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Plus, most insured members have a zero dollar copay. I've talked a lot in the past about how therapy has helped me out during really difficult times in my life. And I'm sure like many of you, I've also had a lot of friends who dealt with some serious issues and were lucky enough to have therapists there to help them out. It's great to have a resource like Talkspace.com. If you're interested in learning more about how to get connected with someone who can help, as a listener of my podcast, you're going to be able to get $80 off your first month of Talkspace. When you go to Talkspace.com, that link is in my description below and use promo code SPACE80. That's S-P-A-C-E-8-0. To match with a licensed therapist today, go to Talkspace.com, link in my description below and enter promo code SPACE80. So who's watching your Bangkok trap house? The lady boys? I wish, man. You wish. I just have like a slew of homies just come through there. But you know what's funny is like, I get so many comments. People are like, ah, I know why he moved to Bangkok. I'm like, dude, I don't get up to none of that. I think I went out one night since I lived there and it was like a content thing. So like, I'm not there. Only fans content? I don't know. Subscribe. Dude. Yeah. It was a geographical move. Let me tell you. A geographical move. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. That's it. Just you like, you looked at the globe and you're like, Bangkok. I was like, where are the places I want to go? And like, show me a place that's close to there that's like bearable, you know, like things work, you know, I won't be like frustrated every day with how to get around and whatnot. And that was Bangkok. For accessibility purposes. Yeah, exactly. Because I was like doing my thing for a while from, Ottawa, Canada, and that's not a hub whatsoever. That's like, that's like the middle of nowhere. It's like a pain in the ass even to get here to Jersey. And so I was like, all right, if I want to take this seriously, maybe go to like a place where it's easier. And then, dude, it's, it's crazy. You get all these ideas in your head and then you go through with nothing. And I'm like, ah, maybe I'm going to go back to Canada now. So. You go through with, you seem like you've gone through with a few of them. Bro, I'm kind of. You've got a wide library. I'm kind of jealous. Like I rolled up here and like, wow, you have like such a nice life with a nice crib. You know, I won't like let out the secret of like your own doxy or anything, but I'm just saying like life where you're at is good. And you're like so stationary and you probably hit the gym, you know? And like, I'm like, I envy that. I'm just like, I want both, you know, like I love to absolutely send it. And then I'm just like, wow, like this home body life out here in New Jersey. That seems amazing. I'm not going to move to New Jersey. You're not moving to New Jersey? No, no, no. That's a pretty good sale right there. I'm just saying, I rolled up and I'm like, wow, this, this guy's got it. Got it. Well, listen, man, I appreciate that. I do think for what I do to be able to talk with people for a really long time, the having a stationary place like this is the most important part. It was one of my like non-negotiables when I started in my parents' house six and a half years ago. I'm like, I will talk to a wall as long as I have to, until I can earn the right to be able to get people here because, you know, it allows me to have. Such wide ranging content. And it also though, allows me to bring guys like you from halfway around the world sometimes to tell us what the fuck is going on out there, which is like, I get that feeling now sometimes where I was like watching your recent documentary, which we'll definitely talk about today, where you just pop in and fucking Arab spawns in with you. And I'm like, both of those motherfuckers been in Jersey and now they're halfway around the world blowing up drones. It's like, it's the coolest thing ever, man. Thank you for calling it a documentary. I don't think anyone's, ever said that to me also, but to be fair, like these last two, I did put a little bit more effort and wanted to tell a story. So I appreciate that. But at the same time, I try to want it to be like loose and fun and like, like maybe, yeah, we're covering serious topics, but I also want to be myself and I don't want to have a crew and I just want to be natural. And maybe that's why people gravitate towards it. It works a hundred percent. I've seen your clips for a really, really long time. I've been on my feed for a while because I also like some of the guys that you're friends with as well. Like you guys do some amazing. Work around the world. And that's why it works. You can cover some, like you can do all the fun shit like you do too, but then you can go cover a serious topic and it humanizes it because you're not putting fucking 40 angles on and yell and cut every five minutes. You know what I mean? Yeah. I appreciate that. And that's the way it works the best with anything I do, whether it's more serious or it's like a motorcycle trip in wherever Pakistan, it's just like, I'm me. I have a camera. Hopefully some crazy shit happens. Let's go. Hopefully it's funny. You say that like, um, you know, like you kind of understand what I'm doing, which is like, you could do this. That's more fun. You can do this more serious. I literally put out one video from the Holy land and people like, wow, you went political. I'm unfollowing, you know, it's just like, dude, I just gravitate towards things I'm interested in, right? Whether that be the Holy land or eating the goop scoop in India. Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both huge, huge help. Thank you. Yeah, man. What's the goop scoop? You know, you know, the, the, the fame. Well, I mean, I mean, you see, you see like the street food videos of the dude with the scoop and maybe it's like a gray, like a pot of curry and then they put it on like a newspaper, maybe like dip their feet in it or something. Yeah. Yeah. For extra flavor. Yeah. Yeah. Dabbling with goop scoop, or we could go, um, to the promised land and cover apartheid and things like that. But that's the thing. Like where the it's, it's a major story right now, you know, and it's, and it's got all kinds of cultures in the same area of the world as well and bad shit going down. And I think it's important. You, you don't guys like you don't run away from that stuff. And I know that's not like, Oh, yay, fun, whatever. Like it always is. But you're still, like I said, you were still able to put your, your personal kind of touch on it and it humanized everybody. And I also think that's the beauty of me. Being the boss, having my own platform, working for myself. You don't mean comments I've gotten and be like, you're so biased. I'm like, yeah, I am. Cause that's, I'm not a, I'm not a journalist. I'm just doing my own thing. Like if you think I'm biased, it's like, cause I'm being biased. You're like, it's cause I'm showing what I want to show. And I think that's totally fine. Like people can say I'm doing journalism, but at the end of the day, I'm just like, I'm a tourist. If we get into more serious stuff, that's what happens. Or if we get into more fun stuff, that's what happens. But let me just go assimilate myself with the people, ask them what's up. If it's a more, I guess, politicized area, we could ask them about that. But at the end of the day, I'm me. I'm going to do it my way. And just like, I don't know now, now that I've gotten into this, like, I doubt I would ever be tossed a fat check from whoever else is here or whatever. I'm just like, I'm just, I'm like, God, like, I feel like I can have my cake and eat it too. Cause like, I can go where I want and I can eat it too. And I can do it the way I want, which is amazing. How long have you been doing this? Like six years, something like that? Yeah. So my, I mean, it's funny because it's like, I can't pinpoint exactly where it started. I've been doing it like as my job for the last two and a half years, but then it took me a while, man. Like some people, they really figure it out right away. Me, I feel like I just had to eat shit for so many years until I figured it out. But I think it was because of the journey. Like it's been so fun. So my first solo trip was like, I was like, I'm I was 23. I went to India. I dabbled with videos, but nothing came of it. And then it was just like slowly throughout the years. And I was also like working remote jobs. Cause like, you know, during COVID, I met a lot of people who they, uh, they went to Mexico to work remotely, like because of the pandemic, Mexico was the only place open. Um, and I'm like, Oh, maybe I could do that too. So like I ate shit at a bunch of remote jobs, work some shitty ones, work some really cool ones as well. And then just slowly like, you know, social media just built and built. And I'm just like, all right, I'm ready to take the leap. And there was two and a half years ago. What made, I mean, congrats as well. Cause like that means you were building for a long time making videos around the world when it wasn't your main job finding the time. Did you always want to travel as a kid? Yeah, of course. But okay. But not to sound Gary, Gary Vee pill, but what you're saying, like if you can turn your side hustle into your main hustle, amazing things can happen. So I just wanted to believe. You just gotta get there and just fucking do it. Bro, are you posting content? God damn it. Are you not posting content every day? Two words, CON-TENT. CON-TENT. Yeah. Okay. Sorry for the Gary Vee tangent. Um, so was I into travel as a kid? Yeah. Like, is it something you really like, you're like, I want to go, I'm from Ottawa. I want to go all over the world. There's more to it than this. Uh, as a kid, I was really into Indiana Jones and I would like dress up as Indiana Jones all the time. I had the hat and I had the whip. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna do this. And And I was just like-- - Oh, you had the whip too? had a whip too oh you were switching yeah yeah my dad made me a whip out of the out of a belt maybe i got like um in trouble at like school like on halloween because i think it was my halloween costume maybe like three years so like it was like once every two three years i'd get to go to school and assault children with my whip yeah that was dope um yeah i definitely think indiana jones spawned that dude it was it's a collection of a lot of different things a lot of serious like a lot of necessary life events to happen to put me in this position but I mean I also I grew up as a skater which like where I'm from I'm from a hometown or I'm from a small town where like you know a lot of people marry their high school sweetheart do what their their parents did their their farm kids they grew up playing hockey and I did all those things and then I kind of got into skating and snowboarding and I kind of got into a counterculture and then I started to go to the city a lot and like hang out with all sorts of people where it's just like dude I'm from like a very like white Christian town and so I'm just like realizing like okay I'm kind of as a young kid like I got my license at like 16 and I'm like I'm expanding my horizons where I feel like people from my small town are like narrow-minded you know my my parents like bless their souls like they've been married for like 35 years it's like wow they did all that so good like let me let me do my own thing like I'm sure I could do that one day but it's just like let me do my own thing like I'm sure I could do that one day but it's just like let me do my own thing like I'm sure I could do that one day but it's just like let me do my own thing like I'm sure let me do something different because everyone here does the same shit so it's just like and everyone here has a very narrow-minded perspective of the of the world so I think it's like the combination of like being part of a counterculture and like growing up in a small town and not wanting to assimilate to that I'm just like all right I and being interested in the world growing up like I was always like interested in maps and drawing maps and just like scrolling google earth and just like going into things and I fuck with that yeah yeah it took me a long time it took me a long time it took me a long time I was just like okay now it's time to go and I just went what'd you go study at university I studied geography actually oh there you go on right I I studied I first started in in geomatics and I'm sure maybe you've had like people in here talk about certain things with geomatics because I know you like geomatics yeah because you know like I'm sure there's people who've came in here and talked about like lidar in the amazon oh yeah they're fine so like that's like that's part of it it's it's more of like a technical side to like spatial data in in geography but I think it's it's more of like a technical side to like and like I was like wow this is so sick this is for me because like I would just like scroll google earth all the time but then like by by the time I got into it I was just like dude you're not tech savvy like I've never been tech savvy all my life I've never been good with computers or like stats or whatever I'm just like wow like as much as like this would be cool and I feel like I could get a cool job doing this this isn't for me and I had a transfer and it dude it would have been really cool because I know a lot of people who went through with that and now they go to the arctic and they're gonna survey things and like I'm sure you've talked to people like who go and they do the lidar on the amazon and they're they're finding ancient civilizations under the canopy so awesome but uh it's amazing yeah to do that you got to be a technician and I'm just kind of just like a silly goofy guy I think I think it worked out pretty well dude and that's the thing like a lot of what worked out worked out because of serendipity like dude I ate so much not ate so much shit but I think like to get to the place I'm at it was like a lot of shitty things had to happen it's just like switched my um study path and then you know I think a big one for me was uh you know how I told you like I grew up skating I was a pretty decent skater it's all I want to do with my life and then I tore my ACL and when that happened I was like life is over for me because before that I'm just like I want to travel the world but I want to skate I couldn't picture myself like going anywhere and not wanting to skate so it's just like I want to like and I I had a lot of people who skated and they were taking trips like maybe two or three times a year to Europe or they do road trips to the states I'm like wow this is good life I'll get a good job in geomatics and I'll just skate and then like once I tore my ACL I was just like wow that's over for me like life is over and you can't really skate no I got back into it but it's just like it wasn't the same like at the level I was at and at the time I'm like this is so depressing and just like I like my health depleted and all this and it was just like I'm not saying I got depressed but I'm just like for a couple of years I was like I'm not going to skate I'm not going to skate I'm not going to for a couple of years I'm like I was kind of lost in what I what I really wanted to do because skating was my life at that point and that was gone for me and then you know I started dabbling with documentaries and then I also did a sailing trip with my friends who were in from Florida to Canada and I filmed that and I'm like oh and then I got inspired from Florida to Canada yeah I can get into a fun so I can get into this one but it um I was getting inspired by people on YouTube and then I'm just like in all of that kind of snowballed into what I'm doing today and I couldn't say if it weren't for like probably what I at the time defined as like the most shittiest moment of my life tearing my ACL it might have not happened it probably definitely wouldn't have happened if that didn't happen so yeah if you're going through adversity and shit like that might be just like exactly what you need to like start a foundation of of something else you know you find a silver lining hundred percent man I'm a true believer that like it's okay to be human in the moment and be like what the fuck you know complain a little bit but then once you kind of get that out of your system yeah whatever you can see there to be like all right what kind of opportunities do I have now it's not to be like gay and just be like oh look at the glass half full but like literally sometimes it is that simple holiday season's coming up and if you run a business chances are this is the peak time of year for you if you've got any product to sell Shopify's platform is the place to be Shopify helps you launch a store and start selling in a few simple steps 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your first Hank joined BJ's club the day he became a father of 30 I coach football now coach Hank saves up to 25 off grocery store prices 30 pounds of pasta three cases of protein bars 75 sports drinks and that's just pregame he knows teamwork and BJ's knows savings this is your home coach home of the save join for just $20 at bjs.com slash mesquite and save 10 cents per gallon for six months open soon limited time offer new members only BJ's home of the save check engine abs or maintenance light on take the guesswork out of your warning lights with O'Reilly Veriscan the service is free and provides a report with solutions verified by ASE certified master technicians and if you need help we could recommend a shop for you ask for O'Reilly Veriscan today because yeah it's cool at that point it's just like wow I really have the world at my fingertips it's just it's just it's just it's just like I don't know I was a creative person and just like all right if skating's not gonna work out then it's just like there's a million things I could do whether it be like documentary making film sailing you know those things and we're gonna come back to that later because you said you don't think you make documentaries I think you make one of the definitions of what's a documentary I think you're just discounting some of the comedy yeah maybe because it's comedic doesn't make it a not documentary and maybe just the the format of it I don't see it as traditional documentaries but maybe like the documentaries that I watch are like that I consider documentaries that's like shit that's like people sit in a boardroom and discuss shots and budget and shit and I'm just like I'm just me and I'm gonna do it on my own so maybe maybe a documentary doesn't have to be something that's like produced but like you see it you you see a 305 person cinematic orchestra it's music you see someone get on stage and sing acapella it's music it's all the same different sides no you're totally you know you don't need a whole team to do it like there's another guy you probably are very familiar with his work Peter Centinello I love him he's been an inspiration for me I know what I can see it yeah yeah absolutely and and I would I just feel like I would love to do what he does in America but I don't know what how people would perceive like a Canadian doing American content or if people thinks I'm like biting his shit or something we ain't like that here yeah exactly you know we ain't like those queers you think goddamn socialism back up there Justin Trudeau forced half of you to be trans I should know I should play into that you should yeah yeah you should roll up with like some like rainbow spandex well you already got a place in Bangkok you're halfway there yeah exactly like I'm checking all the boxes right yeah exactly so you like Peter though oh yeah yeah Peter has been a huge inspiration to me and uh I mean I think there's there's times where I've wanted to take my content a more serious route and I've tried like I mean maybe yeah you saw the those last two which are more like serious videos and then there's times where I'm just like uh okay like Let's just do a crazy motorcycle trip. As far as like, I just love how Peter can be so successful just through his words. It's no production, no crazy editing. It's just like he just finds a person. And yeah, and he just like has just the most candid conversation. And it kind of shows with social media. You know, we're talking about like, oh, what's a documentary? Is it like a big corporate production or is it a man with a camera? I think Peter is a pure example of how less is more, you know, and I'm so stoked to see like the demister beastification of social media. You know, I feel like that had its time. And I mean, people who do that kind of high retention content are still always going to crush. But I feel like since we've had that for so long, it's kind of digressing. And now and I think finally, there's like more attention on people who are just, they're not like themselves, they're candid. They're not like, all right, guys, comment, like, subscribe. And tomorrow I'm going to, you know, some shit like that. And I see that with Peter. I see that with a lot of guys like in the space that I'm inspired by. And I'm glad who's another one is he just kind of retired outdoor boys. Oh, the guy out in Utah. Yeah, the Mormon guy, lawyer. And like, do you see how big his channel is? Like 20 million subscribers. And this guy is like, he literally just goes and films and stuff. Granted, he's like, he has very amazing survival techniques and whatnot. But he's kind of just like the most average American, just husband, father, that just likes the outdoors. Yes. And that's what I'm kind of saying that I like is that, I mean, I feel like things are shifting to something way more real and, and maybe in the next decade or so. And, and that inspires me to keep just doing it, like what I'm doing for myself, just me with a camera, talking to someone. Imagine you roll up with a whole production crew and whatnot, and you try to, it's too much, man. Like people are like, oh, I'm nervous. I don't know what to do with my hands. Like if you roll in, you're already vlogging. Then you start talking to someone and then just be like, oh, he's making a video and we're already talking and we're already getting into it and they'll just be themselves. And you're literally, when I watch your videos, you're like this the whole time. So it's, it is exactly what it looks like. You don't have five guys there. You roll up on places where a lot of times people don't speak a word of English, but you're able to really get them comfortable quickly. What's, what's the trick with that? I don't know if I have like an exact trick with that. I think it's just to put on a smile. You gotta be, you gotta be a Canadian about it. You gotta use your manners. You gotta put on a smile. How are you doing buddy? Like what's, you know, shake their hand. That was a little New Jersey right there. How you doing? Okay. Or maybe Miss Minnesota as well, but you just gotta, honestly, you just gotta be genuine with people. You gotta just like be actually interested in someone. Um, yeah. Go in with optimism, go in with a smile. Um, I, I can't say I've had an encounter, even if like I'm fucking with people, I'm trolling with people. I can't say if I had an encounter that has gone south because I'm just always trying to be like, you know, just in good spirits and that will bring you far humor. That also brings you far. That's well, that was like the smile and the humor. Yeah. Me and Arab joke about this all the time. It's just like, I mean, a lot of people we encounter, we don't speak the same, same language, but there's a lot of universal language. I think like 95% of communication in the world is nonverbal. Yeah. So you can, I don't know exactly like how that looks. It's situational, but you can do a lot of things, a lot of communicating when you don't share the same language. And a lot of that might be like, uh, nonverbal. It might be some like funny, like sexual gesture or innuendo and, you know, even the most reserved people will probably get a good chuckle out of them and if not, maybe you'll get beheaded. Who knows? So don't take it. Well, listen, that hasn't happened yet. