Chatterbox #352 – Hot hot summer

Hello and welcome to Chatterbox, the QLub series for intermediate to advanced English learners that is designed to help you improve your fluency. My name is Andrew and in just a sec I'll be joined by my co-host Anna and today we are going to talk about the hot hot summer. That's right, if you live in the northern hemisphere then you can relate to us because we have been having a very hot summer indeed. And one that's filled with not only record breaking heat but devastating forest fires and death and it's been a terrible summer so far. Anna and I are going to share our experiences on the ground. Of course she lives in Spain in Madrid. So she'll tell us what it's like in Europe and then of course I'm located in South Korea so I'll be able to fill everybody in on what the situation has been like here in Korea. We'll also talk about our home countries as well. Anna's from the UK which has traditionally a much cooler summer and I'm from Canada which to be honest Canada has pretty rough weather in most parts of the country during most parts of the year. However the summer in Canada is usually amazing and I'll talk a little bit about what summer is like in Canada as well. Now if you spent any time with English native speakers before you'll probably have clued into this fact and that is that we love talking about the weather. So it is one of the most common small talk topics is to chat about the weather and especially complain about the weather. Oh it's been so hot lately or in the winter. Oh it's been so cold lately or it's been so rainy lately. We love complaining about the weather as well and you'll get to hear Anna and I complain about the summer in this episode. We do a lot of it. So I think this is really great listening practice. 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We couldn't do QLUPS without our members so thanks to all the members out there. We really love you guys. Thank you so so much. Alright, I think without any further ado we should get started with this episode in earnest. Let's invite Anna to the conversation now and we'll get started. Here we go. Enjoy. [Music] Joining me now to talk all about summer weather and heat waves is my co-host Anna. Hello Anna. How's it going? How are you holding up this summer so far? Surviving I think is probably the best way to put it as I'm sure anyone that's living in a country with heat waves at the moment could tell you. Surviving. What about you, Andrew? It's a hot one here today Anna. It's been, I mean the summer, we'll get into this in more detail too. The summer in Korea is maybe different than people outside of Asia experience. At least for me it was really shocking as a North American when I came to Korea and experienced an Asian summer for the first time. We just finished the rainy season part of it and now we're into the hot part of it. Survived the rainy season but to be determined if I can make it through the heat that we're now experiencing. Yeah, right exactly. Yes, no it is different. I'll be interested to know a little bit more about that. So that's what we're going to talk about today. Everyone is the summer and the heat waves and how we deal with the heat. Anna maybe we could start with you and get your perspective first. I know here I've heard a lot about European heat waves on the news but I don't pay too much attention to the global news these days. I know that's really bad and I should be paying more attention to it but I see the headlines you know like heat wave in Europe and especially in the UK people going crazy because it's 30 degrees Celsius but I also saw that like in France unfortunately a lot of people passed away because of the heat and I was actually shocked to see how many drownings there were this summer as well because people are going into the ocean and into the sea to cool down and then as a result more people are drowning so that's terrible. Like I've seen these headlines but I don't know too much of the details about things so maybe you could tell us what the situation has been like in Madrid so far this summer. Well I guess I would probably start off by saying I used to when I lived in the UK I used to love summer. Summer was my favourite month. I would always look forward to June July but then now after living in Madrid for nine years I have to say that my favourite month is winter so I definitely do not enjoy the summer as I used to and it's definitely very very different living in a hot country versus coming to a country on holiday and being there for a week or two weeks and it's hot and it's nice because it's a little bit different but it's very very different living in a hot country and in my experience personally I have grown to absolutely dread the summer months and then just at the moment now I'm just looking forward to those months that come in in kind of end of September, October where we're going to get that cooler weather so it is very hot here in Spain at the moment in Madrid and also around Spain because Madrid is right in the middle of the country so there's lots of other parts of Spain too but it's experiencing a big heat wave also as you said in France and also in the UK. A funny thing that I'd like to share too which maybe if you've lived in a cooler country with a milder climate like the UK and then you've moved to a hot country is you kind of adjust so before for example I would have thought that 30 degrees was like super super hot I