CERN, Portals & Extra Dimensions: Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger Speaks Out | UAP Files Podcast S3E35

[Music] She invited me to see everybody and put me at the table of two physicists from the CERN, one in Geneva, one in Portugal. The two questions that really intrigued me was, you know, "What are you doing special there?" And how many dimensions? This has intrigued me. I have still not to this day found a real definition of reality. Anyway, I said, "So how many dimensions officially are living in the CERN?" And they both said, "17, very affirmatively." I couldn't believe it. I said, "How come they don't know?" Okay, so I digged in a little bit more and I said, "You have an experiment? Can you describe something from another dimension?" And they were searching in their brain and I said, "Can you something the most extraordinary that you have heard about?" Because I wanted to have a result. And they said, "Approved it, they brain it, they gave something, there's some document." And they said, "This entity, the second time, took a scarf." [Music] The following is a conversation with Dr. Astrid Stackelberg. Astrid is a scientist, a researcher, and public health expert who has worked with Swiss Federal agencies, the World Health Organization and the United Nations. Over the years, she's become a bold voice on some of the world's more debated scientific topics, particularly what's happening behind the scenes at CERN, extra dimensions, health and the UFO connection. Some of these topics might come across as more speculative and let's face it, people at CERN with the Large Hadron Collider have been doing some strange science for almost two decades. We only hear little sound bites every so often from CERN about portals and extra dimensions and black holes, lots of weird vague maybes and what we might find. Despite the estimated 13 billion spent on it so far, whilst there hasn't been any confirmation, and Astrid's comments are shared with the understanding that this is third-hand information, the information is incredible and it's a real mind-bender and worth starting a conversation about. You may have seen a speak about portals or interdimensional experiments and metallic beans in viral videos, so today we're going to unpack it all. There is a lot in this episode, so I'm going to add some timestamps below to help you jump to the subjects you find most interesting. So, without further ado, the following is a conversation with Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger. Dr. Astrid, thank you so much for joining me. I really do appreciate your time and talking to me. If it's okay, I'd just like to get a bit of an idea, I should say, about your background and how you got into the subjects, because obviously you're very much, you're a scientist, you're very much into health and policy and things like that. Where did the interest and the unknown come from and they're searching for what could be out there? Where did that start? Have you been able to trace it back at all? Since I'm very early, I would say I'm always curious and I was reading a lot very early on. But I want to go beyond the limit of what we see. I am fascinated by the power of the invisible. What we see is not just what we see, it has many dimensions. Instead, I did a lot of sports on the side, so that was something I liked. But on the side, I was reading books like Relativity of Time. I was 14, 13, and I was reading. How can space shrink? How can you get younger when you go into Relativity Theory? I was like, this I have to find out. I was trying to understand you at my level. I also was reading Jung at the discovery of your soul. And then at 18, I went to take a course in England on Karelian, the Karelian photography. Because you know that, you put. It's a picture that emanates the energy you have around your fingers, your feet, your aura, that you cannot see. And Karelian was a Russian and he managed to put it on a photograph. So I went to London and I just wanted to go. And it was very interesting because the person who was doing it was not educated at the university, but he had learned that and he was healing people with that. You see here, you can see that and that. So we each did this, it was a three day course. Another thing I was always very intrigued when I met people who were not the same and did not think the same. And I'm half Norwegian. So I spent a summer at the University of Oslo, a summer school to get my, fix my Norwegian. And I met this Norwegian from Bergen, Jan Omhans. He was called Omheng, Omheng. Even his name was weird for Norwegian. And he started telling me that he was an extra-terrestrial. And I said, "I met him in a discotheque and he guessed my date of birth just by seeing me." And I had no passport, I had no idea, I never met him before. And I was in a discotheque with two Americans doing the summer school and two or three other people and girls. And when he guessed my date of birth, I said, "I have to find out why." So I spent the whole evening, I didn't care about discotheque to know what. And then we met again, so it was astrology. So he explained me, he just does that, to the quarter, the spring, summer, winter, autumn, winter. And then I did not convince me how can you find out, you know, 16 in a month of April, I'm Iris. And so from then on, I studied astrology. I thought, "I have to find out." I went very deep, I went to this Paris School of Astrology. And I tested my life on that too. So that's one way, and my grandfather already had touched the ads, so I had his books. But that was one, but the guy was really very interesting because the next day I said, "We met a day after something, and he wanted to tell me more." So I said, "Okay." And he said, "So I'm not a human." And I said, "Okay." So how can you describe yourself and how did you arrive here? And he said, "Through a crash accident, a crash car." And my parents died and I was a survivor, and there I am. I was like, "So can you prove to me?" And I never said no, because I thought, "You know, I know what the heck is, and why not?" "Maybe I will see him fly." I was doing transcendental meditation also, and I wanted to fly, and I never managed to. So I was experimenting in the world in a very creative way, and he was doing hologram at the time, and that was the long time ago, 40 years ago, and at least, yeah, 40. And so I was like, "Shit, how can you do that?" A hologram, and then he sent me, he said, "You know that there are stones that make electricity." And I