CboysTV on Leaving Cormorant, Kens Secret Life, & Tax Evasion

yeah we've always been buddies ken against ken's will i used to think that you were just a legend ryan really he used to you guys just feel it coming thin ice yeah i can't i'm fired up iced over this morning we messed up by giving ryan a quad because he hasn't wrote it if you're going to play the system you can't do that and be public about it oh come on you gotta be kidding me I'm all left out today, dude. Brother. Someone go give me some camo. I was going to wear that shirt, and then I was like, I'll dress up and wear a little sweater. I was about to do the same. This is pretty crazy. If it's not news to anyone that's listening, we love camo. It's the best. Yeah. Very noticeable. Oh, Mike, you look nice. Sweater? Yeah, this is my Thanksgiving outfit. Straight out of Thanksgiving? Yeah. Well, I brought a second outfit, but I was like, I kind of want to wear the nice outfit again. So here I am wearing the same clothes two days in a row just to look nice. Kind of an oxymoron. You look nice. Is it? Yeah. It's just like you put your nice clothes on again, but they're dirty. Are they actually dirty, though? I don't know. If you're just wearing them inside all day, I'd say they're not dirty. That's kind of my thought, too. Little pumpkin pie on them. If I sit in my office all day, my clothes to me are not dirty. I mean, the t-shirt maybe, but the underwear. Especially pants. Yeah. Pants are good. Pants and a hoodie is good. At least three days. At least. I guess it depends what you're doing. I think you still got to wash it. Every single day. And that's fair. That's totally fair. You wear it straight in the washer. Really? And that's why Ken's hoodies, remember like his Milwaukee duck camo hoodie? Oh, it's getting some washes. How many times you fire this thing in the wash and you're like, all of them. Every time. Yeah. Every time you wear it. Like, any time you take it off, throw it in the hamper, and then straight in the washer. Not going to work twice. You know, but that's what big laundry has taught Ken. Exactly. He used to sell laundry appliances. Ken's a slave to the system. Just wear out your washer and dryer. I want a clean hoodie when I put it on. I don't want a slightly marginally dirty one. That's what he learned at the Hawaii Maytag. Yeah, when Ken went on that conference. Yeah, that conference. Thank you. Always wash. Always wash your clothes. Isn't this, aren't we selling the appliances? Yes, but you need to wash. And make sure whenever you have the chance to talk about it, make sure people know they need to wash after every wear. I guess it would. Keep them buying more washers and dryers. I just think it's gross. It's like. I think your T-shirt and your underwear and your socks are for sure. Well, that's the nice thing about your underwear is, like, they don't really get dirty because there's nothing that touches them on the outside. So, you're disagreeing, though? You think that you're going to rock your underwear two days in a row? Yeah, no. Three, four. I mean, they're not getting dirty. One way. Flip it. One way. And then inside out. And then flip it again. And you get four good wears out of it. You can do the same with condoms. No, I'm just kidding. Siege, you're right. That is the way to do it, I would say. What did you just say? No, just forget about it. Do you guys wash your clothes before? Like, if you buy a new sweatshirt, do you wash it and then wear it? I do because I'm a weird size, but sorry, Ken. I love straight out of the bag. I normally don't, but Alex normally does because she thinks that there's germs on them from when they were made. That's what Sydney says, too. Yeah. Maybe it's just a girl thing. I love the, like, yeah, that. Like, fresh department store, fresh merch. Not more the smell, but I love it. Smells good. Smells new. Yeah, if you buy from seaboycv.com, it might smell like burnt rubber quad a little bit. But that's because Ken's just running laps in the warehouse. Well, you're going to get that sometimes. We did it in the back area where there's all the clothing still, like, boxed up. Yeah, but you still did, like, seven laps back and forth. You were burning rubber? Have you watched a new vid? Yeah. You haven't, have you? I was just doing quad guy stuff. Oh, wow. I know that you haven't watched a new vid because you haven't said something about it. Oh, no. What did we do to me? Well, Ryan, we just didn't know that you're a full-blown rock star now. Rock star? It's a confusion. Yeah. Like, we didn't know that you started a singing career. Singing? Oh, no. Like, it was news to us, too. I actually have no idea what. Like, did you guys know that Ryan started? He started a singing career? I do kind of look like a little K-pop star. Yeah. Have you been getting these comments in your DMs? Mm-mm. Or on your pics or anything? Like, hey, could I get some singing lessons or anything like that? Just give her a little refresh, see if anything pops up. Refresh. Like, do you have any new covers coming out? Christmas album, for sure. Yeah, Ryan's doing a Christmas album. I love that. Man, I feel so fucking lame for not watching the video. It came out at 7 o'clock. I was with family. For the record, I haven't watched it yet, either, which I feel bad about. I have nothing. I didn't get home until late, just went straight to bed. What were you doing, Ken? Thanksgiving. Oh. Family Thanksgiving? I don't know if you're at Swanee's or something, or Sawast. No. Yeah, that is Thanksgiving. Yeah. His family, I don't know what they were doing, but he was at Sawast. He was at the bar. He was getting meatballs. How was everyone's Thanksgiving with their fams? I did it a little double time, so two times the food. What do you mean? Like, you went to yours, and then you went to Sid's? Yeah. I suppose you got to do that when you're married. Yeah, but they're like, oh, it's so awesome. You get to eat all this good food twice, which, of course, is, but also, kind of a burden. Because you only eat once a day. Yeah. So, like, that's a lot of food for me. I had to ration heavily. How about you guys? Your families are the interesting ones. Ours is like, yeah, it was good. You know, nice, cordial conversation. I don't think it was really too crazy with ours this year. I felt like it was pretty tame. I felt like it was less activity than normal. There's, like, four kids. Like, my one sibling has three kids, and the other one has one, but she's pregnant. So, like, once you. Once you guys have little gremlins running around, like, the whole dynamic changes. Like, it's like everything kind of just becomes about them. Them. And less about you and CJ. So annoying. So annoying. No, no, no, no. Yeah. Like, people's, like, attentions or priorities are, like, elsewhere. No kidding, yeah. So we're not just sitting around just, like, shooting the shit or, like, telling older stories or, yeah, like, which is pretty much what it used to be like. Like, we would sit down at the entire Thanksgiving table. We'd be telling just, like. Funny stories. stories that should not be told at a Thanksgiving family dinner. Yeah, I got scolded because I said smoking was cool. That's when I knew I had to watch what I was saying. Times have changed, yeah. Yeah, me and CJ were going on this whole thing about how, like, smoking cigarettes is cool, vaping's lame, and because my brother's father-in-law still rips darts, and me and CJ were giving him his flowers. Yeah, it's like, that's cool. At least he stands for something, you know? Like, I feel like vaping, like, it's just too practical, and, like, everyone does it, you know? It's too easy. It is. It's too easy. Like, if you smoke. Cigarettes are slightly inconvenient. They're more than slightly. It is, yeah. Like, you got to step outside, you're in the cold. Like, you're actually about something if you smoke cigarettes. You can do cigs inside. Well, generally, you can't. I am picturing, so you're, like, you're downtown, you're on the dance floor, there's people are passing around a vape that's been in 20 miles, but if you're like, hey, you want to go smoke a dart? It's just you and whoever wants to come with. You got to step outside. Outside in December. You smell like shit after. Yeah, your mouth tastes like crap. Like, everyone knows they're bad for you. Like, there's no debate. Your hand smells like shit after, too. Like, no one really does them anymore. Yeah, it's just like, at least you stand for something. Yeah, it actually got sparked because they were asking about you. If you would actually quit vaping. Did you quit vaping? I have, actually. So you have. Yeah, I couldn't give them a straight answer. I got a notification from my Apple Watch today. It says my resting heart rate's been lower for the last week. Wow. I believe that. I mean, I do, too. That's good. You're trending in the right direction. What's your resting heart rate? 52. Bro, Ken is so healthy. Mine is super low, too. I'm sure it is. And it was like 63 last week. Nice. Wow. 10%, or 10 in a week. Ryan, what's your resting heart rate? I bet yours is high. Yours is probably 63 on a good day. That's what mine is. I always just picture getting mine so low that I can, like, you know, go in, like, standby mode or something. When Mike's sleeping, like, he is literally out. It's at, like, 20. Like, he's like when you put your computer in a fucking power save mode. It's not. Well, Mike doesn't exert a lot of energy because he's so fucking slow. Yeah. Like, he just operates at a slower rate. Mine says daytime lowest average. Is that the right thing? Sure. Heart rate, 70. Yeah, classic. Classic. I don't think that's bad, though. That's pretty high. That's what I'm at right now. Oh. Currently. Yeah, you've been running around. In this high-stress environment. Anyways, Ken's super healthy. Yeah. An athlete, man. And only getting more healthy by the day. We're trying. Look at that. He's got a body armor, flash IV, on deck. Honestly, Ken, you're so fucking healthy. Maybe you don't even need to quit vaping. Yeah, get back on. I might just do Zins. I don't know. Why start that if