Charlie Angus on Canada Fighting Back Against Trump
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The transcription captures a fiery Canadian response to Donald Trump's trade war, centered on Ontario Premier Doug Ford and NDP leader Charlie Angus. Ford, a conservative, dismisses Trump as a "loser" and "bully," vowing to use every tool—including electricity surcharges—to inflict economic pain on the U.S. Trump retaliates with a mocking statement, falsely claiming Canada relies on the U.S. for survival, which the speaker debunks by noting U.S. dependence on Canadian crude, electricity, and minerals. The narrative emphasizes unprecedented Canadian unity, with Prime Minister Carney, provincial premiers (e.g., Manitoba's Wab Kinew), and opposition leaders forming "Team Canada" after rejecting Trump's "surrender documents" that demanded sovereignty concessions, including over trade and language rights. The speaker frames Trump's tactics as "bad faith" and a threat to Canadian independence, sparking patriotic resolve. Angus details plans to target U.S. red states—via potash and electricity taxes—and predicts Trump's policies will harm Americans, citing rising costs and job losses. The tone escalates to personal condemnation, labeling Trump "scum" and a "criminal," while celebrating Canadian values of cooperation and diversity. The summary underscores a unified, defiant Canada prepared for a prolonged fight, viewing the conflict as existential and part of a broader international struggle against fascism.
Canada is striking back hard and Donald Trump can't handle it.
The Premier of Ontario telling Donald Trump,
kiss my ass.
And Premier Doug Ford said, I'm a big guy,
so there's a lot of ass to kiss, is what he said.
He also said that we are going to unite at the premier level
and we are going to inflict massive amounts of pain against the United States.
Let me show you first where Doug Ford,
the right-wing conservative Premier of Ontario,
talks about that Donald Trump needs to kiss his big ass.
Here, play this clip.
You sound a little more subdued than you did this morning on the radio
when you said Donald Trump could kiss your ass.
Did the Prime Minister tell you to ask you to tone it down a bit?
No, he didn't.
I'm not going to comment, but he wasn't against that.
And I have a lot of real estate on my ass,
so he has a lot of room to kiss my ass.
So.
Well done.
I just do.
I'm a big dude.
What can I say?
And Donald Trump then posted lots of bluster from Doug Ford,
who is the Premier of the Canadian province of Ontario,
but who is better known as the less charismatic,
intelligent, and overall unimpressive brother of the late, great Rob Ford.
America has been carrying Canada for decades,
but no longer.
The U.S. will always be far bigger, richer, and stronger than Canada.
Without the United States,
Canada couldn't survive.
It's where they get all their money.
And because of their current bad leadership,
primarily Governor Carney is how he refers to the well-respected,
world-renowned leader of the free world, Prime Minister Carney,
and his flunky Ford,
they will not be allowed to keep taking advantage of the United States.
Their key to survival.
And for our Canadian viewers,
the fact that they would say the right-wing Premier of Ontario of the Conservative Party,
Doug Ford,
is somehow, like, tied to the hip to Prime Minister Carney,
but just goes to show you that Donald Trump doesn't know what the hell he's talking about,
number one.
But number two,
that Canada is united and ready to pummel Donald Trump and his despicable regime.
Donald Trump goes on to say,
remember, much of the electricity, oil, and gas that Canada gets
is transported through the USA.
Someone should get these clowns to fall in line
or the consequences
for Canada will be far worse.
Canada's unemployment rate is now 10% and rapidly rising.
Their businesses are fleeing for the United States.
And it's all because of their failed policies and inept leadership.
The days of ripping off our farmers and other businesses are over.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, Donald J. Trump.
Now, the United States gets the majority of its crude
and a huge amount of its electricity
and other critical,
things like critical minerals,
from Canada.
Everything Donald Trump said in this statement
is completely false.
You know, it's like when Donald Trump also says,
I'm having negotiations with the Ayatollah.
Oh, we have demolished them.
They are begging for a deal.
He's doing the same loser behavior.
He's just a freaking loser.
