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Candace Owens ADMITS No Evidence Israel Involved In Charlie Kirk Murder w/ Kevin Smith

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Candace Owens ADMITS No Evidence Israel Involved In Charlie Kirk Murder w/ Kevin Smith

The podcast panel opens with a critical examination of Candace Owens' debate performance, where she conceded no direct proof that Israel killed Charlie Kirk, relying on unsubstantiated claims like 12 Israeli cell phones near the shooting. The hosts dismiss her theory as baseless, noting Tyler Robinson's confessions and DNA evidence, while warning that conspiracy narratives could undermine potential trials. They pivot to Luigi Mangione's guilty plea to federal stalking charges, viewing it as a strategic move to avoid capital punishment in New York state, with one host predicting a lighter sentence and eventual release, reflecting broader cynicism about the justice system. The discussion then shifts to a Daily Caller report on a CCP intelligence official with sniper training purchasing property overlooking the White House, sparking debate over foreign ownership of U.S. real estate. The hosts advocate for restrictions, though they acknowledge legal workarounds and constitutional tensions. Throughout, they connect these stories to a larger theme of institutional distrust, citing COVID-era lies, economic hardship from money printing, and leftist anger that glorifies figures like Mangione. They argue that systemic critiques often lack viable solutions, comparing the healthcare backlash to broader class warfare that harms small business owners, while emphasizing that America remains the best system despite its imperfections. The tone is skeptical of both government narratives and revolutionary impulses, urging pragmatism over conspiracy.

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Candace Owen and Andrew Wilson are on the PBD podcast today and they are talking Charlie Kirk. It is the hottest ticket going on the internet right now and I am already exhausted. So we're going to talk about that a little bit. Luigi Mangione has decided that he's going to plead guilty, likely to try to save his life because this is a capital murder trial. So we're going to get into that. We've got some interesting information about the Chinese Communist Party buying a basically an overwatch position of the White House. So the CCP or someone from the CCP who actually is a trained sniper has purchased a or rented a property that overlooks the White House. So that's probably a bad idea. We'll talk about that. There's another issue with fraud, foreign-born Massachusetts mayor. Allegedly he can't even speak English, but he's been arrested for millions of dollars in COVID fraud. So we'll get into that a little bit. And there's a suspect that's been arrested in a world in the World War II Memorial Vandalism in Washington. Donald Trump has made a lot of accusations about people trying to harm his presidency because they're vandalizing the reflecting pool and etc. And there has yet to have been any kind of significant evidence. But this actually looks like it's a legitimate, you know, Vandal caught, arrested and all that stuff. So we'll talk about that. But before we get into any of that, head on over to cast rue coffee and buy yourself some coffee. Right now, Mary's ghost blend is leading the pack probably because people are starting to think about the fall. They're starting to think about Halloween. But you can go on over there and you can get Ian's graphene dream. It's low acidity. So that way it doesn't hurt your belly. You can pick up two weeks to Christmas, which is my blend. It's a gingerbread blend. It's very nice for the holidays. 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But are the people who are hiring the teachers that are teaching your kids? I also host a show called Loudmajority Live on LFA TV right here on Rumble and YouTube. You guys check it out. I'm live at 3 p.m. every day. Awesome. Thank you for joining us. Chris Carzier. Chris Car. Yeah. I'm a writer and outspoken in our co-Christian. Much to the sugar end of the folks in the chat. Happy to be here. I'm a rules lawyer. I follow the rules. And I'm Ian Crossell. I'm not a lawyer. That's true. You might be. But he's not. I don't know. I actually have no proof of that or evidence. But I'm Carter. You know me. Chris, thanks for coming. Of course. Thanks for having me. Popped. All right. So from the Washington Times, Candace Owens. Candace Owens concedes no direct proof of is that Israel killed Charlie Kirk in a debate with Andrew Wilson. That is barely news. Candace Owens and not and Candace Owens acknowledges she has no direct evidence that Israel was behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk during a nationally strained debate with an online debate or Andrew Wilson. Even as she is laid out of theory, she says points to an Israeli agent in the case, pressed repeatedly by Mr. Wilson, who hosted, who hosted the debate show The Crucible on whether she could back up months of insinuation about Israel's involvement. Miss Owens said, well, I couldn't say Israel was on the ground and shot and killed Charlie Kirk. She said she was instead trying to establish a motive pointing to Mr. Kirk's private complaints about pro-Israel donors in the weeks before his death and what she described as an unusual behavior from Israeli officials afterwards. Mr. Wilson, who has offered Ms. Owens as much as $300,000 to defend her claims publicly, asked her directly, do you have any positive evidence whatsoever that Israel killed Charlie Kirk? Ms. Owens did not answer with evidence. Instead, she repeated an unsubstantiated claim she first made in November 2025 that 12 Israeli registered cell phones were detected near the shooting scene at Utah Valley University and called the broader chain of events, a conspiracy building. No law enforcement agency has confirmed this claim. It did not originate with any named investigators. Ms. Owens has attributed her broader suspicion to the case to the case in the case to unnamed sources and turning point USA insiders. She is entirely full of shit. I don't believe any of the stuff that she says. I know that there's going to be people that are going to get up on me and they're my my mentions are going to be full of people saying, oh, but what about this? What about that bullets? I don't care. Bullets do weird shit. And everything that Candice has been asserting is all garbage. Absolutely. It was dreadful. I watched it on the way down here today. I am I'm dumber for it. I appreciate Andrew Wilson trying to do it, but he was facing an uphill battle. He had to prove something wasn't real. Like, you can't prove a negative. And that's what Candice Owens did the entire time. Now, the reason why this whole debate frustrates me so much is because it becomes so binary. Like if you say what Candice is saying isn't true, then immediately, oh, well, you believe the fed slop exactly. She's just wrong. That's the worst. Well, I mean, I'm sorry to cut you off, but that's the most frustrating thing is, and I've been saying this a lot around this table here, just because the government lies doesn't mean that everything the government says is a lie, right? Like the idea that, well, the feds are saying it. So it must be untrue. That is wrong. The feds absolutely will lie. They will unquestionally and saying that they're not lying about this or they're not lying this time does not mean that they that doesn't mean that they haven't lied in the past, doesn't mean that they won't lie in the future. It just means that this particular issue seems like the fed story is the closest to reality. Also, there were so many times in it where Candice