you haven't already? That's like, maybe. It's probably, I've kind of replaced vaping with online gambling. And it's gotten a little destructive. You've got to be so down, Ken. You've got to be so down. Yeah, like 2,000 this week. Oh, Jesus. This week, 2,000. What were you down? Last week. Last week, and it was flat. That's pretty good. Well, next week, you could be up. I will not download or make an account for the online gambling, because I know it's a slippery slope. But in other points of my life, like at deer camp, I was just rolling dice, just trying to get that thrill. Lost a ton of money to my brother. I might have told that story. Well, then, when he's coming back up for Thanksgiving, I'm telling him, bring your money. Bring my money. I'm winning that shit back, right? So we're at dinner last night. after dinner and and i'm like all right let's start rolling he didn't bring it did bring it and we we coerced my mom to also hop in and put some skin in the game and my mom ended up like taking all my money no yeah how much money i think she won like 200 bucks off me but i brought only i brought 20s this time like because me and my brother were playing with hundreds oh yeah and i just i lost a bunch of money so i just brought 20s get a little bit more game out of it and uh you gotta lose a lot of times to lose 200 like i i don't know if i want any and she was just like cleaning up so yeah no i got my mom addicted to gambling so you know that's not good but spreading the good word yeah you know it's a real problem if next family event she's like let's run yeah come on yeah i mean it ended with her just walking away with a you know a bunch of money and she was like happy i see why this is kind of fun yeah this is great and i go mom should we go yeah should we go to monoman like the local like reservation casino your family was running around all drinking vitamin water and shit but running the casino like everybody else in there smoking darts and having vodka red bulls it'd be the one time they'd be wearing their covid masks so they're not all the fumes the secondhand smoke yeah i don't know if anyone in my family owns a covid mask but they'd bring them out then respirators they're wearing full-blown respirators like for painting honestly that's the other thing man smoking like it's impractical for everyone around you even but anyways you got to stand on it like everyone's hating on you like fuck this guy dude it smells like shit in here like all this but anyways speaking of gambling we got vegas coming up so you gotta save your money ben i know i heard a rumor you might be dipping out it's to be decided what it's in the air come on you got rich coming probably gavin i got a really cool dinner reservation for the first night do you need to hear any more yeah do you need to hear any more maybe if you're lucky we'll go to one of those places that have doors without door handles we run that house party back run that house party back can't run it back if you were never there yeah if i miss this one it's gonna be actually crazy i'm gonna be three behind on you guys i want to go on like a golf trip i think we gotta run a golf trip we can go to the wind golf course would you actually do that ken of course he was kidding me when you go but keep this in mind when you golf the wind they have like a caddy with you oh yeah because a caddy's gonna make the world of difference for you i'm like i would make a fool of myself in front of this caddy i don't think i could do it there not to have a caddy because yeah i don't know that it's also like 800 bucks oh my god that's that's why i asked would you actually go there because it's a lot of money like if you're a big golfer that's a crazy amount to pay to go play a round of golf but if you love golf makes a little bit more sense than someone like you who doesn't like golf spending that much money get a few more rounds under my belt i think it'd be kind of fun and maybe a year i could be so funny that you couldn't really put a price on it i think ken would go a hundred percent if you just look at all the golf outings that he's gone on it's always for special occasions that's a special occasion he doesn't really care to go for the love of the game but if there's a good group of people going and they're yeah they're drinking ken is out there and he's in a great mood there for the but if you're just going on a tuesday night after work he's like fuck this he plays four holes and he's especially a scramble you're just playing best ball it's way more fun doing it that way i think we gotta go man i don't think you can bail on this one i mean i agree but you might have to yeah yeah damn we got a package in the mail this week i love getting packages and then bringing them on the pod from our boy rick duff oh let's go sent us a signed vinyl and cds we even knew he was pressing vinyls i gotta get one of those yeah i think you're the only one with a mic you just did well i know that's we were gonna maybe hang it up yeah we probably should put this in the pod yeah but maybe he'll send mike another one so he can spin the vinyl i guess i could take the actual vinyl out and we could hang the artwork oh that's true you could actually play it and it obviously has ford ranger on it yeah it does yeah so this summer our boy rick duff came up rick had made a song called ford ranger and uh it's about our ford ranger my ford ranger wants to be like we yeah we found it here tv close six wheels and a little hat to wear i'm messing the lyrics up but track three on the side a very yeah you also sang it on like canada's got talent i think we had played it on the podcast yeah i had found it and popped it up on the podcast probably a year and a half ago at this point well rick saw that we were giving it love and we're stoked about it so we hit it off and we're and was like yo can i come out and film the music video with your guys's ford ranger and you obviously so we did that this summer it went live this fall and now rick duff's got a new album so rick's rick's our boy shout out to rick shout out to rick that was a fun day filming the music video it's kind of crazy how like vinyls are coming back it really is because they're they will never be practical i'll tell you that much yeah there's no way so does it sound as good off of this or is the sound design not i'm not supposedly it's better yeah because there's no there's no compression or anything because it's i will say that it sounds good it's amazing man it's weird that this came out before the other thing like it just seems crazy that you just scrub it and it makes the noise yeah i don't get it don't touch it don't rub around on it oh okay sorry i wasn't sure it didn't look like it was like a cd where it could get scratched like all those all those little grooves on the thing are like what actually makes the noise different yeah so when the needle scratches over the groove why do you like records so much mike yeah i think they do sound good i think it is fun like putting an album on and like listening to it all the way yeah like you're not changing songs when you go through the work of putting that thing right like you're just running the whole album it stemmed from over listening to podcasts i just got to the point where i like would go to spotify and be like i don't even know what to play so then i was playing like top hits and i just wasn't vibing with it so you have one of those in your car can you imagine i think my dad told a story back in the day he had some cool car and he was reaching over to change the cd or something like because he had like the you know like when you could put like six cds in it or something like that i think he crashed a car on the downer road like missed the ditch or something like that and rolled i do believe that yeah most of those six cd changers you're actually not supposed to operate while driving because you you have six you should be good yeah yeah maybe he didn't have that and he had just like maybe he just had the binder i don't know i i'll have to ask him on that we got to get him on here one day he's got to tell stories he's got a bunch of different stories did he roll one of the the cobra replica cars yeah he used to work for uh like they would build replica cobras and he says that they were the best because they were made in fargo then they got sold out to a big company not as good anymore but uh yeah he was driving down the downer road and i can't remember if it was during a photo shoot or after a photo shoot but he basically like came up on a corner it was going way too fast and they just are light with no power no traction control nothing like that slicks on the back yeah and it spun around and then it rolled down and it totaled totally that's got to be not the ideal car to crash or roll there's literally no roof there's like a little little roll bar right behind you and that's it so the the little roll bar did its job yes wow dude so what does boss have to say that i would oh my gosh i think he said because he was fairly he'd been working for the company like since it started so i think you know you get like one gimme big mistake yeah you know like if you work here you get like 10 whoa i don't know if we want them to know that though i think they already do know that yeah they see they've seen the repercussions of what happens i mean you know you had your gimme and you get a few a week yeah you get a few a week so uh i think i think he was okay but yeah the boss ended up selling the company later and then it oh not because of that no not because of that but like after that it kind of went downhill on me i mean not because of the crash after the boss okay and that's when randy got out of the car business yeah and that's when he started framing in other big news we got our our new gear brand dropping this week which we've been working on for what two years yeah we've been working on for a long time the longest we've ever worked on something without it being released and it's very very nice stuff i mean i was wearing one of our jackets in the mega quad video and yeah i mean i love that that's my favorite jacket