Carrick vs Bruno, Kane For The Ballon D’Or & Who Are the Champions League Favourites?

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Mike, it's been on the bonkers week full of goals in the Champions League. We've seen 74 over the last two days. Usually we'd start with English clubs, but I think we saw probably the two best teams in World Football on Tuesday. So we'll start there, but firstly, how was your couple of days at CVS? It's probably a couple of days because I'm tired. I feel like I need to rest for two days work on the track. I think you guys are working with two hard. CVS are working with two hard. The beam are working with two hard and the sky are working with two hard. I need to rest. Mike, can I set at this point you just sit down and you talk? Yeah, but I don't just talk, do I? Some of the stuff I do on CVS is there. Exactly. That's what I was looking for. I'm a performer here. I lose my voice from time to time because I shout and I go up and down and round and round. You know, I need to be more measured like you guys, you know? You can speak. You're so articulate, but you're so calm at the same time. Maybe when you're making a valid point, you just always nice and calm. Well, let me give you one piece of advice, Mike. Yes. Don't shout. If big mates don't shout, I'm not going to say that. Well, I don't know. I think you can shout into yourself down to shout if it's your voice you're already about. You know, as you get into your older years. But you'll be fine. But one thing, there was some good football to enjoy. Peer Street in Barcelona, I mean, they're quite tasty on me. Yeah, but there was no noodle vendors. Yeah, there were quite a few players missing. Damn, belly goes off injured. It felt like we had the big buildup to it. But the game was still amazing. We didn't have all the star players. So after the game, you think what did we learn? Rodry didn't start. And you think we had a whole analysis piece about Rodry. Before and after, you think he's got a start, don't you? And then it doesn't start. You just you throw that out the window and it's it's almost like it was a warm up game to see where everyone's out a little bit. That happens quite frequently, doesn't it? When you you plan a buildup to match. You see, the only part of the broadcast really that you can properly plan, isn't it? They build up to the game. So I don't how long do you do a CVS with pride to kick off? They are about an hour. Which I think is stretching it from my experience. But you plan and the with you talk with a production, you all decide a analysis piece that you want to make in the game. So say, for example, right, we'll do something on Rodry. And you spend, I don't know, quite a long time putting together the different pieces. And then you'll your practice voicing it, trying to get your point over. And then the team sheets come in just as you go on air. And Rodry's not on it. And then there's a decision to make. Do we still do the piece? Because it's really good. Or do we drop it? Because actually it's no longer relevant. So what do we do? We dropped it. So Karate was doing something and I was coming off the back of it. But I still did PS to use midfield. Because the goal, the first goal, do it is goal against Man City was just incredible. Zaya Emre played. We've obviously the team here. Fabian Marie's. And the movement. You don't only watch teams now guys. And we always talk about structure, don't we? And we always talk about style of play. PSG, I was structured, but allowed to do whatever they want. As long as they run hard and get back into shape, they keep me almost plays as a number 10. He's the best right back I've seen for a while. I know him and Trent at one point. When Trent was at Liverpool, it looked like it was out of them too. But Akimi, he took his games to the next level. Even when I'm going back to the lights of Karl Walker, Karl Walker was excellent defensively. And he was, it wasn't as attacking at Man City as he was at Spurs. But Akimi can do absolutely everything. I don't think I've seen a modern day full, but like him, can I suggest one? Oh, you're going to suggest one, go on. Danny Alvers. Yes, I'm okay. Couldn't defend, couldn't defend like him. No, he could defend. Well, he didn't really need to defend because he always got really tired. They always had the ball. Danny Alvers, yes, I'll give you that one. But you would say Danny Alvers is more a forward thinking, full back wouldn't you? Well, I think you'd say the same about Akimi. Yeah, but I think Akimi can do that. That's the thing. Akimi can defend also. He rarely gets done. If he gets skinned, you're like, oh, Akimi on Mendes. Oh, good question. No, no Mendes has kept him. Let me the dream quiet a lot, hasn't he? Even though he'd played the day, I think all round, I would have to go with Akimi. Would you agree with that? Between those two. Yes, probably just, but not between it. I mean, talk about get too grateful, backs in one team. I mean, that is a draw, isn't it? They really are. It's not very special. You mentioned Lamy in your