said, "Really?" And so we kept correspondence when I was back in Switzerland, and he sent me, and he said, "Well, listen, if you're in London for the Kirlian, go to this newspaper and go and find that article at that date exactly, because this has an article classified by CIA of a rock that produces energy and can light up lights." And I said, "Okay, I did it." And I went there, and I was feeling like, "I'm doing something that's forbidden." I know I was really, I thought, "This is something that has been classified." But I went, I got a copy of the article, and yeah, there was a mountain, and this still exists in France, in Ireland, I think in England, where magnetism is opposite, so you can put a ball at the end of the, down from the hill and it goes up. This exists, it does exist. But there, this rock classified, and this was the beginning of like, "Wow, there's so many things they don't want to make money on, and they don't give us the truth, and the Kirlian the same." Okay, so that explains to you already, a very young between 15 and 30. So is that what kind of got you into the site? Were you into science at that point? Was that kind of an introduction to it? And you mentioned it, that interest book. I was, I wanted to discover, and I needed a method to discover it. So I realized now that I was, I needed a method. But when I had to choose university later on, my dad said, "No, you have to go to university, you can travel, but you have to come back, and you have to study." So he was a military, a businessman and military. So he was very straight that I had to do that. Just kept me straight on something, that my creativity had to be mastered. And so I did okay, I would like to do, know what is a human, a soul, the universe, blah blah. So what is the closest? And I said, "Okay, it's anthropology of human." That was in Paris, he did not want me to go to Paris. It's okay. Then I looked at pariscience. I thought I was to find paranormal activity. And it was a. in Holland, so a no-go. And then so it was Geneva or Los Angeles, Switzerland and in Geneva there was biology. So I did biology, I started biology. And then I was bored after two years and I said, "Oh gosh, I have to go to something else, psychology, okay, psychology." So I'm French, it's really good, you can keep on skiing, you can do lots of things. Because I was a top skier, I'm still a lamb. Anyway, so I went into psychology and it was psychology, technology and topology. But it was boring sometimes except genetics and except cross-cultural health psychology and mental health. And that's where I did my master of public health and I went to the WHO to do it. And it was a cross-cultural diagnosis where you see that mental health disease is classified according to culture. It was very interesting, it's even called ethnocycgytry, which is not used today because it doesn't make the business of Pharma. And it was very interesting because in my master's science that took a study, a multistentric from WHO to help them. And the result was that, for example, in Africa, the mental health diagnosis is done by the community. It's here, it's done by the doctor and the Pharma. The Pharma with their test. And the US was the most advanced, but it was also the one that was selling most Pharma. The solution, it was a case-vignette study. So how would they diagnose? And it was always very metodic but very business-oriented already, you know, very long, anyway, three years ago. So yeah, that's how I chose. And then from mental health, from WHO, I was co-opted and I was spotted out as somebody who could do research. And I went into geriatric medicine, aging, very good, anthropology of time. On life of people, I said, anthropology of space and time. And time is very interesting because outcome, you start with a body that's small, you have to wait until you develop. And then you age and what happens at the end of your life? How do you feel? How do you look back? And what does it serve? What purpose does it serve? Finally, you know, so that's how I got into science with a lot of methods, not just one method because I found that very quickly. That science is a way of thinking and the most important is critical thinking, never 100% sure. Always have an open door to doubt, which is not what the case today, right? It's people say it's like there's no, no, no, everybody's different. So there are many things that I learned directing interdisciplinary program and center on gerontology, geratic, on aging. And I wrote very quickly books on that and on the difference between men and women. And you know, always see where's the difference, where is the standard? And the last part to where I was fascinated is that I was offered, well, I want the mandate, the consultancy to do research on anti-aging medicine and regenerative medicine for the faculty with the Swiss Academy of Science and the government. And that was the most fascinating research that I could own my own way I wanted. That's how I loved life. And that was another open door to what is going on now, beside all the things I have done with WHO and UN, it's that everything is reversible. You can reverse even your even your age in a way you could reverse your skin condition if you put enough efforts not to believe what people are programming into your brain, but to say to your body and talk to yourself, stem cells and say, "Okay, tonight, you know, I heard there, please can you help me?" And we are communicating at another dimension in our own body. So this opened the door to so much different science up to transhumanist because technology is part replacement. And so I started to go into this field and I was like, "Wow, so I can answer many questions and many things that I have researched with ethics because I think that science without conscious, it's a very known sentence from, forgot his name, French author, science without conscience is like a shipwreck. It doesn't go anywhere." So you need, moral is not a very nice word, but I was, I think ethics in research instance or law, there are laws and we don't respect them. We go against nature and life and I have done a lot on that and so I was also expert on that, so I'm the WHO and in the European Union. So here I am after a long career on many many fields. So I'm still interested in everything. You pose everything. Obviously high, high level in, you know, UN and World Health organization, you know, you're mixing with some of the top, you are one of the top in, but you're mixing with all of these really interesting people. And