Chayka's Choice, Torts Out in VGK Succession Plan, Teams Calling on Hellebuyck, Knies and Others!
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The podcast opens with lighthearted banter about Tim Hortons’ limited-time Tim Bits flavors, including chocolate crème brûlée and cappuccino, leading to a story about devouring a 50-pack during a road trip. The hosts then share golf updates: one struggles with a shoulder injury and has committed to putting left-handed despite skepticism, while the other plays frequently and helps a friend, James Duffy, join a club, sparking playful jealousy from a third person.
Transitioning to NHL news, the hosts analyze Jim Hiller’s hiring as Toronto Maple Leafs head coach. They question whether his defensive, counter-punch system from Los Angeles suits offensive stars like Auston Matthews, though they acknowledge coaches often improve in second stints. In Vegas, Ryan Craig’s promotion is seen as a natural progression after developing in the AHL affiliate Henderson. GM Kelly McCrimmon defends the Golden Knights’ culture, dismissing critics as jealous and highlighting the team’s three Stanley Cup Final appearances in nine years with three different coaches. He sarcastically addresses Mark Stone’s back surgery and LTIR speculation, reinforcing the organization’s unapologetic, plan-driven ethos.
Finally, the hosts discuss Winnipeg Jets’ potential trade of goalie Connor Hellebuyck after his public unhappiness, suggesting the team could leverage his value to address roster gaps. A separate goalie trade sends Joe Woll to Philadelphia, which feels premature given the unclear market. Throughout, the conversation balances humor with sharp hockey analysis.
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In store, we're on the Tim Hortons app. And Ray, if I were guessing, I can tell, if I were guessing, I would think your go-to is either the chocolate creme brulee or the cappuccino collection of tickets. >> The chocolate? >> The chocolate, but I just had a momentary thought of the bucket of 50 Tim Bits. >> That's a lot of Tim Bits. >> Yeah, but I used to drive up to home, which is about six and a half, seven hours. When I was going up to trail, throughout seeing the kit, Matt landed. And I'd buy Tim Bits. They'd stick them in the, they used to have the smaller, right? The box bucket thing. And I'd have them eaten within seven miles. Like, come on. >> I can't stop. And so I'm just thinking what a 50 bucket, like how long that would last. An hour from Vancouver is Abbotsford. And I'm almost sure I could get to Abbotsford. >> Yeah. >> You wouldn't save like 10 for the grandkids or anything like that. >> Oh no. No, I think Tim Hortons and trail. Look at the get them in trail. I'll take them there. But I can't stop. I can't. >> That's awesome. >> They are good for one timers, right? Like you're sipping on top. >> Yes. >> Just a quick one timer Tim that I like it. I want a golf update and I'll give you mine first. So I haven't actually played around a golfy yet this year. I know it's embarrassing. I've got a charity tournament. I know, I know. I've got the Hattie charity tournament. It's a great cause. Tomorrow locally here. So I thought, okay, well Tuesday after the podcast, I better at least go hit some balls. I'll do something. So I actually hit a pretty good driver who's working. The wedge is the rest I don't really worry about. You know, it's just crumbles. What does it do? >> Whatever. So I'm going to admit to two embarrassing realities. Okay, the first, I somehow injured myself. Even though I thought I warmed up and I stretched properly, like I can barely move my left arm. That's about as high as it'll go. >> Yeah. >> Great feeling. >> It feels like something went wrong in the shoulder. So that's just age. That's what that is. I've committed, Ray. I'm a right-handed golfer. I've committed to putting left-handed. Cross-handed left-handed this year. Lost. You've lost the plot. You have no chance. >> Would that drive you crazy if you were playing with me? A right-handed golfer and I'm putting left-handed? >> No, but every time that you put it and miss, because we all miss more than we make, I would make sure that I remind you that you're put it. Why don't you put a blindfold on? Like, why don't you put backwards? >> Well, that would be better. >> That would be better. >> If you're going wrong, like, oh my gosh, that's no. >> Well, you can't. >> No, I am. >> Did you try cross-handed yet? >> I haven't really, but I probably should. That makes more sense than cross-handed left-handed, doesn't it? >> My uncle used to put that way. And I said, well, that doesn't mean that you're right-handed. And he told me to beat it. >> He was good, too. He was a really good player, Uncle Mike. >> Well, I'll