mouth there. I thought again, I think I might have been the first half mark than the worst I've seen in play. I mean, I just suddenly thought there's a human being in there. Yeah, but he's only young, isn't it? When he gave away the ball for the goal, I think, you know, there's a big stage. Everyone's talking about this game. Lamy in the dream, he's gone into hiding. But I said it a second half, he's going to turn up on what did you do? Turned up. Turned up. I'm real shame for Claudette Scalia, wasn't it? I mean, I was gutted on that. I love watching him play. He's obviously heartbroken by it. Terrible injury, probably after the whole season. So that's a big mess for PSG. Denver is well, but that police hamstring. So few blows for them, I'm sure, and Denver will be back for the knockout stages, but I felt for Claudette Scalia. Yeah, I think last season he was the best winner in the European football. I think he's so underrated. This season is sort of been a little bit up and down. He's not played all the games that I would like to have played, but he started the game very well. But then, yeah, that injury, it's a bad one, which changes their team massively. Another brought in new players this season. I can use you to bot. He's coming to the team, mainly on the right. He's more number 10, though, but he's been playing at the right times. He's added something different, but losing Claudette Scalia, it doesn't make him as dynamic as it was last season. I mean, they're still very strong in their field with, you know, the team, you're still obviously very parry. You've got, on the other side, Barcelona's midfield, he mixed it around, as you say, left for Audrey out. So which of the two midfields do you think, if you had to pick one of them? I know what you're going to say. You're going to say Barcelona, of course. That's why I'm asking you, you're not biased. It's tough, because you've got Rotary Petry and Olmo. Lopez can get in there as well. Vittinia, Ruiz, Nevers, and you, obviously, would Xi Emre as well. No, I think the equal. Yeah, I think going into Barcelona has made it equal. I always would have said PhD with John Nevers, Vittinia, Xi Emre, and Ruiz. But now, Rodriguez in there is changed everything. So I'd say the equal. seen any improvement in terms of the vulnerability of bosser to the counter attack? No, no, I was going to ask you that because I thought the same in the Spanish league this year, they've just battered everybody. I mean, they still scored two goals against PSG, but conceded four big tests this weekend as well with the classic curve. So that will give you a bit of a sign as to whether they've stopped that. But at the same time, if they don't play that way, will that diminish their attacking superiority? I don't think it will, no, because if you look at the bosser and I've got Gordon can take people on, even from a little bit deeper, let me in the dream, you know what he can do. Omo can get the ball wherever and run wherever he wants and still create something. So no, I don't believe it changes. The only thing that changed is, is Rodry. If you look at the games and you watch the league are more than me, when they have that high line, Rodry's ready to drop and get into a beautiful clip, which was going to show before the before the game where they go up and then Rodry fills in. So I think they can still play that way because Rodry's very organized, but if Rodry don't play, I wouldn't play that high line. And they'll keep the ball a lot better when Rodry's on because it keeps it safe, keeps it ticking, dominates the game with his passing, his IQ, spatial awareness. So when Rodry plays a different team, but if it doesn't play, I suspect he'll play in a classic home icon. And that's probably why he got a bit of the rest. I know, but what's the point? This is what annoys a bunch up as a league phase. We build it up big game. I mean, what a big games earlier, because normally in the old format, it was okay, you win a couple of games, win free games, then you rotate. We want to see the best players now in a league phase and because of domestic leagues, everyone's rested, everyone. So have we learned anything different? I don't think we have as both because it's the classical coming up. That's unusual. And in reality, both these two teams are going to cruise through. They do give themselves a bit of a, I suppose danger of not making that top eight, which will give them an extra two fixtures. PSG, I don't think that's a big issue for them, if they have to play two extra games, because he really plays his first team in league anyway. Although now, obviously, we're having a few injuries. That might be a different scenario. I'll have to probably play a more consistent team. But yeah, I think at this stage, given the nature of the group, and we know the little go through, but I'd still find it more entertaining than it used to be. There is that thing that it's not, there's no, the jeopardy is not super high for the big clubs, is it? No, I would agree with that. But who are your favourites? I want to ask