Charlie Kirk REACTION, Bill Gates Daughter & Deef BUYS Swift Wedding Memory | Julian Dorey

what's up everybody and welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dory podcast I am Julian Dory and I'm Joey D how you doing how you doing we got a little third wheel in the studio today by the way if you want to pop over so we can see you Joseph Scott Morgan get on in there hey all right he's he's on there good to see you as always my friend so if you've never seen Joseph Scott Morgan he has been the guy literally on every channel and now on the internet in recent years as well over the past say 15 years or so talking about anything forensics and death investigation as it pertains to any major case and so naturally as you would probably assume seeing as we are finally getting like some public hearings related to the evidence of Charlie Kirk's assassination last year I brought in Joseph this morning where we did over three hours just breaking down the facts of the actual shooting and what happened and the investigation and how it was carried out so like all the things that lead up to it and the theories related to that that's not what that podcast will be on but we're going to be putting that out on Monday it was really good stuff just going through how Joseph would have done it what the proper protocols are what the investigators did right some things that maybe they did wrong questions we got to get answered you know it's a very messy thing and obviously at the core of it someone was tragically killed and you know now people fight about it online all the time so I just want to make sure like if we do it especially since I'm not an expert on that at all and that hasn't been like my lane to really cover that I want to make sure we're bringing in people like Joseph who can at least like give you whatever he interprets as as the facts of of them to be and you guys at home can decide so thanks as always for coming in that was Joseph's fourth time on the podcast one time we did two episodes so really like fifth time but we'll be talking again at the end of the year we got some Zorro Ranch stuff to cover I know you're all over that we didn't get to that today so that's definitely going to help you it's going to happen but yeah we're going to talk about some of the early evidence we've seen come out in the curt case including some stuff we were just looking at that we didn't get to this morning with Joseph so we'll look at that and then you know Dave Bill Gates daughter you know joining in on the party and and continuing the Gates line in a of just creating just innovative tech innovative tech yes just straight up biz we'll talk about that interesting story there that feels like it's going under the radar but we'll try to bring that up to the surface and then of course you know the wedding of the century that you just you can't avert your eyes from wherever you turn they just keep telling you more about it yeah and you know things we didn't want to know but what's nice is there is some nice symbolism for the current state of Affairs in America hey guys if you're not following me on Spotify please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review they're both YouTube help thank you I spent 250 on trash from her I know 10 bags of trash for 10 bags of trash now what was in the trash well it's kind of like when you buy a storage unit you know you could you could buy one you can open it up and you find the Declaration of Independence or you find you know a bunch of you know used forks so I'm I'm going to open up each one on stream and see what we get oh so you haven't opened it yet no like they're like an unboxing waiting I'm gonna keep a few bags for the you know I'll see how long they last until the stench starts to overtake the apartment but those ones I'm going to hold on to right now did they ship them to you or did you have to go pick them up I picked them up at Madison now is it the homeless guys outside handling it or do you get it from the actual employees of Madison Square Garden no this was actually a college educated woman um she just kind of sees the opportunity you see a pile of trash you know it's from the big thing and she yeah oh private citizen yeah right outside okay so is it you know it's from the big thing and she yeah oh private citizen yeah right outside okay so is it in like a big black trash bag like you can't see any of the contents within yeah no it's they kind they didn't really do any sort they kind of just like hey you take this trash your problem now right I just had to pay up right now did you pay cash I paid cash you paid cash now what was the how big of a bag are we talking here um we're talking janitor size janitor size so industrial trash industrial trash okay that's correct now what did it smell like first whiff um money smelled like money and that's why I was glad I spent mine on it was there any Intel that you were able to glean from said individual about what section of this Madison Square literal Garden that they invented more on that later that this was potentially taken from like are we talking the desserts leftovers or like where they did some of the donations to charities that definitely aren't going to help kids and probably just going to pay salaries for people that are meaningless like what are we talking I heard Taylor Swift's wedding trash bag and I said how much that's right now I know some people that might have gotten trash bags that were from the locker rooms where they weren't even doing the wedding oh wow but not this guy so no one they didn't turn the locker rooms into like some highfalutin bathrooms for the wedding I mean I'm sure people did without permission but it wasn't it wasn't like hey this way yeah it would be interesting if that they made that like the Kia Club but for yeah you know it's like the exclusive lounge now I wonder if anyone was doing any audition you know like John Kiriakou famously talked about how they thought someone fished out Lincoln on April 14th 1865 and then they were later selling it at an auction and he actually bid a couple thousand dollars on it which you should never admit out loud but he really did he lost and they later found out it was not yeah Lincoln but it was from the 1800s the later 1800s which means someone had to actually go fish it out and then preserve it do we have any evidence that any of the employees were doing that like I don't know fishing out from any of the celebrities who were there I I would have met listen they're selling trash they're selling everything um what's Travis Kelsey's brother's name with the Jason Jason they were probably trimming his beard and selling that off oh so they were actually like going yeah now he gets after it like he is pretty drunk you probably could like get a little yeah he would just had his shirt off sweating everywhere probably so it was right you get this you get the sweat sweat selling nowadays you know what I'm really surprised at though is given all of your connections over the years that you've done in and around New York City in very elite circles of which you weren't a part but you got to witness certain things pause you know you didn't you didn't think to sneak in there for old time's sake no no no I need I need my vision and I need my hearing and when you step into a a place like that you're losing both you're losing both yeah they like zap you with like a microwave weapon yeah I heard her music is like a direct energy weapon and oh you went there yeah you went there great great poet great writer you know great writer great right great writer for sure all seriousness brilliant songwriter yeah who is that guy again um uh Charlie um Charles um Manson yeah he was a good writer too you know I heard that he had a couple listenable songs yeah I don't know if that was he was provocative yeah it was provocative I don't know if that came from his soul or if it came from whenever they injected into him via the MK Ultra program that's possible you could there's something to say about Swifties and MK Ultra there's definitely some sort of parallel we could draw but yeah that could be for another episode that could be for another episode for sure but since we're on it you know let's just finish this off once and for all so we can stop being overly invested in this but you know I do find it as a major red flag as someone who has not been married yet and would like to get it right on the first try when I do I find it as a major red flag that you have to sign a 40-page prenuptial I guess like form of uh prenup and whatever yeah you know is that is that ringing any alarm bells for you in the future of the uh happy couple no I mean for me it's it's prenup or nothing prenup or nothing and it's gonna be a single sentence on a page what's that you ain't getting nothing okay but um when people like this that don't wear human skin or get it it's a different type of marriage we can't relate to this sort of marriage we can't because we're human beings we can't I did see you know when we talk about like the parody of life I saw something on Twitter that you know you immediately register as haha that's a funny parody account joke and you're like I can't be real I didn't think to Google it until today this afternoon when I was talking about what a funny joke this was but Taylor Swift's PR agent I did check this out is quite literally named tree pain of course do we have that tweet on the link because whoever this was I I want to give them credit but this of the moment right here with the wedding but it says this is from Ed Ed and Eddington on Twitter at Goblin underscore formula the publicist of the woman gassing the atmosphere with her private Jets literally being named tree pain has convinced me that we live in a simulation created by a really uncreative person the one argument I have there is I think it's quite creative I I personally enjoyed that point but that is real that is her PR agent's name I wonder if she did PR for pain that's that's the first thing I was thinking like has she ever been to Wisconsin hi my name's T-Pain this is my PR uh tree pain that's right yeah it's funny that's right maybe she's the one that came up with those lines it could be mansion Wisconsin yeah yeah yeah bar I don't know how much the people in Wisconsin like that but T-Pain you a legend for that you've heard me talk about my dad and some of the issues he was having with energy once he got into his 50s the problem is as we age our bodies don't just snap back into shape like they did in our 20s my dad noticed that he was working out the same amount and eating pretty much the same foods but the fat around his stomach would just stick around and grow. 