bring you another update. Our next edition of the Raindrages podcast. >> Okay, I'll give you a quick little effort or course. Really nice little club. Seymour Golf Course in North Vancouver. I've been back three days, I've played twice. I got to take a day off today because we're going to the Canada game and at three o'clock here. >> Good for you. >> We're getting down there at 11 and looking forward to a good day. So, I'm a whole family. Riley and Reese, they're teenagers. They're like, yeah, Dad, we'll go down with you guys and then we'll meet you inside. Basically, dusk us. But so, as I'm playing golf yesterday, one of the pros says, hey, I saw Duffy out here yesterday, hitting balls. I go, yeah, I know. I said, how long was he here for? I said, a couple hours. I said, he could go hit some balls. I didn't realize he was going to become a member. >> Yeah. >> What the heck? >> Then we're playing tomorrow and then he's playing Monday again. So, he's really grinding it out here. The job is really wearing him down. >> And this is a noise, Jeff O'Neal a little bit, because he says that you were virtually no help in aligning his golf to the Okanagan Valley, yet he's gotten wind that you've kind of been over backwards to help out James Duffy. So, it's an insides club. >> Well, my club, the club that I play at, I don't know, 12 kilometers away. Jeff's asking me to help him out, 350 kilometers away. And every time you would suggest something, you get the old dog. >> I like to play first off in the morning. >> Yeah. >> Well, then ask the course. What do you want me to do about it? >> Don't worry, 8.50, Nathan. >> It's a good enough. I need to go at 6.50. >> No, I don't want anybody. >> I don't want anyone in my way. I want to play before the mowers are out. >> Well, go ask the guy then. Don't ask me. >> No. All right, man, lots of news around the national hot league, Hiring's and Trade's Meculation and Reaction from Kelly McCrimman in the Vegas Gold and Nights. The Hiring of, as I said a couple of coaches, let's get to all of that, Ray, in the headlines brought to you by the Canadian Brewhouse. Real fans, you know the move. You experienced it. You arrived early. Happy hour at the Canadian Brewhouse continues running Monday to Saturday, 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. Skip the couch, hit the Canadian Brewhouse. It's been your home for every puck drop, every goal, and every cheer this year. So let's start with Toronto. Jim Hiller, we knew was in the mix. That's the term that we use to speculate on certain individuals who have been part of the interview process with coaching vacancies. So we knew that Jim Hiller was part of it with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I did not expect that he would emerge as the candidate to replace Craig Barubey. But Jim Hiller hired as head coach. The Leafs didn't work out for him right in Los Angeles. So how confident are you that he is the right man for the job now? Well, I think his profile fits with what John Chakka, you know, projects and that's a pretty heavy analytical side. And I think you got to be careful because analytics have always had become this battle ground. And it's not just like there is a projection. It's just the media that's battling over analytics. It's internally in the game. There's varying ways about how much you use them. So what I will say is in LA, they didn't score a lot. They checked a lot. Their system, maybe because of the roster they had. But it was very counter punchy. It's not an aggressive system. When they struggled to score, Jim doubled down on that system. So when I hear that he's got a great relationship with Matthews, I would assume that was from when he was the assistant coach there and was running the power play, which there is no checking. There is no checking on the power play. Right? So this is if the coach was hired because of a previous good relationship with Matthews, that to me steers onto the road that you're doing everything just to a P's one guy. And that shouldn't be the case. Matthew should like it in Toronto because he likes it in Toronto. Not because we're going to hire this guy or sign your friend. You know how guys like it in a place if the team is good. If the team is at that level because now they clearly have more input into all of that stuff. I was really surprised that of all the coaches that are there, that Hiller would be the guy. Doesn't mean it doesn't mean it can't go well. But his previous stop was more of a style and a projection of style that would make me think his offensive players are not going to love it. Now Chica is selling the theory. At least he shared with me that his belief is that coaches are better the second time around. They're the first experience.