you guys for the Champions League, just up till now. I know PSG always starts low and then the come, but after what they did to Man City, and after what they did to Barcelona. I think those two teams are my favourites. I think PSG, it's tough to do it three years on the bounce. You get one bad day and it's all over. I think Barcelona with Rodry, with Rodry, I'd specify that, or we'll have a little bit more cleverness about them. There'll be a bit more camp with his experience and know how they are my probably them and PSG, tough to call between them. Obviously, I think by Munich and Arsenal, probably as they showed on a similar sort of level and probably the next two favourites behind them. But I still, if you said to me, now you've got to name a winner, your life depends on it. If your life depended on it, though, I think probably might shift to PSG in Louisville. Exactly. But if you asked me what I see with my eyes, I would say full strength Barcelona, because you've got Luminiumal, Bitmormature, Actually Year Down the Road, you've got all sorts of attacking options. The midfield is incredibly strong, could Barcy's getting a little bit more experienced and he's a great anyway. So I would probably just say Barça. Yeah. Now that PSG had lost Kravish Scalia, I would say Barça, if Kravish Scalia was fit, I would say PSG, that's how much I think, yeah, I think that's all important, he used to PSG in the way they want to play. Let's turn the other game that was, I thought was really entertaining was, it wasn't quite of the technical level probably most of it, as PSG and Barça, but Arsenal and Bayern Munich. And let's start with Harry Kane. I mean, his performance yesterday, his penalty was great, obviously, we know he can knock a penalty, but I mean, he played a slightly deeper role. So I've already played up front and he was playing as a set, he was playing everywhere. I mean, like the highlight of the game for me was when he took a quick goal kick. But if I guess so, who's telling him we can do this? Because it's unbelievable, you know, in the tactics, when you go, when you do, you're before the game, you do tactics or whatever, I don't know, it was like in your days, I don't know if it was just like, go out there and score a goal or whatever. But what was that? It was proper analysis. You know, you know, proper video room, like that, proper video room, proper, proper stuff, black and white videos. Where in his mind? Did he think, you know what, they're going to leave free players up by a minute. I'm going to take the goal key. Sean, he should be one of the players who are left up to have the vision to do that. He's played the best for all of his, obviously, but it was it was a very quick thought to think because he suddenly spotted it, put it, it was down and he just ran back and hit it and it was actually an exquisite pass as well from the goal kick. And then the ball through obviously everyone's raving about the past for their goal. I mean, it was a beautiful ball through perfectly weighted. And that all around game that he's got, I got a feeling he'll win the ball and all. It's favourite. Now, by this stage of big favourite generally means that they've probably been given the nod. They usually do some video piece, don't they? So I don't want to take the still the limelight or the thunder of the ball and door announcement. But I do know, have you got some inside information? I promise you, I've got no inside information. And if I did, I wouldn't share it, but I would tell you if I did. Okay. But I wouldn't tell you. But I haven't. And it was the last Englishman to win it. Mike Lane. Hey. What year was it? What year was 1997? Oh, hang on a minute now. Eight. Eight. We can hear you in the back, we can hear you. Shut up. We don't want you to hear it. Come on. I was going to say that, but it wasn't, yeah, not yet. It was when he won the young player. I think what year did the ball and door become actually the world? Oh, that is a good question. World rather than Europe. Because when I played, Michael, the ball and door was actually for, it wasn't called the band, it's called the European Football of the Year, and there was a thing called the World Player of the Year, which I was robbed of, the European Football of the Year in '86. But I wouldn't have been, if there hadn't been a ball and door, then I wouldn't have won it because Maradona was around it. He won the World Player of the Year, that year. So I think Michael was 2001. Ronaldo won it, obviously, in 2002, after his remarkable World Cup. At that stage, there were a couple of competitions going around. You've got the European Football of the Year, and you've got the World Player of the Year, and then it almost in 2007. So then it really became the proper ball and door. So in effect, he could say that if, if, and I really hope he does, I think he serves it. If Harry Kane wins it on Monday night, I would say it would be the first English player to win it. Can I ask you though, why is the ball and door so special? Because knowledge respects, it's just journalists