Cherry Battle

Hey guys, Jorm here. Don't you dare make fun of this audio that I'm recording from my iPhone on earbuds. Very important guys, we need you to vote on Criterion. We have our voting up for which short you believe is Criterion and which should be placed in the annals of the dustbin of history. Vote now! How many just start and say this? Really enjoyed the last pod so much. Did you? We didn't talk about it. I was worried that you hated it because you didn't mention. Yeah, the pod was great. Can I just say a few things that just delighted me to no end? Oh, I figured I'd immediately go into criticisms, but okay. Oh no, I was full delight. I liked how quickly, when I think to myself, what's the podcast going to be like when I'm not on it? Within a minute, Jorm said, information. Fibians don't have nipples, right? I had that same thought. I was like, I feel like it's already off the rails. It was immediately off the rails. I knew it would be. And I feel like, I don't know. Keeve is like a decent to okay substitute teacher. That's fair. I thought he was pretty good. I mean, he was reading the class notes. No, he's great. Look, don't get me wrong. It's a great episode. But like, I think he has a little bit, you're a little bit, you're not quite Jack Black in School of Rock, but I feel like. I feel like you want these guys to rock. Yeah. And I'm not keeping the train. I'm keeping it on the tracks, but not on schedule. He's one of the classmates who happens to be the teacher for that episode. Well, I almost think that like, you're like a substitute teacher right away. It's like, yeah, when we talk about science in here, we get in trouble. Let's rock. I'm like a teacher assistant who maybe just graduated two years ago. And yeah, you're maybe like friends with two of the kids in the class somehow, or you used to babysit them. Yeah, exactly. Do you guys have that, that remembrance, right? I know you do, did keep like at Berkeley Higher, I remember actually like doing the math later and being like, oh, our, our like student teachers were only like a couple of years older than us. Like I went on a Spanish trip to Mexico and was like joshing around with like the student teachers and like trying to get them to like drink with us and like being like, wait a minute, this is bad. Like they're only like a couple of years older than us because they were like considering it, you know. Not that you should drink in high school. You shouldn't drink at all, guys, until you're 21. I had a fantastic time in foggy London town for what it's worth. Oh, do tell. Give us some highlights. As foggy as I wanted to be, I went on Graham Norton's show for the first time, which is sort of a dream come true. A dream come less than true is that Graham Norton actually asked me why Andy was so mean to Frisbee and then showed a picture of Frisbee, which was, I felt an unflattering photo of Frisbee. And then after the show, Kate Winslet, Andy's best friend, had her son there and the son said, oh, I love Andy. And I said, yeah, he's a little mean about my dog, right? And he's like, nah. So it was British Frisbee bashing over there? He was like, whatever Andy says, I'll back him up. And I was like, I don't need this. Oh, I thought it was based on actually seeing the photo and being like, oh, no, yeah, that tracks. That's fair. I think it was more loyalty to Andy, but he certainly didn't feel as though Frisbee had been done dirty. Frisbee's picture doesn't do him any services. I was also over there with Aaron David, producer on Hot Rod. Of course. She's still working. She works for Broadway. She helped, or she put together The 50th, the music side, right? Special? Wasn't that her thing? Yes, she did. She was a producer on that fantastic, yeah, Radio City concert. I mean, she's, as you guys know, an all-time great hang. All-time, yes. And it was great being in London. I haven't been in London in so long. I really enjoyed it. We went to a dinner with Aaron David, and it was with Lauren as well, and wine was coming around the table. And Aaron was like, oh, no, none for me. And we were like, are you pregnant? And she's like, yeah. Immediately. She's like, oh, no wine for Aaron? She's pregnant. Now, Seth, are you allowed to tell the other reason you were out there? Or is that kind of not a thing? SNL UK is officially, I'm going to talk around it. Yeah. Because I can't quite figure out what I'm supposed to say, but I will say this. SNL UK is officially happening in March of next year. And it's really exciting. And if I was there for that, I would probably meet a bunch of different British comedians. And I would even venture to say that more than one of them said Quaid Army to me. They're doing that. They, in this hypothetical, are doing their research about. I don't feel as though this would have been an assignment. I think they would have found this independently and then been in a situation where it would be just a piece of good fortune if they ran into me to be able to position to say Quaid Army. I'm going to go ahead and say that they were sucking up. No suck ups. I'll tell you that much. Yeah. English people don't do that as much. Just young, excited comedians ready to make their mark. Young, excited comedians ready to make. Effectious energy. Oh, speaking of. I got one other Hot Rod happened to me over there in foggy London town. Randomly ran into Hot Rod's Will Arnett at a restaurant. Oh, wow. Where are you going in New York? I mean, in London. That's so cool. Because he's out there promoting the Bradley Cooper stand-up. Is this thing on? Yeah. Is that what it's called? Is this thing on? Yeah. I think so, yeah. Yeah. He and Laura Dern. Yeah, they were out there doing screeners for the BAFTAs. What did you guys figure out the BAFTAs were last week? A guy who was taking a bath? Oh, on a war for baths, the best BAFTAs. Yeah, they're like in Guy Ritchie movies and stuff. That was the cleanest bath I've ever had. BAFTA. I'm going to drown you in a bath. And then say goodbye. Ta. Ta. Because I think ta. Yeah, because they're dying in the bath. Here's your bath. Ta. It's probably ta and then gunshot. Ta. The transporter. He's won like 25 straight BAFTAs. They give them to the characters or the actors? Yeah, because they're that sarcastic. And the next BAFTA. The next BAFTA goes to the transporter for the 25th year in a row. No, they give it to the, they wanted, they were like, it's just going to be Statham every year. So we should get, we should start giving it to his character's name. Got it. They're like this year, it was a tight race between the beekeeper and the, and the transporter six. Shit. Now, have I told, on this podcast, have I told this story about Shoemaker and I waiting for our valet car in front of a hotel with Jason Statham in Beverly Hills? No, I don't think so. But don't ask me, you know what I mean? Shoemaker and I were waiting for a rental car, which was like, I don't know, I don't know. Like, I'm pretty sure like a Kia Optima or something along the lines. And I remember we were standing there and Jason Statham was standing next to us. And I just had this feeling of like, oh, please don't let our car come first. And Jason Statham's car came out and my memory of it is it was like a foot off the ground and he like, like a giant door open and he just like lied down like you wouldn't abandon and drove off. It was like, it was like the. flat as coolest car i was like what is this