i normally don't wear like a coat unless we're really in treacherous weather which then i would wear like a mono suit oh i love that jacket it's lightweight warm comfortable it looks good but uh yeah we got a bunch of good stuff jackets yeah we got how many jackets do we got we got three jackets sick jackets and we got three mono suits and then we got some gloves yeah obviously has a lot of the work gloves yeah this is just kind of the beginning like we're we're excited to launch this brand and we're coming into winter we always wear mono suits so why not louis vuitton we're going to be wearing a lot of these some life wide open gear mono suits to you guys yeah and they're nice quality i mean they're debatably better than than other brands i would say yeah i'm very proud of them too they look cool and uh they're durable we wouldn't obviously want to promote them or have you guys buy them if they weren't and they've been tested by the entire crew and we love them and they're a very affordable price point which is what yeah we tried to find like a good medium ground quality good but not too expensive yeah we're fired up we've been working on this gear brand for the last two years like cj said and i think uh we're going to just be continuing to add products to it it's called life wide open gear and it's fitting the life wide open brand and we're just continuing to add products to it so excited to see what it turns into over the next couple years you know as we hopefully get our foundation, and people start getting the product and hopefully loving it. But, yeah, we're fired up on it. So it drops this Thursday at 7 o'clock. Hoping to wear it snowmobiling soon. Let's go. Dude, I mean, yeah, it's going to be awesome. Which one's your guys' favorite monosuit? I like the duck camo. It's just classic. Love the red. Definitely the red. Yeah, I was probably going to say the red too. I think I like the black. Black's just clean, man. It's got that digital camo underneath. Looks cool. Yeah, all of it feels like Seaboy's branded, which is what we wanted. Obviously, it's our brand, so we want it to feel like us, and it does. We're not trying to make racing gear and crazy stuff. This is coming from us and what we do. And like I said, we wear monosuits, and the jackets that we wear when we film our videos, these are the ones that we want to reproduce for you guys. It doesn't even have to be riding gear with the monosuits. I would wear that ice fishing. I could really see the duck camo, the good old, boys loving that, and buying it, even if they rarely go riding. Just having that as their ice fishing rig, it's just sweet, man. I'm excited to see some people wearing it. We also realize that most people watching our videos, they're normal people, right? They're not the extremists by any means of like, all I do is ride mountains, or all I do is ride trails, so I need it to be like the crazy warm. Super thick. Most people are just like, yeah, I go out and ride on the weekends, and I'm like, I'm going to ride on the weekends, and whether I'm riding four-wheeler when there's this much snow, or snow in the ditches with my boys. That's the majority of the people that watch our videos, because that's who we are. That's what we do. We're not extremists by any means, so we wanted to make gear that represents those people. 100%. That's exactly what we're doing. We're getting our toes wet, or our feet wet, with the snow gear, and then this spring, we'll have moto gears, as well, and that's going to follow the same mentality of like, you're not like the crazy extremist racers. You're the guys riding dirt bikes on the weekend, or hopping on your bike after work, and just ripping around. So keep an eye out this Thursday. Yep. Yeah, this Thursday. SeaboysTV.com, or LifeWideOpenGear.com. Are we launching on its own website, or it's just on Seaboys? Just going to start on Seaboys for now. Love it. Speaking of musicians, I saw something the other day that sparked a memory that I haven't thought about in a long time. Do you guys remember when, when we met Sean Kingston? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was so weird. But did you guys see that he's in jail now? No. No. Tax evasion? Yes. That happens every now and then. Wire fraud. Wire fraud. Yeah. I think he was just kind of using his clout to benefit him of like getting people's trust, and then just not delivering on like the money end of a lot of deals. I think rappers do that a lot. Yeah. They have the money sent beforehand. They don't do the, they don't follow back up. They don't do the thing. Yeah. He seems a little. Exactly. Okay. So he got three and a half years in a federal prison. Holy shit. Oh, and his mother went to jail as well. Oh, I didn't even know about this. Defrauding luxury vendors of over $1 million in property, including bulletproof Escalade, high-end watches, and a large TV. Just one TV. Put that in there. One damn TV. What's Sean Kingston thinking he needs a bulletproof Escalade for? I mean. I could see a use for it in Miami. Is he really? Is he really that popping anymore? I guess he did. He did have some, some big hits. Like he seemed washed up. Like what was that? He was washed up when I met him. The story behind them is, is he came to a music festival. One of our boys was putting the music festival on and we were like, kind of like acting as like promoters for his music festival. It was crazy. Jake got up on stage and threw $10,000 out of in fake cash. One of the wildest things I think, like looking back at that was crazy. They did that. But yeah, we got to meet Sean Kingston who was like the headliner for this thing. But like he had like three layers of security that we had to get through just to meet him in like this room in a locker room, in a locker room of him. He's like, we finally get through all of his security and he just like daps us up. So take one picture and that was it. Yeah. The worst picture ever too. It's so grainy. We're like literally off a big Reno took it on his phone and they were just, it was just a garbage picture. It's funny because I had like been in that locker room. I'm playing C squad basketball, you know, like a lot of good memories. It was pretty sweet. You know, just knew I was never going to touch the court. The coach coming in, Ryan, we're going to have you sitting on the bench here for the second half. I actually had a no dribble rule. That's where I sat on the first half. I didn't know dribble rule and C squad basketball. When I caught the ball, I was allowed to pass it or to shoot it. They didn't even give you the option to dribble. No, I had a no dribble rule. I think there was maybe other kids, but it was, it was publicized. Just nobody's dribbling. How bad were you at dribbling? Like, how do they just say, all right, I wasn't even that bad at dribbling. I just think that like, I probably wanted to be better than I was. So I like would try to make a move and that never really worked. And so he was like, just do the play, just catch the ball or shoot it. So yeah, I told you, you couldn't dribble the ball. Yeah. Damn. It did get me in some pickles sometimes. Cause then they would like double team me and I couldn't do anything. I would just stand there, throw it away. So yeah, my JV C squad basketball stories wasn't exactly, a highlight in my athletic career. Who would have thought? So, uh, speaking about tax evasion, you guys see, uh, whistling. What do you, what do you think on that? If you listen to the Doug DeMuro podcast, like Doug's a huge fan of whistling. He kind of dives into exactly why it happened, why it should still be a law, why people are abusing it. I mean like the Montana registration thing. He's like people with supercars have just been like using it to register supercars and whatever in Montana. And they're making an example out of him. I'd assume. Yeah. So basically he got jammed up for tax evasion, but he, he actually paid his taxes. It was basically just on the car sales tax end of things. He had an LLC in Montana where you don't have to pay sales tax and then had the car owned by that LLC. So he could work around the sales tax and I guess they went after him, which a lot of, you know, supercar owners do that. But I, I definitely could see, like the gray area in where they're like, Oh, we're going to try and make an example out of them. Cause it is like the, a loophole, but it's a league. It's currently a legal loophole. And it's state by state. So that's what I found out too. Some States don't even, they don't care. It's not worth it. It sounds like Tennessee and probably other States have finally got enough cameras that are always scanning license plates that they can actually prove a vehicle has been in the state for 30 days, which normally I think either way he's online. Like, yeah, I think if you're going to be rich and play the system, you can't also be publicizing that you're playing the system. Like everyone knows that's obviously you see a Montana car. It's a known loophole. Yeah. The issue with it though, is like for Tennessee sake, I'm sure they had like a flood of people from say, California coming in with money moving in, moving in. There was quite a few like supercars around there with Montana plates. When Ryan and I were there. Oh yeah, there was, there was. And they're just like, all right, this is clearly becoming more and more of a thing. Cause more and more people are learning about this said loophole. How do we go after one guy and make the biggest impact? Cause he's going to, wow. Did it work for him? Yeah. Everybody, every headline is just like Montana LLC, whistling diesel tax evasion, $2 million bond, like all these things. And then everyone is probably just like, Hmm. Apparently there was like a typo in the $2 million bond. It wasn't actually 20, 20,000 or whatever, but either way, I think, uh, it got what they wanted the job done. Yeah. And I'm sure most people that were either on the fence about doing it are probably not going to do it now. And I'm imagining a lot of people that did do it are probably like, let's maybe just register that car in Tennessee. Yeah. Like I'm already