voting, isn't it? Oh, it started that way. I don't know why it's, I mean, certainly wasn't in my day, right? Even though I was gutted not to win it, and I thought I should have won it genuinely in '86, and it was European Football of the Year. But as we know, that's been merged. So it's been a big deal in places like Spain, particularly, Real Madrid. They kind of thought it was something special. And then it's become this big event. We talk about it for weeks and weeks and weeks. And obviously it's a team sport. So it is a little bit odd, frankly. But maybe it was also enhanced by that kind of rivalry between Messi and Cristiano. So maybe that's something to do with it. But it's odd, because as you say, it's just a bunch of journalists decided, you know, they think it's the best player in the world. But if you've got a better relationship with a journalist, say it's like mech on it. So this year, it could be anyone, it could be a journalist on it. There are a lot this time. But it depends. Have you got a PR machine behind you? Well, they all do that now, don't they? I mean, you exactly. The main amount of coming out and saying he thinks he should win it. I'm killing him back. They said he thinks he should win it. Harry Kane hasn't said he thinks he should win it. But he's doing it all over again. I used to want to do this in the last month. Finances in the entire career. And obviously all of them are talking about the ball and also, I think you have to do a little bit of that now. It's like the Oscars, isn't it? You'll get people who are deciding the Oscar vote and they'll have little kind of lobbying groups. And the actors will go along to meet. And he's like, I went to one. And it was like, all that happens, does it? So it was a small film, it was an international film. And the director was there and people talking. And there's two or three people there, apparently, who have some kind of, you know, voting intentions and the actual awards. So it's become a little bit like that. So, but I don't mind it. I mean, it promotes football. It promotes the good bit of football, the entertainer, brilliant players. And if you have to do that, you have to do that. But it has been quite amusing watching them, particularly Harry, a period on. I mean, it was probably the best time we should have gone out there to Germany, seeing him and get him in the pod. But if you're listening, Harry, we'd love a chat. Once you've got that, battle on door. I'll get Harry up. Don't you worry. I'll get Harry up. If he wins it, I'll get him up. He will win it, he won it. Final before, before I let you go, Mike and start talking to Alan. I don't want anyone to think that Alan and Mike are going to be no longer speaking, because the last two of which have done it this way, it's just he can say the real reason. Because essentially, me and you have to work around Alan's diary. (laughing) - He's got an event, you've got an event, and you're obviously working less than that. He said, I don't know what that means, but a line on City, because. - Philip Ford is back, Patrick. - I'm so pleased to see that, because it's one of the slight mysteries of the last couple of years is that, you know, how good he was, he won football in the year, didn't he, he was magnificent that season. And then he's been very patchy since. He said, didn't he, the season before that he had a few off-field without knowing what it was. So I'd love to see him back, because there is a wonderful footballer in there. - Yeah, I think the competition was high though, wasn't it? If he was at any of a club, he'd be starting, we can we care. When you've got Bernardo Silver, obviously if you've left, Rodry, even at times when Fordham was trying to play a little bit deeper, but now he's got Cherokee as well, but I think he'd met by his standards. They certainly dropped, especially after he won the play of the year. - That Cherokee goal was tasty. - Oh my, it was ridiculous, wasn't it? So it feels as though every time the team now has to perform, but we all know Phil Fordham, he's always gonna get back to his best. He just needs to be consistent again now, and hopefully, under the new manager, he just get that game time, because wherever he brings in Boide, obviously, Enzo and Anderson look like the midfield. Cherokee's the one to come on, if you need to open up a game, it's where does Philip play. Look, as though he's playing more of the right the other day at times, so hopefully he can stay playing well because we all are gonna use it. - I mean, if you just read out some of the players, I mean, the decisions he has to make as well, midfield alone, Boide, Anderson, Enzo, Cherokee, Foden, and then you add to that, the wide players, and Jai, Semenio, Foden again, you could put in there, possibly Docku, even though Riley's a midfield player, really. I mean, I mean, really, oh, Riley. - He's so talented. - Yeah, I mean, I've got so much to choose from. They really have, but. - Can we give a quick shout out to Samba? - Samba, Chris Samba, Samba, he playing up front. I believe he's only 17 or 