it was like a souped up roomba and he just like drove off and i was like thank god it went in that order then your car just little chichi bang bang car all right i'll be um this is a professional podcast where it's very cool to just come in and out so i'll uh i'll be back in like three minutes just you know continue okay well i'll tell his story while keeps gone but uh me akiva and andy had dinner with the rock once and had a similar experience in that i don't know why we were having dinner with him but it was us and our management trying to link us up for whatever reason and this is early days but he was still quite successful and we had some like some super fancy place in the valley and his car pulled up and it was a maserati and i did the joke of oh this i'll be taking my car now and i thought it went over okay that's a joke but yeah it was a pretty cool car it's kind of nuts for all i mean again the rocks uh successes every one of them well earned but i was just listening you know we were listening to him sing on the moana soundtrack which is a real favorite no i'm the opposite i i'm like on top of everything else he's got a banger musical number he does have a banger music you're welcome as a great song hey uh you mentioned here's something i that i think would be uh since no one else is on maybe this would be a fun thing for you to do you mentioned that carol king has a song called bend to canaan right now you're are you gonna rip on where my house is no no no i'm gonna rip on the fact that you should you she wrote a song about the place where you fell off the ladder oh okay you said that your words man i feel like you should in that great yorma sound mixing way yeah make a version where we hear you fall off a ladder in the background of that song oh yes like the way that harper steel added herself to the tom wade yes yeah ah can you hear me i need an ambulance like basically that yeah and then we'll say to the guys like you'll be like hey member i said that um it's really cool because if you actually listen there's like a a very subtle moment where it almost like predicts my fall very subtle carol now carol call an ambulance don't get back on the microphone i need you carol carol these fucking fairy lights by the way i went up there finally to canaan to the scene of the crime nobody had put up the lights seth i'd been promised that they would and who who would make that promise to you somebody who thought you were gonna die yeah me and my wife i feel like that's only a promise you make to somebody who's never gonna make it back to look at it i mean i thought the promise would be no one will ever try to hang lights there ever again i i gotta tell you seth the minute i saw it like a strand of lights sitting there and i was like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die sitting there not being put up i wanted to get back up there immediately you have you have not learned what's known as your lesson. Oh, is that what it's called? Yeah. Keeve, in the parlance of our podcast. Keeve, congrats on your Critics' Choice nomination. Oh, well, thank you. Mentioned in the last pod. Right back at you, Seth. Oh, my God. Thanks, Keeve. You spared me the indignity of having to mention it myself. And I got solid today. Oh, nice. Thanks. It's a real honor to be nominated. I feel like, well, I don't want to throw jinx on anything. We got no shot, but I like getting the old. nomination. My last thing I want to say about the last pod. I laughed the hardest, I think, at Andy's Fuck, Marry, Kill. It wasn't Winter Soldier? It was Winter Soldier, Noodle Arms, Captain America before the serum, and a hot lady. That's a tough one. Even now, I'm it's just like, oh, don't make me choose. Yeah, I do. Noodle Arms is such a handy phrase, too. It's very. It's the best. Yeah, it's really good. Noodle Arms, yeah. He's said Noodle Arms a lot. Do we need to quickly do a little pickup where we say Andy's not on the pod today at the top of the show? Well, why don't I do the pickup later in my closet with bad audio? Okay, great. Just come in all of a sudden and be like, Seth interrupting here to say Andy's not on the pod. Oh, but I think I might know why he's been so hard to schedule. Jack Black, real quick. Spelling bee. Spelling bee. Andy's on a bit of a bad tear in the old bee. I can tell you that today he bailed five short, and yesterday he bailed seven short. Oh, no wonder. Is this because he's stressed about work stuff? I know he's been a little stressed right now. Oh, I don't. I think that. He might be stressed because he bailed seven short and he bailed five short. Like, you think his stress is getting in the way of his spelling bee, but I think his spelling bee failures are making him seem stressed out. Yeah. That's difficult to say. Oh, somebody today, I got a real specific question. Which, during my Q&A, somebody, you know, they opened Quaid Army, I gave them a righteous kill, and they said, I want to apologize to everybody else here. I have a hyper-specific question about New York Times games. And I said, great. And they said, when Andy cleaned bees, does that mean he didn't do any hints at all? And I was like, that is correct. And it was just like everybody in the room being like, what the hell's going on? But by the way, we've covered this on the pod, and I don't think that's entirely true. It's his own set of rules. Oh, 100%. He allows himself the hint of how many words are there total. Right. Yeah. And I think some people would consider that a hint. He said he's gotten it absolutely clean, zero anything a few times, but that it would take up his entire life if he tried to do that every day. He needs a little bit of a parameter of how many words are left. I feel like, again, he is a savant. We had Ike Barinholtz on the show today, and as I explained to the audience, like, the way Andy is good at spelling bee is the way that Ike is really good at Jeopardy, which is, it's not what you would think. Yeah. He won the Celebrity Jeopardy. He won a million bucks for a charity. Oh, wow. It was televised. You can watch it. Yeah. It's multiple episodes where he has to win each episode to get to the final one. And I will tell you from having spent a lot of time in Ike's company when Jeopardy aired, like spending summers living in the same house as him, he was a Jeopardy savant years before he got a chance to be famous enough to be on Celebrity Jeopardy. Did he win Who Wants to Be a Millionaire as well? He did. He won it with his dad. Wow. So he's done both. Yeah. He basically is a, you know, a trivia savant. Yeah. That's like me too. Yep. Steel trap. Yep. Just move on to the next thing we're talking about. You won Who Wants to Be Here for a Nice Time. Yep. You got to the top level. I got a middling results on that actually. I've got a lot of questions to read, but also should we just like knock out Cherry Battle? Yeah. Yeah. It's only weird for us to do it because Andy's not here because, I mean, it was my idea, so it's not like it was his, but it was like, Jorm, were you there that week? Oh, I was there, yeah. Again, it feels like MacGruber time. You were there. No, I was there. But are we going to do it just without him? Let's just do a quick Cherry Battle. Okay. And then go into a Q&A. Well, I'll tell you, it was similar to a lot of these. It was, I think, Thursday night, but maybe it was Wednesday night. Me and Andy would share a car service because we lived like a block away from each other and it was in like the last block. I have a very, very distinct memory and it was like 3.30, 4 a.m. because we've been trying to think of something and all of a sudden, right as it was pulling up to my house, I was just like, what if we use the phantom camera from my, threw it on the ground again, do super slow-mo and put it all in reverse so it looks like you guys are spitting cherries into each other's mouths from impossibly far lengths. And he was like, yeah. And I was like, oh, okay. And then we just got out and then we got to work early the next day to just put it all in motion. I think I wrote some emails. Wait, can you explain your thought process of like why? Why that idea? You know how it is, you know, when we've just been trying to think of a short idea for three days straight and staying up way too late. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure we did for three days, like up into that point. Exactly, because I think it might have been even Thursday night. I don't know what night. It was late in the week. Yeah. And I have no idea. We would start that process on Mondays usually, like of like at least trying to smash our brains against a rock, like, you know, and sometimes it would work and sometimes it didn't. It's not a good enough idea that if you came up with it on Monday, you'd go, that's it. Right. It takes it being at the last minute where you just need something where you can go, OK, let's give that a go. Yeah. And by the way, this is one of my more favorite-ish off center shorts. There's a there is a moment in it where I wonder, Keeve, have you watched it today? No, I'm pulling it up right now. So I bet there's something I'm not this kind of guy. There's a shot that bothers me, Keeve. Oh, interesting. Well, so again, like Throat on the Ground, we were, I think, on your stage. Yeah. I saw three of your shows. And we had to blast so much light for it to shoot at 500 frames a second to be able to see everything like it was boiling hot because we have all these lights and it's getting so hot and it was a little hard to see certain things and heavy costume. Yeah, we didn't quite have a plan, a total plan of what it was going to be because we didn't know if it was even going to work. It was definitely experimental. But I do remember Brian Tucker, the writer, after it aired or after Dress, saying something really nice that stuck with me that kind of made it, you know, when you hear someone else's opinion, it becomes your opinion in the nice way. He was just like, you guys still have some tricks up your sleeve. Like this was nothing like anything you did before, even this late in the game. And that was kind of what I took. I went, yeah, it was good. And so I have a fond feeling of it because of that. It's also nice coming from Tucker, too, especially. I did always trust his opinion on shit. I liked this very much when it aired. I liked it very much watching it again today. I felt the same way. Also, I really like the way the audience is laughing at it because certain people are really tickled by it and they stay tickled by it. And that's a nice thing as well, which is it's not for everybody, but for a lot of people, they were just enjoying it so much. Of everything we did, this is maybe the closest to art. We're like, if you were at MoMA and you were going through the different rooms and there's the one that's playing a weird video and you're like, what is this? And you can sit on one of those padded square stools for a second and you look at it and it's two people spitting cherries in super slow-mo and you're like, huh. That's very true. I once saw an exhibit of just rocks falling down a hill in slow-mo and I was like, this is captivating. Exactly. I don't know if you guys ever saw my documentary now episode that was based on Marina Abramovich. With Cate Blanchett. I definitely did, but I don't remember it very well. But I remember it being good. But I was at an event recently and the real Marina Abramovich was there and I had this moment of like, ah, fuck it, maybe I'll just try. So I walked over and I go, hey, I don't know if you ever saw this thing with Cate Blanchett, but I wrote that. And it was the absolute A-plus reaction from her. Meaning nothing? She had seen it and loved it. Oh, genuinely best. I thought you meant just staring through your head. Totally. But she said something along the lines of, you have a Balkan sense of humor. Fantastic. That's fantastic. Real high praise. I am sharing. A screensaver? Oh, cool. A real effect. Why are they so on board in a lovely way? It's already great. Well, the music is helpful. But they're like, oh, even more than one. Oh. I love the little thud sounds it's making. Remember, we did have to move the cherries over because they weren't reaching, obviously. It's really funny how she's able to catch them all. And they're like, they're versus each other. But it seems like they're working together. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it is a battle, but maybe the battle's them versus cherries. I don't know. Yeah. It's so weird. Great Andy faces. Yeah, he's angry about that. So now what's it going to be? Oh, just one. Oh, right. Now a cherry with a face singing. Yeah. Lovely. She doesn't want to eat it. She doesn't want to eat that one. That's Jorm yelling, clearly. What was your least favorite shot, Seth? I was trying to pick it up. You missed your Keef Peef. My Keef Peef is, if you go back, there's a moment where Andy looks smug in the single and then it cuts to a wide and he's screaming. Right before this? Like farther, closer to the end. Go back to like a self-satisfied single. This guy got the continuity error. There, there, there. Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah, sure. You know what's interesting about that? Every piece of this is doctored, of course. Right. You know, so we could have made any choice. It's not like, oh, yeah, it's because he did that. Well, and the edit's so slow, too. It's not like there was like so many shots. We were rushing through it. Not like we ever rushed through anything. No, no. We easily could have chosen earlier even in this shot on his side. Yeah. And just wrote it back to when he starts to scream to give you a transitional moment. Yeah, easily. I don't know why we made that choice. There's a chance we cut something out between dress and air. Ah, I bet that's it. There's a chance. That's what it was. Right, right. Because they're never actually in these shots together, right? Or, no, were they? No. Like, was this an actual shot? This wasn't, right? Maybe, maybe we did one where the two of them are facing each other, but I doubt it just for lighting-wise. I don't think we lit that big. Yeah. Or for space. Yeah. Oh, no, we must have for the cherry. So we probably did set up this two-shot, but I don't, but none of what they're doing is at the same time. Like, they weren't spitting at each other. One of them would get out of the way and spit a bunch of cherries. Right, yeah, exactly, exactly. And then the other one would get out of the way and spit a bunch of cherries. And we were just like, is this even going to be vaguely aligned in a way that we could fake? What's cool about this is there's no VFX except for the animated face when he sings. Really? There's no, like, we did this all in Final Cut Pro. With, like, masks and things like that. Yeah, just cutting up multiple, multiple layers