe that you can overcome that situation that you're dealing with all the time. So if you grew up listening to Kanye West music you understand that he really is sort of a white hacker as it's referred to in the Matrix right. We live in a matrix of some description. There's a certain computer code that's running that we are impacted by that we are meant to follow and we don't really know who's programming. We don't know who's writing this code only that they expect us to exist mindlessly within it and any person that notices that there is this code is perceived as an immediate threat. Kanye's music represented a hacking to that code. He is correct. You listen to what he's saying and suddenly you start recognizing that why do I think this? Why am I not allowed to think this and I'm going to give you an example. One of his first mainstream songs was entitled All Falls Down. It was a song where he laid out which was quite shocking. All of his insecurities right no artist had ever done this before at this stage a famous person referring to his own shortcomings his financial irresponsibility his inability to pronounce certain words in the song as well prior to we we all sort of had this idea of fame being unattainable in a way and then Kanye drops drops All Falls Down and he's calling everyone out and I felt very seen by his lyrics. He was speaking about in one in one verse he's speaking about a woman in college and will lyrics are man I promise she's so self-conscious she has no idea what she's doing in college. The major that she majors in don't make no money but she won't drop out her parents will look at her funny and he says now tell me that insecure the concept of school seems so secure that was me I had no idea what I was doing in college journalism in English double major what idea no clue I was just following the embedded matrix code that if you don't sign up for I guess government debt I had no money to go to college. Find up for government debt anyways if you don't sign up if you don't go to school then you're a failure right that's just a code and we don't know why we do the things other than insecurity that's pure pressure and insecurity which cost me about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars in student loans and you're just sort of scared that you're not going to fit in unless you do what everyone else is doing and he's speaking to that and then he has the second verse of that where he addresses himself and he and he says man I promise I'm so self-conscious that's why you always see me with at least one of my watches roly's and pauses done drove me crazy I can't even pronounce nothing past that for say she so he's talking about Versace and roly's being Rolexes and pauses being Cartier watches and he's so self-conscious that he he feels like he has to wear this stuff he can't even pronounce Versace you you should know that young Kanye had aspirations to be in fashion we'd see that later in his life even if he couldn't pronounce the words right he couldn't pronounce Versace but he loved fashion and that in and of itself is meant to be a bar to entry like you're not saying the words right so how could you be fashionable if you don't know that it's Versace and not Versace how could you know anything about anything if you can't pronounce all of these tricky French words like I don't I think Kanye is French I don't even know if it's French actually and it all really culminates in the song when he says it seems we're living the American dream the people highest up have the lowest self-esteem the prettiest people do the ugliest things bent on the road to riches and diamond rings and that is a reality I have seen that up close it's what people will be willing to do to get to the top what people will be willing to do to have money and when you get up there you sort of realize that these people do not have any self-esteem whatsoever and they will be will do practically anything to maintain their popularity because they have such low self-esteem that has been the consistent messaging of his music which is why it's so funny people who don't listen to it they think he's so narcissistic because he just believes in himself and but if you listen to his music you're like narcissistic this man is constantly expressing talking about his addictions talking about the traps and like talking about the lore of women him not doing the right thing talking about his divorce talking about the mistakes that he's made letting people know that you essentially have to believe in yourself is has been Kanye's consistent messaging like the current design of the matrix is to lean into whatever it is that they think will make you feel too self-conscious to express yourself right it's like you're not allowed to run counter to the mainstream you're whatever you feel it's not allowed to be counter to the mainstream and they want you to feel isolated in a loan they tell you who to like what's fashionable who's cool who's crazy of course that's one of their favorite tools this person has gone crazy you don't want to be associated with crazy so even if you kind of like that person you don't want to express that publicly that's that's kind of how it works and why you don't belong in certain crowds there's that messaging as well so for me it was why you can't like Trump well you're black right then when I expressed that I like Trump it became well now you have to like Trump forever why don't like him anymore why can't I change my mind on the basis of what he's actually doing why can I now despise all the things that he's doing oh then you're going to get kicked out of this crowd you