CBP 1.02 | Introducing yourself

Coffee break Portuguese, lesson 2. Hola, welcome to a coffee break Portuguese. I'm Rafael, your Portuguese language teacher, and I'm here again with Eva. Hola, Eva. Yes, I'm Eva and I'm the learner in this series. This is the course where we're learning Portuguese right from the beginning. This is lesson 2, as we said, so if you haven't listened to the first lesson yet, then you can do so by finding the episode in the podcast feed. So let's get on with lesson 2, Eva, are you ready? Yep, I'm ready to go, and I think last time you taught us how to say "let's go" in Portuguese, didn't you? Vamos lá. Vamos lá. So Rafael, what are we looking at today in our lesson? Right, so the topics for today are greetings for different times of the day. We're also going to learn how to ask for someone's name. We'll talk a little bit about the concept of formal and informal language in Portuguese, and also forms of addressing people. Great, because now we know how to ask how somebody is, it'll be good to ask what their name is as well, and be able to introduce ourselves. That's right, before we get started, let's do a quick review of what we learned in lesson 1. Good idea. Great, so Eva, como está? Hey, obrigada. Y vocé? Estoy muito bem hoje. Oh, that was a new word. What was hoje? Hoje, so at the end of my sentence, I added the word "Oj", which means "today". Okay, so you said "I'm very well today". That's right. Oj, this word can go at the end of the sentence, but it can also go at the beginning. So I could also say "Oj, estou muito bem". Hoje, estou muito bem. Perfect. Great, we've already learned something new today. Great. Excellent. So we're going to start with the main lesson, looking at greetings for different times of the day. So in Portuguese, in the morning, we're going to use "Bongia". And as usual, I'll leave a little gap for our listeners to repeat that phrase, and then I'll try saying it myself. So let's hear that once more. "Bongia". "Bongia". "Bongia". Does that mean "good day"? Yeah, it means "good day" literally, and it's used in the morning when greeting someone. Okay, so "Bongia". "Bongia". And in the afternoon, we would say "Botage". "Bowatage". "Bowatage". "Bowatage". Good. So that means "good afternoon". "Bowatage". "Bowatage". Okay, so we've had "Bongia" and "Bowatage". And what about later on in the day? Or "Good night" or "Good evening", we would say "Bowatage". "Bowatage". "Bowatage". So that's right. And in Portuguese, there is no distinction for when you arrive or when you leave. Like you do in English, I suppose. Yeah. So you'd say "Good evening" when you arrive and "Good night" when you leave? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, so there's no such thing in Portuguese. We just say "Bowatage". Okay, so that doesn't necessarily mean you're leaving somebody, you're going to bed. You're going to bed, you're saying "Good night". It could just be when you walk into a restaurant basically evening. Exactly. Correct. And since we're talking about "Bongia". "Bowatage". "Bowanoit". There are some interesting sounds here. So "Bongia". "Gia". "Bowatage". "Tage". "Bowanoit". "Bowatage". So different accents in the Portuguese speaking world might pronounce these syllables slightly differently. Okay. But we'll talk more about this in today's cafezinho with Catalina. Right. Okay. And one more thing I wanted to ask you about these. We're using the same word in "Good evening" and "Good night" at the start. Is that right? So we're using "Bowatage". But for "Bongia" is that the one that's slightly different? So we have a different word for "Good" for "Gia". Yeah, so that's got to do with the grammatical gender of words in Portuguese in this case of nouns. Okay. "Gia" is a masculine word. "Ugia". Okay. And "Targi" and "Noiti" are feminine words. So we have to agree "Bong", "Gia", and "Boa". Okay. That's a lot for the start of this lesson, but I imagine that's something that we'll come back to later on in the course, is it? Definitely. Great. But for now, we know our three greetings for different times of the day, so that's great. So how would you greet someone in the afternoon? I would say "Bowatage". "Bowatage". Great. So our second point today is learning how to ask for someone's name. Great. That sounds very useful for when we're meeting people to practice our Portuguese with. Yes, and we're going to learn one of the most common forms for that. So we would ask, "Kom su shama". "Kom su shama". "Kom su shama". Yes. Just attention at the word "Kom". Okay. So "Kom" at the end. "Kom". "Kom". "Kom su shama". "Kom su shama". "Kom su shama". "Kom su shama". That was good. And that's what is your name or what are you called? What are you called? Or even how do you call yourself? What do you call yourself? Ah, so it's very similar to French, or Spanish, or Italian, which some of our listeners might know where we're literally asking. How do you call yourself? But it's much more, a much more of a natural way to just ask what is your