made the assertion because they haven't explained X, therefore what's. And it's like, that's what trials are for. And look, we are programmed from 35 years of watching Law and Order to think that we know that that's how trial. If you've ever actually watched a trial, it is monotonous. It is boring. There is no Tom Cruise yelling, you can't handle the truth. It is all exhibits and scientific words that most average people do not understand procedural things. And I feel like a lot of people are are med or upset that the trial itself has not moved at the speed in which the internet moves. Candice seemed to assume that because no one checked in with her, like, well, I'm Candice Owens and I have a question about Charlie's shirt moving. And nobody really answered my question. Therefore, giant gap. Yeah. And not just the question, but answered in a timely manner at which Candice would be happy with because like the biggest thing I got, not only watched 45 minutes of it, but she was treating the preliminary hearing like the trial and also like testimony from people that were up there talking, giving their opinions as fat, whereas Andrew Wilson was sticking to actual fact. And she kept bringing up the hearsay argument. Right. Just because something is hearsay doesn't mean it's false. Yeah. It's just inadmissible in a trial, but admissible in a preliminary hearing. And look, this is going to go on for a, if this go does go to trial, which I don't think it's going to, this is going to go on for a very long time. Give me a favor and explain why you don't think it's going to trial. Well, I don't think it's going to go to trial because I think the Tyler Robinson's team will accept a plea deal to avoid the ultimate sentence. I don't know to say it. You can say it. It's capital punishment. Yeah. To avoid capital punishment. They'll take that off the table and they'll take life without parole. And the problem with that is, is that then the people who are the detractors will say, ah, you see, they didn't want the truth to come out in a trial. And that's what, that's what, and we'll get to the, I'm sure we're going to talk about it in the next story. That's what lawyers do. They look for the plea deal. They don't want to turn into Marsha Clark, ah, from the OJ Simpson trial and turn into the butt of every joke for losing the unloosable case because something comes up that, that they didn't foresee. So they're going to take the plea deal when it comes. I hope if they do, there's going to be some sort of an allocation where he has to go up and say what he did, how he did it and answer for it. I don't think that'll be enough to silence the critics, ah, but, ah, well, I mean, especially considering most of the people they. at least as far as I understand Candice's argument is Tyler wasn't the only shooter or he was a Patsy, right? - Yeah, she's claiming that he didn't shoot. - Oh, she says that he may have likely been on campus that day, although she has sources that claim that he was not even on campus that day, but her claim is that he did not shoot, for sure. - Okay, she started with, there might not even be a bullet. - Yes, it's a projectile. - Yeah, she kind of met Amy back to the projectile. She went back to the exploding loft mic. - Well, her essential claim is the exploding loft mic. - Yeah, I mean, it was just, there was so many things that there is nothing, I'll debate anybody who's willing to have a conversation and have a conversation and whose mind will be changed, but Candice has staked so much on this theory that there's no way if Tyler Robinson went up to Candice Owens and said, "I did it." She would go, "No, you didn't." They convinced you, you didn't. - We know that you didn't, we know that you didn't, we know you have to say this, but we also know that you didn't. Because of course, if it's nefarious actors that are state-sponsored, of course, he's gonna say that because well, his family, he has to worry about us, he's doing this to protect his family. There's always some kind of explanation and that's what conspiracies are built on. - I think she's conflating the Lee Harvey Oswald assassination of John F. Kennedy, I'm putting it in quotes, because the word "patsy" doesn't get used in modern language, it's a word from the '50s. Lee Harvey Oswald said, "I'm a patsy," as he was getting walked, perp walked. Tyler Robinson sent a text message to his lover that he did it, that he actually was the one that did it. So that's very different. Also, they found Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle, like two floors above where he was eating lunch that day, but many people say it was planted there. They found Tyler Robinson's rifle, so there's that level of conflation as well. Finding a guy's rifle doesn't mean that he's Lee Harvey Oswald. - I mean, look, can this is like a week or two away from talking about the second gunman on the grassy knoll. - Yeah. - Like, and it's, there actually is a grassy knoll at that college, so, you know, not to make light of it, but she's at that point, and the problem with it is, this is the most traumatic assassination we've seen in what, since Bobby Kennedy? - Probably, yeah. - Probably, no one, very few people alive know how to handle this. It was, if you look at the vid, if you saw the video, it's definitely the most gory. - It was real bad, you know. - And it was probably other than JFK, the first one called on film like that. - Right, oh yeah. - You know, at least since then. And I don't know what good can come of what Candace is doing, because if this doesn't go to trial, you have to remember, it only takes one out of those 12 jurors to go, nope, this didn't happen. - And what's the probability that one of those 12 jurors is a big Candace fan? - Or has, like, in the closet. - Yeah. - And just look at the way the internet operates now. You know, when they, you know, what dear, the jury, they're gonna go through their Twitter history, and if that defense team finds somebody to retweet in Candace Owens or Ian Carroll or whoever, whoever it may be, they're gonna try to get them on, they're gonna try to get them on there. And I don't know what good this is. Exhal your questions. Don't trust everything. But at some point, when a guy says he did a thing six times, I'm gonna go with that probably is the person who did it. - Yeah. - There are false confessions for sure, but false confessions in an interrogation room is different than one to your lover. - And they also had, they had DNA evidence, which people are obviously anytime you bring up any evidence that the state has people in the museum. It's just, you know, fed slop. You're gonna believe the state. So again, just disregard evidence that doesn't actually reinforce your perspective. But they had DNA on the rifle. The rifles as grandfather's, as parents were asking about it. I mean, there's all kinds of evidence pointing to Tyler Robinson as the guy that shot him, right? There's confessions, there's discussing it. There's all kinds of evidence. In any other circumstance, if it wasn't, you know, if there wasn't this actual political kind of aspect to it, people wouldn't be saying, oh no, you know, or at least the number of people that were saying, no, that wasn't the jury. It would be significantly fewer. But because of the political kind of angle on it, people are very quick to be like, oh, well, you know, it couldn't have been these guys. It was definitely those guys. And it's because of this. It's because, you know, Charlie wasn't as friendly to Israel. Charlie was the, like, he was a big Israel cheerleader for like almost all of his life. And if he had, you know, a slight change of heart, which I don't really actually believe that he did, I don't think that he, like, he