just got welcomed into this crowd you were in Magoland now you're kicked out of Magoland and for a very long time the media had the power to create and to delete people with what seems like a department of defense level budget now that we know that they engage in the sort of stuff the media has always operated as the real digital assassins and that really is until yay no one faced that enemy harder than you did not many people understood what he was doing many people still do not understand the battles that he fought it's very difficult to understand it outside of his music like I said he has never been accused of being a great order so when he sits down for interviews it's sometimes a lot of times goes various sideways but if you followed his music you understood it and I stressed this to Charlie that it's all about learning that as you climb the pot of gold that they're going to offer you for your soul or to stop growing at a certain level gets bigger and it also comes with bigger guard royals and it's hard not to say yes to that Kanye started as a Grammy award winning producer he was making beats for the biggest artist in the world and then he said I want to be a rapper and he was told no keep making beats this is where you are you're great at this and he said I don't accept that no and he went on to become a Grammy winning rapper and he was a rapper and decided that he wanted to get into fashion and he was told no you're an artist you're at the top of your game you have everything you don't belong in fashion but he didn't accept that no and he did it anyways and then he created a billion dollar brand of sneakers easy and then came even bigger offers the adidas and the gap deals and they were worth billions and all yay had to do to maintain that was to shut up about politics and that was a pretty I mean I would say that that's an offer that most people would take don't express just don't express that you like Trump don't talk about Jewish power in Hollywood or the messages that certain Jewish people in your life are sending you and you can be a billionaire I've been in the room with those sorts of offers not billions ever offered to me of course but I definitely said no to a lot of millions I've I told you that story. It was when Kanye tweeted that he was about to go. Defcon, Defcon III on some Jewish people in his life and the amount of pure pressure that anybody who had a platform faced. Make a statement about Kanye, call him crazy. Say something is wrong. I remember sitting in that conference room, I had nothing to do with the statement, literally nothing to do with it. And despite everyone in the world condemning him, they needed me to make that statement because I knew I was friends with him. And they just wanted a simple message, the copy and pasted, I do not abide by anti-Semitism and all of its forms and what Kanye is doing is wrong and so many people who were in his life made that statement. And I didn't. And so the consequence that I faced at the Daily Wire after a very heated conference, literally the co-CEO banged his fists. It was like, why won't you do this for us? Don't you realize how hard this is for Ben that you won't make a statement? Like, I look back at that, could you imagine? If I had a sold Kanye out for Ben Shapiro, it's like, it's funny to reflect on. But I held the line and I lost millions because of it. Now they changed my contract because of it. But they needed to build trust with me. So they edited the contract and put in a different clause because of what Kanye said. We have to think about that and think about yourself and if you were yay and you were offered billions and all you had to do was shut up to maintain it. So be somewhat controlled. How many of you guys honestly would have asked we asked to that? Probably a lot of people. Maybe at this level where I'm at, the ask is simply, say nothing about Charlie Kirk's assassination or say something and pretend to be overwhelmed by the events that this one person did it in actual loan. And we'll give you millions, hundreds of thousands, who knows what the number is? Would you do it? I think people are doing it for a lot less. We know that Charlie faced that moment in his own life. I know he did. I know what Andrew told me. Bebe offered to take turning point to the next level. You can only imagine the weight of what Charlie was facing in those final weeks of his life. When he was at a table and offers for me to him and I think we all know that he said no. He said no, like Jay said no. Jay let it all burn to the ground. I never get tired of telling the story, but when those decisions were made and when a deed doesn't gap, pulled their deals back and he was no longer a billionaire, I was in tears. Seeing someone that you've looked up to your whole life who has fought in one various battles, really the only battle is just to be himself. Suddenly have everything stripped away from him in a moment, including his marriage, right? The demise of his marriage happened at the exact same time. I just felt tremendous sadness. And when I spoke to him on the phone and I am talking, I spoke to him within hours of that public announcement of a deed as making that public announcement, I will never forget what he said. He said, I'm finally free. I thought he was going to be upset and he said I'm finally free. And I always reflect on the weight and the courage of that statement and how it shaped me. Of course, a year and a half later, it is exactly what I would refer to in my own mind and what I would tweet when it was announced that I was parting from the daily wire, aka fired. Tweeted, the rumors are