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And I remind you, this is in Madison Square Garden with the collective net worth in there was quite high. Rented this out on July 3rd of July 4th weekend in New York City, in the dead center of the city, closing things down for the weekend. Again, we love optics around here, and we love giving advice on optics around here. And the optics of this were a little questionable, but then you have over 30 cakes. Okay, I like a great idea. You go to a wedding, you want options, maybe there's cannoli over there. I like that. There's some cookies over there. I like that. A good chocolate bar. Everyone loves a good chocolate bar. Some fondue. Maybe you throw in an extra whiskey after dinner so you can get after it and go to the bar and have fun and fuck someone you don't remember later. Or you look there at Taylor Swift's wedding, and before you get to all that shit, which I'm sure they had, there were 30 different cakes of all these elite people, just so they could walk outside and tell the other people who can't come in, let them eat cake. Yeah. I mean, you know, again, you just, you gotta think, people. Like, I'm all for love. I'm all for celebrating things. I've never had anything against Taylor Swift. She is a brilliant songwriter and everything, and obviously a massive success. Good on her. But like, you know, you gotta think about where things are and how things look and what you're doing it for. I'm not one to tell you like, oh, this is exactly how you get married or do whatever. I'm a really simple guy. It won't be up to me. It'll be up to my future wife, I'm sure. But like, if it were up to me, I'd get married at City Hall with a couple witnesses, with a woman I love, and go privately on a honeymoon and not tell anyone about it. Like, that's all that matters to me. That said, other people, they want a big wedding, no problem. But like, when you put it on that much to the point that you have all the famous people coming there, signed NDAs to not disclose the things that are going to happen in there, when you are literally putting it on in the middle of the biggest city in the world, it's like a, it's like a Streisand effect on things. Just go get married somewhere, and like, hopefully people don't invade your privacy. They probably will. But I don't know. It just seemed like too much for me. Everyone I've talked to this week, including a lot of people who are enormous Taylor Swift fans, were like, you know, come on. And these are people that in the past, I've never heard them say a bad word about Taylor Swift. And I've actually, there's some things about Taylor Swift in the past that I've heard about her talking offline with people where like, she's very sweet and very understanding and very normal. And you hope that's true. But optics, Joey Deef, optics, not great. Not too great. Now, when is the great unboxing happening? Well, I'm going to probably do it this weekend. I'll probably go live and open a few bags, keep a few bags for resale value. On Twitch? On Twitch, live on Twitch. Now, are you going to bring in Clavicular from Israel to comment on this? If he's back in time. So not if he's still in Israel. Yeah. Okay. You know, it's funny. You just made me think about this whole thing with MSG. It's almost like the running of the bulls. Like I imagine all of these elites just running like the migrants through the streets and then they get them into MSG to have like one last battle with them for them to watch and enjoy. Well, it makes it easier because those that, you know, perish, you don't have to deport them. Yeah. Cost averted. Yeah. Yeah. Joseph Scott Morgan agrees. Yeah. You know, that's how it is. This is a satirical show. We're being facetious. Yes. And we're not being as facetious as Tim Dillon because my God, that was the greatest fucking clip I've seen in years. Yeah. Talking about this wedding. Totally. Holy shit. I was like, I was eating an avocado and it literally like projected out of my mouth when he started describing the, I don't even know if you're allowed to say this on YouTube. He got away with it. But the whole like, you know. How to get us back. How to get us back. I'll put it that way. You can go watch what he talked about when it was absolutely incredible. But, you know, again, when it's, you know how many times I've typed in Taylor Swift to my Twitter feed? Never. But every time, even on Twitter, Instagram, you open it up. Oh, so-and-so was at the wedding. Oh, so good. Like, is this what we're worried about now? Yeah. That's crazy. And now we, you know, jokes on me. I just gave it like 12 minutes on the show. Yeah, that was nice. They just got a lot of airtime. Whatever. They got their airtime. I wish the happy couple well. Not looking good, but you know, we'll see. Over, under two and a half years, give or take. Yeah. I wish them well. They'll do. They'll do. All right. Yeah. They'll do. All right. So we'll see Joey Deaves garbage live stream later. And, you know, I hope, I hope you find what you're looking for. Imagine I just find like body parts in there. Well, we got the guy right here who can go examine them afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. After the Epstein files, you never know these days. You never know what happens. I'm sure it was all clean fun. They had a good time and just, you know, took over an entire venue. It's fine. Probably very clean. But you heard me talk at the beginning about the Charlie Kirk, I guess like initial small evidence dump of what we've seen now again, there's so I think Joseph, correct me if I'm wrong here. When they end up doing the trial, it would be televised, correct? Because it's a state case. Yeah. Okay. Utah does televised. Okay. So just Scott Morgan's off camera, but he's saying Utah does do televised. So we'll get that. My understanding from other things I've read related to the case is that if, and when they do televised things, there'll be some stuff that'll be blacked out from the public that only the jury will see. Joseph Scott Morgan nodding again, two for two, we're doing well. But right now, what we can go off of and, you know, take that as you will, is a lot of people coming out, talking about, say the public videos that, or excuse me, the surveillance videos that have been released that only the people in the courtroom, including people that were there watching friends and family and stuff could see. So Deve, can you play that first video from Jack Morgan? Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So we're going to play that first video. Guys, here's a perfect example right here. So this video we're about to play of Jack Bozovich, we pulled up, it went live like very shortly before we went on air. So we were reacting to it. He is obviously reporting what he saw on the video that was played in court of Tyler Robinson. And right away when we were at this episode, Deve and I went and looked at Twitter and there's all kinds of community notes of other people who were in the courtroom claiming that what Jack Bozovich says he saw here as it relates to a trigger pull or things like that related to Tyler Robinson is not what was on the video. There's community notes. There's community notes about it. I haven't seen the video. I don't know what to believe, but there is a video of the prosecutor saying to the judge earlier in the week that no such video of Tyler Robinson pulling the trigger exists. So I will let you guys decide on this, but this is case A, why this case is such a mess. Anyway, here it is. Everything's been proven. I think it's, it's, I think it's, I think it's proven. It's, I would say beyond probable cause at this point. I think that the question for me is, is how to even get reasonable doubt when there's so much evidence. But the thing that I do just have to say is that I know that, um, you know, you guys watching on live stream couldn't see the, uh, the last video that was shown. Well, it wasn't edited. It was, it was zoomed in. It was zoomed in from the, uh, surveillance video off campus and specifically the part of, you know, the and you see everything you see everything he climbs over he assembles the gun he runs over to the edge you know gets down in a prone position and you see the the time and we all know what time and it just it's it was like so slow just watching those seconds click click click and then you see him take the shot yeah i tried to take the shot and then immediately runs and we've seen that video already but i i wasn't i knew we were going to watch that but i wasn't i wasn't prepared to see this side of what happened because we've never seen it before we saw the other end of the shot obviously but this was this was a whole other level of just evil and i got i got very upset watching it okay let's cut it right there that's there so one thing i do want to say out front these are the first couple days of preliminary hearings obviously we haven't even gotten to a trial yet if it goes to that we'll see what happens with you know whether or not tyler robinson follows through with that or pleads guilty or whatever but you know i've tried i've talked since the beginning and i know i mentioned it with joseph this morning on the podcast about the optics around this case and how off they've been from literally everyone involved and how much maybe a lack of transparency on some of the investigation that perhaps we're now going to get but you know whether it be mistakes like paving over all the place where he was fucking three two days ago i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know the event itself or open book shut book kind of case like nope this is what it is it was definitely only tyler robinson alone we're not no need to further investigate you know we'll just do the trial hopefully it's fast and nothing else to see here when it's the biggest political assassination in recent memory you know all these things are not a good look what i don't want to do on any level on either side of it is jump to a conclusion on what exactly happened and i have to admit i'm sure a lot of you guys out there can relate to this it's so hard these days to look at things people say or even evidence presented in anything and know what's real and what's not and i struggle with the world view of what everything is and what any institutions we've ever been told are when you see major stories like the epstein case break beyond even what we ever thought it was capable of and when you watch the continued coverage of the epstein case and the epstein case over up with a literal fuck you in your face that we have seen since then when you watch us drag ourselves into foreign wars again with no real end in sight that you know they keep saying we won we're over the and then they start again and you know these are promises that were that have been made by both parties over the years and apparently repeatedly broken and you see all these things happen and you see the wealth gap you see the elites you see the things where society is literally splitting at the seams in a smaller and smaller group of people and you see the of ultra wealthy seem to have control and as we referenced a few minutes ago with the taylor swift thing a little bit of a let them eat cake kind of laissez-faire attitude i don't know if that's the proper way to use that term do you put you get what i mean you know when you see all these things yes it makes you question everything and i'm going to continue to do that what i try to do is i try to come up to 30 000 feet in the air though and let things play out obviously sometimes i fail i'm a human but i do my best to let the evidence play out and i try to let the play out analyze it as i will when i have an opinion on something i'll tell you and you know you guys can decide whether i'm right or wrong and draw from the evidence whatever you want so right now in the limited information that we have it would appear that it's certainly something of note that we have a more full timeline what sounds like frame by frame of tyler robinson going up onto the building actually firing a shot getting off the building with the and maybe there's perhaps some explanation to fill in the very reasonable question marks that have been brought up in the past about how fast he could have gotten off the building when he had the gun in his pants things like that that certainly are very much in the public's interest to get those answered again that is according to what jack pozobiec reported but there are other people reporting that there was no showing of a gunshot and apparently the prosecutor said that as well so just want to reiterate that that said we are just hearing from someone who was in there who was a friend of charlie's and since the beginning has said it's tyler robinson no matter what and has said any other questions are irrelevant he is now the one coming out and telling you this is exactly what the footage showed and all that so what i'm saying is i do think and i don't know the legality here or when and if this is going to happen but like it will be in the public's interest for us to be able to actually see that footage and draw our own conclusions from it