and says an NHL head coach doesn't always go so well. That's obvious with Hiller and the LA King. So do you buy into that? Is there something to that? He will be better. Yeah. I do drink like how anything you do with the, you know, the second time you went on the air, you were probably better than the first. And I hope that I'm yeah, well, like, because you think you know what's going on. And then you get there and you're like, oh, I, every player, I mean, rarely does a player come in, hit the lead like a lightning bolt and stay that way for 12 years. It doesn't happen. They might have a great start. And then they try to figure things out. And by the second year, you're, you know, everything about the travel and how hard it is and how you recover and what, what you can do that you couldn't do. And what you can do in the NHL that you, you know, because you could do more in junior and you're like, oh, I can't do that anymore. So I do think Jim would be a different kind of better coach. The interaction with the players, the, I would hope for every coach, it wouldn't be as firm and my system is this. And this is the way we have to play because your personnel will be different team to team, right? In LA, they didn't have, I mean, they had a facsimile of what Neil and her might be, right, with in same stylish with, with campaign and maybe Fiala, but they didn't have a, they didn't have a real offensive team in LA. And so maybe that's why he coached it so tightly. But man, they were like paint dry watching brutal at times. Yeah. Yeah. Vegas didn't waste any time with the coach search. Why would they? Right? As we talked about on Tuesday. And, and, you know, it wasn't, it was soon after we had dropped the episode of the Brain Dregs podcast that Vegas announced that John Torterralla wouldn't be back. And the acts whiffly in promoting Ryan Craig, who, you know, won a Stanley Cup as an assistant in 2023 in the Vegas bench, went to Henderson. As you talked about on Tuesday and worked on, on his development as a head coach. So why muck around? I mean, if Ryan Craig is the guy, then just everybody move on. And obviously that's what Vegas is doing here. Well, I would say without really knowing, but with pretty good certainty, if in those two and a half years or two years at Ryan Craig was the head coach in Henderson, if Vegas was not happy with his growth or progression, they wouldn't have made him the head coach. Like they would have changed their plan. Yeah. So they, they clearly liked how, how Ryan ran his first bench. It's, it's, it's back and again, I guess to Hiller who they're saying, you know, it was better a second NHL time around. Well, you can't, even if you think Ryan Craig's your head coach, you can't drop him out of nowhere onto an NHL bench and say, here, run the thing. So right in in Henderson for people that don't know, it's literally up the road from where the Golden Knights practiced. And so he would have had all kinds of interaction with the management. He, he would know their pipeline of players. He would know most of the players because he was the assistant coach there. And so what he got to do is work on his craft outside of the, outside of the glare of coach and in Vegas. And I was like, we talked about it. We're not surprised. No, Vegas, always Vegas always has a plan. And you might not like the way they execute the plan, but they're the size of in what they're trying to do always. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is a perfect segue to what we heard from Cali McCrimman in his media availability, right? In, in acknowledging towards Pataki about the reason behind promoting Ryan Craig. That was part of it. But Kelly tried to set the record straight as well. He acknowledged that the Golden Knights have been to the Stanley Cup Final. Three of their last, well, three of their nine years of existence in the NHL. But he made an important distinction in acknowledging Ray. Each trip to the Stanley Cup Final was with a different team. Well, obviously it's a different team. But what he means is that there were lots of adjustments and changes, right? The team that won in 23, not the same, you know, different personnel in, in, in, in a number of different ways. So that was the point there. And anyone on to address, I'll describe them as the critics. Maybe you want to go and social media, call them haters. It doesn't matter by saying that it's all based on jealousy and the fact that people are uncomfortable admitting that Vegas has done a good job. I mean, talk about taking