true. I am finally free. I just wanted to be free. Take it all, do what you do. Have the media matrix lie, paint me as some villain because I had genocide, it's always wrong. Ban me from Australia after that. Zionist lobby of Australia, getting me banned. Like I'm some threats to society. Because in politics, you have to be pro-Israel or get destroyed and have your character destroyed. Yeah, I had the courage to believe in myself and to rebuild because Yeh had the courage before me. And that's what he means to culture and to so many people. And boy, did he rebuild? And that's really what the concert was about. It was just against all odds. He had the ability to not sell himself out and he resurrected his own career. Yeh actually shared this meme which was created by one of his fans online of what it felt like to those who had followed his story and then watched his return to Chicago with so many other artists by his side brought on stage or in the audience like I was just supporting him. And their take on it was Avengers style. Take a look at this. I love it. (dramatic music) - Avengers! - Recymbal. - No! - It's okay. (dramatic music) - I just love that. It is that he beat cancels a culture. You can't never take that from him. No one thought he was coming back after the last couple of years and how quickly he came back. I do also love that it's the Avengers, not the Revengers because there's an important distinction between the words avenge and revenge. And the latter revenge signifies a personal vendetta, personal malice, vigilante justice in a sense wherein you're sort of taking the law into your own hands like there's an inherent anger and a selfishness in that pursuit. But to avenge something is different, right? It's cleaner, it's not angry. It's the restoration of moral order, defense of the helpless. And I feel like in this moment we are collectively avenging the public execution of Charlie Kirk. And I've said I'm not angry anymore. I still would sit down with all of the characters in Charlie's life who I think are moving suspiciously. I wake up and I am happy every day because I think that it has brought people from both sides together like on this team of Avengers. We all sense that what we're doing is about restoring moral order that what happened on September 10th of last year cannot stand and it won't stand. And we all sense that no now that the Department of War is seeking revenge on us for doing so. Revenge is not gonna cut it. Anger is not going to cut it. Truth is going to wind the day. And I have a strong hunch as I always have that we are going to win this thing. By the way, I love watching this clip on Rewind because every time a new yay song dropped, I would just be singing it in the back. Seats distracting Charlie from driving. Here's another very quick installment in the Candace culturing Charlie chapters, never-ending chapters. ♪ And nothing hurts anymore ♪ ♪ I feel kind of free ♪ ♪ We still have kids we have to be ♪ Too many great moments. A lot that I'm bringing up from the archives and I'll be sharing on September 10th and just seeing yay back on stage is just so much that has just come full circle. And even my introduction to the world to the cultural world, Charlie was with me, right? He was with me when I met yay. He was by my side, he made it into the yay documentary that was released last year. When yay introduced me on TMZ, Charlie was there. I mean, you can see him in the background if you watch the full interview. And yay is talking about the ever-relevant topic of being intentionally de-platformed me at the time. I was not being platformed by the hip-hop world because I didn't fit neatly into the box of what a black person was supposed to be. And I love this moment, take a listen. - Okay, so Ebro, our face top on, and I'm there with Candace, right? And Ebro starts bringing up these hits version of facts, right? And Candace has facts, she's researched. - And so on. - Candace Owens has facts, she's researched. And then Candace just pulls out her Jedi lightsaber and just chops Ebro's head off with facts. The Ebro facetimes me the next day and he's talking about the scoop, scoop, poop. He wants to talk about music now. I said, "Yo, you got to have Candace on your show?" He's like, "No, I'm not, she's mean." So you're gonna stifle her voice, Ebro. You're choosing to enslave people's minds. You're choosing to not let the truth be free. - I just love that and it's so funny now to see so many corporations and people that I've worked with in politics try to take credit or in the sort of backhanded way I created Candace Owens. I helped to create the monster, like deranged former CEOs and people I worked with her. So I have some inside scoop on who she is. No, none of you created me, none of you contributed to creating me and actually if there was one person who could say that, he would never utter that statement and that would be a, like there's funny as I said that there's no Candace without Charlie and in many ways, there was no Charlie and Candace when the real storm happened and we both were given this jet fuel in our careers. It was because of a V.A. [BLANK_AUDIO] So I want to say about that just to share what was on my heart, my mind, and we'll be right back after a break to talk about some pre-anniversary stuff that is coming out from Turning Point, USA. All right, you guys. For 20 years, pre-born has stood in the gap between fear and hope. And this year alone, God has used pre-born to save nearly 60,000 babies from abortion. Since Roe v. Wade was overturned, the abortion industry hasn't slowed down. It has adapted. 