and i will admit it's like you know and joseph i'm sure this is where it gets crazy but your mind sometimes goes to like well could they have ai'd some of this to make it conveniently wrap up like a bow that's not a question i would have asked five years ago maybe i should have but like am i crazy to ask that i don't think so but i also don't want to live in a world where i never fucking like anything i see i'm like well no that's it's definitely the opposite you know what i mean it's a tough balance to strike and in the year 2026 it is the hardest year ever to strike that balance so when i show you these things we're reporting on what we're being told and you guys can decide whether you believe it or not is that how do i deal with that yeah simulacra and simulation yeah we can't even discern reality anymore well i mean even when you were speaking with joseph earlier this morning he was talking about how like people don't really capture the weight of death you know you don't get the smell of the blood yeah you don't so people's you could even use the war people's perception of war is headlines talking heads debates online they don't feel the explosions they don't hear the cries of help and death so what they get is the simulacrum of war not the reality of it and we are so far gone from reality that we're now living in the simulacrum of our old reality wherever the fuck that might be and so that's why we're having these issues we're sitting here and we can't discern reality because reality doesn't exist anymore yeah we're living in this hyper simulation where you guys said today when's the last time anyone's brought up the trump assassination oh we forgot yeah because we're we're moving at hyper speed yep and i i think it's also a matter of like we were talking at least off camera about the chaos of it we might have gotten into this a little bit on camera as well but like everything happens in so fast and it can then be analyzed from a hundred different angles frame by frame every single thing that happens and anything can look suspicious and by the way maybe it is maybe it is very suspicious that the guy went up you know whatever it was three minutes after the body was taken out of there and removed the camera and removed the sim card and handed it to somebody like that's kind of weird or it was just a guy who was like shell shocked he's like oh it's a camera i go so i should take that yeah i should make sure i get that so no one else does yeah either one could be the explanation one of the other one could be the explanation one of the other one could be the explanation one of the other one could be the explanation one is extremely bad one is like a normal kind of reaction and they both have i don't know like a similar probability and it'll be interesting to see how those blanks are filled in at trial if they're filled in yeah by by the prosecution everything but you know to go beyond what we talked about with joseph on the podcast this morning because it's again joseph was in here to go through really the forensics and the details of the evidence on the ground and stuff like that not all the other noise surrounding this but obviously candace owens has covered this case a lot and talks about like israeli connections and things like that and the relationship charlie had with some of his pro-israeli friends and how he didn't believe in the cause towards the end of his life which has been verified and things like that and therefore that means that they killed him and whatever i don't know i will say it's weird the hamptons meeting with ackman is weird you know the wife is weird like that it it just is and the way that she's reacted publicly in some of her previous history it's all weird that can be true at the same time that like somebody also you know just didn't like him and killed him now the boyfriend did i guess partner the partner lance twiggs is that his name twiggs yeah okay he gave a deposition in the spring that was played some of it at this preliminary hearing where he started to go through you know i guess like some color commentary on their relationship and one of the things that he said is that they didn't discuss like a like a lot of politics but particularly i believe what he what he said when i looked at transcript is like they never discussed charlie or questions surrounding that and then he went with the what has been put out as the narrative that yes you know tyler texted me and said i did this and then confirmed it to him in person everything and to play devil's advocate on that he has received partial immunity here and if people wanted to you know have the suspicious look on it you could say well he's being coached to say that and that's what he has to say to open shut case it that's possible it's certainly possible i don't know i'm not in the rooms but again he also disappeared for a little bit right after the case that was kind of weird like There are certainly weird things with it, and you don't know, like, when someone like this, if in fact Tyler Robinson acted alone and did in fact kill Charlie Kirk, if that is the case, when someone like this breaks and does something so irrational and crazy like that, the key word is irrational. They're not a rational person. They don't process the, it's a Captain Obvious statement, but they don't process the world like you and I do. They're not in a normal state of mind. Going, I think it was reported he went and, like, got a meal in Dairy Queen later, and then after Lance Twiggs purports that when he confirmed it with him in person, he said something like, Lance said something like, Tyler just went about doing chores or something just to keep his mind off it, which to us, that's clearly not normal behavior at all, but this would, in that theory, not be a normal person because he just blew someone away because he's. You know, that's not something normal people do, so that's another thing where I struggle with it. It's like to put your mind in the mind of someone who might even, you know, not to put a medical term on it, but have some schizo tendencies, I don't know, it's difficult. It's difficult, and it should be difficult for all of you out there because you've never had those thoughts or gone to do something like that, so that's certainly odd, but Joseph and I spent a lot of time talking about this. We spent a lot of time talking about the 30-06 bullet and how that whole thing works and what the possibilities were there, and we went through some of the, actually, like even some cringe tweets that were put out about that, trying to call it a miracle that it didn't go through later, and Joseph certainly had some words on that, but they did release, we saw this, Steve, they released photos of the bullet in court yesterday afternoon. Do we have that link? Yeah, I have it right here. So we can pull that up. Okay, so this includes a ruler just in centimeters, just to give you an idea of like the size, but what you're looking at is, as far as I know, the first publicly released exhibit of the, Joseph, would the proper term be the mushroomed bullet right there? Yeah. Is that how you describe it? Yeah, it would be mushroomed. You can see the base, the right, the image on your right, you can see the base of it, it's kind of circular. Okay, the base kind of circular, got it. Yeah, that's where we. That's where we would determine the caliber of the weapon, but there's no appreciable rifling. You know, we talked about the, I think in our comments today, we talked about the lands and grooves inside of a rifle, and those twists that you have, and that leaves marks on the long axis of the projectiles that's going down the barrel. This is the reason they could not, they could not include or exclude rifling. I think that's the reason they could not include rifling. Relative to this, as far as matching to the weapon ballistically, but they did confirm that it was a.30-06. Got it. Yep. Okay. So, again, it's a start, as far as like us getting some information on this, we're going to need to continue to get a lot of blanks filled in. It was also cool, I forgot about this, we had Clint Russell, who's been on my podcast, he was on a couple months ago, he, I was able to FaceTime him a couple hours into the podcast, and then we turned the FaceTime around. And he's obviously. He's obviously been knee-deep in covering all the details of this case, so he got to raise, I think it was about five different points that were certainly great questions about things that were weird around the investigation of the case and things like that, and then Joseph, after Clint went through all that, Joseph kind of went through each bullet point and things that remain unexplained, some things that maybe are explainable, etc. So, I'll let that speak for itself there, but what do we have, another like two, three days? Do we have a set of hearings here, or is it done right now? It's completely done. So, we just finished it today, it was at day five. All right. So, this is what we have right now, and then there'll be some sort of trial date if it does go to trial in this case, but, you know, I want to see that video that Jack Pazobiec talked about, and again, like, I need to see it as well, because like Jack Pazobiec is also a guy that held up the Epstein binders outside the White House, like, oh, here we go, nothing to see after that. It's like, no offense, but I'm going to need, I'm going to need my own two eyes on that, for sure, but we'll continue to watch this, and then if there's relevant information to cover, obviously, we'll do some more podcasts on it, but this was really, today, doing that one, that was the first full-blown, full-blown soiree into it we've done. I think it was right to have you come do it with us, Joseph, so thanks for doing that. All right. Now. Oh, some more optics here. Caroline Leavitt. I remember when Karine Jean-Pierre was the press secretary for the Biden White House, and I thought, you know, I thought to myself, I'm like, I understand these people are paid liars to some degree in every administration. I wasn't born yesterday, but I'm like, it can't get worse than this. I'm like, this lady. This lady comes out here, and she does it. Karine Jean-Pierre didn't even try. I mean, she would just read off. She literally wouldn't even tell you the lie. She'd read off the lie and then look at you. Yeah, uh-huh. And, you know, then she leaves the White House and writes a book called Middle Ground. Why I'm not, why I'm leaving the Democrats or something like that. It's like, all right, lady, come on. We get it. And I'm like, you know, the optics, they can't get worse. And I'm not saying they've gotten worse, but we're at a point where it might be as bad. Caroline Leavitt. Is what, 28, 29 years old? 28. Bless her little heart. You know, I'm not a judger around here. Love is love. As long as it's legal, you find what you want. But she's married to what, a 62-year-old guy? Yeah. What's his net worth? I'm going to need a second here. All right, let's give Joey Deef a second. Find his net worth. It's enough to buy her lip filler, for sure. I know that. By the way, to all the girls out there. To chill with the lip filler. He's sitting around six mil. He's sitting, six mil? Yeah, that's what it says. I've heard more than that. So the internet says. Yeah, let's, what was his business? He's a real estate developer. Yeah. Wealthy real estate guy. How did she meet him again? He was connected directly to somebody. Yeah, let's see here. Somebody in that orbit. It was during a congressional campaign in New Hampshire. Okay, and she was, what was her involvement in that campaign again? That's what it was. She was running. All right, so she had aspirations. So she didn't win that congressional seat or whatever, but she met her future husband who's more than twice her age. Fine. Okay, you know, you're allowed to do that and everything. But can we play the comments that she made