hadn't made anything vocal. He hadn't talked about it. And like if Charlie had, they wouldn't just go to, all right, often. Like, you know, I mean, if Israel really was, you know, the kind of place that was just like, all right, often if they talk badly about us, why would they allow Candace Owens to spend a year making these allegations? Like it's just, well, she wasn't out on campus all the time and opened a debate with people. She didn't have the influence that Charlie Kirk had, especially with the younger crowd. So, I mean, I'm going to say, I'm going to say if Israel wants you, they're going to get you. Exactly. I would agree with that. She has one text message. Here's my Charlie. There's 100,000 concurrent viewers on her show, and so that's, but that's very different from what Charlie, Charlie, Charlie wasn't anomaly in the current political landscape. There's nobody you can really compare him to in terms of his influence. And especially in this is something, I think this is what ultimately led to what happened to him happening is that he had influence with young people, vast influence with young people. He was changing minds that were set to be indoctrinated on college campuses. And when you put all that together, it's like, well, who did want to get him, you know? Here's my whole hang up, is I have a huge bias against anything related to the state, anything related to the courtroom. I think devil, the devil's playground is the legal system. So, if anybody wants to question official narratives from the state or the feds or procedures in court, all I say is tell me more, you know? And that's because I'm kind of a pincionian. I love pincion. And pincion's like the original counter-culture conspiracy theorist novelist guy. And she's kind of like a pension character at the center of a story, this unfolding a narrative that sounds totally batshit, but it's still enticing, even to me. I mean, look, everybody loves true crime. It's probably the most popular genre of series, especially with women, especially with women. The difference between your, you know, Ted Bundy docuseries with the guy from high school musical, is that we're talking about a guy that a lot of us do. We're talking about someone that, you know, a lot of our friends we're very close with. And it is a huge difference between making a docuseries about Ed Geen, who committed a crime in the '50s and like a real, something that has real world consequences today for people that we know. I mean, I've spoken on colleges before. I'm going to do it next semester. And now I'm sitting here. And I'm like every person who speaks on college campuses after what happened to Charlie thinks to themselves. Yeah, Andrew Wilson said something else interesting in his like opening monologue in the thing that I caught where he said that he had like a text from somebody. I think it was Charlie to his security team that he thought the left was going to do in him. I think I saw the tweet about that. So I thought that was an interesting. Yeah, that was the day before, right? It was him confirming his according to Andrew, it was the text with him confirming the security arrangements. And Charlie saying that he thought that was going to happen. Yeah, I mean, it's obviously a tragedy and it's frustrating to me to see the way that this is played out since he was murdered, you know, the fact that people have just globbed onto the conspiracy story. And again, I get it. There are people that are just like, like I said, I think the COVID fried people's brains. I think there were a lot of people that, you know, they feel like they were duped because of COVID, they believed things. Maybe there are people out there that got vaccinated when they feel like they didn't need to get vaccinated. They feel like they were duped about the social distancing. They feel like they were duped about taking time off. Then, you know, then you see the riots in 2020 and people are like, wait a minute, how come? How come I can't go to church or I can't go to the mall, but these people are out rioting or protesting? How come that's okay? How come I can't go watch my kids play baseball outside? Why, you know, the kids can't do little league, but, you know, these people are allowed to get together. And you build this kind of resentment against institutions. At a time when trust in institutions was at a record low, right, and it's way worse now, obviously. But even like in 2020, trust in institutions had kind of cratered. And they never come back. You know, everybody's got their story, their grandmother lived to the depression that still kept money into the bed in the 80s. Yep, you know, so these things don't come back when you do that. And the ruling class, the people who are telling us to trust every institution faced no repercussions. Yeah, just, just bringing it. Gavin Newsom, going to the French laundry is probably the best example of how your hair done. Your life would say, no, no, I have to get my hair done. You, you have to stay at home, man. Yeah, it's, it was just, it was just too much for people to take and they didn't have an, they don't really have an outlet or didn't have an outlet. And so they're just like, well, everything they say is a lie. And again, I'm not, I'm not the person that's like, oh, the government never lies. You know, it was, it was clear. Your, it is clear that there was all kinds of lies that were surrounding, you know, the COVID narrative, you know, even, even up to and including where it came from, you know, what the genitalia is. of the of the of the of the the COVID virus in the first place was, and then you top top that, you know, throw that on top of all of the other lies that the government has, you know, has has basically been feeding to the American people, whether it be, you know, yellow cake Uranium in in Iraq or if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. And that one I think is is kind of doesn't get enough scrutiny because there were a lot of people with a bailout and no eight. Well, the bail, but at least the bailout they with it was not good, but the bailout they weren't lying about it, right? They were like, yeah, we're going to, but we're going to dump money into the government or into the into the economy because if not, like everything's going to go under the credit credit markets are frozen. And if, if the credit markets freeze, then the whole, you know, the entire economy is going to freeze up. And this that would have worse ramifications for the people than, than, you know, printing a bunch of money. I meant like the institutions. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. No one, no one went to jail for it. Nobody went to jail. Nobody was ever punished for it. It's not like, look, I don't know if jail is, I won't say necessary, but how about fired? Yeah. How about somebody who loses a pension? Yeah. Like even Fauci, zero consequences. I mean, sure, we got to read his diary entries, which were hilarious. Turns out he's a huge barb estrus in fan, which is so odd to me. But that's the one that gets me more than anything else is how excited he was to meet Barbara. Sure. I said as most eight year old men would be, I guess, um, I don't know, but he got embarrassed a little bit, but he still got his pension and he's still got, he's got lifetime benefits and he got 11. He got a pardon for 11 years of anything he did previous. If any of us did a 10th of what he did, we would lose our job at the very least. Yeah. And all of them, whether it's the guys who, who allowed, you know, not 11 to happen, guys, I was a clapper and the guy that came out and said, we made a mistake. Was it fired? Like they, there's never any punishment. Yeah. Yeah. It truly is a situation where people are just allowed. I