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Despite flying in with Charlie, we know that Blake got into the second rental, a Denali with Danny Philip, perhaps some other people, because Blake then arrives to the event from the backseat as if someone else had been sitting in the front seat. We know that neither Danny or Blake attend the restaurantology event that morning where Charlie gave an interview, and we know that Blake cannot account for where he was. He says he was keeping time or something of that nature. He didn't even remember who he was with. He had to be reminded that he was with Danny who was driving the vehicle, which is strange, because apparently he's been keeping account of my vacations. He's really crashing out these days. He tweeted this. He has been doing a very good job of keeping track of them. We did tweet this over the last couple days. Candice finds it implausible and ridiculous that Charlie would be excited about his largest campus tour ever because it was also his job. Somehow I am not surprised that Candice, seven vacations a year, oh, ends, can't imagine someone liking work. I understand that it could be hard for a 36-year-old in-sell who has no prospects, no family, no kids to imagine that someone might prioritize their family and their friends above podcasting, just set the record straight. If you're going to avail yourself of tracking my time spent traveling, please put your best foot forward, Blakey, and do it accurately thus far this year, we've taken a total of three vacations. Our family holiday to Spain, our partial family trip to Russia because we didn't take the youngest because of the intensity of the flight. And my seven-year anniversary trip to Iceland fishing with my husband. And for clarity, if Charlie's death has taught me and I hope everyone back at home anything, I probably didn't take enough time off, right? Charlie rarely took time off. We have obviously tracked all of his dates, all his appearances, he was hardly home. He gave everything to build the very organization that now seeks to lie about who he was and actually seeks to make him appear as though he himself was a liar, not been honest or forthcoming about what he was up against in his final days, what his struggles were, who he was fighting. And yeah, he fed that monster. I'm not going to make the same mistake of thinking that bigger somehow means better. I think my team is trustworthy. That's why I like to keep my team small. I think that's the benefit of having a small team is that you have people that you know. And they're going to continue to get time off because they work hard when we are in air. I expect 100% from them when they are here and then I expect them to enjoy their real lives outside of me. I don't do the Erica Kirk, you're my family thing, I'm not their family. And they should go home to their families work hard and live a good life, especially after this year, right? This has been the most emotionally taxing year of my life. They have stood by me through that. And so Blake, you're just sort of off the mark with trying to tell people that somehow they should be wanting to dedicate their lives more in the way that Charlie did. And clearly, clearly judging by your actions, the things that you have said, you were not worth that investment. Also I have to draw you guys your attention to this. This is wacky. Okay? So they're all sort of giving these interviews right now coming up upon the one year anniversary and Blake and Neff spoke to Deseret News, which is in Utah. It's like a local news in Utah. And here's what it says. It says, Neff, I guess it's supposed to be like a profile piece. Neff remembers sitting in the waiting room at the Orm Utah hospital where Kirk was taken on September 10th and talking about how podcaster Candace Owens would react to Charlie's death. He said Charlie was aware of Owens' theories about Francis' first lady being transgender, as well as what he described as weird stuff about Jewish cults, and that some of her views were part of the reason that TPSA had become less involved with Owens around 2024. Now they're quoting him. Someone said Candace is going to have an extreme reaction to this. And instantly I was like, yeah, yeah, she will. I'm sorry. What? I want to remind you guys, I don't know this creature. I've never met Blake Neff. I have. He is never. He doesn't know Charlie the most. If everyone in this story, TPS spent the least amount of time with Charlie. He himself says that he didn't join Charlie's team until what was in mid-2023, so he knew Charlie for a year and a half. I never came across him. He's out in Arizona. I'm in Tennessee. You're having a conversation about how Candace will react and conspiracy theories while you're sitting in the hospital and you just found out that Charlie's dead. Why are you not a conspiracy theorist in that moment? This is in the middle of the manhunt. Nobody knew anything. You guys are already having conversations about how other people are going to react, rather than reacting yourselves and going, who could have done this? Does that make sense to you? Is there something very wacky and bizarre about that conversation that he's now admitting to? He won't name the person, which makes me think, usually when he develops a samsia, it's usually about Danny Philip, for some reason. Maybe it's about someone else. I don't know that for a fact, obviously. But that's their conversation. Oh, Candace is going to have a reaction to Charlie being murdered. Candace is going to have a very strong reaction to Charlie being murdered. I'm sitting in the waiting room. That's the first thought. This