this week in regard to? I have this headline here with the quote. I just need to pull the video. That's the case. Okay, yeah, grab the video right there. You have to have, again, I'm not criticizing women who happen to marry into some wealth. I won't criticize women who get into a legal marriage that maybe has, you know, fucking enormous age gap. She's had a couple kids with the guy, you know, seems to love doing the mom thing and all that. But when you are living in a country where, as we have covered a million times on this show, the wealth gap continues. Continues to be at historically disproportionate levels where young talent coming out of college has some of the worst optionality that we've had in any type of economy, let alone a quote-unquote booming economy in a long, long time, at the very least, when, you know, groceries fucking double in price, it feels like, every two years. When the average, when half of Americans, the median American doesn't have more than $500 in emergency funding when you're printing literal trillionaires now through IPOs, and you have a disproportionate number of billionaires who are taking more from a winner-take-all system. Again, I say this as someone who believes in capitalism, but actually recognizes its flaws. Like, you have to read the room, especially when you are commenting on behalf of a White House administration that got into office claiming, to care about the working man, and claiming to care about the American dream, and the future of this country for the next generations. That is literally what Donald Trump ran on, if I'm oversimplifying it. But that, that is what, that is among the main themes that he ran on, when optically, those are all the things that you have said and promised. And when you are a woman who is married into wealth with a dude twice your age, don't make these comments about your generation. I'll let Carolyn Levitt be heard right here. I'm here right now. Some of these kids, and I call them kids because they're in their 20s, and they've never had real jobs, and they're complaining things are expensive. Yes, things are expensive when you don't have a real job. That's right. Do you think that's getting traction, complaining? Unfortunately, I do, because this generation, my generation, I hate to say it, Gen Z and those younger than me, have been raised with just silver spoons in their mouths, just getting everything handed to them. That's not the values this country was built on. No. and hard work, pulling up your sleeves, pulling yourself up from your bootstraps, and achieving the american dream and we need to protect it with all we got laziness a little bit is it because the professor said country's corrupt it's evil and we just need to shake them down and hand money out it's laziness and it's the liberal indoctrination you bring up a great point about our education system however i will say a silver lining so many parents that i talk to across the country are homeschooling are turning to private education are turning towards christian schools across the country because they don't want their children being taught these communist and liberal ideas slam down their throats why president trump and our and the white house has advocated so strongly for school choice across the country we want kids to be taught to love our country they should it is the greatest country in the history of the world all right i say you know if they misbehave just make all these young kids join the army right shape them up i almost had to send them to cuba they'll want to come back that's a good point they can say hi to the gay ayatollah thank you so much and welcome back caroline okay the comments by the way about the education system and a lot being broken there she's not wrong about that even if her solutions may be a little different than mine like she's not wrong about that we have a lot of problems with the education system in this country for sure so let's be fair on that i forgot even about the optics at the end of that talking about sending kids to iran while this administration fucking got us into this war after following apparently the request of a foreign country of nine million people that said we had to fucking get into it we've lost 13 of our guys and they keep trying to pressure this deal to fall through which has been a whole nother thing this week by the way so that we eventually put fucking boots on the ground there and you know she's joking about fucking sending people to iran while she speaks for the white house fuck you that's bullshit and you've heard me rip jesse waters before talking about how 13 casualties who care yeah because it's not your fucking kids pal like a human life is a human life and you know i got the utmost respect for the men and women in the military and i think it should go without saying we we should all take it pretty seriously that if they're going to go into harm's way to protect us it'd be something that the people here actually believe in and that it be a matter of actual real national security where we are under threat and not just because we want to go kick a fucking hornet's nest that we don't like somewhere again that's not an argument to say iran's government's good they fucking suck i've said that a million times but like a lot of other things going on here so again not smart to say that on the end but the the the this of this conversation that was leading to jesse waters asking her about this is of course you know they're talking about the rise of socialism and what in some places may feel like communism and that type of ideology that's happening whether you see it in the election of mom donnie or the recent elections in some of the primaries where candidates backed by mom donnie or on a similar platform across the country were able to win and they're just ripping it and poo-pooing and shooing as if you know they just don't get it and they're lazy and they're not trying i just hired a girl amanda shout out to amanda she's had the the first week on the team doing a great job who's a year out of college major minor extremely smart great grades works her ass off doesn't ask for doesn't expect anything and when i got her in here for an interview she on one platform alone she had applied for two hundred two fifty two jobs something like that on indeed okay just indeed she's been a year out of college she went to a good school and has been unable to get like the type of job that she wants to get many of her friends are in the same boat with the exception of some of the really high level engineers who have gotten government jobs to be clear she is extremely aware really smart girl really aware of also like what some of the sacrifices quote-unquote if that's what you want to call it like gen z is even making with spending like for example i think she was telling us her generation spends twenty percent less on on liquor and alcohol than the previous two generations or something like that you know like they're not spending on some of the things that they're being accused of spending on the prices aren't too high because they're lazy and don't get jobs the opportunities to get a job are not there nearly as much and the ones who do get a job are being paid salaries that have not increased with the amount of inflation over the past five years even a little bit i mean we were talking about it deep but like i had grocery bills that two years ago were about 175 180 dollars maybe 185 dollars they're 335 now 340 i'm buying the same shit i can pull up the receipts of what i bought you feel it week after week you feel it week after week going it like it'll just go up like ten dollars or twenty dollars over a two-week span and i'm like how did that i'm getting the same shit yep and and again stock market just go up but who are the people who get to really participate in the stock market the people with a lot of money so i'm not one of these people that sit that wants to sit here and be like let's just be victim mentality woe is us woe is the younger generations therefore fuck you but you have to look at the root cause of why people check out of the system this is a term joey deef has used that i love where you and maybe you can explain joey deef but when you're talking about kids in their twenties you've said before they've never had a chance to be a part of the system so they've checked out of something am i getting this right that that they were never invited into in the first place yeah i mean it's just the idea that you know you do all the things that you said that people told you you should do you know you went to college and we're not talking about people who get you know a silly degree or whatever like a real degree an employable degree you do the right things you come out a lot of these kids they don't have a 401k they don't have money they don't have money in their savings they don't own anything right um it's not to say right or wrong but the system that they bought into they're not getting any sort of benefit or at least that they perceive as benefits so they're going to fall victim to these other options yep someone comes to them and says you know what you're upset you were told to believe in something you took all the right steps it's not working out for you you're young enough that it can just follow me you follow that and then if that person happens to have some ideas that historically don't work in action maybe you don't know that but maybe because the other system that you're told works clearly ain't working for you you're willing to roll the dice and take that shot again if you want to sit here and just complain about people becoming socialist or whatever great that's not going to do anything you have to diagnose the problem and try to understand why that's happening and that we've talked about it before but that's why mom donnie was so afraid of him and he was so afraid of him that he was so afraid of him that he was so afraid of him as a candidate forget his ideas and what you think of that i don't think his ideas work i think history backs me up on that but like as a sleazy politician he's talented as hell and he went out and he spoke to people where they were and asked them what the biggest problem was and they said i don't have money in my pocket and he said what if i could help with that that's what people are going to respond to people want to have the freedom to know that they can pay their bills and i don't care where it comes from hopefully it's bipartisan hopefully all these scumbags come together and they go all right well we got to figure out how we're going to deal with this and we got to figure this out without you know the government sticking their hands and fucking everything because we've seen that i mean fat electrician that electrician laid out that where that goes wrong i think really well yeah you know yeah it's tough man it's tough i'm not sitting here by the way i i don't want to be misheard and pretend like ah these are such easy answers you know we're we're gonna we're gonna figure it out right away like there's a lot of hard conversations to have to be had but you know when you look at like what fat electrician was talking about in episode 446 that we just put out you know he really goes in on social security and what the downstream mathematical problems with that are and he's right and i know he's right and a lot of people know he's right but the problem is you have people with no term limits in congress and in senate who the minute they come out and say you know what i support just taking a look at social security and starting to figure out this problem they're gone they're out of office you're you're out like you are going to be voted out in the next election since you don't have term limits and they're career politicians they are not incentivized to do that so let's just look at the ground floor before we even get to like solving the problems well the people who are responsible