2957: Cardio Rebranded | Why Every New Fitness Trend Is Just the Same Old Cardio
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The podcast discusses how cardio has been rebranded through trendy, low-intensity workouts like cozy walking, Japanese walking, and rucking—marketing them as effective for fat loss and aesthetic changes. However, these activities are largely ineffective for body composition goals and are misaligned with what most people truly want: a lean, sculpted physique. The hosts emphasize that strength training is far more effective than cardio for building muscle, boosting metabolism, and achieving visible results. While zone two cardio burns a higher percentage of fat, it doesn’t burn more total calories, and high-intensity or extreme workouts are often just cardio with added stress or weight. The real success factor is consistency, which comes from choosing a workout one enjoys and can sustain. The hosts also promote Rho Nutrition’s liposomal supplements for better absorption and fewer digestive issues, and introduce their new MAPS, ABS, and BUTT program as a strength-based, body-shaping solution. Ultimately, the message is clear: prioritize strength training, enjoy your routine, and avoid being misled by flashy cardio trends that promise results without delivering them.
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Cardio got rebranded and yeah, a lot of you fell for it. Look, fitness just discovered walking and
running again, but they gave it a new logo. This year it was the weighted backpack. Last year it
was a treadmill, you know, 12, three 30. The year before it was zone two. The activity didn't change.
It was the marketing. We're going to talk all about this right now. Let's get to it.
Oh, the team was sharing some of these that I was so unaware of. There's a ton of these
on TikTok that I didn't, I didn't even know this existed. I know that we're not
surfing through TikTok very often. At least I'm not. No, I'm never on TikTok. So when Eli was
listing these off, I'm like, what? Yeah. That's a thing. I didn't even know that was a thing. Are
you aware of all these different trends? No. And I have, we have some of them written down
and I was not aware. Yeah. We need to go through these. Yeah. So we'll talk about them, but I think
it's important. We got to really set the stage here. First off, there's nothing wrong with
cardio. Okay. So cardiovascular training is really good at building endurance and stamina.
It's a tool. It's good for your heart health. It's a form of exercise that does it. And all
forms of exercise done appropriately will improve your health in comparison to not doing any
activity. So there's nothing wrong with cardio, but the vast majority of people,
that are doing lots of cardio or doing the workouts we're going to talk about,
the rebranded cardio, are not really interested in lots of endurance and stamina. Now there's
athletes out there, they train for runs, they train for sports. They are really after endurance.
That makes up a very small sliver of a percentage of the group, of the large group of people that
are doing these types of workouts. The vast majority of people, large percentage of the,
of the, the people that do this, probably 95% plus. And you walk around and you're like,
I don't know if you're watching, probably follow, uh, in this category. You do this for aesthetic
changes. You're doing this for things like fat loss. You're doing this because you want to change
the way that you look. Uh, and cardio is not the best, most effective form of exercise for doing
that. Uh, but it promises to, and it makes you sweat and it's hard. And what they did is they
took cardio and they change it around here and there, uh, to convince you that this is going
to burn more body fat. This is going to give you better, like visual results, better results.
It's on the scale type of deal. So that's, we're kind of going to talk about, I'd say there's even
a lot of people. Cause I, I have quite a few people in my own personal circle that would
say things like, uh, they want, uh, stamina and endurance too, but then their primary goal is
still aesthetics. So I think that's the thing that you have to make clear. Cause there's this idea of
like, well, I want, I want it. I want endurance and I want stamina too. Uh, but they're still
utilizing it thinking it's a good, it's a good way to do both is what they think. I think, okay,
I also want a six pack abs or I want to get shredded or whatever the thing is that they're
saying. Uh, and so they're using that modality, uh, in order to do, to try to accomplish both
when they're there, it's a tool and it's not the most appropriate tool for each one of those goals.
No. And I'll say this, I'll add to that, Adam. Um, if I can effectively communicate, uh, with
actual data and experience that yes, you want to change the way you look, you want to get leaner,
you want to get more sculpted. There are better, way more effective ways of
exercise for that. Do you still want to do the cardio? And they'll say, no, actually,
it's really the aesthetic that I'm looking for. I do want to get in better shape, but you could
do that with a more effective forms of exercise, especially when you consider the aesthetic. So
here's a few of these and I'm not even familiar. Can we have Doug look some of these up? Cause I'm
so curious. Yeah. So, uh, I never heard a cozy cardio. What is cozy? It sounds like if I had a
guess, it sounds like you wake up, you wake up in your pajamas and you just go do a walk.