girl, but I don't know, is going to have a strong reaction. Why are you not having a strong reaction? Why are you not in that moment going, oh my gosh, who could have done this? Who were his enemies? What did he say last night? I didn't, you say, oh, well, Andrew says that Charlie was worried someone was going to kill him. Who could have done this? Why are you guys not imagining the scenarios coming up with answers? Why does it feel like you already know it's not a conspiracy as Charlie's in the hospital? This is very odd. This is a very odd admission from Blake that they were worried about me. And there's some reason they're worried about me because they should have been worried about me. They knew that I would never bend the knee to this. I would never bend to the knee to a dumb story, the cookie cutter story that someone climbed on a rooftop who had never committed any, even petty crimes in their life who took just one shot out of just pure confidence, not even a couple of shots to make sure they hit them and then scaled a rooftop. So maybe that's why they were concerned. It started to feel like, Blake for some reason had confidence and knew that I would not trust the science on Charlotte assassination. That's what I get from that admission. Candace is not going to just trust the narrative and the science. I really do wonder who he was speaking to. Blake always says too much because Blake wants to be a star despite the fact that he has no talent. And I find that admission to be strange. In other news, Erica, if you have not seen it, released an op head in the New York Times, a one year look back on her grief, which we kind of never saw displayed publicly. The contrary, we just saw an Erica who wanted to move on to be the CEO, but now she's writing an article about her grief. And I'm going to be honest with you. It's another terrible installment in the never ending book of PR blunders. Let's start with the fact that she's even doing this in the New York Times. And it's behind the paywall. Okay. She just continues to partner with a publication that her deceased husband hated. This was the first publication she partnered with. She opened their apartment to an in person interview and sat down with them. What was it? Two days after Charlie's assassination. Charlie never wrote an op head for the New York Times. His opinion of them is long documented all throughout his career. He perceives them as what they are. A fixture, a fixture of the deep state apparatus. He registered himself as opposed to their perspectives. And he would read the New York Times so that he knew what their perspectives were. Taking a listen to one of many clips, like I said, they're endless where that you could find Charlie Kirk speaking about how and why he consumed the New York Times and how he consumed the New York Times. Take a listen. Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline New York. Maybe it's Maybelline. So there's a new story out of the New York Times. And I'm not really sure what to make of this. It's possible the New York Times is actually telling the truth. I have the New York Times right here. I read it so you don't have to. Every morning I'm reading the New York Times the paper of a record. I always I always get a kick out of it. The New York Times. All the news that's fit to print. That's right there on the New York Times. I get some really nasty emails. Charlie, why do you read The New York Times? Because I want to know what the intelligentsia is saying. It's also the the I think it has the most circulation of any newspaper in the country. Actually, the Wall Street Journal might have more. But anyway, you should know what the other side is saying. Always, same perspective that he held somehow immediately. That was something she reverse course on and felt comfortable having them in her home. Okay, fine. So right off the bat, we're just going why is this in the New York Times? Why is it behind a paywall? And why can't you just do anything that feels normal? And as Charlie was, I guess you've been honest, it's turning point 2.0. It has nothing to do with turning point 1.0. It's a totally different organization. It's unattainable. You work with the Department of War. You work with the deep state apparatus. You are their emotional asset. We get it. It just feels like you're laying it on thick and like maybe you could have just published a sub stack here that if I'm running your PRH to a sub stack about how you feel. Don't put it behind a paywall. What you've learned about grief. Okay. And you get into the article and you're like a couple of lines down and she's once again mentioning the Vance family. This is felt like one long promotional event for the Vance family. It's like the deepest thing that she can only reach so deep as what Usha Vance said to her on the plane. Right. And she remarks. It's September 11, 2025. The day after my husband Charlie Kirk was shot and killed, the past 24 hours feel like a fever dream. As I landed Phoenix from Utah and returned home, I get out of the car and my kids run into my arms. They have no idea where I was or what I was doing. They care only that I'm home. As I walked to the front door, it was a tightening in my chest. I don't recognize. Is this what grief feels like? I sit on the couch or Charlie sat two nights ago watching the Cubs with our kids. I feel a way building inside of me. I know it's about to crash. I don't know how I'm going to do this. I told second lady Usha Vance earlier that day and she held my hand and she said, you know when you're on an airplane with your kids and you're going to land in 15 minutes, but the kids are