was like oh my goodness I used to go to the beach bikini weather and now when I look at 30 degrees I think oh that looks really fresh and nice so you know you adjust to something new so it's very hard and the summer started very early here so I don't know about the summer season in Korea and too but it started very early this year so it was started mid-June when we were getting very very high temperatures and I listened to something yesterday which said in Madrid we hadn't had a day that was below the average for about five weeks so it's kind of five weeks of you know constant heat but I will say there is a silver lining to this is that it's dry heat so the climate in Madrid is very dry and I think that does make it slightly more manageable what's the situation over there in in the South Korea and in the South Korea. Well let me just dig in I got a few more questions for you not so fast not so fast okay I want to ask you some more details here when you say like really really hot above the five week average how hot are we talking is it getting to 30 five degrees Celsius to 40 degrees Celsius what's what's it looking like on a day-to-day basis for the actual temperature. A really hot day would be 40 degrees and if you have 40 degrees consecutively that's when it's really tricky because there's no respite right sometimes you get some hot weather but then you have a cooler day and it gives a chance for everyone to just refresh a little bit and have some cooler air but this is the point where you have like 3940 38 39 40 38 39 40 and you're just like oh I get this when is this when is this going to end so that's what we're talking about in terms of temperature there but I suppose if we were in a humid climate and it was 39 degrees that would feel much more suffocating so I do think the silver lining is that Madrid is a dry climate so that does make it slightly easier I think to manage but still difficult but easier let's say. Yeah I saw some people debating this on Reddit recently when talking about the summer season around the world and the people were saying that summer in these drier climates is like being in an oven and in the more humid climates it's like being in a sauna so they're both extremely uncomfortable but quite quite different so yeah that's that's really hot and yeah well maybe we'll move on to talking about how we deal with it. with the heat and how we handle it but 35 to 40 degrees is quite hot. Here in Korea, like I said, we just finished the rainy season. It was a little bit later this year than it usually is, so it was shorter because of that. But what happens during the rainy season is that probably not every day, but probably four days a week, I would say, maybe about four days a week. It will rain quite substantially for part of the day. It doesn't usually rain all day long, but there were a couple of days this rainy season where it did rain all day, every day, and that's just a crazy amount of rain. And I had to readjust what I thought rain was when I came to Korea because my conception of rain living in Canada as a Canadian was like, oh, it's just like a little gentle shower, like not a huge torrent. But here in Korea, during the rainy season, when it's raining, I mean, it's raining. We'll get like, I think 60, 70, 80 millimeters of rain within a 24-hour period, which maybe doesn't seem like much, but I mean, it's almost like the same as your shower in the bathroom, I think. It's just like this tremendous amount of water that falls from the sky. And because of that, it can cause flooding, it can cause a lot of damage, and it can be quite dangerous as well. There were stories of people having to be rescued because they got washed away, a place where I go running quite often. One of the local Riverside trails here in Seoul was completely flooded. I saw it on the news, and all of the running trails were underwater, and the water was coming up onto the highway, and it just looked like a mess. So yeah, a big amount of water falls during the rainy season. And at the same time, even though it's rainy, you would maybe expect it to be cool and refreshing, but it's not at all. It's humid, it's moist, it's just disgusting. So the rainy season sucks. And what really sucks is like, if you're walking, if you get caught outside without your umbrella, you're in big trouble because it's so humid that nothing will dry, right? So if you were to, I don't know, be caught outside without an umbrella, and all of your clothes got wet, like it would be really hard for them to dry again. They're going to stay damp all day. So I have this rainy season wardrobe. Maybe I could say of just wearing these shoes that are kind of like crocs. They're not crocs, but they're similar to them. I think most people know what crocs are. These kind of rubbery plastic shoes, and I can just wear those barefoot so that if I do get caught out in the rain, then I'm not going to get into too much trouble. So that's my rainy season wardrobe. And yeah, thankfully the rainy season has passed. And now we're into part two of the summer, which is heat. And it's, it's much hotter. I think today is around 33 degrees Celsius. And I saw tomorrow is going to get up to 38 degrees Celsius. The Korean weather forecasters are notoriously incorrect. So hopefully they are incorrect and it's not quite that hot. But then you add on this huge amount of humidity as well. And it's just, I hate it. I'm like you Anna. You said that you