mean, well, I mean, the thing is that that argument, people, people look back on 9/11 with 2020 vision, right? Before the, before 9/11 happened, like the FBI and CIA and NIS, they didn't communicate the way they do now. They're just, so when you look back at the whole picture prior to 9/11, you can look and say, oh, yeah, it did make sense. They knew because each individual department or whatever you want to call it had a piece of the puzzle. But it takes homeland security, it took homeland security or the apparatus of homeland security to be able to look at all that and say, okay, we could see it now. But prior to 9/11, they didn't have the ability to look at all the pieces at the same time. So it is accurate to say they knew. Yeah. No, I don't know what I mean. But when I say new, I meant, like, just there's a failing at the top. Yes. If you're a baseball manager and your team finishes in the last place, even if you tried really hard, you lose your job. Yeah. Anthony Fauci, even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and say, Trevor, he failed. Yeah. I mean, just like, you know, the the Warner act, the whole like, oh, you know, there's there's weapons of mass destruction. And the best argument you could possibly make about that is, well, there was because the US gave them, you know, weapons of mass destruction in the 80s and they still had some leftover. But it certainly wasn't yellow cake, like they said. It certainly wasn't an active nuclear program. You know, I mean, there were there were, you know, periodic bombings of Iraq all through the 90s during the no flies on and stuff like that. So like, the the government has absolutely been lying to the American people about a ton of stuff forever. And COVID kind of was like the, I feel like it was the kind of the breaking point where people are just like, you know, yeah, it was. It really was because it was so egregious to, you know, it was it was it was something that you shut the whole world down. It wasn't just, you know, now the rewriting of it, I don't know. Yeah. We didn't shut anything that it's pretty, we didn't do that. It's egregious. I was thrown out of bars in New York City for not showing my people. And the, and the, the people, the, the sharper people out there understand that the reason that we, we, the economy feels the way it does now is because of all the money printing that happened. You know, you shut the economy down and then you just print up money and give it, punch it, you know, give it to people, you know, dump money into the economy. Obviously more money chasing fewer products because the whole world shut down. There's people aren't producing things. People have a cash rich. That's going to make the price of things go up. Like that is econ 101. That is the most simple, you know, way to understand inflation. And that's what's happened. And it takes a long time for wages to, to, to, to increase, to match the, to the inflation that you, the big bout of inflation that we had and people are suffering, people are hurting, people feel like their dollars don't go as far. And they look back and they say, well, quote, it was because of COVID. And it's because of all the money printing. It was the largest transfer of wealth and human history. Yeah. I mean, houses, roughly, are double. Yeah. A house selling for $600,000 now, the year before COVID was 400. Yep. That is just, that is a, a mathematical certainty that's not me being like some millennial saying, oh, boomers had it easier. I mean, they did, but we could do that all day. Uh, it is a, it is just a fact that houses have gone up 30, 40% not since the 90s, not since the 2000s, since like 20 minutes ago. Yep. And it's, it's, I mean, I'm looking for a house right now and I'm more they're going to, they're going to, they're going to come down because there, there's way more sellers than there are buyers right now. And so it like not, I don't think it's going to happen in the next year or two or whatever, but and also the boomers are dying. Every time I go away, every no matter where I go, being from Long Island, one of the most expensive housing areas in America, anytime I go away, the first thing I do when I get to a hotel is like going. Yeah. And I'm like, let's just see. I was speaking to Tennessee. Well, I thought, a palace, a palace. It looked like, it looked like Jasmine's house in Aladdin. 280. Oh, I was like, how? I know, I know, I know, I was born inside on seed. I think I know two people that are selling houses in the Nashville area. So, that are, that are looking to move them. So, don't tell me that. All right. So, all right. Let's, let's, let's move along. Actually, no, we've got a one, and now we're not, let's not even go, go back in this. We're going to move on. Everyone, everyone is better off for us, but we got, you know, six hours of whatever that was. I got to make sure these things are muted though, because I don't, yeah, it's muted. And is this one muted? Yes. All right. So, we're going to jump to this story. Now, Luigi Mangeoni from ABC News, Luigi and Mangeoni admits to shooting United Healthcare CEO as he pleads guilty in federal case. Luigi Mangeoni admitted to shooting United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson as he pleaded guilty Friday to two federal stalking counts, marking a dramatic turn of events in the high profile killing. Thompson's family spoke out in a rare statement Friday calling the plea an important step toward justice as Mangeoni's attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the charges he's facing in state court under New York's double jeopardy law. In the federal court on Friday, Mangeoni outlined his crime saying after years of enduring severe pain from a broken back, I learned that United Healthcare would be holding its annual investor conference in New York City. Mangeoni said he learned the exact location of United Healthcare's conference by emailing the company, posing as an investor with more than 50 billion in capital. Before traveling to New York, I used a 3D printer to make a part of a gun and I equipped the gun with a silencer in the magazine. He said, "My travel to New York and email to United Healthcare was with the intent to shoot Brian Thompson. I shot Mr. Thompson in Manhattan and he died. I knew what I was doing was illegal." I mean, this is, I mean, it's, I hate to say, it sounds bad to say it, but this is, at least it's a good thing that he's admitting this, you know, obviously the story's horrible. I don't want to call him crazy because he was completely clear headed, you know, in doing this, but it's just, it's, it's, it's just such a monstrous act to walk up behind a guy, you know, because you have back pain and shoot him in the head and kill him. Got it? Two kids. You don't know. Yeah. Like he didn't, it wasn't like a doctor, you know, screwed him over, like any guy, man, it's just some dude walking down the street and all they did was, congratulations, they just appointed a new CEO and just kept moving along. Yeah. All you did was cause a family, you made no difference in the world. And, you know, I thought he wanted the spectacle. I thought he wanted the whole charade, but it turns out when the rubber meets the road, a lot of these, a lot of these guys can't face the heat of what's coming. And the capital punishment is very convincing. Like we said, in the other happens in case, you know, the, the, once it becomes tangible that you can lose your life because of this. And the cult following around this guy is so weird, man. So we enter a lot of money that I don't really know what for this point. Yeah. Well, that's it. That's, that's what annoys me about a lot of these cases is that it gets right up to the point where they get to trial and