I think I saw the first time I was introduced to you was that there was a clip that had gone viral and it been shared with me and I'd shared it on our Instagram account and I think it was like the most viewed clip that I'd ever, you know, put out millions and millions of people and had seen this and you were talking about Sun, I think you were speaking with some physicists over some of what they were doing there. And I found that fascinating because I think the large hydron colliders, I don't think I'll say that correctly. There's a lot of speculation around that. You know, they spent billions and billions on this thing and, you know, they were going to do all these sort of tests that were going to be really fascinating and could potentially answer some questions that, you know, some deep, deep questions people that wanted the answers to for a very long time. And then it sort of just went quiet, you know, so strange like all of a sudden we got a few bits in the media, but then not a lot was coming out of it. I'm thinking this could be the thing that creates a black hole or it could, you know, it could find out a bit into dimensionality and there's all of these potentials that could come of it and we didn't really hear anything. And then I think I heard you talking about some conversations that you'd had. So I'd love to, if it's okay with you to dig back into that and what did you heard at the time and what did you share? And have you heard anything since? Yeah. Well, I can add something to that as you're very open. It said I was intrigued by certain because I was in WHO, co-opted and paid for three years on the international health regulation and how to prevent an outbreak. But there are four types of outbreak. It's not just a virus which has to be proven. It's really crazy. What it went on. But anyway, it's infectious disease, foodborne, like salmonella outbreak and suddenly everybody's sick because they ate intoxication. Chemical, chemical plant just explodes and traverses the frontier and that's an outbreak of international concern. And the radio nuclear. And the radio nuclear is Chernobyl, Fukushima and it traverses very quickly from one company. But when I was in charge of the case studies, those four typologies because we were doing workshops and on the job training with the competency of people and how would they manage the outbreak and we were the way they did in their country. But this Chern, no, the Chern, the radio nuclear has to do with the Chern. And this is why I'm mentioning it now because I got interested and intrigued by this radio nuclear because the IAA, the International Energy Atomic Agency, I can never say it, International Atomic Energy, the UN, it's a UN agency, is in Vienna. And when there is a radio nuclear event, they only they go, "WHO cannot get in." And I was like, "How come? What's going on? Why, why are they?" And they are dealing with subatomic. They're going with radiation. They're going with the invisible. And each time I was organizing the courses, we had workshops a year online, you know, so with zooms and stuff. And then they had to come on the site here for three weeks and each region came and they were training. So I was inviting the heads of the International Atomic Agency, calling like that. And so there was some scientists and they came and we said, "You know, this is creating disease." And they said, "No, no, no, no, no." And the students, the students are adults. They are on the spot. They're epidemiologists. They're top of Ministry of Health. And so some were like me. They said, "You know, what are they talking about? They are terry glands, attack, cancer." And each time they were, you know, pushing it out like, "Don't talk about this. We know, you don't know." And I was like, "What's going on here?" So when I kept on organizing courses for the University of summer school of global health human rights and other On the spot for the master of public health and we went to the future because I knew everybody we we went there And we again invited somebody from from the stern and International atomic agency because they were too far. He was from the stern and he came to talk about the radio nuclear events and I said, but listen you There is the stern here So don't you think this is dangerous what you're doing under the stern because we are having a Large call LHC Like that a ring of 27 kilometers. You're going and you you just bombing electrons one against the other Isn't this like you know radioactive and radio nuclear and I was as a teacher I was asking the question because I could formulate it and There's a no not a tall, you know like like why are you even Trying to ask a question about it and it was so suspicious Because there are people who are in front of the stern with panels and you know even French people who say it's under our Agriculture and our farm. We don't want this. We don't know what's going on under and Each time they were putting it out. So you have to know that there are people resisting here who are doing rallies to tell stern tell us the truth and we don't agree because now they want to do the 91 kilometer ring Under so it will go to anisee French around French Leon and it's not just 27 it's larger and bigger with more technology so How come they have never talked of the secondary effects of this no no no no they don't want to talk okay So I was already in in a state of There is a collusion in their brain Not only in the sir and they're really hiding and not saying the truth I know terried glands and radioactive Elements can create cancer and polonium Can kill you like that. So this is the most dangerous if you put radioactive Waste in the sea it stays for 300 years with season more strong. You know more so Knowing this and all those you know and listen they know that there is something going on in the sir and that we're not aware of so once That was in 2016 17 when I had all this knowledge already and I set in Portugal I was invited and it was a nice dinner of a doctor who was doing the master public health so she invited me to see everybody and put me at the table of two Physicists from the sir and one in Geneva one in Portugal because there are many other mini-surances. It's not just Geneva and and I set at their table and I was so happy not to be in a boring table There's nothing worse than to be at the great party and sitting at the table where you don't have the same vibes and conversation So I was in the middle of the two and I kept on as much as I could because we were aided the