for like i don't know cashing the fucking checks to solve the problems need to be put in a position where they actually can do that and i'm not i'm not just picking on social security i'm using that as an example because that's a recent one but like these are these are difficult things and you could sit there and fucking complain on fox news and make fun of everyone because you just don't like them and your life's a lot easier or working in the white house you could actually fucking do something about that i don't know food for thought fired up about that get money out of politics that's right that's right uh bill gates daughter though oh yeah bill gates daughter gets it yeah she she is she is someone who never checked out of the system. - No, she actually knows how to play the system. knows how to play the system in fact you could argue she is the system yeah she was born into it and had she's she's the rightful heiress of it but you know god i just i i love it when the when the gates family is in the news it's just too much fun let's let's just pull this up yeah let's get into it so what was she 23 years old defense um yeah let's confirm that real quick uh something like something like that yeah we'll confirm it on your spec let's pure spec that we'll pure spec it she's 23 24 25 right in there gen z gen this is a non-lazy gen z-er listen deef yeah you and i we both know our dear friend matt fraught matt matt cox very well he always talks about it he doesn't like lazy fraud yeah he doesn't like lazy fraud he likes good fraud and i don't like lazy nepo babies that's right i do feel like the intentions here were working hard it's just the result happened to be not great fraud which some people might call lazy so maybe you have to take back the compliment about you know her being in gen z and you know i kind of feel like in a way and maybe i'm totally missing the mark this is kind of similar to drake being like i wasn't trying to hide my son from the world i was trying to hide the world from my son that but the truth is it's a bar you know what i mean it's a bar it's a tote bar but this is from bloomberg recent investigation right here shout out to bloomberg gates airs shopping app claimed sales it didn't drive we're gonna explain here we go scroll down so fia an advertising startup co-founded by phoebe gates i love how she did a little she like played on her name yeah that's kind of cute daughter of billionaire microsoft corp co-founder bill gates bills itself as quote a personal shopping assistant unquote that helps users find the lowest prices on a broad range of clothes and fashion accessories you know how it is you're online good intention good intention you're trying to shop you're looking at those shirts right when i'm looking at those shirts on zara sometimes the 39.99 but if you find that right fucking code it's 29.99 somewhere in there maybe inflation's brought it up now and now you can get six where you were going to get four and it's the classic elite move how do we get six where you were going to get four and it's the classic elite move how do i solve a problem that i don't have to deal with that's exactly right and make money off helping solve that problem because this is a problem it's like it's a problem it's a huge problem it's a problem like you look down from your cliffside estate yeah and you look at all you know these plebeians down below who are carrying things up the street carrying their own grocery bags maybe we'll talk about that later you're dressed in designer like your loungewear that you're sitting in and watching them is like two thousand dollars but it's very comfortable yeah it's comfortable it's very comfortable and so you know what heaven feels like and you look down on hell and you go you know yes the temperature looks a little hot down there i know it's lower in the climate so technically well maybe it should be hotter down there i'm not a scientist either way those people we need to bring them some happiness yeah yeah they can't afford this two thousand dollar gucci fucking shirt but you know what they can't afford they can't afford that zara that's can afford if we bring the prices down at zara who's the ceo at zara probably some he's uh from they're from spain so it's probably a spanish all right well you know what the elite they don't care about the spanish all right they're like you know what fuck this guy oscar garcia okay so they sit there and they say whatever your name is all due respect you're gonna be the one that has to make a little sacrifice here and we're gonna make a business on this so that everyone down there can wear clothes so they can at least feel like a little bit better and he's like listen we make these an indonesian sweatshop anyway so if you tell me all i gotta do is cut them five bucks off we're still making 500 profit on this thing let's do it no maybe you just go in there and the average person working in there is you know 25 30 years old you go to the floor shift manager this oscar guy you know he flies in there in his private jet walks down into this fucking sweatshop and he goes hey listen bill let me cut some costs around here i was seeing a lot of 30 year olds they're past their prime outside bunch of nine-year-olds playing soccer playing soccer with a little piece of leather we need that kind of grit you get that in here they cost half price now we make 30 percent more even if we're giving that 20 discount doing it bill gates is that's it you're like guys that's it grow up enough playing games you're nine years old get on the assembly get a job get a job get a job you lazy fuck don't you want don't you want to have stock don't you want to have steak in the system that's right get the fuck in the factory we got kids in brooklyn who don't want to work you guys are sitting here playing soccer that's right that's right soccer you're not the next fucking pele you're not messy all right get in here get those hands are moving you're gonna make about 40 cents an hour it'll be worth it and after six months of work you're gonna be able to purchase your first penny stock and you're gonna get to see what you're gonna get to see dividends really look aerotine international that's right can't go wrong all right right now john right now if you know you know but phoebe here did want to help the plebeians out as we said so the way it works is download the fia tool onto a web browser use it while shopping and voila the so-called extension can quickly find discount codes for products businesses like these known in industry parlance as affiliate marketing programs typically collect a commission from retailers that make the money and they're going to be able to get the money and they're going to get the resulting sale but according to ben adleman an independent researcher and consultant who studies affiliate marketing as well as capital one shopping which makes a competing browser extension fia is claiming credit for online sales that didn't actually drive oh no phoebe no in violation of many digital platforms policies fraud is usually a violation bloomberg tested oh they went in and did it themselves wow investigation i hope they screen recorded they definitely did bloomberg tested the fia mobile browser extension across more than 50 websites and found that during the checkout process fia opened a background tab without user interaction and injected kind of like her father does its own referral oh its own referral code that overrode legitimate referrals from other publishers these findings were consistent with capital one shopping and they even used fia's code to keep in the code her dad's good at codes that tech testing involved using the extension like a regular shopper and observing how it communicates with other sites and its own servers the most fundamental requirement in affiliate marketing is that commission is only paid if a user clicks this makes sense yeah like if the user is using your link you get credit if they're not you don't it's easy said adleman who has spent decades exposing what he says are deceptive practices and digital advertising adleman spoke to bloomberg after reviewing fia's code which is public and testing how the extension interacts with retailers websites and affiliate networks at bloomberg's request the rules don't allow fake clicks simulated clicks imaginary clicks or hypothetical clicks only a real click will do capital one shopping a discount shopping tool previously known as wiki buy that was bought by capital one financial corp in 2018 highlighted similar foundings from its own testing let's go down right here so they showed that fia's extension silently opening a background tab linking the retailer's website with its own affiliate code to ensure its cookie was set so they're using those cookie things we always hear about in the background to basically like yeah leech off of someone else's work and get the credit yeah now listen if we go down deep uh-huh this this this is what's what's really important here keep going keep going there there's a by the way if you guys want to go see this article definitely archive.is and check it out like they explain you know right there yeah there's a lot more details into them nailing the iterations of everyone obviously who tried it these different houses that they explained who tried it independently and how it was all proven over and over again to be the case but what's really really important is that and and i don't want to get lost here some great people could get hurt by this so we have to be careful about how we how we phrase this and you know put this story on to the lexicon because i i i know a lot of these people could lose their entire livelihoods over this but fia was launched by phoebe gates 23 there it is and sophia kiani in 2025 the company has raised a total of 43.5 million dollars nice fred you know it's nice that bill gates made her go out and raise her own i just need two 50 right i just need two 50 and we got a motion picture that's it come on that's it come on no break me off but like he said you know what he said to his daughter you're gonna go out there and pull yourself up by the bootstraps and you're gonna go find your own investments capital and take your own risk and i will definitely not connect you with a bunch of people i know anyway the 43.5 million dollar came from investors including notable capital kleiner perkins kozla ventures and a raft of celebrities like sydney sweeney chloe kardashian and hayley bieber former meta platforms inc chief operating officer cheryl fucking sandberg is also an investor she's literally like been the number two most important person known at facebook forever phoebe here went out and tried to find her own people and god damn it she landed on some of the best she stepped in shit She stepped in great shit, golden shit. Golden shit. Golden shit. Fia's app has been downloaded more than 1.2 million times. I'm sure none of those times were in like Bangladesh or India and some bot farms. They would never. This is a clean, outstanding company. Yeah, it's all clean. Pure spec there. Pure spec. I'm sure they would never, ever do that. And no one in the comments section right now could. They're doing legitimate business. It's legit business. So that was in the past 12 months. 