spending 400 grand. What's, what's the void going to jail? And especially that they just came on and said, on his property took him away you know like no letter that said hey you got to fix this you know they were definitely trying to make a statement tennessee actually has the second highest combined sales tax in the country oh wow at 9.61 percent is their average combined rate what the state the statewide is seven um so with and that sucks dude i don't know why everyone likes tennessee so much 9.61 is heavy and that's coming from a minnesota resident does tennessee we're seven and a quarter so it's tennessee does not have state individual income tax okay so that that's where they're getting it where it's like they're taxing your sales tax is heavy but your income tax is nothing so i mean you you gotta play one yeah it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out i uh it is weird that they're really only going after like what 40 50 grand that's a lot of money but also like a lot of bigger bigger fish but you take down one big person and you're gonna get 50 other people that don't you know they don't have nearly the online presence but they're gonna pay the tax but they also pick the one guy who's never gonna fucking lay down and just take a fine but that might also be that's kind of what they wanted of okay how do we go after somebody who's clearly going to make this public they don't lose man you like when it's you versus you versus the state or the government or the federal whatever they always win i i if i was him i would honestly just pay the thing move on not do it again that's my two cents because like it's just gonna be a paint it's gonna be an uphill battle and i don't think you're gonna win i think you're gonna waste a lot of time and energy just pay the thing go back to making your videos register your cars and in tennessee and just move on that's my two cents i don't know what do you guys think fighting it dude you i just don't think it's gonna it's so tough because it's kind of in a win-win situation with it honestly like on the side of like say he fights it it's gonna be so publicized that's true and in the ultimately he doesn't have too much to lose like in the world that he's in like yeah more publicity the better and uh he's gonna get a ton of content out of fighting it but i'm assuming that the government crossed their t's and dotted their i's to make sure what they were doing was fully like their investigation everything was fully complete yeah fully vetted before they even touched his property you've got it okay yeah to my point i don't think he's gonna win it to your point you're right realistically it's not like he's going to prison for a few years or anything if he when he loses he'll just pay the fine and he's basically just adding some more money on top but he's gonna make a big splash and everyone's gonna hear about it and i'd imagine it's the original fee that he didn't pay plus interest plus a fine plus court fees and all that stuff no doubt it's still gonna be a shit ton of money lost and a bunch of a headache but like i don't know that's the crazy part about being a youtuber is you can kind of turn lemons into lemonade yeah exactly so promo it's definitely doing what they wanted though of like he's making it a big deal whereas if they were to go after a big dog that is like i don't want one the headache and i don't want the bad publicity pay it make it go away do whatever you have to do to not make this go like grand where he's just like i'm gonna fight this make it as big as possible everyone in the world's gonna know about this and tennessee's like great hopefully people know that we don't mess around exactly yeah uh whatever happened with that whole jet ski case that he was fighting like there's never really a conclusion he said they dropped the charges i don't know it's surprised there wasn't it's gonna be interesting though but i've always thought that from day one the montana llc thing you can't do that and be public about it like it's just one thing it's just like publicizing like tax evasion essentially yeah there's a there's a really rich guy around here that uh was doing that and he got in trouble too and had to like switch it all back and he just paid the you know whatever just i imagine most cases are like all right yep i'll pay it and then they had to pay the sales tax plus interest for the time period that the vehicle was in minnesota i mean who knows maybe they'll just nix the whole thing all together that'll probably take a while but like i don't know if you live in california and you like imported a car from china and like it wouldn't pass emissions even though it's like totally fine it's just like some collector car that would be a reason to register it in montana just so you can drive the thing you're not trying to no that doesn't work that way you wouldn't be able to get it past customs well whatever let's say it was a car that was made in the u.s. and it was a collector's car but it wouldn't pass emissions in the state like having a skyline that wouldn't pass california emissions correct and then you'd register it you're not doing it to save money on taxes you're doing it so you can drive the car well that's what jay leno's law but they shut that shit down it got made it all the way to the end and they shut it down at the end what's that uh it was that collector's cars that were driven below a certain mileage and were of a certain rarity to the pollution could be registered in california as like a collector car and they didn't have to pass smog and have different things that california is super hard about and it got all the way to whatever core i'll look it up here but i mean made it all the way to the end and then they shut it down jay leno's law it's kind of like your no dribble rule ryan's law that's probably what they talk about and like for still years to come the ryan rule half this squad over here ryan's law no dribbling no dribbling allowed leno's law refers to a proposed bill exempt classic cars 35 years or older from smog checks provided they have historical plates and are insured as a collector vehicle it passed california senate but it was killed by state lawmakers name california doing california anyway yeah it'll be interesting to see how it plays out though yeah no kidding it would be interesting if he if he loses if he'll stay in tennessee like i could see him being salty and just like moving to montana just to like like that's what i would do about sam like just like just move to montana and end up all right well i guess now i can do it but then it's a lot of work you got to pick up shop like a lot of work like we realistically think how much work it'd be to pick up like we just can't move i mean we could but it would be such a pain yeah he's got such a cool property out there like what you're gonna spend trying to find that montana in a good location is absurd it's true yeah he probably could make quite a bit of money though if he bought that thing back in like 2020 2021 i'm sure it's gone up quite a yeah so many people are moving and so many people are moving yeah you got lucky in that now there's this huge wave of people sick though i don't know if it is i think it's got good weather it's got good landscape i like tennessee like the smoky hills vibe i could agree with that yeah i think it's i think it's a good place i don't quite understand the hype have you explored more like other than just nashville uh me no i don't think so i don't know have we gone there and driven around someplace for a video so i always forget where we go i don't know i don't know where we go i feel like we've been there bristol bristol where's that we've been to the the east side of tennessee to the hill right yeah yeah i feel like we're driving around they had like really narrow roads if i remember they did have narrow roads that's right i don't know i think florida if i was gonna move anywhere like florida got the ocean like i see a draw there number one benefit cletus lives there we used to be like so hot on finding a place in florida and we just just kind of fizzled out of like yeah i don't know i mean a lot would go into it we'd have to essentially just build what we have here but there and it's taken us eight years to build what we have here like i think realistically we just need like a shop i just don't foresee us using it that much realistically nowadays like there's only realist like three months out of the year that you'd probably want to use it but you're not going to be there all three months and then we still got to pay to maintain it and you know keep up on everything so make it an airbnb once you have like a family like you're not going to be leaving two weeks at a time so realistically just i don't know and like we got buddies down there now like thanks to cletus like realistically if we need to like ship something have it sitting there for a week he would probably say yes and then we can still go about whatever we're doing yeah makes it a lot easier yeah it's nice having friends and more places too that's for sure we are getting to that time of the year though we're like filming is getting harder with the snow and the weather but i don't know i feel like we're making it work as always can you guys just feel it coming thin ice yeah i can't i'm i saw it iced over this morning like the smaller lakes the ponds and i was like i saw it dude my parents pawned i was leaving their house this morning and i was it was iced over the og spot where we used to go and i was just like fuck i want to go walk on it right now i know it's probably like i know it's like two inches thick it's some real thin ice and i was just like ah i want to go walk on it and jump on it and see how much it flexes i do too we really lucked out this year with uh i mean we had nice weather legitimately up until like monday of last week so basically beginning of december we had nice weather there was a couple cold days and it was the best we filmed and we filmed and we filmed and whenever we had something to film we go outside and we film it you know yeah as opposed to now like