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Chase Stokes Interview: Saying Bye to Outer Banks, Navigating the Public Eye + Life Before Fame

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Chase Stokes Interview: Saying Bye to Outer Banks, Navigating the Public Eye + Life Before Fame

In this episode of *Chicks in the Office*, hosts Ria and Fran kick off with a Monday energy update, noting they’re out of New York City for the week and excited about their studio renovation. They recap a rainy weekend that disrupted plans but led to a fantastic Jonas Brothers concert on Friday, where they enjoyed the nostalgia of the Burning Up tour, complete with Joe Jonas’s new growl and fan interactions. The main highlight is their interview with Chase Stokes, their last guest in the old studio, who discussed the end of *Outer Banks* after seven years, his journey from a broke actor with $30,000 in credit card debt to stardom, and his habit of shaving his head after each season to shed the character. He shared heartfelt moments, like a tearful goodbye with co-stars Drew and JD, and a funny story about getting in trouble in Barbados during quarantine. The hosts also cover *Dancing with the Stars* cast announcements, praising the range from Julia Stiles to Conor Leavitt, and gush over Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi’s public romance, rejecting PR speculation. In the Weekly Watch Report, they grade shows like *Surviving Barstool*, *Outer Banks*, *Lanterns*, and rewatches of *La La Land* and *Tony*, mixing humor with genuine recommendations. The episode blends pop culture commentary, personal anecdotes, and an exclusive, heartfelt interview, ending with excitement for future projects.

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We had a bit of, you know, just a little bit of a rainy weekend. And now the sun is shining gorgeous, so I'm excited to have this week. I'm up on the vineyard. You guys are also all away as well. So we're, we're, this is good. This is the, you know, end of August. Soak it in. Soak in these last few moments. Right. We have a poetic guest on today's episode. Our last guest in the old studio. We're, it's the same room. We're just redoing it. But it felt pretty, you know, full circle poetic to have John B. himself, Chase Stokes, come in, re-hang up that sign that we took down that said, I would die for John B. And then that'll be the last of that sign in general, because everything is getting taken off the walls and it's all being redone. Yes. Yes. Everything is being redone. We did have him sign it though, so we are keeping it. Yes. We're definitely keeping the sign. It'll be memorabilia. And we had such a great time with him. I think it's such a great, a great interview. Great interview. And really, I'm really happy that he came on, which is so awesome. So everyone could look forward to that at the end of, at the end of today's episode. I did tell him at the end of the interview that like, I was moved by some stories he had told me on the Netflix Outer Banks podcast. Some of those stories didn't make it in. So it might sound odd when I say that. And I'm not going to reshare his stories because I don't know why they weren't put in or whatever. But he really did tell me some, some really touching stories that I genuinely teared up at. And they were just really wholesome and nice. And I'm not going to repeat them, but I ended up telling him that at the end of this interview. So if that sounds odd, just know that it just was not included. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's so fair. I also just love when someone can be self-aware, you know? Yes. Absolutely. Just especially a celebrity when they're like, you know, I get, I get it guys. Like I, I totally understand. And that's how he is, which is fantastic. It's a good quality to have. It's, it's amazing. And you, you know, you just never know because we get on here and we talk our shit and you do it for fun. But then you realize, oh my God, these people, they, they do see it. Of course. Yeah. But when you're, you normally you're not in the same room as the people afterwards. Then when you are, you're like, whoop. Right. But there are so, he's so cool. He's so chill. He really is fantastic. So everyone can look forward to that. Yeah. Interview at the end of today's episode. Yeah. It was a bit of a rainy. We always are. We can't, there's no way around it. There's like no way around it. There's no way around it. And also like the rain really dictated a lot of your plans that you had been talking about. At the end of last week. So like we have to talk about it because that, that sent everything off the rails. Right. Well, I, well, I was going to have a big night on Thursday night and it got moved to Friday night because of, uh, honestly it was really scary. There was some really terrible, uh, torrential downpour. There was like a fricking tornado in Atlantic beach on long Island. Like things I actually feel very, um, sorry for a lot of people who their things got wrecked that night. That is, it's, it was very scary and it seemingly came out of nowhere. Yeah. Uh, from my point of view. Um, so that was dangerous. And so we stayed in, but had a great fricking night on Friday. Just danced my little ass off and had so much fun. Um, had some friends come over on Saturday as well. So it was nice. Great weekend. Yeah, that's, it's lovely. We left, we left Friday morning to get up here post Jones brothers. But my God was even like trying to get to, to MSG was like, I, I don't live that far and I couldn't justify getting in like a $75 Uber because all the price surges to go meet my sister for a drink before. And we actually went to a place that's right across the street from the office. So I was like, all right, I'm going to make a mad dash to the subway. It's like one stop. Like I can, I can do this. No. And we were in full glam because Haley did our makeup because we were doing photo shoot. And I was, I mean, talk about wet rat. Like I couldn't believe it. I, I full glam and like I had my hair looks so nice. It was curled. It was down and I had an umbrella and I didn't, I was not outside for that long. It did not matter. I was soaked. My hair didn't dry. My feet didn't dry like all night, but my, my socks were still wet by the time I got home from the concert. Like it just, I like looked in the mirror. I was like, wow, God damn it. Like, what the fuck am I supposed to do about this? Um, there wasn't much, it was just a wet rat situation. And then like, it's, that's having full glam. Like having eyelashes on and then seeing yourself like that. You're like, I just am not liking what I, what I am seeing. Uh, but other than, other than that, it was great. The Jonas Brothers concerts from this past week. I can't stop watching videos. I can, I knew this was going to happen that I was going to go down a wormhole of just rewatching their videos all weekend long because Joe is doing this new thing when he sings burning up. Which is, uh, like a growl. Yeah. And Nick's face is so fucking funny in this one video where he's like, all right, we're doing it again because he originally did it with a cowboy hat like two weeks ago and he's kept it up. I think it sounds phenomenal. I think it sounds so good and it's becoming the new red dress in my opinion. Like, I think it's like, I am, oh, but you don't. Like, I can't. Stop. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's so good. I have been eating these fricking videos up. So how was it being there in person? It was awesome. Uh, full, like goosebumps, the whole, it was so funny. My, we did the whole first set and then they do an intermission and they come out and sing more songs. But Gia was like, it's her mission. Like she had no idea there was a whole second actress. I was whole. Cause they do the whole burning up tour, that whole set first. But like same thing. Same opening, that same song. They come out with the fire. It just really, it really took you back. They did fake us out on the flips. Uh, they, they, they're doing this whole fake out thing and then they're going, ha ha, not doing it. However, Kevin does his guitar spin, which everyone knows and loves. There are a ton of like nods to the, to that tour, the burn up water drums. Just a lot of fun stuff that they, that, that they brought back. And then in the second set, it's so fun because they each play, they always, they, they got like the jealous and cake by the ocean. The ones that they always play. I've been cracking up because all the Jonas fans are, have been kind of like tweeting and posting on social, like the Jonas brothers can play the same show for the next 20 years. And my ass will be at every single one of them. Like, and some people love. That second set list, like just the songs that they picked, I'd love to have them mix it up a little bit, but, um, obviously their choice and I, and I love all of them and it's hard to cut any of them really, but seeing them sing changing, which is Kevin Jonas's song, the three of them together. Oh my God. My heart. It was so sweet. I loved every, every second of it. It was so cute. There's one moment that Nick went, come on K2. And I went, oh, I. I legit have a toxic relationship with them because I was talking to all this smack last week about how they always do this with the tour, but we're going to eat it up every time. I'm getting tickets to the new workshop. Like I have to go. I can't stop watching videos of them. I do want to say that, um, so my dad was unfortunately in the hospital all last week, um, but he's home now. So I feel better talking about it. Um, and he's, he's going to be all right. But, uh, he was a little out of it and he, I called him on Friday and I was like, Oh, how you doing? He's like, you know, I, I started watching this new show, uh, married to Jonas. I'm like new show. He said, yes. So I watched this new show married to Jonas. I didn't know they had a reality show. I saw it on me and I said, I'll watch a couple episodes. And my God, it's so good. And, and I know that Dan, yo God, they're so mean to my dad. You know, this show came out 2012. Get the fuck out of here. My mom in the background, I told you it was old. I told you, uh, I w so then we stopped home on Sunday to see him. And I secretly recorded him talking about the show to Jonas. Okay. Yeah. So we'll, we'll see. Yeah. Years ago, Kevin Jonas. Oh yes, we did. The white, uh, sweet years ago. Yeah. So it was so mean to her. Yeah. She's really sweet. I feel like I'm so ugly. I feel, you know, everyone tells me how ugly I am and I'm a gold digger and I'm this and I don't blame her. I don't blame her. That's what they say about me. They made her do a photo shoot, a cover of, uh, lifestyle or something with the Hamptons. And she, she did it and she looked beautiful in it. And she was like, I don't look good enough. They're going to, they're going to criticize me. I'm not good enough for you. I mean, what a way to have to live this poor girl. I was like, but they're still together. So he just went on and on. Oh my goodness. There's more, but he's like, you know, I watched these three episodes. My whole opinion changed about them. What, what great, what a great guy Kevin is. Look, I think he came out in 2012. Danielle's family is, is right up his alley. You know, they're all a bunch of New Jersey Italians. I was like, oh, he, you know, he, I think in this, hold on. I have, I wanted to play the second part. Hold on. You're beautiful to me. He's telling him, I don't care what anyone says, you know? I mean, like he was just. Kevin is a really sweet guy. I like my whole opinion of him and, and the thing just changed. Like watching that, I watched three episodes. Why didn't you watch it on E? It was on E. I woke up at two in the morning the other day with high blood pressure. I couldn't fall asleep. Woke up two in the morning with high blood pressure. High blood pressure. Couldn't sleep. I'm in the hospital. I couldn't sleep when I'm married to Jonas. Married to Jonas is playing on E at two in the morning. It kind of made me want to watch though. Cause I've actually never watched it. Oh, it's, it's great, but you can feel the tension. You can certainly feel the tension. And I was laughing. Cause there are some things too, that I think the fans laugh when they see Nick, like when Nick doesn't do the red dress line, I, I I'm like this. He should be doing it every time. And you're doing the burning up tour all over again. It