used to love summer. And now you don't like it. I'm in the same way. In Canada, I love summer. It's my favorite season. Hands down, bar none, but here in Korea, it's just like it's terrible. So it's tough. And I have got maybe a slightly personal question for you. You can dodge this one as much as you'd like. But me personally in the hot weather, I'm a super sweater. I sweat really easily when it's hot. And when you add the humidity on top of that, it's terrible because I can't dry down. I can't dry off. My body starts sweating to try and cool me down. And then it's so humid that it can't cool down and it can't dry off. And so I feel like I've been walking around just wet for like the last month. It's absolutely terrible. I'm wondering about you. I know the dry heats maybe a little bit better for that. But what's your experience? I think it's just what saves us here is that it's a dry heat because it just makes life so much easier. Yes, it's hot. And yes, you can get like it's really uncomfortable to walk outside. And this is the thing is that when you actually live here versus when I used to go on holiday, for example, when I would come on holiday to these hot countries, I'd be going out. I'd be doing things in the hot weather. But when you actually live here, what you actually find is you end up being inside a lot in the air con or away from the sun. So it actually kind of ends up being a little bit like winter because well, actually, I would say I go out more in winter than I do in summer, which is kind of counter-intuitive. But it's just because it's so, so incredibly hot. But yes, of course, if you walk around, it can be very uncomfortable. And you know, I would not walk around the city, for example, which is something I really like to do at like three, four, five in the afternoon. It would just be horrible. And you would just end up looking an absolute mess. But it is true that it's dry climate. And I have to say that that it is better and it's much better for the hair as well. If anyone's listening to this and you have concerns about hair too, you know, a humid climate would not be very good for my hair, but a dry climate works just well. So yeah, it's it's it's it's just pros and cons, right? I think I prefer living in Madrid than for example, somewhere like Valencia, which is in Spain and it's on the coast, which is very humid. I actually had a friend come here and she said, Oh goodness, it's so much nicer here because it's not humid. So I'm going to take that as a positive point. But it's funny that, you know, strategies like I said is you actually end up going out less than in winter, I would say. And also one of the things that you have to do, and I remember somebody telling me a story about this, is when they moved here and they were during the summer summer days, they were like opening all the windows and they had all of the blinds up and they were like, Oh, I need to get the air in here so that it's fresh. Well, anyone that's lived in a hot country knows that that's exactly the opposite of what you do. You shut the blinds, you shut the windows, no sunlight because sunlight equals heat. So you have to be very, very careful with that during the day to make sure that you're, you know, your flat or your house doesn't, you know, the heat in your house doesn't go kind of crazy. So which is interesting. It's kind of dark at the moment here, for example, I'm recording this. I've got all my blinds of my windows shut. And as soon as it gets to about nine o'clock in the morning, after opening the windows all night to get that kind of cool, then you have to shut them down and until the evening. So these are kind of the strategies about surviving in the summer, which I think is just so interesting because I used to love summer and be very active in summer, but now it's more a case of hiding away. Hoping that it passes quickly. Hearing you say that Rement reminded me of when I visited Madrid, and I stayed at an Airbnb there. And the apartment was quite dark. Like it had these shutters on the windows to keep all of the light out. And it was a nice place, but I felt like, well, it's a little dark in here, but I guess that's why, right? Is like you need to block the sunlight from coming in so that your place doesn't heat up. And I know that in Europe, there's kind of a debate about air conditioning, right? A lot of places don't have air conditioning or don't use air conditioning. And I believe Anna, you're in that boat, right? You don't have an air conditioner in your place. Is that by choice or is that something that maybe you would like to get an air conditioner in the future? What's your thoughts about air conditioning? Well, it's a really good question. And I think people might be surprised if you're listening to this and maybe you live in the United States, for example, where air conditioning is just completely widespread and it's just something that's mainly accepted. As far as I'm aware, maybe I'm wrong with that, but I think it's quite widespread in comparison to places in Europe. And then, you know, other places like, I don't know, the United Aberde, Arab Emirates, you know, they have to have air conditioner everywhere because it's incredibly hot in the summer, much hotter than here. But yeah, I think I heard a statistic the other day that said that around 40% of people in Spain had air conditioning. So that's actually not the majority. And there's plenty of people like me that