of video and just moving them around on a space, almost like a collage. Well, because it was just black behind the cherries. Yeah, because there was, because of the lighting situation, like, when you throw up, you know, a big black wall or curtains behind people, usually you see little bits of gray where light hits it. But because we had to blast so much light, the background fell to pure black. It looks really cool. So we were able to just, like, those cherries flying in the air, we would just grab from six different, six different takes of six different cherries and just cut them and put them all wherever we wanted them. That's really good. Now, I have a question. Did you guys have the song first? Did you listen to the song and say, oh, at that moment, we should animate the cherries singing that line? No, there's that song, the really famous, is it called Oh, Fortuna? You know, the really famous, Oh, so love me. Yeah, yeah. And I think at some point when we were editing, we were like, oh, this should be to a song that sounds like that. And then I don't remember, Jorm, if it was Omega Tracks. I don't remember, because I feel like that, that kid was in it, right? But you had to have known before you were editing that you were going to animate the singing cherry. No, that was a midway through editing. We went, what if this guy starts singing along to the song? Like, the order was just starting to edit with no music and just going, all right. And it's all happening at once. What would be a cool song? Oh, it should be like that. Somebody grabbing us like 10 songs that sound like that, choosing one, starting to edit to that music. And then I remember it was really last minute, and I was so happy. Somebody from a visual effect. Like, now they have a team, a room full of VFX artists. This was, I don't know who did it, but it was somebody that, you know, Mike Poole and Matt Yonks could ask for who was genuinely a VFX artist, and they did such a better job than I thought they would. Or was it somebody through Senior Ellie's team, maybe, potentially? I don't think so. I wonder if Dina or Rachel Lim would remember the details, and when they see this, they'll get back to us. It could be in the next act, so we can credit. But I remember being, it was so last minute. It could have been, like, 2 or 3 p.m. on Saturday, and then that came back, but it was so awesome. And somebody had to figure out how to get, like, a child voice that could sing along to it, and we managed to pull that off in the last few hours, too. Because that got added, too? Like, it was actually added to the track? Yes. I don't remember that. I don't remember actually getting it. Yes, and I don't even, we definitely added it to the track, and I'm not even sure if we added some of the music to the track there, too. Like, involved the music department, and we're like, wait, can you create a little bridge right here? It was all. It would kind of make sense if we got it from a more Megatracks-y kind of place. But, you know, it was all very, very last minute, but in my opinion, it doesn't make any sense. But, yeah, it's art. I mean, I do like my VO for the guy. What's up, fellas? Andy here. Long-time shock jock, first-time Quaid. Honestly, I don't know. Anyway, let's get to it. Hit us, Jack Black. Spelling bee. Spelling bee. Yeah, so the answer is I got Queen Bee clean. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, in your face, Seth. You're not even hearing this because I'm recording it after the pod, so you're probably not going to hear this until this comes out because we're late in the game now. They're just going to pop this on after everything's been, like, smoothed out and ready for delivery, and then you're going to find out in the 11th hour, maybe of your entire life, I don't know what your life expectancy is, that I got Queen Bee and you didn't, and you're. You're a loser, and I reign supreme. Cherry battle. I remember we had nothing, and we were told we had to do one. It was one of those weeks. Me and Akiva lived really near each other, and we left late Thursday night in a car. We shared cars together often to save a buck or two for the show because we were thoughtful. And then I feel like right as we were getting out of the car, we had a conversation that was like, maybe do, like, that super slow-mo fan and camera thing again, and we're just, like, spitting cherries back and forth, and we both started kind of giggling, and we were like, yeah, that's probably enough, and then we'll just figure out ways to make it more interesting, and I think we, even right there, we're like, we'll make it kind of like a gladiator kind of theme and give it, like, high drama, and that might be enough. And I think that was kind of how it happened, but that was my memory. And then the shoot was super fun, and we started adding ideas to it, and my favorite part of it was, like, my favorite part of it by far, obviously, is when that last cherry gets spit, and we go to super close on it, and it starts singing in the, like, choir boy voice, kind of like, I believe I said I wanted it to be exactly like when the bird flies away from Gandalf on the top of the tower in the two towers. Or the moth? I think it's a moth. Anyway, it goes and gets some help. But the score in that part, the Howard Shore score, is like, and I was like, I want it to be like that. And I can't remember who's singing, if it's me or maybe Jorm, or somebody else. But that was my favorite part of it. And Gabriela Sedebe was awesome. She was super nice. We had a blast. We shot it really fast, because you get so much footage so fast, because it's shooting at such high speed. And Keeve chopped it together real quick, and we gave her a little tidbits, and it was great. And I have fond memories of Cherry Battle. Is it Criterion? I don't think so. But I would maybe posit that it's, like, in the conversation for Kim's video. All right, love you guys. Was Loren mad that you didn't do blueberries and use them from his blueberry farm in Maine? I don't know if he had that. He didn't have it. This actually inspired him to get the blueberry farm, I think. But we'd have to get a voice note from him confirming that. He saw that and he was like, I just had the greatest idea. By the way, every Christmas, when you get like a jam jar, a blueberry jam from Loren, every Christmas, I just picture him, like, slurping it. Laving over a stove, making it. Just the idea. Oh, making his jams. I just love the idea of him being like, oh, God, I need another 5,000 of these. And he just-- Got to send them to all my friends. Oh, I forgot about you, Arma. Fuck. Fuck. Get another pot out. He doesn't write anything down. He just by mentally remembers everybody he's going to give jam to. I've never gotten-- I've never gotten the jam. You've never gotten-- I've seen it, because it comes for Andy. Loren's blueberry jam? Shocking. Well, this is a call to arms. In my mind, he just gives it to everybody. Well, it's his ex-caste, but apparently, if Jorm gets it-- Well, I did a TV show with him more recently. That was super successful on Peacock. Oh, right. It's called "McGruber." Right. You did "Traders." Were you getting blueberry jam before the "McGruber" TV show? Were you getting the jam? Fuck no, Keev, no. OK, so it re-put you on the jam list. Yeah, I got back on the jam list. Do you think it was sympathy jam, based on how the show had gone? Yes. There's no jam sweeter. Mm. Yeah. He