is literally the burning up tour all over again. Saying the damn line. You're selling all the merch. You got red dress on everything. He doesn't, he doesn't do it. He doesn't do it every time. I've okay. That's ridiculous. I've all weekend. He did it though. No, he did it. Well, he did it the first time when they played it, but they played burning up twice on Thursday. Because big Rob, something happened with big Rob. Not sure what, but they played it again. So that big Rob could come out and sing it. And that's how they ended the show. He did not do it the second time, which fine. Like it's the second time. And then I think maybe last or Saturday night, I feel like maybe Joe did it. I saw a clip of, of if he didn't fully do it or not, but on other tours, he hasn't fully done it. But I'm just saying for this tour, he should be doing it every single time. Absolutely. It is like, there's, it is a burning up tour. I was so, I, G and I were very close, uh, as well. And I did not bring a sign just because one, it would have gone absolutely soaked. There was no way of, there was no way of, of making that, of making that work. Um, and was trying to just draw less attention to myself. However, Gia did wave to Joe and he waved back. I think he's, he, I think he clocked both of us in waves. So sweet. And then towards the end of the show, Nick, so like eyes locked, like, you know, no, zero reaction. I, this could all be in my head, but I'm like, this sounds like me being like John Mayer. He was looking right at me. Nick locks eyes with Fran and runs off stage and hides. Yes. Yes. Like, here's the thing. I, when he locks eyes with Fran and then locked eyes with a security guard. If it, if Gia wasn't right next to me being like, he's looking right at us, but there's no, you, you get no reaction out of him. He is like stone cold. Yeah. He's all business. All business. I was crying, laughing at Joe Jonas announcing a pregnancy that did not exist. Yeah. Unreal. The TikTok video that he made being like, got on the phone. Whole thing. It was just that they're going to a second concert. Yeah. But I'm with him and the rest of the people that are like, what a weird sign to, to be like, who's going to tell my husband we're going round two. Yeah. Like I, yeah. Her husband wasn't even there. Right. Also feel like she kind of had some time to clarify. Right. You know, just like she could have been screaming, like, I'm not pregnant. Like this isn't just really let it ride. So funny. That wasn't it. That would be a quite an interesting one to explore. I'm a little upset because my friends were there Friday night and they wanted them to do their gender reveal and they made big signs. You could see them. They had posted a video on social. Joe had commented. It's like Joe has seen it. But then they didn't do it. I was like, guys, come on. And like, very, very cute. They had a little girl who was assigned about the Disney, your favorite Disney characters. And I said, any, any excuse to mention that they're Disney legends now? And they couldn't do the gender reveal. Damn. I was also laughing because it was like the first night they really came out all the same outfits. But Joe just like cut the sleeves off of everything. Like Joe went sleeveless in the in the neon shirt. He went sleeveless in the burning up T-shirt. And that gave me a good giggle because like as the nights progressed, because Kevin and Kevin and Nick did not. But as the nights progressed, I was like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. As the nights progressed, they were like, well, we're faking our fucking sleeves off. You hear all them screaming for Joe. Joe's got his guns out. We're all covered up. Honestly, by Saturday, everyone's everyone was sleeveless. Good. Good. Because they all work too hard for those muscles to keep them contained. Exactly. And Kevin's like working hard in the gym. Kevin's jacked. So I'm like, wear that vest with the with a sleeveless top underneath. I did not know they allowed guns into MSG. I thought there was tighter security, but they were all over. The place, they were all over the place, all over the place. But that was so fun. I do love when they do the fan requests with the signs and stuff. It is really it's it's very, very cute. And you get to hear some good, some good songs. And they sing that little girl requested tantrum, which, you know, is one you wouldn't think that they would sing live. But they did, which was so fun. And yeah, I think everybody got really excited for this whole tour. It was like, this is going to be sick. Me included. Let's run it back, boys. I'm so glad you did this. Yep. See you in December for the holidays. Yes, of course, of course. All right, let's get into the rest of today's show. Just some quick updates for the topic. Some Dancing with the Stars contestants confirmed. And we just have to talk about Jacob Lorde and Kendall Jenner because my God, what a stunning couple. We have the Weekly Watch Report and we have an amazing interview with Chase Stokes. So let's get into it. Truly isn't just about drinking. It's about letting loose and being your real, truly self. You can get the fun, refreshing fruit flavors in a bubbly style. They are super light and refreshing by design to keep the fun going with your friends. Only one gram of sugar and 100 calories. So it's great for day drinking without all the heaviness from other drinks. 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Now, listen, I can't believe that Conor is actually doing this. And I think there is a lot of discussion. I think there is a lot of discussion. Yeah. Around we didn't know this was going to become like relatives of stars that have been on Dancing with the Stars, Dancing with the Stars. But this is the game that they're going to play these days now because you've got a lot of traction on social media. You have the reality shows coming in. Sarah Jane Nader will be partnered up with another female pro. I think that's very exciting. She is very entertaining. And Conor is entertaining as well. I think it was more just like a confusing, like, okay, we're going down this path. On the other side of that, Julia Stiles, what a pull. What a pull. This is a huge one. Here's the thing, because I've been going back and forth on this. Because in my mind, this show is so popular right now. I'm like, they could be casting the top of the top. But at the same time, I respect that they're still kind of sticking to the formula and doing what has always made the show fun. Because all the past seasons, this is sort of the formula that they would use. And at the same time, I see people on TikTok complaining about it's all under the Disney umbrella. They're just casting people that are also Disney, ABC, Hulu, the whole thing. I'm like, that's like, it's like always been a thing. And there have been some people that have been cast on this show that you're like, star? That's just the way it has always gone. I was very surprised by Conor. I really did not think that that was going to happen. But like I said, they keep it under, they keep it under the umbrella. Because it's like, whatever, you know, on one hand, you got Conor Leavitt. On the other hand, you're getting Julia Stiles. So it's like, you get the range. And that's what makes the season so good is because you have people from all different levels of fame. And I saw the jokes of, oh, like you said, the casting people's spouses or siblings and people were referencing back to Dylan Efron. It was like I had never done TV before. And they were like, oh, Zach Efron's brother. You've never, you've never met him before, but he's on Dancing with the Stars. Well, also Zach Efron's never been on Dancing with the Stars. Yes. This is, this is different because I think people have already been on it. People have been on it. And then just people related to them. So it's kind of like, wait, what? I understand people's confusion. I do. Yeah. 100%. When the season starts though, I think we're just going to be like, this is great and entertaining. And we got people all over the map here. Um, and like you said, we got, we're going from Julia Stiles to Connor Levitt. And I think, you know what? That covers all the bases. It covers a lot. Uh, so you know what? I'm just excited for the season. They gotta be kind of pissed. This is all coming out, huh? Like I feel like we have the whole cast at this point. Who's leaking all this? Who's left? By the way, who do you think Sarah Jane Nader is going to be paired up with? I was thinking, if it was Daniella, that would be, I was going to say Daniella, that would be insane, but I feel like it could maybe be Riley. That's going to be Riley or if that's going to be my prediction. Do you think if they had Haley bills come in, they would maybe have Haley. I could definitely see that too. I, yeah. I'm just thinking like younger. Yeah, no, for sure. That's why I was kind of leaning towards Riley and for that too. Um, but it is, it is fun and different. And I think people saw what Jojo Jojo see when Jenna did. And I'm sure like the other female pros would be like, Oh, that would be sick to get to do that. So I feel like they would all be down to do it. I don't even know why I'm trying like really. Or I think, I think Emma would also be amazing with that, but really my thought is, my thought is probably Riley. Who is Guillermo dancing with again? Whitney, Whitney, Whitney. Yeah. They did announce that Sharna is back, which is huge. This is going to be so fun. I wonder if she'll bring back the red hair. Uh, this is going to be so exciting. This season is going to be huge. I think they're planning massive big things for this season. That's the vibe I'm getting. I think this is going to take up majority of our time. Clearly because at the same time, well, we already know we're getting a two night opening, two night opening episode, which is amazing. Takes me back to the good old days when you would watch all the dances one night. And then the next night you'd have a full elimination show all like you wouldn't just get that three minutes at the end. But I love this. Sean is coming back. They have been teasing that this was going to be a big season and clearly it is going to be because you have Sharna coming back. You have whoever's going to win, um, next pro the, we're going to find that out. And I think next week is the finale because this was just the semi semifinal. So that's another new person. You have Sharna coming back and you wonder if that, if like anybody's being taken out to put them in or if we're just adding anything away. I feel like Haley has been teased for so long. She's been, I, I would be shocked if she wasn't a part of this season as a pro at this point, the way that they have really included her in everything. So I feel like that could be another one. It's really interesting. And I'm, I'm really looking forward to this whole big announcement at this point. We only got what a week till it comes out. Yeah. Next week. So, but yeah, I mean, they gotta be like, God, damn it. And it's, it is really hard because the paparazzi, everybody are all outside of the rehearsal studio. They're clocking everybody. It's like, Oh, Sarah Jane ate her walking in with the mask, but then she's also walking into the convenience store. She's in the same outfit. She doesn't have the mask on. You can kind of put two and two together that, that that was her. And now it's like, they got to take them to like a secret location or something because it's going to get, it's going to get spoiled pretty quickly. But I am, I am liking how this is all shaping up right now with, with the cast that they have. I think it's going to be very exciting to watch. And then just a quick note to wrap up the topics. I just need to point out that Kendall Jenner and Jacob Lordy and all of these photos of them being spotted in London and all around town, I can't get enough. I don't think we've ever seen both of them be so public in a relationship. Like Jacob Lordy dated Olivia Jade for how many years? Five years? Saw them. Barely saw them. Yeah. Kendall Jenner and her relationships. You wouldn't usually see her holding hands with somebody arm in arm. These two gorgeous, just a gorgeous fricking couple. I can't get enough of the pictures. She's grabbing onto his big arms. Oh, I can't get enough. His big arms. Thoughts on them being a PR couple? Because that's what all the comments are saying. No, no. No. This is what people love to