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Caroline Rhea-adjacent: Tuesday, September 29th, 2026

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Caroline Rhea-adjacent: Tuesday, September 29th, 2026

Jackson and Claudia reflect on a series of personal and societal topics in their latest episode. They share an emotional journey of growth, especially regarding their new electric vehicle and the challenges of parking, which leads to feelings of embarrassment and a deeper appreciation for practicality. Their decision to prioritize safety over style—choosing a Volvo over a Range Rover—mirrors a broader shift in parenting priorities, emphasizing stability and responsibility. A heartfelt moment involves acknowledging their earlier jealousy toward Olivia’s pregnancy and now recognizing the joy and sisterhood that has developed. They also voice strong concerns about professionals like therapists and teachers making content on social media, arguing it violates privacy and causes emotional harm. The episode touches on controversial real-life stories, including Jesse Draper’s new relationship with Marciano Brunette, which they question due to the timeline and emotional strain involved. They highlight a compelling Netflix documentary on Matthew Perry’s life, focusing on his struggles with addiction and sobriety. Throughout, they promote a range of lifestyle brands—Skims for breathable cotton clothing, Got to Be for hair care, Ladder for fitness, and Egg Life for high-protein wraps—as practical tools for everyday life. The tone blends humor, vulnerability, and social critique, underscoring themes of personal accountability, privacy, and the complexity of modern relationships. The episode ends with a sense of grounded reflection, showing how personal experiences and public narratives intersect in unexpected ways.