I think it's just walking. You're partly right. So it's at home, low impact exercise
that prioritizes comfort, a relaxed atmosphere and joyful movement over in high intensity strain.
Oh, so it's like you, you set up your vibe, you light some candles, you dim the lights,
you wear your pajamas, your robe and slippers. Yeah. Watch a movie while you're doing it.
Okay. Sip on your, uh, you know, your, I mean, that's definitely alluring.
I mean, that's definitely alluring and it's better than not moving at all.
Is it a great form of exercise for change to see how many people actually, uh, adopted and do it
like when I'm like putting your, putting your robe on or having your, it can't be very intense
movement wise though. Oh, it's definitely not that it's supposed to be. Yeah. This is all of
these that are listed are, are more closely related to neat than they are. Uh, cardio. Yeah. Uh, cardio. Yeah. This is
up in your robe and slippers, uh, and lighting some candles, uh, get you to move more than just
sitting and washing. But I would, I would think that a lot of people would, uh, fancy this a good
idea, but then in reality, it wouldn't be something they would adopt. Now, look, I could see how this
would be a good first step. So if somebody was listening and they're not doing any exercise at
all, they're scared of working out, um, or they have no experience with it. Their lifestyle is
extremely sedentary. Maybe they have a bad experience with workouts where they went too hard.
I could see this being a good first step. I could see this
being valuable. It's a good first step. You're getting up and you're moving. Yeah. Uh, there's
a self-care, uh, especially for that home body, you know, getting them up and moving. It's great.
It's good for health. Uh, but again, if, if you're looking for like aesthetic changes,
like, uh, there are better, more effective ways of exercise, namely strength training.
Okay. What's the next one? Next one, Japanese walking. This one's funny. So it's three
minute brisk walk, three minute easy walk, and then repeat this five times for 30 minutes. Why
do they call it Japanese walking? You lived in Japan. Is this like a thing? Not that I'm aware of.
Okay. Um, but maybe it started there. I hope so. It's like a light, really light form of hit.
So it's really just, it's really just walking and you walk a little faster and then a little
slower. Yeah. That's what you're doing. Walking's great. There's nothing wrong with
undulating. You're walking well known as interval walking training. It's IWT. It's even got an
acronym. Oh, that's why it was developed by science back fitness. Okay. Shinshu Shinshu
university graduate school of medicine in Japan. Okay. All right. I mean, I like it. So they're
just regular walking. Yeah. Which is cool. Actually breaks it up a little bit. It does.
It does. Yeah. Good for health. Um, so cool. That's cool. It is so crazy how they're branding.
I know. I've heard, I've not heard of these. There's the three to eight method. Okay. This
was three days of strength. Wait, wait, wait. The six, six, six walk. Oh, I missed that one.
Sorry. Let's go back. What is that? That's a demon walk. Walk 16 minutes at 6am or 6pm
with a six minute warmup and a six minute cool. That's just somebody threw things together.
Yeah. They're like, there's what's the, why, why six sticks with six? Well, I mean, that's when you
start your day or in your day. So I can see value in that. Cause I'm, I'm pro first thing in the
morning when you wake up going for a walk or ending your day with a nice walk after probably
dinner and stuff. So, and you got a six minute warmup, six would be before that part of it is
kind of like a six minute. Okay. I mean, a lot more into the seven, seven, personally, it's very
branding for sure. Uh, does it make a difference when you walk? Not really. Maybe behaviorally,
some differences, uh, warming up to walk. I don't think you necessarily need to warm up to walk,
but okay. Maybe someone does cool down. I don't know. How do you cool down from walk? Usually
walking is the cool down. Yeah. That's not. Well, so I guess the, in between the six minute warmup
and the six minute cool down, uh, that time in between right there. So what's that? 48 minutes
is supposed to be brisk walking instead of the Japanese slow walking brisk. Yes. And then slow.