do. They love to call every couple a PR couple. Yeah. I will say, I do, in the sense that like their last relationships, they're not seen often with them. And then this, they are seen a lot together this time. A little bit more of a head scratcher. Well, maybe they just are like so in love and they're so proud to be with each other that they're like, yeah, we're going to fucking scream it from the rooftops. Maybe. Maybe that's what it is. Anybody ever think about true love? No, everyone just thinks about PR. What would they both need PR for? They're both so wildly famous. That's where I always fall. I'm like, what's the benefit? What's the benefit? She could go out by herself. She'll be spotted all the time and vice versa. Him too. Same with him. They don't need PR. Oscar nominated actor. No. PR is for the Naders. This is not PR. And I don't mean that as an insult. I just mean- Yes. some people go out of their way for PR. I don't think these two have to do that yeah i did like that picture of him you know what what i like when um he he was holding on to the back of her belt loop and i thought yeah i'm like fuck yeah love that they're probably just like they're they're just oh just let them have it yeah i'm not falling into this people did the same thing with timmy and kylie yeah why would timothy shallow man kylie jenner be a pr relationship kylie's back on youtube she's been posting some some videos she was showing off all of her cats people were freaking out because she has a cat named ophelia i mean these four are going to be out and about all the time kylie timothy i feel like we've already we've already seen it i'm shocked they haven't all been on a yacht this summer they've been doing like where's that energy well they're low-key camping you know they're glamping right right right kim's at the lake i mean kim and lewis hamilton we can talk about this they're all over the place too over each other oh my god how happy talk about that one feel i feel like that's true love sneaky yeah i'm so happy for them they look so like in love and happy they do they they absolutely do i wonder do you think like what's uh i like that kendall's been going to the premieres of his stuff party sneaking out in in and out out like they did the back entrance coming to support him i wonder what his next do we know like what his next big he's got a movie that's out like this have you seen this movie where like every time i open tiktok it's a forced ad about this movie in the behind the scenes this movie i have no interest the one the one that's out right now it's like some dog it's the dog movie right yeah yeah yeah yeah but i don't think the movie is about there's definitely a dog involved because he there is definitely a dog i mean the movie is called the dog stars but it's uh it's a like an apocalypse movie it's a ridley scott movie and this movie is being talked about like not even a little bit i know because every time i open it's jacob alorty like in an interview being like you know i couldn't pass up the chance to work with ridley scott like blah blah blah and i'm like anything that like has this much marketing like i don't think it's going to be good probably but hey yeah you never know really scott's great but i just remember seeing this trailer before both uh spider-man and the odyssey and i was thinking wow i feel like they really haven't been talking about this movie like at all and it's and it's um josh brolin it's a stacked cast margaret qually jacob alorty premiering this week it is premiering this week i don't really see any reviews of it yet though so i guess people haven't been able to see it yet yeah there's not one single not one single review about it yet we'll see what happens i mean he had a big day he was promoting withering heights for so long it's probably like all right now i gotta promote this one that and uh and frankenstein right a lot back to back was a real big one he deserves a break um all right it's just two people that are two gorgeous people that are obviously like of course they found each other yeah it's stunning you know uh yeah all right that wraps up the topics something big is coming on september 2nd draft kings game day arrives with massive deals exclusive deals and an all-day celebration built for sports fans the countdown has begun all roads lead to game day the draft king sports app is now live in all 50 states that means from texas to california to florida every fan is in on the excitement one app every sport all 50 states draft kings game day is yours get ready to celebrate new draft kings customers sign up with code bss spend five bucks to get 200 in rewards and get a free within 21 days that's code bss in partnership with draft kings the crown is yours event trading offered by draft kings predictions a cftc registered introducing broker trading involves risk of loss market availability varies eligibility restrictions apply fifty dollars every seven days via click to claim issued in non-withdrawable prediction dollars that expire in one year terms dkng.co slash predictions promo nationwide based on sportsbook predictions and free-to-play sports contest availability varies by state you all right let's get into the weekly watch report where we talk about the things we watch this week weekly watch report on monday weekly watch report on monday weekly watch report on monday weekly watch report on monday so i haven't watched a ton because i had a lot of company this past week so not much i have i'm still watching how i met your mother big twist in season three i've been waiting for this moment i'm gonna give it a b plus very much enjoying love a plot twist i'm gonna give it love some drama b plus sons of anarchy so i watched sons of anarchy when it was on tv years ago only watched it one time through they just announced a spin-off called legends and it's basically like i guess like a meta thriller where they are going to a convention for sons of anarchy and then anarchy happens so i believe they're going like charlie hunnam is going as charlie hunnam not jack's i tell her yeah i gotcha so that inspired me to start sons of anarchy again jack's teller man do you guys know about jack's teller i i've never watched it holy shit yeah what a walk on that guy what a walk on that guy let me tell you he's got a strut the death the definition of walking like it's heavy they say oh goodness no i didn't say that i didn't say that that's what tiktok saying yeah not me those words did not come from me but i've just been watching the we were watching these edits i said oh my god we got to turn on sons of anarchy we got to play this shit from the beginning so we started watching sons of anarchy from the beginning it's a fucked up show but it's a it's a really good show if anybody hasn't seen it and wants to binge an old show because there's a bunch of new ones so why would i watch a new one when i can just watch an old one i what i need to start watching some new shows what's his character's name jack's teller i know it's unfortunate it's unfortunate that it is very close to jack i will say on tiktok i i i you get the for these are the first four things to come up jack's teller jack's teller edits jack's teller best moments jack's teller heavy walk yes yes it's that's the thing that's number four on the list right that's the thing on tiktok they they say he walks like it's heavy i see it now i see it now i'm seeing a lot of them wow wow there's a lot there's a lot of videos about this yes yes uh so jack's teller is an icon and it sucks that his name is so close to jack's teller yeah yeah but i'll give uh it's hard to grade sons of anarchy because i've watched it before a minus give it an a minus it's good surviving barstool been watching i don't want to spoil it for people who are not caught up because i know that some people are behind but i have been thoroughly enjoying well can we talk about the one from wednesday yes we can like i feel like there's been enough time yes yes yes because i was peeing my pants at matt faking this ankle injury and watching it is so funny because dana just falls nowhere near nowhere near his ankle near his ankle that i was cracking up because i was like oh my god like in the moment i'm sure he already decided what what injury it was going to be but watching the replay is like it could have been a shoulder a wrist like but it's just like dana landed nowhere near his ankle also watching it back it is like damn it would have been a lot easier for him in the long run to like fake a shoulder injury or something absolutely because now he's hobbling on one leg in the next episode to keep up with this lie that he hurt himself now there was a lot of discussion about the medic being able to know right that's not on marty though like no it's not at all already did what he had to do he did and what it said and like that's on production for allowing that so he did what he had to do and whatever but i genuinely was crying laughing watching this i watched it like three times when he turns to dana he's like brace yourself i'm like i'm just cracking up i cannot get enough i it he is so being himself and so funny and i am so happy to see that i really am um so i've really been enjoying and i mean i i don't want to spoil for people because i watched last night's episode too yeah so you know more more has happened since then yeah but all the reactions were top-notch like dante seemed so genuinely worried about you know nikki smokes wheeling him around in a wheelchair like it's just it's too funny it's really just some good stuff she's like marty like you're one tough motherfucker and and the fact that he's keeping up with the hobbling and the end you have to you have to commit to it because now And if they know he's faking, then they'll go, oh, he has an idol. Like, if you just put two and two together, he doesn't want people to know he has an idol, although half the cast knows. For sure. Like, they'll all be like, big fat liar. He's gonna be like, oh, look at him lying about his injury. Every time he goes, the only people that know and proceeds to name five people, I'm like, that's not only. So many people. So many people. Yeah, I'm pretty annoying to watch it with. We were watching Sunday night's episode with my in-laws, and I was just commentating on what was happening, and my father-in-law looked at me and goes, you're a tough one to watch this with. I'm like, yeah. I gotta keep my mouth shut. That's so fair. But it's very entertaining, and I'm excited to continue watching. But good stuff. I mean, they've definitely changed up some things. You know, the music. The missions are new, and I feel like people have a lot of feelings on whether they like that or don't like that. Some of the missions are obviously way harder than other missions. You got, I mean, just Sunday night, I was fucking crying when Tate's like, man, I'd do anything for half an idol. And they're like, why do you keep saying that? Like, why is half an idol? When Pat was like, why is half an idol popping into your brain? Some of it's just funny. But I will say there was a lot of discussion going on about like, oh, I can't vote this person out because we're so close, da, da, da. It's like, well, at the same time, everyone signed up on a show that they knew the cast of. So you knew the probability of having to vote some people out that your friends. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know? So everyone works together. Everyone is, you know, some people are closer than others. But that is the game. And unfortunately, that's the way it goes. And it's really played to certain people's advantage, like that have really tried to make connections with everybody. Just from Wednesday's episode, I was so surprised, too. And he's playing well. But like Pat, I think Pat gets it. I think Pat, like, knows how the game works. And when he was like, guys, like, this is, this is a moment to try and get Roan. And it's just like, but Roan is really friends with everybody that it's working out well for him in some of these moments. Like, even Brandon Walker, like, I think there was a moment Brandon Walker was like, I can't vote for Roan. I was like, what? Right. Where did that relationship come from? Yeah, there's just certain ones that I'm like, what do you mean you can't? Like, listen, if you and I were on a different story where I would be like, I cannot vote out Fran. Yeah. You would be like, like, I would think that's how it went. Unless we got to a point where we're like, we would probably look at each other and go, shit. Yeah, you'd be like, time has come. Our time has come. This can only go so far. Yeah. So I do understand it to an extent. But the random ones like that, I'm like, you guys, I didn't even know you were friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but that is, it is a big dynamic so far this season with the guys, too. And it's been interesting to sort of see, like, a little bit of a Chicago, New York thing going on. It's, it's good. It's been good TV. It's been good TV. It has been good TV. It has been very entertaining. So catch up. It's on YouTube. So you can catch up if you haven't been watching. And I think it goes until Labor Day, I think, is the finale. So catch up on that. I, uh, Surviving Barstool, I mean, am I going to grade our, our company's own show? A plus. A plus. Because, um, what else? Oh, um, the Outer Banks official podcast. I'll give an A plus. Hosted by Rhea. I will give an A plus. I actually watched the entire thing. Good. Which I usually really, contrary to popular belief, really do not like watching myself at all. I hate listening to my own voice so much, which is so funny because we talk all day long. But I, God, when I hear myself, I'm like, ah! But I did watch the entire thing. So I'll give that an A plus. And then Outer Banks I watched a while ago. So I'm not going to grade that because, you know. Yeah, it's, yeah, and it's hard to, I haven't finished the whole thing yet. I'm, I've watched six episodes. I mean, there's a lot of episodes. There's a lot. There's a lot. And they're like longish, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, and that's all I watched. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't that much, but we did talk a while. Yes. So I am six episodes into Outer Banks. And just really, like, I'm going to miss this show because God bless this show. God bless this show's complete disregard for any logistics ever. I, it is so wildly entertaining. Like, I was watching, I was texting you because I was like, I just, this is just too good. Because, like, when they just put me on the show, I was like, I'm going to pop back in the Outer Banks. And they're like, and Jambi's narrating. They're like, yeah, they sent a song from Croatia. It's like, okay, he pulled out a gun and was running through the streets of Croatia with a gun, like, for quite some time. And you're telling me the authorities just went, ah, let's just send these crazy kids back to the US? It's so ridiculous. It is so ridiculous. It's so good, though. Like, and then I texted you about this, too. I'm like, Jambi's just out on his boat and it's just a giant fucking package. A package of marijuana just floats by. That was my favorite storyline from this season. Him having to turn to Rafe and be like, what are we doing with this? Yeah, yeah. It did seem like they were in dire need with straight up no money whatsoever. And they have nowhere to live. I mean, the most absurd part about this season is that you pretty much forget that Sarah Cameron's having a baby. 100%. She's doing a lot of running. You're like, is she still, like, is she having a baby or not? You're like, is she okay? Yeah. Is anyone checking in on her? Has she been to the doctor? No. Any appointments? Any appointments? No doctor. They have no money. They have no money. Yeah, I mean, of course, there's like, I think the key of it all and the obsession with maybe trying to bring JJ back, it's just like, you knew that she was gonna have to just work. Work through that one. Like, you're just gonna have to, you're just gonna have to process. But he is a good groff, good villain. He's so punchable. God, God, God, that guy's annoying. Really annoying to watch. But it is good. Even in that, like, when they were still in Croatia, this was earlier in the season, and Finch came to try and get the crown. And that poor woman was just like, my money. And I looked at Joe, I just went, she's getting shot in the head. Two seconds later, shot in the head. I was like, damn, she's going, she's going, she's going down. But I'm excited to see how it all ends because we did, you did have to spoil it a little bit for me when we had Chase come in because we wanted to talk about the end of the show and how things all wrap up. So I know sort of like what happened. I just don't know how we got there. Yeah, so that is a spoiler alert for the episode. Yeah, there is. That is a big spoiler alert on the episode. That we do talk about. We'll say that again before the episode, before the interview starts. Because we talk about, we talk about the end. And that's a big thing, despite, like I said, I'm definitely watching all the way through. We watched Lanterns, which is the new HBO show. Yes, seen this. Which is in the DC comic world. It is in the James Gunn universe. Kyle Chandler. Kyle Chandler, huh? In it? Kyle Chandler. He is a jack of all trades. He really is. And let me tell you, we were talking about this a long time with my family last night when we were watching. He looks great. Talk about a guy that's just gotten more gray and more handsome. Amen. Like, he's just, and I hate saying it because it always is so annoying. It's like, oh, these guys, they just fucking go gray and they still look good. And he does. He is the cast. And then the other guy, this guy who plays John, is also incredibly handsome. My goodness. The two of them together. Really quite the pair. You can count on three things in this podcast. The weather, the Jonas Brothers, and hot guys. Hot guys. And sometimes all those things interlap into one. Yeah. And you know what? I felt it. So we watched the first. We watched the first episode again because my dad and my brother watched it again with us because we hadn't seen it. And then we went right into the second episode. It's really great because it is very, like, it is superhero, but it is also sort of that buddy cop type movie as well, which is really cool and already very locked in. Like, I give those first two episodes an A. Really good. I think it's like, I was going to like True Detective, vibes from it, but with a superhero element. Okay. Do you think I would like it because Matt really wants to watch? I do, yes. All right. I do. Because it's still very much mystery and there's like a time jump. So right away in the first episode, you are getting like an origin story for John. You're in 2016 and then you're in 2026. And in 2026, you just get for a split second, something real bad happens in 2026. So then it jumps back to 2016. So you're like, oh, it's very good. Well-paced Kyle Chandler is great. And it's like, it is, it's, I know I see a lot of people comparing it to sort of like a penguin type situation where it's like, you're in that comic book universe, but it's not like over the head superhero comic book stuff. It's just like, you know, intergalactic. You got to worry about aliens. It's about aliens, really. So it's, it's really, really good. Really like that a lot. Dave's screaming at us to watch Furious. So we got to put that on our list. We're definitely going to watch Furious. Comments on a post from weeks ago when the show is out. But I do really want to watch it because that's, that's the one with Emmy Rossum, right? Yes. Yes. And it's very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I really want to watch that. That's on my list. I'm all caught up on Next Gen NYC, which I believe you are as well. Yes, I am. I am all caught up. I forgot about that. We're all caught up. God, I hate to like, I love to hate. And I hate to love this show. It's just one of those things where you're just really locked in to some of this, to some of this behavior and the friend group and like what they all talk about. It's fascinating. It is fascinating. I think Brooks Marks is one of the worst people on reality TV ever. I, I, I just, I'm sorry. I just don't like when the shtick is like not knowing what's going on. No, like even in his interview when they were like talking about their flights to Brooks Marks, I was like, I don't know what's going on. I was like, I don't know what's going on. And he, the producer was just like, well, the government shut down. And he was like, the government shut down. And she's like, yeah, it has been for like a month. Like, it's like, that was breaking news to him. I was like, I, I can't, that's, that's a level that I can't get down with. No, no, no. And you're bubbly that you don't know that's going on. So exactly. Was a little bit crazy to me, but I really like these newer additions. Like I like, um, what's, what's Brooke Shields daughter's name? Ro, Ro, uh, Ronan, Rowan, Rowan. It definitely starts with an R. It's definitely an R. I like her despite forgetting what her name is right now. Right. She hasn't been that big of a player. Yeah. Yeah. But she's good. She's a good element. Yeah. Yeah. And I like Liam a lot. I think Liam was also a really good addition because you needed somebody to stir it up a little bit with Ariana and, and, um, they were smooching in front of everybody. Yeah. It was all the whole thing. One whole thing. And my God, like when I saw Ariana sit in, sit in and coach next to Charlie, I thought this guy's this she's charmed by this. This guy, we got a, we got a problem because if you're giving up, allegedly giving up your first class seat to go sit back there with him, that's saying something. That means you're in pretty deep. That's, that's saying something pretty strong. Um, so it's been good. I'll give it like, I don't know. I actually really do enjoy it. B minus. Like I think it's, yeah. Uh, compared to some of the other stuff that I've also give it a B minus. So I'm in, I'm in the B minus. I have only watched one episode of ultimate girls trip. They're celebrating 20 years of housewives. They're traveling all over the country. They're doing all these things. I'm excited to watch the whole, uh, said to catch up. I'm behind. I've only watched the first episode when they were in, uh, when they're in the OC, I've never really watched OC. So it doesn't hit like as hard for me, despite knowing a lot of the lore and hearing a lot of the lore. And I'm like, Oh my God, this, this stuff. And Vicky is just some type of lady. Like there's, we're having a good conversation. Teresa's kind of talking about all the, you know, the tax stuff, going to jail. She's being pretty open about it. And Vicky's just like pay your taxes. That's why I pay my taxes all the time. Like, it's just like Vicky, shut up. I forgot. I did watch Vicky is Vicky. This is why you pay your taxes every year on time, every year on time. And everyone was like, Vicky, shut up. We need that though. We need that. Yeah. Yeah. When she handed them all like, uh, uh, packets to sign up for life insurance, I was cracking up. Um, episode one, I'll give a B I'm excited. Cause I think it's only going to get better as they travel around the country and visit all the other, all the other places and see all the other houses. And all that jazz, um, I'm caught up on next pro I'll give that a B we're right at the semifinal, which I haven't watched yet, which I believe it airs tonight. I was always confused if it airs Sunday night or Monday nights, but I think Monday nights on like actually on TV, but I've just been watching on Hulu. Um, I thought that that was a little bit of a tricky elimination in this last one. Cause sometimes I think it's a little bit of a tricky elimination. I feel like when, when, when you have a pair dancing like ballroom and so many things they talk about all the time in this show, you're, you're there to like show off the, the female part and she has all these moves. So it's kind of tough. Like when you're being judged and like the two bottom were people that dance together cause then it's sometimes always feels like it ends up being the guy that gets the short end of the stick, which is a little bit of what happened because I thought that guy was really fantastic. It got centered. I hope not to, you know, if you're not caught up, but, um, that's that and caught up on Ted Lasso. It's like, I don't know. I'm waiting for it to get good if I'm, and I'm hoping it does definitely introducing some new characters, which I like that's in like the B minus category for me as well right now. I'm still enjoying it. Still watching it. Um, but that's where I'm at. And then same with Lioness. Lioness airs on Sunday. So I haven't watched this last Sunday, but two and three I watched last