18, I believe, and he had a really good game. Big, big strong lads led the line really well, but it's nice to see young players giving opportunity as well. Yes, it wasn't the best opposition, but he did really well in the game. - No, it doesn't matter. Do you got to start somewhere? As long as you start well, because I can. - Okay, Micah, I'll be back shortly with Alan Shira, because you can fit us in at that point. - But thank you, Micah, and safe travels. - Is this what I'm going to do? Isn't this all right? Because he's got 260 in the Premier League. He's not what we're doing now. He just does what he wants. - I love him. - You're a boss. - You're a bad player. You've got a golden boot. - What's he got? - He's got a minute, Micah here. - You're now telling me I'm the better player. Every fucking time you're asked to choose between me and Alan. And I hasten to earn when Alan Shira is in on the conversation. Now he's in because he's not here. I was the better player, right? - No, no, no, no, no. My argument was, if he was listed, that I didn't see much of your videos. - But there weren't many, really. - Micah, if your day, I see the England stuff, and I see the gold record, and I see the golden boot, I don't talk to my dad, and family always just talk about you. However, as I always say, I see more of Alan Shira. So I have to say Alan. - Well, to be honest, on the podcast, you're seeing more of me. (laughing) But I'll be seeing Alan Shira after the break. Cheers, Micah. - This episode is brought to you by Guinness. Some things are just part and parcel of match day, and with the weather getting colder, and cozy season kicking in. For a lot of us, it's the pub, particularly you, Alan. - Hey, you can't beat the little good pint, can you? - Yes. - Oh, yes. - That sound. 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We'll come to that in a moment because I think probably the big story really was the performance of Manchester United or the lack of a performance. Should I say, I know we both watched that game on television and all credit to Komu, all credit to Seth Fabricaz, but as for United, well, it was wonderful. - It was wonderful, absolutely. It was as bad as it could be. Clearly pressure is mounting. When you hear the captain and Bruno saying what he said after the game, Bruno Fernandez, and then when you hear the manager Michael Carrick saying, what he said after the game in terms of, doesn't matter how you play, you've still got to turn up and run around. And I think that was pretty damning on his players part and I think it was an interesting response to the question he was asked about his captain saying what he said. So in the space of a week, you've had Martin as saying what he said, saying about the recruitment and how bad it was. And then you've had the captain a week later saying, it was a manager's tactics. He got it wrong. He got us to do what we did. Told us not to press or whatever. I've got the exact words here and it's a decision from the staff to not press, man to man, and sometimes leave space behind and try to get the ball. That is on the manager and the staff, not me. I know he can be get a bit passionate sometimes, Bruno. We've seen it before, haven't we? So he was throwing his arms around quite a lot early on. And we've seen that in the past, but I thought that perhaps we'd seen that side of him and he was captain and I thought perhaps, you know, he's not going to do that again. I mean, I, again, a little bit like Martin as this thing. I think whilst he might have a point, I don't think it's the right thing to do to voice it publicly. Should stay in the dressing room. Do you know what? As much as I think, man, you know, it is a mess. And I'm not the first person to say that I won't be the last. And again, again, whatever happens at the top of the club always finds its way down onto the pitch. And that's what's been happening for a long time, it might not have been now, but and it's a big book. When you're a player, it might not be when Bruno comes out or when Martin Edge comes out to someone else's fault, isn't it? Do something about it yourself, Lads. When the manager's accused you of lack of running, lack of effort, all of those things, and that's there for everyone to see, I would say have a look at yourself as Lads before you come and criticise others. Yeah, I wouldn't disagree with that at all, and I don't think it does anyone any favour. No, not at all. And obviously, carrot cares about the club, you know, all managers and coaches can make mistakes and possibly did on this occasion, it's only a few weeks into the season and it's a completely different picture than it was towards the end of last season when it seemed to have got things going a little bit, and I think you're right, they're ultimately the players are saying these things, because the club is, the club's been in turmoil for quite a while. Their performances have been nowhere near those club of the Statue of Montess United should have. But just look at the list of, you can blame the coaches all you like. You can look at