1.2 million times. And it's built as a personal shopping assistant. It lets you compare prices and find secondhand versions of fashion items. Oh, so secondhand too. This is something Phoebe would totally buy. It also draws the web for discount codes that could be applied at checkout. Fia may earn a commission if a shopper uses its browser extension in a way that leads to a sale. For example, by using to apply a discount code. But Bloomberg's testing found that Fia's browser extension takes credit for a sale even if no action is taken by the user. To do so, Fia utilizes the cookie stuffing. Tactic. That sounds so delicious. Cookie stuffing. I'm getting fucking hungry thinking about it. Silently adding a tracking code to the retailer's web address. Now, I want to be clear. Fia was reached for comment. It's somewhere in this article. And they immediately turned off the system and said it was a mistake. Totally explainable. Absolutely, we're not trying to do this. And, you know, I'm sure there's no investigation necessary there for sure. Read the article. Read this one. Oh, there's more. But there's more! Billy Mays here for Fia! This is good. This is not the first time Fia has faced troubling allegations. Last year, security researchers found that Fia was logging users' web browsing history, including snapshots showing the content of pages visited, according to a Fortune report. This included sensitive data such as bank statements and private email accounts which were transmitted back to Fia's servers that I'm sure, I am sure, guys like Peter Thiel have no use for this whatsoever, right? They don't have any interest in what we do, where we're going, our privacy, where our money is that is all online and, you know, is just faridest out in the universe and everything that, you know, maybe at the click of a button could all be gone. They don't. There's nothing here that screams like, nothing, nothing, nothing, whatever. And, I don't know, I don't hear that in any of this, Steve. I just love the next line. Fia said at the time that it logged web page content to, quote, "understand if this site was a shopping." We just had to get your bank info. That's right. Because we think you might like this site. That's why we did it. Yes. We want to know how much you're able to spend with us. That's it. Yes, that's all we want to know and how we can get that out of your bank account into our Gates Trust Fund. Right? Yeah, that's just great biz, man. Which, by the way, a little side note here just for a sec before we close this loop. Did you see the video, I hate to say it, but a guy I like a lot, Bryce Harper, the Phillies star on FanDuel? No. Okay. So, the Philadelphia Inquirer, this is a little sidebar this week, the Philadelphia Inquirer ran a report this week about a guy named Terry, they released his last name too, I can't remember his last name, who lost $1.5 million. And all of his life savings over a few years with FanDuel, basically making in-game prop bets over and over and over again. And is now in gambling addiction therapy and everything. And the reason that they ran this report is because, and this is actually relevant to something we did on the show recently with Luis Ruggiero. But, is it Ruggiero or Ruggiero? My dyslexia right there is killing me. Ruggiero. Ruggiero. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Lose his man. But anyway, so basically Bryce Harper, as a FanDuel partner, was asked to record a Thanksgiving Day video for Terry, who was lit by the loyalty program at FanDuel, when Terry was listed as a VIP of the company. Where Bryce, can we pull up the Bryce video? Yeah, let me see if I can get that. Where Bryce gives him a personalized message and, you know, says he hopes he has a thanksgiving mentions some names of people in his family and says thank you for being a fan to a partner and then the loyalty person can follow up on it and say hey was really glad to do that for you by the way we got x y and z gambling offers for you this evening now if you listened to episode 431 with lewis i yeah can we play this real fast and then i'll make that point yeah hey terry what's up brother hey man your host britney from fan duel wanted to make sure your thanksgiving was extra special so i just want to hop on here and wish you and your family a wonderful thanksgiving tell me i said hello um i appreciate all the support through the years and i just hope you have a great day enjoy it and uh we'll see you soon bye okay so you know it's like it's like a little bullshit cameo you video where he's clearly reading the script down there all right thanks yeah okay sounds like he just like woke up from a nap like he woke up from a nap like and they're like oh 50 grand just record oh okay all right got it but i i want to reiterate a couple points here they're really important i i do believe in free markets and free will and choice and stuff like that i i think things even that i don't think are positive in many cases i don't want to speak for everything right now but a lot of things should be legal and that you know people do have to have a level of free will and stuff and i think you know you want to go gamble to casino and do stuff like that and go to blackjack tables or go to slot machines it's not my cup of tea to go to those machines and do that i'm never going to do that but like if you want to do that you're free to do that it doesn't make those businesses not seedy in certain ways with you know ways that they can also prey upon people what i do think has gone way too far is the idea that people just have the ability to gamble on fucking anything sitting in their pocket at all times such that if they have a predilection to that kind of behavior they can be preyed upon like a drug addict and lewis explained that because you know he was a massive gambling addict and it was preyed upon he talks about these loyalty programs and about fan duel and draft kings and these people that would come to him and encourage him to play more to the point that he was gambling away and he was gambling away and he was gambling away and he was gambling away all his life savings and screwing over his family and stuff and so yes people you know people also have problems and there's a level of responsibility there i'm not saying like it's there's not blame all around here but i had before we brought lewis in a few weeks before i thought about this some more i try i try to be very very careful with what brands we bring on the show it doesn't mean i always get it right but like i've always i mean deep does the bets with me like we turn down stuff i'm from like no no like like even if there's a question on it but one thing in the past that i'd done some ads for was like draft kings and prize picks to be specific and they were simple ads like oh you want to bet on if fucking saquon barkley is gonna have more touchdowns or whatever or if if you want to bet on the vibe whatever parlay shit i never thought about and it's like i'd have the app right there it's never been my cup of tea the company's sponsored us i could play five dollars right here and be like oh look i won or lost i don't feel anything with it it's not something i do long term or anything like that or sit there and make fucking 40 bets that's just not what i get off on so i didn't think of it too much as like oh this is a big deal and then i started to look at this issue more especially like in the winter and spring and i i called up the company we work with on brands and i said no more gambling ads no more and it's not because i think gambling should all be illegal or anything like that but i don't think that it is something that especially for people who may have a predilection to that should be promoted widespread to the point that people who may be listening to my show hear me who doesn't have a predilection to that say yeah go play this app and then they do it and you have someone like terry turn up that way it's just not to be a part of and so you have now seen such a widespread mass legalization of everything gambling that happens to the point that you know you can go bet on polymarket and all these companies and everything and to the point that the literal athletes in sports are being paid partners for the companies that gamble on their games that they're supposed to not have any involvement with whatsoever like those gray line those black and white lines have become so great that they're a different color altogether and like love bryce harper is a player everything i he's a philly guy everything i've known about him in the past like people love him really good dude but like i hope he does address this and i i i hope we don't see any more shit like this and stuff like these loyalty programs should probably be shut down it's wrong it preys upon people especially people who may have that kind of addiction and that is just cringe all the way and shout out to the philadelphia inquirer doing a great report on the whole thing and and to the guy terry who i guess came forward and talked about this a little bit hopefully that gets some people's attention but yeah it's just i don't know there's like there's things especially in my business there's things that can happen really fast sometimes and you don't think about it all the way way and i think that's something i hadn't thought of all the way and you know that's why when i had lewis in we talked about this as well in the podcast and i explained that why we don't do those ads anymore and you know i i just i think i i think unfortunately things have gone a little too far right there so that's kind of what that is but closing the loop on miss phoebe right here essentially you know innocent before proven guilty as they say in the courts of law joey we got to be fair yeah this is america god damn it and phoebe gates maybe maybe maybe it was all just an honest mistake there was one rogue cookie yeah and they the cookie turned into the cookie monster and just started devouring all these links and i'm sure the engineer it wasn't her it was the engineers they wrote that off with his head he's probably from ukraine send him back get him out right get him out get him out it was the engineer and i'm sure there's a great explanation i'm sure there will be no reason for the government to investigate it i know they won't i did there's there's been no crime here and and there's no special treatment or anything but yeah you know we got to make sure what was it chloe kardashian doesn't doesn't lose her back she'll be all right will she be all right no they're gonna really pay the consequences on this one they're gonna pay it but you know you just love it when the gates family injects their ideas into society and it just provides a great benefit for everybody yeah yeah they do good biz they do they they do great they always outshine the competition too they do outshine the competition now you know can we pull up that grocery lady video you gotta love some influencers in the wild okay the influencers in the wild always get me because i'm gonna show you a little bit of this video i'm not gonna show you much of it all right i i don't want to pain you joey thief's gonna like skip through portions of it but again the optics joseph d philippus if you are ever feeling dumb like if you're just and and we all have those days where you're like my god i have just done some things that are retarded today and i just feel stupid if you are ever having a down day like that i want you to watch this video and i want you to remember that there is a reason why there's a person out there as in what the fuck is this chick's name katherine ebbs public information who decided to film this video recorded herself doing it said all the things she said watched the whole thing back then edited it down to the highlights whatever that's what you want to call them watched it again looked at it and said yeah this is a great video i'm gonna show you great idea to post it's really gonna resonate with people so this lady katherine ebbs was forced to go on a vacation i think she said like in the mountains or some shit which i'm very sorry for her plight i know that's not usually like the t-shirt she's wearing right there it says mon talk on it which is up in the hamptons region of the world you know obviously i'm very sorry that she had to go out to the mountains that's that's really difficult and no no upstanding woman should ever be forced to do that but what no upstanding woman especially should never be forced to do is go to a grocery store i agree right like the like the idea that you would have