week. This show is so fucking intense, but it is so good. Just some great, like crazy shit happens in this, in this show. And Zoe Zaldana agrees to do a lot on this show. That is crazy. It's really intense, but I, I just think, um, it's very, very entertaining. It was locked into the season. I'll give this, I'll give episodes two and three a B plus and that's everything I watched. Okay. I don't have much. I have two rewatches that I rewatched in theaters, both of them. Uh, so I rewatched La La Land, the 10 year anniversary. Uh, and I mean, it's an eight plus. It always will be. It was, uh, funny that like I was, it was me. And then like another, like seemingly like just guy by himself next to me. And I'm like, we're not really fitting, like the demographic of what I would think this 10 year anniversary of La La Land is, but we both enjoyed it. Uh, but yeah, that's just an all time. It'd be good to see it on screen. The last time I saw it in theaters was when it came out and I was in LA 10 years ago. Um, so I texted my friends, like I'm going back solo, but yeah, just, I mean, I don't know how many times I can tell Rhea to watch it, but one day maybe she will. Yeah. Yeah. And honestly, I timed it up perfectly this time because you know how it's like 25 to 30 minutes after the list of times when like a movie starts in theaters. So I usually go like around that time and I guess, I don't know if it's cause it's old this time, but yeah. Uh, it started earlier. So like when I walked into the theater, like I hadn't missed the beginning, but the beginning part is like the one part of the movie I just do not care to watch at all. It's like, which is what scares people away. I think it's like, yes, which is why I've, I've shut it off every single time. The first time I saw it, like as like not really a musical guy, I was like, Oh God, like this is going to be bad. So this time I walked in and like, it literally had just ended and it was like zooming in on Ryan Gosling in his car. And I'm like, that was the most perfect time I could ever ask for. Like the movie should just start there. No, actually. Uh, but the last, like the last half of the movie is just unreal. Um, so yeah, that's an A plus. And then, uh, the other night I rewatched Tony, the Anthony Bourdain movie, but on the Cape, which when I first saw it, I was like, I have to see this movie on the Cape. Um, because the whole movie is set in Provincetown in 1975. And I was like, this will just. hit different like it was a when I saw it in New York, but But in the Cape, if I wanted to go super like meta, like I would have gone to Provincetown and seen it in Provincetown. That was a little I don't think I could have got my family to do that. So we saw it in Chatham. But still, it was like it did like seeing it on the Cape, like every time it kind of mean the whole movie is on the Cape. Like every time it was like a landmark or anything. Yeah, it was like like the oohs and ahhs, like cheers from the crowd. Oh, that's so fun. It's a home field advantage. Yeah, that's awesome. And then there's like I won't spoil it. Not that anyone would probably even know the song, but there's like a song that plays at the end that is like specific to the Cape. And like when that came, like it's just my my my aunt and dad came out crying, like great movie. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. But people, I've seen multiple people now say that they think Leo Whittle might get nominated for this. Really? And supporting and Antonio Banderas. But yeah, I want to see it. But yeah, just great movie. And yeah, I said it last time, but Leo Whittle, he's he's my guy now. He's rising up. Big fan. Yeah, that's yeah, I'm a fan. I was going to say we can say you are a fan. I'm a fan of all three. Leo, Dominic and Antonio. Big fan. Big fan. And the director, Matt Johnson. So there you go. Yeah. Highly recommends both those movies. If you haven't seen them. There's a chance I see Tony before La La Land. You probably will. I probably will. And this is just reminding me now that everyone should watch Tuner 2, which is my favorite movie this year because that's Leo Whittle. So. Leo Whittle should hire you for PR. Shout out to Leo Whittle. Seriously. Oh my God. But yeah, that's that's it. Amazing. All right. All right. That is everything we watched. Slots fans. The wait is over. Lightning Link is available online for the first time ever. And DraftKings Casino has it. In fact, DraftKings Casino is your home of Lightning Link. I love Lightning Link. We've been playing on the DraftKings app, the casino online. It is so much fun. And new casino players can play five bucks and get 1000 spins. Including 500 Lightning Link spins. So that's 50 spins a day at varying values for your first 20 days. Strike now to claim your offer. 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So, if you don't want to know how it all ends, then maybe skip the interview and go back. But it is a wonderful interview, so let's get into it. All right, everyone. We are here with a very special guest. The one, the only, Chase Stokes. I made it. You made it. In studio. Welcome to our studio. It's so cute. Thanks. I love it. And by the way, you're our last guest ever in this studio. We're redoing it. Yeah. So, it's kind of poetic. No. It's getting like a full, complete redo. No, it's exciting. It's exciting. Yeah, I was going to say. A good renovation is always fun. We're looking forward to. I mean, it served its purpose. It was so fun. But now we're ready to kind of bring it up a little bit. Like, the walls are a little bright. Yes. You're like, we're growing up, so our space needs to grow up with us. Right. We need the lighting to get like a little bit more dim. We're going to get a bit older. We don't want it to be as HD as it is anymore. You know, that sort of thing. It could be HD, just like put a filter on it. Yeah. You know, let's just dim it down. Yeah, exactly. You know, the Kardashians film, they got a filter. It's just that kind of stuff. Same shit, different circumstances. Well, we are so excited to have you in studio. It's been a long time coming. It is. You know, we did Zoom in the past. Yes. We had that whole thing. We joke around about it. Yeah. I will say, it's very. First podcast ever. First podcast ever. First podcast. By the way, this is my first podcast ever right now. Right now. Listen, I just want you to know that you have so many people defending you on that. Do I really? Yes, you really do. I'm so chronically not online, so it's really tough for me. You really do have so many people defending you being like, well, it was the first in person, and you guys weren't in person, and stop slandering him. And I'm like, you know what? Fair. Like, you know what? Fair. Come to his defense, as you should. Your fans should, you know? Yeah, you know, the internet's a crazy place. That it is. I've come to realize that pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah, that it is. But we are. We're so excited because now. We're recording this a little bit ahead of time, but when this comes out, Outer Banks last season will be fully out, released. And I'm sure. I'm sure everyone will have watched it by now. It's been about a week, so if you haven't watched it, I don't know what you're doing. This is like. This has got to be a binge in a day situation. I think we're doing all 10 immediate drop versus the like half and half. Half and half. Right, right. So, yeah, there's really no excuse. Right, right. At this point, you know, five seasons, commit to the bed. Do it. Because you've got to kind of say, it is such a big question of when are you allowed to fully talk about a show when they release all the episodes at one time? Because we get yelled at for spoilers. And it's like, well, if you go past the first weekend. Yeah, I don't. Is there a Netflix rep in here? No. Yeah, yeah. No, I really don't know the logic. I think the streaming stuff has changed the dynamic versus like theatrical release. Yep. You know, they sort of let things lay out a little bit longer. But for us, yeah, they're like, oh, week later, it's old news. Yeah, right. It's out. So, we're like, on to the next one. What's the next YA adventure? So, yeah. Things move fast, but we obviously have followed your journey. We followed your journey on this show. We have loved the show for so many years. And to see it wrap up so beautifully, I think, it wrapped up in a way that us fans really enjoyed. What has it been like for you now? You know, you've been doing a ton of press about the ending of the show, but now it's done. You know, it's closing the book on it all because it's out there. Everybody knows what happens. Yeah. You know, I think one of the things that I've loved about this show is it catches you off guard and it makes you so mad so often. And so, to finish it on a note that is so satisfying is really gratifying for us, too. You know, because we'll get scripts and we'll be like, how do we, not just me, like, even Jonas will look at it and he'll be like, how do I shoot this? Like, I don't know if this is even possible or believable. And so, I think we've had this, like, really unique way of kind of skirting around, like, death a number of times. I found out this week that John V is apparently on. He's almost died 27 times by the end of season four. That adds up. That's a lot of time. The math was math. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. So, I think with all of that, you know, to have the ending come all the way full circle and truly, like, give a happy ending, not, like, kind of bullshit it or, like, leave it open-ended, I think is something a lot of shows don't want to do because we're so used to, like, oh, maybe there's more or, like, what if we do a spinoff or what if we do this? And I think we, because we all knew we were done, we were able to, like, really put the period at the end of the sentence. That's what's so satisfying about it because no matter what, I think any of the past seasons when you would get to that last episode, you would watch and think, is this, is this wrapping up? And then the last ten minutes you'd be like, well, obviously not. Right. Now there's, you can't. They couldn't end it here. Right. But with something like this, you, it ends and you're like, this is the end. I'm satisfied with that. You're like, you cannot go further than this. This is where it all wraps up, which is, which is, I'm glad they gave that to you guys for the characters. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's been seven years. Like we did the, uh, the premiere the other day and I looked in my, my photos and I was like, wow, we rolled cameras May 1st, 2019. And so seven years of this, I was like, wow. Yeah. Like you spend so much time with something. It's like anything else in life. Right. Now you're living with like a, like a second personality for seven years. It's diabolical. So you have to get rid of it. You have to put that to bed. It's like having a roommate for seven years. You're like, I love. Yeah. I'm going to love you and leave you. You know, it's time to move on. Yeah. Um, so I was really thankful that we got to end it on our terms, um, and do it kind of the right way. Cause we were all getting a little loopy towards the end. I want to know what life was like for you before outer banks, because it kind of felt like the show took you guys by storm immediately. It all happened in COVID. So it was overnight. Everyone's locked down. Then you leave your houses and you're getting flood. And with the popularity that you didn't know existed beforehand, what was life like for you leading up to that? The auditions that you went on, like all the time you spent getting to this point. I mean, going all the way back when I was, I was in Florida, um, and I was attempting to go to university of central Florida and I had taken TV production in high school and I had done like my first acting job, which was a commercial for this. It's this company called Amscot and it was like a money loan. SITUATION AND IT WOULD ALWAYS AIR ON LIKE CARTOON NETWORK LATE NIGHT SO IT WAS LIKE ROBOT CHICKEN and shit. And then like, I was a pizza boy delivering pizza. The network we were afraid of when we were kids. Yeah. It's like, don't let the TV be on at three o'clock. Night terrors for life. And so, uh, I decided, I was like, okay, I really want to take this serious. I don't know anyone in the industry. And I found out about IMDB pro. I made a fake Gmail account