table talking about what intrigued me and and I really awesome That to make it short the two questions that really intrigued me was You know, what are you doing special there and and how many dimensions this has intrigued me? I have still not to this day found a real definition of reality that doesn't have that has the same criteria so I think it is a Matsu Yeah, he says there are eight or nine. Yeah, anyway, I I said so how many dimensions officially are living in the sir and They both said 17 very affirmatively and I said well Can you give me a document or refer to me please? I'm taking the pen. I want to write it to write it down I'm a researcher. I need to check. I would like to know that. That's it's so important and They said oh, no, we don't know but we know it's 17 and I couldn't believe it. I said how come they don't know What what I okay? So I dig then a little bit more and I said You have an experiment can you can you describe something from another dimension and That they were look you know searching in their brain and I said well, can you something the most extraordinary that you have heard about because I wanted to have a result And and they said well, yes, yes, there is something and and then they started talking about the sirin Portal there's a portal for the LHC There's a door open a round door. You know like in the Stargate And I don't know if it says big it. Yeah, there is one picture that the person is quite small actually on it You can go and look for those interests that go and type sirin Portal LHC door and you will see so in front of the door they have some room a room They probably have many doors, but they have a room and they sit around the table and And I said so yeah, what happened he said well an entity came out came from this portal and and Like it sat at the table. I was like, but how is this and how what you mean? Entity is it a person is it a alien? What color are they like us and they couldn't answer anything? They said no, it's it's not We we know we just know it at sirin and They cannot describe it, but they have it second hand. It's not it's not third fourth. It's a very good friend who knows and So I said okay, I have to find something more because that's not enough. I so I say can you approve? And and this is a proof that they bring that is give something this I'm document and they said that this this entity the second time took a scarf And left a scarf is it what type of scarf in it? They don't know they don't do you know nothing to the detail They were really into the event another detail and this entity left again. So that's that's the the shoe scoop that started me going trying to look for that and so What I did is I went to look into the sirin Research then gender and I saw all those very strange names for everything But especially around the eclipse that Was announced on the 8th of April 23th if I remember They said that they would start again the collider because they had stopped it in 2018. They had been a problem So very strange there was a problem, but They started it again, and we I thought maybe there's something strange going on because they were we are in a war for me You know we are in either it's still the World War two either. It's another war, but it's a war of another dimension and I see that the Director of research is the head of research is Bertolucci. It's his name and this Bertolucci in his announcement And I have printed it 8th of April 24. It's 24. I've written it this director of sirin is telling That he says I read it because I don't think you can find it. It's like if you find it in the dark net, you know if you have to look for it Okay, so Top scientists at the large hydrant collider LHC says that the Titanic machine May possibly create or discover on 8th of April for the eclipse previously an imagined scientific phenomenon or unknown unknowns For instance an extra dimension, so that will be 18 So and they quote Sergio Berdo Lucci the head of research who says out of this door might come something or we might send something through it so and He his name is Sergio Berdo Lucci B-E-R-T-O-L-U-C-C-I so you can find who is Director for Research and Scientific Computing It's important. There is a computing element in all this at sirin briefing reporters and then they keep on talking And at the end they say We have to find this because it's crazy how you think that yeah, of course ads Berdo Lucci After this okay, no doctor later got in touch to confirm that yes indeed. There would be an open door But that even with the power of the LHC at his disposal he would only be able to hold it open a very tiny lapse of time 10 to 26 seconds seconds But during that infinitesimal amount of time we will be able to peer Into this open door either by getting something out of it or sending something into it Of course ads Berdo Lucci after this tiny moment the door with a game shot Bringing us back to our normal for dimensional world It would be a major leap in our vision of nature although of no practical use. That's not true. For the time being at least. And of course, there would be no risk to the stability of our world. And that's the end of the press release. So. - I mean, that's what a statement. - Yeah. - What about that? - So that's serious because they don't say 17-dimension, but they say time. And when you look at their agenda, and you know, you can have a look at the, you know, they have brochures on, they never list them very clearly. But you can see that this is near astronomy. It is linked to the research on astronomy. They talk that they're doing research on space and time. On warm home, on black home, on entanglement, you know, quantum theory. And many other things. So when you see that, you say, okay, so how can I verify what they're saying? And that's where the problem starts. And it's the same with everything micro and macro. We cannot check what they're saying to us about the universe. And we cannot check what they're talking to us about subatomic. And as a methodologist of science and critical thinker, I'm like, they can just fool us the whole way what they're doing. And I will add that the CERN has been put on the scene at the inauguration of the Gottard, Saint Gottard Tunal. And Saint Gottard means Saint God. Yeah, in Swiss German. So this Saint Gottard Tunal was inaugurated for traversing this just beside the bridge of the devil. And during the inauguration, our official politicians were standing there looking at the CERN open door with angels and demons going through it. And very