going crazy, screaming, throwing things and then the plane lands and the kids relax and everything is fine again. That's how it will be. Just get through the next 15 minutes. Her words are seared into my heart. They're not just seared into your heart. They're seared into the first speech that you gave. They're seared into the conference call that you said at turning point, USA. We just keep hearing this over and over again. And we're at the one year anniversary. I'm thinking when I opened this like surely they hired someone who could put something that's a tearjerker together. We're going to read this and we're going to see a side of the error that we haven't seen and not something that constantly feels like an advertisement for someone else and feels political and controlled. You're not getting that from this article. It's everything you've already heard. In fact, I think that if you had challenged chat GPT to write something more emotional, chat GPT could have risen to the moment without question. Without question, it would said, this is stuff you've already said. If you have back forth conversation with Claude, the stuff you've already said, I would probably try to reach a little deeper. They have seen this surface level of you. We know you love Vance. You open to Amfest and said, we got to get Vance elected. He's defending. We get that. Can we maybe something Charlie said to you that stuck with you? Maybe something else you learned beyond that first day from the second lady aboard another private plane talking about previous private planes that you were on because they always traveled private. Charlie was traveling private to all of his events. We know this. She's like the last 15 minutes. It's supposed to be relatable when you're flying private. You're on Air Force 2. This is the not the most relatable thing that you could share. Then she goes on and it's just a regurgitation of everything she's already said. She wants, she knows she's not angry at God. Yes, we got all of this from the Jesse Waters interview. She writes grief is strange. Time continues. Even when every part of you wants it to pause or better yet rewind, the people we love who have passed on would not want us to spend the rest of our lives trying to rewind. At first, I needed to survive the next 15 minutes. Again, here we are. Thank you, Vance family. Over time, I realized that Charlie would want me to live them. Over time, you were living within six days, laughing at emojis. We're laughing at emojis on a Zoom call. I thought you were in bed that you couldn't sleep, that you couldn't eat, potentially had to drug yourself to sleep. You were just giggling at emojis and then you told us that told Jesse Waters interview that you didn't even need a sleeping pill. You didn't even need to take melatonin. You just fell asleep because you knew God had you and she stresses that over time. I realized Charlie would want me to live occasionally. I'm asked whether I'm angry at God. I say no. My husband was one of one. I was blessed to be his wife and I understood his assignment here on earth. Again, this is a regurgitation of the speech that she gave on stage. So what's the purpose of this? What is the purpose of this other than to make money for the New York Times, which is a part of the deep state apparatus, actually speaking, Operation Mockingbird, the New York Times was involved in that after they committed another, a different state assassination. It's a nation of JFK. So here she is helping them get signups, running counter to how her husband felt about his publication. She closes this. Mockingers, these are the last three lines. I will tell you what a dear friend she's saying in just put this in context of if you are living through grief, I won't tell you what to feel or that tomorrow will be better than today. I will tell you what a dear friend told me just kept through the next 15 minutes. Vance, vances, vance. One day, maybe when you least expect it, you'll start to see those 15 minutes hold more than just grief. The grief is there always, but so is the beautiful gift of life. And like I said, you can read this article in entirety. I was expecting that they would have hired someone who, I don't know, like Nicholas Sparks. Nicholas Sparks is available, right? I haven't been to know if he's written a recent book. No book was beautiful. It could have, they've got a lot of money. I don't know why the Department of War isn't using Nicholas Sparks to write this. And then we would go, okay, like maybe she was just being weird and robotic. Vance, like this is, you learn nothing about Charlie in this. 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We know, from Israel, then we know that Rabbi Wallicki was on the FaceTime call, sorry, I'm saying FaceTime, I met Zoom call because he was in Arizona at the time. We've got Josh Hammer, and we're supposed to believe this massive call, which came on the heels to just two hours. After Charlie said he was abandoning the pro-Israel cause. And no, he was not kidding. It was not tongue-in-cheek because I spoke to his wife about it. And she never said that he was kidding, or that it was tongue-in-cheek. She admitted that that happened. She was getting her nails done when this was going on. That story is now changing. We know it wasn't tongue-in-cheek because Andrew Colbert gave that conversation to Tulsi Gabbard's office. So we clearly knew and thought that there was something that should be explored about the nature of that conversation. Otherwise, you wouldn't give Tulsi Gabbard's office. If everybody's joking, you had a friendly conversation there after, that