And Premier Ford of Ontario says,
look, I can go back and forth with this guy,
but you know what?
He's a loser.
The guy's an idiot.
He's a loser.
He's a bankruptor.
He bankrupts things.
I don't even want to deal with such losers.
Play this clip.
You know, I'm not going to.
I'm just not going to take the bait.
This guy's a loser.
He's going to be a loser.
And simple as that.
We're going to fight with everything we have.
And you know something?
I have more courage, more brains in my baby toe
than he has in his whole body.
So there you go.
More from Ford right here saying,
I'm not going to take any advice from the king of bankruptcies.
Play this clip.
No, I don't respond to a dictator like President Trump.
A bully like President Trump.
As I said before,
he's the type of guy in school
that would take your lunch money one day,
take your toque off your head the next day,
and then steal your running shoes.
But I'm not going to take any advice off a guy
that's the king of bankruptcies.
And he's actually tariffing his own people,
taxing his own people.
And I'm going to make sure I communicate
through the U.S. media.
I'm going to be reaching out
to every single governor,
every single senator,
and every single congressperson.
And when it comes to the midterms,
I have a message to the Americans.
Don't vote in a person that's going to kill your jobs.
He ran on creating more jobs.
Last time I checked,
jobs went down in the U.S.
and Ontario created more jobs.
He ran on reducing the cost of living.
Last time I checked,
foods are more expensive down there.
Homes are more expensive.
And the reason homes are more expensive
because he has a tariff
on our lumber,
which 33% of all homes that are built in the U.S.
use Canadian lumber.
So I'm not going to take lessons off President Trump.
He's the last guy that I would take any lessons off.
And it's about Team Canada.
Well, we'll see how this goes.
But if he wants to put pain on Canadians,
we'll leverage every bit of pain we possibly can on Americans.
And you know what I feel bad for?
I've always said I love the American people.
I still stand by that statement because there's a lot of,
because there's a lot of people in the U.S.
that are calling me saying,
way to go, keep going.
You know, your own people, President Trump,
don't even like you.
And they're going to speak loud and clear
when it comes to the midterms.
And if I was allowed to,
I'd be down there door knocking.
And then he starts to roll out the plan
that Canada can do as a united Canada,
that the premiers can do together with Prime Minister Carney.
He's like, we could put massive pain on the United States.
Play this clip.
But we could put massive, massive pain on the U.S.
The underestimate, President Trump underestimates us.
And that's the biggest mistake, underestimating your opponent.
He further lays out his plan right here.
I think we start off with a surcharge.
If it escalates, we have to use every tool in our toolbox.
We aren't the only one that sends electricity down to the U.S.
New Brunswick does, Quebec does, B.C. does, Manitoba does,
just to name a few.
So we need to get together.
All together.
And decide if we're going to put surcharges on the electricity.
How can we let them take really inexpensive electricity
to make goods to compete and take jobs from Canadians?
You know, you can't square that circle.
So we'll use every tool in our toolbox.
Then we'll see if President Trump says, do I need Canada?
Watch how he does cartwheels and he shouts and screams
when we put the surcharge on.
Matter of fact, I can't wait.
I cannot wait.
Let's be clear.
I don't like the guy.
Simple.
And then again, conservative right wing premier,
who I probably disagree with on a lot of stuff.
But when it comes to how he's fighting Donald Trump,
and when it comes to Canada standing strong together
and being united right here,
you've got Ford on the right wing in the premier level.
You've got EB, you've got Canoe, NDP right on the left.
You've got Prime Minister Carney, centre-left liberal.
I mean, you've got a united Canada.
Play to that clip, right?
The Prime Minister has my full support in this decision
to walk away from a bad deal
that would have hurt Canadian workers
and undermined Canadian sovereignty.
And he has my full support to hit back
tariff for tariff, dollar for dollar.
But let's be clear.
This will not be easy.
Stand up for Canada to stand up against President Trump.
We have to withstand the economic pain
that will come with this fight.
I want to bring in Charlie Angus,
the head of Midas Canada,
to get his reaction to everything that's going on.