pretending to be a manager. I emailed every agent in the entire town. And I was just like, Hey, I've got this kid from Orlando, Florida. He's a little bit green, but like, I think he's got a shot. And, uh, one guy actually responded and I said, you need to get out to LA. The other side of it, as I lied, we got on the phone and then I folded immediately. I was like, I'm a liar. I'm full of shit. It's me. It's me. I'm the kid. You're a great actor. He was like, he sent me an audition for my first audition ever. Like legitimate auditions was for the vampire diaries. And, um, I didn't know what a self tape was. So he's like, here's a self tape. If it's remotely okay, then we'll keep talking. And so I, uh, I borrowed some cameras from some friends and I literally shot the scene, two cameras, went out into the woods, shot it like an actual scene from a movie. And I'm like, fuck, this is exhaust. Like you have to do this for every audition. And so I sent it in and he was like, I don't know what this is. Like all you needed was a blank wall and just like nobody on camera with you. You like that coverage. And so you filmed a short film. I did. Yeah. I filmed the spoof of the vampire diaries. And, um, and then he was like, you need to get out to LA and getting classes. Like if you're going to put that much effort into it, I'll give you a shot. Um, and it was a grind. Like it was five, six years of like working at bars. Um, I lied and said I was a food photographer for a little bit and was taking food photography. Um, I just like everything under the sun to just make ends meet. Um, and then I started to kind of book some smaller jobs and I had this, stupid ass idea. I was like, okay, I'm a working actor now. Like I'm not going back to a real job. And I was dead broke on unemployment, eviction notice on my door. Um, and then out of bank showed up. So it was like this, this choice of saying, I want to do this as a career. I'm going to commit to it. I don't have any, like I was $30,000 in credit card debt. Like it was, it was not a smart choice. Don't recommend it to anybody choosing this career. Yeah. Recently you talked about how you did your taxes wrong the first time. Oh, that was, yeah. Yeah. I claimed, um, because I didn't have any money. I was like, oh, I need to get all of the money up front. And so I thought if you claim nine on your taxes, that means like nine out of 10, you know, the most you can get. Uh, it actually means nine children as nine dependents. So I had the most taken away. So Rudy and I were living together and I got my check and I'm like, dude, I can't even afford rent. Like what, how did, how did people live in this job? And he's like, what are you talking about? And he saw my check and it was like 1100 bucks for the first episode. He was like, you did this wrong. And I was like, Drew, what, what do you know about taxes? And so Drew was like, you're an idiot. Yeah. No, that's the best. Figuring out how to file taxes for the first time is always a trip because you're like, and every year you still question if you're doing it right. Every year you're like, look, I did it last year. It all worked out. I'm going to do it the exact same way this year. But I'm going to do it the exact same way this year. And I'm going to do it the exact same way this year. And I'm going to do it the exact same way this This still could be wrong somehow. And the last thing you want is to end up on the news, like Mike the Situation, where you evaded your taxes. And, you know, you just try not to. You just try not to. You just don't want to be Mike. And there you were. You were giving away all your money for no reason. I did the opposite. Yeah, I was trying not to pull a situation. I was like, I'm going to give it all. I'm doing it for the love of the game. They're like, Chase Stokes is broke because he claimed nine children. What is it like now? Are you still doing self-tapes or are, you know, I'm assuming a lot of offers coming for you because they know how good you are from Outer Banks. Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting kind of dichotomy. Like, I still am auditioning for a ton, but I'm getting offers for other things. And typically, like, because I'm a little bit pigeonholed because Sean B. is such a specific character, a lot of people look at me and they're like, oh, they almost get it confused with reality. Like, it's this weird, blurred line for us. Obviously, Drew is sort of in his own echelon now, which is surprising. Super cool to see. But, yeah, like, I'm still auditioning the job that I'm about to start. I had to go through the full audition process with that. Like, there was no, hey, we're just going to offer you a job on a, you know, another project. But I kind of like that because I have such bad imposter syndrome. So, for me, anytime an offer comes through, I'm sort of like, are you sure? Like, do you want me to read it? Do you want to see me do it so you know that what you're investing in is actually what you want? So, as much as, like, a lot of people will look at the process and say, oh, I don't want to do it, I'm cool with it. Yeah, because it is interesting when you bring up the point of being pigeonholed as Sean B., who is a 16-year-old teenager when you're, like, a full-grown man and you have to fight against that and be like, no, no, I'm an adult and I can do this. Yes. Which is awesome, though. So excited for you and your next project. Thank you. And we'll talk about that a little later on. I want to go back to you bringing up, like, shooting in the woods for a self-tape and all that because I see now. And there's conversation about self-tapes, like, I think, for example, when they talked about Odessa for Marty Supreme. Yeah. Like, she went into a phone booth and did all that. Yeah. And then there's the people who just use a blank wall. Where do you fall on that? Like, do you think it is better to do something out of the box or do you think you should be doing the, you know, standard in front of the wall? You know, it's interesting. Yes and no. It kind of depends on the situation. I think there's been enough examples out now of people really throwing some shit out there. Like Odessa. Then now I think people are really like, how do I make this different? And how do I, like, show my edge in it? And initially I was. Like, I would always do something to kind of throw off the casting directors. And my thought was, like, even if it sucks, they'll remember me. So that should be a good thing. And in hindsight, probably not. Like, I would start self-tapes just, like, screaming into the camera. And then just, like, walk to wherever my mark was. And I'd be like, hi, I'm Chase. I'm six foot one. I'm reading for the world. Whatever. And so now. Now I think it's sort of shifting back. Like, you kind of don't want to disrespect the work at the end of the day. And you don't want to do something that's too personal. Because you don't have the job yet. So if you don't have the job, there's a part of you that wants to add your own personal touch. But there's still people you need to, you know, get the approval from. What was. You mentioned acting classes in L.A. What were those like for you? What were the cast of characters in there? I could imagine you get all different walks of life in L.A. acting classes. It's such a trip. Like, so many big personalities. And then so many. I really lucked out because I got into a class of all working actors. And I was like the token non-working actor. So I felt way out of my league. But it also sucked because people would go away and work. And then they would come back and I'd still be bartending. And then they would go and do another project and come back. And I'd still be bartending. So it was kind of a really humbling experience. Because you're watching everybody. You go to work. And I spent like four years just being like, all right, when is that going to happen? Or like I'd go do like I had one line in Stranger Things. And I went and did that. And they're like, how was it? I was like, so good. One day. In and out. You were on for four months. Yeah. I'd keep you sitting around, sat all day long. Yeah. Just sitting in like a tiny little like a closet at that point. It's just like a little room with a baby couch. Literally like this big. And you're like, ready when you are? Yeah. I'm here. I'm here. It was humbling. But like also just really good to be in that position. And I'd like do give a huge testament to that being a building block. So like if I had success early, like I've had my trials and tribulations publicly. So like having any of that early, not would not have been great for me. Right, right, right. Yeah. What's one of like the do you remember any crazy practices or any crazy scenes you'd had to do in acting class? Maria has. She has an acting class story that she tells often because they make you do some things. No, I know. I know. I'm curious if there's anything that stands out to you that you remember. You're like, what the fuck am I doing right now? There was one. It's like a mirror exercise and you stand with a partner and it was 30 minutes long, which is an obnoxious amount of time to stare into somebody's eyes. You barely know. And if they put their hand up, then you put your hand up and match it. And then if they start crying, you have to start crying and 30 minutes of it and you go through every single range of emotions. to the point to where you were just raw at the end. And then they're like, okay, let's talk about our scenes. And I'm like, I'm done. I need to go home and nap. Yeah, you're exhausted by the end of that. Yeah, I had an acting teacher who, this isn't the story Fran's talking about, but that she would make us say the alphabet, but in our head we were telling an emotional story. And by the end, she would want you to be crying by the time you got to the end of the alphabet. And so- Z needed to be in here. Z needed to be, you needed to be absolutely shredded. And there were people who nailed it because they had dealt with a lot at a young age and I was 12 at the time. So they had dealt with a lot at a young age and I actually learned a lot in those classes from people. So they were able to get there, but at that age, I really hadn't been through much. I'm sorry, I can't get there. Yeah, I was like, I really am trying. And I would be like, D, D, and I would try so hard. And at one point, yeah. And at one point, my acting teacher looked at me and she was like, pretend like you're dead. just died and i was like oh what and i genuinely like i know i was like oh my god like and i mean she gets you there she gets you there but i'm 12 years old yeah you're like i don't have childhood trauma i have acting coach trauma yeah i think i do you're like f yeah full tears no it really is crazy but you know you've been in the outer banks the bubble like you said seven years now when you would wrap a season what's the first thing you're doing when you're getting home uh the last season three to season five i would pull a britney and i would shave my head yeah like on set last day like i've like this job this job hair is gone you just like it's such a especially being in charleston and i bought a house in charleston like it was so obvious that it was me and so going out in public became like a real you task yeah whether it's the grocery store whether it's getting gas and so that was my way of shedding the skin and feeling like i was really removed from it and it worked it would work for like three weeks to where nobody would know who i was by the time they put two and two together they're like oh he's bald now like what the fuck's wrong and then i'm gone like so it was kind of like a nice buffer um and truly like i i have this weird thing where like i'll take any and everything that i have that had to do with the season and i throw it away and i learned that in acting class like when you're done with an audition like take the sides throw them away like be done with it let it let it go um but this season was different like it was we all really knew that it was the end of the road like even last night we went out to dinner it was me drew and jd and um i had to get back because i have a full day of press they do not they're uh on a plane going home and um drew gave me a hug and he goes congratulations and i was like what he goes we did it yeah mm-hmm and i was like what do you what do you shut up what are you talking about and he was like that was our last interview today