you couldn't and then now that snow rolled in and then the wind followed and it's just it is what it is but i did take it for granted being nice yeah it's full of winter it was nice so long into the year and i'm just like this is the best we are just rolling and that winter just hit me like a right hook to the face yeah we filmed the video like a week and a half ago snowmobiling on our moto track it's coming out this thursday like off-road snowmobiling and we were like all right we don't have any snow and uh yeah it's crazy how fast that changed and now it's we still barely have any snow it's snow just like a little bit and then just blew blew around and what's the verdict on those snowmobiles like they honestly handled it pretty well besides the one that big wrench didn't put any coolant in because obviously yeah no i think they're good like they're 100 fine dude i swear well race slides especially are just tough as nails but uh turns out you don't need snow honestly yeah they just had a couple extra like wheels on the skid on the bogey wheels and that was it i'm sure the hyfax the skid slides they weren't even that fucked no they weren't like they still had life in them dude i'm fired up for snowmobiling this winter though same me too i hope we get snow but even if we don't get snow we got to go find it just go i'm actually fired up to bang ditches yeah it's been two years the most minnesota thing ever so fun last year it is it is fun just hopping on the sleds on like a saturday and just cruising around get going to like some burger spots whatever i went once last year i think the only time i wrote a sled last year was at snowed in oh yeah in snow day yeah you're kind of a rider okay and after last video so i'd imagine you're probably gonna ride one to work every day probably not are you back into it now uh by by into it by into it your new nickname is gonna be boondocking ken probably not i think we gotta get ken back on a quad though he was back on a quad like his own you know we messed up by giving ryan a quad because he hasn't rode it yeah you haven't even rode the thing we should have done any more quad videos we filmed a quad video last week a real quad rider would be out running laps whether we're filming or not take it out to the track sometimes but not to ride yeah no you just like take it out there and look ripper device to go you know take it out there go take some pictures and then come back yeah yeah exactly no i think we need to get ken back on a quad like did you guys see these picks renegade 800 or a thousand now they make that 800 is the sweet spot yeah i agree perfect power to weight yep look at it literally any kid with a quad ever dude ken and i were out like every weekend i would have a whole facebook post about like ken and i ripping i know that's how we became friends right just like rip laps around the field it wasn't you're ripping jet skis it was four wheels and then snowmobiles yeah ken needs to get back on a riders on a jet ski too the most classic thing ever ken and ryan pull up on jet skis we had just met cj goes hey ryan can i ride your jet ski of course yeah hop on it bro take it ken's sitting there hey ken grant grant can i ride your jet ski oh i don't think so i think you're a little young that's what he said he said he thinks you're and that's the time you were the rest of ben's life you were like 10 at that point no i was not i was probably 15 years old you were way i was probably 15 years old i would have been probably yeah no you'd have been yeah not that you'd have been like 16 i was you'd have been plenty old yeah i was old enough to ride a jet ski kid a lot longer ago than that it was funny if you just hopped on it and then just ran into the dock i knew it that still reminds me i've told this before but when i thought you and ken were like the dynamic when i first met you guys and i was snowmobiling with you and then we like ran out of gas and you're like ken i'll just take your sled and i was like dang he just can hop on grant's at the time his brand new articat like m8 and just like take it and then you were kind of hesitant to let him take it i'm like ah they're probably really close yeah we've always been buddies ken yeah against ken's will what did you do that day like i don't know broke it what was the day that we met was it on the jet skis no yeah dude is that the first time we ever met yes pulled up to your guys's dock i remember it yes ken and i were just on the prowl looking for friends because we were i think we met up with matt and then you guys were there you're so crazy too because i used to think that you were just a legend ryan really he used to use the thing let's go back to my legendary days why was i a legend well i didn't know about this old no dribble that's also how jake explained you too because i met jake first and he's like he you came by in the tc past zorba's and he's like oh that's ryan iworks you gotta meet him his dad does construction and he has so many sick toys like two snowmobiles at the time yeah warwheeler 600 xrs and a snowmobile was pretty lit yeah and then ken pulled up in his subaru impresa and we were like this is a rally car we kind of did from day one just bullied ken into drifting against his will it was fun and then kind of got bored you said drift in the holly parking lot really yeah dude it's crazy to think though ken got his name because we were like dude you gotta drift this subaru impresa and he mobbed it around three corners and we were like he's the greatest drifter of all time he's just like ken block let's start calling him ken i don't in retrospect that was like probably some of the lamest drifts but in in at in the moment it was pretty cool like you probably went around three corners and we were like it was a lot of fun and then we were like oh my god this is a lot of fun and then we were like oh my god this dude is just like ken block i think it was around dave's shop yeah it wasn't even around corn it was just around like dave's buildings with all that like expensive stuff we could have hit but the sharp stuff to hit never did think about how different it would be if you were grant be weird yeah what do you think life would be like it'd be so weird really i don't think it'd be that different i'd be i'm super bummed that we wouldn't have the whole no can do branding i love no no grant i love yeah it wouldn't work it doesn't work as good doesn't work at all actually but i think you'd still be just as big of a savage i'd hope yeah but it's hard to say yeah do you feel like this is kind of like an alter ego of yours that has just became your new personality no it's just nice being able to like keep certain parts of the life separate so like you can the life you know you know where i meet people like where it's based on how they how they address me do people call you grant though yeah like anyone from the bank calls me grant okay outside of a like a legal setting anyone in a legal setting calls me by my my government name cj anyone uh anyone else calls me by the uh the youtube name do you still introduce yourself as cj no that was just like a total total black one time that was one time never live it down it was crazy dude i was standing right next to you i didn't know what to say who am i now like if you're cj who am i i was like uh i guess i'm grant gosh did that happen again where where were we he's just hey days you know it was hey days how hard do you have to block out to introduce yourself arctic cat as somebody else like some some big guy at arctic cat and they're like i've heard about you guys so you know introducing ken cj i don't know i must i think i was looking at you cj and i said cj and then i'm like okay uh ken i keep forgetting to run that back because think of all the people we meet as a group so easy for the last eight years or whatever now i just want to remember to do that just right before you're about to shake their hand wrong name ken are you guys excited for steve will do it to be back on youtube yeah it'll be interesting to see his return i you know i don't know is he actually gonna post when he says he's gonna post i was wondering the same thing it seems like he's just got so much money that i feel like just running a regular youtube schedule is gonna be way too much of an inconvenience for him like after you post a video why is he gonna like immediately start working on another one like it's it's a lot of work and i feel like he's just gonna be like yeah i'll do it and then i think it's gonna be sporadic i don't think it's gonna be so he's he's like his last so steve will do it i like him but i just don't think it's gonna be like his last he got banned from youtube and now he is he's back on he got the go-ahead from youtube yeah he had to start a new channel though so he doesn't have his old channel back and he's coming back uh with a christmas eve special and a christmas special whatever that means and then he said he's gonna be posting every week after that and being that we post every week yeah we know what goes into i just don't think he's gonna do it i don't think he's gonna post every week he's got way too much money to be he's gonna do it for six weeks and then it'll get a lot more infrequent unfortunate to start and not that he needs the money but to start in january he made great videos because of like what he was doing but i think like the landscape has changed like i agree when you would see him give somebody like a hundred thousand dollars it was crazy and now i mean he's gonna have to be giving people like a million dollars and how sustainable is that and also like his editor was so good so good he still was that same guy is he okay because i was gonna say like if uh he doesn't have that editor anymore like that i think no he still that was like a major major part of what made his videos good so that editor stuck with him huh yeah that's cool i'm sure he just kept paying him i'd like to think that his format will be different but i think it's gonna be the same i think it's gonna be the same i think that uh he's got a die-hard audience that's for sure that has not left him and i think