the bat off your shoulder, man. He called everybody out, whether they're other hockey clubs, media, outside fan bases, whatever. And he's just like, we do an awesome job of trying to win the Stanley Cup every single year. And if you don't like it too bad, maybe you're jealous. That was the takeaway for me. There was not he, I mean, Kelly doesn't dance around things very often or if ever. Yeah, right? He's, he's kind of a steamroller in his, in, in the way he does things. But this is really the first time that, you know, as you said, he took the bat off the shoulder and in a way though, it will not in a way. He is right. Like teams do envy. And there is jealousy of teams that win. You know, who does not get a lot of credit? Either is is Carolina. Like people don't like the way that they do business, whether it's from right owner or from the management staff. They don't, they don't like it. Well, too freaking bad. They won. So like, why do they have to be like everybody else? As you were saying, a different team and I never even thought of this yesterday. When, when I read his quotes was they made it to the finals, right? Three times in nine years, three different, three different coaches, three different coaches. Yeah. Like what, what are the chances that a team has three coaches in nine years and gets to the finals three times? Like zero. Not very good. And so the, the team that finished and lost in game six, I think will be significantly different in September. They've got to move, they've got to move some cap money around. They've got to sign Doraphiev. They're going to do something in goal. You know, it doesn't seem like Aiden Hill would be back at five million dollars. And so they're going to, they're going to be, they're going to be different for sure. And, and if you do not, if you do not change and grow, you're, you're probably going to slide behind slowly. Yeah. One thing there's, there was a legendary coach in the Canadian football league, Wally Boano and Wally was famous for letting players go one year too early, not two years too late. And I think that's it. You know, it's not that he's not loyal. He's like, I don't think he can do it in two years. I'm not signing you to a four year contract. And that's kind of the same view I see in Vegas. And I would suspect that they would be different. His, his line of the, of the press conference, I thought was what he said. Yeah, you know, and then the year we, you know, Mark Stone had, had back surgery for fun, for fun. And that was like, she didn't leave a stone on that. That is, that is the sarcasm from McCrumman that I've grown to love for decades. Like that. He's always been that way. And he's never, ever going to change. He's not wrong. You know, like, at least people who think that, Oh, geez, this player in this case, it's Mark Stone is just a comedian LTI R option for the Vegas Golden Knights. Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's great. I mean, it just took him having back surgery to go on long. Well, I would say not that he cares, but the fact that they release next to zero information, ever. Yeah. Yeah. Kicks the dust up. If they didn't say at the time, we had back surgery, because I, because I don't, I'm pretty sure that he didn't, then people go, I had back surgery. You can't, you can't. Yeah, yeah. Right. But anyway, that's, that's a whole other thing. I, I just think through, I just think there's steam, they steam roll their way through their plan. Here's our plan. Yeah. And we're, we're going to execute it. And if we got to change and, you know, our plan is, our plan is generally not going to change. And I, I think it is a really admirable way to do business. Well, you're wondering about goldening there. And there is some uncertainty with the future of Carter Hart. There's nothing etched in stone beyond the remainder of that contract. And I'm not connecting the dots. I'm not trying to radio myself here. But there is a lot of buzz around Winnipeg's Connor, right? Teams are calling Winnipeg. Don't know the teams, but teams are calling. They know that Winnipeg needs a two center, would like to add a four center. Probably want to beef up their blue line a little bit, maybe get a, you know, another physical guy for whatever reason, you know, Logan Stanley was available. He ends up in Buffalo. And if you consider trading, he'll be better figure out your goldening in a hurry as well. But teams are calling and the jets shoveled off is listening. and it's safe to assume isn't it, Ray? This all stems from Connor Hell.