crazy naked, you know, looking naked dance with horns on their heads. And at that time, I thought it looks awful, but now that I put it with the CERN, you're going, okay, there is something fishy going on here. And there are many other aspects that have been confirmed by security that there are tunels undergoing to the UN, to the web, to Genova, under the lake of Geneva. And so we are in a very important point in CERN because CERN is, the name comes from CERNUNOS, the God of the deer. And the deer in Latin is CERNUNOS. But it is an animal beautiful, but it's an animal with horns. And that's their cult. And it was also built on Apolonium, Apolonium altar, which was not for the best gods. So there are many tricks, there are many things like that. And why Geneva? Because Geneva is under the Montevian Code, the highest mountain, and probably one of the most powerful in the world mountain that we don't know everything about it yet. But the geobiologists say that there is enormous energy coming from that mountain because it's a top. So that was a big one. - How do you, I mean, you sat at table with some people telling you just some extraordinary things and you're a scientist. I'm trying to put myself in your shoes like, I would dedicate my life to figure in this out. Like how do you then sort of go to bed and just go, okay, I've processed that, you wake up in the morning. And what do you do with that information? How do you, how's it, has it sent you down some rabbit holes since? - No, but it's an investigation. So for me, it's part of the research, you know, public health research is something that is in the open and you're trying to protect people. You're trying to, you're doing a scientific investigation with a ethical reason. It's to help people understand. So we can do prevention and we can stop if this is dangerous. But making the public aware is fundamental for consciousness. And so we can change something. But there is something fishy going on. What the rabbit hole is, is that one Sunday, there is no hazard, I think. A Sunday and I go to where energy is good. So I went to a church where there was a mass. I could also go to a Hindu or a Buddhist, you know. For me, it's the energy and the connection that counts. Anyway, I go out, I open the newspaper and I rarely do that because I only see lies. I rarely watch TV now because I can decode the lies on and on and I'm like, it's okay. I laugh for a little while and then I say it's ridiculous. Every morning, and I can invite everybody who doesn't believe me to just open the TV in the morning or for the news. And you say news negative or positive, negative, negative, positive, negative, positive, negative. I mean, it's crazy. Only negative bashing, bashing on your brain, your soul, that who you are, that there is no hell, there is everybody, natural disaster everywhere. The, if it is a little river, that when they make it a big flood and there's no solution, it's terrible. And so, so you have to be very aware what they're doing. And that's where you start. It's not a conspiracy. We're not, the conspiracies what they are doing. They're conspiring against us. We are a conspiraclast. We are stopping any conspiracy. But anyway, this newspaper had on the second page, the Lord of the Ring, a ring of the Lord of the Ring of Sauron. And it was written, it took the real image of the ring. And the title was, under it was the Sauron, you know, linked to it to the Sauron. And the title was, and the Havet in front of me in French, though I'll translate it, "Garantee of collusion, magic or evil." Question mark. So that's the answer to, you know, where's my rabbit hole? Well, I was like, Lord of the Ring is a very interesting Tolkien knew a lot of things when he wrote that. And I know he wrote a lot of Viking, because that's another rabbit hole. The Vikings have been censored so much. And Tolkien wanted to put it in a movie, this I have seen. And he was forbidden. He had to change it. His Tolkien version to look more English than Viking. So you have to know that. You have to find the old version and make a film now. Anyway, so this film was fantastic. And it really showed the war against evil. So this ring is the ring of evil. And they're taking this symbol for those who don't know that Sauron is evil. So I'll read it now. A ring to bring everyone in, it's crazy. A ring to bring them together. And push them into how you call it dark tin-ebb into the evil hole. There is a name in English for that. That is the evil power of the ring of Sauron in the Lord of the Rings. We can take that formula very nicely to describe the 91 circular ring that the Sauron wants to dig under the big Geneva, the great Geneva, which is the biggest Geneva with France. It's a very good description because it really does look like a black hole of energy. That is the power of the ring that attributes to the person who wears it to be invisible. The future collage near circular also has a capacity to make disappear every democratic rights of the populations that will be touched. As long as making it a fair thumbable, and impossible to understand, it's real benefits. And this asks our authorities, our federal and Cantonese authorities are very happy about the solution to avoid the blackout. It's like a cover on a casserole when we are cooking. It is signed, rachad, harmonios. Not at all the Swiss name looks like Greek. Wow. And that, you know, they have a rule in their secret societies and stuff that they have to tell us the truth. They have to tell us, if we do not say no, I don't consent to your ring, then the door is open for them to do what they want. There is like a pact that they impose on us without our consent or no consent is consent for them. Do you see a cross over, a cross over between this subject and sort of UAP subject, UFO subjects? Is there a connection there that you can see or that you've made? The hypothesis that in fact, there are in their circuits of nanotech that we don't understand and that there are things of alien, this, it is the typology of some alien technology that we don't know at the nano scale. And it is moving in a way that we don't know. So they even quoted, I was looking for his name, it's a surgeon. Oh, I can't. Len, I was looking for his name. I will have to find it. A surgeon, he was not convinced at all about alien implants. And one of his patients said, listen, I really want you to look, it was a seventh or eighth case in California. And he said, okay, I will do it for free. I just want to make sure that this