Yeah. But you're brisk walking for 48 minutes. So that's,
This is a little bit more, I'd say this is getting closer
to like a zone two type of market.
like if you're i mean look i'm a fan of walking it's low risk low risk of injury don't need to
change your clothes and workout clothes it's a great form of activity it's not high stress so
even if you're doing it in a caloric deficit we're not risking a lot yeah no i'm a fan okay all right
then you have the 328 method uh that's three days of strength and pilates two days of sculpt and low
impact and 8 000 steps a day i want to know what this three days of strength and pilates is is it
is it strength pilates no three days of strength training that's separate two days of pilates or
bar and then 8 000 steps per day that's a lot it is a lot you actually don't need that at all uh
the average person would get phenomenal results with just the strength training or less strength
training and then add the pilates uh here's the deal like here's the benefits of doing things like
pilates uh physiologically i mean you might get some stability benefits it's not really great at
uh much else if you like the
social component um you like going because your friends go community that is a great value it
really is like going because you enjoy it and there's friends it's totally great does it develop
a body like most people want no uh it doesn't it does there's nothing special about it it's
actually less effective far less effective than other forms of exercise for changing how your body
looks yeah yeah next one is doug's favorite to do right here walk yeah he's big on that one i'm
guessing it's the fart walk because it helps digestion yeah because you're walking this one
right it's supposed to be 10 to 15 minutes we talk
about this we've been talking about this for a long time we didn't call it the fart walk
to me it doesn't sound very inviting or intriguing or interesting try to tell your friend to come
but we have been we've been talking about uh a 10 minute walk post meal i think is is a great
idea so it is great for digestion it it's good for um insulin sensitivity or blood sugar levels
it's really good for that but here's the real benefit of walking post meals is you're doing
what's called habit stacking so behaviorally speaking when you connect something with your
body something to something that you're already doing you're more likely to do it in other words
if i say i'm going to walk 30 minutes a day i'm less likely to be consistent than if i say i'm
going to walk 10 minutes after breakfast lunch and dinner because i've attached it to the things
that i already do so that's why i recommend yeah i think there's other things too that i'm a really
big fan of that typically we are having meals with some companionship whether it be the us four at
work just had a meal and then we go for a walk together so an opportunity for phone-less conversation and dialogue uh my
wife and i do it post meal so it's a time for her and i to connect and so i think there's a lot of
benefits there i mean the habit stacking is a good reason why you'll be consistent with it but i think
you can pair it with other things that i think are health related with conversation and relationship
so this is one of my favorite of all the ones that we're talking about right now and i think when you
when we talk about consistency right the i mean that is the most important thing is like all these
are creative and trendy and gone viral on tiktok but it the real thing is which one is the most
which one of these will you implement into your life and keep forever this is the most likely
smart walk's always best outside that's that's right uh retro walking so that's walking backwards
i mean it's good for you to do that but also dangerous uh i mean i'm trying to think of all
the clients i've trained and how many of them i feel confident with them going on a 15 minute
backwards walk not very many yeah you know yeah like we're yeah i don't know too many people who
want to do that but what's the what is this selling point it flips the
heel to toe pattern i suppose yeah i mean if you're dragging like a sled backwards like that's
different similar component but yeah i mean then you have load to consider which too kind of helps
oh the idea is it burns more calories too moving in reverse requires shorter more frequent strides
this biome this biomechanically shift utilizing hairs 40 percent more energy you walk faster
but yeah you might injure yourself because you're not seeing what's coming yeah probably my lead
maybe the least favorite here yep 100 least favorite for me yeah
i'd say this one in the 666 walking because i think that's a that's just that's just random
stuff that they slapped together yeah i like that i like the incline walking i mean that's my favorite
but see they didn't brand it they have to call it something weird yeah fair yeah so all right yeah
all right uh then we have walking yeah and you know here's the deal there's let's talk a little
bit about zone two and how everybody talks about zone two cardio what it does what it doesn't do
so i recently read a read a post on zone due to cardio so zone
two is kind of this moderate intensity uh of of cardio right it's like that it's what you would
consider the traditional cardio like i'm on an elliptical i'm riding a bike i'm not like going
super hard i'm also not going super super slow yeah uh in between and i read this this it was
it's like they totally rehashed old studies and we've covered that we used to cover this back in
the day this used to be the fat burning zone that's right that's what someone brought up
that the percentage of energy you burn from fatty acid utilization or from fat
burning is higher in zone two than other forms of cardio this is true if you burn 100 calories
in zone two more of it will come from fat than if you burned 100 calories at a very high intensity
but here's the difference high intensity burns so much more calories that you still burn more
body fat yeah that's what they don't uh for that yeah but isn't there a higher risk factor for