the list of coaches, they've tried some of the biggest names in the game, and they've tried some of the emerging coaches that we've had in the game, and they've tried old players that they've had at the club and none of them, all of them have got that done okay for a few weeks, and then it's fine. Ralph Ragnac, for example, talked about, didn't he, said the club can't remember his exact words, but he said the club was absolutely in need of a complete work over. Open heart surgery, sir. Open heart surgery, that's correct, Alan, it's exactly what he said. Yeah. And you have to say, at the time he thought, oh, Blimey, that's quite a strong statement for someone involved in the club, but he was absolutely right, I thought, you know, 10 hog, I remember talking about the fact that he was at Iaxe where he had data and this, and you know, whatever you think about 10 hog, then he goes to you know, it's not dated driven, and I wanted them to bring that in, and they didn't. So I mean, it's been a mess for quite a long time, and you look at the situation of the club in terms of its debt, and where they are in comparison to other clubs that can afford big name players. So yeah, it's spiraling out of control, obviously the glazes have had the blame shifted a little bit to Ratcliffe, he's coming, he was in charge of what, he's obviously a business man. He knows what he's doing in the business front, I'm sure, but you know, he brought in the cycling coach and things like that, which were strange things to do. So it's not working, and I don't know what the answer is. Do you? They've tried that many things, I guess, I guess Manianite, Manianite are a huge football club and all this will be, but in terms of a football team, they're so far down the pecking order now. I mean, I guess part of the problem is they didn't get targets number one and number two, maybe not even number three in the summer, because they wanted better players and they wanted better recruitment. And that's been a problem for a while at Manchester United, they spent a fortune on some players that clearly are not good enough to get them to where they want to be. So the blame doesn't always necessarily lay out the coach's door. I mean, he did an incredible job getting them to where he did last season as an interim manager, but then the fall off from where they were last season, the Michael character, where they are now is incredible, isn't it? I mean, it's as if, I don't know, I'm guessing this, you go in there as an interim, and you tell all the players what they want to hear and you'll be nice and icy. And then you get given the job and you realize what has to be done. And you might have to put one or two noses out with joint. And then they don't like it. And then that's the situation they're in now and clearly. I hope he stays in the job. Me too. At some point, the club has got to recognise that it might not just be down to the coach. I mean, I know a lot of men, you know, it fans now will probably turn against Michael OK, I hope not, maybe some have already turned against him and don't think he's quite got what it takes. I understand those things, but he ain't the problem that Manchester United, the problems, the problems above. Well, just look at the number of managers or coaches that have had in it. It doesn't take a genius to work it out with the coach. They can't, they can't all be wrong, can they? But what he needs, the coach is a great scapegoat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a great scapegoat for those above, whether it be the glazes, whether it be Jim Ratcliffe, whether it be the, you know, the director of football, it's someone, oh, like, here we go. Do you know what would be a good plan for Man United? Get four interims a season, don't give them the job. Just bring in another interim. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's incredible, isn't it? Maybe that would work. So it was a really poor performance. What, I mean, what would you do as well if, if you're Michael Carrick now with Bruno? And someone talks about openly about the fact that he thinks you've got it wrong tactics. You know what it is though? It's like last season, he was the best player in the Premier League. He won the player in the year and he's a brilliant footballer and he has been for Man United. I mean, there'd been a much, there'd been a much worse state if it wasn't for him. His performances, not this season I might add, but, but it's, I mean, Michael is shoe-horning him into the team in terms of, yes, he's got a player, but he can't leave his best player out. He can't find a way to get his best player in his best position because of other circumstances. So he sort of played him out on the right hand side, didn't he? It led him up top tonight, so it's clearly, clearly he's not happy and a few of them are not happy. We know what that usually means. And you know what that usually means on an international break, looming and we know what that usually means, what they got, they got Bournemouth on Sunday at home, it just, you know what, it just feels