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'm batting a hundred. So let's keep going. So that's just wild to me though, that the first say three and a half years of this, give or take, you were doing it while you were doing other jobs as well. So I'd imagine you're just putting aside. Whatever money you can to go travel somewhere and you're like, well, I hope we get it when we're there. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, one of the jobs I did work, that was really cool. I don't know if you want to hear about this. I do want to hear about this. I worked in the poker industry. I ran the social media for a poker company and I would go to like tournaments, like the W like world's here's a poker and whatnot. And it was funny cause like the camera equipment I was using was also just my blog, like my blog. I interviewed like, I don't know if you know, poker players, like interviewed, interviewed like Phil. Phil Ivey. Yeah. Not Phil Ivey. I interviewed like Phil Helmuth on my GoPro. He probably loved that. Yeah. I interviewed Daniel Legrano walking down the hallway with my GoPro and then like fucking, there's also mad celebrities there. Interviewed Adam 22, right during like the start of his like cucking saga. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't bring it up. Interviewed Ryan Garcia. Didn't bring it up. Yeah. I wish I did. I wish I did. He's much bigger in person. I feel like he could have clobbered me, but, but yeah, dude, and that was such a cool job. And it's like, dude, I, it's crazy cause I, I quit like the best job I ever had to, to pursue this. So you actually liked the job. Oh, I loved it. He loved it. It was amazing. And like I was there on, on freelance, so like I was doing everything remotely. Um, I didn't even know how many hours I was supposed to work. I'd make a piece of content a day. Mm-hmm. It's just like the best thing about having like, um, a remote job and then also a side hustle. It's just like, uh, if you can manipulate your job to like do it very quick, like, and just like get everything out of the way, one or two hours, and then your side hustle is probably what you put more hours into. That's the thing. So it was dope. I think they, they got a good employee out of me cause like, dude, I, I made their social media blow up. Yeah. It's just like, I was, I was doing so well at it that I could focus on my other job and that eventually made me quit because I was just, I was doing like two, three hours a day of the poker job and then like the rest was at like, uh, like either filming or editing my other stuff. But that's also like insane learning and data opportunity as well. Yeah. Cause you basically get to test with your real job. Oh. Like, wow, this kind of people really gravitate towards, not necessarily like you're going to be covering poker around the world, but like they gravitate towards this kind of conversation, Yeah. where like, I want to do my content. Now I can do that on my shit. Yeah. You know, what's crazy is like, they didn't mind me being a face to the company. It was a very small company. And uh, like there was moments I was like in places like Iraq and people were like, like gambling with dominoes and I'm like, I want to film this and just put it on the poker site. Oh, you were putting it on their page. Yeah. Yeah. There was like ran there, like it was mostly all just poker, but there was like one offs from random countries where it's just like, this is gambling in Bangladesh or some random shit like that. And they're chill with it. Yeah. I loved it. Yeah. It was, it was so random. Some guys like getting his head chopped off for losing. Listen, content. Yeah. Content. Exactly. It's poker, man. Like that, that shit happens in the back rooms of a cash game. You know, like. That's hilarious. Yeah. So you start, you said your first trip was at 23, your first solo trip. First solo trip. That's kind of scary doing like just full sending in on a long trip solo. Yeah. I was super scared, but I just, you know, I mean not to be like super corny, not to be Gary Vee pilled again, but like, man, if you want to like, if you want to do something like if you're, if you're scared to do it, you just got to do it scared, bro. Well, I was like, I'm super scared to do it, but I'm just like, ah, fuck it. I just got it. Got to do it while I'm scared. So where was that again? That was to, that was to India. India. Yeah. So, and at that time, besides that sailing trip I did, like I hadn't done any like real international travel, like maybe like Europe, but that's whatever, like, but I haven't like, like solo traveled, I hadn't went to Asia or anything. So I kind of just like threw myself in the lion's den. How long were you in India that first time? For two months. Two months? Yeah. And I'll tell you. I need that remote job you had. Holy shit. You're like, yeah, guys, I'll be back in two, two, two months in India will drive a man crazy. Holy shit. But, but I loved it. I loved every minute of it. I think I will still say like that first solo trip was like the best trip of my life. Cause like I was dabbling with content, but not really. So I was just kind of like absorbed. Absorbing everything in, like I was on my eat, pray, love shit. Just like, you know, just getting acquainted with the world around me and whatnot. So it was really awesome. Like it was crazy. I was leaving the airport and I was just like, oh my gosh, this is beautiful. Like there's stray dogs and garbage everywhere. Wow. Culture. You know, it was, it was, compare that to my second time going to India, I was so cynical about it. I was like, oh my God, this place smells like shit. First time I was like, wow, it smells like shit. Wow. What a privilege. Different cultures, man. Like I'm so privileged to live in Canada. That's wild. Two months though gives you time to really travel around though and take in the culture. Absolutely. I mean, how many videos did you get while you were there? Dude, I just was kind of dabbling with, like maybe six, but they're all like, I don't know, five minutes. Dude. That's what the thing I was saying is like some people, they just took a camera, started vlogging and they just took off. Dude. I w I did not know what I was doing. Like I look back on those videos and I'm like, oh my God, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life. I'm like, oh my God, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life. feel like maybe six, but they're all like, I don't know, five minutes. Dude. That's what the thing I was saying is like some people, they just took a camera, started vlogging and they just took off, dude, I w I did not know what I was doing. Like I look back on those videos, like holding the camera, like way low and just like, you know, like now I'm like, uh, I don't know, I guess I'm like kind of funny with people. Like I'm. I like to like joke around with people like I couldn't do that back then like I could barely like stop and talk and have a conversation like I was just intimidated it was like before the camera made me more reserved and now it's the opposite now like the camera brings like life out of me you know I'm not saying I'm like I'm a I'm not myself I'm just like a more excited version of myself that's that's I mean it shouldn't surprise me because you've been doing it for so on but that big of a shift to go i would think it would go from you're reserved on it like what the fuck am i doing i'm in a foreign place on the camera this is not good it starts there and then you get to hey at least it's normal but you're saying it actually turns you into a whole other character and i think it like also like um takes away your perception of fear and it just kind of levels the playing field because you got them on tape yeah i don't know and you're just kind of focusing on yourself and you just kind of want to like you know have the best interactions and like you're open this is also the thing i love about doing content is like a lot of the things like i do if i could have my ideal vacation not for content i'm just gonna go to like a beach in thailand you know but like doing content gets you out of your comfort zone right like and obviously there's things like oh away from content i want to have experiences but like when you're filming like i'm so open to it anything and that that's really what i love like i'm open to conversations i'm open to trying new things new food new experiences and that's why like i don't just love content because it's came my job it's just opened so many doors and possibilities just because i have a camera and i'm just like oh this this will be cool that first time though you're in a place i i know there's a lot of people in india who do speak english and then some places where they speak none of it but you're going around with a camera for your first time you're 23 in a brand new culture you're not used to actually doing that and now you are the difference between what i do here and what you do there is like when people come here they're at least like on my territory it's kind of neutral ground in a nice way whereas when you're in the you're in the middle of their fucking country of what two billion people something like that like that's yeah that is a whole different ball game from a like developing rapport with people very quickly and seamlessly you're acting like i'm going into a war zone no it's not it's just india really like that and it's funny you say it this way because like i'm nervous coming here and just talking at a table versus like dude he dropped me off in india with my camera like i'm just like who's got the goop scoop brother let's go let's see if i could destroy my toilet bowl later like i'm down you guys could try to kill me with this shit this kind of thing makes you nervous though to do oh absolutely like way more than just being in india like when i start filming i'm just like i just gotta be myself and i just gotta chill like i i still will take my precautions okay i won't go down that street you know well everything within reason but yeah this is unfamiliar territory for me bro i'm in the mean streets of new jersey the mean streets yeah it's very mean yeah exactly they'll fucking shoot you broad daylight yeah i don't know i don't know these guys and you can wait can you open carry here actually you can you have to do concealed carry and it's also a way longer process than it would be in say even north carolina or texas i mean they'll fucking sell it like a state fair down there there's a lot of hoops you got to go through new jersey to get one really i'm going uh maybe in like two weeks hopefully uh a road trip uh through the states with uh my homie andrew he's been in my amazon content and he's just like just so you know i'm gonna i'm gonna be packing the whole time i was like okay bro yeah well whatever like you just gotta be like it's officer i i don't know him yeah that's it that's that's all you guys we're going to um we're gonna go to appalachia so west virginia and kentucky that's chill there like they like even like five-year-olds carry there or some shit like that yeah i'm i don't know if they have cops out there i'm not american weighing in the comments but i feel like you can get away with a lot of shit out there for sure are you do you have any like specific goal of stuff you want to film in mind going there um just like deep boonies like uh like hick people you know like people like play the banjo and might have like married their cousin like i don't know uh and like maybe like maybe like yeah something like the deep lore of like people who get missing out i don't know if you know like i don't know too much about appalachia but it seems interesting just for all the wrong reasons yeah there's and also it's a place that was that was ravaged by the opioid crisis as well okay yeah that makes sense it was like uh a combination of that and like basically like the the coal industry collapsing and so now they're just out of work and frozen in time okay yeah that that's super cool and i don't know do you think i would have any problems if i just wanted to go there and do what i do in india no i i think you'd be just fine yeah i mean i don't i haven't really gone there but i've seen a lot of people go there i've had friends who go there as well like it seems peter's done a lot there yeah peter oh yeah yeah i don't know i want to find people who eat roadkill i want to find uh maybe some inbred family they definitely have that there yeah there's been some wild i there's been some wild content of that over the years it's like it's also very sad too yeah i know i i don't want to like make fun of the situation obviously like you change your bro you listen like i i know how to like change my tone that's the thing it's like dude like i i went into like a war zone in southern lebanon yeah you demonstrated that and it's like dude and it's funny because like there is times where i'm just like all right i can put a little like a little funny joke here and there but for the most part like i'm being serious i'm like and i was genuine or i'm telling people like dude my heart breaks for you like this situation is fucking bullshit like yeah what are you doing setting up my poll i need to go viral to earn extra cash and you're going to help me here start filming when i say seems like a lot when you could just depop all those boots oh resale sucks they take such a big cut there's no selling fees on depop and it's easy to list oh really huh easy make money on depop with no selling fees download depop and start selling today oh oh oh o'reilly check engine abs or maintenance light on take the guesswork out of your warning lights with o'reilly veriscan the service is free the service is free and provides a report with solutions verified by ase certified master technicians and if you need help we could recommend a shop for you ask for o'reilly veriscan today oh oh oh o'reilly auto parts and but and then there's times just like they were telling me about like oh our the ice cream store beside here got blown up and everyone kept saying the ice cream the ice cream i'm like it must have been pretty damn good ice cream if we're in the midst of a war zone and people just keep bringing up the ice cream this must have been a world-class ice cream that shot that you got where the sun brought you upstairs in the house and took you onto the porch can we pull this up deep it was the second to last documentary that nolan did and it's probably about 35 minutes and so i i can give you the the exact time if i could look at the timeline um yeah so keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going slow down a little bit back a little more back more back more back yeah more back more back uh can i get on there on that uh a little bit more back right there yeah yeah yeah here here here here so that's downstairs now go upstairs go past so you can see hit play it's probably like 10 seconds after this yeah so i'm talking to him in the in the counties over there they move their borders yes they are everything is blown they say there's a seat right here in the pattern but i'm apparently the areas they want to move so that's all gone they're still bombing and whatnot okay do you want to show that building got a warning there but the building down the street didn't know and so this kid is about to show me his house oh happy birthday what do you want to be when you grow up you want to be a football player nice hassan's bringing me into his home and uh basically two months ago it got completely destroyed by an airstrike this is my home are you still living here now no home's still there but right now do you hope one day this can all be repaired sometime soon i hope inshallah i think they need to collapse the building because it's not good it's not safe this kid's such an intelligent 10 year old this is the balcony let's see how used to it he is perfect english uh it's it's crazy like yeah look at that he's 10 years old he has more resilience than me yeah i just can't believe how close bro i like look at that this this shot's insane hey hassan where were you when this got destroyed so that was a whole nother thing that you were that you kept talking about with people in this lebanon documentary where there's places where they give you a courtesy warning hey we're gonna bomb the shit out of you and then places where they just don't yeah absolutely because there's bad guys hasbulla in those buildings so i guess they're their tactic is just to blow the whole thing up and if they get two bad guys it can be at the cost of however many so i don't know if you want to show this but maybe like maybe five to ten minutes more in this the the small kid hassan keep going a little further he brings me to the buildings a little bit more further uh a little bit yeah right there yeah there so this is what i was talking about yeah i was talking about has bully here you can skip a little past this it's just some voiceover but yeah so here hasan like brings me to these buildings that didn't get a warning and so the the bigger one you see there there's about 30 people there and those were all the innocent civilians that died um to the right of that they actually distinguished the hasbulla members they're like these were the hasbulla members these were the targets so these two hasbulla members died 30 innocent people died and then the four people you see to the left are first responders that that died that died after because they went this is just what i heard is that they went after to rescue people and there they were targeted amongst the rubble basically and you'll hear stories about this a lot not just first responders you heard about journalists um you know ambulance firefighters all of that and and i look i don't know who these guys are i people say stories like oh the first responders are just like hasbulla with like a red cross we do some shit like that man but look talk your shit but like at the end of the day just like good job you got rid of the fucking bad guys poster of 30 innocent people that you also killed and i think they'll they'll they'll justify being like no one no one's innocent i think it has parallels to gaza just like oh you see that nice lady yeah they were uh she the the bad guys went and had lunch at her house right like so yeah she's a combatant in in in this war you know it's just like oh your neighbor's uncle's dog sitter also knew this guy so he is basically has bully you know if you keep bombing someone's country like that and displacing their people and killing innocence you're going to get exactly what you want you're going to get all them to want to kill you yeah i don't understand how this is psychologically so fucking hard to figure out we've been watching this now on such a scale over the last three plus years it's like come on because in their head they're all terrorists and i mean i don't think what's happening lebanon is on the same scale as gaza but there's so many parallels as far as how the idf is conducting their war on terror here and i i was fortunate enough that i got to go and talk to the people where i couldn't do that in in gaza so yeah the parallels are i guess you know and i heard this the whole time i was there one to two hasbulla members and i heard this the whole time i was there and i heard so we we target the whole building and the israelis would tell you that not the israelis just they would never okay i mean i'm more saying and dude i didn't want to get into like those kind of conversations and a lot of i mean i i got into one with if you watch my next video for the 24 and 24 the 24 and 24 i was talking to this content creator named tal oran that's at the 40 minute and this clip um and i'll be honest like he's he's very smart um yeah right there by the way amazing job on your back and forth with him i take some balls and dude the thing is is like and i want to specify this is like i just went there to like talk to people i'm not an expert in this this guy has lived through it like it's his job you know to have this kind of commentary but um so i think we were talking about gaza and the amount of lives lost and he said something like well isn't having empathy gay and retarded or something like that it was just a crazy response um but yeah and he was so he was saying he firmly doesn't believe in a two-state solution and to me you keep doing that it's another self-fulfilling prophecy because if you tell people they're not allowed to have a government that actually governs them and they're standing military and things like that who the fuck do you think is going to fill that power vacuum and then when he the thing that really pissed me off is when he did an amazing job i i appreciate that because like i said like i'm not an expert this i just wanted to talk i didn't want to debate it well that's what you did i just wanted out of conversation with him but it also it he hung himself with some of it because when he when he pulled out the blm tactics on calling anything on you a white guy calling any violence racist i was like are you fucking kidding me hold up the race card which was i don't know why basically so deep can you cut ahead to the next spot yeah so we talked in three locations so the second location the scene after this is where it was like yeah no back yeah so the start of that scene well the start you got to go to the start of it go the start start of that location no yeah yeah yeah no no this one is where we're talking about gaza this is the scene where he pulled out the race card yes um and this is the one that kind of confused me and like i said i'm not an expert on the situation i was just trying to have a conversation but the mental but apparently yeah it was i i was confused i was feeling i was doing a lot of mental gymnastics it was a lot of no no he was okay and i i felt like i was trying to keep up with his mental gymnastics and i was yeah let's let's let this play where are we going we we can get how you did it and then we'll react to it going into palestinian communities and essentially terrorizing them harassing them to the point where they're