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♪ Good morning, girlies, it's the tallos ♪ ♪ It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes ♪ ♪ It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know ♪ ♪ We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast ♪ I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Chos, and Happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a great second day of their week. I know I'll be back. We're back together. We drove separately, though. We did drive separately. Which drives people nuts, like over the summer. We talked about this on our Patreon. People are both driving electric cars so you can't even say. I did want to follow up with fossil fuels. I did want to follow up about the vehicle because we made our music video in the parking lot as promised. We made our music video in the parking lot as promised on TikTok, you know, special treat for people who follow me on TikTok. And bonus content, like we have Patreon. Refuses to post it to Instagram because she- You should be rewarded for following me on TikTok all 400,000 of you. Really? That's really good. I know. People were like, I thought you guys were joking. You just got like a bigger car. No, no, it's like a bright red pickup truck. And I forgot to tell you guys, it's electric. Like, I've never driven electric car before. You just go in and it starts. On the engine. I'm going to drive solo today, which was not as fun. Oh. And I felt that I didn't get that sort of blue collar respect I was getting. People were walking all over me today. Oh, I'm so sorry. And then something humiliating happened to me when I was parking. I don't know if you- like, we got here at the same time. But it took me a second to- I saw you like going to do your things. I was just going to let you do it in peace and privacy. I wasn't going to- like, because we have to back into our spots. Yeah. You know, is that a little bit challenging? Backed in. There were a million spots. By the way, a million open spots. And I'm like straddled between two spots. I'm literally like, Mandy Moore into places at once. And this car in front of me is like passing by. And like, stops right in front of me. I'm like, excuse me, I'm trying to- And it's a toaster. She's like, she obviously recognized the car. She was like, hi, she was like, roll down her window talking. And I'm like, I was so embarrassed. Not only am I parking so poorly. Like, I mean, this big bright red car. And I was like, really not my best self to like, converse. Because I was really panicked about the parking spot. But she was in a Ford Expedition. Which looked like a gorgeous car. I have my eyes out for cars now. Claudia is looking for a new mom car. I think I've settled. Yeah, which is just so interesting. It's such a big decision. I feel like I keep trying to tell everyone. And I also feel like there is- I mean, there's a lot of mom cars. But it just feels like there's not enough. No, and it's fun. I feel the same way. Like, obviously, my priorities are shifted. Like, I need, you know, cabs and seats. God willing for two car seats, whatever. But like, I'm still me. And like, I am kind of shallow when it comes like wanting like a pargy. The sports car. So when we were in the Hamptons, Ben was like, look around. There's so many nice cars. Like, what do you like? And what should we get? And the thing is I only really like like a Range Rover. I think it's because I was like brought up watching real housewives of like all the cities. And like, all the- they were cool moms. Driving Range Rovers. Like, Range Rovers are so cool. I had a Range Rover. It was really not a great experience just like in terms of- They're kind of faulty. You know, they have lots of issues. And when I got one, everyone was like, you're going to have to take it to the shop. And I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. The thing was in the shop the entire time. That's infuriating. So I almost this time was like, let's just get another Range Rover. Because they're sick. Like, they just are so cool. They're so housewives. But you know what? I've opted for safety. And I think I feel like LeBron. I will be taking my talents to the Volvo dealership. I've heard great things about the CX90. Apparently, it's like the safest car. Yes. And I feel like whenever I'm watching a TV show, like your friends and neighbors. And they're trying to show like a really cool, like wealthy mom. Like, she's a Volvo. You know what I mean? It's very, it's very understated. Like, you guys wouldn't understand, you know? No, I went through this exercise myself. That car was also on my list. It's not every mom's list. Yeah. And so we'll do it. And you know what? Like, I want to experience a new car. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Yeah. I'm excited for you. I'm really excited. And just know if you see someone in a Range Rover, like just know they're struggling. And just so if you see the violence cracked up to you. In a bright red electric pickup truck, like trying to back into their spot. Just like, seriously, wish them the best. Wish them the best. Like, I felt bad. I wanted to like converse and have a sorely chit-chat. But like, I was actually sweating. Yeah. It was so embarrassing. And I couldn't figure out, you don't get yourself into like a mind, like a parking mind. You can't like figure out what the logical thing is to get. It sticks behind like, which way you should care. Yes. Like, I'm like, do I start over? And I didn't. So I just like kept readjusting. I must have done it like four or five times. It was trauma. Trauma. I'm sorry, you went through that. Your Volvo will never. And Jackie says it like Volvo. No, I don't. How would you say it? Volvo. Volvo. Yes. Okay. But it's V-O-L-V-S. Right. You're saying it like V-U. Volvo. Volvo. Volvo. Volvo. Now we're saying it too many times. It's starting to sound weird. Volvo. Enjoy your Volvo. I will enjoy my Volvo. Cool. Julio. It's Tuesday. We have to your toasters. I just picked them out. They're kind of crazy. Dorees are so weird. Yeah. Yeah. But we're going to do our thing. It doesn't matter because you don't want one and one. Because we started watching Dancing With The Stars. Like the future starts now. We're saved tonight. Tonight we'll be able to talk about. Like there is a story. Like who? No, I didn't choose it. Because it's not that bad. Like what the stars are dancing to. No, I don't care. But just when we be able to feed off of Tuesday night's episode for like at least two more days. So while -- And we have to your toasters today. I'm not concerned. And I'm glad like there's nothing crazy happening. We can just catch up. Uh-huh. Chad, I've been loving Babylon. I just want to say, I added it to my like song. Oh, that's huge. Yeah. It's the only one so far that made it. If I were to choose songs to make it to my list, it would be Babylon and Cleveland. It's really, you know? Yeah. It's really growing on me. But Babylon, yes. It's definitely the best written song from the encore. And, yeah, I guess sonically too. It's not like a bop. But it feels like it would be unlike -- There's not somebody say it feels like the big sister of Renegade. Remember, she released that song Renegade with like a band she started? Barely. She like -- I can't say Renegade. I know. I know. It's sort of like she should have changed something to something else. What was that band she started? Whatever. It was one of her greatest songs. There's not somebody say Babylon. It's sort of like the sequel to it. It does sound similar. It's a great song. Are you seeing people saying that patient zero sounds similar to father figure? I have not seen people say that. And I feel that because all of a sudden I have father figure back in my head. And it's coming from the undertones of patient zero. Listening to patient zero without watching the music video is not as fun. I agree. Yeah. And it can be like watching the music video like while I'm in the car. So for now it's just -- Yeah. Now when I listen to it again I'm like back to the night first thought. Yeah. Yeah. Oh gee. Yeah. But at least I can think about the music video and visualize it. And dream about it. I'm Jack and I recorded a patreon yesterday. If you're not a patreon member, I just feel like I'm missing out on it. It's so many inside jokes. Yeah. And just like so much more information. Yeah. We sort of keep like a part of ourselves guarded until we're on the patreon. Don't you find? Like it's such a safe space. That and like the episodes are already so long that -- Here you mean? Yeah. Like if we want to talk like more about our -- Like there's no time. It feels like we're out of time. It's true. And like we're constantly releasing 90 minute episodes. It's actually insane. It is. Our episodes are getting longer. How? And we're getting like more interesting and funny. Is that interesting? It is interesting. I'll be curious today. Like knowing the stories are a drag. Right. We do have dear toasters. But like how long it will be -- How far we can take this. How far -- yeah. No, without even trying. I'm just curious. I actually feel like it would be a normal episode. Because we got so much out of our system yesterday with like a big Monday catch up. We did like 15 pop culture stories. And then we recorded a patreon. Which was just like a pregnancy TTC journey. Conception. Everything. Very sexual episode. Yeah. That's right. So that's up on the patreon now. I feel like curious about that at all. And I just want to say like sending Olivia a couple of lots of love. Like I didn't -- like she means the world to me. Like I talked a lot about Olivia a couple. Like what she means to me on the journey. Yeah. And I feel like -- And what her pregnancy means to you. And like how it affected me. Like kind of in a negative way. And I just want to say -- I don't feel like I led with the fact that I'm really happy for her. And like I came off with my own jealousy. You did. I think you did say like I was happy. And then I was jealous. No, no, but I wasn't. Like I was strictly jealous. And now like that I'm at a place where I conceived successfully. I can be like exclusively happy for her. But I feel like I didn't say that on the episodes. I just want to say like Olivia a couple. Like while you were an integral part of my journey in a negative way. Like now we're sisters bonded for life. And I just -- I didn't lead with like the joy and the gratitude. And like the -- Being happy for someone. Yeah. So yeah, there's like kind of drama between me and Olivia a couple on the Patreon. If you want to go check it out, patreon.com/tuss. Your twin mom. My kind of my twin flame. So like a plate date. Yes. You know. If I had to have a celebrity plate date, it would unfortunately have to be at Olivia a couple's house. Hopefully the one that she bought from George Clooney. Hopefully with their furniture on. Yeah. I'm who's your celebrity mom, buddy, Rihanna? Rihanna and Nicole Comes. That's a good one. That would be a fun plate date. I'm secretly hoping. I'm not projecting. Predicting. Because I don't think she is kind of like need-haley Bieber. Are we pregnant? Because then we would be like two for two. Even though we barely cross paths in the first pregnancy. We were both pregnant at the same time for like a brief period. Yeah. Like me, Rihanna and Nicole are like very in sync. Aligned. Yeah. So we had to get like a little bit more flexible on the timelines. Like of course, Lauren Lane. Mm-hmm. And Raven. Of course, Gates, of course. Raven was my twin for a while. So it's important to have celebrities to whom you feel connected. It's kind of like in childhood. Worthy buddies. Next iteration is like your celebrity mom plate date hypothetical. Labor buddies. But I am hoping for a plate date. Olivia Colpo just want you to know. Age gap buddies. Age gap buddies. Yeah. I met someone in real life who has like three boys. Very similar ages to my boys. And I'm like we need to have a plate it every day. Yeah. Do you want to move in with us? That's how I feel about Olivia Colpo. She's obviously welcome to moving with me. Although based on what I know about her home. We should probably move in with her. We should move in with her. Yeah. - That's not looking amazing. - It looks amazing. - It looks amazing. - I have been loving her home journey. - Did you see her kitchen wallpaper? - No. - 'Cause she just showed me how Oliver sprinkles. - Uh-huh. - Who's like, "Job, that's gonna wear a liviacobo and I differ in our pregnancy mama journeys." Is that like, she had this dog which she's had. It was basically her Theo. - Yeah. - And I always say like, if I was in this place now with Theo, I think I would feel differently, but I have this like new dog in my house and like, I literally don't know him. - Bless you. - And he peed in Jackie's new house over the weekend and like, seriously, like, I wanted to disown him, like, 1000% but she has this dog who she like, you know, had it probably for like five or six years before she gave birth and he's been just like such an integral part of her mother, her journey and she loves him like more than ever. - She loves him even more. - And we're sort of, that's kind of where we differ in our journeys, but I feel that other than that, we're pretty much just about to go. - Well, she posted a picture of Oliver sprinkles like trying to get onto the high-chair classic stuff. - Classic stuff, Romeo would be shot dead. I'm kidding, yeah, I'm kidding. I just want you guys to know, I'm largely joking when I talk about Romeo. We've actually made like, a lot of strides he sleeps in the bed now. I think he could definitely sense like the pregnancy hormones. He's been really good aside from the whole thing on your new drapes and the carpet, yeah. The carpet was like such a little one. It wasn't like, the stain wasn't even a question. It came out. - And it wasn't an important carpet. - No, no, the drapes were like brand new. I am largely joking. Like, obviously, I'm not like thrilled with everything he does, but we've really made a lot of strides. - Yeah. - But I'm not like at the Oliver sprinkles level. - No, it's not giving off of our sprinkles. Anyways, she posted a picture of Oliver sprinkles trying to get on the high-chair and it was in the kitchen. The wallpaper was just like in part G. - Her house was really. - I look forward to your play date. - Yeah, I'm sure it's your face time, you know. - Yeah. - Hey, could I come over? - The kids are playing in the bathroom taking pictures of everything. - They sent me from the bathroom. - So yeah, like for the sake of the show, like I guess. - Yeah, what else do we do yesterday? We did our paycheck, we had a part G lunch. - I actually became a carrying yesterday. I wanted to share the story of what I did at the restaurant. - What did you do? - The TV. - Oh, that's not carrying. - It's a little carrying, let me tell you why. 