they've wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars and a hundred days of court rooms and this that and the third. And then just, ah, I now I'll play guilty. Even though we saw you do it, you admitted it, you tried to fight all the evidence in the backpack and him in the, in the Burger King or whatever it was, that annoys me when that happens. Even like I'm, you know, saying I'm from Long Island, we had the Gilgo Beach, uh, you know, the situation. That guy rode that thing out for like six months and then just went, eh, guilty. Like no, you should, you should, you should get, you should get one chance to plead guilty and then not, we're going. - I mean, I don't know, I don't know how I feel about that. I think, I mean, I like the sound of it. Like, all right, here's your last chance. Did you do it? If not, even if you say you did, you don't, it's not gonna change the sentence, you know. Yeah, I mean, you might be onto something there. You've got like, look, did you do it? You've got up until the start of the trial or something like that. Actually, no, not even the start of the trial 'cause that's months and months. - Well, let's start the hearings. Like, what is going on in the process? You know, I'm sure there's going to be some lawyer in the chat letting me know who to know what I'm talking about. 'Cause-- - Oh yeah, I'm not a lawyer. - I don't know, I just played one on TV. - Oh, it looks like he didn't plead guilty to murder. He pled guilty to two federal stalking charges resulting in death. The New York state murder case is, he's still facing. - Yeah. - He hasn't made a plea in official. - See, he did this to get out of the double jeopardy of the state trial. - Right. - That was what it was. - That was being federally charged to trial. - If he pled guilty to the federal charges, so he can't be charged in the state. - Is there a capital punishment in New York? So the option of capital punishment would be a fact. - What did it all have to say about? Maybe he did it to just, maybe now he's looking at, I don't know the sentencing. Maybe now instead of 25 to life, now he's looking at 15 to life with parole or something, you know, with-- - Oh, that would be terrible. - Or something like, maybe he pled to the fed stuff to get a lighter sentence, I'm sure he'd not try to go to federal jail than go to Annika. - I think the biggest issue is that I heard about was like they searched his bag before actually, like, identify him or something like that. And like, so everything they found before they got to the station with him in custody is not admissible in court, which had like the gun, the book, like all the stuff they wrote down. So they can't use that if I understand it correctly, which would be difficult for their case. In a perfect world where you have 12 juries or jurors that have never heard about it, but I don't know. - That's also weird, the 12 jurors who have never heard. You-- - It's hard to find that. - You take both of these cases, find me one person, who's not even able to buy these cases. I think you can go back, OJ and Casey Anthony, where you find it, 12 people? - Yeah, I mean, the idea of, especially nowadays with social media, like I think that in the '90s, obviously it took someone as famous as OJ to be like, you're not gonna find someone that doesn't have some kind of contact with the case. But in the age of social media, you really have to be a person that's focused in on your own life and not reading the news to not know about this. - And you need 12 of them. - Yeah. - In the same town. - Yeah, you know, I just, it's odd to me how we're gonna find 12 people who have never heard of this. How did, you know, the guy that killed the CEO? Oh, and no idea, like, how big of a rock do you live on there? - I mean, look, and another thing is like, if you're, if you find, if you do find someone that, you know, doesn't have any kind of contact with it, are they, are they a person that you could, you could rely on to actually make a decision. - You get 12 people who've been in a solitary confinement, right? - They had a painted room, you know what you guys call the jury? You don't know anything. - Do you just smoke and weed in their basement, play in Xbox all day or play in, you know, computer games maybe, but like, otherwise, if they're, if you're a normal, well-adjusted person, I imagine you've probably heard some kind of context surrounding this. - Yeah, it's, it's, it's wild. But like, like you said, maybe he just got a, he got a better offer for fed time than state time. And that's why he pleaded guilty to it. - I don't know, maybe the punishment for the state trial would have been the life of that parole. And maybe now we got the possibility of it. - I can't, I mean, maybe, but I can't imagine, you know, this type of murder and not going to jail forever. - Well, the problem is that human beings are not suited for carrying out justice at all. Whether they call themselves a judge and put on a robe or they sit on a jury or they're a lawyer, we're not capable of administering justice properly. I mean, just, I mean, the whole system is really broken and it's corrupt. And it wouldn't surprise me if he is let go. - Like overall, just like. - Well, no, I mean, after he served a certain amount of time, there's some sort of, you know, legal loopholes that gets it back on the streets in five or 10 years, that wouldn't surprise me because I don't have any confidence in the justice system to begin with. - I think that, I think that I agree that it wouldn't surprise me. I would, I would definitely feel like, I would feel like that, that isn't justice and I would be disappointed, but I wouldn't be like, I can't believe it. I mean, it like, the stories that you hear of people doing very little time for fairly egregious crimes, they happen so much that or a pardon by, you know, someone that was sympathetic to his case somehow, you know, but I don't know. I mean, if he goes to federal prison, I assume it would have to be like a president that would pardon him. So, you know, like the governor of California can't pardon for a federal, so it'd have to be the president. So, I mean, you know, when the governor of California is president, maybe he'll do that. (laughing) - That's depressing, depressing. Or when A.O. is down the mood of the room. - Or when A.O.C. is president. - Well, I mean, look, they let John Hinckley out. - Yeah, and dude, he just recently reached out to Jody Foster, again, no kidding, I swear to God, I swear to God, I just saw, I saw a tweet about it. - She's about 50 years older than his ideal age at this point. - I mean, she's also a lesbian, is she not? - Yes. - He doesn't know anything, like that doesn't matter to him. He thought, at one point he thought if he killed Ronald Reagan, she would date him, so, you know. - What do you, do you think it was just high? - I just don't know. I would love to read him, remember me? - Yeah, the Mount Side. (laughing) - I just watched this really cool movie from '76. (laughing) Prophex, so many memories, Jody. - Jody, do you still have those knee highs? (laughing) - Yeah. - Look at the mountain, if I were Jody Foster after that, the mountain, I would run over to hide. What are you out of? - I mean. - I'd be living on top of Everest. - I do, I really would love to, as you mentioned, I would love to know what the message, you know, just slide into our DMs, you know. - Twitter. (laughing) - If John Hickley starts tweeting, we're gonna have to have a serious conversation about what we are all. I think he does tweet, or he was. - He does? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, he's trying to do some concerts that ask me. - Is it bad that I immediately picked up my phone to go follow John Hickley? - No, it's hilarious. Like, I mean, look, everybody likes to watch, you know, voyeurism stuff. I create, like, especially crazy people. Look at the first story that we were talking about today, you know. - Wait till he finds out that Jared Leto played him in a movie. (laughing) - He's gonna be really, he's gonna put on 150 pounds to play. Oh, no, he played the guy that shot him up. - Chapman? - Chapman, Chapman. - Yeah, okay. - Mark came to Chapman. Sorry about that. - He's gonna. - All right, Jared. (laughing) - But yeah, I still like the idea that John Hickley is reaching out to Jody Foster, that's hilarious. He said, okay, so this is a quote that I got. He said, "I just wish Jody Foster well, you know, I don't really see her movies, but I wish her well, and I know she's doing quite well, and that's all I can say is just, I wish Jody well, and I hope she has a good life." - Look at that. - All right. - Is that wonderful? - They got he clarified that. - Yeah. - 'Cause I don't know what we got to do. - He's got silence to the lambs on repeatin' his house. Like 10 screens. - He was at one scene with the music and the dancing and the tucking. (laughing) - Oh man. - Oh man. - Anyways, so yeah, Luigi Mangione, he's apparently not going to be killed or not gonna receive capital punishment. The thing that really, you know, we touched upon a little bit before that really is kind of striking about this is how many people have come to his defense. And not just like people that are, not just women that are like in love with bad guys, right? 'Cause you hear stories about that kind of stuff all the time. Murderers in jail, get messages and letters from women and people don't understand why. And no one except for the women that are sending these letters understand why, but it happens all the time. You get, there was this one really good looking criminal that was a violent, violent guy. - And when we're as? - No, well, I mean, yes, Ramirez, yes. - You get a whole thing about the women that. - Yeah. - Yeah, that was the Night Stalker, right? - Yeah. But there was another guy that wasn't famous, but he was a really violent criminal and women were after him. Just going and like he beat up girls and stuff, like girlfriends and they were just like, I don't care, I don't care, I can fix him. I can fix him, you know? And that's kind of something that you expect, but the people on the political left that were just like, you know, Luigi Mianjioni, Taylor Lorenz, it made some comments. Like, you know, people understand why someone like Luigi Mianjioni, no, you shouldn't understand. You shouldn't, but the reason people understand is because they're so outraged with a broken system, a broken healthcare system that doesn't work for them, a country that doesn't work for them. So I understand why they're outraged too. Obviously, I don't advocate for violence in any circumstances or any form, but I do understand why people have that reaction to it. - I just, I don't understand why people think that that would fix something. You know, because it's like if you're if you're Like if you're angry about a system, killing one person, obviously we talked about it in the beginning, he's just going to be replaced. Well, this is a problem with leftism and liberalism and general and also communism. It's just like, I'm generally aligned with a lot of the socialist and even communist critiques of problematic systems, even capitalism. It's the solutions that are the problem. You see, so this guy is outraged that he had a bad back and he just wanted to make an example out of this CEO, that's not a solution. It doesn't even come close. It did nothing. It just harmed more people. So the leftists and maybe even conservatives too, they don't have a good pathway for solutions, even if they understand the severity of the problem. This goes all the way back to Karl Marx. A lot of Marx's critique of capital, it's pretty sound. It's a solution that are insane. Yeah, I just, I need to do what Marx did, I just got to find a rich friend to live off of and then I can just sit around and write nonsense all day long. Not a bad gig if you can get it, not a bad gig. Maybe throwing a, maybe throwing a bath every once in a while. I don't think the baths have a bath. There's a lot of messages about boils and stuff like that. He lived in England, so he lived in London, if I understand correctly, so it's constantly raining. There was a point where he couldn't leave his house because he had pawned the last pair of his pants, so he would have been naked. I really hope that the current day, the only pair of pants in his home, so no one could leave except for one person, so it could only be him to go get the rest of his pants. I really hope American comedists don't follow suit, like I really hope Hassan doesn't like pawn the last pair of his pants and keep. But they would be easier to identify if they all decided to just go pants. Not in New York. But I guess I do understand what you're saying about how just systems in general are imperfect. We're human beings and any system that we can conceive of isn't going to be a perfect system, and that's part of the allure of socialist and communist ideas. They promise a perfected system, and they don't tell you how you're going to get there. They don't tell you how to organize it, but what they do is they point at the imperfections of the current system and say we'll do it better, we'll do it right. We know how we can fix this, and which clearly they don't, because even people that have problems with capitalism or the system that we live in, whether you want to call it capitalism or not, the imperfections are going to be imperfections in any man-made system. Even though our system is imperfect, it is obviously the best system that man has been able to devise. That doesn't mean that it's perfect. That doesn't mean that there aren't people that will find it difficult to function in the system that we have. There are plenty of people that just don't really have the capability to pay the bills on time and have a life structured and organized enough to be able to have a place to live and keep a home and stuff like that. There are people that need help with that. There are people that can't do that, and that doesn't mean they're bad people or they're evil people, but it doesn't mean that our system doesn't suit everybody. But it's still the system that suits the most people, and has obviously taken every single society that has engaged in markets out of basically agrarian subsistence farming up to a point where the number of people in absolute poverty almost disappears. Like there's no one in the United States that lives in absolute poverty. That's a lot of these American leftists and these communist, they don't seem to understand that they are not the average. They are not the norm. Somebody who is in the worst shape paycheck to paycheck, struggling 60 hour weeks is in the top 2% of the world. If you can turn on your faucet, you are doing better than 25% of the planet. If you are using an indoor toilet, you're doing better than a billion and a half people. And I don't think they seem big if they compare their lives to Elon Musk. I don't need to be Elon to actually they compare their lives to what they imagine Elon Musk's life is because they like Elon Musk has like I think he sold like all of his houses and like he might have a house now or whatever, but he when he was starting SpaceX, he was like sleeping at space. When you started to test, he was sleeping at Tesla and like he works like 16 hours or 18 hours a day, like so the idea they have this concept of him because he's a billionaire that he's just drinking my ties on the yacht all day long, but he's not. He's working constantly because and that