forever and i was like oh and we just sat there and the three of us just like had a moment yeah kind of cried because we're like you're so used to doing press with each other it's just like tweedledee and tweedledum yeah and i feel like it can get you kind of get used to it and fully you maybe take it for granted at times like oh well it's just drew and jd again but then when you have that moment you're like wait a second this might be the last time i'm going to be able to do this again i'm going to be able to do this again i'm like we all work together yeah i mean like as i was leaving i looked at them and i was like i'll see you later and then i was like in my yeah yeah in my chest i was like i actually i don't know when i'm gonna see you guys next like we've always had this built-in friendship so to speak and um granted we've always found each other in in every way and jd's family and my family are close friends now so it's like really intertwined but it was the first time to where there was no next right set date yeah or like going back to school or something like that and i was like oh my god i'm going to work or whatever it is so to your point like yeah i think there's there's inevitably when you get so lucky to have something that goes so long i i've asked so many people who have done it before me like the riverdale cast and the vampire diaries cast and you know josh jackson like i've had a really good opportunity to connect with all of those different worlds and they're like how can you not like how can you not feel exhausted with it or or done with it but as it's finished you just have nothing but gratitude like truly it's a training ground it's you know years and years of time on camera which is invaluable as an artist early in your career so now i think it's it's you know you go from like oh i'm missing out on jobs or oh you know i don't have the free time or i can't have a normal life to now it's like oh i'm really thankful i had this opportunity do you watch yourself back like have you watched this show god no i i some people cannot watch themselves back like i i have in times past you know like there's a part of me that was like i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it BAB I'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again I'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again i'm not going to do it again we're sending you all around the world basically yeah um the first place we went was uh barbados and i mean like it's just where the show started and where it ended you could have never anticipated that and it's it's one of the cooler parts about the job is like you know you're going to be in charleston mind you one of the most incredible places on the planet yes we love it's the best like the food the people the beaches like it's such a hidden gem and then they're like we're gonna go to morocco we're gonna go to croatia we're gonna go to barbados and um and it's just so cool to travel for work like i remember watching interviews of actors and they're like yeah we filmed this in budapest i'm like what like that's for your job like that's crazy and so to get to travel to these places granted it's not like you know shooting in morocco was tough like it was so tough we were out in the middle of the desert and sandstorms and waking up at three o'clock in morning like this show is a grind like everyone behind the camera has said this is the most difficult tv show they've ever worked on physically like it is the most demanding show um so it's fun to watch it come to life but after like seven months of shooting it you're like god i really hope this season works because i'm exhausted yeah but it's it's cool it's it's fun to go to places you never thought you would go did you have a favorite place um i loved barbados like the people the culture um you know we the first time we went was during the pandemic so we we had to quarantine for 12 days in a hotel room i almost actually got us kicked off the island uh whoops yeah i they had an all you can drink package for your room and uh it was like day six and um they had made the free john b shirts i can't remember who did it but i had one in my room and i made a giant pyramid of like 30 beers and i threw the free john b shirt over the the balcony and the beijing government was flying drones to make sure everybody was staying in quarantine at night and i was sitting on the edge of my balcony dangling and i was like they're beyond the point of no return i guess and we got a letter from the beijing government saying hey if you don't get certain people in check and they sent a screenshot of you oh my god from the drone yes hanging on the balcony do you have it i have a i'll show you i have a photo i just want to know if you have it in possession it's me with like kind of like a childish version of a beard a bucket hat and like a line of beers on my balcony and just the shirt that says free john b it's kind of frameable it's not it's pretty incredible but the best part was like our production sent out an email and then in our like group chat of all the producers directors and camera guys uh our dp had sent it back and he had whited out deer production and just said deer chase because everybody knew it was me so i was a menace that trip but it was just it was an awesome place listen when you're in a hotel room for 12 days unlimited alcohol you can't do anything else yeah what's a person to do i'm like netflix and beer yeah yeah that's it that's all you can do that's really all you can do it really is true i mean the show took so many twists and turns i know you guys talked about it so much with with season four and how that that all ended yeah what were your initial thoughts of losing jj they sat us all down and they said this is what's going on um and this is where this episode is this season and this episode are going to end and we were like oh shit okay and i guess like to their credit like it had been something that they had planned um i think they were worried about our reaction because we do typically when scripts come out like we talk through it and then we're like this is what we don't like this is what we do like can we change this can we change that and to our writers credit as much as we're probably a pain in the ass for it like they do work with us with the script and we're like we're going to do it not just with dialogue but like plot points too so um i think that was their time where they were like all right we're we're holding strong on this one so it was it was bizarre and then you're like so far away and you're trying to like go through all of the the versions of like how we got here um and we just kind of all were like all right here we go yeah to be fair you know jj is such a beloved character i mean we love jj yeah a show like outer banks unfortunately needed someone yeah because that is what really and like you said before john b almost died 27 times like when you watch a show like that somebody's got somebody has to unfortunately because you all have escaped death so many times on this show and there has to be times that you gotta be caught eventually or and also are really bought in yeah right because we saw it happen with jj so in the final season i think there are multiple times where you are completely bought in and you're like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry to i think key the most for sure where i was like oh are they about to kill key off as well and i was like no this can't be happening but you buy in because you know that they did it with jj so yeah i do think it's something that unfortunately had to happen um and especially i mean when you get the script for for season five and you see how many times i think is it key the most in this final season yeah yeah like we we really wanted it to be her vendetta to her vendetta to her vendetta on revenge and i feel like this this season you see that the most um and you see her escape death multiple times but you're just like how does this happen when a villain dies it's one thing yeah but when you have the main cast that makes decisions that puts themselves in harm's way and escapes death so closely so often you sort of take away and that was my fear with jj's death is and i've i've you know we've felt the backlash a little bit of it but i think it's a really good is like if you escape death so many times then does the value of when death actually happens stick right and so now i think obviously everybody knows that he's really actually dead with the season out but like it i think as the trailer came out and as we were kind of impressed i think there was enough people being like oh maybe he will come back maybe he will come back and yes that that's kind of a bummer you know like it didn't hold whereas like game of thrones i think is a great example not the ending but like the the way that they really allowed main characters to die made you really realize like oh shit nobody's safe right and then when they did bring somebody back you were not expecting it at all because they really did kill people yes exactly so it was yeah i get what you're saying no that is there are certain shows that when people would die be like they're not dead right yeah i did see that when the trailer came out um so many people thought oh no it's it's not possibly but it's like no this really happened but when they when people see and now at this point when this comes out they will have seen that no yeah yeah my real my favorite when the trailer came out was like there's no way this is going to be supernatural like this bullshit if they bring jj back and like as we were filming it i was like okay my only like big qualm is like please like let's not lean too far into like the right could this actually work right um and then when you know it all came together and i was watching it in adr i was like oh actually you know what like it it's pretty obvious the pogues are not like fully convinced that this can work and kia's a little delulu thinking she can bring it back um but uh like watching people have that same reaction to it and i was like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die of like no like no absolutely not you're gonna watch and see so um yeah it's kind of funny yeah you mentioned um you know having those moments with the guys like finishing press and you guys normally all do stuff together was it a little weird not having rudy with you guys for this last round yeah i mean like rudy's such a character and he's he's such a you know an energy not just in the press run but actually on set um so it's kind of it is it was like the ghost of him was around um and you know jd and i actually had a really heart-to-heart conversation before the season started and uh you know because he is the relief and so that's a part of that show that is so immensely important like you can't let it just hang and let john b just be going 90 miles an hour the whole time so we're like all right we got to figure out where we can like layer in the comedy and so um we really really made a point like even in the sequence when um john b and pope break into topper's house and it's like they're going through his dad's like safe and stealing the money and like making it rain and all that shit like it was just super important to make sure that like there was the heart of jj in it and we layered him in like john b's wearing jj's pookie shirt for like two episodes straight and that was just like our way of saying like the character will never die and it's also like a little bit of you know paying tribute to rudy and like his efforts because like those are choices that he made yeah not just as jj like that was him the costume department being like what if jj had like a you know air spray painted like t-shirt that said pookie on it um and that's like a testament to his level of comedy and like his love for the character so work hard and hydrate hard with body armor flash iv whether you're working in extreme heat or powering through a long shift body armor flash iv delivers faster longer lasting hydration with more than 2 000 milligrams of electrolytes vitamins b and c and zinc coconut water and no artificial sweeteners flavors or dyes body armor flash iv keeps you performing at your best get body armor flash iv at your local 7-eleven i think you guys did a great job in this season showing that um i love this season i thought it was fantastic especially the way it wraps up and he even lives on sarah and john b get