'Cause like I wasn't personally with any children. We had an adult lunch. We were at a casual lunch place that had three TVs. They were playing like sports, sports, and then like a daytime soap opera. Now maybe I'm new to the soap opera game or things have changed, but there was an actual porn scene. I was shocked. I picked my head up in the middle of the day and there's porn, like little porn. - Yeah, they're like making out on the couch. - She's in a bra on underwear. - And he's not wearing a shirt. - Yeah. - They're making out so hard, like straddling. And it's like on the middle of the day and like there was a baby next to me. I didn't have any kids with me. So like I could have just ignored it. But I felt that the restaurant should know. And I said to the waiter, I'm like I'm sorry to be a Karen. Like I feel like maybe we should change a channel on that. I said it really nice. And like in a cool, like I'm not like a loser type of way. I feel like maybe we should change a channel on that TV 'cause like it's kind of inappropriate. But obviously when I said it, like the scene was over. - Yeah. - So I just really looked like a Karen. But you know what I stand by it? It felt wrong. - It was so weird. - It was so weird. It was so inappropriate. Like for adults too. - Oh, I feel, I'm saying that my sister, like excuse me, that's disgusting. - He's all like a table of friends, right? - Yeah, we were like, you guys seen what we're seeing. It was disgusting. - Yeah. - So it's kind of like a new notch in my belt for a 30 year old woman. - 30? - 30. - I'm not gonna even do the math. I don't know if you're being true. - I'm 30. - It's a good age. - Yeah. - Oh yeah, you were like, they did your 30, 30 and Mahjong party. - Yeah. - Next subject. - That's a net, 30. - Yeah, I'm crack-tired. - Yeah, that's it. - 30, 30. - That's what it was. - Okay, well let's get into this. - Oh, by the way, big news in the Mahjong world. New Love Shack fancy, X, Oh My Mahjong, Q Lab, Jack and I got the tiles. We haven't had a chance to play with you yet, but it's like so hard to try to play last night but our game fell through. - I'm trying to like think of an equivalent like collab. - It's kind of like Fendi skims, like literally groundbreaking. - Yeah, or like, I mean, every collab like Love Shack fancy does is like, love Shack fancy Nuna. Wasn't for the boy moms, but happy for the girl moms. - Love Shack fancy Stanley. I feel like that reset a generation. - Love Shack fancy on my Mahjong. - Like tiles, racks. - Yeah. - We haven't even opened yet. Like I'm so excited. - Yeah, we need to do like an unboxing and we need to play. We don't have like a game on and that's sort of problematic. - We will, we will. - Oh, if you want to hear about Tirti's latest thoughts on Mahjong, you'll have to head to the Patreon. - That's what I'm saying. - The Patreon you recorded yesterday, I feel that you, if you really want to know me and like what I'm going through and like what I've been going through, I've got to head to the Patreon. - Yeah, I think we should get into the stories and like, because, you know, I've hyped them up so much. - Yeah. - It'd be so terrible. They'll probably be good, actually. - Yeah. - Without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five stories that yet I do need to know. - And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Skims, one of our favorite brands and Oh, you have our favorite collaboration. - You have heard us say before, but we'll say it again. Skims is top tier. Their fabrics are truly one of a kind. 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And now this is the please dash cam footage, because they were escorting them through the airport. Body cam. Oh, right, sitting up. They're not. Body cam footage. It's so upsetting. It's so upsetting. And then Teresa has put out a statement about the situation. It's actually really heartbreaking. This is what it says. She said, as a mother, there's nothing more important to me than the health safety and well-being of my children. The past few months have been incredibly difficult for our family. And I feel it is important to say something while also protecting my daughter during an extremely vulnerable time in her life. Lonnie has experienced tremendous heartbreak and significant psychological trauma after losing two of her best friends. Grief effects, everyone differently. And watching your child try to process that kind of loss is something no parent can ever truly prepare for. Right now, my only focus is my daughter making sure she is surrounded by love, family, support, and the care that she needs. I understand that because our family has lived much of our lives in the public eye, there will be naturally be questions and speculation. But Lonnie is my daughter before she has anything else. Sorry. You had to. Sorry. I still-- Never apologize. You absolutely did. It's from Teresa. She's a young woman going through an incredibly difficult and deeply personal time. And she deserves the opportunity to heal with her every moment of her pain being analyzed publicly. I am asking from one mother to another and from one family to all of you to please show Melania compassion and kindness and allow her the privacy she needs right now. We are incredibly grateful to everyone who's reached out with love, prayers, and support. It means more to our family than you know. At this time, we respectfully ask the media and the public to give Melania and our entire family the privacy and space we need as we navigate this together. Thank you for your understanding. Your compassion is most importantly for respecting my daughter during this difficult time. Message you see. 1,000%. I have to say, I didn't watch Teresa on TV my whole life. She did not write that statement, but whoever did nailed every single point. You have my utmost privacy. I'm not getting involved. I really want to-- I'm very much in my soft Teresa era. And this situation just broke my heart even further. I was also very surprised at her composure. Gia was the one kind of ushering them into the elevator and being classic Gia for a storter, very mature. And Teresa, we know, is sort of to be the one to fly off the handle and be sort of impulsive. I was really impressed with how she handled the situation like very calmly, like kind of the anti-tree. Yeah, very measured, just like supportive as much as she can be and not like, you know, going across each other. But one, yeah, we don't really have a full understanding of like what's going on with Melania too, like, especially after the statement, like I won't be-- I'm not pressing. Further, you know? Yeah, although I just want to say like-- and I like that she did like accuse people because we only know about this because Gia-- like they shared it with-- Sorry, Melania. Of course. So it's like, we will spot out of it, but like, you open the door, but not-- I'm not like blaming you. But even so, the door was open and-- And I'll close it myself. We won't walk through it. 100%. I'm not going to-- And I don't really want to because I don't know what's going on. Yeah, and I did see like over the past couple of weeks and months, Melania posting all about her friend who passed away, which is just like so sad. So I'm sure there's a lot going on that we don't know about. And I truly like, I wish them the best. They've been through so much that family. It's honestly surprising that they haven't had like more issues, like just growing up in the spotlight. The trauma with their parents, legal issues, divorce, deportation, like they're entitled to-- you know, I actually did see like a therapist. Like, hi, I just want to say, if your therapist is making TikToks, I can meet a new therapist. I'm sorry, there are certain people who should not be making TikToks. And I don't know if this is going to get any cancel, but if you're a teacher, you make TikToks like in your home. I actually don't even think that you should, honestly, but in your classroom is crazy. Like, not even-- I see a lot of teachers who do it, like, not with their kids. Like, there's not a kid in it ever, but it's like, you're making TikToks in your classroom. Like, I just think that's inappropriate. Healthcare worker, sorry, you are banned from TikTok. I think, sorry. And therapists. It's like, oh my god, the therapist. And they're like analyzing, here's my take on Melani Adjudice as a therapist. So take this with a great assault, because, you know, but she said that it looks like Melani has oppositional defiance disorder, which is-- Where have I heard that before? I don't know, probably chapter three of my New York Times best-selling memoir, because I too went to like a child therapist when I was super young, because I was, like, such a bad kid. Like, I had such, like, rage issues. And they said I probably had oppositional defiance disorder, and they wanted to put me on meds. My parents were like, OK, thanks for letting us know. But, like, we'll talk to you later. I just sort of, like, kind of grew out of it. But I guess it can hit you later in life. Yeah. And you can pick up my memoir, because you don't need to respect my privacy. Amazon.com, or wherever you purchase books. That's so crazy. I know. And, you know what? Like, we were saying that she reminds you of a young you. A young me, like, very energetic. Like, you at your bot mitzvah is Melania Judeis on the real houses of New Jersey. But me at my mitzvah was, like, me channeling all my energy in a positive way, because obviously, like, the day was about me. She channels her energy in a positive way, too. Most of the time. On the show when she was, like, a Ram Bunches child, but she also just, like, had an attitude and had. And it was perfect for TV. Yeah, but when you are this type of, like, authority-defying, energetic, young woman, sometimes you don't know where to put that energy in, like, comes out in negative ways. No, and if you're that-- I thought it was a good diagnosis. It is. And if you're that sort of child, it's, like, yeah, you may be grew out of it or, like, learn to resist it. But if you don't, how that presents itself. But again, I'm giving privacy. That's just, you know. Give course. And you know how, like, if you work in finance, like, you're literally not allowed to be on social media. Like, making content. Yeah, like, a choir sister. A choir sister gave up her job at Goldman Sachs, because she was making content. They were like, girl, it's us or them. And she chose TikTok. But I think you made the right choice, of course. I think they should have more industries like that. Like, it's really insane. Yeah, I agree. I feel like people are getting mad that I said that. Because, like, I'm not coming for teachers. Like, I love teachers. I love health care workers. And I know that's, like, a very proud group, both of them. But I'm sorry, I do feel like you shouldn't be able to make TikToks, I do. Yeah, in your place of work. In your place of work, absolutely. And I think, like, a health care worker, like, yeah, go make your OOTDs, like, that has nothing to do. But, like, a teacher-- I don't know, like, your students can see it. It's touchy when you're students. I think that even if you're a teacher or a therapist, you shouldn't make TikToks either. Yeah, I know, like, a public manner, you know? Yeah, like, a profile. Imagine you go to therapy, and you see your-- Like, later on, because you have your phone number now, you get connected, and you see an OOTD of your therapist. Like, I just think that not everyone can and should do content-- I should see that. --content or rather see an OOTD of your therapist, or, like, your therapist talking about therapy. OOTD, because it's completely removed. I would feel that my privacy was compromised if, like, you're over here talking about therapy. And I've seen people, like, therapists on TikTok, being, like, you know, I once had a client. It's like, girl, shut up. Like, even though you're not saying who it is, stop. It's someone else's business. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, like, there are a couple of industries that-- Or you could just not be on TikTok, like, me. Well, why should we suffer? I'm over to Reels. No, I'm talking about Reels too. Reels-- we don't have these problems as-- You don't have Reels. But a lot of those creators, like, upload their content to Reels, as well. And then Reels suppresses it, because-- As they should. They say, no. You just want to watch them hoffers and Ari Lindeig build a chicken coop. Did you see Ari Lindeig went along with the kids for six days? I'm obsessed with Ari Lindeig, yeah. And he, like, sort of, like, on day six. He was just, like, bucket. He ordered Chinese food and let the kids eat dinner in front of the TV. Like, I'm obsessed. Where's Lauren? I don't know. He didn't say it. I was, like, is she filming traders? Like, I literally didn't I wish it was. But I don't think she is. No, I don't think she is. Well, she's not in the cast and it's not really her personality type. No. She also just finished breastfeeding, so maybe she took herself on a trip, like a girl's trip. The line dykes very much, like, not retired from public life, but they don't like put themselves. Ari was on season one of traders before it was even a thing. And beyond that, I feel like they just really like influencing and making good money and like having a family at home. Like, I don't think, I don't think they want those opportunities. So no, I don't think she's on traders. I actually could see them and they might even be on, like, HDTV or something. They're very, like, low state. But they're not like on the reality star hamster, we know, but Ari, like, almost was. But I feel like he could be. And I think he gets tapped for some. I mean, he was the lead. So like that. Yes. There's only so many people who are that lead. And they do want bachelor people, so I think he gets asked to do stuff. Yeah. And they have, like, an interesting, I feel like the way the Tyler Cameron's getting reintroduced to a young audience on dancing with the stars. Kids these days don't know about Ari choosing Becca, right? And then, like, breaking up with her. And now they're together. Kids, like, obviously, he made the right choice, but you had to be there, you guys. That was insane. It was only twice happened in bachelor history. It makes sense. Of course. It can be very confusing. Yeah. I feel like I'm by the final two. It's really down to your head and your heart. And you sometimes, or sometimes like it's like for Caleb or so, I know I always bring them