somebody who is in a caloric deficit on a higher intensity course zone two oh i don't i don't mind
yeah to me that's the the most i think we can get in the weeds with the percentage of of body fat
being utilized at zone two versus high intensity when the big thing that people need to understand
is that when you're in a caloric deficit and then you push the body really hard you that you're
you're sending a loud signal the body that it needs to get good at endurance and stamina
uh having muscle is not advantageous no and so the likelihood that you could potentially
lose muscle mass because of that is greater than if you were to be in a caloric deficit and choose
say walking or zone two type of correct the other part is uh the stress factor so when i when
someone's in a caloric deficit right their ability to handle and adapt to stress exercise is lower
you just have less nutrients right so higher impact yeah so when i'm working with a client
uh and i'm managing their stress because they're in a caloric deficit and the stress that i manage
with them is exercise right how intense it is how much we do i
i want the stress to be relegated to the effective form of exercise which is strength training
so i don't want to take away from that by also having them do intense cardio now if i'm training
an athlete that's different because we need that endurance and stamina but if i'm training the
average person who's like look i want to get lean i want to look good i'm in a caloric deficit i'm
not going to slap more stress on their body right in the form of hard cardio if i'm going to add
stress anywhere it's going to be strength training yeah because it takes away from the strength
that's a hundred percent that's correct uh then we have rucking which is um this is
hiking with a heavy backpack yeah unless like again this is where it's like if if you if your
job requires this right or like you're in the military or your firefighter or whatever right
but other than that i think people are um they're doing this out of the thought process they're
gonna burn more calories that's right which in fact like you know this creates a different type
of movement pattern which now like i'm not a fan of this because of that yeah no i think this whole
category that we're going over is this is the part where i think people have really been fooled is
all of these things that you're about to list and go over have been marketed to people as a great
way to get in good aesthetic shape that's right and it and it's just none of them are a great
strategy for that and it's not the proper tool for what most people are utilizing if you're getting
ready to go train for uh hiking and going somewhere backpacking uh rucking that makes perfect sense
rucking's number one or maybe you're a firefighter and you need to carry gear and you need to train
to be able to carry a 50 pound or military and you got to do so that makes total in fact this is
where this has been adopted from is military training uh and getting these uh soldiers ready
to be able to carry these heavy bags on there and so there's this idea that these soldiers are
badass and they're in shape and therefore me doing this this is a great way for me to get in shape
and it's just it's not the most ideal tool at all
for somebody who is that is desiring a fit strong physique to get in shape and so it's just an
extreme version of the weighted vest that we used to see in other words in short if you want to work
out to look really good and look your best there's far more effective ways to exercise if you want to
get really good at hiking with a backpack rucking is great but it is not the other one it's not the
other one right next we have high rocks which by the way high rocks has been in the been in the
news a little lately wasn't there a competition oh god where some girl pooped herself
she did yeah and it's again ultra marathon runners and this is very common in that kind
of setting but yeah she because she won and just kept carrying on how bad do you want to win is what
i got yeah that's something like that that's it high rocks uh when i see high rocks i think it
was an answer to crossfit crossfit light yeah so it's like crossfit with less injury potential
you saw a lot of that community move over there also another you know great modality for uh
stamina endurance if that is your main goal again like crossfit
it's been branded in a way where people are utilizing it to get in shape to look
better and it's just not a good strategy for that if you want great endurance and that's the main
focus uh and and or you love the fun competition and sport of it uh nothing wrong with it here's
why you should do high rocks if you love you should do high rocks if you love high rocks
if you love competing in high rocks it's fun for you you enjoy it this is a sport that you love
then go train high rocks if you want to exercise high rocks you should do high rocks if you love
exercise to look a particular way and you want to you don't want to waste time in other words you
want an effective efficient way of exercise to accomplish a body composition goal uh then high
rocks is
not the best way to exercise no uh it is a sport so if you want to compete in the sport then you
have to train in that sport but if you want and here's now here's a challenge people will look at
top athletes from sports and say i want to look like that athlete therefore i'm going to train
the way that athlete does what you need to understand at the top level of all sports what
you have what you have are polymorphisms that fit well with that sport so what you're going to have
are people that tend to hold more muscle anyway that tend to perform well and tend to be built to
do well at that sport so my best example is swimming top top level swimmers have really
long torsos and really short legs and really long arms swimming all the time is not going to make
your torso longer your legs shorter and your arms longer it doesn't work that way it's just
they were built to swim plus they train to swim yeah and there you go now they're the best but
high rocks isn't going to get you in the best looking shape but high rocks training will get