like oh my god i'm gonna kill you these people get displaced their homes bulldozed i think under international law this is illegal but even the idf helps facilitate this is this form of settlement uh something you support yes but the connotation of calling it a settlement or a settler i think is racist and i'm gonna call you on your shit in a friendly way but i especially think and i know this is gonna sound really libtard fucking stupid shit that i'm saying but it is true like a white guy coming to the middle anyone a settler here is fucked it's racist it's disgusting in my opinion it is one of the most dehumanizing things you could do because again as an arab like as somebody who actually actually has arab ethnicity yeah if you're if you're pertaining that anyone from my extended family is a settler in the land that they come from or that they're associated with but most of these kids i see aren't even like arab arab jews what does that mean if they're ashkenazi most of them look like ashkenazi or even even like kids that are kids that are from like new jersey like young hasidic kids that like grew up super orthodox and now they're just like you know maybe they grew up in a microcosm and now they're basically like on a birthright trip and they're just here it's still living in it's still racist yeah of course like it's got nothing to say that just because they're ashkenazi you're literally pinpointing a specific race that has a lot of studies behind it i'm not saying i'm not ashkenazi they're i'm just like any sort of race or any it's not fun being called a racist it's not fun being called a racist it's not fun being called a racist when you're not being a racist whatsoever i'm trying to understand how how that's racist on my part so if you're calling a jew yeah or an arab a settler in this land yeah you're being racist okay so all right let's pause it right there so he just totally contradicted himself by the way because they're taking land from arabs right there so how's that it can't be one without the other secondly the way that you can't that's what i was referring to earlier when you came back adam with the well i see some fucking kids from new jersey and he just said that's racist that's retarded yeah he's retarded and and and i can tell like he's got an iq like above room temperature like he's very he's very intelligent yeah like he's very good at debating and that's one thing i didn't want clearly not yeah that's my point i don't like when very smart people are retarded he's retarded by choice we're gonna start we're gonna have to like bleep all this deep because you know yeah but like it just something about that pisses me off so much i don't like it i don't like it i don't like it i don't like it because it's like you have every right to say hey why are people's homes being fucking taken from them against international law and then he just goes racist it's just i i don't know i'm so sick of that i gotta experience that firsthand and i'm glad after this conversation i actually got to experience it you know um i don't know if you want to hear about like of course i want to hear what exactly i experienced but you have more docs coming out right yeah yeah and you and the crazy thing is it's just like i see clips every day of these young settler kids that go into these communities harass the locals beat the locals and sometimes even they end up killing them yes you know um but to even experience it firsthand in like a non-violent situation it was still like so impactful to me i'm just like whoa this is the the amount of indoctrination is insane to have a young kid that's 15 years old who doesn't go to school and his life is basically harassing palestinians he's given a fucking gun and just to do that's his life now he's doing basically like god's work in in his eyes and i don't i can't even be like obviously i was i was roasting the kid i don't know if you've seen the clip the the settler clip but i've not seen that yeah it was kind of like a sneak peek um Is that on your Instagram? It's on. I put it on a carousel on my Instagram. So it's the last two clips. If you go to my Instagram, you'll find a carousel. But my whole point was like, like obviously I'm still roasting kids, but I'm just like, I feel bad for them, man. It's just like, as a kid, obviously you're a product of your own environment. You're going to believe everything. It's so easy to religiously indoctrinate a child, especially like if they grew up in a settlement, like their whole lives and told like, these people are Satan, they're the enemy. And our job is to harass them and drive them out of this land. So for me, obviously I'm like, oh, these are little bitch ass punk ass kids. But at the same time, I felt a lot of empathy. I'm just like, wow, I had a life where I just grew up skateboarding and shit. And these kids at 15, like they think their purpose is to just harass and shit. Yeah, and we didn't play it. But when you were at the house, next to the ice cream store where you were seeing all the rubble, when you were on the way out of that house, you said something like that to that kid where you're like, I hope you have the best life because like I grew up with none of these fears or worries right here. And you have to grow up with this. And that's strictly because of where you were born and where I was born. And you have no choice in the matter. I thought that was awesome. Yeah, no, as much as like, you might think Canada or the States is falling off. Like you have to really realize that you grew up in a land of opportunity and you are so far away. You're free and you are so safe in these lands compared to like these kids who are going through war and they showed so much resilience. A 10-year-old kid showed more resilience than me, a 30-year-old man. And we're just like, you know, if I die, like that's God's plan. Bro, I can't say the same thing. I'm enjoying my life. I want to keep living. And I literally heard young kids being just like, if I go like, yeah, like I'm just going to general. Like that was God's plan for me. I was like, holy shit, that's impactful. And a lot of that is just like, they have such strong ties to their homeland. They don't even want to leave. And there were a lot of people you were talking to on there who all repeated that same thing. And it's, there's something about that where it's like my father's father and his father's father and his father's father and his father's father were here. This is, you know, the industry we're in. This is what we've done. Yeah. And I feel like almost like they, I don't know if it's a good metaphor, but like, you know, like the captain going down with the ship or something like that. No, no, it's, I understand. Yeah. Cause, cause many of them, they get the warning. And I mean, there's so many people in Southern Lebanon, whenever the, the airstrikes are happening, they, they leave, they pack all their stuff. They go to Beirut or somewhere more North, but then there's some who stay and they don't have to stay. They can go, but they're just like, fuck that. Like, right. If I go down, I go down, you know, I'm comfortable here in my home and it's admirable, man. It's very admirable. It's so much resilience. And, and then the second they're done bombing, they're like, okay, let's go back. Let's see if our home is okay. And if not, like, we're still going to stay here. We're not going to, we're not going to relocate. Whereas, you know, me and you, we, we didn't grow up in war zones, but I don't think we could say the same thing. Like, I don't think, if in my hometown, if it turned into a war zone, I can't see like people wanting to return the second after the missiles stop flying, you know? Cause we don't know that they, like you were just talking about environment and where all these different types of kids grow up. Yeah. They grew up in that. It's, and I hate that they did. It's in their bones. There's that resiliency that you speak of and that toughness that like through no fault of our own either, we didn't have, we were lucky. We didn't have to know that when we were 10 years old. You know? Yeah, man. Dude, I feel so Joe Rogan pilled hard times, create hard man, create easy times, create soft man. 100%. We're just a bunch of soft man, bro. We didn't grow up in war times, bro, where these kids they're, they, they're growing up in war, their experience and all this shit. And I'm just like, every time I said, I feel so bad for you. They're like, don't fucking mention, don't doubt. It's so good. It's so good. Don't, don't worry, man. It happens. I mean, they're all so happy and just like, just full of life. Good for them though. Yeah. Like the little things in the perspective that they have to appreciate things that we just take for granted so much. The guy was with tires and he's so positive. He's just like, what's his story. Uh, I don't know exactly his story, but he just loves to spread positivity. Like he's crazy optimistic. He's just like, they don't realize right now they're making us stronger. He is a firm. Firm believer. And I am too, as well, that like adversity makes you stronger, you know, he's like, almost like not happy, but he's like, not glad his house got like, you know, things happened to him, but he's just like, this shit happened in my hometown and I'm channeling this and I'm making something good of it. So serendipity, he's a very, yeah, he spread Sarah. It was a serendipitous situation for him. So I don't know. I don't know exactly, um, his upbringing too much, but I love his message just to spread positivity. How'd you connect with him? Uh, through Arab. Through Arab. Yeah. Arabs, the plug. There was the plug in Lebanon plug. Yeah, dude. I love that guy. He's fucking hilarious. Yeah. I gotta get him back in here. So he's such a, it's like the temperature of the room changes when he walks in. He's very, very philosophical. Very philosophical. Yeah, exactly. Like I, I love just letting him just kind of like talk to me about God or whatever. Like he, he's, he's just fun to listen to. How long have you known him? Uh, but last year and a half, but it's just like within the last year and a half, like we've probably traveled like four or five countries together. He has family in Canada, so I'd see him in Canada a bit. Um, yeah, we've had some trips together. He's great. What made you finally want to go and cover this? Obviously this has been going on a while, like what's going on in Lebanon and in Israel. I don't know if there's like, the way I think about it, like I said, I think it, it, uh, it has parallels to what's going on in Gaza, but no one can go to Gaza besides like, I guess, humanitarian people. Um, but like I said, I think the way the IDF is conducting their war on terror, um, it draws parallels. Right. Maybe not like Gaza is completely. The whole thing is destroyed. If you looked on satellite images, but at least like street blocks in here have that parallel in the, also the parallels of like, they got a warning, but they didn't get a warning. Oh, there was two Hamas guys, or there was two Hasbulla guys in this building. So they destroyed their own building. So I was just like, I just wanted to see that and also humanize the situation. I didn't want to talk about Hasbulla, you know, I don't know too much about it. Like I obviously, obviously I'm getting more educated now, but it wasn't my whole point. My whole point was just to be like, look at this one kid who just like had a shit blown up and his father who lost friends and family. And like, like the poster, it's just like, okay, you got two bad guys, but then there's just like 30 innocent people killed. It's like, is this how we, is this how we like conduct a war? Right. Yeah. So I just wanted to humanize the situation because I think a lot of people are there are demonized. Because of, you know, they live in an area ran by Hasbulla, whatever you want to think of them. I don't want to get too into it, you know, super demonized, but like, like I went there and I just met like just super kind, like just amazing people. Right. And also like you were talking to, I think you talked to a doctor who treated a lot of collateral damage patients of the pager attack. That was the, yeah, that was the pager attack. So he's talking about like kids that he's treating and stuff. He's like, all right, you're blowing up some Hasbulla guys, but you're blowing up regular kids and women and other guys there too. Yeah. And I mean, some of the things he was going through, the, the eyes gone, you know, the legs gone. It's just like, fuck man. Yeah. No, I, I think people there, like, you know, they might go through a lot of trauma. Yeah. Yeah. Especially like if you're, if you're a doctor, but he seemed fairly like he seemed like he dealt with it. Yeah. I wonder how much of it. I, I'm not discounting the trauma at all, but I wonder how much of it, you know, they develop, unfortunately, because they have to a level of, you know, callous the wound and just, they carry it way better than we ever would. I think a lot of doctors are like that. Right. Where I'm not, I'm not that person. No, neither am I. I just wanted to talk to people on an emotional level. Yeah. Yeah. I think I did a fine job of it. I think you did a great job. And, and also. 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You know, you talk about not being a journalist, and this is something I've had to think about a lot too, because I'm not a journalist in what I do either, but I recognize that there are podcasts sometimes where it either comes into it at some point, or like, it is that, whether I like it or not. So when you do this, you know, and I think the example of like 24 Hours in Israel versus 24 Hours in Palestine, that documentary, you know, could you see why, and I mean this as a compliment, why a lot of people would look at that and say, this is by definition journalism right here. You're capturing it. You're capturing both sides. You're hearing both perspectives and you're allowing people to then hear that and decide for themselves. Yeah, I definitely see. So I wouldn't, I know people can call it journalism. People call me a journalist. I just wouldn't call it myself because like I said, I'm just an individual. I grew up with a lot of people who went to school for journalism. Like all my friends throughout university were into journalism. Even some of the friends I would like dabble making documentaries with. And like, just like the line of questioning has, oh, you can't ask a yes. Or no question. You have to like, this has to lead into that. And I'm just like, I'm just here to have a conversation, man. I think that's changed though too. And I'm not the guy to be like, oh, it's the standards have changed. But like, just in general, to be a hypocrite for a minute, the world has changed so much from what the system was set up to be journalistically that what I don't think should happen is therefore you say, therefore anything goes and anything's cool. Like there should be some form of like standard that's found, but you kind of have to massage that based on the mediums of through which it's being done. There's a huge difference between a guy like you literally running around with the camera and getting full on live reactions in conversation versus the guy that goes in there to interview two or three specific people, sit down for two hours, record it and write an article about it. These are different things. The tide has shifted. Now individuals have all the power. Look at like the views like Peter Stantonello is pulling more than like networks and whatnot. And he's just a guy and he can run his platform however you want. It's awesome. I think it's awesome. I also think it's a, and I look at it, whether I do this job or, you know, some of my friends I talked to who do a great job in these different spaces. It's also like a really cool new responsibility too, you know, because we don't want to, we saw how much trust righteously. So the mainstream media has completely obliterated of themselves for so long. And we don't want to make those mistakes in a different way, you know, to play devil's advocate. Uh, I do feel like since, you know, there's more power within the individuals and especially it's on the internet. I think a lot of people are losing the plot and I don't want to name any names, but there's certain people that, oh, I do journalistic work and it's just going into a place and clip farming. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. And like I said, I, I don't want to fucking get into like certain situations, but you know what I mean? It's like, it's like, it's like, okay, we're going to cover this, but it's not, a lot of people are doing like the Europe has fallen thing. It's just like, okay, they want to cover the migration crisis in Europe when that's really them just like provoking a scammer and then just getting into a fucking fist fight. And they're like, hell yeah, this is content, you know, it's just like, and then they call themselves a journalist or whatever. I think that that's a really good point you're making on something else too, because this is another thing I look at all the time. There are people who go out of their way to call themselves a journalist and they're not. Yeah. So no human's perfect. We all have biases, even the best journalists. That's how it is. But there are people who have hardcore biases. Like it's not even fucking close. And they try to be like, yo, I'm just calling balls and strikes here. No, you're not. So like, one thing I respected, like about a guy like Sean Hannity, who, you know, his worldview and my worldview are two very different things, is he, I remember this, he would go out of his way to correct people when they called him a journalist. He's like, no, I'm a commentator. I have a point of view. I appreciate that. Right? Because I fucking know you do. I mean, everyone knows you do. But like, you're absolutely right that there are people who will use that as a shield for what they do. And there's a clear agenda behind it. And I'll join you and not name names, but we're thinking of the same people. They're just making provocative comments. They're just going to provoke people at that point, just to get clips. Because they understand it's just like, all right, this exists on YouTube as a long format thing. But like, what's really going to blow up is this Nigerian guy trying to punch me in the face. And then my security guard just absolutely dagging him. Right. Yeah. Right. If you do that fucking six million times or whatever, it gets old. Yeah. And we kind of catch on to your shtick where it's just like, dude, obviously there's moments that like are quite sensationalized in this, where it's just like, like you said, like a kid is bringing me up to his home that completely got destroyed. But like, I'm not going in there and just be like, all right, let me get this sad kid. Oh, your house got destroyed. All right. Like, let me like. Hold it right there. Yeah. I need, I need more emotion. I mean, you know, I, I went in, bro. There are people who do that, bro. I went into this with zero expectation, bro. I was quite actually scared going in South of Lebanon. It was a ceasefire, yet there's fucking drones overhead and shit. Like, yeah, people are acting like it's normal. It's fine. But I had no fucking clue what I was going in. Like, I'm from Ottawa, bro. Yeah, bro. Like, I grew up playing fucking hockey and shit, you know? Like, and it turned out like there's nothing, I don't think there was any airstrikes that day or anything. I stayed safe all day, but I just went in like with an open mind to talk to people and learn, not be like, all right, your house blew up. Like, let me, tell me the saddest shit that you can, you know? Yeah. And, and, but that comes across too, because you can tell it's like live conversations. You're moving along. New people are coming in. It's not, you were even smelling when some stuff felt like a little set up. Like, oh, that wasn't, yeah, that definitely was totally random. Like, I like when someone's like live reacting to it and they're sniffing out the bullshit. Yeah. And I'll play devil's advocate too sometimes. Like, I will try to tell, like, even if it's just like, okay, like I went to like show the occupation of like the West bank and whatnot. And then I remember this content hasn't came out yet, but I remember like some guy telling me just like, oh, I got in prison because of nothing. And then my friend was just like, he wasn't in prison because of nothing. Like he was part of a resistance group. And I explained this, you know, just like, I'm not, I'm not gonna, oh, he's an innocent guy. The idea of just in prison. Like, I'm just like, it wasn't because of nothing. Like you have to do it. Obviously he's living under occupation. His life is fucking shit. Like, you have to do it. Like, I understand why people join some kind of resistance whenever like this is their life, but it's just like, I'm not going to hide this and be like, oh, they fucking, they imprisoned him for nothing. They just took him off the street. Right. I will be completely honest. Even if I, you could say I do have a bias. Cause just like I was there quite pro-Palestinian. I wanted to show a side of occupation. Maybe a lot of people didn't, haven't got the chance to see, but at the same time, just like if someone tells me something, that's the honest part. That's the honest truth. That isn't supporting like what I am pro for. I'm still going to say it. Right. You know what? So was that scary to go do that? Uh, it's a pretty active area. I mean, I mean, we, I mean, we could get into the settler stuff. Yeah. That's it. That's all I'm asking about. Yeah. Yeah. But dude, the, the thing is, it's just like, like I was saying before, it's like the settler stuff was, uh, go back to the Instagram, uh, go down. Which one do you want? Go down. There's Arrow. Yeah, there's Arrow. Oh, wait, where's it? More down. Yeah. Okay. So that left, bottom left. Right there. Yeah. I clicked that one. Maybe we can see the, uh, and it's two clips over. So this clip and the next clip. Okay. Let's hear this one. Boom. And I can, I can get into, um, I can get into this whole day. Cause this was my most impactful day of the trip. Yeah. All right. Let's run it. What is he saying? He said, why do you come here with arrows? Get out of here. Hey. So you think we should go? No, for you, if you don't want to get deported, I'm not scared. I'm not scared at all. They're the least intimidating people in the world. Like this little pipsqueak. He's like owning a, like owning, um, a rodent, you know, he's like a rodent you keep in a cage. Have you ever owned a ferret? So, um, people called me racist for this, like a commentator. This is like the way people like stretch this is they're reaching very, very hard to be like, Oh, so all Jewish people are like, do you? And then I'm just like, do you have to give you the fucking background here? Listen, like the, and I, and I've said it already and it's like these kids, they grew up completely indoctrinated. All they do their whole life is harass people. They live in these settlements. This settlement has literally killed a young Palestinian kid. You know, that's what they do with their eyes. Their lives, they harass, they attack, and they sometimes even kill. And you're mad at me for calling him a fucking rodent. That's what he is a fucking. Yeah, he's also in your face fucking being racist to you, he's confronting you as well. It's like if you have nothing to hide, dude, people should be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't like that too much. So this is in a town called Tarmacaya. Can we pull that, Tarmacaya? We'll pull it up on a map so we can see it. Real quick, can I just go to the bathroom? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll pick it up right here. So we'll pick it up with Tarmacaya. Let's do it. Are we getting back into this or are we getting back into geoguessing? All right, we're back. We're just talking off air. Sorry, I ate a lot of watermelon before you came, so my bladder is fucking exploding today, my bad. What's this thing you were just telling me about? Geoguessing? Geoguesser. The fuck is this? I can't believe you guys haven't heard of geoguessing. No, I haven't. Jeef has. I mean, it's very – it's blown up because of like the clips online, especially this guy, Rainbolt, right? Rainbolt. Yeah, I think that's his name. So essentially what happens is you get dropped off. You get dropped in a random part of the map in Google Street View with the car and you're on a road and then you have to guess exactly where in the world you are. And these people have it down to a science. It's essentially all pattern recognition. So they'll be like, "Oh, so this dirt and you have this road lines and these poles." They'll know almost not just the country, like the exact region they're in. They could pinpoint it within five seconds like – Oh, I want that autism. Whatever that is. Give me that. Dude, this guy, I don't know his actual government. Name, but the Rainbolt guy, like I think he would be an amazing podcast guest. Oh my God. Yeah. Because he obviously knows so much about the world. It's just like, yeah, yeah. This is the dude? I think any video. Amanda, let's get this guy in. Yeah. No, like – He gets like celebrities to play. Where is like a – Oh, that's wild. But no. Okay. Also, okay. Find my mom. Not just that. Let me tell you something else. It's not just Street View, right? So he'll – someone will send him a photo. Like, okay. So you see that one on the top left? It's not just the map stuff. It's like he will go into investigations of where this photo and when it was taken. So this guy, he sent him this photo. He's like, this is the last picture I had of my dad, but I don't know what basketball game it was at. And this dude, like he went through archived photos. He's like, oh, these rafters were there, there. And he's like, ah, this – it was against – and dude, he found the exact basketball game in the exact location they were in the stands where he took his last photo. Oh my God. Dude, people will be like, see that one? That's my mom. She's like, hey, this is the last photo I have of my mom. She passed away. I just really want to know where this photo is. Dude, it's not just like – the geoguessing stuff is one thing. Like this is peak autism. This is awesome. But he's literally like helping people in the most sentimental way. Oh, that's amazing. Like, yeah. Literally people will come to him. Holy shit. He got it. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and this is all – all he had for clues was like the sign in the background. But dude, some of them like – Yeah, let's get this guy in. Let's get this guy in here. Yeah. See the one find my mom? That one? That one was literally like – it was just on the street. Look. He found this exact location. That's from like fucking 1995. Yeah. And he still found the exact location. It might be older. Bro. Yeah. It could be. I'm just looking at the t-shirt and jeans. 1980s. Wow. And that's in Greece right there? Kalimera. Yeah. I think – no. But I think he was like – it was neither of those. I think it ended up being Italy. Oh my God. She has Alzheimer's now. So I can't ask her anything. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's so cool. And he found it. All right. Where was it? The exact – watch. Spoiler alert. The exact location. It was in Italy. It was in Italy, bro. So he didn't even know the country. Yeah. If it was Greece or Yemen, that narrows it down. But he didn't even know the country. Wow. And I think it was like something to do with the car, the model of the car. He narrowed it down to Italy and then it's like, ah, the sunrise in the west sets in the east. Some shit like that. Like, bro, peak autism. It's awesome, man. No. That's incredible. No. I think you definitely need to have this guy out. Yeah. Yeah. And I honestly do feel like if you need something else to binge, binge him. You'll learn a lot about the world as well. I feel like this is going to be a new favorite channel right here. I love shit like this. I can't believe you haven't – I'm one of those guys that does love to play on a map and be like, ooh, what does it look like there? I do that all the time. I can't believe you haven't played GeoGuessr. I know. I haven't. There is a huge internet subculture dedicated to GeoGuessr. It's massive and the people are so good at it, man. It's just like big on Reddit. I take it. Yeah. Exactly. Reddit forums. But dude, it's like – I would say it's a healthy form of video game. Oh, I think – yeah. It's very cool. Really just blasting Masaad on cod or something. Like this is educational. Exactly. A kid could look at this and start to be curious about the world and want to know. I think it's so good for like almost like IQ training because it's just like, dude, your IQ is like – are you just intelligent? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's so cool, man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be binging the shit out of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. live like played against him just to like show like the comparison of someone where it's just like you're worldly and shit but like you you oh he'd body bag me no like that's what i mean like like you might you might guess like literally the other side of the world where he gets it like a kilometer within five seconds yeah no i would love to see that like how especially like the one you were showing me with the dad right there where he gets it down to the restaurant how many steps it takes to get there but you know that's actually a cool thing too is like you could send him a photo from your childhood or something like if you wanted he'd want to do oh you want to do some prep work for the show like this is a there's a photo from my child will you come here and surprise me and like see if he could blow your mind or something that's actually an amazing i don't know if you have anything sentimental like that like of like actually like you would actually want to figure it out but yeah he could he could be that guy that detective that worldwide i would definitely want to figure it out about you people i love who were in another place than i was because i'd be able to know i'd be like oh that's fucking you know alaska 97 or something like that but like when it's when it's when you're not in it if it's like a picture of my mom and she's like i can't fucking remember where that was yeah something like that that would be so fucking cool i'm genuinely good with maps but sometimes i have pictures from places in the world i'm like i i don't even remember what city this is in or like town you're everywhere yeah yeah exactly and i would love to know but it would be so cool with like your parents yeah they had like travel pictures it would blow their mind i mean shed a little tear their eyes bringing back a little memory you know you know this little homestay i stayed at i don't know if your parents ever did anything like that but yeah if you wanted anything sentimental for him to dig up that's he's he's all about that and he's he's helping people man that's so cool shout out rainbow yeah for sure always learn something new on this show that's why we bring people in but we left off we have the map d for the how do you say this place again uh term messiah term messiah so this is in the west bank can we zoom out a little bit deep just for a minute just so people can get a lay of the land where it is so this is the northwest of gaza obviously on on the other side of the country but so this is north of jerusalem north of jerusalem about an hour north of jerusalem okay so first of all why did you pick this place of all the places i was super random man so uh i was with a friend uh he's on the internet he goes by saluki and basically that was the first time we were like it was the start of oh potentially a three-day mission we wanted to investigate uh settlers in the west bank um if if you don't know what like essentially a settler is it's like people who how should i say this i'm not i'm not an expert in this whatsoever but it's just like um jewish people who believe that the land of palestine is their ancestral homeland so the the people who are there living in these lands they they go and they'll they'll settle make settlements in their field and essentially do what they whatever tactic they need to do to drive them out displace them from their homes eventually either take over their homes or bulldoze them and create uh i guess israeli settlements there um and a lot of people uh this is their whole life this is all they know their their parents make them do this from a young a very young age and they get the funding from it obviously and they have this they get the funding from it yeah like i don't know exactly where but it's like obviously there's a lot of rich people who also believe in this cause they can get the funding for it um i don't know if it comes directly from the state but they also have the support of the idf so no matter if they look like a little 15 year old pics pipsqueak that you would love to slime out you can't because you know the the idf is behind them figuratively and literally in some situations and even if they're kicking palestinians out of their home the idf will say something just like well this is now and uh this this land is for the some shit like this is now a a military like this is a military training site i don't even know the the terminology it's like this is once again challenging my ignorance here but the idf will come and take their side and essentially help them displace local palestinians from their home from their field from their land so i remember i used to see videos of this maybe like a decade ago wow and i'm like that's god literally my reaction was like that's got to be taken out of context that can't be real like you just walk up to someone who's lived in a house for a hundred their family's been there a hundred years that 200 years and you're just like you're gone and and that's why i wanted to experience this i'm just like this like i see it all the time on my feet especially since i was like going to take this trip through israel and palestine i'm just like how much is this is embellished is this real and then i saw it firsthand even if it was like a non-violent or confrontational interaction i still saw it and i heard testimonies from the people and i'm just like whoa this is very very real um so essentially on this day we we wanted to film something to do with settlers and the occupation so we left from nablus um in the west bank and you you you you This is so interesting is there there's all these like israeli settlement towns there you know i think they call them uh zone it's either i think there's zone a wait i don't know i don't know don't they separate something because i've never been there it's like they put the country in zone one two and three or whatever they code it that way yeah yeah so it's zone a b c and i'm just trying to think if it's either zone a is completely israeli or zone c is completely israeli and i but it's just like i know a lot about the zones just don't know which one is a okay wait let me let me get this picture up for you so it's just like so the one that is completely hold it a little bit this way for palestinians is zone a this sign this sign on the road that i've experienced so you can read it out loud all right yeah so dave can you see that on the screen you want to read it out loud this this road leans to this road leads to area a under palestinian authority the entrance for a israeli citizens is forbidden dangerous to your lives and against the israeli law yeah and but i literally have israeli friends who not just frequent zone a's who literally live in zone a's you know i was going around with my friend and talking to the locals and being like hey do you have a problem with this guy he's israeli obviously he's very pro-palestinian he's on their side so they're all just like i was gonna say he's an arab israeli right that guy uh i was a little confused by that yeah no i think he's he's jewish like he is yes he's jewish but he's very pro-palestinian he's very pro-palestine yeah because he he grew up in south africa he experienced apartheid in south africa and then whenever he he came back to israel he was telling me about how you know they grew up taking arabic class classes to learn the language and the teacher left i don't know i shouldn't be laughing but the teacher left the room and the start of the kids started like chanting like death to arabs or some shit and like he i guess since he grew up like outside of it right in south africa he's like what is going on here this is fucking crazy these kids are fucking brainwashed that's the thing like they accuse the other side of doing that and by the way there is evidence that the other side does that as well to them yeah what i take issue with is the projection because it's like whatever they accuse okay sometimes it's 100 right in in some cases but y'all do it too yeah and you guys are the ones with the government and military estate and fucking funding from the number one gdp exactly that's what i'm trying to say is like there's extremes on both sides i'm not going to deny this but i'm going to side with i guess the people who are just the underdog essentially the people who don't have a fucking even a stone in this fight if they have a stone in this fight they get fucking locked up and tortured and shit so yeah obviously i'm not gonna side with the people who being oppressed you know right all right sorry i'm gonna side with people being oppressed not the oppressor the way the way i look at it so so you go into this settlement well i actually want to like uh back up how we got there so we so we were in nablus which was in area a we just went over that and then so we we but we take a cab to area c which is only for israelis right it's an israeli settlement so israelis even if you saw that side israelis can go into area a come and go all they want but palestinians can't go into area c like they're completely every uh israeli settlement has like an idf check post at the start of it and like is that a place that the international map show to be palestine right now it would be technically in the west bank right a bunch of settlements all over the west bank and then i guess if you bring up a map of a b and c they would be marked as area c just small settlements throughout um but you're saying palestinians cannot go into that area even though international maps show that that is not israeli territory yeah i think i think they're technically a legal under international law right so how is that allowed beats fucking i don't do i don't know it's i keep waiting to find like some sort of like oh oh right it's it's because you know can't find it i mean they're they're greedy they're under occupation they're any settler is uh has the idf behind them they can do what they want with the support of the idf and the big yahoo so let me let me go like so we're we're going from an area c and the thing about uh the area c's is you know there's a bunch of israeli settlements scattered around yeah you got it up here scattered around the west bank and um a lot of people since there's not like buses from there to there they'll hit the hitchhike and me and saluki like we have that the privilege of having canadian passport and being an israeli we just started an israeli settlement and just this we're just didn't even put our thumbs up just flagged down a car and just got picked up right away and just like hey we're going we i think we said we're going to jerusalem bring us as far as you can and the first dudes pick us two idf 22 year olds dudes packing in there so we're cracking jokes like hey like does it are you are you concerned like the goyim's in your car or something he's like no i'm good like i'm i'm i got my i'm packing so we're good so yeah we're cracking jokes and whatnot but it's crazy from like the type uh from area c to area c from these israeli settlements like there's like young 10 year old girls that will just hitchhike and they'll just get in anyone's car and just like go from settlement to settlement they don't have like any buses so it's just like it's very common there just to hitchhike so we hitchhike to a place called tarma uh i did feel bad at one point i'm i'm basically leaking this whole youtube video but it's funny so we get it we we get in the idf car get dropped on the main road we get into another guy's car the thing about taluki is like he likes to put on different like personas and different aliases so he's pretending with this guy he's like from quebec and he's on a birthright trip no one from his family lineage has ever moved to the holy land so this guy's and this guy he's going to another israeli settlement called chilo he's so excited he's like oh my god like i have to make a best impression like give me your whatsapp and uh you can come to shabbat dinner and then like after that after we got out of the car like uh so he was just like damn like i kind of feel bad you know but anyway so shiloh there's there's shiloh there's a big field in between which are palestinian fields and then there's tarra messiah tarra messiah is a lot of um americans palestinian americans who live in this town palestinian americans yeah they have dual dual citizenship um and a lot of them are quite wealthy right um we go to this uh lawyer's house he's basically he's palestinian spent some time in america and then has moved back to palestine um to for to be an advocate you know um and you know use his his leverage of knowing the law and whatnot to to his advantage and he's explaining uh basically you and everyone who lives in this town has fields that their ancestors have owned for hundreds and hundreds of years and within the last maybe five years or so they've been occupied by israeli settlers and they haven't been able to go to their fields within the last three or four years that they own and pick their pomegranates their olives whatnot and anyone who tries will get like violently attacked and he showed me videos of you know some palestinian car coming from their own field and like uh settlers just absolutely attacking it smashing their glass um beating them whatnot like they're lucky to make it out alive um there was one kid he was 14 years old he was american palestinian just visiting and i think he got into a confrontation with the settlers maybe he was throwing rocks or something and they killed him um and this is the same settlement that i kind of uh had this exchange with that's why i didn't have any empathy for them and i was fine with yeah calling them no i thought yeah whatnot and yeah listen and and he's like in your face like harassing you assaulting you yeah i'm not saying you get what you get yeah i'm not saying it was the same kid but it was from the same settlement that they were responsible for this young kid's death yeah dave can we pull up how many settler caused deaths and look i want to have happened since october 7th 2023 there is a statistic for this and none of them as of a couple months ago none of them have been tried in court and also another let me just get this yeah so we have it. So according to the United Nations OCHA, over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank by Israeli forces and armed settlers combined. So it's both. It's not just settlers. It's both. It's also the IDF. Since October 7th, while the exact standalone tallies solely for settler-inflicted fatalities are difficult to isolate completely from military operations, I wonder why, monitoring groups and reports indicate the following. Total deaths, over 1,000 Palestinian deaths, settler attacks, the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs and media analyses of military data have documented thousands of violent settler incidents with specific yearly breakdowns such as 2024 and 2025 showing dozens of deaths directly or indirectly linked to nationalist-motivated settler violence and clashes. And I do want to say, Piers Morgan has done some awesome work on this, having that Daniela Weiss lady on. Have you seen this? No, I haven't. Okay. Just go listen. Type in Piers Morgan, Daniela Weiss. Pause this video. Go do it. Type in Piers Morgan, Daniela Weiss to YouTube and go listen to her talk. For example, her latest, she keeps going on thinking it's helping. It's not. But her latest video, Piers simply asked her the question. He was like, do you believe that one human life that is Israeli is equal to one human life that is Palestinian? And she would not answer the question. Because you see many of them and they're just like, I don't believe that. A thousand, even a million Palestinian lives is worth mine. And their reasoning is based in theology because they're the chosen people. And so I think a lot of these young settler kids that are very indoctrinated justify their violence with that because they've grown up in like an echo chamber, a microcosm of theology, thinking they're the chosen people. And by any means to what they describe as like reclaim their, their land, their, their Holy land, you know, there was, there was this thing that stuck with me. This was a few months ago, but I walk along the Hudson here a lot. And there was one night where I was walking on the usual trail and in front of me was a family of Orthodox Jews. And they're all facing away from me because they're walking in the same direction I am. But the father had a little, I guess, daughter on his, on his shoulder. She couldn't have been older than like a year old. And so I was like smiling, saying hello. She's smiling back, waving the whole bit normal, you know, it's just like a cute little kid. A couple of nights later, might've been the next night, but it was the same week. I'm in the same place, literally coming around that same bend on that part of the trail and same thing, except it's a Muslim family and same thing, daughter, one or two years old on the dad's shoulders and I'm doing the same thing with the little girl. And she's just smiling back. And it really hit me after that. Cause I was like, you know what? It's so simple, but those two kids, Chad, and I don't know where the Muslim family was from, but chances are those two kids are raised to think the other one's not human and to hate each other. But when they're one or two years old right there, they know nothing about that. And it's all human. It's all the same. And everyone's a product of their own environment. Not to get on a tangent. You want to actually know something. We'll get back to the topic. But you know, it's something that really surprised me about the Orthodox people. And you see it a lot here in New York is that they're very, not all of them, but they're not Zionist. Many of them, some of them, but many of them are pro-Palestinian because the state of Israel goes against their holy books, the Torah. I'm not a professional in this, but I did witness it firsthand that we went into one of these very Orthodox communities where, you know, they're all messed up and whatnot. I will say they're, they were completely standoffish. They were kind of fucking assholes to be honest, but like fair play. We're like a foreigner and they're like, but I give them a lot. I give them a lot of respect as much as they were just fucking dickheads. Like I remember we tried to interview one guy and he's just like, all right, make it quick. And he's just like, well, I was like, what does it mean to be Orthodox Jews? Like we don't come in here dressed up like you guys. I'm like, all right. And then he just ended the interview there as much as they were kind of like a standoffish. Like I do have to give them their flowers that, you know, that they think they believe that, you know, because of the teachings of their holy book that, you know, the, uh, the state of Israel goes against Judaism. So they will proudly throw up the, um, the Palestinian flag. They'll paint it all over their walls and stuff. And then the IDF come and they raid the place. They take away the flags, they cover the flags and they'll get into, you're talking about the ones over there, the ones in Jerusalem. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if we want to get into a lot of people say like Israel is like the only democracy, the only place with free speech in the Middle East, but it's just like, well, it isn't the, couldn't you make an argument that Z it's only the only Zionists have free speech there. If you know, you have these Orthodox people who study the Torah all day, every day, and they're like being silenced or being harassed and rated for simply like putting up a flag and not acknowledging that this is Israel. Yeah. And that's the frustrating, one of the most frustrating parts about this whole thing is it's constantly like, so you're saying that this is good. Then when you call out something that they do wrong, they'll be like, oh, so you think like the Iranian government's good? I'm like, no, no one ever said that. I think they're terrible. That's what I hate. It's like, it blows my mind. That's what I hate about the internet. Like, dude, like we just saw the, uh, the Lebanon shit. It was very like non-political. I just wanted to humanize the people, the young kids or the innocent people going through war. The amount of fucking bullshit messages and comments, comments I got, it'd just be like, you support fucking terrorism. You are, uh, you're, you're sponsored by Qatar, all this shit, man. It's just like, can a motherfucker just go in here and just show like that, like innocent people are, um, experiencing war on a daily basis, you know, just humanize people. There was very little mention of Hezbollah, whatever we needed to do to give the history. And some people mentioned them, you know, but for me, it was just like, I just wanted to show people affected by war. And then I posted this and just like, oh, so you, you support a terrorist organization. Listen, dude, you're gonna, you, the internet, as you well know, as you've been in, in a long time, it opens up every realm of possibility of opinions. And the fact of the matter is anytime you do any story, even the ones that aren't controversial, yeah, you are gonna get people to hate you. I, I showed a clip. It was quite hilarious. Of how this clip played out. Maybe you've seen of just a, probably a teenage girl saying, fuck Palestine. Yeah. And people are commenting. You support Hamas. You are Hamas supporter. I got even worse ones. Like did people care to watch that one in context? You were at the market talking with a million different people on this chick insisted on being videoed. You just turned around and she goes, fuck Palestine. Yeah. Anything that shows Israeli society in a slightly negative light. That's what they throw at you. The dirty, the dirty T word. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Should we go back to yes, please. Settler story. Let's do it. So, um, we're there with the American lawyer, right? Uh, in Tarn Messiah and, uh, his family, they own this plot of land where they're been constructing, uh, three homes on there. Um, very nice and big homes, but because of, uh, the settler harassment, they had to stop the project. So there's this, and you can see it in the clip where I'm calling the kid, uh, a pipsqueak. It just looks like a construction site because they've been sitting vacant there. Cause they're so close to the settlement that, uh, the, the daily harassment wouldn't let like, yeah, you can see there. And there, there are three very nice homes home. You probably put a lot of fucking money into this for their family to live. And, um, the project had to be abandoned because these kids who live down in those fields that just are straight ahead, uh, just came. There every day and would harass them. So essentially we're there, we're on the edge where you can see out into his fields, his olive trees and his pomegranate trees, where the settlers have set up a camp. And we're looking at the settlement camp and he's just like, give it three minutes or something. You'll see. And sure enough, we see a quad come out from the settlement, pull up at first. He thought it would be their dad, which if it was her dad, it would be a little bit more civil. Cause this guy obviously on opposing side, but have has had civil conversations with the dad. But he's like, if it's the kids, like we should just go. Cause they're shit disturbers, you know? And of course the kids are worse than the, cause yeah, the, the dad is there. Like he will maybe have a, a conversation with you where the, the kids are just there to harass, you know, imagine that, but, but imagine that how much of a coward do you have to fucking be like, send your children out to do the dirty work that, that includes like fucking being violent, aggressive, real good fucking parenting. Yeah. Um, so he sends the kids there, three kids pop out. I didn't see it, but apparently the, this kid there, then the one with the glasses had a gun on him. The other one was on the phone with the IDF. And this is what happens all the time is you can't do anything like, oh dude, You watch these settler videos and you just, Oh, if I was there, I'd slime that motherfucker out. You can't. You can't do anything, bro, or else you'll fucking. It's a good thing. Like, the thing about Termesaya is that they are. Since I said there's a lot of Americans there, they're a little bit more protected. They have an American passport. Saluki, he has an Israeli passport. I have a Canadian passport. It's much different for people who are strictly Palestinian. They can do whatever the fuck they want. You know, they could call the IDF and they will fucking detain them. Oh, you're resisting and just fucking put them in a prison. What about some of these Palestinian American kids, though? There's been a couple cases I've seen, if I'm remembering them correctly, I hope I am, where they've been killed over there and then they report it to their embassy and they're like, sorry. Yeah, man. I don't know exactly. It sounds like a conflict of interest considering the amount of funding they got from the U.S. But that's the other thing. Malaka, we're paying you. Yeah. So we've got. If you kill one of ours. Yeah, you think it would cause like an international dispute, but it hasn't. And that's what happened there is a 14-year-old American Palestinian who was just visiting there, I guess as a holiday was, ended up being killed. But yeah, so. 14 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were here and, you know, I thought like these kids would come out and be like, yo, what's up, guy? Not what's up, like, but I just didn't expect them. It was just, this was like the kind of like the light bulb went up on me. Like, oh, this is real. Where it's like, dude, we are on Palestinian land. We're on my friend's family's land. Like, and they come up and there's like, leave, leave. You got to go. What the fuck are you talking about? We're literally on this dude's, his own fucking property. And you're this little fucking pipsqueak that's like telling us, get the fuck out of here. We're on the phone with the IDF. You need to fucking leave right now. That's when I like. And obviously it wasn't as. It wasn't as crazy as some of the clips you see online where things get violent. They have sticks. It gets so much worse than this. But even if this was just like a small interaction, that's when the light bulbs went off in my head. I'm like, holy fuck. He also looks older too. This is fucking real. Yeah, maybe he's not. I keep saying 15, but who knows? But still, like, who knows how long he's been doing this for? You know, like he's a young kid. And that's like, dude, after this, I got like, I kind of got a little sad. I kind of got real and vulnerable. In the car, I'm just like, dude, as much as I'm going to fucking troll these kids because it's funny, like, dude, imagine growing up like that. Yeah, you don't know. That's his worldview. He thinks he's the good guy. Yeah. That's why she shops at BJ's Wholesale Club, saving up to 25% off grocery store prices. Home of the save. Open soon. Limited time offer, new members only. BJ's, home of the save. And what despicable fucking parenting. Yeah. Like if you, if you claim you're such a progressive fucking society, you know, there's child protective services, like where we come from. Obviously anything like that wouldn't work. It wouldn't fly. If there's such a progressive fucking society, how can a child his whole life be only told to attack, harass, not attend school. And this is what you're doing. And you're actually doing very noble work, according to our theology, you know? It's so strange. And so in a sense, I do feel bad for the kids because that's the, I was given a childhood. I was given free will. I was given a choice. What I want to go. I want to go to school for the sports I want to play and shit. And they're just fucking grow up like that. So as much as I'm going to clown on the kids, like fucking horrible parenting. Agreed. And it's horrible, but that doesn't matter to them. This is, they're doing something noble in, in their eyes. Is this the one place in, in the settlements where you actually were on the ground or did you go other places in there too? Yeah, we went other places, but we, this was the only, the only like confrontation we had with these young settler kids who like, you know, their job is to harass. Like this is the only incident where it's just like, I wish I, I documented more of this. And if I ever can, I don't think I can go back, bro. I was going to say like, is this the one and done? I mean, I feel like it's gotta be, but if I could ever go back, like that would be the goal is to document the, the legal settlement of the West bank and have more in like document what is actually going on and actually show that things get violent. People get like Palestinians get killed over this. And so, so what happened after that? We have, we have the map here is, you know, you have turn Messiah down there to the South, all between Shiloh in term Messiah is the occupied Palestinian fields. And there's a vineyard in, in, in Shiloh. And, uh, the, the, the, their, their fields that they're taking the grapes farm are essentially occupied grapes, or at least we want to occupy grapes. Yeah. You drink an occupied wine. If you buy that Shiloh, we're going to get sued, bro. I won't say the name of the vineyard, but it's something basic, like the name of the town or some shit. We can bleep it if you want. No, it's fine. Yeah. So dude, me and Saluki were like, yo, let's go to the vineyard and let's ask about the fields and shit. And dude, he, he fucking went so deep into, into the role. He's just like, oh, I'm a Tunisian. That's been displaced from my homeland for my Jewish beliefs. I'm here on birthright. Um, he was at like, there's this lady that was shown around. She's like, so that bless her soul. She was so nice, but she was that she's been there for like, she was like a Jew who like moved back there and had been there for three years. Like she was so nice to us. Um, did you ask her about the settlements? He did, but he was deep in the role. He was just like, oh, what's that time over there. She's like, oh, that's an Arab town. And he was like, oh, those pesky Arabs. Some shit like, like, dude, he was so deep. And I was like, actually concerned. I'm like, bro, you're in so deep on this role. What would her reaction be when he would say shit like that though? I think she just brushed it off and I, and it wasn't like we had a fucking, oh, gotcha moment, but I think like her ignorance did speak very loudly where it's like, you know, we're asking about, oh, are they land disputes here? And she's like, I don't know nothing about that. And she's worked there for fucking three years. We could see the settlement in front of her eyes in the field. She knows everything about what's going on here. And it's, it's made international headlines. What's happening in term Messiah, right. It's all over the, obviously if you live in Shiloh, you know, what's happening in term Messiah and she's just playing, I don't know anything happening, but yeah. And so she's just like, you know, obviously we're like, you know, we're two undercover tourists, like acting like we're fucking I'm a Canadian. That's just like interested in my like trip in the homeland and Saluki as a Tunisian that's being displaced from his home. Yeah. Yeah. And so like, we just, we were like playing tourists and like, when we were actually asking about, she brought us around for 20 minutes, we're asking about the grapes, the vineyard and stuff. But you know, I, when we tried to get what we wanted out of her, it was just straight ignorant. I don't know nothing about that. I just like my grapes and my nice occupied wine. And I feel bad cause she was a very, very nice lady, but I mean, I think her, her ignorance does speak. A lot. And then dude, the crazy part is when we were leaving the vineyard, dude, we saw the settler kids again and we had the same ones and we had to go hide in like a coffee shop. And, you know, I said, there's like a big hitchhiking culture there. Like we had to like find someone to get us, like, like get in their car, bring us to the main road. So like, I think they, they saw us and they were walking towards there. Yeah. I, I was 95% sure it was him. I got a review of the footage, but it was like a moment where it was like, dude, those looking like that. Pretty 100% sure that 90% sure those are the same settler kids that we just, I'd be. Yeah. Yeah. That's an area. And if we did see them again and like, they're the same thing, they could have just called the IDF and like, that's what I'm saying. That's an area where bullets go off. No one's ever going to know nothing. Or even if they know something, nothing will happen luckily. And you're just luckily I'm protected. It's crazy that as a Canadian, I have more rights in Palestine than a Palestinian, right? Because there's been so many situations where, you know, like, um, a, a Palestinian has been killed by a member of the IDF and there's absolutely zero quants consequences. But I think, you know, me as a Canadian, like there, there's much more consequences if something were to happen to me that, and like you said, sometimes something, things don't happen. Like there's what I've been. Who was the girl that got bulldozed settlement like 20 years ago? What? One thing I, I would like to say is that people like Saluki. Yeah. Yeah. People like Saluki who are Israeli and pro-Palestinian and are activists in showing this, um, are very, very important because Palestinians can't do that kind of thing. Um, they don't have like any rights in their own homeland. And if they do try to speak out and do that kind of thing, they're not only susceptible to attacks, violence, arrested, or even being killed. It's just like, even if they posted on social media, they could be detained or something. Like in Israeli is protected by their citizenship. So there is a lot of Israelis that are, um, pro-palestinian there's this one guy named uh andre he's been documenting so much settler violence in the west bank and i need to give him his flowers done amazing job of it and he's i think he's as i know he's israeli he might be israeli russian or something but he's just like an israeli who's like standing for the palestinians and he is protected by his citizenship and i feel like if there is anyone who you know they have that stance and they have that it's just like they can use that citizenship to their advantage so they can document this without going to jail or anything right you know that's when you know they actually get the advantage of you know having free speech obviously there's still like uh like that that andre guy's been detained suki has been detained put in prison but still they're not getting killed like the same way or getting put in prison and torture like yeah way more rights you know so they're doing very noble work because they have that citizenship now we we've alluded to it a few times today in different contexts but the one you did that was 24 hours in israel and 24 hours in palestine so this is like an hour nine minute documentary you put together your day in israel if it's actually like 16 hours on the ground were you filming the entire time uh yeah most of it right it was a short day but that's what i'm saying like even to get it down i think you had like 40 to 45 minutes yeah on that one to get it down from all the footage you probably captured all day that's what i always think about with you guys like the editing you got to do because you're capturing so much good live i think that day was about like four hours of footage the the conversation the conversation with uh uh tal the traveling clad um at the end was about an hour-long conversation reduced like seven minutes got it okay so when you went there though because i really thought you did a great job you you got connected not everyone thought i did a great job i was called bias a lot well it's my it's my opinion on it like you were out front about what you thought of this but you made a by the way i think you spent 45 minutes on israel and 24 minutes on palestine yeah yeah so you spent a lot more time on them for that to happen but i think dude honestly in the in the edit i think more stuff happened in the time i was in israel and dude i'm not going to lie i met some very lovely people a lot of people didn't make me pay or anything but dude my whole point is like dude israel can tel aviv's gorgeous the the women there are gorgeous there's good food that's taken from all these other countries that's not actually their food um i'm just saying like dude obviously it's it's fun to go have a good time in tel aviv that doesn't mean i can't be critical of the government i think that's where people get it up and that was my whole point of like meeting up with the kid tal he's such a nice little little other town little town we prefer to uh tell the traveling clap big tal he was the one who had the conversation far right and then little tal is like he's um he's israeli american but he's like i don't want to talk politics i just don't i want to humanize everyone like you know he's like he has a good heart you know and my my thing with him is just like bro you're you're basically saying like oh people hate israel um but like look how nice it is who the cares if israel is a nice beach obviously tel aviv's beautiful it is like it's world class but who the cares when there's war crimes going like right it's a total what about ism that was my criticism to him and you know he was nice enough to be like all right why if you ever come here like i'll go around with you and that's what i did with him and we went around a lot of people thought the day was orchestrated and just like there was like oh it was set up it's like oh he brought to you to this guy who didn't make me pay i think it was all authentic like yeah so you didn't pick up on and i don't i think obviously he wants me to bring me to the nicest people that right but i don't i don't think it was but you were also catching stuff for people where people had you know but like we already showed the one chick who had rough opinions on camera yeah of course you know what i'm not going to hold this back she's telling me to edit my he's like cut that please why not you guys getting clipped oh he wanted you to cut that she wanted me after she said palestine i'm pretty sure tal was just like you know he has an actual platform and she's just like i love everyone like please come to israel israel loves the world like like that like total total 180. so now did i show like her aggression being like palestine like i showed her complete 180 her shift in town yeah and that's the thing like you being able to just kind of like because like the commentary is hilarious because you were given like instant thoughts when people would say a thing like away from the ear shot and i thought that was like so good because it would either be something like wow this lady's actually really nice or like wow what a you know and people can kind of see the dichotomy that goes on because like you said like you're going to find a lot of people who are good people you're going to find people who are brainwashed and find some people that are bad people that's kind of how it is anywhere that's yeah dude if someone's nice to me like obviously people think i'm biased but do you think if like a nice israeli person like doesn't make me pay i'm just like this doesn't feed the narrative let's cut it out like i i would even like stop people up in the comments because like they're like wow it's crazy that the uh only israeli that didn't let you pay was actually like israeli arab like isn't that crazy i'm like oh no that's not true like the brazilian guy he didn't let me pay like we had like a bunch of stuff from like his so just like no dude i'm just gonna humanize everyone but it doesn't mean if that amazing day in palestine or sorry it doesn't mean if i had a amazing day in talaviv that like i can't be against you know occupation in the state of israel right they're coming for you yeah yeah oh they're out there right now i heard masad's in this building they're gonna dude masad's tuned in they're they're gonna they're gonna knock the doors down on you apparently they're tuned in i've been i've dude i've received a lot of crazy messages and this is i'm just the start of the content and i'm trying to i'm not like uh i don't have crazy like obviously i'm pro-palestinian but i have crazy