is a lie. And he did the surgery and he found an implant that didn't obey any rules of surgery. I don't know if you know about that. You've heard about that? Yes. It's amazing. One of the keys to unlock the link between everything we're talking about, he said it did not respond the same in a surgery normally. You can cut in this, you couldn't, it couldn't cut it, you couldn't move it, it was obeying other rules. And he was then convinced and he became one of the persons who were taking out implants from people and military people who were abducted and things like that. Well, in this, in this injection, there are elements we have never seen in biology. And this is Carrie Madagge, Dr. Carrie Madagge who do my, I do some lives and who has almost died because she told the truth of seeing like, like an alien under the microscope at the temperature of human when she put drops of this injection and she heated it up and it started moving and you know, like in the film alien, small little, little hidrasta. And it was, it was scary and the energy was very bad. She's very sensitive and we were talking about it even, you know, now she doesn't even want to talk about it. She's like, it's very evil energy. So there are many angles like that where you start to see that there are other things and in the autopsy, you can find long, long threads of polymers that are taking out life and trying to replace it, hybridize humans. So there is a plan of transhuman hummus. That's why I can make the link very easily with alien form of life. So it's like a hybridization that is not harmonious. Anyway, for your question I'd stop there, but you see how many elements we go into now. Have you had any pushback from being so open about these subjects and talking so openly about them? Have you found pushback from people? Do you? Well, I'm not, I'm not tied up with a salary that I have to justify. So I am free to speak for the first time many years. When I was at the University of Geneva, that's not very long ago, but when I started talking I got every course lectures canceled. And I said, yeah, it's like, yes, finally there is something happening in this world that looks like it's getting really serious. But I was not free to speak before because I could, you know, I've lost my job, but when I spoke of astrology once, once, 20 years ago, and I brought a scientific article. It was geontology and astrology. It was really interesting. The professor who was the head of the center was getting, but he got in a hysteria. And I thought, oh, not open at all. So I was like, I'm challenging them too much and not open. So I only share that, I never share that in my circle of work. But today, I don't need, and the fact that I can speak is really very liberating for me because I have not been pushed back, especially when I come, you know, to podcasts like you, because they can't follow. They think, oh, you know, they're trying anyway to make us look crazy. But my dad, as a military, was already reading books on aliens and UFOs. So I knew already that that was a topic I have studied since I'm young. And no question, it's possible. I've never met one personally that I know. Maybe he was groomed. I mean, everything is possible. I have met some on a boat who cruise from California to Mexico who say and claim that they are from some planet. And yeah, maybe, you know, how can we know? In science, if you cannot prove you have to still have a healthy doubt, you don't know everything. And the genome is one of the key questions to debunk. Yeah. Yeah. You've spent a lot of time looking into this, isn't this? This has been a deep part of your life. Where do you see us in? I don't know. Let's frame this question. This is an interesting one. Where are we in 10 years? I mean, based on what you've seen, based on the experiences that you've had and the research that you've done and the things that interest you, where fast forward 10 years, where are we? How does it look? But I think we are already now on different timelines, if we can talk about it like that. For example, we are ahead of people who ignore what we are saying. We are ignorant of things that some people are ahead of us. So what happens with this? You know, they're trying to put us all in singularity is near, I don't know, you know, singularity, university. All the brains, all the computers come together. AI is directing you. That's where they want to go. So that one group is going there. I don't have much hope for some of them because I hope, I mean, it's their destiny, you know, there's no hope to have it. It's without any emotion that we have to be sometimes. They're going into AI. They might be clones because clones exist. There are fabrics. You can go look, talk to people who have in Korea. They're doing so. There are some in on this earth. And I mean, that's a crazy hypothesis, but if somebody said 60 percent people will disappear like that when the frequency will change. So I'm ready, you know, I have to go like that. Okay, so if this is one timeline of a scenario of a part of the population on this population and is there not, might not be people. And then there are people who want to stay human and want to learn knowledge. And this is another branch at the other extreme that want to go back to the natural, let's call it divine beings that we are and want to now have the chance to develop who they really are without the constraint of electric grid that is cutting off our magnetic power. And not only magnetic power, it's the emergence of our new self because they're cutting off their own self. They know. Those are attacking us. They know, but they're not us. So they don't want us. So they're different. For me, there's another species. So in 10 years, either there's a group there who will be out or if the dimension, if we can jump dimensions like in Marvel, we will be in another dimension. But I think that we might also, that's another hypothesis is that if we have this grid, electric grid and it falls. And let's say, because they know since 2012 that we're going into a new era, the Mayek calendar, what do you want, that we have the chance to update and upgrade. And there are solid flares and there's a shumann resonance and there's all the frequency and many measurements that show that. that we are changing our frequency and our cell, we might even become a self-regenerating and we can live longer. This is also a possibility. And then this group might attract more and more and then we will be able to live very differently in ten years. That's