up, but I'm so toxic because she's moved on. It was always gonna be fun. Of course. Sometimes it's like so obvious. I was thinking. No, but sometimes I feel like Ben Higgins, like, really loved JoJo and Lauren, like, and he didn't know what to do. You think so? I don't think he was right for either of them. And no matter who he would have chosen, it wouldn't have worked out. You think so. Yeah. So interesting. Because like, JoJo was always meant to be with Jordan. Of course. But you don't think it was hard for her to break up with Robbie. I don't. Whoever I had to break up with Chase McNary, now that was hard. But Robbie was her final two. And that's a smart move is to bring someone that you know you don't like all the way. That's what I mean. Like, for JoJo, it was always Jordan. Yeah. And the women are a little bit more decisive. Better at Claire. It was always down. What's right for them? Yes. For Claire, it was always down. That was also a crazy season. And I feel like we never even talked about the fact that I'm pretty sure Caitlin Bristow is still dating Zach Clark, whom was engaged to Tisha and Caitlin Tisha were like best rounds. That's kind of like one of the biggest scandals in bachelor history that went under the radar because Caitlin and because they never, yeah, but I do feel like they can come out now. Yeah. I feel like enough time has passed. No, Tisha definitely hates Caitlin. Oh, for sure. And hate her forever. Yeah. That's totally fine. Right. It's sort of like something Caitlin had to be okay with. Yeah. It's like something borrowed. Like you're losing a friend and you're choosing like this great love or what you think will be a great love. Like West Amanda. Right. But at this point, if Caitlin and Zach are still together, then they might be together longer than Zach and Tisha were. Correct. And like in which case I think like they can move on happily and I think they can come out. They are actually like in hiding. Are they still that would be crazy if they're still together? I'm almost 100% sure that they are. And she's like very public and shares a lot about her life. So like just she say, I don't I feel that it must really negatively impact like her ability to podcast. Well, does she just talk about her boyfriend and just like everyone. Nameless faceless. And everyone knows, but we just don't say his name. Maybe that is crazy. And if it ever does a rough, it will it is sort of like something that's bummed into the surface. And it will erupt. But I think it will be okay. What was the story? R-E-L-I-N-D-E-K. Oh, okay. I was like, do we ever move on past the first story? Let's see. Look at us. Like 90 minutes here. We come. I don't even want to. Oh, you because of therapists on TikTok. Yeah. Oh, wow. We've really gone far. Oh, R-E-L-I-N-D-X home with the kids are six days. Yeah. One thing. It always comes back to R-E-L-I-N-D-X Instagram. The way that like the original call her daddy was obsessed with R-E-L-I-N-D-X social media in a negative way. Like we're kind of taking that and channeling it in really positive way. Yeah. Like constantly, I'm about to get those outdoor like seats that he got like I'm so influenced by him. Yeah. Yeah. Our next story. Okay. So I think some Netflix stock news that you will care about Matthew Perry is getting an Netflix stock called The One About Matthew Perry. The trailer is dropped. Oh, that's really good. It's about the late friends his star's career, his $7 million sobriety journey and more. Who's in it? Like did any of the friends sit for it? He's actually also like very, like his family is really interesting too. Yeah. So the trailer was two minutes, he dropped, he chronicles his experience with fame and the realization that it was not actually everything he wanted. He uses testimonies from his sister Mia Perry Bowick, several other close friends and unreleased photos and videos from the Perry family's private archive. The three part series explores his career as a beloved actor and comedian. I'll also revealing details about his long-term struggle with drug use and his attempts to get sober. The release of the film will come on the third anniversary of his death. Okay. So none of the friends are involved. It seems like this is sanctioned by his family because they're like providing footage and stuff. Let me tell you if you're going to watch us read his book, like it is one of the best celebrity memoirs. Obviously I've always liked friends. I was never really a Chandler girl, honestly, I found him so annoying, but it totally changed my perspective on him. It's one of the best, most honest memoirs probably I've ever read. It's up there with like open book, like it's insane what Matthew Perry went through, like not only as like a big celebrity, but like just his child to do. So good. I'm just going to be like sort of a cliff notes version of the book because the book is like it's done for you. You can make a documentary out of the book, except it's not complete because it doesn't have the end date. Oh, true. So like what is final? Yeah, but even though the ending of the book was like sort of not foreshadowing, but like inconclusive. Yeah, because he didn't say like I've got it. Yeah. He was like this is something I'll struggle with my whole life. He had, you know, really long bouts of sobriety, like 10 years. And you think after 10 years, like, okay, I've got it under control. But then he would relapse again. And he was like, I probably will relapse again. And he, the financial element of it was so crazy too. So like the amount of money he spent on rehabs, those are like drug seven million dollars. It's insane. It's insane. It was such a good memoir. And I'll probably watch this too. I feel like you will because you really like his memoir really. It was one of the best books 100%. What was it called? Bad name. It was like lovers and friends, your neighbors. It was like how was it called? Oh, and the big terrible thing. Friends lovers and the big terrible thing. That's not so bad. It's not. Because it sounds like that's what the book was about. Friends, the show. Lovers. He actually had a lot of very famous romantic interests. He doesn't name them. But you can piece it together based on like public information. Yeah. And the big terrible thing. Yeah, right. And the big, like there are certain things you pick up from books that you remember your whole life, right? I remember him saying that he was like a colloquy baby. And back in the day, they used to give like narcotics to colloquy babies because his mother was like at her wit's end. She took him to the doctor after like literally three months of not one wink of sleep. And it was very common. Like it wasn't illegal or anything like the doctors would just give you a narcotic and he really feels that he had this like chemical attraction since birth literally to narcotics, which was like one of the many things that he struggled with. Um, and I was like, okay, that's crazy. That is crazy. Yeah. And like just little nuggets from the book that I remember. I like, he literally, I believe at the time of his death was like how to cross me bag. Like he had made himself so sick with drugs that like it was affecting his health so poorly that he ended up in a coma. And I don't think he could properly digest. I believe he had a cost of cross me bag. Like it was really crazy. Oh, wow. And he didn't even care. Like he literally left the hospital and got drugs. Yeah. I wonder if John Malini is going to write a memoir. I feel like he would be a good memoir person probably at some point. Yeah. Maybe he's still like living. Yeah. Well, young kids. So maybe he wants to like have more parenthood and help, or he looks in the rear view. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? It's like a small bit of news, but it's quite shocking. It appears as though Jesse Draper has bought a house with Marciano Brunette. So Jesse Draper from secret lives in Mormon wives posted a video on real saying new beginnings loading. And it's her in an empty home with Marciano Brunette. He's running into his arms, he's picking up and swinging her. And then the caption is, I'm still dizzy. Okay. This is a very fine line for me to walk because as you know, and we also need to talk about the fact that Jen Affleck was wearing morning toast morning. Am I okay? Toast march and her Instagram. Which is pretty new. Which is pretty new. No, and not only that, like there are maybe some merch items of ours you could wear if you have no idea what the toast is, like sort of generic. Like pargy? Yeah, right. Pargy? Like that's a very in the nose. I'm just hoping she borrowed it from Jesse. And Jesse. And just like the fit and didn't give it back because I like hope she didn't hear what was that. I kind of hope she did. You know, maybe it's sort of the wake up call that she needs. Like from one, she's kind of like my, in my pregnancy circle as well. We're two for two. I mean, she has four kids, but the bottom two. The bottom two. Yeah, you can have like a little splitting. Yeah. Well, the kids are like, you know, the park is only sorry back to Jesse Draper. It's a fine line to walk because I know she listens to the show and I know she loves us. And I love her. And I told you, Jesse, like I have not gotten to the Marciano redemption arc yet. Like we have not seen the last episode I just saw. He was like taking a trip, like literally being so thirsty with chase. Like yucky. Like anyone who associates with chase to me is like so disgusting. So I'm having a really hard time like understanding and also like I'm tired for you. Like you just moved. We just watched you. And you moved for no reason. Like you just hated the energy in your old house. And you enjoyed it. And like got a new house, like help your marriage. Then you ended up getting bored. Well, it's still like thinking that you're going to get divorced. Yeah. Go in it with the intention of like this will be our new start. It's like we just want to get rid of that. So we get to work. And like still have the same time. So like I don't even feel like you needed to sage the energy out of the house that you just moved into because Jordan was barely there. He was there for five minutes. Um, moving is expensive. It's exhausting. Like I'm tired for you. Yeah. I also like I just, I don't get the Marciano hype because like as far as I know, he lied on you. He tried to ruin your life. He's so thirsty. He gives me the I. Um, but like that's your man, your man, your man. So I don't know, 'cause you are one of my faves, and I'm trying to learn to trust you. But without more context, it's very difficult. It is difficult. I don't know. I feel like I would need to watch Vander Prom Villa. Oh, I'm sorry, and like who paid for the house? Well, I'm sure her. And like, they're not actually like moving in together. I hope that the video's head. No, but like, I hope she paid for the house so that like, she can kick him out at any time. Like, they're not mad. How could he have paid for the house? Does that have a job? In order to like make a judgment on his like personality or character, I would have to watch Vander Prom Villa, you know? It's not a risk of moving. Everything that I've seen on Samo's, obviously, been living about him. She does seem like really happy and in love, but what you see on social media is not oftentimes real life. But like, the story that she's telling on social media. It's like, the web that she's been, it's beautiful. I know. Like, I want it so desperately for her to be true. But like, could it possibly be this good? Like, I guess like, you really don't know people from TV, but like, I've only been given these 10 episodes of Marciano to judge, I got to know him from anything else. And only stuff I've seen is like so bad. Yeah, I'm not seeing one redeeming quality. I guess like when he came and told the truth, after all the lies, like, that's supposed to be redemptive. But I haven't seen one thing that I would be like, yeah, that's the guy I want to date my friend. Yeah. Yeah. I also feel, and I think she touched on this a little bit, and you can see it through her like various plastic surgeries. I feel like she has a real confidence issue, Jesse. I think it came from like being with an actual, like verbally abusive husband, like he definitely, like, berated her. And I feel that she doesn't really know like how great she is. And I think then also being on social media, like you get those secret lives fans are so crazy, like so much negativity. So maybe in case somebody told you, Jesse, like you're very pretty, and you have an amazing personality, and like you're a good mom and a good friend, and like a great businesswoman too. And it's like, you don't like need to accept Jordan and Marciano. Like what if Marciano's like a fine good guy? It's impossible. Yeah. But what if he's not? What if he's not? So I just feel like in case somebody's told you that, like you are great. And I could see you having like some real self-confidence and like self-esteem issues after being married to the craziest man on the planet. And like legit, like an evil one too. What sparks a bit of concern for me? Because I'm going to just opera. I'm going to trust my faith that like, I don't know why. I just feel like Marciano might have gotten a bad at it. And he could be like, he's sweet, whatever. Okay. Putting Marciano inside. What sparks a bit of concern for me is like the timeline and getting out. First of all, I think she was married before Jordan, right? And then they, she moved on with Jordan. And then she met Marciano while she's with Jordan. And like, when will the healing start, you know? Right. She needs to be with Jesse Self. A little bit and just like, but like reset, you know? Even if Marciano's like a good guy and potentially right for her, like, this is just like a lot of change. She also has like a young child, like she's children, but what the, her youngest is maybe two years old, like, that's a lot to go through the business, like, but to have babies and then a divorce and then a new man and a new house and another new house. And it's, it's just like a lot. And then also like getting famous. Like, I would just like for her to like settle. Yeah, absolutely. That's my concern. No, it's, it's a valid concern. And we come from a place of like genuine love and concern. But if the story that she's telling, like, is as pargy as it appears, like, that's so cute. The house looks great. He like, if you just watch it like from afar without any part, that's a happy girl jumping to the arms of what I've learned from the secret lives of Mormon wives as you can never believe what's on social media. That's completely fucking true. Yeah, like objectively, I'm happy for these two random