Allabuck's end of the year, exit interviews with the media. When he made it pretty clear, this isn't good and I'm not happy. So he's not happy and Winnipeg now, you might as well see what's out there. And if there's a fit, move on. - Well, in a sense, there in Winnipeg is in a really good position because if a team thinks Conor Hellebuck is a difference maker, which he probably is, you're going to recruit more than a couple assets for him. And so you mentioned some things that are wanting in Winnipeg and it is, you can't get them unless you're gonna draft them and that's gonna take years. This way you might be able to turn them over quicker. What happened with ealers in them was really tough. That's a tough one because you don't get anything back for a really, really good player. And, you know, Hellebuck's got years left on his contract, so it's not the same thing. But at any point, if you get to a place where you're like, the guy doesn't want to be there, again, back to the CFL thing, trade him one year early as opposed to keep in a player that really is not secure or happy in his place. You'll get a look around the league. There'll be some things that will be really interesting. Like, I would be, well, I'm not gonna connect teams. I mean, it's pretty obvious 'cause I don't like the speculation of it, but there are teams that, unless you want to because you have some, you know, a little bit more information, but I can draw a couple pretty quickly and go, yeah, I could see them being really interested. - Okay. All right. Well, we'll leave that for now, right? I mean, I'm with you on that kind of stuff because it can be unsettling for the players involved at all. - You know what I don't like about it is if you mention a couple of teams, then someone says, or a drag or something that these guys are interested. And that's not the case. What I'm saying is I can draw a connection. - Yeah. - In the 30 seconds we've been talking about it, I could come up with a couple of teams pretty easy. - Mm-hmm. What do you make of the goalie trade sending Joe Wall to Philadelphia along with Simone Benoit? They get a young American league defenseman back, small-ish, but gritty. Sam Erson and Adrapick, for me, it felt early to be honest, right? Like, you know, what is the goalie market? I mean, we're going from one extreme to another here. We just talked about hellow book. I mean, obviously Joe Wall Erson are not in that category, but, you know, to John Check, I guess he must have felt like I know what the goalie market is. I know what it isn't. And this is the best I'm going to do. And I'm freeing up a little bit of money so that I can maybe be a bigger player and free agency on Darren Raddish or somebody like that. - I guess that's the connection point. When the deal showed up, I'm thinking that the second part of the year, like after the Olympic break, Sam Erson was really good. It was very, very good. But he couldn't get in the net because Vladar was awesome for them. He couldn't get in that. - He played, you know, but when they were fighting to get in, they were Erson played, Erson won. He did a great job for them. So, but given their, they liked the two American league guys and so they were worried they're going to lose hill to be on, I guess the guy there, what they were going to lose them on waivers. Why not wait until midway through training camp or right before camp because it becomes inevitable when teams get to training camp that if there's a goalie on waivers, there's a trade to be made somewhere later towards camp. This deal to me, you put a goalie tandem of Stolars who's never played a number of games. He's, you know, he's had hit trouble getting his feet underneath him in the league and then he got hurt a bunch of times. - Yeah. - You know, that really limits the amount of games he's played and then you've got two guys that are completely untested. So in my mind, there's a push and pull here in Toronto. I talked about Vegas having a plan and trying to execute it. So you're talking about saving money so you can bid in free agency, but now you've got a really questionable goal-tending group. - Fair. - You know, so like it's the push and the pull of that. And until, I guess until this roster comes more into focus after, you know, in a couple of weeks, it's hard to say, but to me, they're fighting uphill here if they're trying to do this immediately. I just don't see it in, I would be very surprised if they're able to pull this off in the fashion. It looks like it's going, unless we see something way different, come the draft. I mean, they got a third round pick in there as well. I mean, they still don't have any picks the next couple of years on the ground. - That's really. - Right? So again, it's that push and pull when I think they're in a tough spot in a lot of ways. - Okay, let's drill down on a few players that I know are in play. Doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be traded. But just simply general managers gauging the market, checking the interest. And because of what you just mentioned, the reality that may beliefs in their lack of first round picks, I think that in part fuels John Chica's motivation to consider trading Matthew Nies. And, you know, he continues to, as I said, gaugge the market. I'm getting that from multiple, multiple teams who are doing their due diligence on the 23 year old winner. A bad idea to trade this get, unless you're getting a grand slam return. - Well, again, we're back to the push and the pull. - Yeah, if this, if, if, if you're trading a 23 year old emerging power forward, which is what Matthew Nies is, you're going to spend a lot of time looking for