Charlie, of course, this weekend,
you have Donald Trump's trade war against Canada
escalating last minute demands by the Trump regime
while engaged in horrifically bad faith negotiations
with Canada.
Carney just said to the negotiators,
let's get back to Ottawa.
We can't deal with these people.
You know, and we've learned what those series
of additional demands are,
including Canada can't do trade deals with other countries
unless they get the approval of the United States.
And then over the past 24, 48 hours,
we've seen Trump regime officials,
J.D. Vance, Besant, like whining,
like they're being mean to us
and they like Canada better than us
and they're being so rude.
And if we just hurt them more,
they're going to come back to the negotiating table
and they're going to be,
and that's what's going to make them
want to do a deal with us.
Charlie, talk to us about what's going on.
Well, Ben, the straight of your booze is now closed
and it's going to be closed for a long time.
And this is going to really hurt
because what we saw this past weekend,
this had nothing to do with trade negotiations.
Donald Trump's team put surrender documents on the table
and thought we would sign it.
I don't know who was advising them
that they thought they'd get away with this.
But the idea that,
in order to be able to access a market,
which we had access to based on a trade agreement
that was signed with Donald Trump,
that we would have a limited, tiny access to a market,
that we would give up our sovereignty
over negotiations of treaties,
that we would give up the Canadian constitutional rights
on provincial jurisdiction,
on language rights, on diversity,
all these things that are fundamental.
They seem to think we're a defeated people.
Well, we've never been defeated.
In any battle that I've ever heard of.
So in Canada right now,
there is a sense of unity
that is beyond anything we've ever seen.
And people I know around the world have been watching this with the boycott and that.
I mean, I'm even watching right wing pundits saying there's nothing to be had with these guys.
But what I think on the bigger picture, Ben, is that what Donald Trump has sent to the world is a clear message that America's word means nothing, that they can't be trusted on anything, that if you pick a fight with your number one trading partner and treat them as though they were a defeated captive nation and think that you can get away with that.
The only thing I'm wondering is at what point is the rest of the political, media, economic class going to speak up because Donald Trump has now picked the fight that I believe is going to do him in.
Talk to us about the unity you're seeing amongst the premiers, amongst the people around Prime Minister Carney.
I know we had heard from the premier of Manitoba, Wab Kanu, even earlier last week.
He was worried when there was going to be a deal.
That seemed to be, you know, not the greatest deal for a lot of Canadian companies, but was a compromise.
And he said, look, I get it.
We're Team Canada.
We're united and we'll we'll we'll do it and we'll stand united.
But, you know, Cano's like, I see a very weak, pathetic loser in Trump.
We see Iran beating the crap out of him.
And, you know, he's a flawed person.
Cano's putting it nicely.
You can't do a deal with a bad person, Cano said.
But he goes, look, I'll be united Team Canada.
But then the Trump regime.
Did what bad people do.
And perhaps Carney, who's been in the highest level of negotiations, knew that that would happen no matter what.
And so rather than it being, you know, him who, you know, just just let Donald Trump be Donald Trump and Trump and let Nick and all of them did what we expected that they would do.
They engaged in heinous conduct at the very end and it provided Carney with the out.
I think Carney knew was my own views.
I think Carney knew that was going to happen eventually.
And then Carney said, all right.
Let's go.
And then he was able to deliver that speech to Canada that addressed all the different constituencies where even somebody like Danielle Smith of Alberta, you know, who still is somewhat both sides in this.
And we obviously know she's Maple Maga, but it almost puts the Pierre Poliev Maple Maga kind of cornered because it's like we we did everything we what more would you have done other than sell out Canada and take away our sovereignty?
Well, I think.
Well, I think what was really fascinating over the last week was that Canadians, everybody was on edge because we didn't I don't think Canadians wanted a deal.
Canadians felt if we gave a deal, if we gave up too much, they would be back the next day demanding more.
But there was a sense, well, our prime minister is going to go into this and we are all going to hold the line.