sends it to Sam Elliott and Laurence Fishburne, too. He was like, look, Jorm, you can't read the reviews. But you can have some jam. I'm sorry we convinced you to be a part of this show, Laurence and Sam. Before your time, the previous Lauren gift was lemons. I did get those. Meyer lemons. You got lemons. Yeah. And I remember once Rachel Dratch opening a box of lemons and saying, when Lauren gives you lemons-- They were those really nice Meyer lemons, but it was really hard to know what to do with them. Yeah. That is that thing where you're like, there's a level of wealth where you're like, oh, thank God, the lemons. You know what I mean? When you hand it over to your baker and go, oh, we get to have the lemon meringue pie again. Yes. Our lemons have come in, but you need the full-time baker. Yeah. That's the thing where I always say Lauren doesn't realize-- I sometimes worry Lauren doesn't know how little he pays you at "SNL." Yes, yes. Because he's always like, and then, obviously, just give those to your baker. You're like, I don't have a baker. I've got a roommate. I got a roommate who's not in trouble. Showbiz. Whatever you call it. We also all had the grossest, teeniest New York kitchens that you had never used. Yeah. Ever. So you're also like, what am I doing? Yeah, you never used because you're at SNL all the time. Looking back, it would have been like, let's have a cocktail party and just like. Garnish the shit out of these things. Just garnish the shit out of it. Just like solo cups full of gin, but with like the nicest lemon zest. Just no ice, solo cups full of gin. I mean, a Meyer lemon rind is the best lemon garnish on a martini for sure. Yeah. When you were in Foggy London Town, did you have a London martini? I didn't have a London martini in Foggy London Town. I'm trying to think if I had any. My best thing in Foggy London Town is I walked into a place to get a coffee and then got like the greasiest sausage sandwich just because I saw somebody ordering one in front of me. It's hard to beat one of those. Yeah. Yeah. If you see a good one, you're like, oh, yes, please. The one other thing I'll say about that, the Gabourey Sidibe show is there's a Hamilton. I think it's the last Hamilton that aired. And the next Hamilton is the one he's going to do at my wedding and then Andy's wedding and then never again. But again, Hamilton was, as we described, a very, let me rephrase this. I was going to say a lovable white supremacist. But I feel like in this day and age, but there's a line in it that because they were a couple and he's trying to win Gabourey Sidibe back. And one of the ways he says he won her back is that he went and saw her movie, Precious, which she was there promoting. Oh, it's not her as a character. He's actually Gabourey. I think it's her as Gabourey, yeah. Oh, right. Because at the end, he sings Life is a Gabourey to the tune of Life is a Gabourey. I've never been more sure about anything in my life. Oh, when I'm with you, life is a Gabourey, my dear. Life is a Gabourey. She does take him back. But he says, I saw your movie. And she goes, you did? He goes, yes. He goes, I saw it at a Magic Johnson theater. I looked for a Larry Bird theater, but I couldn't find one. Jesus Christ. Good writing. Good writing. Can we say something about Gabourey? Just because she was an absolute delight and she was a total delight while shooting Cherry Battle and very, very fun to be around. Yeah, we kind of skipped past some of the details on Cherry Battle, but that would have been a main one. It's Andy and Gabourey Sidibe. Yeah. And not everybody would be down to just. Well, because it was incredibly uncomfortable. To be like spitting cherries is not the most, you know, comfortable thing to be doing. Under hot lights. You don't know if you're going to be made to look like a fool or, you know, you could have a lot of questions. And she just was super game. Yeah, she was very fun to be around. This is based on the fact that we were just doing it. This is a question from Maddie. Hey, dudes. Every time I hear one of you do a Lorne impression, it makes me wonder if Mike Myers modeled his Dr. Evil performance after him. They sound really similar. I figure if there were anyone, we could maybe figure this out. It would be this crack team of Quades. So it's interesting because I feel like generationally, we know that that's 100% what Mike Myers is doing. But it was denied at the time because it was all the press. Yes. When those movies were coming out, the press did not miss that. Yeah. It was talked about all the time. On our. I had a dinner when we were doing Hot Rod. I have no idea why it was me, Bill Hader, Aaron David, and Lorne at a four-person dinner. I don't know why it was just me at the time, but I think you guys had an. It was probably planning the blueberry stuff and wanted to make sure I wasn't there. It was probably that. The list. But Lorne, we started talking about impressions that were done of him. And we were talking about Brain Candy. And he was like, well, that one was me. And he was like, but no, Mike's in Dr. Evil. That's not me. That's not based on me. And it felt like he should have been stroking a hairless cat with his pinky in the air saying, that one's not me. It wasn't. It's like, but he said, Mike told me. He said, Mike told me. That's what I'm saying. Mike always denied it. I don't know what else he was basing it on. I mean, the look is not Lorne. The look is from what, Dr. No or something? One of those early Bond movies. Blofeld, right? Does he continue to deny that? Like, it seems to me. I don't know. But I was going to bring up Brain Candy as well, because one of the most famous ones is Mark McKinney. And he is like the big evil executive, and he is doing Lorne to a T. Lorne wig, everything. Oh my God, it's so good. For the record, Lorne was the, producer of, fucking, I'm blanking everything right now. New Kids on the Block? No, New Kids on the Block. He wrote all the New Kids songs. It's because he wrote Hanging Tough, and so he gave it to them. Well, what's funny is, I'm so tired and frazzled, I just wanted to say Strangers with Candy over and over, which is just not what they were. It was Kids in the Hall. You told me that Hanging Tough was written about growing up on the streets of Canada somewhere. I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And Lorne, it was a real, other meeting situation, because Lorne was originally in New Kids on the Block. Yeah. And then they said we had a meeting, and it was a lot of him going around. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Wait, who's out? Wait, who did he say was out of the band? It's Donnie. Is Donnie Wahlberg out? Oh, sorry, I missed something. I was getting a snack. Who did we, did we mention who was out? Donnie. As we eat, as we reveal how few of the New Kids we know. Buttfish? Donnie. Was it you? Did we say Buttfish was out? Hey, speaking of strangers with candy, I just had Amy Sedaris on the show, who's truly one of the greatest people in the world. That show was so funny. We got the box DVD set back before we had SNL and watched every episode. Every time she's been on the show, she has said diabetes like her character on that show, and just like looks out in the audience and says it, and it's the funniest thing in the world. We're going to be selling these at the Cure Thrift. All the money goes to diabetes, because it's a funny word. And then Cole, whenever, but the other thing is she was backstage giving out little like craft rings for people to give to their kids for the holiday season. And one of my producers told me, I wasn't here for that, that he had a friend with him, and she turns to his friend and goes, do you have kids? Because she was going to give him rings, and he goes, no. And she goes, oh, sterile. And it's such a great, just knowing that like Amy Sedaris is that funny. Just take that biggest swing. Hey, Shana. I hope I said that right. Hi, guys. So I do love that you guys love, I also love NYT Games. I work at the New York Times, but not at games. I work at Wirecutter. I'd love to hear you mention some other time sites, especially Wirecutter. I'm feeling a little left out. What product would you like to see reviewed? We actually, John Lutz, although I learned last episode, John Lutz is the pronunciation. John Lutz does a very Wirecuttery sketch on our show, where he is a sort of overworked product tester. So maybe you should look that up, Shana. I think you'd enjoy it. John Lutz is very, very talented comedic actor writer. And yeah, I'm sorry that we have been sort of overlooking other parts of the New York Times, the venerable institution. I do go to Wirecutter. Wirecutter is great. I'll give you a recent example, even though this is not paid and maybe it should be, is I need new smoke detectors. And I went on Wirecutter to find out which ones to get. Did you find it helpful? Did you listen to their advice? Yeah. Cause I mean, how would I know what to get? Yeah. So. All right. There you go. If I get back to you and my house is burned down, then no. Yeah. I will say that Akiva was, always that guy, like your entire family, Akiva, like your, your mom, your dad, like they would do research. They would like check things. And the fact that you're telling me that that's what you check now, that really bodes well for me to want to check it in the future. So big up at Wirecutter. It's really hard to get paid for this after we did it. Be like, Hey, we didn't add you give us a little bit. It's also hard not to get into ad reading mode when you start talking like this. Yeah. About products. I would just say real quick. I just can't imagine that could have gone any better. Better for Shana. No, I was trying to, as a member of Quaid Army, we look out for each other, you know? This is from Daniel. And he said, boiled goose was the line of his that Maya Rudolph quotes to him the most. You're all friends with her. What is the line of Maya's that you quote back to her the most? Oof. I don't think we try to quote Maya around. I don't do good enough impressions to usually quote people's stuff. I feel like there might be a Bronx Beatty kind of thing. She once said, she pronounced the car. And I will say that I, I like it so much that I have trouble saying the actual name of the car brand. See me and Renata do everything together, huh? Mainly because Glenda doesn't have a car. Yeah. Yeah. My stupid ex-husband Barry got custody of the Hyundai. That's a weird car brand. Cause it does make you want to say it wrong. Cause you're like, how do you say it? Hyundai. You know what? And, and this is, it's shitty for me to say because it's our, our movie, but I do in my mind, Deborah is like, it goes through my head all the time of her saying Deborah. And then what's that based on? Uh, I believe Deborah is, but you know, that's us quoting ourselves. So that's a pretty shitty response. She has unlimited things you could quote. And by the way, the boiled goose she quotes is the boiled goose. Yeah. Which is almost like good, like written for her as well. Yeah. She also, what was the name of that character that was like, it said Forney numbskulls. She has so many great. Kevin wrote, wrote in Glenda Goodwin. Glenda Goodwin. And, and Kevin, was it Forney numbskulls? She was like a lady who was afraid of different monsters, like ghouls, goblins. And then she said, Forney numbskulls. What is that? We might have to play a little, uh, I'm trying to decode it. What is it? I don't know. I think she just made it up. I think she told me that it was something that she said when they were kids that I made up. Got it. She definitely tried it as a talk show once. And, uh, can you try to find out also Kev, what, Stratch's name was when she was her friend. It's an all-timer. And then there was definitely, I mean, think the sketch i watched the most is her singing the national anthem which is what liz wrote remember she like just making a meal of singing can i uh add on to that last like of when when quoting your friends who have made something funny i think the only time that you do that to your funny friend is when you're trying to be a dick right like i once put jizz in my pants as my ring tone so that people would call me around those guys just to be an asshole to annie and keith you know i mean like i'm not gonna like it's rare to actually quote something your friend says in seriousness i think though maya can do that very skillfully oh and then there's tt and mario is the other one of maya's that i quote all the time which was what's that one keenan and maya were soul singers named tt and mario kind of based on like ashford and simpson yeah and there was this you the entirety of a song who was let me put it in a little bit just the tip all right that was the full song i know you're gonna know this one who didn't groove on this bad mama jama in 1977 roller skate love you are so beautiful and you are my knight in shining armor let me put it in a little bit just the tip uh yeah it's just sexy innuendo you don't know what they're really talking good when it's nice and short spivey by the way spivey i'm really hopeful that you're listening i know you're a big fan of the pod still one of my favorite things ever of all time i would love to have spivey on this show we should just have spivey on yeah we should really just call her up right now cold call uh dratches the first time she did a glenda goodwin it was called second time around it was a talk show about divorce and dratch's character's name was renata wang fucking perfect name that's great perfect name and then the next time was goodwin and goodwin oh man rudolph spivey and mike sure who was the host why would mike mike came back for something no i think this was that old oh knee of our dollars oh it's from both so it's oh god it's before it's before our time yeah if you've been bothered by any of the following such as cyborgs tyrannosaurus rexes alien dudes count dracula sleaze decks the boogeyman outlaws hunchbacks sea monkeys minotaurs lufarigno portraits with moving eyeballs gremlins and phony numbskulls oh what year was this uh and you ever had all this like 2004 i want to say when's big so this predates the linda lost movie uh you know for the stacks i mean obviously the show was from the 70s but somebody pulled that out of their memory that probably got the ball rolling 2002 wow that might have got it they went hey we're in the culture check turn on snl right now we're back in the culture that's sid calling marty croft say it one more time seth it's a phony phony numbskull phony f-o-r-n-e-y like 40 phony yeah uh numbskulls num and you might be skulls but yeah i'm just a little off phony numbskull oh man hey speaking of gremlins is on there gremlins what do you think uh nine and seven year old boys gremlins too scary or just good i think it depends on the boys