hard opinions you know like i'm not like extreme about anything but i've received like crazy dms i mean you probably have it too you probably get it too yeah listen you gotta just laugh it off yeah listen when you're getting called pro one side or the other in the same comment section on both ends yeah that's probably doing something and honestly it sucks because like you know i i tried to i wanted to go and check out the west bank but it i'm gonna make like a video and tell aviv i'm gonna see how it is you know how many people were like unfollow like the the sim simply because i got off the airplane in tel aviv and i was just like oh like here i am i'm right in i'm in israel and i'm also going to the west bank and it's just like i wish people could understand my intention like i'm literally here like to um show like uh settlers in the west bank and whatnot and you're telling me you're gonna unfollow me simply because like i'm here in it is a it is a one of the most toxic high button emotional issues i've ever seen yeah i remember when when tommy went to think about going to start to cover it which obviously now he covers it a lot tommy g this is probably i think he called me like summer 2025 he's like i'm really thinking about doing this thing like he wanted to go there and yeah well he wanted to eventually do that and but he wanted to like cover the story and like some of the government overlap in america and i was like dude this is the government overlap in america and i was like dude when you take that step in ain't no stepping out like i know man get it like you've never gotten it before he's like okay yeah no it's like it's something you gotta face like if you're putting out con content from there the the wave is gonna be a much bigger than you expected yeah there were some other friends i had who were looking at doing that story and they did they just didn't understand that i was like fellas but shout out to all the people who have gone and done it like yeah like uh like andrew channel five andrew callahan yeah andrew gallagher yeah yeah sick as yeah shout out to everyone like who isn't just on a university campus shouting from the river to the sea and don't really understand it's not like i understand it more than these people but like it was just like instead of doing that and doing basically putting anything on my instagram like i do believe in this cause i don't know much about this cause but i want to go and see it for myself so good for you man thanks yeah i thought you did a great job so there's plenty more content to come we'll see guys where else did you go uh in in the region or in in the region yeah so i i started off in in lebanon like you saw the clips from south lebanon then i went to syria oh you went to syria i went to syria what's that like right now dude syria like you can tell syria is recovering that's like the best word to describe them but the people are very hopeful and they showed a lot of resilience resilience everyone there has been affected by war whether that be your house got destroyed or you were detained and put in one of these prisons and tortured or just like you're kind of related to anyone that these things have happened to um so yeah everyone there has been affected by war and it was very impactful to see and but you could tell they're also so proud that now they have a fresh start their country that's how they look at it is liberated and even people who are just like so up from war and you know going to prison we're still really wanted to talk to me they couldn't speak english i did it through a translator but they wanted to tell their stories they wanted to yeah just be like this is what happened here one of the most evil regimes of all time but now we're like so proud we're rebuilding so yeah it was a slew of emotions i was only there for four days but like we covered a lot from like places that were completely destroyed people that have been in prison all of that everyone's been affected oh yeah we always talk about it but it's insane how many subgroups were effectively fighting against each other there during that long war it wasn't like 10 it was hundreds and that's the thing is like dude i you know, I tried to do research going in and I'm just like, Oh, this was not straightforward whatsoever. This isn't just like, there was like this regime. And then there was this one resistance movement. It was just like, there was a whole bunch and they didn't all have the same goals and missions. And like I said, I'm not an expert on it, but like it was all types of fucked up, but like, like anywhere is similar to like the South Lebanon shit. It's just like my goal wasn't overly to get political. I just like, I kind of just wanted to go and humanize the people and let them tell their stories, you know, what they've been through and the resilience of these people. And it was the same as South Lebanon, except they experienced this maybe like, like a five or five or so years ago. And, um, it was the same shit. Just like, we won't leave. If we die here, that's God's will. That is something I hear all over the Muslim world is like, they're content with death. If they would rather die than abandon their homeland, where it's like, I don't know if me and you can say the same. We're also so new in this part of the world compared to that part of the world. I mean, that is beyond biblical shit. You know, they've just, it's thousands and thousands of years and it's so ingrained and I can't, I can never fully understand it. I can understand when someone from that is explaining it to me based on just like how they feel about it, but I can't understand how it feels to be in it. Everyone's a product of their own environment. And dude, we just, I don't know exactly how you grew up, but maybe I had a great childhood just growing up. Like I grew up in a small town playing hockey, skating, soccer, just shit like that. I don't have a thing to complain about. Like I think it was the greatest fucking thing ever, comparatively speaking, for sure. I get so much satisfaction when people, their takeaway from my video is gratitude. That's just what I'm going for. I'm glad I have a big Western audience and, you know, people are very grateful for the lives they live. When did it really, like what, what video started to make it really click for you to where it was like, Ooh, I might be able to go fucking do this full time. Hmm. I mean, this is a, this might bring us, bring us back to like videos that aren't so like, like serious, you know, cause this is, this is like, honestly, what I've did here is some of my more serious work. That doesn't mean I'm, Oh, I'm going to go forward. I'm going to go forward. I'm going to go forward and always get political. No, your content's fun. Yeah. It's, it's even, and even when I cover something more serious, like settlers, we're still like, there's still going to be fun aspects like that, like putting on a person, like going into examining the occupied grapes and putting on like a, like an, an alias or some shit like that. Black comedy is one of the best teachers there is. I completely agree. Yeah. Um, when did it make a difference for you? I think whenever. Like, like I was saying, when you take your side hustle and you make it your main hustle, and that was like my second India trip. And I was like, I'm going to go to India. I'm going to go to Pakistan and I'm going to go to Afghanistan all in one trip. I'm going to run India, Pakistan, Afghanistan. Yeah. Yeah. All the Holy Trinity. Yeah. Yeah. That, no, that truly is the Holy Trinity. If you want to get into the content game, if you just want to like clip max and just like, yeah, get into it. And also just throw yourself into like, the thick of like, kind of probably the most stressful travel situations because India is a fucking headache. Pakistan as well. The good thing about Pakistan though, is everyone there is like so helpful and they speak English. So it's like almost easy to get around in a sense, you know, it's not like they don't have the greatest infrastructure or whatever, but everyone there is so kind to foreigners. They're so willing to help you. So in a sense, it is kind of easy to go around Pakistan, but yeah. What's their view on America by and large? No, they love everyone. They do. Bro. Yeah. Dude, so many countries have, they're not fucking dumb. They have the ability to separate their governments from the people. Like, dude, I go to fucking Israel. I met a nice Israeli. I'm just like, dude, you're just a standup dude. You were probably born into this. You're, you're a solid dude. Right. And I think it's like that everywhere around the world. Like, dude, I went to Iraq with my homie, Connor, small brained American. This was a trip was like four years ago. I was talking to sabbatical about getting him on. Yeah. I'd love to have that guy on. Yeah. I need to get Connor on. Connor's awesome. And this was like, this was like four years ago when both of us only had like 2000 subscribers and he was like, kind of worried going into it being American. And I honestly, at that point, I wasn't too familiar with the history and everything. I know I knew a little bit. Of Iraq? Of Iraq, but not the extent, you know? Okay. And he was really. Concerned going into this. He's like, I don't want to get fucking disappeared or anything. I don't want. And they were the nicest people we ever met. We did not pay for a single thing that whole trip besides our hotel. Wow. We'd get in someone's fucking cab and they'd be like, yeah, no, it's all good. And we'd go and we'd have fucking shawarma. No, it's all good. Like, dude, they. After all that, after all those years too. It's not an America thing. It's like, you're a guest thing. They look at it. It's just like. Wow. We're a country with like such a bad reputation and no one wants to come here. And yet you guys chose to come on your fucking holiday year where you could have went to fucking Tulum or Thailand or some shit. And here you are in fucking Iraq. Let's go, baby. Content. Yeah, exactly. Maybe they don't see it the same way. We're just here because of Gary V. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Are you posting. You need to be posting content. You want to go to Tulum? Iraq. You go to Iraq. You got to put yourself in the deep end, man. You got to think outside the box, man. Do something that someone else isn't doing. Oh, my God. He's right there. But you're. So, you didn't pay for a damn thing. How long were you there? We were like seven days in Baghdad. And I would say that the same level of hospitality I received in Iraq, I can say the same thing about Pakistan as well. What's Baghdad like? Because that was a few years ago now. But what was it like at this point? Much more. Much more modern and progressive than I was led to believe. Like, it's not like crazy fucking Sharia law. Like, I saw women just dressed like without. Just out and about, you know? Like, everyone thinks it's just like, oh, you got to be completely covered and whatnot. And then, dude, people were like, we didn't actually go out. People were like, yeah, you can go out. You can party here. You can go to nightclubs here. Nightclubs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very cool. The infrastructure was nice. Like, I mean, there's still some remnants of war. For sure. But for the most part, the buildings were nice. Like, dude, it was modern and progressive and nice. That's awesome to hear. It's like, I mean, holy shit, being put through the ringer there for so long. And it's crazy because, dude, we were both so nervous. And then by the first day we went out and we're like, holy shit, this place is chill. Right. Like, this is. Everyone's such a chiller. Like, everyone want to stop and talk to us. Many people speak good English. It was just like, we were making friends every fucking five seconds. We got invited to so many people's houses for dinner and whatnot. It was awesome. It's like, dude, it's one of those countries. It's just like, you think it's going to be a hard experience as a tourist. And then it just becomes so easy because it's just like, everyone just like reaches out to you and just like, hey, yo, you should come to my house. It's just like, we don't get tourists here too much. Yeah. You said something brilliant a few minutes ago that my friend Eric Zuliger said on the show. A lot of times, and I quote it all the time, where you're like, people are not their governments. Yeah. And you have just lived that in so many places. And it's so great to hear that, like, you could have so many great back and forth, even in a place like that. I mean, shit, they're still fresh off ISIS. Yeah. And all that stuff, you know? Like, that's wild to me. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, that was the point of going to, like, Southern Lebanon. It was just like, dude, I think these people have been demonized so much because of the local government there. Yeah. But that's not them. They're so nice. And, dude, whenever I went there, since they don't have people going there and even covering what they're going through, it was the same thing. It was just like, no one wanted us to pay for anything. If you watch that whole video, like, we went out and we got, like, food a bunch there. No one wanted us to pay. Wow. They're just grateful, man. So, dude, it's crazy that the places that have been so demonized is where you find the most humanity of families in, like, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon. I want to come to Afghanistan in a second. But in Iraq, when you would have discussions with these people over dinner and stuff like that about what they experienced over, say, the last couple decades when it was war-torn, what, you know, I'm sure there's not unanimous thoughts on every single thing or anything like that. But what were some of the main takeaways that were pretty common across people describing that? We had a couple conversations, and they were off-camera. I just think. Everyone there is resilient. And with Syria, everyone has been affected by war. But like I was saying, with, like, a lot of these people from these places, it's just like, when there's war, they don't shy away. I think one of the most impactful stories, my friend Ali said he appeared in, I think, a couple of Conor's videos, maybe one of mine, is that a common thing to see there is, like, say, if, like, I think he remembers experiencing. a block away from him, it was like a shopping mall. uh like suicide bombers some shit like that i don't know exactly the extent of it and after all that the dust settled it wasn't people running away it was people running towards it yeah to like to get people out of the rubble yeah so i think you know people would rather stay and fight and save their own people and rather than shy away and leave their homeland that's amazing so fucking cool i think it's quite a different perspective than than us i think this i mean it's a big theme like us our privileged asses on a fucking podcast and people living through through war have you felt yourself really change as a person over the years doing this and experiencing all these places yes and no i mean it's it's it's hard to say i think i'm i don't want to like i i don't think i'm changed in this like bullshit like eat pray love type way i i can't stand that shit like i'm not like much of a crazy spiritual person and before this i wasn't i didn't i wasn't bigoted or anything but i do do think it just confirmed just like you know people are people i think everyone's a product of their own environment um and i think people you just need to give people a chance you know to get to know people rather just like forming your internet from a fucking pixels on or forming your opinion from a pixels on a screen is absolutely crazy with the amount of misinformation and propaganda in the world like fucking have some balls and go out and experience a place fuck yeah dude i love that thank you i gotta piss again go piss but we'll be right back yeah all right we're back how long after the pullout from afghanistan was it until you went there uh pullout was 2021 and i went there uh kind of summertime of 2024 okay so a few years and i do think there was like um i think it's got actually quite popular amongst uh travel thrill seekers and for content creators for sure and i'm not saying oh i was like i got in there i was like the the first one but i do think i was early to to go and just check it out who did did you you obviously got someone on the ground so how'd you find someone and know they were reliable and you were gonna be all right i had a fixer in peshawar i don't even know how i got this guy's instagram but he was like a journalist like a war journalist in afghanistan like he was from pakistan but did war journalism in afghanistan during the war and then he was connected to her to her company and they got me a fixer to be fair it was a couple youtubers went before me it was like my homie harry kieran eli if i forget the last one i'm sorry um and i i got i asked they said they had a good i don't even want to talk yeah i don't want to talk shit about my guide he was like he was a good guide in the sense that he let me do my own thing was he the most educated and like like upbeat no he's very very shy but i think i use that to my advantage where i'm just like all right you're here if i'm overstepping please tell me i'm gonna do my own thing and i would appreciate if you could translate when i need you to and do you ever get worried someone's translating wrong yeah i mean now that you say it like yeah it's funny i think we'll chop your head off he says he loves you yeah you know what's funny is now that you bring it up not to always keep bringing it back to israel as someone like commented you know like okay if if anything okay i i don't think it was a propaganda tour but there was like a point where someone was like bartering over like something i was buying and someone was like they caught in the video my homie speaking hebrew he's like yo like do a little barter with me like like like basically trying to like be performative like telling him to be performative besides that i don't think it was like a setup propaganda tour but i think there was a little cohesion where like oh we're doing a little barter he's like yo yo let's let's be performative for for the camera so it's like now that i think back to him like holy fuck they could have been saying anything in hebrew that whole time it's just like imagine he wasn't i would have ended up paying for all that shit right i'm not gonna i'm not gonna i'm not gonna get in but who who knows what it's got to be a concern everywhere yeah bro now that you're fucking saying that i'm kind of tuning in like and i've i've had moments where people have been like uh you didn't translate that properly but i'm just like oh well what they said was good yeah that's the one thing you do have it on video so later like when you put it out to the interwebs people can be like someone can be like wait a minute that's not what was said there that helps yeah but i try not to like dude if someone's like just yapping in a local language i probably cut that part out like i put a couple words and then i go to the translator you know all these raw footage exists but it's just like that's a lot to try to make sure everything was accurate for sure definitely some things could get lost in translation you're right but in in afghanistan obviously like enormous fuck-ups on the united states end and and us for years like clearly not having at some point not having a plan as to how that was going to go so it ends up in a full circle moment in all the wrong ways we leave now people are living under taliban rule there there's obviously a subset of population that fully supports that and that subset that doesn't i would imagine at some point you talk to both or uh i talked to a wide variety of people i you know what i wish i wish i did in afghanistan that what i did in my trip to palestine where is like more of like a one and done but at the same time like i said i was with this guy that he was kind of sheepish like i wanted to go up and meet taliban dudes yeah we probably shouldn't like like there was this one time like they were on a swan you know that i don't know if you've seen that place in afghanistan it's this beautiful blue lake it looks like it's somewhere in greece and these people they ride the swans around in them and dude it was it was they're riding swans in the in the lake yeah yeah it's a some big ass swans yeah no no like the like like like like paddle boats but they're like like little like like ducky boats it's so funny yeah so this play uh what's it called bandamere so dude this is like the funniest shit ever so you have these totally gone with that you should have let that yeah bro dude i told you i'm a little slow because the energy shots today so um i imagine this is like a bunch of like ducky boats in that in that lake and the people on it are fucking taliban numbers with ak-47 bro i started filming this video i'm like dude look at the taliban like on their swans with the ak-47s and someone like commented like i had a couple comments like brother i literally thought this was ai like the like i can't believe this is a real uh setting uh yeah just go type in sealantur afghanistan and i think i literally titled it like the taliban love ducky boats or something oh wait no no no no no no no no no no no do the first one do the first show do that first show oh my god oh my god put the value on and this is this is what i mean my guide was sheepish i asked can i go with them he's just like look how gangster that is i kind of want a picture with the taliban let me ask him salam alaikum salam alaikum sir we don't do arms okay i guess at this point i'm just trolling them i'm like oh we don't put our arms around they don't know what i'm saying thank you and he's riding on a fucking all right can we go back to the beginning play to that first shot there goes the taliban there's oh my god i want to join you can understand how this doesn't look real these are hard ass someone got to work on their optics i kind of want to that's wild yeah dude it it doesn't feel real it's like literally their vacation spot when they get a couple of days off they go on a little swan boat while they're like an ak-47 and it was and dude i mean afghanistan is one of the most beautiful countries in the world i've heard that yeah but that place would have been a world wonder somewhere else in the world this is beautiful like crystal clear natural blue lake that looks like fucking kool-aid man and you're in a canyon that's like like almost like the grand canyon it's crazy but obviously what people know from there is just war well it's also crazy that there's so many places in the world that are aesthetically beautiful but it's just the inhabitants of the governments that run them or you know some of the people that have taken charge that ruin it for everyone right you know what's crazy is like if you ask me like where would you go and i'm like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know where would you go and i'm like where would you go and i'm like i don't know i don't know i don't