an emerging power forward with good hands. - Yeah. - Like I do think we know that Nies was battling a little bit some health stuff towards a, you know, the last half of the season really. I view Matthew Nies as two years ago, not this past year. - Same. - I think he's a really good player. I think he is a legit top six power forward. I think he can play and will play with good players. He makes plays that allows him to play with good players. He's a really good skater and he's big. Who is not interested in that. So if they trade him, how does that make the team better for Austin Matthews? And William Neilander, it doesn't. - Yeah. - Because if you're not accumulating future assets for Matthew Nies and you're trying to do something immediately, how can you make your team, how could you make your team way better, Drake's? You can. - Yeah. - Because Nies already is a really good player. - Yeah. - To me, he would not be just because he is a trade asset wouldn't be the reason that I would look at even engaging in him. I think they got way more problems on that team than and Matthew Nies should be part of the accumulation of the assets, not trying to shuffle deck chairs around. - And to be clear, I mean, teams talk about players all the time. That doesn't mean that that player is going to be traded. But this one, it continues to linger, right? There was lots of talk before the deadline. It continues to linger. And that's not, that's not, sorry. That's not Jake's problem that they talked about it before the deadline. - Yeah. - Like we all, we all might be frustrated, but that was somebody else. That was Brad Traleving. That was, you're right. - Had nothing to do with him. He's just been on the job. - So if he's gauging the interest, I mean, it's not like when he left, you know, Traleving left his notes on the desk and said, "Hey, I talked to this team." Right? So he's got to start from scratch. That's, you know, so he's talking, he should, John Chakers should be talking to 10 teams. If that's part of their plan, he should be, try to agree to talk to, what do you got? Are you interested? Yes, we're interested. You put this stuff together and then you go, "Yeah." It's a deal or no, it's not. That's what's going to pop for, and it's going to happen. Here's the thing. We might all be tired about it 'cause it's been since March, but the drafts in 10 days. So that's where the deal's done. So you know. - Okay. A couple of other developments with individual players I want to get to. I tweeted about this earlier today, but multiple teams in on Bow Byron with the Buffalo Sabers. And so it requires a brief explanation. He's going into the final year of his contract, and then he's at unrestricted free age, right? His agent is Darren Ferris, who general managers across the league will jokingly refer to him as the Ferris wheel. And look, he's got the reputation. - I like it. I like it. - Yeah. He has the reputation, of course, he was Mitch Marner's, is Mitch Marner's agent, of walking his,
better players, top players to the open market. That's his preference. That's what he's known for as a profile player agent. And so if you're your normal kicker lining in Buffalo, you're like, okay, well, we're not interested in that. Why wouldn't we start now having these trade conversations and see what the return is, right? So I think that that's where that fuel comes from. I said multiple teams, and I think they're at least four or five. And from Byron's perspective here, Ray, you're probably looking at the line, aren't you? And going, well, I like Buffalo. I like the team, but I'm playing behind Dalline, and I'm never climbing the ladder, or I'm probably not climbing the ladder in Buffalo. So why wouldn't I check the open market in here? Well, they're, they have Byron, Sanielson, Power, Dalline, at least four left, at least four lefties. And so if, if Bull wants to get on, you know, onto a maybe a better progression or back to his left side, then that that would make a lot of sense for him. He would be a sought after player for sure. You know what is, there is no wrong in this, by the way, because if their preference is to get to free agency, that's their plan. If Buffalo's plan is not to let players get to free agency, then that's their plan. But I've always found with really good players, and Bull was one of them. And by the way, I thought in the playoffs, he showed a real difference to his game. Like, he's a mature, a matured player at this point. But why do really good players sign extensions one year out? Why wouldn't they wait into the last year of their contract? Everybody makes a big deal, and they tie their pants in a knot when they go, oh, he's in the last year of his contract. Yes, he doesn't have to negotiate July 1st, that's. I think teams jump on that stuff way too early with some players, and then you find, oh, he's got one year plus seven. Yeah. Like, what are they doing? You've now locked yourself in. And so I, again, I could see a couple of teams easily to be very interested in. And looks like, you know, Buffalo and San Jose made that trade yesterday. And so like the, you know, the stuff start and start to happen. And, and Byron would be a really interesting piece to be, to be talked about. I would agree with that. All right. Well, one final player, and that's Vinnie Torechek. Again, not new to speculation, man. This guy and his family have been through it with the New York Rangers for months now, right? Months. So he goes a different direction with his representation and hires Pat Brisson and C.A. Hockey. And it's pretty clear that Brisson is going to try and get Vinnie Torechek moved, okay? So there's, I had