he's gonna get a lot of views i just i don't know if he'll have as much reason to work as hard as he did back then and like stay as consistent i think he'll i you know post but i wonder why they let him back on well they re-enabled a bunch of people like kind of across the board yeah i don't know i'm glad they did yeah it's it's good for everyone like sneeko got put back on do you guys listen to him on the logan the impulsive yeah i did listen to that that was rough it was rough i couldn't watch it just to your point of like he's got a diehard audience following i scrolled on the comments yeah everybody's not one comment was like yeah regardless of how you thought the podcast went like who who you think maybe like was overstepping everyone's like common steve w yeah which i didn't think it was a steve w i hate to say i hate to say it too so if if you went from like top to newest comments then you could see more of like a little on the negative side but still it was like the vast majority even on the latest ones were always like positive and that's and that's where i'm going back to he just has a core diehard audience i will stand next to him literally through whatever he seems to do and say so i think he's gonna i think he's gonna be popping still like people love him and and he's done a lot of things that he has given a lot of reason to love him but yeah i think that was a rough pod dude he was on drugs or drunk or something he posted he was for sure drunk right for sure drunk but yeah he posted on his story it was like i was blacked out for that pod big mike told me that he would let me review it i was blacked out i would have never done that if i was blacked out there's a bad look for honestly kind of all parties involved yeah probably should have just not posted that one yeah then they got to the end they're like should we not post it and mike was like no dude we did it like it's not it's not that bad let's post it which i mean luckily we've i mean i guess we did the podcast with dave but that was different there wasn't any there wasn't any like beef there well that was straight up because dave said you can't you can't use that you can't use that you can't use that we're like well all right we don't know we don't know we don't know we don't have anything dave but yeah it'd be interesting to like get a guest on here like that and then have like have it not go well at all like kind of well remember tensions i like frankie lapenna but when frankie lapenna was on here he wanted to talk about a bunch of like really crazy conspiracy stories that i'd love to talk about off camera but i don't think that it's something you should have on youtube so like we need to keep like trying to steer him back to like all right let's talk about something that we can actually use here and he just kept going like he was fighting it and i'm sure that's what it felt like for them on impulsive except a hundred times when steve's basically saying the n-word like you know you just can't say that dude i don't think basically i think just yeah literally yeah it wasn't crazy what that's he just can't so that's what i i wonder is he gets reinstated on youtube and he says like he got knocked or kicked off because he used like links and he opened up a new channel after the other one got deleted i think that there was someone that just didn't like him well when you're when you're saying stuff like that you're gonna rub people the wrong way right and i think he got uh kicked off and i was like okay well now that he's reinstated i wonder if that's gonna change what he publicly says dude it seems after listening to this podcast i was like oh no no it's it has not changed one bit so then and he talks all the time about how depressed he was getting kicked off youtube and that's the only thing he wants and like he'd give all of his money away if he could just be a youtuber again dude yeah it seems like he's self-sabotaging does not seem like like you're biting the hand that feeds you essentially of like dude you kind of got to play by the rules a little bit and now he like everything he stands for is like i'm gonna just say what i want yes you can be a youtuber and like push the boundaries of that but you can't just jump the fence of like i'm gonna just say like the most outlandish shit dude and then be pissed if i get kicked off again uh evan was saying this one day he calls when someone's self-sabotaging himself as aaron hernandez syndrome or whatever like basically like you get something good going for yourself and then you self-sabotage i almost wonder i did i did think about this when i was watching it i was like okay why the why is this guy acting like this he's finally getting back on youtube and now he's acting worse than ever before and i was like i wonder if he's almost thinking he's not going to be able to live up to what he once was and just like acting crazy and maybe he'll get i don't know you know maybe he's not even thinking about it all i don't know if he's that self-aware no he's not that self-aware but it's almost like in the back of his mind he's just doing that maybe without even thinking about it but i thought that same thing i go dude you finally got what you've been complaining about for the last three years coming back to you and now you're doing this on like a huge podcast it's crazy it's crazy style but at the same time dude yes it's nuts to see that when i went to the comments i was like pro like it's pretty tough to stand by that but people were standing on it they love him and i don't know dude he was my friend i was like oh my god he's like oh my god he's like oh my god he's like oh my favorite youtuber back when he was posting 100 by far yeah it was unbelievable so entertaining it was unbelievable like he was so entertaining i still think he's super entertaining like watching his stories on instagram like he's nuts he did a really good job of staying relevant and i i mean i know that's not that hard when instagram and all that exists but like he was posting his videos on x he was trying and i tried watch some of them and and clearly he's finding out that youtube is like the best to post long form content but king yeah yeah he was posting on x and like people were still watching his stuff so i don't know we'll see yeah man see how it goes on christmas eve for steve i hope the best for him dude i watched an insane youtube video last night this red bull athlete hiked up mount everest with no oxygen and then skied down down i gotta watch that it's like a 35 minute video essentially the entire thing is him just skiing down so if that kind of puts in context of like how how long skiing down mount everest takes it's like a 35 minute video it's like a 35 minute video it's like a 35 minute like aren't you not supposed to drop that much in elevation like isn't yeah so like the death zone so like camp four to camp five is like a big change yeah i want to say maybe 2000 meters maybe an elevation change so you like get out of the death zone you can only be in the death zone for like 16 hours and he was in it for like 18 so he's like pushing it did he make it to the summit yeah like he's from the summit and he did that without oxygen yes that is insane which people have done but yeah i mean dude he's skiing down and he's stopping like every 30 seconds tops and like trying to breathe and can barely breathe i know about 30 it's 33 percent yeah yeah you've had it yeah but it's 33 percent of the oxygen that you get at sea level when you're that high that's so bananas eight almost nine thousand meters it's a crazy it's a crazy video dude i'm gonna watch that you guys gotta watch it so you can descend really fast like if you and then you're in water no he had to camp at camp two or something like that got it so he was able to go down some and then he had to stop it yeah because i was wondering like you know when you're diving like you can't just shoot up otherwise you get the bends or whatever it's called yep you know i saw that guy that we were talking about a while ago that's walking across the world yeah he's almost done or did he just finish i don't know i think he's still going he's like almost almost done i don't think he's that close i think he's still like six months away he was just on the news right yeah he was just on the news yeah let's get a little tracker on this guy so essentially this guy started walking 28 years ago yeah something like that from the uh southernmost point i believe in chile and he walked all the way up north america through canada alaska across the barren strait into russia and then all the way across russia asia he's walking across the whole world and he's done it all alone so like not the uk think how much the world has changed and he's just been walking every day like that's insane dude so he started 28 years ago let's say he goes back to where he started like how different it was from when he started okay it's amazing i wonder how he has money to do that i need much to do that you really don't but obviously you still need to eat you need to sleep somewhere so he would he would make it like as far as he could say on a visa you can be in the country for 90 days or whatever it is and then he would go back to like mexico he would work until he could like rebuild uh a little bit more time to then get back in the country so it wasn't straight it wasn't straight and that's why it's taken so long like i don't know how many days he's been walking but like there was little breaks here and there oh that makes sense dude you freaking you're doing all the walking you stop and he's in istanbul now and he stops he just picks a point like i assume on a street corner goes all right i'm done here and then you fly back and then can you imagine you have to get back on you like you go back to your life you get back on the plane you load up all your stuff and you walk back there and you stand back on that corner you're like here we go it's like logging back into gta yeah hopping back i don't know where am i i'm walking out of the hospital all right start this back up yeah maybe i mean he probably has a different outlook