know more safe like on a trip in afghanistan and or like rio de janeiro i'd probably say like afghanistan i could see that i've heard bad things about some of those neighborhoods obviously like the the risk of going to afghanistan is like is things like quote-unquote terrorism and war and shit which sounds like a lot more um worse than like petty crime that you find in rio but that's like on full display like i got i was there in rio during carnival and i got fucking robbed and that was my time you got robbed i got robbed within my third day what happened like pickpocketed or like stood up uh kind of both um it was like after like a carnival celebration i was kind of fucked up and then i ordered an uber and it was just down the street i'm like and i was fully aware i'm like okay like i have to have my guard up and whatever so i'm walking through this like plaza thing i'm like okay my uber is just gonna be just down there like this is chill and um i start to notice around me i'm just like damn all these people are fucking riffraff and i notice a gang of them kind of set their eyes on me so i started veer off veer off and before i know it they ran up behind me and i have a satchel on and they grab it from the back they didn't even unclip it they tore that shit right off me and i just it just fucking tore off my back like i was a tree and they're just ripping a rope off it and then like i turn around they have my satchel and like it was like there was like a bunch of them and i was just like i kind of got the it's just like all right you guys got what you wanted i'm just gonna fuck off and they left you alone they just left me alone after that and then i i had to go be a snitch i talked to the police these the police actually thought it was funny like like i i uh i was like talking to them it was like i it was more like i can't really speak that well portuguese but i speak some spanish so it was like portuguese spanish portuguese spanish kind of both but they understood what i was saying and it got to the point where it's just like they're they're translating some shit just just like okay well maybe you can go into the police station the next morning and like maybe they'll have your shit and i just said something just like what do you mean like you're the fucking cops like go fucking get them or some shit it was like i forget exactly how the conversation went but they thought it was pretty funny that i eventually showed them on translate i'm like you're the police like do your fucking job and then there's like you know what fuck it like let's go they went in no no they didn't they did i they they shook down some other fucking riffraff kid those kids were long gone by then and now yeah i didn't get my shit back which but they gave you the shit that they shook down no unfortunately not and they did it wouldn't have been worth anything because like i lost my camera which had a full two days of footage from the favelas you know that's also a crazy thing i know we're on a tangent here but it's just like dangerous keep going brother like dude being in the favelas felt more safe for tourists than uh being uh like in the streets during carnival like on copacabana or some shit well like let me let me specify being in certain favelas because there's two that are like kind of like gringo pilled there's like can you tell people out there who don't know what a favela is what you're referring to it's essentially an informal settlement that the police don't go to because it's basically ran by fucking drug lords and like anything goes in them but that's the thing is since they're not ran by the police like these drug lords run them it's just like okay you do petty crime in the street the cops will be like oh whatever it's i'm in the favela like that's a good way to fucking get killed you know tammy regularly hauls stuff to her kids at college that's why she shops at bj's wholesale club saving up to 25 off grocery store prices beef jerky microwave meals laundry pods even they can't screw up have you met my kids and with bj's gas she gets there for less they call me the road warrior this is your home road warrior mom home of the save join for just twenty dollars at bjs.com slash mesquite 10 save 10 cents per gallon for six months open soon limited time offer new members only bj's home of the save so in a sense there is it's a very dangerous place to be because you know there's always going to be there could be shootouts it could be like hardcore violent shootings people get caught up in like some raid or some shit but at the same time a lot of the time like whenever it's like these drug lords who control the place it's just like people kind of like act civil there's much petty crime and shit and a lot of these places funny enough are being stimulated by tourism like in vigigal is considered almost like this luxury favela because it has this amazing view of the beach and all of rio and so people have started to um set up hostels and shit there i remember like seeing uh instagram or some uh tiktok of some girl being like i reserved this hostel i didn't realize it was in a fucking favela and i feel very unsafe but from what i gathered about the favelas especially to vigigal and racina is since they do have tourism infrastructure people go there they might stay there in a hostel or they might take a tour essentially as a gringo like you're off limits like no one's gonna fuck with you because if you fuck with the gringo population who's bringing economy into your favela like that's a good way to get like fucking disappeared by someone so like there's actually a fair economy right now between those two favelas with tourism and that's why i say you're probably more safe in one of these favelas than being on the streets certain times certain places because i got robbed in a tourist area granted it was like maybe like 2 a.m or some shit and i was just like down a like a riffraff street but still it was like a tourist area in like downtown rio de janeiro versus i spent two days in the favelas with i don't know a guy who like he he didn't say anything about the favelas it seemed like the you see he was a pretty sketchy kid to be honest and he was he knew all these guys who went around and oh dude people open carry there like the people who run the shit they open fucking carry there so imagine that this is like the type of type of shit like no mother wants to hear about their child going on a fucking yeah what do your parents think all the shit you do no they've been so supportive they're they're dope and they know i'm not a fucking idiot that's a thing bro it's like i uh i i'd say now after living and i'm pretty happy with my life and i'm pretty good at risk assessment um i always give like the analogy it's just like i have a lot of people from my hometown being like dude what you do is crazy and like uh you you definitely could you're risking your life it's just like i don't even see it that way sometimes the behavior people get up to in my small town i consider risking your life when you know you take drugs that haven't been tested you drink and drive you do all that shit that sounds a lot more um risky to me than going on like a guided tour of fucking afghanistan or some shit like that so it's different perceptions of risk i'd say and so but this is the one of those moments just like dude no parents want to hear about like their kid who like went to fucking rio and now they're like with some guy who like probably does bad illicit activities in the slums and like he was bringing me around and like dude i was shaking hands with the dudes with the ar-15s and they're there in like a populated street like where people are partying in the street just chilling there open carrying massive fucking guns just probably smoking a joint or drinking and then dude also in these favelas there's these tables where you can like get any drug under the sun and like there might be like a 15 year old working them anything fucking goes there dude they don't have to hide any of that activity so it's the absolute wild wild west but at the same time like if if you go there as a tourist you're kind of protected which is it's weird to be like dude these are these fucking drug lords with ar-15s and i'm a businessman and i'm safer here than a place where the police actually fucking frequent who don't usually don't do shit i was lucky enough that they actually did shit but dude 95 of the time like you get robbed and tough shit it's fucking real they're like that they're like sometimes oh yeah yeah exactly well welcome to hoboken yeah yeah i've been we got robbed in jersey city one time and went to the cop station it was a lot of fucking it was like yeah 12 15 000 worth of stuff bunch of hard drives like cameras all that and they're like yeah best of luck to you yeah man like fuck perception of risk is weird it's not always what you would think you know and that's why i always use the analogy of like okay i might be doing crazy shit in the world but just like dude you can live a pretty fucking risky life in a safe country like canada or the us if you have really bad habits you know outside of that moment though where you're getting robbed and then are able to get away from it did you have any specific moments where the hairs on the back of your neck were standing up and you're like oh my god i'm in danger and what were those moments i think the scariest um moment of my travels and i'm really glad it happened to me was in columbia where i had a gun pulled on me for being in the wrong place in the wrong time and dude like the reason i say i'm really glad it happened to me because like i think i got it i was under the impression from you know like traveling around enough and nothing happened to me being like oh like the world's not as sinister as i believe i know i'm praising like oh dude like i've traveled to afghanistan it was safe but at the same time you still need to take some fucking precautions that's right especially in south america and shit so it's just like i was like on i i was in medellin and i just kept going to like different barrios taking the gondola up and just like exploring these barrios i think i did like a couple days where i just went fine and then i just went to the wrong place where essentially like similar to the the favelas in brazil that they're run by essentially the mob and it wasn't necessarily me the problem was the filming is that i was there filming and i got surrounded by a bunch of dudes like and they grabbed me by the shirt and made me delete all my shit and i thought i was good i'm like all right i'm just gonna get the fuck out of here And then I was on my way out, and some kid, he was probably, like, 18 years old, he, like, he starts walking with me. He shows me he has a badge of some sort, and then shows me his gun, and he's just like, let's go this way. And I'm like, okay, I guess we're going this way. And we're in, like, a favela, like, a slummy-looking area. He brings me down this path where it's, like, a bunch of shacks on one side and a ravine on the other side. It's me, him, and his two, like, young friends. I assume they're all, like, 18, and he's asking me for ID and shit. And, dude, I didn't bring anything with me. I'm just like, oh, just in case something goes south, like, you know, I'll just bring my camera. I won't bring, like, my wallet or my ID. I'll bring just a little bit of cash in my satchel and sit. And the reason he's asking is he's just, like, wanted to know who I am, just like, so I'm not a fucking off. People told me from this experience, if I was Colombian, they could have capped me. It's just, like, it's better that I was Canadian. Just, like, I was just basically saying, like, dude, I'm just a stupid fucking tourist at this point. Right, it seems like that's been to your advantage in a lot of different places over the years. Of course, dude, and my white privilege. No, no, I didn't even mean it that way, but sure, yeah. But, like, the fact that, like, you're pointing out in Brazil, they don't give a fuck about the people that live in their neighborhood. They'll police them however they need to, and if that's by the gun, it's by the gun. But you're bad press if they police you. Yeah, same thing in Palestine, bro. I had more fucking rights than a Palestinian in Palestine being Canadian. But anyways, yeah, so they just were kind of, like. Asking who I am, and, like, he was getting frustrated because, like, I had no ID. I was just, I can't remember saying, my Spanish isn't great, so I'm like, solo quiero salir. Like, I just want to leave, you know? And then I think he just got to the point where he was frustrated. He didn't take out the gun and, like, put it to my head. He's just, like, he just got out the gun and he was just whipping it around all frustrated and shit. And he took my satchel off me and went through it and shit. And eventually he just let me go. And, dude, I honestly left that place like a bitch. Like, I just fucking dipped. Like, scared shitless. I thought he took my camera, actually. So, like, I went, I walked an hour to the train station. You walked an hour after that? Yeah, yeah, like, down the slum, down the favela, because they're all built into hills, basically. And then I look in my bag and I'm like, holy shit, my camera's still in there. I thought they took it. So, it was clear, dude, these dudes weren't trying to rob me. Like, they were just trying to look out for the sanctity of their operation. And that's why this young kid was given a position of power and a badge that. Says he's some kind of security, that he looks out for this neighborhood and he just watches over it. And if there is anyone who's just seems like a threat, especially a gringo with a fucking camera filming what could be these houses where operations going on, filming people who are doing illicit activities and whatnot, obviously he has to, you know, go address this. Right. And he's a young kid in a position of power. He gets a fucking gun. I get to point this gun at a gringo. This is the best day of my life. Um. And I'm. Like I said, dude, I'm really glad that happened to me because like, I realize I'm like, dude, you can't just go around the world and just like not take precautions. Like, I want to do shit. Like, I want to go places like war zones. Like, why do you take precautions when you're going over? It's always the connection. It's always the connections. You need a good connect. So for me, it's just like, just don't go alone somewhere. Go with someone you can trust and you can know. How do you know you can, especially when you're just meeting someone on the internet? Like. How do you know? I mean, when I went to the south of Lebanon, that connect was through Arab, Arabs, the homie. I trust Arabs so much. Anyone Arab hooks me up with I'll, I'll trust. And sometimes, you know, like I, I didn't, I haven't trust people. Sometimes it's like, you know, maybe you, you make a connection and then you just abandon it. You know, I don't actually don't know if that's happened. Maybe it's just like, oh, we had plans for a couple of days and I kind of like was after one or two, you're just not feeling it or something, but yeah, like sometimes, or sometimes, you know, you go and you meet for coffee the day before or something like that. It's always facilitated through, through Instagram or something like that. But I think that Columbia experience is just like, dude, you can go do crazy shit in the world, but under the right circumstances, you can't go into shit blind because. Right. Yeah. So glad, glad it happened to me, but definitely the most scary experience of my life. It wasn't scarier than the cannibals. Oh, the cannibals in a. That island. Yeah. In West Papua. Yeah. No, because I knew they wouldn't eat me. How did you know the cannibals weren't going to eat you? Because the cannibals eat people they go to tribal warfare with, and it's not out of sustenance. It's out of almost like a ritualistic, we defeated you purpose. Like they eat their heart or some shit like that. I look, I don't know the intricacies of it, but that's just the way we were talking to them. It sounds like this. They have. They have enough food that they're, they're good. And also cannibalism had been outlawed there for 60 years, but we found someone old enough who had experienced cannibalism before the missionaries showed up and outlawed it. How did you hear about these people? My friend Dakota had spent a lot of time in West Papua. That's a crazy thing about Indonesia is like, dude, people don't even realize like this is part of Indonesia. Indonesia is such a diverse country. The analogy I will say is that like, okay, Indonesia, it's very wide. And you have all these islands and the very, um, north, uh, west of Indonesia is a place called Ache and they are under Sharia law. And then to the very east of Indonesia is West Papua, where they literally are tribal people who will walk through the town bare naked. So what a dichotomy. Yeah. What a dichotomy, man. Talk about diversity. Yeah. Yeah. So my friend Dakota has spent some time there and amongst. The tribal people and, uh, I guess convinced me and my homie Jacob to come. And I guess our goal there was to find a cannibal, someone who ate a human. The first day we spent in our guides village was to be fair, it was kind of more of a touristic experience where like, you know, they, they do put on the stuff and they do the song and dance, but that was awesome. You know, like they're, they're not always wearing the traditional stuff every day of their life, but when you get deep into the communities, that's when they're not doing like the song and dance for communities. Like, or they're not. They're not doing the song and dance for the tourists. They legitimately wear the traditional Kotika, which is this thing that goes over your penis that it's like a, a big rod and that's all they wear. And like I was saying, you'll, you'll see people walk through the town completely naked besides a Kotika like this. I mean, they got to keep that fucking thing up. Yeah, exactly. They, they say it just stays hardwood the whole time. Yeah. You can see, yeah, you can see them. Yeah. This is what a Kotika is. We can't show this on screen. Oh, can you not? Okay. That sucks. Maybe. Maybe you can just show a Kotika on its own. I think, damn, that sucks. You can't show it. Maybe with some censoring or something, but. God, that takes serious discipline. Yeah. Just fucking rolling around. Bro. So we, we, when we were with the first village, right? Yeah, the one with the eye right there, you know, that's going to, that's down with the, with the, yeah. You know, that's going to show you what you need. No, they're completely naked. They don't have Kotikas on. Never mind. Wait, but did you, wait, scroll, do you want me to point out where they're actually wearing the Kotikas? Scroll up. See those people there in that one? Yeah. Click on that. If you zoom in, you can see they all have Kotikas on. See? See over their cocks? It's like a piece of wood coming up from their cocks. Are they? Oh, yeah. So it's tied up as well? It's tied up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So they could be soft. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you don't need to be chubbed up. It just keeps it in a chubbed up position. Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. God, you make one wrong cut though. It could like. And that's, and that's all they wear. And, and in the more tourist village. In the more tourist villages, or like in the more tourist place that we went, they actually like, we, we purchased some of them and we put them on. And I was the chief, like he was straight up helping us put it on. It's not like taboo there. It's just like, yeah, we're just going to assist you putting it on. Take a little cup of the balls on the way? Oh, more than just the balls. Like he was. Oh, he put a finger up in it too. He was stuffing the whole thing in there, man. There you go. And yeah, and then I went out and all the women approved and yeah, we just danced around. What do you mean all the women approved? I just went out. I went out and all the women were like, oh wait, go back, go back, go back one picture. This is a, this is a mummy. So. It's a mummy? That's a mummy. So they'll mummify their ancestors. I think I saw this exact mummy. So if you had like a, a legendary chief or something, they will, when he dies, they'll take, bring him in a, in a cave and they'll cover him in pig's fat and put him over a fire to essentially for five months, I think it is. Five months. Five months or something until he's completely. He's completely mummified like that. And you know what, dude, like I was saying, the Kotika is sacred. So some of them have Kotikas that are different shapes and whatnot. I think for just a general person, it's just a straight one, but some of them are different like bends and whatnot. So a lot of these chiefs, they're very proud of their stance and the village, their position. They have these interesting Kotikas. They get mummified with their Kotikas on. So like you'll find a mummy like this and you'll still see, he's got the dong holder on and you just. Yeah. He looks like a, like a fucking saggy skeleton outside of Halloween. Yeah, exactly. It's, it's, it's fucking surreal. And you, in these villages, you'll find these all the time and they preserve them very well. Like in these huts, like they don't even, some of them don't even let them get into light. There's this one crazy one. I don't know how we made this connect, but this felt like the most like raw travel shit. And it was just like, we just, we heard from our gods. If you go to this house this one guy will bring you through the jungle then he'll call out to the village across the river to come pick you up in a canoe he picked up us in a canoe bare naked brought us into his village brought us into a fucking hut to see his mummified great great great great great great great grandfather it was it felt so chilling in the hut yeah yeah just just chilling in the hut so and you just get in there and you just sit down you just chill with the crispy grandpa and you just kind of chill dude and that's that's life there um what am i looking at here didn't uh just some men so essentially in wait what was she holding up there okay yeah i saw that a little too fast there was um just saying about 60 years ago you you you missionaries came to this land before that there was a lot of naughty behavior right maybe you wouldn't even know you call it naughty because they it was it was normal for them you said that though you were starting to explain that so prior to that they used to have tribal warfare and when they would win they would do didn't like the aztecs do that too where they'd like eat the heart or i might have just sorry i was like someone made that up they it wasn't even their enemy i think they would have a sacrifice you know we'll gotten a bunch of shit for this on the internet i said i know people get upset about that one yeah yeah but no i think i think you you do have a fair point and i think it's pretty documented that they would sacrifice not even their enemy just like young children and eat their heart and some shit so you