to go and pick up the food that you and your family are going to have to eat and carry those bags and put them in your car yeah it's offensive to me to to to quote katherine and she definitely never said this but i feel like she thought this that's what the mexicans do that's not what katherine does yeah well katherine that's actually what all people do i don't want to put words in your mouth or anything but roll some of this tape right here let's let's get the beginning then we'll skip to the middle and then i want to skip to the end so we're in this teeny tiny little town hopefully get all of our groceries for the next four days four days hopefully the little laughs kill me this is so small town vibes small town vibes look at the floor rubber i have a feeling this is not going to be good it's not going to be great they don't even have a car oh my god simulation oh look they're playing with the with the doors you do need a melon you can't have a watermelon like that not up to standard you think she's on a mushroom i think i think you're right all their fruit looks bad all their fruit looks bad i can't pause that real quick i'm not where do you get your fruit lady i mean oh you you know what where's that arrow horn like the oh yeah arrow one yeah arrow horn or arrow one you mean i actually got one right a pronunciation right that you got wrong that's a first yeah it's like chinese or something yeah arrow one that's where like uh the hailey the hailey bieber smoothie i'm pouring walk heart in my hailey bieber smoothie now where does arrow one come from i don't know where it comes from i don't know where it comes from get their fruit probably like i mean it's california probably mexico if i had to guess somewhere where they're not where the arowanese are not picking at themselves yeah exactly so i'm just gonna give another word of advice here if you don't even know where it fucking comes from lady which chances are you do not i don't think you get the comment on what's good and what's bad i hate this i'm just saying now skip to like the middle beef we'll give it we'll give it about 10 seconds in the middle just for the vibes a little more a little more i feel like i'm in a simulation right now oh she said that but she already said that she got goldfish i'm sure rfk loves that all right a little bit of meat i'm seeing ribeye she's seeing ribeye strip strip go with the strip go with the strip this is crazy how's it crazy you got bread any normal eggs what is it she's not even looking in the egg all right now cut to the end by the car i can't i can't do this part anymore those are right there yep okay she's made it into the car we started raining jesus what what is happening to us what is happening we just shopped i literally was like what is going on right now all i know is we gotta go we didn't get ice oh my god that's like when the titanic crashed look at that face i gotta go in there nope she's gotta go shop local can't have a grocery store like that okay that's good enough deep you know send the asteroid that's where i'm at just sent just send the asteroid that video just made me gay like if it takes me with them yeah a small price to pay yeah it's fine it's fine shop local shop local shopping local it's just and you know god forbid they had to drive the car there she's like we're putting it in cars i just like the i just like the like something a tiny bit abnormal which probably not even abnormal it's just immediately we're in a simulation yeah yeah now she would be she'd be fun as someone who's definitely in the high class of society she's not someone that carolyn levitt would consider lazy no she's out there working she's out there working doing her thing yeah i also do want to talk about the the evolution of the carolyn levitt and the evolution of the carolyn levitt and the evolution of it is don't know who this lady's husband is but chances are he has some money that's appears to be what it is that's what you picked that's when uh that's hey maybe that's maybe that's you know it's the best thing money could buy that's all right yeah i feel like i feel like that she's making her own money off she's making her own money talking she's making her own money off doing something but just saying god that's sucked so much it really sucked so much it did we got to take away people's phones we need more shame back in the world just a little bit i think we do need a little bit of shame just a tiny bit i think a little bit of social shame to adhere to some generally accepted norms and principles of a functioning society would not be a bad thing yeah like it doesn't even have to be like mean or violent it's just it's it's as simple as her or her friend as they're walking in just be like hey you don't gotta you don't gotta record let's just go get the groceries and then her being like oh you're right i'm so silly like it's that easy yeah maybe a little harsher than that but i'm with you yeah no maybe a good like backhand yeah but from from another female no that's from the husband when he comes up he's like he's like god god i told you i'm tired no but that's a joke it's just a little just a little bit of shame of like hey get a grip that's all just someone hitting her with a hey get a grip get a grip get a grip that's right you know make sure she's like eye contact so it really reaches upstairs like you could still make content we're not just like the whole like i'm gonna go grow like we don't gotta do that enough enough enough enough do a book club a book club would be good to a book club and it has to be stuff that's not just like you know like smart yeah yeah like you guys should get together and read uh crime and punishment yeah by dostoevsky you know yeah dostoevsky if i pronounce that right but yes you should totally read that read meditations by marcus willius you know things that'll really humble the soul i don't know something read virginia wolf yeah do that let's do that i mean john grisham never killed anybody yeah something something to stimulate the the mind because this whatever that that is that is like what i imagine if a golden retriever could use a cell phone yes except golden retrievers are yeah nice and amenable to be around yeah yeah yeah i'm trying i'm trying to think of an animal it's not but yes yeah you're right i i think that's fair to say so send the asteroid and i'll go with it yeah it's listen if that's the cost that's the cost that's biz but alessi aleman did release a documentary on our dear friend howard lutnick you finally i think that's out right we'll check it but if it's not it's coming out and in it you are going to see a little appearance of y'all's truly so when alessi came back into town for those who don't know alessi has worked with me for a very long time and he actually moved up to new jersey for me when i was still living in my parents house he came up here and got a place and just bet on me which is cool and fucking amazing so shout out to alessi and his wife who probably wants to remain nameless so i'll keep her out of it but shout out to both of them for moving up here and you know now he is down in florida and works with me every single day from down there but he came up in may for a week to stay here and we could all do some biz and have some good team bonding and we did and we did for sure but when he first got here it was a sunday morning when he arrived at around 11 a.m and yours truly was a little hungover but like all normal people when they land in new jersey and are stationed directly next to the biggest city in the world alessi requested to immediately take a trip to jeffrey epstein's mansion which you know obviously on the demented tour of new york that is stop number one so that's what we did and unbeknownst to me when we got there i've never done this before but he gave me some mics and said julian you're going to be interviewing some people on the street so yours truly did a little man on the street so let's let's do a lay of the land and before i say this i do want to say we were stationed across the street using our free speech using publicly available information to take a look at jeffrey epstein's house and it is publicly available information that has been online for a very long time we check this can you read what google told us about this actually as to who jeffrey epstein's neighbor was let's see if i can find it here let's see if i can find it here let's see if i can find it here let's let's just read what google had so we don't you know yeah it just said that um do do do do do do do that's what it said um yeah it started with do do do do do do do it was thinking um it pretty much said yes to this we could discuss the property a public official owns when it's documented in public records and already widely reported and of course and it and we also had a search that directly referenced the address of one howard letnick correct yep it literally literally lists it yep i'm just checking the boxes here i don't want any legal problems yep but it has been long since reported and howard letnick himself in an interview publicly at least one interview but in an interview publicly on the new york post podcast whatever the fuck that was called last summer where he famously lied about his whole affiliation with jeffrey epstein howard letnick did confirm that he was the neighbor of jeffrey epstein and described it as in the six to eight steps it gets it takes to get from his house to mine which actually correction having upon further review alessi and i were eyeballing it out and it's it's closer to 20 steps so he was a little farther step to step but wall to wall they were neighbors it's been widely reported so at jeffrey epstein's mansion on 71st street right next to it is howard letnick the current commerce secretary and epstein friend but commerce secretary of the united states america who has still not resigned and still not been fired is there so let's let's just play the beginning of this set the scene right once we we walked there and took a look let's just start a film this is epstein right here the herbert strauss house that is letnick looking at this building you know what happened there a little current commerce secretary of the united states lives at number 11 right there as well currently the commerce secretary of the united states who's in the cabinet lives at number 11 right there you don't know what happened there they don't they don't like people talking about it i can't say i know enough about the situation to comment yes i think so because i live in a co-op and i know certainly know everything my neighbor is doing where are we at right now all right so we are at nine east 71st street it's jeffrey epstein's house there it is had we missed this but we just had an elite ball kneller walk by michael's bags right there and some guy walked by right here with his wife and like as he was walking stop right here somebody saw me goes that's it and just kept going he's like that's obscene that's excellent but i always point out my very good friend as you well know he's almost like family to me at this point howard letnick he lives right there at number 11 obviously i'm a long-time president of the howard letnick fan club i view him as a morally brilliant decent kind loving individual which is to say fuck you howard letnick piece of shit but he lived right there and knew nothing about jeffrey epstein never saw him in the 14 years that they actually lived right next to each other from 2005 to 2019 you don't think neighbors would ever introduce each other you don't think neighbors would ever introduce each other you never had a neighbor you never spoken to that lives right next to you you know i don't like neighbors i avoid them like cruise ships but this is you can see the outline right here just to get an idea of how big the house is so this is epstein right here the herbert strauss house that is letnick and it's all right look at how much