name? Correct. So the answer to that will be "Mishamo, hafayo". "Mishamo, hafayo". Okay. So you literally saying, "I call myself Raphael"? That's right. I call myself Raphael. "Mishamo, hafayo". So as you said, it's just like Italian and Spanish, where we would say "Michamo" or "Michamo". So I would say "Mishamo, Eva". That's right. So let's try it again. "Kom su shama". "Mishamo, Eva". "Kom su shama". "Mishamo, hafayo". Now remember, you can also ask "and you" instead of repeating the question, right? Of course. Remember the word for "and you", the phrase? Yeah, can I ask "Ivose". "Mishamo, hafayo". Now we've talked a little bit in our last lesson about the difference between formal and informal "you". So this question we had "Kom su shama" is that informal or formal in Brazil and Portugal? So in Brazil, it would be considered just like a neutral question. But in Portugal, it would be considered a formal question. And that's because we are using the "s" in "Kom su shama". Okay. So that's the mark of formality, because it refers to the form of address "Vose". Okay. So if we were to imagine the full sentence, it would be something like "Kom su shama voce". Right. But we don't need to add "Vose" here. So we just say "Kom su shama", "Kom su shama". Okay. That makes sense. So we can have a look at the informal version of this sentence in Portugal. Yeah. Was that what we used to for you? That's for to. Yeah. So in that case, it would be "Kom su shama". So that sounds quite similar to our first question, "Kom su shama". But was there an extra "s" on the end of "shama"? And also, did I hear that "2" in there? Okay. So the first thing to note here is, yes, you're right. In the first version, we had "shama", whereas in the second one, "shamas". Okay. So that's signaling to us that we're talking about "2". Okay. And not "Vose". So the verb form changes. And the second point is, no, we didn't hear "2", but something related to it, okay? That our company's the verb "shama". So we heard "t". So "Kom su shamas". "Kom su shamas". Yes. "Kom su shamas". Can we hear that side by side with the other version? So the formal version, "Kom su shama". In formal version, "Kom su shamas". "Kom su shama". Excellent. And the answer is exactly the same. "Mishamo". "Mishamo eva". For example. So an interesting point is that there is a slight difference here between the way these answers are formed in Brazil and in Portugal, for example. Right. So I said "Mishamo hafaya". And that's perfectly fine in Brazil. But in Portugal, it would be "shamo me hafaya". Oh. Yes, so we have the word "me" changing position there. Instead of starting the sentence, it goes after the verb. Okay, so the exact same two words there, but just switched round in order. That's right. So in Brazil, "Mishamo" and in Portugal, "shamo me". Okay, so "shamo me eva". That's right. Okay, that makes sense. That's not too complicated. Not at all. And I'm guessing this difference between "Mishamo" and "shamo me". It's not going to cause a huge breakdown in communication wherever you're traveling in the Portuguese-speaking world. I imagine would you still be understood whichever of these you're using in Brazil or in Portugal? Absolutely not. You can use either, and it's just good to know that you probably hear both forms at some point in your life. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, shall we practice the informal way? Yeah, that sounds good. So if you were in Portugal, what would the informal dialogue look like? Okay, so I could ask you, como te chamas? "Shamo me Rafael". ¿Y tú? "Shamo me eva". Oh, no. I feel like something's really missing here. I really want to say something like, nice to meet you, please to meet you. How would we say that in Portuguese? Muito prazer. Muito prazer. Muito prazer. Muito prazer. Muito prazer. That's it. So prazer, and this word that means pleasure. And then we add in "muito" to it, which we've learned in lesson one already. Yeah, in phrases like "muito bem". "Muito bem". That's right. So "muito prazer". So it's a great pleasure meeting you. "Muito prazer". Now, there are a couple of possible replies to that. One of them is "o prazer améu". "O prazer améu". "O prazer améu". Almost. So we're starting the sentence with the letter "o", but it's going to sound like a "o". Very quick, "o". "O". "O prazer améu". So we have four words in the sentence. "O prazer améu". "O prazer améu". "O prazer améu". "O prazer améu". That's it. Well, it's quite difficult to say quickly, but I'll practice. So I would say "muito prazer". "O prazer améu". And what does that literally mean? Is that like nice to meet you two? Yeah, well, it literally means the pleasure is mine. Okay. "O prazer améu". So another way of saying the same thing is with one word actually. We're going to say "igua ment". "igua ment". "igua ment". "igua ment". That's right. So "igua ment" means "equally" or "likewise". Okay. So maybe a little bit more formal than "o prazer améu". But really, we don't need to worry too much about this. Yeah, okay. But