yeah there's definitely some boys that they'd be fine and some boys where they'd be like why'd you show me that no i think it's fine i think i think it might be fine we just watched the trailer and i would love to watch it again it's pretty goofball yeah um here's a question a common question keve did you consider that you were winter soldiering when you used your credit card at the bar you were banned from oh that's interesting that well that implies a timeline that would be kind of the timeline because this is 2011 you're talking about right so if we're gonna go i mean this would be before quaid army before the podcast so that would imply that this has been happening well before new york times games or any of this so yeah it's a can Worms, certainly, to think about. Well, when did you, that sort of, I thought you meant timeline-like. Because you were in a different state, would it be possible for you to have flown there as a winter soldier, stay asleep, right? Or stay in a comatose state or whatever it was? Yeah, I would have missed days. Yeah. Well, it's obviously a highly financed thing. And maybe they have future tech kind of flights like Concorde Jet type things, you know, like the Avengers have. I don't know. You could probably get from Atlanta to L.A. in three hours using their tech. And so you could probably fall asleep at 9 and be back home by 6 a.m. if you're really going to do a ton of charges. So the quick answer is it is possible. Well, but then it's only open through business hours. So I don't know. Oh, you finally mentioned it. You did beep it last time. Oh, shit. Yeah, I didn't mean to. Now we have to beep it. Beep is only open for normal business hours. That beep just cost us fucking $15. By the way, I definitely knew which place it was. When you said it was near UCB, I was like, click. Uh, here's one. I just want to let you know this is from Lennon. I just want to let you know he's conducting a work meeting. At the end, I went to tell the team, hit me up if you have any questions, but it started to come out, hit us in the titties. I caught myself, but definitely bobbled the sentence. Does it make you feel good or bad to sabotage my meeting? I mean, good. Good. And I'm especially good that you caught it. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't want you to actually get in trouble. But great name. That's a separate note. Simon, just a quick email from foggy London town. My wife, Sally, and I are big fans and love the pod. We both. Seem to have included it in our nighttime routine, getting into bed with headphones and falling asleep to the podcast. A couple weeks back, we started being confused about how we know someone named Galvin Penton. And it took us quite a while to figure out that somehow subliminal, subliminal, somehow subliminally in our sleep. We'd absorbed info about Yorm's medications for his injury with the latter. And actually, we're thinking of Gabba Penton. Oh, my old friend. I mean, that's what Yorm calls his old friend, Galvin Penton. I do. My new and old friend. Yeah. You're always like, excuse me. Gentlemen, I need to text Gavin. Galvin Penton. Galvin Penton. Galvin Penton. Oh, happy about all these comments so far. They're really good. Hey, boys. Hi. Hi. This is from James. One thing I'd love to hear more about is the process of picking songs from the albums for digital shorts. Did you have digital shorts in mind while writing tracks for the albums? Or was it after an album was finished that you went through and chose which ones to use for shorts? How did that work with the usage rates between the label and SNL? Always been curious. I'm curious about that. Sending love from here in foggy Australia town. When we're writing the songs, like in the studio, goofing around, having a laugh, we are picturing a video, I would say, 100% of the time for every song. Like, we're in a fantasy world where we get to make videos for everything. And I will say also that the songs are much more successful when they have videos. And it would be really great if they all could have it to support it. I think some of the ones that on the album are probably the least listened to might be the most fun as a video. But then the real world comes in and videos are very expensive to make, or certain kinds of videos are. And so then it's a weird combo of trying to be responsible financially. Like, you don't want to spend I'm-on-a-boat video money on the old saloon. That would be irresponsible. Yeah. And so you're trying to figure out, you know, what the opportunities to make a video is, and then which ones to do, which ones you can do, and which ones seem to be people's favorites. And then if it has a guest, that's a whole other problem of trying to figure out when that guest could show up to do the video. And then, Keev, what about the rights issues? Oh, that's a whole other Galvin Penton. Oh, is it? Indeed. I think we kind of touched on it on the Incredibad one, where because for years, of course, we weren't allowed, and none of NBC put any of their videos on YouTube, but then they would put it on NBC.com at a certain point, and that could barely even run videos, and on Hulu. And we always wanted them on YouTube, or they'd be international. We made a record deal so that we could own the songs. We bought the songs and licensed them to SNL, and then it was always a negotiation. So certain videos got paid for by the record label, and just licensed to SNL for $1. Other videos, sometimes we got them to collab. Like, for instance, with YOLO, we got half the money from the record label and half from SNL, and they split it right down the middle. There was always something to figure out, but it's why they're on our YouTube channel to this day, the ones that are on there. Because they were on the record first, so we controlled the music, and a lot of times our label had paid. So it was some. We owned some amount of it. And by we, I even mean me, us and Universal Music Group, Republic Records. So we don't actually own shit. No, no. I mean, we own, like, basically the same amount they do, right? Like, it's a good deal, right? Where it's paid 50-50? No, no. Oh, God. Oh, it's not? Oh, fuck. They own, like, 82%. It's not? No, I hate to tell you how record deals work. Shit. But it did get them to be able to reach a lot of people, you know? There's a whole. There's a whole generation of people out there that just saw them on YouTube and didn't even know about SNL. And that's all because we were able to make that deal. And then, just think, if you did not have the platform that you sort of earned from, you know, making those videos, you wouldn't be doing a four-person podcast that's, like, half ads. Exactly. And that at the end of maybe two years, we could afford to make one new music video. That's what we're saving up for, guys. One music video. But it's good that you beat Japan. Yeah. So we're really going to blow it out. I would love that. I mean, we should all do it. And shrooms. Michael has a question. Hey, I've always wondered, watching SNL. This is a very good question. i've always wondered watching us on tv when there's a camera cut and the skit swaps out a real person for a dummy or other prop to take its place how does the studio audience react to that do they see what's happening and does it ever take away from the live experience thanks for bringing a little light into my life every week um again not andy i should know this started hey