as if you're a game away from a disaster at Man United. That's been that way for a while now. Brynson repeat. Yeah, it is. That's what it is, yeah. A word on Como though, because I thought they played some really good entertaining rotations, good football. I thought Nico Paz was, was absolutely brilliant and obviously he's taken over. I think he's taking Messi's number 10, so he'll need to be really good, but I mean, I thought his performance was fabulous, young Argentine. He was born in Tenerife, you know, actually. All right. Paz, yeah. And he was at Ramadred and a good bit of firm recruitment there to get him on a four year contract. Early on, when we came on, you mentioned that you mentioned about up and coming managers. Wow. He's the next one on the blocker's Sess Fabregas. I love his attitude. I love how calm he is, how balanced he is, and I mean, the job he's doing there is remarkable and they play it. I mean, when you look at, I don't know, look at the squads and look at the difference in terms of how much it costs to build those squads and the difference, the huge difference in tonight's performance from Como to Man United is incredible. And you have to see it, you have to see a well done to Sess Fabregas. You really do. Obviously, we've worked with both work with him and we all sit next to him on tactics and all this and his views and his interest in the game. You could see that there was something in there, but I love his drive as well. No, I've been out, obviously I went out to Como to interview him on the podcast a year or so ago. And when they just got promoted and the whole thing was can he keep them up? And he did. He's got them playing Champions League for one in the top 10 in the Champions League group stage at the moment. He's going to have a big decision at some point because if he continues, even if it's just moderate success with Como because realistically, you know, it's someone who comes from, there's no doubt about that. Yeah. It's a name he's invited. If he takes that job, he'll be mad. That's the thing though, isn't it? Michael Carrick now and Manu, you know, I mean, it's not, I know it's a huge football club but it's not. It's a track of job at the minute, is it? Because of how money's been in there and how money's been sacked. I mean, the only thing attractive about it is you might get a grip here often in months or 12 months time. That's it. It's a graveyard really. Right. And let's, let's to a kind of happy story. I did not like it was going to be on field last night, did it all went too down quite early and then managed to claw things back at half time and turn things around. What was your light there first? I think it's always a great, yeah, it's brilliant on field, I love going to one field. It's especially on Champions League nights under the floodlights. It's always a great atmosphere. They do it really well. The team didn't do it really well in the first, what 35 minutes Liverpool was bad as I've seen them for a long time in that first, first period. It was, they were dreadful, mistake after mistake after mistake and van Dyke made a huge error. I think he made three big errors in the first six to seven minutes and got punished for, for one of them in terms of the header back to ours and which never got there. And then Mick Adams, he finished it off from a tight angle. And then they go two nil down. What would the crowd like Alan work two nil? You know when I'm in the co-coms box and I can hear these fans behind me and all I can hear is it's come on lads, it's like I'm the language was incredible and seeing how badly we're playing. And I was having a little chuckle really, but somehow, I mean, to be fair, the fans stuck with them. And as soon as they get the first goal to make it 2-1, the Callister from the corner, you know what it's like in the two old clichés and it goals change games. And it did. And then they got somehow got to 2-2 a half-time. And that was a huge positive because they were never ever going to play as bad as they did in the second half as it did in the first half. So it's good to get his head on the end of things, McCannister. It's not very big, but it's brave and he gets in there, doesn't he? It's hard to talk. It was a great header at the right time because if they had a gone in behind it a half-time, it might have been different. And to be fair to Eryola, he changed it around, he put Graven Birch into right back and brought Birch on. Birch, I thought, was very good, but the start of the show on the night was Liverpool's best player by Amaya. Was Rio Angamoa. Yeah, he's a talent, isn't he? I think he's something special. Even when they were struggling in the first half, he was the only one in the first half, first 35 minutes. He was the only one in a Liverpool shirt that was positive, that got the ball and went straight at the defender. And he had the defender on top to really play it on the right hand side. He caused him massive problems all night. And once they came out in the second half, it was a different Liverpool play. On the front foot, pressed