And Wab Kanu, he's really he is Captain Canada.
You know, he reminds me the great Phil Esposito.
And then we do everything.
All metaphors in Canada are hockey.
But Phil Esposito in 1972 against the Russians when Phil Esposito rallied the team.
When you put Wab Kanu on the ice, he rallies the nation.
So he came out first and he said, this is not a good situation, but I'm sticking with the captain here.
We are sticking together.
And so Canadians were watching those negotiations when the prime minister called our people home at midnight on Friday.
My phone started to go off.
It just started to just go crazy.
And what I was hearing from people is, thank God.
Thank God we knew we were in a war.
We knew they were coming for us.
We knew that if we signed in good faith, because the prime minister said he'd go that extra mile.
But then the prime minister said, you can't trust somebody who signs agreements in pencil.
So, you know, this isn't a trade dispute between the prime minister and Donald Trump.
This is not MAGA in Canada.
Right now, this is the word of the United States.
This is not worth anything.
So from the moment that we came home, you've been seeing this sense of, yeah, we're in this.
We're in this for the fight.
And so Donald Trump's now threatening extraordinary new tariffs and he's going to do this.
And, you know, they're all shouting at us about what they're going to do to us and how much it's going to hurt us.
But what we're watching is we're watching the economic crisis unfolding in the United States, the massive debt levels, the fact that.
On aluminum alone, the Canadian aluminum industry is working at peak production and every American manufacturer is paying an extra fifteen hundred dollars to two thousand dollars a ton because of what?
To punish us.
So we're not we're not shouting what we're going to do.
Prime Minister Carney said it's going to come down Labor Day.
My feeling is with these latest threats, now he's going to destroy our auto sector.
Donald Trump hasn't realized what he's done.
It's going to make the prime minister.
Target serious, serious retribution.
They're going to target red states.
We're coming into the midterms.
You put a tax on or an export tax on potash and you are going to destroy the American farm economy in no time.
And all those red state governors are going to be freaking out.
So I see potash.
I see electricity.
You know, Premier Eby's talked about the key critical minerals that are essential to Silicon Valley.
Donald Trump has forced this fight.
You're seeing from our prime minister.
He's just carrying on.
Canadians are hunkering down.
We are ready for this.
We are unified in a way we've never been before.
And I will also say, Ben, the decision at the last second to pick a fight over French language rights in our country, that's the political third rail in Canada.
We've survived for two hundred and fifty some years by this delicate constitutional dance on language.
And Donald Trump decided to stick his finger in that socket.
Well, every Canadian that I know is doing a little bit of French today.
Maitre Cheneau.
Maitre Cheneau.
We are masters of our own house.
It's a great French slogan and every Canadian is using it.
So he's unified us in a way that nobody else could have.
So for that, Donald, we're going to drink some Canadian whiskey tonight.
Then you've got the idiot Treasury secretary in the United States, Besant, who couldn't run his own five billion dollar fund when he was in the private sector and ran it into the ground.
And he wants to make today the day of economic D-Day.
And so he shows up and gives this press conference and he says the world.
You're going to have to choose the United States or Iran.
And as I was watching that, too, I was reflecting.
I'm like, do you also realize what a sign of weakness that even is that you now had to tell the world you need to make the choice?
Is it going to be the US or is it going to be Iran?
And you already have, you know, China's foreign ministry spokesperson put out a statement saying Iran, Iran, Iran, you want us to say a lot of, you know, I mean,
they said it more diplomatically.
They said we don't support any of this economic coercion, you know, internationally.
And then Iran's parliament leader, M.B.
Goluboff, put out a statement saying we've already heard from a lot of our own allies and no one takes the United States seriously.
But, you know, you need alliances if you're going to go and do things, you know, whether it's actual kinetic or although I don't like the term kinetic, it feels like it reduces the war crimes that are being used, you know, and the horrible whether it's an actual
war or whether it is a trade war or whatever you're doing geopolitically, you need friends, you need allies, you need to move together and Trump's isolated himself.