met a guy though that had had lived through that and had eaten another human heart yeah he and he said his ghost was like haunting him basically oh and we asked him like about everything about like you know like um how they prepared it how it was eaten he said it tasted good um he said the human heart tasted good yeah and there's just the flesh in in general um he didn't have the language we'd have yeah the language skills to go into it oh was it gamey was it like this that was it was it similar to anything but yeah he said he tasted how close were you sitting to this guy um well he was very old so if you try to make a fucking move on me i'd slug that mother all right that's good yeah no he was like there was your dude he was like fucking in his 80s like he was old and he was you weren't like he was about he was a he was a man of high power you he might become one of those crispy crispy yeah yeah sounds like a little bit like hunter biden talking about crack though like yeah he's getting a little excited oh he was getting so excited bro it was funny because like okay so what happened is you know we got done at the the touristy village and we made our way deeper into west papua and do none of you the roads even fucking work because they don't even get fucking funding from the indonesian government because they want independence and shit so we're we're basically like walking along the road and we're walking along roads until we get this tiny little village and uh one of the guys hosting us i think he was the school teacher and he was very excited that foreigners were there his name was lawrence bless his soul he's such a nice guy and he's just like hey do you want me to show you around we're like sure why not and he brings us to his grandpa's house and his grandpa comes out of the the hut and this isn't performative or anything this is just natural he comes up butt ass naked besides the kotika on and so we go and he was excited that like oh foreigners here we can talk to them he excited to sit down and talk with us and we thought we had to tread lightly so what dakota said was like is it true the yali tribe eat people and the yali tribe is like they're ops basically so it wasn't like he didn't want to be like is it true you eat people he wanted to tread lightly and be like oh is it true those savage motherfuckers out there eat people you know and then we kind of get into what about here like and he's like yeah we do that well we did do that too and so it's like have you ate a person like yeah and he was getting like after once we started getting he was getting real into it like he was stoked like we thought we were like oh maybe he's gonna be offended if we asked him this bro he doesn't even know what america is this dude does not this dude does not have a phone this is the one life he lived like he was so stoked to talk about the good old days with us he was getting fired up cursing out the missionaries yeah i don't know if people heard that what was it deep goes his katakas raising up nature's viagra reminiscent on cannibalism no but it's true he's like he gets like probably not much exciting stuff happens in these village on a day-to-day basis so when you get to talk about like the most fucking intense time in your life when you're like a young 20 year old going to battle and killing someone and then eating their fucking so yeah how did that work did he like drag the body off the battlefield and like roast it or you just fucking go go ham right there apparently apparently yeah they they bring it back and they they pig roast it like uh and and then like the villagers like whenever like a piece gets kind of ready they'll just go up and like pick off the ready piece and like it's like a shawarma you know those shawarma skewers it's just like when you take the layers off like some get more cooked so like as like the outer layer is getting cooked like okay this piece is ready take it off and then this is what i gather from from our conversation with them and dude the the crazy thing is as much as this shit has been outlawed uh oh it's out it's outlawed there outlawed west papua and papua new guinea uh i mean to specify on the geography west papua is a state of indonesia the island of papua is divided into two west papua state of indonesia and to the uh east of that is papua new guinea it's right it's its own country but they share a lot of similarities as far as like tribal culture from what i heard like i mean we had to fly into this village that you could only access by plane called wamena so it was very remote but then people are way out there in like the highlands of west papua they could be living doing whatever they want they say the tribal warfare is outlawed and we met people who said only two years ago they went to war with another tribe and they'll go to war with another tribe literally just on the block of the town you know you can find this on the internet papua new guinea people going to travel over spears and bow and arrows and shit and it's literally just on the street and i think i and there's dudes just taking pictures yeah i remember like um i think it was like an australian i think i heard i don't know how i heard this story it was like something about an australian expat who lived in papua new guinea and he drove by these dudes and they're clearly like going to war he's like what's going on and he's just like he's just like oh we're just fighting these guys over here and obviously like since they're fighting the other tribe they're just like oh we're just fighting these guys over here and obviously like since this they have nothing against this australian they actually really love foreigners there they're just like yeah we're just fighting these guys over there it's like watching a moose fight but it's yeah yeah exactly so yeah dude it's crazy because you can still find tribal warfare is this footage of it dave i don't know if it's footage but three years ago okay don't put it on the screen but let's see if we can see it on our end over here well just take the volume off let's see if we can find the footage is there can you see any footage yeah yeah yeah holy shit look how big that definitely can't show this on screen all right go go back to that now just play it without the volume no fucking way yo they got like fans like watching up there dude and that's like yeah dude you just go and spectate and they're literally like this is like there's hundreds of them going to war and they're they're about to fight on the street bro their battleground is literally like the paved street so i guess they're trying to outlaw it but like bro they're they're so down with the shits so yeah i want to do you think i'd get canceled if i went there and just watched some of that no no it's it's like watching history what if right in front of you what if i participated in cannibalism well you'd get canceled for that yeah wait but that's a fine reason i will own that if people want to there's a yeah yeah no not not the army hammer thing that this was some guy went and visited like an active cannibal tribe and they made him eat something who the it was yeah that's what he fucking says no no it's on video yeah but maybe he had like yeah maybe he had like uh he's really wanted to do it he's like they're forcing me to they're gonna kill me if they know that's what i'm just gonna say if i if i had that's what i would say if i if i wanted to do it be like oh i'm gonna i'm gonna be dinner night okay that's that's not it there's there uh was it was it the other guy oh i think it's piers gibbon i want to say it's him we definitely can't play the footage he is shook dude like having a catatonic fucking like is he a journalist yes i'm i'm remembering this from somewhere in the annals of my mind where i've seen this footage but he's sitting around a campfire outside it's daylight and the dude is like handing it to him hard and he has i feel like i'm remembering that right and he is fucking shook that's some of the craziest footage ever no that's not it that's not the guy am i am i fucked up i'm kind of like a new footage it's h fucking d am i fucked up to be like i'm i'm kind of interested in cannibalism like interested in watching them do it just in everything every aspect of it it's just it's very it's it's extremely fascinating that's that a human being would eat another human being right you want to dude i'm so dyslexic right i saw a post on facebook the other day and it was something like top one the cnn one right there that's the one we definitely can't play no no go back that was the wrong one the cnn one we definitely can't play it no those are agoris bro i was gonna get into the agori stuff because i've met these motherfuckers too this dude was shook it's reza aslan dude yeah so but that's the thing these guys aren't hostile they're not gonna force you to eat or else they'll kill you you know yeah i don't think no disrespect to reza i don't think he's like that you know what i mean and i think he was just i want to know i want to meet real agoris who actually participate in cannibalism yeah because i have met agoris but they're posers like there's i have a clip that goes insanely viral every time i post it and it's like one of these guys and he's saying like oh we eat humans like and all this crazy shit but like i think they were more so posers like they've never actually done it they were just kind of like the camera was rolling and they were kind of just saying their piece and being like hopefully this tourist gives us money but real agoris don't give a fuck about money they just they're just in it for the love of the game yeah you know so i would love to meet some real agoris who actually fuck with cannibal this guy was saying to him he's like i'll cut your head off and fucking feed it to you though all right i'd be like let's let's fucking box bro let's throw down right now and they had to get there i'm trying i haven't seen this video in a long time i'm trying to remember where it went and if they made him eat but he was shook he's fucking shook i mean i'm for sure and people obviously we couldn't show that on the screen for obvious reasons but yeah i agree it is extremely fascinating it's just like the it might be like the darkest possible thing like yeah definitely killing and eating your own kind the thing about the agoris is they don't kill them is they they um the people get cremated on the goths of uh the the ganges uh people go to the city of veronasi and they believe if they're cremated or if they die in the city of veronasi and they get cremated on the goths that is like the final not resurrection to heaven i don't know if i'm quoting this hindu belief accurately but it's like that stops the cycle of reincarnation then they reach nirvana right if you don't die in veronasi and you don't get cremated then you get uh reincarnated into who knows what right but if you go to veronasi and you die you get um this stops that cycle but if there's a lot of different types of people if they die they're not allowed to be cremated that's things like children someone who has leprosy or some other sickness really specific ones like if you got bitten by a snake they don't let you cremate leprosy yeah if you died with leprosy you can't cremate uh if you got bitten by a snake you can't cremate if you're pregnant you can't cremate so a lot of these bodies that just get put into the ganges and that's when these agoris take the bodies out of the ganges and they eat them essentially that's just what i heard but it's pretty proven but like those agoris would tell you that the same they're very intense they're they're very they dedicate their lives to i guess but just a very extreme form of it where they cover themselves in human ashes um they eat human bodies and yeah well again you you talk about environment that's what they know oh yeah that's that's the dark part of it it's it like I I don't wanna make the wrong kind of comparison here but there's something even way darker to me about say like you know a serial killer and who grew up in America becoming a cannibal or something like that because it's like well you you know way better when you see like a remote tribe doing it it's obviously up but you're like damn this is like a part of their ancient tradition that's beat into them from the time they're born yeah like that's strange so I I would be very interested to see what they or that journalist did was actually like hang around the cannibals and see their right traditions and just document it versus it's problematic when you're around people who go to tribal warfare and like that involves killing and whatnot which that's bad yeah that's pretty bad but you know like if you just have crazy people who are fishing dead bodies out of the river and they're gonna do it anyways and it's like okay I might be interested in in filming this hopefully it would hopefully it gets to be canceled that'd be funny yeah hopefully they can make a line hopefully I could go on Piers Morgan again yeah what were you on for last time uh because I'm I'm a tally bro because oh he brought you on for that and dude it was so do you condemn the Taliban yeah some it was just like I he was giving me for essentially just going to Afghanistan as a terrorist and I don't think he liked that dude I was one of the only tourists who went there and actually like talked about the gender apartheid there are so many creators who write you know it's just like I went there it's like hey maybe it's not as bad as the Western media like portrays it as like they're locked up in cages but still like I still think you covered it is very bad and um I would like to commentate on it like I don't like what what's going on here you know I talked about it and dude that's one of the things I wish I did more of like when you talk about one and done I just kind of wish I went there talked about more because I firmly believe in like that like I did that it's wrong it's wrong it's wrong it's wrong it's wrong and I didn't like what I saw there man like it was a beautiful country but people I've heard people went there oh it's the best place ever like people are so nice and like I went there like yeah the people were nice but I'm just like dude I did not like what I saw there it was sad to me man Afghanistan yeah especially when it comes to like women's rights and the gender apartheid there dude it was just really sad to see did you tell Pierce that when you were on uh not really it was me like trying to come to the defense of I guess Harry and Arab right because I mean Arab went in there and had conversations that no journalist has ever really had and they're giving them the other girl on there her name was yalda she was a journalist I believe for the BBC and she was talking about she went in there and she asked questions and she got chased out by rocks yeah it's like well what's the difference it's like you were literally the only difference between you and him is you have this multi-million dollar media conglomerate on your back well Arab just an individual who went in there and you know asked questions and sat and ate food with them right what's the difference you know yeah let people see it and he came out with footage that no one has ever gotten me and him had very different nuanced takes on the whole thing but you know yeah you should be able to go in and cover and bring it out and let the people see it yeah I'm with exactly no I kind of wish like looking back and I think I I was proud of like some of the stuff I did there like the the small blurbs of conversations or like just things in the moment where I said like talked about women's rights but I kind of wish I did it a little bit more but I was also scared as well like dude I was hiding my footage when I was leaving the country just in case you know like oh you you came here and make YouTube videos can we see what you you shot we just might make sure it's good and nice and then imagine do you like they saw you like talking you never know the Taliban government yeah what could happen so I was a little scared but I kind of wish I even said more but I'm glad I am proud of the stuff I said on that matter have you spent some time with like some of the remote tribes in in the Amazon yeah I have what's that like uh so I spent time with the warani tribe warani um I'll be honest they do get a little bit tourists I wouldn't say it's performative but on a daily basis would they go out and hunt monkeys no but they still want to do that to preserve their culture and their tradition so you know we wanted to go and meet up with them and uh essentially see the practice of a monkey hunting with with blow guns they they make they find a vine deep in the Amazon that has a poison a tranquilizing poison and they extract the I guess juices from this vine and they put it on the tip of these uh blow darts and then they take cotton to stuff it in there and then they and we use them and we were with them and they got some to them even like me I don't got pipes like these big warani dudes like you know they got that they can really blow on that bro so but I was thoroughly surprised how accurate those blow guns were like no I don't know um we we just put an apple up and we were a good like maybe what like 40 meters away from it and like it took me a while to hit it but I eventually hit it so they have accuracy so they can really like get these monkeys in the trees and when they get them the monkeys are like in Mars man they're tranquilized so it's it's not like that kills them it's just like they get tranquilized and they they just loosen their grip and they just fall out of the trees and then they kill them yeah then then they kill them yeah yeah basically so we spent three days hunting with the ronnie and it took us to the third day to actually get monkeys but we got three of them because we found like spider monkeys or you remember uh I don't know the stereotypical monkey for to them it's just food you know um uh that's so close to us in the evolutionary tree man yeah oh I've seen some of those videos and I'm eating monkey and it's like but at the same time you know unless you're a vegan like your meat option is something that's went through Factory Farming where this is the most ethical and sustainable um consumption of meat just hunting sure but like you know maybe hunt something else you know what i mean i mean the but they don't see it that way they don't see it as like they they see themselves as like a fucking an animal in the jungle like do you think of like when we see a lion grazing on a fucking gazelle we don't be like that lion should have some remorse like what the gazelle is beautiful why don't you go kill something that isn't so beautiful right some shit like that like um no i'm all i'm obviously like the people that sit at home and be like we should all just go vegan and this doesn't make any sense or absolutely out of their fucking mind that's i'm not against that at all it's just like a monkey is just a little bit dangerously close to a human for me that's just my thought i get it and i guess i never really made that connection i mean here i'm the guy who's saying i'm into fucking cannibalism of course what's that uh the the skin was very rubbery but when you got down to the meat it was like kind of like smoky it was like kind of like smoky and porky and yeah something like that but i did the skin was just so rubbing rubbery and gelatinous i couldn't get over that so i only nibbled on it a little bit but it was interesting yeah that's more than i would have done i ate monkey in this another interesting thing they eat in this village is it's more of a beverage it's called chicha and chicha they take um yuca cassava and they uh they first they boil it and then the women uh take it and they chew it up and they spit it out in this big like almost like a hollowed canoe that it's like because they make it in massive batches this is a job only for the women it's sacred none of the the men go and kill their monkeys the women they chew the yuca and they make chicha whoa the most so in the amazon chicha is a very popular drink in the amazon you don't have to make it the traditional way the spit way but the spit way is the most traditional way of making chicha so they they chew it up mix it with saliva they spit it out in the bucket and they start mashing it up and then i think they mix it with water chicha on or sorry yuca on its own it's actually very dangerous to eat if it's not cooked so they let it ferment for about a week and so we did that at the start of um by the end of our week there we actually got to try the chicha and it since it's like been a week fermenting it's a little boozy so it's spiritual they do a little chicha dance they present you chicha and so you're essentially like drinking like um that it has saliva particles of the ladies i mean it's been seven days so all the bacteria is probably killed off by now but it's just kind of crazy you know like dude i mean i posted all these clips and people think it's so disgusting of like these ladies like just chewing it up spitting it out and then me like i mean it just cuts to me and i'm like oh my god it's so disgusting and i'm like oh my god it's so disgusting me drinking and obviously there's a whole process in between that the fermentation process and this isn't just like and people are i remember people would come and be like this is just like the the drink they give to the tourists i'm like this is a beverage that is this is something this is a a practice that is thousands and thousands of years old like do you realize how like much experimentation with the jungle you need to go through to actually realize oh we take this root we chew it up we make this beverage how much experimentation of like oh if we take this vine it becomes like tranquilizing these you can tranquilize these monkeys like these people have clearly lived there in this jungle for thousands and thousands of years and they're part of the jungle it's so cool that you get to go to all these places and experiences some stuff would not be for me other stuff i feel like i'd be there with you that'd be i'd love to bring you somewhere sometime let's do it let's do it i've talked with some of the other guys about it what piques your interest fucking everything bro i mean like you saw we went all over the map today a lot of people were like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm not in that does would you be more into something that's natural like the amazon i've been to the amazon okay would you be more something that's like a little bit more politically not politically charged but more like uh maybe like a sensitive area like like who knows like afghanistan or pakistan or iraq i probably couldn't go to some of those places because of what you said on this yeah that makes a lot of sense there's there's about five six countries in my mind that i will never set foot in okay for sure brother if you ever have any idea of a place you want to go to just hit me up fuck yeah you can do something fun all right everyone go subscribe to this dude seal on tour go follow him on instagram we'll have the link down below you can click if we 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