people. But when I zoom in and I see it's Marciano, like, I am, I have concerns. I have concerns. Yeah, you don't understand. I want to, but I don't understand. I don't. No, number, number four, which is actually such a crazy story that I couldn't believe the headline that I had to read it to you. And I need you to wait for all the details. Okay. And when you like read the stories when we're in person together, I try not to look at your iPad to like, okay, spoil. So yeah, I have been, I haven't been looking today. Watch Michael Booble and Juve Scots. Juve what? Watch Michael Booble and Scots and properties, brother, Scott, not so we, not so we should know. Okay. Watch their junior hockey team fight for its first championship in 19 years in a raw look at the new series called Home Town Giants. Okay. Okay. Drew Scott from Property Brothers and Michael Booble, have own a junior hockey team. Together. Yeah, more than that, they know what's a junior hockey team? Like a little league? I think it's like, they don't look little. They look medium. Okay. And their team now has a show called Home Town Giants. It's a series that will chronicle the Western hockey league span, Cooper Giants, a junior hockey team that Booble has been a minority owner of since December 2008 and Scott in 2023, as they try for their first championship in 19 years. Must watch, first of all. Like what? Yeah. One thing about me, I have like a list of people who I hate forever and always. And like Michael Booble is at the top of the list. And some people have come off the list, you know? Like Sam Hunt recently graduated. Just the one. No, I feel like I'm sort of like loosening up a little bit on like Robert Hergerback. Like most of the time, I make fun of him. Now it's like a joke. He was separated. Yeah, right. To me, I've seen the Instagram live of Michael Booble. And I will never, ever take him up the list. So no, I won't be supporting this. I won't. Okay, but what do you think about this? If you could like-- Dumb. Caching in on the hockey trend right now. Like, he's a rivalry off campus. And now like the new one icebreakers, like this is like-- And the Olympics. Oh, of course, Quinn, Hughes, Jack, Tate, New Jersey. Yeah, this is just sort of like-- How do these two know each other? Lips from Nightmare Plot Rotation. Properly, but it's just finding themselves in like such high places. So additional. So I, that's during Yom Kippur. I watch 80's like now open door series is on Netflix. Yes, it is. You watch Zoe, Zoe? I watch Zoe's. Because like, I'm, you know, decorating my house. So I was like, oh, I could go for some inzboble. But like, a lot of the ones are not for me. So I only watch a couple. And I watched Zoe in Properties. They have an amazing-- And I had seen theirs on Instagram before. But this was the long video. Like, there was details that I hadn't seen before. Their apartment is so amazing. And it's a real testament to, I think, like her style. Because she's like very quirky. And his, you know-- Keepability. Experience, right. As a contractor and real estate broker to the stars. You have to-- if you haven't watched the whole thing, and it's cool that the series is now on-- I saw Kendall Jenner's face and I was like, oh, what's that? I watched BB Rex's. No. No, I didn't. I watched Rita Ora. Yep. I'm cracking up like common mistake. No, classic. It doesn't mix up. Rita Ora is just so fabulous. And she gets like a bad rap ever since she like, kind of, spoke to my soul on the math center. No, I know she was so nice to you. She was so nice. She said she-- I love your podcast. I was like, this is still right. So nice. Obviously, like, you know, her career shook out. And like, ways we didn't think it was going to. I think she kind of become like the butt of a joke sometimes, but she's really like a nice lady. But didn't she marry really well? Yes, she did. So she's like, not that serious for her. And so she was showing off her house in London, but it's like really like a home. And it looks like something out of a story book, because she bought it from this artist, Arthur Rackham. So you're probably like, who's that? But if you look at all the fairy tales, like Grim's brother fairy tales, he did all the illustrations. And it was just so charming. Yeah, she lives well. It was just such an interesting episode. And then I watched Gweneth's. Have you watched Gweneth's? No. It was insane. She showed us a couple rooms like her kitchen and her foyer. Did she say what she lives as a monocedo? Where does she live? She didn't say, but I think that's her monocedo house. Because she had talked about Inel in their LA home. They had done this. And this was their new house that they built from the ground up. And they have like a spa. They have a whole spa, cold sponge hot tub, everything. It was just insane. I need to watch that. Yeah, because she is the blueprint. Like everybody is like all the farm to table. Like she is that girl. Like she is OG growing her own food and cold plunging and master cleansing. Like she really invented that genre. Yeah, no. Her house is amazing. She had like the wall of food plates. Like it's just really. Oh, so anyways, back to property. A matter of respect for property. Yeah, no, he really showed off his talents. And I don't know, do they still property? Like are there new HGTV shows? I used to be like so in the HGTV universe. And then like the hacks kind of ruined it. Or what's their last name? Elmo says-- The property, brother, show is like, like low. In the totem pole of HGTV stars, like they were not-- So like the projects they were doing were what? Like just like general hometown. It flips, you know, $100,000 budget. That's not our budget. Yeah, but the apartment, like the mill work, everything was just at such a high level and that was him. And I was like, oh, I didn't know you could do that. And that. Yeah, no. I think that maybe like the experience that got them a reality show was different than what they ended up doing on the reality show. Because reality shows really for all Americans to see themselves, well, I could do that with my house. I saved this amount of money. But maybe they are like true artisans in their craft. And now they have a lot of characters. They have a lot of characters. Absolutely will not be watching this. Hockey is the next frontier you've got. It is. I just feel like people are like slapping hockey on their shows now just to make it like he did rivalry or off campus. But it's like-- Also, it's a mix of like off campus and that can actually show. Oh. Or like that Ryan Reynolds football show, Rexham? Oh yeah, that too. But like about pair, I don't-- I don't mean moms. Yeah. I feel like people barely want to go to their own kids. Do you know what that means? Let them watch someone else's. I ain't watching. This is for you. Oh, look at this picture of Michael Buble, who like kind of grew out his hair in like a curly little fashion. And that property, brother. [BLANK_AUDIO] There were two property brothers obviously. Well, there's actually three but nobody talks about the third one and in the TV show There was one who was like sort of like the manly contractor who was like always wearing like a belt That's the one who married Zoe De Chanel This one I apologize. I don't know either of their names. I know John drew in a Jonathan. I think this is Jonathan No, it's true. I'm looking at the headline. Okay, and he was sort of like the more dapper He was the real estate agent who would like find the properties and being and he was always like dressed sort of like Metro sexual So they they were actually very I don't know if they're twins That's a throwback work. Well, I don't know how else to say it. Like he was always like very like Refined like whereas like the other brother was like in a lumberjack shirt. Yeah, sling and sled track I understood what you meant. It was good. But nobody uses that word anymore. It's a great word Not gay because we all know what you meant. Yeah, of course. It's like swav. Yeah, and Obviously, Zoe De Chanel went for like the more masculine Yeah Also, just in a side note that I saw in the comments yesterday that I had to mention is that when we were talking about the hairspray live cast Oh, yeah, I was really nearly perfectly cast Derek Huff was corny Collins and that's an amazing count which is fucking perfect. It's an that is an amazing idea. So congrats to whoever did that They've hid that Hairspray live. You can't find it really yeah because it was like just so Like not what it should have been. I don't think you can watch it But if anybody knows where we could find I mean, I guess you can find everything on Amazon Prime Yes But like on YouTube somebody filming it with their phone. We need to watch it. 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Yeah, yeah, that was just like taking the character for them comic and doing their own thing Oh, it has nothing to do with like the show that we all watched in the night Melissa Joan Melissa Joan Hart and that queen titular Sabrina that queen who was on Lessons of dancing with the stars, right the aunt There were two ants like one who was really tall and one who was like shorter. Yeah, the shorter one was on Dancing with the star. Yeah, and remember her one of her friends and family was Alec Baldwin. Oh, no, he was there for hilarious I didn't mean that up. She had an interesting thing. She was on this last. Yes, she was Beth Broderick. No, the other one. Read me the names. Caroline Raes. Yes, Caroline Raes was on dancing with the stars Bella last name R-A-G-A. Yeah, dancing this last year that I watched Hmm No, I'm making that up and remember this auntie. She was on season 30. You remember this auntie That's the one That's Caroline Rae. Oh, I love her. Yeah Was she tall on dancing with the stars like am I actually making that Guys why I'm what's that called Mandela effect like why do I think that well see what she's been up to just school her Maybe you saw her somewhere else like did she come as someone's friend of like I'm so confused like I would have taken That's my grade. Melissa Joan Hart was she on dance with the stars Why do I have a memory of Caroline R-H-E-A being on dancing with the stars in the last two years I Feel like really spooked your mind these tricks on you like Sabrina My mind is telling I know exactly the kind of memory you mean. This is from chat chat. It's like always patronizing me Like just tell me Caroline Rae has not been in contestant on dancing with the stars There are a couple possible reasons why your brain might create a this you may be thinking of Caroline Rae and another competition show No, she was original host of the biggest loser. That's my green There has been some extremely Caroline Rae adjacent contestants recently Did you official I feel like I'm going nuts Maybe someone will know what you mean please please someone know what I mean or like I actually need to go to hospital I'm having exactly like that's insane. Well, Sabrina Castin in the 30 year anniversary live will give fans the chance to see the cast together again as they revisit the series through stories from behind the scenes favorite. So I guess they're going on tour, but I guess it will be sort of like a icon like a Comic-Con type of thing. It will be a 15-stop reunion tour following their June reunion event in Chicago. It will kick off fittingly on Halloween in Beverly, Massachusetts, just outside Salem. Oh, cute, cute. They love the cat. Salem the cat. We actually watched a lot of Sabrina growing up. So much. And you know what? I when I think of that show, I think like really fondly and really was like a very family-friendly nice show. We loved it. And like she was at pitch with like that finger, you know. Yeah. She's like always in the kitchen with her aunties. Yes. That's us. Literally us. Um, won't be attending, but like happy for them to continue milking. And I hope they all make lots of money because that's obviously like the point of this. Yes. Of course. And like be inspired by the Jonas Brothers. Like it's never too late or too long to do a nostalgia tour. I'm having tissue because I've generally said this again, but like every now and then because the Jonas Brothers go on tour like once every year, one every day, when they do go on tour, like it hits my TikTok. And I'm like, I gotta go. It looks so good. So Joe, Joe, it's like serenading this girl. And I was like, so jealous. I need to go. I think they're here soon. Really? Yeah. Like any day now. Look it up. Oh, I would totally go to that. Like us going to Roscoe flats. But we will. And me going to Bruno Mars. I'll be there. Jonas Brothers concert near me. I would love to go. Yeah. Those days when we were broke. I can't. Yeah. Oh, your friend. Yeah. Like we go to concerts together and we have a lot of fun together. They are going to be in Miami on October 5th. No, that's insane. Like six days. Let's go. Like kind of soon. Oh, Craig, yeah. Because you literally said you want to go so bad night in six days, we can go. And you don't want to go. Yeah. What's, do you know the Kassaya centers that we went into the Ringling brothers? I think it is. It was actually like a lovely facility. You didn't go to the Kassaya. No, cause Max is so little. Oh, my God. Girl, you miss out on one of the where shows of all time. It's such good food. All right. Let's see our tickets. Oh, but it was the same food. Oh, my God. The food was so good. You're so right. Well, how do you spell Kassaya? Katzai K-A-S-E-Y-A. I think when they go on tour so much, like the tickets really shouldn't be expensive, right? Yeah, we should go. Okay. When is it? Let's get the burn it up VIP lounge package. 