And so it's just like the weakest, you know, it's like, what are you even doing, you know, and it's like, we're super serious when it comes to China this time.
We're going to be saying, really, you're going to pick that fight too?
Okay, you're just going to fight, you're going to fight everybody.
It's just, it's, you know, look, Trump was ranting and raving like a lunatic, Charlie, in the 70s.
And he was viewed as a loser lunatic.
All these MAGA people who are running the government are all loser lunatics whose MAGA arc were being outcasts because they were horrible humans and they couldn't, they didn't do things good.
So it's ironic that they call this Operation Outcast regarding Iran right now, when they're all outcasts and they've like, then these losers have taken over the US guy, just a bunch of losers, Charlie sucks.
Well, I mean, but the problem is, again, you know, when,
is the American political, economic, media machine going to stand up?
I mean, I heard someone on the news today talking, well, Prime Minister Carney blew off some steam on the weekend and now Donald Trump's blowing off steam.
That's BS.
This was a unilateral attack on a neighbor that has been a loyal ally forever.
And now this loyal neighbor and friend is going to fight back and is going to hurt you in a big way because we are in the fight for our lives.
That's what's at stake here.
The fact that they're using the term D-Day against Iran, I think, is also really offensive to Canadians because we were at D-Day and, you know, and at D-Day, we were there with our allies and we were fighting fascists.
And, you know, Dwight D. Eisenhower, we respected him as the global leader at the time, not because he was an American, but because he was a good general who understood how to work with people and how to work across.
And I think that's a really, really diverse line.
So for us, D-Day has a really sacred meaning.
So we see this as our D-Day.
Donald, you're picking a fight with the Canadians who landed at Juneau Beach and got further on that first day than any of the allies while you were still trapped on the beach.
Our American friends, we were pushing into the Nazi line.
So we see this as an existential threat because it is an existential threat.
But right now, this fight is unifying us.
Where's Donald Trump?
is creating chaos, we are going to
take hits we know that but i think what the american people need to consider is what happens
when we come back uh and decide that hey what's the electricity rate you're paying at trump tower
well maybe we'll add 25 or 30 percent on that what's that going to do to the cost of living
what's it going to do to the cost of living when potash gets hit critical minerals start shutting
down silicon valley because you threaten our auto sector we got to come back we got to drop the
gloves we've got to go for this and so at the end of the day you're doing this donald to the
neighbor that was the most trustworthy that you could have had we would have had your back on
anything and it really sends a message like who is this guy and who are his friends other than
gangsters other than criminals other than sexual predators like epstein uh other than um you know
despots like putin and the head of north korea netanyahu you would
choose them any day over canada we'll go for it donald we'll see how this ends at the end of the
day before we go your message right now to the trump regime we know they watch this very very
carefully donald in canada we know who you are you're scum donald you are the scum of the earth
if you treat people like that and i think of canada and the incredible lands that we have here
that we have to protect and i think of our communities that stick together
our multicultural diverse identities and our language issues we are a nation built not on
bluster we are a nation that had to be forged through hard compromises of being able to work
together because you know there's no such thing as a marlboro man in canada you don't survive as
marlboro man here it's minus 45 you've got to go to your neighbor you got to knock on their door
and you got to trust that your neighbor will help you whether they agree with you or whether they
don't that's what makes canada who we are we are a nation that's built not on bluster we are a nation
we are we've had to stick together we've had to work together and we love we love we love
the diversity of this land and man we will do anything to protect it and the other thing donald
you've never shown up for a fight you've always had people go and die for you well canadians show
up and we don't stop till the job's done so you think this is gonna be a fight you're gonna win
you've already lost donald you lost because you have no moral character you have no
moral fiber and when you are down donald and when you are finally in jail as the predator criminal
that you are canadians will be toasting us each other and celebrating with democratic allies around
the world because your days are numbered charlie angus leader of midas canada catch charlie angus