don't have it. And it's partly because a living in older building, so the flat where I am, it's a little bit older, so they didn't install air conditioning initially. All new builds would have air conditioning, so there's no question about that. And then when I moved here, I was, I just liked the flat so much that I kind of just went for it, and I moved here in March when it was very cold. So I wasn't necessarily thinking about, oh, well, I should probably think if it has air conditioning and that should definitely be a non-negotiable, I will say that going forward any future flat or apartment or house that I live in will have air conditioning. I would like to say that I'm, you know, don't want aircon and I don't like it in the sense that I think it can be quite unhealthy. Lots of people get colds and it can spread bacteria and things like that. like this, I don't think it's healthy, but it's true that in order to kind of keep a level of productivity and just survival during the summer, it's very handy. But there are things you can do, for example. I have a lot of fans, very strategically placed fans and very good fans, and that does make a big, big, big difference. And I can just about survive with that. But I think the thing is in the future, as the world is teething up, you know, they predict that in, I can't remember when, but they predicted it's going to get much hotter in places like Spain. I really don't know what people will do without Aircon actually, because I think then at that point, it would become almost unlippable, because it's the sleep deprivation that's the big problem. It's the sleep, it's because you just cannot sleep when it's hot. And so what it means is you end up having about three months of the year where your sleep is just absolutely destroyed. And you know, sleep deprivation is a torture. Torture technique, so it's not pleasant. And I would say that's the biggest impact. It's a sleep deprivation. - Okay. Yeah, that is quite interesting. I know here in Korea, most people, I would say, I mean, I don't have the statistics for it, but I would say most people do have air conditioning. We have just a little house, and we have two air conditioners. We have one, which I actually just had to turn it on as we were recording, and I'm sorry, but it was so hot in my little room here that I had to turn it on. But we have one in my little bedroom here, and then one in our living room, and we've been using it during the daytime, but we always turn it off at night. We feel like the home cools down enough by the night with the air gone on that we can just strategically place some fans and keep it cool enough. Like, I think it's comfortable for my wife to sleep, but still a little bit too hot for me, but not enough to really damage my sleep. So yeah, that's tough at night when you can't fall asleep because it's so hot. Do you have a lot of fans in your bedroom to try and cool things down so that you can get some sleep? - Well, what you have to do is, as I said before, you have to strategically place them so that the air moves through the flat. So not necessarily facing me on me, which I find really, I don't know, if you're listening to this and you also have fans, I can't sleep with a fan pointed at me. I just can't do that. But yeah, you have to place them strategically in the house so it's moving air through the flat during the night, and that kind of gets the hot air out of the flat and just gives you a little bit of fresher air, but I mean, it's not like, it's not like you wake up and there's a fresh breeze, but it's just a little bit cooler than it is during the day. So yeah, it's just these little survival techniques that you pick up and you learn lots of water. That's another huge tip, lots and lots of water, and it really does make a difference actually to how you feel the heat in your body. It's, well, water is a cooling, they use it as a cooling system for many different types of things, but it's also a cooling system for your body. So a huge amount of water, my whole fridge is just filled up with bottles of water, chilled, ready to go. That's another big survival tip. - Yeah, definitely, got to stay hydrated. One thing that I end up having to do during the summer, just out of necessity, as I said, I'm a super sweater in this weather. So I have a dog, my dog refuses to do her business inside. We always have to take her outside. So that means minimum three times a day, I have to take my dog outside, well, my wife helps as well. So one of us, or both of us are out two to three times a day because of the dog, plus we like to get some exercise and run errands and do our daily life things, right? So we're in and out of the home many times during the day, but because it's so humid here and because I'm a super sweater, like every time I go outside and then come back, even if I'm only outside, I think I timed it the other day. I have about six minutes before I start sweating through my t-shirt. It's a very small amount of time that I have to stay dry here in this climate. It's insane. And so because of that, it means I have to take a shower like three or four times a day and it also means I have to change my clothes three or four times a day. It's just ridiculous. So unfortunately, I think a lot of us, we are aware that probably a lot of this climate change is caused by some of the actions we're doing, like running our air conditioning often, like running the washing machine and