1,000%. We need a lounge. Is it on Monday? Okay, fifth. October 5th is Monday. It's kind of is not going to work. It's kind of crazy. I can't go to a concert and then like go to work in the morning. I'm 30 years old, like we'll have to discuss. We'll have to take off Tuesday. Okay. So do you guys want us to go or no? Yeah. Let us know down in the comments. All right. Let's go to your toasters because we are past officially our 1 hour mark, which means today's just going to be in a lofty and it's fine. Like we knew we could do it. We believed we could. I wasn't even watching the clock. Oh, we need to. I never watch a clock. Today's no. Dear toasters is our weekly advice segment every Tuesday. I can not try to help out our community. You know, you guys will offer us to support our show and we try to get back. Let us go to the Jonas brothers and take a half. Yeah. And we try to get back. You know, I feel that a lot of you guys are probably going through stuff of your own. So right into us, we can help you. Like it's going to be like old Jewish mother type of advice, but that's kind of the advice to me which is neat. So dear [email protected]. That's the email you can write in. Of course your like name information is always anonymous. You can also if you're extra paranoid. Just go to our website, the toastpodcast.com. And there's a submission box. You don't need to put your email or anything, but they both go to the same place. So you have an equally good chance of getting on. Okay. Hey, it's fairly. I love you guys. We recently have been seeing a younger guy. He's one and a half years younger than me, which is not something I would usually go for. He's extremely complimentary, very generous, kind and outgoing. When we go out, he talks to every other person he needs, which me annoying, but it's mostly endearing. The other night we went to dinner in Vegas at the win. We were sitting at the bar. He began talking to the couple next to us. They were ending their meal and their server was picking up their plates, which had the remnants like two slices of a cut filet on it. My date told the waiter to give him the plate and he proceeded to finish the leftovers on the people's plates next to us. And as I watched in disgust, we had amazing chemistry and we've been amazing time together. But I actually don't think I can let this go. Do I need to ghost him? You don't need to ghost him. But let's talk about the act itself. Yeah. Because obviously when I hear this, like I would assume that this person's like on the balls of their ass, like this is something you only do when like you're really like at a desk per place in your life financially. Like you can't afford your meal. But you guys are at the win, like in Vegas, having like a couple's retreat. Did he leave the room last night and like, like lose all of his money at the casino table? Because like this is what you do when you're in distress financially. But he's not. But I'm getting the bite that he's not. This is just like a behavior of his, which is almost worse, which is crazy. You don't eat like in no world of a stranger's place. It's just an okay thing to do for a million reasons, safety. What if this person had her piece? Did you use their fork? Like it's insane. Like it's so disgusting. And I hate to write people off because it's hard to get a boyfriend. Especially you seem to have a great time together and you took you to the win. Like I don't like to write people off because like one moment, but I feel that this is a flag so red that there's almost nothing. But what does it speak to? A mental illness. Not that we shouldn't date mentally ill people. They just love love too. But do you want to go on that journey? Like a lack of decor. I'm an understanding. I think you can speak to him and be like, that really. Yeah. I think about him is great. And he just has this one like very off behavior that no one ever told him was not something that we do in play society. Then you can be the one. At least give it a shot and see if he like is receptive or so defensive. That's so optimistic. I would say let it go because I think like it's probably born from just like a communal feeling of his he thinks these people are his friends now I would eat off my friends the last piece of steak they're like talking to them at the dinner and everything. Oh, I guess, but like I almost feel like he's only chatting with people like to get their food. Well, that if you really want to look into it maybe, but then I would just be worried about going home to his family because this is obviously like someone who was raised wrong. And then these are going to be your in-laws. I just feel like savior of the trouble. He's a fucking crazy. I think you can talk to him because if you're going to break up with him anyway, I just won't give it a shot. Some people can't be spoken to honestly. She likes him so much. It's hard to get a guy. I can't believe he would write him off just back. This is so crazy. You're not even being dramatic. If anyone in your life did this, you would never get it. I would just if I would crack up. Lie your liar pants on fucking fire. It's like if Ben did it. If Ben did it. He would get his ass. But he wouldn't like leave him. We're married with children. And honestly, I would consider it like that's insane. I think you're so underreacting to this. I just think he does. It's how the world works. And it's up to you to show him. Well, unless he was seriously like Jacob Tremblay raised in a room, there's no excuse beyond being Jacob Tremblay. That's it. You know, some people are just too familiar with others. And I don't think that's something that like is a complete deal breaker at this moment. I'd love anyone in the food service industry to sound off in the comments. Like do you guys see this a lot? Yeah. People really do waste so much food. Yeah. And it's obviously unfortunate because it's really for health reasons. It's so unsanitary. I'm sorry. Divorce. Break up. You don't need to go to him and you would tell him why. But I think if you're going to break up with him, just at least try and see if he would stop it. Find it a man. Hey, Swellie. I'm pretty sure my boyfriend is gay. Well, you've come to the right place. But I don't know how to go about it. He does some girly things. But okay, some men are just a little more feminine. He recently asked me what would you do if I was gay? I replied, I'd break up with you. He got really upset. He started crying and told me I was making him anxious. I obviously don't want to do a gay guy, but I also don't want to accuse him something or make him feel ashamed of his feelings. You didn't accuse him of anything. I think I would feel guilty about lying or trying to make something up to get out of the relationship. Thanks. Like you're being really considerate and you've got to go. Like for a million reasons, like you already thought he was a little bit gay and then he literally told you he said to you, what would you do if I was gay? And that's not a coincidence. And then I just want to let you know, that's not something people say. It's not like what would you do if I grew an extra toe? Like if I was a world. Yeah. Right. That's not the same as what would you do if I was gay. Like because obviously if you find out your partner is gay, like you don't stay with them because you're not longer compatible. It's not like one of those typical quirky relationship questions. He basically came out to you, which is very sweet. He trusts you and you should wish him the best and move on with your life. Do not waste one more moment. And I know that you're writing to us, be like, how can I untangle myself from this in such an ethical, like you're being so sweet and like considerate. Um, and girl, just go, girl, just go, save yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like people forget what the point of the relationship is red. It's like being love and have sex and like when the person's gay, that's sort of just like throws a wrench in that. We can be friends. Best friends. But like the relationship purpose, yeah, sort of dissolved. And I feel that you're wasting your time, like even thinking about like how to politely untangle yourself from this web, like just go and it's a boyfriend, like, it's a boy, walk out the door. Just like seriously go, walk out the door. You need to run. I don't think he's like a danger. No, no, but also even if he's not gay, like any guy who like, when you're arguing, not even arguing, they're having a conversation, he's start trying and you're making me anxious, wait, you're making me anxious from a conversation that you started to you out of nowhere. You're the craziest question ever. So pick it. That is it 1000%. So like even if he was a gay, he sucks. I asked you an impossible question to answer. And your response to it has made me anxious. And your response was so honest and beautiful, like obviously I would break up with you. Yeah. I'm not the white woman for you. You should want me to break up with you, if you were a guy. I'll be doing you a favor, setting you up in your journey. Unique. I'm sorry that happened to you. This last one's so sick. Hey, Swellies, I need help deciding if I should confront my fiance or not. He's a sweet just walk out the door. Yeah, you can't just know like you have roots here. Yeah, it's a set the ring But you're not you're not trapped and like are you losing a deposit, you know There's a lot of money like there are a lot of things to consider. Well, that could be with a boyfriend, too He's a sweet angel of a man. He loves me so much and so well. I can't wait to marry him, but I look through his pictures the other day and in this hidden photo album where he only keeps my nudes Was four pictures of his cousin in a bikini. I don't have an issue with him finding other women attractive or even watching porn But he can you don't have to explain that you're being like way too generous. You don't do I do That is Seriously disturbed like that's fucking twisted. I think having a album of nude photos of you Where any other person is in that album like I would be like like of course we're taking this to another level when it's a Cousin, but I was I was prepared for like his exes and there and he just throws files them all to nudes and he doesn't delete them because like yeah some people don't Delete them now I am and I was ready to start of a due to get on that this just a wrench He's a whole nother Volga, especially because when I think of like a hidden album like I know what those photos are used for right? And so it was the cousin a part of that Let's stop asking the obvious question. Oh, you think that's obvious. Okay. I thought I was being like really smart I'm just like too painful for us to think yeah, like this is a family show. I Don't even know like if you should confront him because like it is I don't think that this can be misunderstood in any way It's not like it was like a photo of her high school graduation that accidentally entered up the album. It's a bikini photo And this is an album of nude photos. So You have a fiance who like is attracted to his cousin that sort of yes matter of fact That's where I'm isn't afraid to admit it to himself true a lot of people would like not put it in the folder But go look at it. No more just like put it out of their mind. Okay, like many people have a hot cousin like but it's your cousin Seth most cat Seth most Cascades. Yeah, and then I was gonna as his first cousin for second cousins Xenia for cousin, but even so because even if it's a second kind of looking fine tonight Seth most Cascades. That's your cousin. Yeah, but he's my first cousin It's also bad if he if it's a second or a third cousin someone he could legally marry because now He's looking at a woman. Yeah, of course But then obviously the ancestral element makes it worse. It's so bad. It's so bad He is your fiance sure you can bring it up and like give him a chance to explain like me It's just enough fucking lie through his teeth This what's he gonna say is really gross and I feel like when you even it's unsettling when you entertain the concept of Incessed into your life even in like a sort of removed kind of way. It's a dark path that leads to other Sins. Yeah, it's sinful. What he's doing. It's kind of textbook and I should not bet a moral turpentine And also like if he were to act on it to crime as well, you know So it's actually a crime that he has those photos in a private album amongst news like I don't know that should be a crime I were supposed to be getting her advice like we're just making her feel worth Um, I really don't know how to help you because obviously I would say like this is a deal breaker It's in a relationship and they're of course and we're we never press that button like we always joke about it But what really try to make things work? We try to be understanding of people but like there's nothing like nothing you could understand So what I was gonna say is like what if he's like actually the most perfect perfect person like generous And some like loving whatever and he just has this like one thing but instead. I'm not gonna say that I'm gonna say this well I just want to say because if it was that one thing that one thing leads to other things So it's not just like it ends with the cousin and the photo instead. I'm gonna say this Can you make a list of other bad things about him like we need to build up the caseload for why You're going to leave him. So I actually don't think you do need to build up the case So like I think the photo of the cousin in the hidden album is enough But that someone could say, you know No, so you can't what you think Well, so ask him and if there is like by the grace of God like the most plausible explanation of all time Then you're fine. No, it's so bad like engage and like I know it feels so bad. Yeah, cuz like a chisous art over So I'm just trying to like what's worse starting over after an engagement or finding out your husband likes his cousin I don't know Color me Nia, but I feel that you know you're getting out early. Yeah, you could have found this out while you were pregnant So many worse alternatives you sound like a beautiful woman. I'm so sorry This is happening. Oh from the bottom of my heart. You have my deepest sympathies and you have to break up with it And it's also like almost even harder that they're engaged because if it was a boyfriend, of course And if you see your husband like you do want to try and like work through Like under choices like the the engaged position makes it like really hard. I know today We're kind of three for three for telling them to break up with their wife friends Not me on number one me on all three and that feels good really it doesn't feel good when you have to say it I don't like that out now. I like working through the issues now like the plate thing versus the cousin thing It makes the plate thing seem like not a big deal, but it is It's not it is Thank you to everybody who wrote and you guys found out if you think the plate thing is like The ultimate deal breaker. Yeah, we're like something we cover through it with an open and willing person of course Everyone was especially vulnerable with us. We appreciate your submission Thank you so much for listening to the toast. The morning show we do the fest stories You need to know about it on YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube Please click to subscribe. You can see the thumbs up or else available is podcast anywhere podcasting me Pound so that's a bad if I tune sit your public video I already cast box all the places we'll be listening podcast matters to see if I survive you had a beautiful standing and like a dad But goodly talented. We are hope you have an amazing day. We'll see you tomorrow. Love you. Bye