higher, worked as a team, playing passes into the front-men. Birch played very well. McAllister got his second goal. Birch got a goal. So yeah, it was so much better second half. And you could just tell it was a different vibe, different attitude, and they were much better at different team. I think Angamoa is really exciting. He knows he's good as well, and I love that. In it, not in an arrogant way, but I'd turn him into you. So what do you want to do? And so I want to win this. I want to win that. I want to win the ball and do all I'm thinking, wow, okay. He knows he's good. And he's not scared to take people on. He's got that. He's very exciting young in his time. I'm looking forward to watching him. Do you know what it is though? It's like they've got, you've spent a fortune on those first guys. They've got Barcola, they've got Muñoz, they've got Vert, they've got Esac, and I mean, John Champion asked me in commentary last night. What does the manager do for the weekend now? What is it? I mean, after this performance, and I was like, can you imagine after playing that well and pulling your team out with a Maya, like you did at 18 years of age, and then not playing at the weekend. I mean, I said for me, go again, go on. There's you've done that well, go and play again at the weekend. That's what I said. Let's not compare them completely yet, but let me name out, for example, everyone knew how good he was. Barcola knew how good he was, and he was in the team at 15, 16 player. Hopefully that won't come back to bite them, because we've seen it with possibly other players. And even you could say, perhaps, because, second hours, you know, getting injured again, which is a shame, so he's played so much football when he looked. So they need to be nurtured and protected, but it is exciting to see. You mentioned Gravenberg went back to Wrightback. I was actually watching obviously PSG and Barça. So they're not quite replaced of the Trent, but there's a few rumors. I mean, he's not really getting much of a look in with Maurinho at Madrid at present. There are a few rumors that the boy Alexander Hanna might go back. That would be interesting, wouldn't it? Yeah. I mean, the criticism, I guess, but what you got when he left him, we were all like, well, okay, it's fine. He's been got food so many times, because they don't like to see him move that. Yeah, that would be interesting, really interesting, wouldn't it? Yeah. Big test for Liverpool at the weekend. We've got Brighton. Brighton, yeah. Yeah. Brighton. Who are flying? Absolutely. Yeah. So should we be a good game? That one. They'll have to defend better. Yeah, they leave Liverpool leave you big chances in terms of the space in front of the back four and behind. They're going to have to massively improve Liverpool defensively, because they've conceded three in the last Champions League game, conceded three against Viral Real. You can't go on like that. They have to improve massively at the back. Before we go, I think we should have a word on Villa. Second only to PSG in the overall table. I think you remember at the start of the season, they got battered by Brighton on the opening day. They lost some big name players, you know, Rodgers, Watkins, Conzer as well. So, and you think in, or they're going to struggle bad start, but who nice, good, and me? Seven wins from nine games. I mean, there's them Liverpool, Real Madrid, PSG, one or two of those who have won three out with three in the Champions League. And I got a good look at Villa at the weekend, didn't I, because they were in Newcastle. So, and Unai Emery did a job on Newcastle. He is an unbelievable coach. He is with what has gone on at Villa and what they've had to do and for them to keep going and going and replacing and buying and the job that he's doing and the coach and that he does on the way, he gets the very, very best out of his team. He's a brilliant coach. He really is. He is. I love his enthusiasm. He's like that drive, constant drive, season in season now. And all the success he's had in European football as well, you know, even when he's very trophy as well. So, I wanted to give him a big love, it's an interview for the pod at some stage. So, if you're a listener, Unai, we'd love to have a chat. We're big fans, yeah. We are. I know sure Villa fans love him. They must love him. He's what a job he's done. He just shows you as well. All the stick, when you've got someone good, stick with him, give him a chance. Can you imagine any other job in the world where you go in and six months later? How can you change anything really, realistically in a business in that? I know football is a mad world, but it just shows you, but Unai Emery, obviously, fantastic job that he's doing. Okay, Al, thank you. That's it for this episode. The rest is for football, bye for me. Goodbye for me. Before this, there's this. The people grow in the grass, they've been the lots, weld in the goalposts, inspecting every football, the hardworking people to make every Sunday possible. Visit carhartt.com/jointhetrades to learn more.