this kind of thing as well, right? Like our consumption has consequences. However, it's almost inescapable. I don't know what to do as a result of this weather, unless I only stay inside, but that's impossible because of the dog. I gotta go outside. I gotta live life outside sometimes. So yeah, it means that I do have to have quick showers to cool down. The nice thing is I can just put it on 100% as cold as it will go and just jump in for 30 seconds and then it's finished, right? It's a really quick shower, but yeah, the clothes thing, I do have to do laundry way more and yeah, it's tough. So it's one of the downsides of summer for sure. - That reminds me actually talking about laundry. One of the other massive upsides about the heat wave is you literally wash something and you put it outside and it's dry in like 30 minutes, especially because it's a dry climate here as well. So it's just like, you wash anything and it's ready and like half an hour and not only is it ready, but it's so dry that it almost goes like stiff. Does that make sense? Because the clothes are like so incredibly bone dry. So that's another big plus. That's forgotten about that. But yes, cold showers also as well. That's another key strategy and tip. And I do do that about halfway through the day normally when I'm getting a bit sluggish. I'll just kind of have a shower, just to wake me back up again and push through the remainder of the day. But yeah, the heat is, as I said, living in a hot country is very different than going on, going going to it on holiday. And I have to say that I really enjoy going back to the UK to Scotland especially. And everybody there is like, it's 20 degrees and they're like, oh my goodness, it's so hot and they've got bikinis and flip flops on and they're all sunbathing outside. And I'm there in a jacket in a trench coat. So I've definitely readjusted my scale of what's hot. Well, it's weird. I do think our bodies adjust to the heat. Like, as listeners know, my hobby is running. So I'm running all the time, even if it's the rainy season, as long as the trail is open, then I'm out there running. And even during this hot, disgusting humid weather, I'm out there running. And so at first, it's a real shock to the system, right? As soon as it starts to get hot and humid, you feel like, I can't do this, it's so hot, it's like such just a huge adjustment for your body to deal with this increased stress of handling the heat and the humidity. But now that I've been doing it through the summer so far, it feels great. Like, I feel like I can run in the heat and run in the humidity. The only difference is I'm drenched. I'm soaking wet, but I can do it fine. And my body's not resisting that. So I do think definitely there is the capacity for our bodies to adjust to hot conditions. And probably you've been heat adjusted to Spain. So yeah, going back home, I imagine would feel like winter almost, like when you go back. - Oh yeah, right, yeah, it's beautiful. - My hometown in Canada sounds a lot like Spain. And when I go back to Kelona, my hometown is called Kelona. When I go back there in the summer, it gets quite hot. It can get between 30 and on an extreme day, like upper 30s, but probably around 30 degrees would be the average. Just perfect, in my opinion. You get a lot of clear days, not any cloudy weather, just beautiful sunshine. We have a huge lake in the middle of the city. So it's great for swimming and water sports. And it's just to me the ideal climate. So I love summer back in my hometown. But of course, I get none of those things here in Korea, which is why I mourn for the summer. I mourn that I lost that back in Canada. It's so great in the summer. But I'm wondering what are some of the things that are different, like between a summer in Scotland and a summer in Spain, for example? - Oh, I mean, it's like being on another planet. I mean, summer in Scotland is just, you can get some nice weather in Scotland in summer. And actually the past few years, the summer has been really nice. So you can get some lovely days, but it's never really gonna pass 20 degrees, 23 degrees, 25 maybe at a push. So I mean, that for me is just enjoyable. You can be outside. It's not like you're gonna burn to a crisp. It's enjoyable. It's nice. It's beautiful. Whereas here, it's also blue skies, but it's just so unpleasant to be outside and just so incredibly hot. So I would say that the summer is in the UK are much more enjoyable actually, which is crazy really to hear me saying that. If I told you that 10 years ago, you would have thought I was mad when I was living in the UK, but you kind of always want what you don't have, I think also as well. So I would love to just nip over to Scotland for a few months of the year and then come back to Madrid for the autumn. winter, but maybe in the future, who knows? That would be an ideal, an ideal year. Yeah, yeah. This is one of the few years where I've stuck around in Korea all summer, at least for the last little while. I've usually dipped away for a little bit during the summer, but this year I'm planning to stay here all summer, and yeah, I do miss some of the other climates that I usually enjoy during the summer. And one thing about my hometown in the summer is that usually we get smoke from forest fires. So there was, when I was in high school in 2001, I guess 2001, there was a massive forest fire in my hometown, and it burnt up like half of the city and caused