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Jackson and Claudia discuss their new electric red pickup truck, sharing both excitement and embarrassment over parking mishaps.
  2. They reflect on shifting priorities in their lives, choosing safety and practicality over luxury, with a clear shift toward a Volvo for its reliability and understated elegance.
  3. A major personal moment is their desire to celebrate Olivia’s successful pregnancy journey, acknowledging their earlier jealousy and now embracing genuine joy and sisterhood.
  4. The duo criticizes public figures, particularly therapists and teachers, for making TikTok content in professional settings, citing privacy violations and emotional harm.
  5. They express concern over Jesse Draper’s new relationship with Marciano Brunette, questioning the authenticity of the public narrative and its impact on Jesse’s well-being.
  6. A surprising news item is the Netflix documentary on Matthew Perry, which explores his sobriety journey and long-term struggles with drugs and fame.
  7. They highlight Skims cotton products as essential for comfort, especially during pregnancy, and promote other brands like Got to Be, Ladder, and Egg Life for daily lifestyle needs.
  8. The episode ends with a mix of humor, vulnerability, and social commentary, emphasizing personal growth, privacy, and the importance of grounded choices in parenting and relationships.

Summary:

Jackson and Claudia reflect on a series of personal and societal topics in their latest episode. They share an emotional journey of growth, especially regarding their new electric vehicle and the challenges of parking, which leads to feelings of embarrassment and a deeper appreciation for practicality. Their decision to prioritize safety over style—choosing a Volvo over a Range Rover—mirrors a broader shift in parenting priorities, emphasizing stability and responsibility.