wider epstein's house is how much extra space it has back here that's just dark land mass that epstein doesn't have it goes all the way back to the other block or not the other block but halfway to the other block and then when you look at the height of the house yeah the height of epstein's house versus letnick all right do you want to go to some of the guys some of the guys we got to i know you were picking a couple spots you like deep but there were about people would walk by and i would just be standing there and unless he would would go up to each of them and i would just be standing there and i would go up to each one because he's done unless he's done a lot of man on the street stuff in the past so i don't know why he was telling me to fucking do it throwing me in the fire right here it's a little bit different but it was fun and so he would just go up to people and say oh do you want to be interviewed about you know being in front of epstein's house and some people knew that they were in front of it other people were like oh shit that's it but there was also one guy in there like very much knew where he was but which one you want to start with the scott okay let's do that so this was a scottish guy in town here we go all right so we're here with an elite ball knower johnny i watched as he was coming up to the house do exactly what we were looking at with epstein so johnny have you ever been here before no i've been to new york a few times but the last time i was here was way before this kind of scandal arose so i didn't have a lot of things i like to see in new york but this was one of them you scottish yes how did you know i can use the accent strong and good my man so as far as the case goes this is obviously the case that you're talking about this is the case that you're talking about this is obviously something you do follow and track what do you think about the fact that no one in america has been put on trial or bought brought to justice for this um i think it's a disgrace to be honest i mean we see it a lot in the uk because of the prince andrew thing and stuff that connection so it's quite quite publicized in the uk so i don't know what it's like over here not so much but yeah i mean it seems to have went quiet almost like they wanted it to right oh you'd say so yeah yeah so prince andrew was arrested a couple months ago i haven't heard anything about that since do we know if that's this was in the court or i i haven't tracked it actually i gotta look into that some more well i don't know i think it went quiet as well so it seems like it was just settled out of court so i don't know now are you familiar with our great secretary of commerce howard lutnik no i'm sorry i have no idea about u.s politics i have good for you you're not missing anything but Kletnik is currently in the presidential cabinet, which is like kind of a big deal around here. And back in 1999, he bought number 11, which is that house right there, from a trust owned by one Jeffrey Epstein and Les Wexner. And then moved into that house in 2005 and claims, he's now had to admit some lies to it, but claims that he knew nothing about what Jeffrey Epstein did in here. And despite the fact that he lives, I don't know, Johnny, about 20 steps away, door to door, says that never saw anything suspicious, didn't spend any time with Jeffrey Epstein. Do you think that that might not be a reasonable claim given the proximity of their living quarters? I think I find that hard to believe. It's a pretty quiet street. You'd think you would know your neighbor. Right. Yeah. Especially a kind of high profile billionaire. Yeah. They're both billionaires. Well, yeah. So. I don't know. I find that quite strange. Quite strange. Is everything you thought it'd be standing outside this kind of demonic realm? I thought there would be more. I mean, I kind of thought it'd still be a bit of a crime scene, to be honest. I thought it'd be taped up or something, but yeah. No. Well, what happened is some guy bought it, some Goldman Sachs jerk off, and he said. that they were doing a physical and spiritual remodeling of the inside they were like gonna wash away all the demons and rebuild every room and it would appear with the scaffolding to go on now and you can see through the windows a little bit that it might be done so perhaps it's a nicer place yeah well i hope they gave out deep clean that's all i can say on that note johnny welcome to america one one more this guy so we're we're we had done a bunch of them there were a couple people who like really there were most people were like i'd rather not do that we're like all right no problem thank you so much and they went away and then there was really one guy who like really and i'll obviously keep his identity out of this i don't remember his name actually but one guy like really started yelling at us like oh oh so you believe epstein was a part of this whole thing and like and like was involved with these elites and they were all like raping kids and i was like well i'm not saying every single one was but i'm i'm saying that yes there was certainly some sort of pedophile ring going on here he's like oh you fucking started calling us scumbags and everything and he was with two of his friends and they were like looking at us like oh sorry he gets real emotional about this one of them actually stayed back with us against his wishes and just talk with me on the side off camera really nice guy but he's like yeah my buddy gets a little it's a little wired up about this but that was like it just made me think because like i don't do any of this man on the street stuff but when he because he was he was addressing all that stuff to alessi because alessi was the one asking him and i was sitting there and right as this began i will admit my head like i i was like tense like this like oh shit is this guy gonna throw punches or something so when you see these people doing i know we've seen some videos where sometimes altercations happen for sure but like especially if you're covering a topic that someone's gonna find some sort of disagreement with you know i don't know i don't know i don't know and it's not just like at some fucking political rally where everyone's kind of crazy you never know like that made me really think about that you never know like some of the other people that you don't see on camera that these people run into so shout out to the people out there doing man on the street because i don't know that was like yeah i i thought i thought we were gonna go yeah i really really did like he kept going and alessi's like the sweetest guy ever he's like oh my god no no i'm i'm not i'm not saying you have to agree with everything or something like that we just wanted to see if you want to talk on camera you totally don't have to and the guy was just he's like getting you know he's one of those fake fucking scumbag tough guys like getting in his face like this i don't know i think he i think he was worried about the implications for the implications yeah i'll just leave it at that but either way this guy shows up to the house with his girlfriend and is taking pictures right up in front of it like this walking out into the street getting angles and going like oh shit and so alessi's like we gotta get this guy and he was for awesome dude he was from canada and his girlfriend's like she had a canadian french accent and she was like you have to you have to do the interview or something like that and he's like okay and he pretended like to play dumb like i don't know where are we standing but it turned out he had just come to new york for the first time ever had landed i think at jfk and had ubered directly to jeffrey epstein's house it was first on his list just like alessi alamon so here here was that part right here what's your name patrick i'm julian nice to meet you man so we see you outside of here looking at this building you know what happened there i don't really know what happened there you don't really know what happened there they don't they don't like people talking about it what happened there so there was a man named jeffrey epstein who lived there unperturbed for many many years abusing a lot of people that's very unfortunate i hope those people are okay today and um where is he now actually what i say he's dead who said he's dead the government well do you trust the government no well nice i don't really know what to say but um well is he really dead i have my doubts what do you think you know what's your theory about it i recently did an investigation with discovery channel where they rebuilt his cell okay and i will say that was i always thought he was murdered but i did think he was dead and after we did that it's kind of a long story but i have doubts about whether or not he's dead because there were parts even just in the cell that were not on the prison schematic where someone could have been exfiltrated out of prison without people knowing yeah that would make a lot of sense but um didn't the wall files got relayed recently so some of them what happened to the the person who are in the files not a goddamn thing nice i mean a lot of freedom isn't it a lot of freedom where are you from patrick um uh we actually drove from montreal we just arrived right now that's right but uh yeah we came from montreal quebec first time in new york yes first time in new york oh coming right to the important spot i feel you there yeah i mean i'm checking in in like three hours so we should be here sometime well make sure they're not tracking you on the phone you know it gets a little it beeps real red around here i mean i heard volunteer moved to here right hitting them all elite ball knower i just want to put that out there patrick is an elite ball knower so did they move here recently i i actually don't know nothing about that i gotta look into it but yeah i mean i i you said you did an interview with discovery right yeah it was a documentary thing yeah yeah i hope you'll also look into it if you if you can we'll be we look into palantir on our channel on youtube for sure so we'll keep doing that but when you say move here do you mean like they move headquarters to new york i know they move the headquarters i mean they made a tweet about it that they were moving to the u.s i don't i don't know if it's here in new york but i know they're in the u.s right yeah i mean they're everywhere they're listening to us right now and the drone's up there the birds aren't real in the united states i don't know if you know they leave new york they're still i mean we're talking about the cameras and pigeon eyes oh yeah dude those pigeons and stuff that's they're robots yeah yeah well i mean that kid real fucked up yeah well sometimes i try not to look at it darkly but it's hard not to i agree well i guess we're all screwed all right let's go right there so there were a few more in there unless he's gonna have some of the highlights in his video but you know we talked to i don't know which ones made the video but we talked to people from all walks of life obviously different countries as well and of the people we talked to some who knew more about the case some who knew just basics about the case the themes were really the same obviously like patrick there looks into things very deeply so he's asking a lot of questions that maybe some others weren't asking but like people are just looking at this with common sense going why is there why is this just getting shoved under the rug why is this still here why why was this ever a thing why are these questions not getting answered why are people in power just openly still in power who were a part of this i don't know give it a thought get back to me right yeah on that note i think we're good please hit that subscribe button thank you as always for everyone for watching and we're gonna have probably three episodes guest 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