was not the case. Turning point continues to speak, and we continue to timeline. Anyway, top comments from last episode, regarding that from the audacity. They wrote, "The only reason you don't tell your spouse that you're afraid of something like being murdered is because you don't trust them." And yes, it's relevant that Erica, when she gave interviews there after said that Charlie was just excited the night before weird for him to be fearful when he was going to die, but so excited that he couldn't sleep. I feel like maybe there was something else going on there. No, I do not believe that Charlie was excited about doing a UVU event. I'm sorry, I've done too many tourist options. I've traveled with him too much to believe that. He was that excited about something that he's always done and that it would cause him not to be able to sleep. That's a high level of excitement for an adult to experience for something that he's always done at a place that he already did it at. He already had done a UVU stop multiple times throughout his career. This was nothing new. Anyway, we are to believe that Erica had no idea that he had any fears the night before. I find that very hard to believe, and I know that you guys do too. Noah writes, "The fact that Charlie sent those messages while on Zoom with Israel was absolutely bone chilling. It sent a shiver down my spine." It should. It does to me as well. It is another piece, of course, in this puzzle. And it certainly does not register as true to me that Charlie had to speak to Israeli officials at 4 a.m. in the morning their time to help him with debate. Charlie was pretty good at debating. I don't think he needed this much help from so many people. It just doesn't make any Frank Turks on the call. Is he some grand debater? Is he known to be a phenomenal debater? He's just all such a nonsense that many people giving tips on debate. And also, you know, he, like Josh Hammer said, he just was really interested in Josh Hammer's book. I just wanted to know more about that. Comment on today's episode. This user writes, "Keep going. You've got this love from Stanford Connecticut, my hometown, thank you. Love to see you guys here." Ali writes, "Anger, you just call that tried to make an excuse for the fireworks at the memorial and said, "The team set that up and Erica didn't know." Well, do they also force her to wear a sparkling pant suit? Yeah. I think she got the message and the theme and she chose her attire accordingly. And Sanders writes, "Please consider pre-recording shows to get us through your maternity leave. Then withdrawals are going to be a whole vibe. Crisis King. I will be announcing soon who is going to take over my show three days a week while I am on maternity leave." I'll probably make that announcement next week. Thank you, guys, we'll be happy with my decision. And Sanders, oh, I just read that. This user writes, "Salem Media Waterstone is releasing a Charlie Kirk documentary within a alleged unreleased interview. Films shortly before September 10th called, can you hear me now on September 10th of this year?" Yeah, "Salem Media and Waterstone." They are acquiring "Salem Media." That's interesting because we know that "Salem Media" is behind or the faradocs, the filings immediately after Charlie died, went over that in an earlier episode. The Israeli Foreign Minister getting involved in spending money in America to give us the October 7th experience to tell their Christians further. Their apparatus has been "Salem Media." And they gave that money because they wanted to see results. Brad Parscale, I believe, was on the board of "Salem Media," or he was at least an executive at "Salem Media," who brought this forward. So I will assume that that is going to be Israeli propaganda, just judging by the faradocs faith by works, LLC, and the like. Lin Maria writes, "Though we mourn in grief, Charlie Kirk is finally free." I love that. That is beautiful and well said. And like I said, he died with a soul intact 'cause I know whatever he was offered, he said no to. I don't give a dumb. writes, "Blake Neff would call a hot dog a sandwich and then wonder why nobody invites him to the deli." (laughs) I just love that. Just to get codes to writes, I basically checked myself out of the hospital to make sure that I did not miss your show. I just walked in the door, battle-bund ready. I see, keep going, Max Candace. We know, no. Well, we will definitely be able to pull out some threads this week as we should leading up to the one-year anniversary of Charlie's passing. And we're going to be hit with just, I can't even imagine how much money they are going to be spending on attacking me as they always do when they should be focused on just getting to the truth. They are now working with, it just seems like now they're working with like drug addicts. Like I don't know, their new pocket of influencers just seems remarkably trailer trash, in my view. Like I said, you sense their desperation. They know nobody believes them. Nobody certainly believes that they're carrying on Charlie's legacy in any fashion, in any manner or fashion because they just seem to do everything that runs counter to what Charlie expressed his desires were. publicly. And yeah, so it's going to be a week. Buckle in. We have a lot of stuff to share. And I look forward, I look forward to it. And I certainly will be getting into the Charlie and Candace archives, which has been a very emotional journey. I will leave it at that. And we will see you guys tomorrow. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin. That still feels like your skin. Maybe it's Mabelie.