married happily ever after baby named jj yep yeah that moment when when i had to say like to bring it on home thing mind you like i have a bone to pick with the internet with all of that shit and like the fact that like that became a whole like tagline for season four and it was the last thing that i say in the show i was Like, and then we had an after party and the kid who drunkenly made that TikTok was at the after party. And I'm like, this is like, all right, it's gone so far off the deep end of this. Yeah. And so like saying it to the baby. They're like trolling you to your mate. This is like, could it be? We've gone meta, meta, meta. It was like quadruple meta. Yeah. So many different layers. And I was like at the point, you know, at the after party to where like I had had all the lovely conversations and had enough tequila soda to probably take out a horse. And this kid pops up and he's like, can we do it? And I saw the TikTok and it's like got enough use to make you want to vomit. I am out of this world. I'm not there. Not even saying the words. Was that this past weekend? I didn't see it. Okay. I did see that. I am just incoherent. And I'm pretty sure he wrote like he was so drunk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like we were leaving and I was trying to get out and he was just like, can I do this? I was a guy. And I was like, no. Yeah. Yeah. And it's incredibly hard. It's hard to say no to the guy. I know. Also, like, how did they track him down? They're so good at doing that and making like everyone having their moment because the fandom like I think especially with the Outer Banks fandom, they love to be acknowledged, you know? So it's like, yeah, you're not. I begged for years and this year I wasn't. And you hosted the podcast. I will say, like, when when you when we did that first, my first official podcast, making sure I say it directly to camera, like when that happened, we were like, we should find a we should find a spot for her. And there was one role that was like John B's ex-girlfriend. And it was like the party. Yeah. And I think the consensus was like, are they going to get this is like the weird world of like behind the scenes. We're like, are there is the audience going to get confused that she looks too similar to Sarah? And we were like, I don't I think they're pretty intelligent. You know, they pick up on all the other stuff. They can tell the difference between the two. And and that was like, I would have dyed my hair any color. I would have gone orange. I feel like I would have done anything. I would have chopped it off. John B's ex has blue hair. Yes. John B's ex with electric blue hair. She's a big emo girl. She listens to Panic at the Disco. No, but the fans were really such a big part of this show. No, it's exactly. And so dedicated. And so that fan event was awesome. You guys looked like you had a good time. It was super cool. Yeah. I mean, like totally unexpected. And that's just a testament to like, again, like Netflix, knowing the audience, knowing the world and knowing that the send off is so much bigger than just doing a premiere where it's not integrated with the fan base, because the show truly would not be shit if we didn't have the Internet and what TikTok did and what the global audience has done for us. Yeah. And like when I do do a little sleuthing from here and there because I'm human and we all sleuth. Yeah. Like you see some stuff sometimes and you're like, wow, OK, like this is a huge audience. Yeah. It's like going to Brazil and promoting a show in Brazil. So it's incredibly international. It is. Yeah. Like really, really international. I shot a movie in Bulgaria and I had to like travel with security because it was not safe. And that's been such a trip for me because like you sit in the comfort of your home sometimes and you're like, whatever, I'm going to go to Walmart. Yeah. And then you can't. Yeah. Like it's just shifted. Yeah. You know, the occasional sleuth here or there. But I feel like you guys have all had to adjust to that emerging and dead level of fame and now being on social media and all those things. And it's been an up and down journey for you. So now how do you feel like your relationship is with sort of sharing your life? It's I mean, it's definitely shifted. I think, you know, in the beginning, there's like this super interest and being like, oh, wow, people are invested in and intrigued to know who I am. But in the same respect, like. I'm OK with sharing it. Yeah. And then your life changes and you grow up and then things happen and people get way too invested or like have their own opinions on things. And you realize that you as an individual deserve privacy, whether you're a public facing figure or not. And what you choose to share, what you don't choose to share, like that's that's up to me. And so if people get pissed off about what I am or am not sharing or how much I'm promoting versus how much I'm not promoting or using my social media platform for ABCD versus promoting Outer Banks all the time. Like that's my like it's my platform. It's not Netflix's. It's my like the show gave me the platform and I'm forever grateful for it. But it's my personal platform. We have the Outer Banks page. It's High Chase Stokes. Exactly. That guy's still the actual Chase Stokes. He's still trying to sell me his account. I tried to buy it season one, tried to charge me like seven grand. And I was like, no. And he's like, what about now? You're like, no, no, no, no, no. You only bear the price gone up. I just I think I blocked him. Yeah, yeah. I blocked the actual Chase Stokes. That is your Instagram name. And also, you know, like you said, sharing on social media. Thank you for dealing with the crazy people like us who commentate on everything and get so involved in the show and everyone's lives. And you're absolutely correct in that. It really is up to you on what you share or don't share. Well, I told you when we talked after the podcast, like I part of being on this journey for the last seven years and being forward facing in the ways that I have, like I fully like tripped and fallen on my face and subject myself to like criticism. And I'm not like I can't sit there and be like, oh, like, pick me, choose me. And then like when I do stupid shit or like do something dumb to not be like, yeah, I was kind of fucking stupid. And we all do it. Yeah. But like, I get it. It's also it's your jobs. Like your job is to make sure that like what is happening in the world is being responsibly reported on. So like if I post some dumb shit or like if I do something that gets me in trouble in the media, like you guys have been a part of my journey. So I'm a part of your journey. So it all coexist. So like I told you, like I get it. It's part of it. And listen, you're not the first person. You're not the last person. We do it even as a podcast host when we say stupid shit. We do. We do. And we appreciate you coming in here and talking to us. We're so happy that this we were able to make this happen and finally have you in studio and everyone. Obviously, if you haven't streamed Outer Banks last season, go do it, of course, on Netflix. If you listen to this whole thing, sorry, we spoiled it for you. But it's like and I was absolutely raving about you after we did the Netflix podcast. I genuinely couldn't have done it. I had better things to say about you. I was so happy and thrilled. And stream the podcast. Yes. Stream it. But I really you left a mark with me with some of the stories that you told. So if people haven't listened, go listen to that, because I think people will hear some things that they should. Amazing. Very nice. Thank you so much. Yes. Thanks for having me. And I'm excited to see the new the new studio. And the only thing on the wall will be that I would die. It's just like a seat and it's just above. Yeah. Yeah. It's just going to really blow this thing up. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you. Appreciate it. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys so much. We'll be back on Wednesday. No episode on Friday this week, but we cannot wait to be in our brand new studio on Monday. All right, everyone. Talk to you on Wednesday. Yeah. Chicks in the Office. Long time listener. First time caller. First time caller. Uh-oh. Look at the charts. Who does it the best? Two chicks getting paid in reality checks. You can find them at the gym. It's not even a flex. Last minute red carpet flew them out on a jet. Yeah. They're who you want to be. They're always on your screen. Two queens and they might be spilling royalty. A lot of topics that are popping here to get into. I know a show that you probably want to listen to. Turn the heat up. Turn the beat up. Record the pod. Make a bag. Put their friends on the show. Who turn the heat up? Turn the beat up. Record the pod. Make a bag. Put their feet up. The ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up. Who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Thank you.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts, Ria and Fran, discuss their weekend, including attending a Jonas Brothers concert in New York during heavy rain, which disrupted plans but was still enjoyable.
  2. They recap their interview with Chase Stokes, the star of *Outer Banks*, which was recorded in their old studio before a renovation; he shared stories about his early acting career, including a fake manager email and a self-tape shot in the woods.
  3. *Outer Banks* has concluded after five seasons, with Stokes reflecting on the show's ending, filming locations like Barbados and Morocco, and the emotional final moments with co-stars Drew and JD.
  4. They touch on *Dancing with the Stars* cast confirmations, including Conor Leavitt and Julia Stiles, and praise Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi as a public couple, dismissing PR rumors.
  5. The Weekly Watch Report covers shows like *Surviving Barstool*, *Outer Banks*, *Lanterns*, and rewatches of *La La Land* and *Tony*, with grades and reactions.

Summary:

In this episode of *Chicks in the Office*, hosts Ria and Fran kick off with a Monday energy update, noting they’re out of New York City for the week and excited about their studio renovation. They recap a rainy weekend that disrupted plans but led to a fantastic Jonas Brothers concert on Friday, where they enjoyed the nostalgia of the Burning Up tour, complete with Joe Jonas’s new growl and fan interactions. The main highlight is their interview with Chase Stokes, their last guest in the old studio, who discussed the end of *Outer Banks* after seven years, his journey from a broke actor with $30,000 in credit card debt to stardom, and his habit of shaving his head after each season to shed the character.

He shared heartfelt moments, like a tearful goodbye with co-stars Drew and JD, and a funny story about getting in trouble in Barbados during quarantine. The hosts also cover *Dancing with the Stars* cast announcements, praising the range from Julia Stiles to Conor Leavitt, and gush over Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi’s public romance, rejecting PR speculation. In the Weekly Watch Report, they grade shows like *Surviving Barstool*, *Outer Banks*, *Lanterns*, and rewatches of *La La Land* and *Tony*, mixing humor with genuine recommendations.

The episode blends pop culture commentary, personal anecdotes, and an exclusive, heartfelt interview, ending with excitement for future projects.

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Chase Stokes, known for his role as John B in Outer Banks, was the guest. He re-hung a sign that said 'I would die for John B' and signed it as memorabilia.

He worked as a pizza boy and bartender, and even lied about being a food photographer to make ends meet. He also created a fake Gmail account pretending to be a manager to get an agent.

He claimed nine dependents on his taxes, thinking it meant nine out of ten, which resulted in the most money being taken away. His co-star Rudy had to explain the error.

He would shave his head on set on the last day of filming to shed the skin of his character and avoid being recognized in public. He also threw away items related to the season.

It ended the show with a satisfying conclusion, and he felt gratitude for the seven-year journey. He shared a poignant moment with co-stars Drew and JD, realizing it was their last interview together.

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