an incredible amount of damage and just really bad smoke were located in a valley in my hometown. So all of the smoke it stuck in the valley, we had terrible air conditions that summer and subsequent summers. Since then, there's usually either a fire that breaks out somewhere near my hometown or could even be hundreds of kilometers away, but because Canada has so much forest and just wilderness, some of those fires get to be massive and the smoke will blow into the valley and create just really, really smokey conditions. So even though the weather's great, even though the temperature's great, you'll be dealing with smoke. It's like, I mean, last summer was great. This summer has also been pretty good, but there has been some smoke this summer. I've also seen on the news that there are massive wildfires in Europe as well. So I'm wondering, have you been affected by any of the smoke or any of those fires at all? Yeah, unfortunately, there was a really big wildfire near Bordeaux in France, and then also there were some wildfires into the west of Madrid, which were very bad. They were the biggest wildfires that Spain's ever had actually. Yes, it was affected. So when it happened, I was in Madrid, luckily I'm not personally affected, and thankfully nobody so far as I'm aware has passed away or died, but people's lives have been completely destroyed. Their houses have just been burned and they've got nothing left, which is just kind of unimaginable to think about really. But yeah, we were affected by the smoke. So on the, one of the first days that it really, the fire really started to get going. And of course, it depends on the wind direction, right? So sometimes the wind would blow the smoke towards the city, and then it would blow it away from the city, probably a bit like with your town, Andrew, right? It really dependent on the wind direction. And on one of the days, it was blowing this big plume of smoke right over the city. And by plume of smoke, I mean, it was like the sky was blue, and then it was gray, like it was really a very dense plume. But I mean, nothing compared to what people were experiencing, who were much closer to the fire, which was really heavy, polluted air. So yeah, that's the first time I've actually really experienced that. But you have to have all the windows shut because it's really bad to breathe in that type of air. It has very tiny sort of micro particles and very toxic. So you had to be really careful with that. But yeah, there was a big plume of smoke. I don't think I've ever really been in a situation like that before or been in a wildfire. But it just goes to show, I mean, as they said, that wildfires are becoming more intense as time goes on. I mean, that's another tropical together. But yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was really bad. And I think they've managed to get it more or less under control now. But there will be, I'm sure more wildfires, I saw in Greece as well, and more in Spain too. So I think it's something that's always affected places like Spain, but definitely something that's getting worse as time goes on. Yeah, maybe we can record a whole other episode of a wildfires because my neck of the woods in Canada has definitely suffered a lot from them. So my heart goes out to all of the people in Europe affected by those wildfires. I know the damage they can cause, and it's just devastating. So yeah, terrible, terrible to hear about that news. But Anna, we've been kind of doom and gloom this episode complaining about summer all episode long. And I will just say one good thing here to maybe end this episode and wrap things up. One, we'll finish on a high point. And that high point is that this year, the mosquitoes in Seoul have been non-existent. I don't think I've had one mosquito bite this year so far. I don't know what happened. I know the government does a bunch of different like spraying and they try and kill the mosquito eggs and they do all of these different things to try and control the mosquito population. But I guess they nailed it this year because I haven't seen a mosquito. I haven't been bitten by mosquito. And that's just like, it's usually the cherry on top, right? It's like hot. It's rainy. It's humid. And then you're trying to sleep and you can't sleep because it's hot. And then there's a mosquito in your room. Or just when you fall asleep, you'll get bitten by the mosquito and it will wake you up. But this year, not a mosquito insight. So I'm very happy about that. A little good news to end the episode. Yeah. Every cloud has its overlining. Fantastic. No mosquitoes. Yes. They carry out these types of things here. But that's good. We'll leave it on that note. We'll leave it on a positive note. All right. Well, Hannah, thank you so much for the conversation. And stay cool. Okay. All right. You too, Andrea. Speak to you soon. Bye-bye. Well, that brings us to the end of this episode, everyone. I hope you enjoyed listening to Hannah and I talk all about what the summer situation is like for us where we live. But of course, we want to know about you too. How have you been dealing with the summer weather? Or if you're located in the southern hemisphere, how have you been dealing with the winter? This winter, let us know on our Discord community. It is the place where QLIP listeners from around the world gather, we hang out and we practice our English together. 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