traveling around canada giving speeches as part of the resistance tour charlie great to see you as
always i can't wait to canadians get a copy though of wtf america because there's a whole chapter on
midas canada and everybody out there well ben i just want to thank you and you know we're coming
up to our one year anniversary of midas canada and people say why'd you go with midas touch
well once we started talking about fascism i don't think we were on a national news show
ever again in canada and you guys reached out from the get-go uh and we've been working ever
since because you're not afraid to say what has to be said we were calling out fascism
from day one and here it is the gangster fascist and at the end of the day we're all going to be
celebrating when they go down so thanks so much and we can't wait for that book to get out everybody
subscribe to the midas canada youtube channel and charlie that's the point i make in the wtf america
book is that what this is about is it's about international solidarity against fascism the
forces of fascism are aligned internationally trump is a vessel of that in the united states but
we see what was emerging in canada we saw what was emerging in australia we see it internationally
and so if we want to be equipped to fight it we've got to form these alliances frankly
the way canada is reaching out and forming alliances internationally and is becoming the
leader of a new new shaping order in the world thanks charlie everybody subscribe to midas canada
thanks so much before you go our book wtf america is available for pre-order now it's the story of
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Ontario Premier Doug Ford, a conservative, harshly criticizes Donald Trump, calling him a "loser" and a "bully," and vows to inflict "massive pain" on the U.S. through measures like electricity surcharges.
Trump retaliates with a statement mocking Ford as the "less charismatic" brother of Rob Ford, claiming the U.S. has "carried Canada for decades" and that Canada would not survive without it—assertions the speaker labels false.
Canadian leaders, including Prime Minister Carney (whom Trump misnames "Governor Carney") and NDP's Charlie Angus, unite across party lines as "Team Canada," rejecting Trump's demands as "surrender documents" that threaten sovereignty, including over trade and language rights.
The speaker highlights Trump's "bad faith" negotiations, citing last-minute demands (e.g., U.S. approval of Canadian trade deals) and threats to Canadian industries like auto, lumber, and electricity.
Angus warns of economic retaliation targeting U.S. red states, such as export taxes on potash and electricity, and predicts Trump's policies will backfire, citing rising U.S. costs and job losses.
The rhetoric escalates to personal attacks, with Angus calling Trump "scum" and predicting his downfall, while praising Canadian unity, resilience, and international alliances against "fascism."
Summary:
The transcription captures a fiery Canadian response to Donald Trump's trade war, centered on Ontario Premier Doug Ford and NDP leader Charlie Angus. S. S.
S. dependence on Canadian crude, electricity, and minerals. , Manitoba's Wab Kinew), and opposition leaders forming "Team Canada" after rejecting Trump's "surrender documents" that demanded sovereignty concessions, including over trade and language rights.
The speaker frames Trump's tactics as "bad faith" and a threat to Canadian independence, sparking patriotic resolve. S. red states—via potash and electricity taxes—and predicts Trump's policies will harm Americans, citing rising costs and job losses.
The tone escalates to personal condemnation, labeling Trump "scum" and a "criminal," while celebrating Canadian values of cooperation and diversity. The summary underscores a unified, defiant Canada prepared for a prolonged fight, viewing the conflict as existential and part of a broader international struggle against fascism.
FAQs
Doug Ford said Donald Trump could 'kiss my ass,' adding that as a big guy, there is a lot of ass to kiss. He also called Trump a loser and a bully.
Trump dismissed Ford as the 'less charismatic, intelligent, and overall unimpressive brother of the late, great Rob Ford,' and claimed Canada couldn't survive without the U.S.
Ford proposed putting surcharges on electricity exports and using every tool in the toolbox to inflict pain on the U.S., including targeting critical minerals and potash.
Carney walked away because the Trump regime added last-minute demands, including giving up Canadian sovereignty over trade treaties and constitutional rights, which were seen as surrender documents.
The phrase, meaning 'masters of our own house,' is a French slogan that Canadians adopted to show unity against Trump's demands, especially after he picked a fight over French language rights.
Charlie Angus said Trump's actions unified Canada like never before, with all political leaders and citizens standing together, and that Trump's threats would hurt the U.S. economy through retaliation.
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