what I hope. We don't know because we don't know everything. But I can see signs of things happening. What do you think? I don't know. I don't know why I think now. I'm going to lay in bed tonight. I think you can just stare at the ceiling and try and process this. Let's wind it back a bit to layman's terms. Is this a positive or, I know, it's so simplistic. I know. But I mean, I like to ask the question, are we moving in a positive or a negative into a positive or negative direction? And I know that's really, really simplistic isn't it? Because as you've just said, you know, it's so complex and there's so much that goes into it. But I guess it's how you feel. Do you feel as if we've got a good chance of something coming from this that's positive? Or do you think that, you know, it's a very negative story. It's a good question. Yeah. Since the beginning of Covid, I'm sure we're going in the right direction. We are breaking. We're breaking the prison boards. Something for me, it was like, yes. I didn't know how difficult with the traverse, you know, the tornadoes. But no, I really think it's needed. I mean, it's necessary. We are lucky that there is things opening up. I'm, I'm, but sometimes worried so many people denying that the hardest is to see how people are closed to openness to a fraternity and a humanity is sorority. So much bigger and an expanding people, some people are so afraid they created fear. You see, it's not for nothing. They did fear is that those who have fearful are closed because anything new, they think it's a virus. It will, it is a computer virus. Yes, but it is definitely not. It is IT. It's AI. It's what you want, but it is not. I have many signs that that's that's that's the real thing. But I'll tell you other stories. I have a spiritual logic in my life. I live with other criteria than most scientists. So when you do meditation and I've done it, you know, I started with my Rishi Yogi, but I then tried many different types. But I met very interesting groups and Hindus and Tibetans and and tail on, you know, but when you go into a meditation state, you can really go to other dimensions. It really is possible. And the more you do it and the more you experiment, the more you realize there is another realm that has been hidden to us and I make permanent or dreams and things like that. And so my dreams are getting better, but I'm still working in my dreams all the time. It must be still a lot of work to do. But no, when I want to say one of the Hindu leaders, she's called daddy junkie. And she just passed away at 103 years old two years ago. In the U.N., I got a prize from Kafean and so I got attention from some of the spiritual leaders. And she invited me to Oxford, seminar with all the top guys from everywhere. I didn't care. I was myself. But she kept me in the loop and I went to meditate with her and met other religious leaders. I was involved with them at the international level. And so she gave me a medal and you know, the Hindus have a big capacity of translocation. You read the books of the Master of Spalding. They have many, yeah, a big tradition. Anyway, she gave me a medal with a round square with a cross in all the last square, the last quarter of the round was black. And at the end of the black, there was a diamond. And it was gold. And so she said, you see, we're going to arrive here. So that's now we're going there. And she gave me the medal to wear and I always think about that and I go, yeah, yeah, it's happening. It's happening. We're going to this diamond golden age and the lies have to be have to be disclosed so that they fall. It's energetically. And yeah, it is getting better. And there are things that we don't see that are happening. But I think it's mainly we have to keep the whole but I don't see no, no, they're programming disaster because they know that we're changing. Yeah, that sounds positive. Yeah, don't you? Yeah, yeah. I do. Yeah. Absolutely. I think it's it feels as though I mean, maybe because I'm just I mean that in that space and I'm talking to people who are very open minded. Who are, you know, real really searching for answers. And I think less so the sort of people that are just sitting there scrolling through, you know, mindless people dancing on TikTok or whatever. You know, people that are really searching for some of the bigger questions in life. So it feels positive for me because people are asking the right questions. But maybe that's because I'm in that space where, you know, I'm with a collection of people. I don't know. We have to be with the positive, but we have to try to bring the negative people with us that we actually we don't need to do anything. It's a magnet. It's like a magnet. They should come and we, we by doing your your program, you're helping people. So we choose it if they want. They're free. It's such a complicated subject. It's so complex. And that's what I mean by it's a lot is there's so much that goes into it. People when people looking at this subjects and I guess a lot of people that watch my stuff is, you know, a lot of the people have this sort of ET hypothesis. Something from far away travels here really quickly, really simple to understand, you know, and I think when you when you start removing the layers and a bit like peeling the onions that I care this this and then there's this and then that goes and and we might be aliens that we don't know. It's it goes very far because I was so okay I arrived on this planet. And you say, why did I come and I can in my meditation I can see myself refusing to come because it's too difficult and and that they convinced me no, no, you go. You need we need you and so I you know if you do that, you're everything takes more sense and we are all, you know, you know, dust of stars or we're from different our making is is is the universal. But so we are we might all be our real nature is is is divine so what does it mean it means it's somewhere from the universe the problem is once I was on I was in sometimes my life brings me to very strange things it's it's called the I'm so far from anywhere angle back from and it is very high level and the Vatican is wrong and everybody and they had invited the the Nobel Prize of Chris cast 9 you know I cut the little genome and you do the engineering and I had to replace like one week before three days even. Oh, can you replace her because the Nobel Prize who won the Chris Park casc cannot come and and I said listen I'm not going to replace her but I'm going to talk about ethics. You