one GM today, a Canadian GM, by the way, tell me that he believes that Torechek has all seven Canadian teams on his no trade list. And I don't believe that's true. Or if it is true, there's at least some flexibility from Brisson and Vinnie Torechek to consider all tradable options, right? So, you know, if you're Montreal and you're looking for a veteran center, maybe Zafit Toronto, I know, I've reported on it. They've sniffed around, hey, maybe, maybe the Rangers look at Buffalo. Maybe they want to upgrade their blue line. And there's a fit there, right? With Byron and Torechek and things like that. So does Vinnie Torechek have enough game that you'd be a big time player if you're a general manager in need of a centerman? I guess it depends what you think big time player is. Like, do you think I do believe with Torechek, there's a there's a vision of him being like a second line guy, an 80 point guy, a power play guy. If you look at his statistics, unless I've got them completely wrong and I'm 99% sure I don't, he's about a 60 point centerman. That's kind of his in his wheelhouse in the 55 to 65 points. He's a tremendous face off guy. He plays with energy and bite. And if you're looking at him the right way, I would think he would be interested in him. Right. But I do think there's a chance that a team will will view Torechek in a different light. He's not getting he's not getting younger, of course. He's not a super big guy, but he's really competitive. I think the Rangers have a chance to do pretty well on this. But if you're if you're looking at him at as a top of the lineup guy, he's he's not. He's he's a he's a middle six centerman who will help you in various ways across your lineup for sure. Excellent. You like this time here. I mean, you like it because you're not necessarily on the clock anymore and you control what you do and when you do it, but the speculation, the juice, the high rings, the fire rings, all of that. I don't like this. Yeah, I'll admit it. But yeah, that's that's for you to do and you should chase. I support your chase. I do like the the last couple of days before the draft. That's the stuff that I because there are so much so many things that are talked about. Most of them don't happen, but pretty soon you're like, over, they're going to move a pick or they're going to slide down or they are going to be even a deal like that might not have a you know, this big lamb of the Buffalo deal yesterday. I love that stuff. For sure. So they move they trade a player. They move down seven, they flip pick, but like I love that stuff. And so I do believe I do believe that there'll be a lot of it, but we often think that and it feels now with less of a free agent class that if teams are going to improve, it's going to be through movement. Right. All right, those are your headlines. Thank you to the Canadian brew house. It feels like Tim Hortons has always been part of my routine. Certainly as a dad, you know, as a coach or taking my kids to the early morning hockey's had to go through the drive through and get my cup of coffee and get the tim bits for the kids. Can I get a medium coffee with milk please? Then even driving into studio now at TSN. If I don't go through the drive through, get my medium coffee with milk, I feel like my routine has been interrupted. Thank you. You too. Only way to start a day. Now normally I'd want to shift over to the Tim's hockey challenge and bring in our good buddy, Chris Abunya, but we don't have to do that anymore. The challenge has been completed. So we can just talk about, you've already mentioned you're going to Canada's game, World Cup of Soccer. So that's exciting. And then back in the golf mode, I presume, to drive you into the weekend. Absolutely. You know, we should, we got one last thing to clean up with Tim's challenge. And it's for the, I don't know how many weeks this has been, but Ryan's score stays the same. From our last show to this one. It doesn't change. He picked another loser. I also think it's important to note, and it just came to me as you were taking that job, and we're sure I think our credibility is absolutely in check. It is perfect. I won the regular season. You at least tied for the win, right? The playoff. Yeah, Zubi, Zubi, you, Zubi, you'll win work through the season. He was right up here 30%. Yeah. Really good stuff. Yeah. Let's say how Zubi does next year, because maybe it should be like the Ray, Draggs, and Zubi hockey podcast, if he kicks our arses in the regular season. Now we can't do that. We've got a nice way to do it, guys. Yeah. Yeah. We'd have to change. We'd have to change the logo, the hats and the shirts that we never get, right? That that are supposed to be in manufacturing. And we just never get them. That's like the Ray and Draggs. Merch. We don't have it. No, it must become. It must become if you can put me on camera, Zubi. I got the new haxie in yesterday. So I always look at that. Come in your way shortly. Shortly. Really? What are you driving at, Oat? Come on. Let's get going here. Deli second, man. I'm pointing my truck west. So they'd better be here by then. I need a lot of you know, we got we got some golf tells too and such. And we're mind people too there. There actually is Ray and Draggs merge available on the website. So you can go check that out. They're not necessarily. It's not exactly the same as this. Interesting. But it is there for people. They want to check. I didn't know that. We got lots of we got lots of shows left, though. We got we got a few more. We got to talk about the draft and free agency and all that. So you guys aren't off the hook yet. All right, buddy. I appreciate it.