on it he's not dreading it he's probably looking forward to the next time he can walk but like pretty crazy mental game 100 it's not as cool that i thought that he was like sleeping intense and shit oh he is oh obviously but yeah i thought it was just the last 29 years literally just been on the road because i thought it said that he hadn't been home he hasn't he hasn't gone home he just goes to cannot go home work until he finishes the trip yeah cbs just did an article on him or a thing seven days ago man prepares to finish walk around the world that took 27 years i saw this ad on facebook geo swarm drones it's a drone that flies over your house to have a security camera from the air and it senses anything that moves on your property and then goes over to it films it from the air and it just stays flying all day yep it uh operates under the fa registration hassles but it like knows when it's gonna die and it comes down it lands charges and then it takes back up how long can it really fly for though i don't know i can't be up there for that long yeah i mean our drone lasts like 15 minutes and it looks like just a dji but i mean they use a lot less battery when they're hovering versus zooming around but still sleeping at night with your window opening i'd imagine they're making them as quiet as possible and they're like they're pushing technology for drone blades to not make sound when they cut through the air but can you imagine if like even half the houses in a neighborhood had them bro the whole neighborhood you wouldn't even be able to hear yourself think how much are they charging for one of those ken's gonna have three a bunch of them flying around i'm not sure i'll have to look it up uh you can secure it one person and one person only he's gonna just program it to recognize me and cj's face he's just gonna program it to follow you guys around and it's gonna have it's gonna have a little explosive charge in it it's coming down i look at it and i'm like oh my god it's gonna be like a little i look out my window in the morning ken is your drone over here like harry just trying to uh make make sure uh my place is secure they marked the uh neighbor's house on google i've been reporting it every day just for his sake that was a tough look i just i i know you guys think you're really fucking funny putting things everywhere and it's semi funny on ours but like you got you had to put the angry neighbor at this guy's house every day every day pulls into his house he's never gonna live it down carplay pops up just google maps angry neighbor yeah i want to try to park my car there hey what's your address he sends it just says angry neighbor yeah and like one of the reviews says he called me slurs what i drove by and he yelled to be fair the guy's name is brady is there really any kind of slurs do you call brady so yeah don't don't fucking do that i'm excited for your house to be done ken i'm excited the drywall is up it's it's really starting to take shape and we get out of cj's basement soon actually regardless i do have to get out of cj's basement by monday so are we having a housewarming party uh by monday where are you gonna live i'm moving them upstairs you're not out of the base yeah i was considering i got promoted i was considering moving back in my parents until i went home for thanksgiving i think i'm just gonna stay here no that's no promotion ken's ken's bedroom was huge down there cj's remodeling the basement now so i gotta make sense take everything the landlord's evicting you i didn't evict him at all just evicted from the just relocated him i tried actually having i figured you'd be able to stay in your room at least i thought they'd just like cut the carpet leave your room redo all the other shit and then do yours last but they want to do it all at once so which makes sense so yeah i feel a little bad about that but i mean ultimately you show up at like 10 p.m every night and then you leave by seven like you you nobody he goes straight to bed gets up early he's gone you even have like a glass of water no he doesn't have anything dude it's brush my teeth he literally just so quick like if you don't catch him on his way in like he's already in bed if i drink anything before i go to bed then i have to wake up go pee and then i can't fall back asleep man ken you are gonna change so much when you have your own house optimize like you're gonna be like oh i can eat a snack now i can watch tv yeah because he's not allowed to eat a snack or watch tv at my house i don't think he feels like comfortable doing that he can do it i just don't do you have he goes out to eat every meal no i'll leave the shop yeah ken you got to get one of those robot maids at your house to cook you dinner comes home hello honey i guess if you had a smart oven and the robot didn't actually have to like manually like turn the oven on if it could just use your oven we'll have it'll be like ai it'll just know as soon as the chicken's done to cut the power i just wouldn't trust a robot trying to manually turn my oven on get one of those like what are those like x ai whatever what are those things called ryan you showed it once i don't know the robot that we're talking whatever the robot thing is he tries to take something out and just starts itself on fire speaking of start stuff on fire cj i saw your story the other day of that flashlight that started that piece of paper on fire pretty sweet huh that's insane yeah that's a high power flashlight it is it is that it is where did you even get that it was like amazon that was the brightest flashlight i've ever seen it is it is one of the brightest flashlights and actually it's not even that much money are you trying to gatekeep this thing or what kind of putting it on your amazon it's only like 60 bucks dude it's insane or maybe it's i don't know it was like for how nice a flashlight is i cannot believe how cheap it was came a long way from mag lights you know like mag lights were like the flashlight to have and you stuff it with didn't start on fire they were probably 60 but they were not good no it's just nice dude because like you can literally shine that thing across the lake like you can scope it so it's like super tight and condensed or you can have it wide like i just use it for shining and seeing if there's any deer what's making what what's making noise out in the woods what's all that noise but else you hear that i got a pistol i'm like i go like cop mode i'm like i was just a squirrel but then i what is he doing now what is he doing now you can light up houses across the lake with that oh yeah it's insane i mean you can light a piece of paper on fire if you hold it right next to it isn't that cool i mean it's just it's unbelievable what lights it on fire the beams it's just so hot it's not actually it actually doesn't light a piece of paper i said that wrong it'll light a match on fire oh but still still yeah how crazy have uh lasers gotten to i was like i remember when ryan got that laser that you could like damn near hit the moon with yeah that was pretty lit and also laser is like now you can if you wanted like dj in your living room and you wanted to you could like build out the laser on your wall and then have it project like whatever you want it's crazy is that what you have at your house no i know you got to get a little at home dj set well when maybe when i learned a dj i wonder i feel like we should use some of our discretionary money around here just and just do things like that like have a little laser wall do we have discretionary money yeah instead of blowing money on one thing we can blow money on something else like think of all the money we've saved this month and not having to buy a new drone we did have to buy a new drone no that was last month no we bought the drone last month dalton crashed it and then i used our insurance to get a new one oh yeah they're gonna get rid of that insurance program that was they're gonna be losing so much money it was incredible yeah dalton destroyed it beyond repair and they just sent a new one it's great it's pretty awesome actually that's how it'd be like if if ken had drones hovering over his house those things would be getting crashed they would crash into each other knowing this guy's history and shoot them like clay pigeons that's what we'll do before we go to prank you ken's got his drones all right move in we only got 15 minutes till he's here you know what we need to get is one of those net shotguns yeah we net it down yeah net gun we need one of those we we could do see there's our discretionary spending for the month yeah that shotgun yeah but that we would actually use for something yeah we would a net gun we could actually use exactly that's our discretionary spending for the month well if that's the case then everything we buy around here is discretionary now you're starting to get the picture this is why ken became a youtuber look at this guy buy something weird wow ken was so strategical in the way he drew this all yeah ken we're still playing out ken's 10-year vision get nickname make video disappear yeah abstract products and it's black friday so i'm gonna go spend some money yeah what are you buying mike i don't know what should we get asking sydney you already spent all of our money that's what she's thinking did you just buy a bunch of shit last week i i think it's worth a stroll like the mall here's the tough thing you go into best buy you think that all all these great deals like best buy one of many stores that was a great place to be on black friday right it's not the same anymore all of that shit's online so why would you even go i went to the gym this morning drove by all the like retail stores in the area which are small town stores and i have never seen these stores busier like every single good like people were parked on the street they were so busy for the record how it's always been and so i'm glad to see that it's still it's not even small business saturday it was l and m fleet had like cars on the side of the highway trying to get in there everybody loves a good deal a good deal good deal people need