that's two responses to when somebody says "wuito prazer". "O prazer améu" or "igua ment". Great. So far, we've learned how to ask what someone's name is. And we've also looked at the possible replies to that in a conversation when you meet someone for the first time. Yeah. So what's the next thing we're going to learn today? Well, the next thing I would like to discuss actually is that difference that we noticed when we were learning how to ask what is your name in Portuguese. So we learned that we could say "kommutsu shama". But we also learned that we could say "kommutsu shama". And then I explained that in Brazil, there's no difference in terms of formality when you're using "kommutsu shama". But in Portugal, "kommutsu shama" would be considered formal and "kommutsu shama" is informal. Okay. So you would hear both forms being used in Brazil by different people, but they don't have any difference in formality. They're just personal options. They're personal options, but you wouldn't really hear "kommutsu shama" in Brazil because in Brazil, there is no distinction between two and voce. And voce has become the more widely used form in Brazil as a way of addressing someone as a you. That makes sense. So in Brazil, we're more likely to hear the voce form and that's just totally neutral, either informal or formal. And in Portugal, we will hear two and voce, but that's informal and formal. That's right. That is not to say that there is no formal way of addressing people in Brazil. And in fact, in the Portuguese speaking world, the most common way and perhaps safest way of playing with levels of formality is with the use of forms of address. That is the way you address people. So we're going to learn a couple of words here that you can use in your sentences to make sure you're being formal or perhaps respectful. Okay. Right. So the first word is the masculine word, so that's "sengor". "Sengor". "Sengor". "Sengor". And is that like saying "Sir", almost? Yeah, sounds like "Sir", that's right. "Sir" or "Mr". Yeah, so it's maybe used a bit more commonly in Portuguese than "Sir" is. Absolutely. Yeah, so that's the masculine. The feminine form would be "sengor", "sengor". "Sengor". No, attention there. "Sengor", "no". So we have the "NH", which produces this sound "ngha". "ngha". So "sengor". "Sengor". And "sengora". "Sengora". That's it. And do you also notice any other changing sound here? You might have to help me with that. Okay. Pay attention to the way the letter "o" sounds in both words. "Sengor", "sengora". So the masculine forms tend to have closed forms, so "sengor". "O", "sengor". That's it. And the feminine forms for certain words tend to have a more open sound. "Sengora", "sengora". Okay, I heard the difference now. So "sengor", "sengora". Correct. And you will see this pattern in other words as well. Ah, good. I'll look out for it then. Excellent. Now let's learn how to use these words in sentences. So we've been learning how to say "komusushama". Okay. So you want to make sure you're being formal. You can add "sengor" at the end of the sentence. Okay. What was that sound you said before, "sengor"? "O". "O". Yes, we heard this before, the letter "o". Ah, was this when we were doing "o", "razer", "e-me-o"? That's right. So it's the letter "o", but it sounds like "o". Okay, so "o-sengor". And we can just add that straight onto the question. That's right. So it would be like "komusushama" "o-sengor". So we are asking, "What do you call yourself?" And "you" is being replaced by "o-sengor". Okay, so let's hear that phrase one more time. "komusushama" "o-sengor". That's right. Then the feminine form for this sentence would be "komusushama" "o-sengor". Okay, so I recognize the "sengor" word. And what was the word just before that? So that's the letter "e", but it will sound like "a". "o-sengor". "o-sengor". That's right. "o-sengor". Perfect. So I was adding "o-sengor" and "a-sengor" onto our "komusushama" question. Could we add that onto the other question we had in the two form, the "komusushama"? Well, we can't, because "komusushama" is always informal, no matter what you do, okay? Okay, so just, so it's super clear in my mind, can we summarize how to "vose" and "o-sengor" and "jada" kind of rates in their levels of formality and Portugal and Brazil? Right. So, in Brazil, there is no distinction between "to" and "vose" in terms of formality. And "vose" is the most widely used form. In Portugal, there is a distinction between "to" and "vose". "to" is informal and "vose" is more formal. If we want to be even more formal than "vose", we're going to use those two words that we've learned today, "o-sengor" and "a-sengor". So, let me give you an example here. If I were in Portugal, I would not address my professor at university as "vose". Okay. Even though it is slightly formal, I would address him as "o-sengor" or "her" as "a-sengor". Okay. And then in Brazil, the only way to ask the question formally then is to use "o-sengor" as "sengor". That's right, because "vose" will