you good at high rocks right essentially right right uh orange theory this one adam has experience
in yeah
yeah i think orange theory f45 they fall in the same category right here which is these
you know circuit based weight training programs where we throw weights in there and so people
believe that their strength training and they're building muscle it's just different forms of
cardio especially orange theory because orange theory through a competitive element in there
where they encourage people to chase the the zones yeah and every and anybody that's ever
taken that class is familiar with this where you're trying to get all these points by being
higher zones which is higher heart rate and so it it it encourages you to do the the weights with
low rest periods so you keep your heart rate elevated so you score more points that's right
and so i remember coaching and like trying to get the class to stop and rest and it was so hard
especially in a class it's hard to do that one-on-one it's even harder to do that in a class
setting to get people to adhere to the rest periods because they want to see they had their
huge tv with their name on it with their
heart rate and they're getting their points and i get more points i keep my heart rate up
and so yeah it encourages them to do that now in theory uh no pun intended they the idea of the the
modality was that you'd have a form of cardio and then you'd go over and you do traditional strength
training it just doesn't happen it's not traditional strength training no it's it's it
moves them in this round robin circuit where they go from the treadmill to the circuit training to
the rower to the treadmill to the circuit for an entire hour with no stopping no real rest
and that's just cardio with weights that's it here's the benefit to in my opinion for orange
theory and f45 if you really love the community you're with your friends you don't really care
about whether or not you're working on the most effective way for aesthetic changes or
other goals you're just like i just like to go and hang out with my friends and do this thing
you better be happy with you better be happy with the way you look at already is what i would say
because that i can't tell you how many people come up to me after those classes and would be
asking questions about losing a certain amount of body fat or wanting to change your body fat
or wanting to change the way they look and i'd be like this is not the way to do it that's right
this is not the the best uh way or approach to do it now if you're already in great shape or very
happy with the aesthetic shape you're in and you because it will give you great endurance and
stamina and it has a great community built into it and so if you love the camaraderie you love the
shape you're in from it then by all means keep doing it but what i found was a majority of people
wanted more wanted something else or the other flip that i see with classes like f45 and orange
is because it's this uh you know repetitive movements a lot of uh joint and uh joint pain
and issues so you got to watch for that because you're doing these repetitive high intensity type
movements over and over and over multiple times a week and you're not doing the proper reinforcement
and mobility and working in different planes and so even though they try and challenge you
with different movements exercises in the in the weight training portion of this it's not enough
to address all the aches and pains that people are getting uh the next one they have is the
hot girl walk by the way that is great branding that is really great branding like i'm gonna go do
the hot girl walk so here's what it was it was here dude it's an outdoor walk for four miles
while focusing on gratitude your goals and how you're going to pursue them i mean that sounds
cool that sounds great i feel like this good branding i feel like this falls more though in
the last category yeah it does because this is more like this is more this is walking yeah yeah
i wouldn't put this in zone two uh type of no this isn't just more movement and yeah yeah this is more
walking rebranded um the this category that we just did right now i felt like is more like
cardio rebranded you know orange theory f45s high rocks is rebranded as this great fitness tool or
way to work out or build muscle when in reality it's just cardio rebrand yeah and by i like
gratitude practices i think it's great to do sure while you're exercising while you're walking uh
there's nothing wrong with it it's not this phenomenal way of working out but walking i'm a
body much it's an easy form of activity to add to other more intense stressful forms of exercise so
i'm a big fan i like gratitude the branding is hilarious to me i think it's great so hey by the
way they have hot girl walk like uh like meetups like meetups nice you see that justice to try i
mean i tried to sneak in one oh my god they're like they're really marketed like that there's
a bunch of them which is which is any local over here boy is it it would be organizing a bunch of
dudes like that so hard i know we didn't we we don't organize easily no if i was a single dude
i'd be like showing up yeah if we labeled it the conveniently showing up this is where i'm walking
this is crazy can you have one like a group of guys just giving them water yeah go hot girls
are there where you where are all these at doug uh let's see here they're they're all over the
country it appears i mean how do you say okay here we go nashville there's nashville uh we
it looks like it's brandon you know i gotta tell you guys a little side note i love uh events like
that i really do now i know most of them are marathons and i have my issues with marathon
marathon training and all that but i gotta tell you i've trained clients for marathons and for
events like this and the uh camaraderie the community the atmosphere is phenomenal it's
great it really is it's especially when it's for a cause uh you know you see people running or doing
whatever they're all trying to improve themselves and
you know they connect with other people really easily through these events so it's good i love