to start fighting in stores again fleet is a good example of like they don't do they have an online store maybe maybe they do but their presence isn't crazy they're like that's like go to the store and buy the palette of monsters for 10 bucks and some tools aldi had a line when i went to the gym this morning wow that seems crazy it was a grocery store like how how much money are you going to get to be saving you're like i went grocery stores aren't running black friday deals though let's say they are though let's be pretty sweet you save yeah there's all the running black friday deals 40 bucks on your grocery i don't see why they wouldn't i feel like you can't be a business and not be running a black friday sale yeah you know what i wish had a black friday sale the stock market and bitcoin like how awesome would that be get a little bit of a discount it was uh black friday sales last week when everything dipped yeah it was on sale ryan you brought up a good point people need to start fighting in stores again yeah people just don't have this you know ferocious yeah deal hunting mentality anymore well they run it differently they've learned from their computer dude people used to like die on black friday like trying to go into walmart and there'd be like a stampede they get just trampled over trying to get like a fucking tv that's because walmart and these big retail stores wouldn't be open until midnight like people but now they're running these sales like oh black tuesday dude it was it was way more lit when they do it yeah at midnight on black friday right after thanksgiving but then it's like people started cheating the system they start doing it a little bit earlier because they're trying to beat the other person now it's like they're running black friday deals in fucking october it's just like pointless but dude i remember in high school me and my boys we didn't need anything but we just were like we got to get in on chaos so we just we just went to places and like stood around and then like fucking got in there and then we just like grabbed something like just something stupid like a fucking toaster no it used to be like early friday morning like so yeah you'd wake up if target were open at seven they would open at five for those doorbuster deals okay cool we'll go and then it was like midnight and we would go and just okay i guess we're not sleeping look at this shit look at that guy running all the gopro too oh oh oh shit oh shit get up get up you do not want to be at the bottom of the pile dude that's insane dude the lady with the car my gosh bro oh my gosh dude and it's like dude this is like watching the travis scott uh festival when people were in yeah that's right world i would go there and buy a microwave i don't even need a microwave but i'd come home with one also screw like what is they going on dude like it's one thing look at a fighting lady dude she was pink hair lady before pink hair i got it that guy got it he got it threw it to their friend at the cash someone else threw it back they don't care dude they're fighting over these tvs dude like how like this shit was fun they're fighting over vacuums this is insane yeah i'm gonna lie it's insane like that is insane dude you're gonna save how much screw being a worker during this time yeah for real it's one thing to just have to check a bunch of people out and get a bunch of people going that's one thing but another thing to have to like be a security guard when you're crying you didn't sign up for this i wrote fighting over things we missed out on some opportunity guys we should have been filming this shit but it's not like this anymore they've figured out how to set it up so there's just too many there's you just buy stuff online there's half as many people that are actually going they have like ticket items too like so when you're standing in line it's like okay you're we have a hundred of these tvs who's in line for the tv i am here's your ticket here's this that so then it's like they prevent that i've even seen that like online you know if you are you get this insane deal on a tv but there's only a hundred deals to be had and who knows that sometimes could be a lie sometimes not they're just running black friday Maybe an exaggeration but like cj said in october like they're running black friday deals from last week on amazon amazon started november 20th which was eight days ago so then here i open up amazon today thinking that they're at least gonna have like the best deals today they're all the same they're just all the same maybe they're a little better but all the stuff i looked at same price all right here we go what do we got here so the thing about this though two tvs the thing about this is you're capitalizing on panic buyers so people go in they do not need a tv but they see all these tvs flying off the shelves and they're like you know what i do need a tv oh look at this guy he snuck on the escalator to grab him yeah you're right ben they're just like all right i guess i just got to get it dude panic buying is a real thing dude they're just fucking fighting over it look like that guy grabbed dude the elderly are just a samsung bro i feel like tvs used to be like such a premium item oh no i mean sean kingston was willing to go to jail over it i mean like like but especially like back in the day remember like that really big tv that i broke at grandpa's with the pool cue yes yeah it's like a tv like that was just like such a luxury item like you know what i'm saying like you have one of those you're big balling i remember it's like when we got a big screen tv it was like getting a new car like yeah it's like you spent you spent you were researching you're doing all this stuff now it's like tvs are so cheap and so easy to just like buy like you don't have to like you don't think about moving that thing dude like it's just it's unbelievable it used to take three people to get the tv downstairs much more of a man they're almost they're just a disposable product you know if like if you were in a pickle and you're like oh my tv broke does anyone have a tv i could like have or like buy and someone's gonna be like yeah i got one i got one in like a room i don't use my mom has a famous black friday shopping line i used to hear her say her and all her aunts when they returned from shopping we saved more than we spent and that was their rationale as to spending probably thou i mean you know they were grabbing christmas gifts for everybody but it was you know collectively as a crew i'm sure they spent thousands of dollars but we saved more than we spent dude if you're saving more than you spent you did a really good job also if you're only buying it because it's on sale no you shouldn't be buying it in the first place they were they were buying stuff they needed he's kind of trying to get punched in the face by mike well no i completely agree if that's the only reason you're something is because it's on sale i think to your point like the panic buying is totally a thing but like if i was going and i was getting through trying to grab a tv it's because like i i waited for black friday to buy a tv maybe not now because i have you know a little more money to work with but like before if i was like waiting outside of best buy because i wanted the gopro that i knew would be on sale for black friday yeah i can't argue with that kind of what i was getting at i might we might go out shopping today and i just want there to be like actually good deals i don't want there to just be like a waste of my time this is so crazy dude i tried firing up my xbox yeah dude can't figure it out that thing's just giving me a hard time honestly it's like everything about gaming just doesn't work for me ben's like i'm just bad at i'm bad bad at even turning the xbox on i'm trying to think did you get into a game last night no oh it straight up wouldn't let me sign in it was crazy it's just got the red ring and just cj was even there watching it was it was crazy oh if he could if your xbox is broken yeah no it's just it just had the bad whiff uh but james your your brother-in-law had a great idea since you're so bad at playing xbox he thinks you should twitch stream it and i was like that's actually a genius idea i love that idea because you are so bad at xbox that would be the draw like people be like i can't believe how bad he is like they'd have to keep watching like there's no way he's actually this bad they'd be like what is this guy blind like is there a blind man with the controller you'd be doing some shit then you'd look down like okay a's right there like it would be insane to watch i don't know i think you should do it i think you should do it twitch stream it i mean you know eventually i'm sure you start to get good so it'd be a short run yeah it'd be a short run but like you'd be that guy you could be the top streamer for probably a week or two until i got good enough to not be getting murked by eight-year-olds every second yeah no i do agree i do agree it's just not my uh it's not my thing not my thing apparently i don't even know how to i don't even know how to turn it on good for you bud you can go read a book or something you know i don't know how to read either you're right that's my bad i forgot yeah we'll go listen to a book listen to a book we'll get you in some vr goggles you know how to use your hands yeah i mean i would like to think but it's still it's still kind of leaning on like the uh video game walk into ben's house ben's in vr's what's up guys you use the front door yeah i can see you being good at vr well good stuff fellas thanks for being here thank you guys for watching we got a couple more podcasts we're going strong through the end of the year so yeah we got the uh yukon denali and the 2500 denali ultimate truck giveaway going right now so head on over we have so much sick stuff on the website like for real probably the most sick stuff we've ever had so just go check it out and sebastivus.com baby sebastivus.com grab something or uh just subscribe to the channel and i'll see you in the 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