always be neutral. Great. Sounds good. Oh, that's a lot today. Yeah, we've covered a lot so far. And I guess it's time for our break. I think it's a much needed break today. Até logo. Até logo. Hola, it's Mark from Coffee Break here. I hope you're enjoying learning Portuguese through these episodes. But I thought you might like to know that we have a full online course available, which includes extra resources to accompany each lesson of Coffee Break Portuguese. Our online course includes a video version of each lesson, bonus audio episodes and written lesson notes. To find out how you can access the course and get the most out of Coffee Break Portuguese, just visit coffeebreakportchuggies.com. [Music] Welcome back to this second lesson of Coffee Break Portuguese. It's now time to head over to Catalina, for today's Cafézinho with Catalina, in which she's going to tell us about two more interesting pronunciation points in Portuguese. Hola, over to you Catalina. [Music] Bon dia a todos. Hello again, and welcome back to Cafézinho Concaterina. In this episode of Coffee Break Portuguese, you'll be learning about using greetings at different times of the day. And I'm delighted. It's too much content. That profile chose this topic. Why? Because it gives us another excellent opportunity to look at how words are sometimes pronounced slightly differently in the different places where Portuguese is spoken. Let's think about those greetings, and we will start with Buonoit. Do you remember how Rafael pronounced Buonoit? He said Buonoit, whereas I say Buonoit with a soft T sound. But we know this already. Remember Ótimo and Ótimo? It's exactly the same. When a T is followed by an E, or an I, then in Brazil, that is pronounced as a Ch sound, whereas in Portugal, which pronounced it as a T. Now, let's turn our attention to the other two greetings. Good morning is Buon dia, and good evening is Buotard. In this case, we have the sound in Portugal, when these followed by an E, or an I, but you may remember Rafael pronounced these as a G sound, and I say Buon dia, and Buotard. But he says Buon dia, and Buotard. Again, these are slight differences, and you'll get used to hearing both pronunciations in our lessons. It doesn't matter which you choose, you will be understood wherever you go. That's all for today, Ombregada e Deus. Ombregada, Catarina. I think it's always really useful to hear different accents we're learning in new language, so that was all really interesting to hear. So now, let's put into practice all that we've learned today in a nice dialogue. Okay, let's give it a go. Okay, so in this dialogue, we're going to practice greetings, asking what someone's name is, saying nice to me too, how are you, and saying goodbye, all these things. Oh, that's a lot. Okay, we'll try to fit in as much as we can. Okay, so imagine we are in a formal situation. Okay, we don't know each other. Okay. And for this one, remember, Eva, when we've learned how to ask end you. So what was the phrase we've learned? So we learned Ivoce. That's right. So now, we're going to use those two words that we've learned in today's lesson, Useñor. Useñor. They are going to replace voce. Okay, so to say, and you, formally, very formally, we would say iosignor. Iosignor, yes. Or yesignor. That's right. Okay, let's get started with our conversation. Bom dia, como está a senhora? Bom dia, estou bem obrigada. Iosignor? Eu também, obrigado. Como se chama? Me chamo Eva. Iosignor? Me chamo Rafael. Muito prazer. Igualmente. Muito bem. Excellent. Okay. That was okay. That was very good. So I recognized the word "també" that we had last time as well. You said, "You were also well, I think, using "també"? Yeah, I said "giltambé". Me too. Perfect. What a nice dialogue. And I think it's the perfect place to stop for today. So that's it for Lesson 2 of Coffee Break Portuguese. But don't forget that the Coffee Break Portuguese experience involves much more than this audio lesson. As we have additional materials available to help you take your learning further. Exactly. The full Coffee Break Portuguese course features video versions of the lesson. Comprehensive lesson notes and a bonus audio lesson which will help you take your learning further. And we're just about to record that bonus lesson now. And I'm looking forward to putting what I've learned into practice. To access all of these bonus resources, just visit CoffeeBreakPortuguese.com. And you can also sign up for our mailing list to get more help with your Portuguese. And "etudo por hoje". Ah, I recognize one of those words from the start of this lesson. "Oj". "Oj". That was today, right? And I started my sentence with "etudo". Ah, we had "tudo" today. Everything is well, so are you saying that's everything for today? That's everything for today. "etudo por hoje". "etudo por hoje". Ciao! You have been listening to a CoffeeBreakLanguages production for the RadioLingua Network. Copyright 2023 RadioLingua Limited. Recording Copyright 2023 RadioLingua Limited. All rights reserved.