apparently July 2nd we are because the big family truckster is headed west. Yeah, Ed and that's a story for another day. I'm not going to tell it now, but there's all kinds of issues with highway 83, which takes me to the cabbage. Oh, the bridge. 83 out. It's several months of inconvenience to everybody out there. But I'll bring you up to speed on that as we get closer to July 2nd. All right, buddy, enjoy the soccer match. And we'll check in again early next week. How's that? Perfect. Come on, Canada. This is the one you pushed through with this. Can't wait. Be great. Have fun, everybody. Thanks for listening. Enjoy the weekend. You bet. Thank you to our sponsors who continue to support us here on the Raindra Exaki podcast. Tim Hortons, our title sponsor. Thank you. And thank you to the Canadian Brewhouse. Until next time, stay safe, everybody.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The hosts discuss Tim Hortons' new Tim Bits flavors and a humorous anecdote about eating a 50-pack too quickly.
They share golf updates, including one host’s left-handed putting experiment and another’s frequent play at a local course.
Jim Hiller is hired as head coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs; analysis focuses on his defensive style in LA and potential fit with offensive stars like Auston Matthews.
Vegas Golden Knights promote Ryan Craig to head coach, with GM Kelly McCrimmon defending the team’s aggressive, win-now approach amid criticism.
McCrimmon sarcastically addresses Mark Stone’s back surgery and LTIR controversy, emphasizing the team’s strategic flexibility.
Trade rumors swirl around Winnipeg Jets goalie Connor Hellebuyck after his public dissatisfaction, with potential roster moves to address team needs.
A goalie trade sends Joe Woll to Philadelphia; the hosts debate the early timing and market dynamics.
Summary:
The podcast opens with lighthearted banter about Tim Hortons’ limited-time Tim Bits flavors, including chocolate crème brûlée and cappuccino, leading to a story about devouring a 50-pack during a road trip. The hosts then share golf updates: one struggles with a shoulder injury and has committed to putting left-handed despite skepticism, while the other plays frequently and helps a friend, James Duffy, join a club, sparking playful jealousy from a third person.
Transitioning to NHL news, the hosts analyze Jim Hiller’s hiring as Toronto Maple Leafs head coach. They question whether his defensive, counter-punch system from Los Angeles suits offensive stars like Auston Matthews, though they acknowledge coaches often improve in second stints. In Vegas, Ryan Craig’s promotion is seen as a natural progression after developing in the AHL affiliate Henderson. GM Kelly McCrimmon defends the Golden Knights’ culture, dismissing critics as jealous and highlighting the team’s three Stanley Cup Final appearances in nine years with three different coaches. He sarcastically addresses Mark Stone’s back surgery and LTIR speculation, reinforcing the organization’s unapologetic, plan-driven ethos.
Finally, the hosts discuss Winnipeg Jets’ potential trade of goalie Connor Hellebuyck after his public unhappiness, suggesting the team could leverage his value to address roster gaps. A separate goalie trade sends Joe Woll to Philadelphia, which feels premature given the unclear market. Throughout, the conversation balances humor with sharp hockey analysis.
FAQs
The Raindrags Podcast is presented by Tim Hortons and hosted by Ray and another co-host, featuring discussions on sports and personal stories.
They talked about limited-time Tim Bits flavors like Canadian fireworks, chocolate creme brulee, lime cheesecake, and cappuccino, plus a World Cup team 50-pack bucket.
One host injured his shoulder after hitting balls, while the other committed to putting left-handed despite being a right-handed golfer, which the co-host criticized.
The hosts expressed surprise, noting Hiller’s defensive style in LA and questioning if the hire was influenced by his relationship with Auston Matthews, though they acknowledged coaches often improve in their second stint.
Vegas promoted Ryan Craig, who won a Stanley Cup as an assistant in 2023 and developed as head coach in Henderson, because they were happy with his growth and he knew the organization well.
McCrimmon called critics jealous and uncomfortable with Vegas’ success, emphasizing that the team consistently tries to win the Stanley Cup each year.
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