it this is interesting it's like it's done uh all over the country on the same on the same day
oh so every wow is there like a virtual component to it before they go on their walk or something
that's interesting i'm super fascinated by this we need a hot dude block yeah
the thing about walking is uh we've all heard the 10 000 steps a day like aim for that the data
actually shows it's closer to seven to eight thousand so this is where you get the maximum
benefits of activity and you can do a lot of things you can do a lot of things you can do
a lot of things you can do and it's not that walking is necessarily this magical form of
exercise i think it's just in comparison to the average person that takes so little steps
yeah that being that just moving right not moving is so bad for you that that you know walking which
is a really easy form of activity has all these health benefits mainly because it's not not moving
but the data shows 8 000 steps is where you get about a majority of the benefits a little bit
more benefits as you go up but the majority is in that 8 000 so aim for that i i personally
think i think i know why that is why is this like you know number seven or eight that's right about
where the difference between like a a really active day for me or a not like so yeah you've
tracked yeah so i've tried like four right so i've tracked a lot and i'm tracking a lot right
now too because i'm trying to increase my steps and uh i actually have to like i have to get on
the treadmill and and at least walk for you know a good solid 30 minutes or so to get to ten thousand
but if i just have a really active day eight thousand i'll land between seven eight thousand
same yeah and if that's just being active that's just being active moving around doing house chores
yeah yeah not like versus you know a day where i just get in my car come here sit in here drive
home and be set and that could easily be a three thousand and so there's this like clear difference
to me it's active versus not i think most people have like a kind of a sedentary job and so us now
sitting like and i think that that nails it on totally seven to eight because i couldn't relate
to that oh yeah
when i was a trainer it was like oh ten thousand was actually yeah yeah on accident you hit ten
fifteen thousand steps with clients and so i could never relate to the average person or job
with the the step thing where now i feel like i can i could easily have a day where i do
twenty five hundred three thousand steps if i just go from car to thing to like that's it
so like for me i can see the difference on like a seven eight thousand day it's just a relatively
active day for me versus a day where i'm really said i think the the the good formula right the
good formula is this there's two ways to look at cardio one is for a some kind of a performance
goal so i want to build endurance i want to build stamina there's that that aspect of cardio and
then the other one is just to be more active okay being more active is very good for your health
endurance goals are also good for your health but it's more specific it's performance okay
just being more active is very easy with cardio to add to other forms of exercise so for example
if i want body composition change if my main goal is i want to be more active i want to be more active
i want to look more sculpted have better shape uh to my body the form of exercise i'm going to
pour my resources into or my time into the one that i'm going to i'm going to use my stress
bucket up on is strength training because strength training i could target shape and build i could
boost my metabolism it's super effective of course at keeping muscle and a calorie deficit
helps me burn body fat and so just being more active can be added to that without
compromising things like recovery or muscle or aesthetics so that's just steps right that's
just steps now on the other hand if it's endurance that you want well now you're playing a game of
okay how do i
i balance out my strength training with my endurance training and i got to make sure i
balance it out so i get a little bit of both i don't get a lot of either but i get a little bit
of both and that's kind of how you would work well would you agree too that there's different
ways that you feel fuel for those two different uh totally things too oh you better eat for
performance if that's what you're training right if you're if your goal is stamina uh you ain't
eating a deficit and endurance like you want to you want to eat at maintenance or surplus and
fuel the body my goal is fat loss and aesthetics than actually being in a caloric deficit and this
is why what type of movement or cardio starts to matter is because if i'm already putting myself
in a caloric deficit uh i'm already kind of maintaining then that that fat burning zone i
don't have to push or stress the body that hard just to continue to increase that versus if i'm
fed totally different story 100 and here's the other thing too the one you enjoy is the one that
you're going to do the most which is always going to be the most effective
you're going to be the most effective
okay period end of story like the workout that you do so long as it's appropriate of course we
gotta we gotta paint that context but the one that you enjoy is the one you're going to do
i don't care how great your workout is if you don't do it it does nothing for you so pick the
cardio and the strength training routine that is the one that you enjoy because that's going to be
the one that you're going to be doing most consistently so here's what we have we have a
guide uh it's called three mistakes people make with hit programs and it kind of shows you how
to use hit cardio high intensity and you're going to be doing that most consistently so
it's called three mistakes people make with hit programs and it's totally free so you can download
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Cardio has been rebranded with trendy, low-intensity workouts like cozy walking, Japanese walking, and rucking, often marketed as effective for fat loss and aesthetics despite lacking scientific backing.