seth kiev and jorma not andy he sucks so i don't know why michael's coming hard for the perfect episode to ask this question yeah yeah love you so i my my take and i wonder if you guys share it is that most people even at the live snl yes are watching the monitor yeah and so you can kind of switch something out now again like maybe the one place that wouldn't be uh true is home base which is when i say home base that that's where the monologue is and when you do a sketch there you want to do a sketch there by the way because people are watching it more than they're watching the monitors but if you're one of those corners like they're definitely watching on the model i would say that is absolutely true or if it's a really long swap and people start to know like for instance quado is a long swap it right it's it's so long that it like actually has like extra dialogue to like facilitate the swap and it's such a ridiculous looking swap in that people start to notice i'm just like wait what is going on but i think in a good way they start to know yes 100 for that sketch in particular sometimes you will hear a giggle when you're watching at home i'll hear a giggle that is not motivated by anything you're watching at home and you're listening to something you can see and you know something is happening yeah off camera you know whatever when the next cut comes there's going to be a joke and they're getting ahead of it because they can see and it is potentially fun for the audience and yeah i think that there's very little more enjoyable than that extra couplet of dialogue that has been added between dress and air to buy more time certainly for writers tell me more about that until we're ready to cut to the next chat yes um here's someone from obby i'm a long-time quaid first-time querier so here's my quaid query aside from being in the golden era of snl the lonely island blew up at the same time that a lot of comedy was flourishing online college humor cracked five second films brit nick etc some people in these sites even ended up working at snl sarah schneider streeter side l how where were all you guys of the other comedy groups and websites was that a time where you guys knew all those dudes well just quick shout out the movie that i did in finland was actually written by nick and brian britannic oh nice and they have a movie that i think the guy that used to be our main exec at our company billy rosenberg yes i believe screened a britannic movie at our office because we have a little they just directed a little private theater in our office and they just came by and did a screening i couldn't make it to it but right that was that yeah yeah that is correct but i will say we were not we were sort of aware because that wasn't like it's not like we went to comedy clubs comedy shows right so if a video was really funny on college humor we got texted it or you know emailed it the same way anybody would yeah like uh derrick derrick comedy i remember like watching the uh island of daughters uh sketch and thinking that was really funny that early early uh derrick comedy and we knew the human giant guys but they were they had a show on tv so that's like a little different yeah um but you know some things would reach us but it wasn't like our it's not like the circle also included all of those people but also it was early days of youtube too so it wasn't like we were like scouring the site for a ton of shit too yeah i don't know we were working i guess i mean charlie bit my finger was pretty huge i love that one oh there's here's a question uh from elizabeth i've listened to your podcast for one year and eight months in the hopes of when to hear a vague anecdote about the sketch hip-hop kids bear cave with ryan uh philippe um and uh we talked about that episode and didn't talk about it i gotta go back and watch it and then i will briefly comment on uh hip-hop kids hip-hop kids uh i feel like that's a lot right this is good yeah i think that was plenty okay um i think maybe the day this comes out so we'll have uh day drinking with sabrina carpenter i'm very excited i'm i'm jealous you know my daughter went to the concert i'm just jealous any time you go day i'm a big fan i will say a real big fan of uh sabrina carpenter the person why just i think she's a incredibly uh kind nice sharp funny uh i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i've heard all her music because my daughters are such fans and it's one of those ones where i'm they're always like put on some music and i was like oh i'll put that one on because i know it's genuinely funny yeah it's too dirty for them to be listening to but they've heard it all without me so then i wait so how good was she at drinking though seth good yeah uh you know what i i'm also very happy to say uh she was cautious in a way that i respect and liked got it yeah she wasn't trying to be a hero okay you pressured her properly right and just was like you fucking yeah exactly you're gonna come on day drinking and not drink i told her my favorite thing when julie dreyfus did it which i by the way i say this to all of our guests where i'm like hey by the way you don't have to do any of this you know what i mean like yeah i'll drink but like we can switch your shots to water like don't do anything you don't want to do and uh when julie dreyfus did i said basically that speech i go you know you don't have to drink anything uh you don't have to and she's like yeah i know you think i'm gonna do any of this stupid shit but people really are drunk on your thing so i just yes i want to be make it clear that you're not faking your thing because when you watch the julia louis dreyfus one you're like oh she didn't drink she's very clear and it's on camera that she's not drinking yeah yeah that's not a secret most people do drink and uh yeah nobody i do think it's a very hard thing to act as drunk as we end up sometimes i did have to explain to my daughters because they asked what exactly being wet meant because of sabrina carpenter though interesting and i was the only one in the car so my wife could not feel that way and i was the only one in the car so my wife could not feel that way i would like that you're like liz was there but i'm like i got this i got this honey they i mean they're old enough that they do they're like yeah kids say at a school or like someone will say like oh man it's raining out i just got so wet and everyone will go and so she knows it's something dirty knows it's something she needs to know so she doesn't get made fun of so she did need to know it at that age and you told her about doing pcp yeah about just getting wet i'm like when you're in the if you're smoking angel dust if you're smoking weed by itself it's just smoking weed if you sprinkle angel dust on top of it or on tobacco it's called getting wet and that's what it's all about and you're like now go out into the world and be confident young ladies exactly be confident yeah so they're laughing because they think you went out in the rain and smoked pcp that's exactly right be confident girls your daddy's made you come yes this is coming now you know exactly what it means well um this was lovely we wish andy the best as he recovers from just eating shit back days on the b oh that poor bastard yeah and uh this was a delight i love you guys love you very much yeah love you oh who's gonna take it all three of us at once three two one later later quades