A heartfelt moment involves acknowledging their earlier jealousy toward Olivia’s pregnancy and now recognizing the joy and sisterhood that has developed. They also voice strong concerns about professionals like therapists and teachers making content on social media, arguing it violates privacy and causes emotional harm. The episode touches on controversial real-life stories, including Jesse Draper’s new relationship with Marciano Brunette, which they question due to the timeline and emotional strain involved.

They highlight a compelling Netflix documentary on Matthew Perry’s life, focusing on his struggles with addiction and sobriety. Throughout, they promote a range of lifestyle brands—Skims for breathable cotton clothing, Got to Be for hair care, Ladder for fitness, and Egg Life for high-protein wraps—as practical tools for everyday life. The tone blends humor, vulnerability, and social critique, underscoring themes of personal accountability, privacy, and the complexity of modern relationships.

The episode ends with a sense of grounded reflection, showing how personal experiences and public narratives intersect in unexpected ways.

FAQs

Jackson is considering a Volvo, specifically the CX90, because it's known for being one of the safest cars and aligns with his desire for a practical, reliable vehicle over a flashy or expensive one.

He struggled with parking due to poor positioning and felt embarrassed when a woman in a Ford Expedition stopped to talk to him, making him feel unconfident and out of place in a stressful situation.

He once admired Range Rovers as a symbol of success and cool moms, but found them unreliable and problematic in real life, leading him to reject them in favor of safety and practicality.

He praised Skims cotton products, especially the fold-over pan and cotton rib tank, calling them soft, comfortable, and perfect for everyday wear, including lounging and running errands.

He believes it's inappropriate, especially in professional settings, as it can compromise privacy and trust, particularly when content involves personal or sensitive topics like therapy or classroom environments.

It symbolizes a shift in priorities from luxury and style to safety and practicality, especially as a new parent, and reflects a deeper personal growth in values and decision-making.

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