These rebranded cardio trends primarily appeal to aesthetics and convenience, not true endurance or fat-burning efficiency, and are often ineffective for body composition goals.
Strength training is far more effective than cardio for building muscle, improving metabolism, and achieving a sculpted, lean appearance.
Zone two cardio, while burning more fat percentage-wise, is less effective overall in body fat loss compared to high-intensity workouts due to lower total calorie burn.
High-intensity or extreme workouts like rucking, high rocks, or Orange Theory are misbranded as body transformation tools and instead serve as cardio with added weight or competition.
Habit stacking—like walking post-meals—can improve consistency and support digestion and insulin sensitivity, but does not substitute for effective strength training.
The most effective exercise program is the one one enjoys and can consistently maintain, as consistency trumps intensity or trendy branding.
Supplements like Rho Nutrition’s liposomal creatine improve bioavailability and reduce gut issues, making them a better choice for those sensitive to traditional forms.
Summary:
The podcast discusses how cardio has been rebranded through trendy, low-intensity workouts like cozy walking, Japanese walking, and rucking—marketing them as effective for fat loss and aesthetic changes. However, these activities are largely ineffective for body composition goals and are misaligned with what most people truly want: a lean, sculpted physique. The hosts emphasize that strength training is far more effective than cardio for building muscle, boosting metabolism, and achieving visible results.
While zone two cardio burns a higher percentage of fat, it doesn’t burn more total calories, and high-intensity or extreme workouts are often just cardio with added stress or weight. The real success factor is consistency, which comes from choosing a workout one enjoys and can sustain. The hosts also promote Rho Nutrition’s liposomal supplements for better absorption and fewer digestive issues, and introduce their new MAPS, ABS, and BUTT program as a strength-based, body-shaping solution.
Ultimately, the message is clear: prioritize strength training, enjoy your routine, and avoid being misled by flashy cardio trends that promise results without delivering them.
FAQs
MindPump is a health, fitness, and entertainment podcast featuring hosts Sal DiStefano, Adam Schafer, and Justin Andrews. It offers insights on fitness, wellness, and lifestyle, including exclusive workout programs, supplement guides, and free resources.
MAPS, ABS, and BUTT is a full-body workout program with an emphasis on abs and glutes. It's currently 40% off and includes a free 'Muscle Mommy 15' program. You can access it at MAPSABSANDBUTT.com and use the code 'launch' for discounts and free resources.
Rho Nutrition uses liposomal technology to enhance supplement bioavailability, making them more effective and easier to absorb. Their creatine, for example, is less likely to cause gut issues, making it a great option for people with digestive sensitivities.
Cardio is often rebranded with trendy names like 'cozy cardio' or 'fart walks' to appeal to aesthetics, but these are usually low-intensity or gimmicky. They don't effectively target body composition goals and are not ideal for achieving a lean, sculpted look.
Walking is effective for general activity and health, but it's not the most efficient form of exercise for fat loss or body transformation. The data shows 8,000 steps daily provides most benefits, but strength training is more effective for building muscle and shaping the body.
These programs combine cardio and weight training in circuits, keeping heart rates elevated. While fun and social, they prioritize endurance over aesthetics and can cause joint pain. They are not effective for fat loss or muscle building compared to targeted strength training.
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