know and I know that nobody can criticize me for because they don't bring ethics enough and they have to say yes it's fantastic you so I went and I was on the same panel as the astronomer my or who won the Nobel Prize for exoplanet first exoplanet and I was going to his courses when I was student because I wanted to know the universe I went to astronomy courses and I find myself now with his this professor retired and. And and all and so I did my thing on ethics you know that anyway was the is this for float provoking and then we had this debate and people could ask questions to both of us and and I asked him a question. And I said so you believe in exoplanets so do you believe there is extra terrorist real life somewhere else. And he said, right away, not even thinking, no, there is no life out there. And I almost burst into laughter, but I couldn't, you know, I thought it's crazy. He doesn't even have a doubt that he doesn't know everything. You see how humility, the lack of humility is, for me, is not scientific. So he's bored or he was programmed. And at the end of his life, the only thing he knows is there are exoplanets, but there is no life. We are the only ones. That's ridiculous. Yeah, that's crazy. So this, this is to show that, yeah, yeah, we have to be open. And when you meet people like that, you're sorry for them. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's bonkers, isn't it? It's bonkers to think that we are so special, so unique that there's nothing else that we fully understand it all. It's crazy. But even our body, you see, you think of, oh, my, is working without me. That was a discovery at one point in my life. Yeah. But you see one thing that people, if I, they, to process, I think it's important. So we are frequency. Where every molecule has a wave, every wave has a frequency, every frequency can be transformed into a sound when I speak is a frequency. A color, a salary generation, frequency is everything. And I think the genome is an instrument like a music instrument. And we are just playing the music of this instrument we have with the whole rest of the universe. And, and if people don't feel good because they're putting intentionally 5G and wife by everywhere. So our frequency goes down because it's electric. So grounding has been, has been studied that if you go barefoot in the grass, your electromagnetic field starts to get back again to, and it's healing. It do the same in sacred geometry places being. So if those who listen today are starting to think that it's important to choose the colors, the music, what you hear, you listen, what you eat, your frequency, and you bless it. And you put your good energy on the water, your good energy, and you start to take a habit of leaving the small things are the most important almost. I give you an example. People are going to freak out this. No, I'm kidding. But you know, when we buy something, we have code bars or QR codes. The geobiologist and radiastasis in France, I took, I took courses with them because I think that's one of the keys of things I don't understand is the energy of the universe and how to balance it. They said that the code bar puts down the energy of what is in the pack. So they can even show the little thread, those who are clear-voined, clear-voined, that they measure with, radiastasis can be with bovis, with pandalam or with our drawings or with the lesser. There are many ways to measure. And the way to take that off is to make it alpha on each of the codes three, four times or eight, you know, infinite. So I do that on my food every time I buy something that I, what is interesting is that I'm blessing it at the same time. So you're, you're doing something, you're doing what you're thought at the same time as you're cutting down their codes. Because they are actually encoding everything so we cannot raise. But I think that will disappear. Eventually we, we, this is going to disappear in the next few years. Those code bars and the QR codes because some people know that. Yeah. You knew that? No, no, I didn't know that. I do now. Yeah. So that's a small thing to do in the day and also to choose really well, you know, what you put around you and people and the thinking. We have to be much more careful now because the energy dark energy and the people can affect you some other way. Or to clean myself, I take, you know, shower with salt. Salt has very good properties to clean things like that or at some sort of essential oil. So we have to all work on that, I think today. Yeah. So you're proud. Okay, well, look, this has been absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for for talking to me and up. Yeah, I've been gripped. I'm going to rewatch this and take some notes and things. This has been fantastic. Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate it. I hope it was not, you know, too interdisciplinary. No, we covered a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we crammed so much in and it's to be able to bounce around. This is always the way isn't it? It's always the case when you look at something as you said earlier on, it's so complex that you one thing moves on to another thing, which is another, you know, and it's part of that. And then and I can imagine in your world as, you know, someone looking at it from a scientific perspective and with an ethics perspective. And trying to bring those two things together can be quite quite a difficult thing. I am always looking at a sense of coherence. It was in psychology, something very interesting. It was the guy called Antonovsky. And it was very interesting because that's how you keep your mental health in the balance sense of coherence. So in a complex world, you know, chaos and order, go and read what's his own pyrogene. He was invited to the certain. I didn't have time to study everything he said. But this sense of coherence, you can have it by having scenario a scenario B, say, you know, sin hypothesis and having a sense of coherence with your life. It's very important sense of control that you're controlling your your way of thinking and not it's not a mess. That's why I think it's it's good that we talk and we can debrief. You know, yeah, completely awesome. Superb. Well, look, thank you so much. I really, really do appreciate it. Thank you for your great questions. I appreciate it to the discussion. No problem. Anytime. Hopefully we'll get another chance to speak again in the future. Okay. Yes. I'll do it. All right. Take care. Okay. Take care. Bye. Bye. [Music]