like the working constantly is why he's in the position that he's in. He also look at billionaires as like a model with they look at young billionaires, they look at Zuckerberg and they look at Elon Musk relatively young, but the majority of billionaires were over the age of 70. You know, why could they start a young? Yeah, and yeah, in sure they got some breaks definitely probably a few of them probably got lucky some of them probably did it in a various ways, but most billionaires, you don't wake up at 23 a year out of your master's degree and just fall backwards like Scrooge McDuck into a billion dollars. That's not the way it works. Like most of the time, most billionaires accumulated through 45, 50 years of compound interest, which you have to start and your 20 and another thing that people people people think there are a lot more billionaires than they actually are. I didn't a little little digging in it. There's only 800 people in the United States that are billionaires. Well, 800, that's what makes it easy to go after them. There's 182 in New York City, and people think Wall Street, not everybody that works on Wall Street is a billionaire. Those people are working rich. So when you go after those sorts of those sorts of operations, those are the people that are going to leave. I always say when it comes to someone like Mom Donnie who goes after, you know, the top 10%, top 15%, can Griffin will be fine. I'm not worried about him. I'm worried about the guy who owns the store on the corner who says I'm done and takes those seven jobs with them because guess what, there's a lot more pizza parlour owners in New York City who have fled to Florida than billionaire trust. I'm sorry billionaire hedge fund managers. There's a lot more guys that owned dry cleaners who move the Tennessee. Yeah, then there are bill. Can Griffin's people get so worked up about millionaires, right? And like, you know, if you're if you're a guy that owns, you know, like you said, like actually for a good example that I like to use car dealerships. You want a couple car dealerships, right? You own a Ford dealer and you sell GM across the street and you've got a Toyota dealership as well, right? They're all under the same say, you know, they're all yours, right? You own the buildings in the property. That's a million dollars. Not before you put a car on the lot, the buildings in the property are actually each one's probably a million dollars because you got lifts in there because you got a shop. You know, you got a couple lifts. Each one of those is a million dollars. So your your net worth is 10 million dollars. And people that are are, you know, on the left, they're like, we have to get the money from we have to get the millionaires. They're they're scruuness. But you you employ 80 people or, you know, maybe maybe even, you know, say probably 40 or 50 people work in each building, right? So you employ 150 people and they go and they come after you and and somehow they decide that they're going to tax your property and you have to get rid of a bunch of cars and sell one of the dealerships. So that way you can pay. Well, you have to fire 50 people. I mean, look, just to put in the context, you want to go after a millionaires in New York City, you are going after everyone who owns a home. I use Michael Pat as the example all the time. You're the union electrician retired, open to bar, sold its house. He did well for himself. Is he the guy that the leftists think they're going after? No, they think they're going after Ken Griffin. But meanwhile, Uncle Pat, where is he? And handle a Florida now. He got out as quickly as possible. He was, he was working rich. You know, well, he was worth. Yeah, people would consider rich. But he was a union electrician. Those the 150, 250,000 of those of my uncles who have fled New York are the ones that keep the economy going because Ken Griffin can only go to the dry cleaners as much as my uncle. But there's a lot more of him than there are of the hedge fund guys who are getting ready to leave. And people that, you know, look at the CEO of United health care, I think he was worth something like 30 million or something like that. It's really not, which is, I mean, yeah, that's the thing. It's like, because human beings have such a difficult time, like conceptualizing large numbers, like once you get over like, say, once you get over 10,000, right, looking at 10,000, you can't really tell the difference between 10 and 20,000. Or, or 30 and 50,000, you can't like, I mean, I've stood on stage and looked out. And it's like, there's like 20,000 people there. There were, there were 60,000 people at the show, you know, and like, oh, but you know, it's at big festivals. It's, you know, You play a show like that and you're just like, "Wow, that was a lot of people." Like, you can't tell, you can't really comprehend. That's why those infographics where it's like, there's a pile of money that's a million dollars and then like multiple pallets that's a billion and then like a trillion is like the size of a building or whatever. Like the idea for people that don't have much, they think that 30 million is basically the same thing as 500 million because it's so much money that I can't really comprehend it and these people can do whatever they want whenever they want. And it's like the guy that, like you're talking about, the working rich, right? Like a guy that's 50 years old that's been doing his job for 30 years and he was smart with his money and he's got, you know, he's invested his money and he's got actual property and stuff like that. That guy that's an electrician or whatever or that's a plumber or what have you. Like he's worth a couple of million dollars, right? But they're like, oh, he's a millionaire and so that makes him the enemy. This motivation that people have where which really boils down to class warfare, right? That's what the left has been talking about for they've been going towards class warfare. The DSA has been at least because the LGBT stuff and the kind of gay race communism stuff didn't work out. So they're just like, oh, well, you know, I guess we're gonna, we're gonna go back to old vulgar Marxism. Like that is really like though, like that, that's really a bad thing for your economy because it's gonna drive the people, look, your local economy because like you said, it's gonna drive the people that actually do own businesses and provide for their communities with services. Like it's gonna drive them out. - And you know, it also comes from a group of people who are overly educated and downwardly mobile. If you look at the people that are coming out for these people like Luigi Majoroni, trust fun kid. It seems like he had a hard time making it, doing what he wanted to do in life and with, and with mad about it. Probably went to school, probably had a crazy student loan, something like that. You know, there are all these Mamdani supporters or all the Mamdani people and the leftists and the communists that are out there. There were all the people that went out and got advanced degrees, 350 in debt, a mortgage pretty much for jobs that don't exist anymore. And now they're going, I have no vested interest in the system, so let's burn the system down. It's no different than this guy who had a bad, so look, some people have medical issues. And I pray for you if you are one of those people, they've not worsened having a bad back, not worse in the world than just being constantly in pain. But this guy didn't do anything to you. He's also not the like spokesperson for the medical system in and of itself. There's, what is there, 25 health insurance companies, there's 25 different CEOs, like he was just the one he could get to. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, it's a, I mean, it's an absolute tragedy all around and you know, it, like I said in the beginning, it is good that he's admitted to it and that he's talking about, you know, what he did. But I think to Chris's point, like I wouldn't be surprised if he gets out after a short amount of time, but everyone's going to have moved on by the time. People would refocus on the Federal Reserve as the center of the billionaire problem is that it's the centralized bank because that's what Occupy Wall Street was about. And that was the whole point. And then they, they, while we were there, they redirected people at each other in class, where they're like, oh, all these people that were loaning money to, well, the richest ones, the problem. But like, bro, you're the one loaning the money at interest. But that problem with this and this goes to also one of your earlier points, Chris, is that I'm diagnosing a problem. Federal Reserve Systems got a lot of flaws. I just don't know exactly what the solution is and I don't think the communists do either, or the corporate crats. And it's like, I mean, you could give the control of the monetary supply back to Congress, like what the Constitution says is supposed to be. I don't know that that would necessarily solve the fiat currency problem. 'Cause if we go back to the gold standard, it's going to deflate the value of the currency by 99%. And burgers are going to be $100,000. And so you can't go back to the gold standard. There's not enough gold. I don't. Rand Paul was actually, I mean, maybe there's not enough gold, but it is, and maybe this is a bit of an aside. But Rand Paul actually says that the gold is in Fort Knox. There had been rumors and people had been talking like, oh, you know, they don't have the gold in Fort Knox. It's not there anymore blah, blah, blah. Rand Paul, last week, or earlier this week, actually went into Fort Knox. Obviously, he doesn't have video of it because it's Fort Knox. They're not going to let you take a video inside Fort Knox. You're not going to get the video proof of it. Oh, you don't think Rand Paul won't do it a little selfie with like-- Yeah, you know, like-- Like, you'd die hard three. Yeah. I'm kind of surprised. And so you're going to have to-- if you are the kind of person that doesn't trust anything, any politician says, take this with a grain of salt. But Rand Paul is one of the more honest brokers in DC. So, you know, if he is to be believed, there is actually still gold in Fort Knox. Yeah. And to say, it would inflate by 99% a bit hyperbolic. Because I don't know exactly how much the value would devalue. Well, you're probably right. Yeah, you're probably right. Because when it was-- Or you're not too far off, at least. I mean, an ounce of gold, when it was taken off the-- Or in-- I'm sorry, not when it was taken off. It was like 1980. An ounce of gold was like 200 bucks. And now it's 4,500 bucks. 4,500 bucks. So that's 20 times. So at the very least, you might see a 20 times devalument in the dollar if we were to go back to a gold-- You're going to be buying French fries individually. But then-- you're not going to get sized. I'll have five fries, please. I don't know if I'm exactly doing the math. It's a complicated equation to try and come up with. Because of all the new dollars that are in the system. So if you add-- if you double the number of dollars in the system, that makes them all worth half as much. Well, the amount of dollar, the US economy, is worth $169, or $170 trillion. I looked it up the other day when I was looking at how many billionaires there are. That is me. But that does not-- it does not have real-- I mean, it might as well be a bazillion. The only time-- well, the only time-- the only other place that you hear numbers like that are when you're talking about cosmology, how many stars are in the sky and stuff. But it's 170 trillion or whatever. And so you figure how many ounces of gold does the US have in reserve? And then you divide it by the number of dollars in the US economy. That's so many zeros. That's a lot. It's hard to think of. That's like a big piece of-- But this kind of goes to me. This goes to the point of what I was saying. It's like people have a hard time comprehending these numbers and they just become, you know, a guerrilla-- it's a guerrillion dollars. Well, even like they were talking about-- not to-- Miles Garrett, the defensive end in the NFL. He got traded to Los Angeles. He signed $177 million contract. And after all the taxes and all the fees and this that, and the third, he gets to keep 81 million of it. I think it's 86 without his agent fees. Is that after taxes, too? That's after it. That's it. I mean, but, you know, I tried to-- and I'm just waiting to hear how people feel about this. The 80, 81 million-- he'll be fine. It's not the point. It's the idea that-- I mean, and California in sports is such a good example of it because there was a story a while back about the quarterback that won the Super Bowl. It actually cost him money to play in the Super Bowl, because of California's jock tax. It cost him $71,000 to win a Super Bowl, which just in a mathematical-- that's a bananas. I mean, look, you know, with all the remains with the band that I'm in, like, every dollar that I make, my manager takes 15%, or anytime we're on tour, at least. This is how it goes. My manager takes 15%, my booking agent takes-- my business manager takes 5%, my booking agent takes 10%, and then the government takes about 30%. So I'm making $0.40 on the dollar for every dollar that we make. That's for me to take after I pay for the bus, pay for the crew, pay the guys in the band, pay for whatever expenses we have. So it's like every dollar that we net, I get 40% of-- And then that goes, you know, usually there's like-- I got lawyers that I got to pay for, and other stuff. You know, there's two sides to it, because people don't see your back end expenses. You know, what it cost to track the trailer, to drive them all around. But it's also the concept of worth. People went nuts when Elon Musk became a trillionaire. And at a certain point-- For a minute. For a minute, like, he's not anymore. I might be today. I might be today. He had a good week. Yeah, he didn't. But there was a point there where he lost a whole zero. And people, at that point, worth is almost meaningless at 100 billion or up. And I try to explain to people when they talk about taxing wealth, you can't, like, not-- I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm saying what you're asking is not possible. There's no way-- I mean, think about if they tax the regular person's wealth and your house went up to a certain level, you're going to give the government your kitchen. If I bought a house at, you know, if I bought a house in the '80s, it was $60,000. And now it's worth a million. And the government wants to tax me on that unrealized gain. I'll drop my couches off. What do you want? You want my second story on the house? There's no way to physically do that. But like we were talking about before, it's just complaining about a problem without having a solution. I feel like all three of these stories playing because that's that's kind of what can this was doing. She was just complaining about stuff without having an answer to any of the questions. And now we're on to the same thing with Luigi saying the healthcare system was broken. So here's my ridiculous solution to the situation. Yeah. Well, we're going to jump to a story that I think we do have a solution for the daily caller reports. Senior Chinese Communist Party intelligence official is the new owner of a historic building, overlooking the White House complex, a daily news, a daily caller news foundation investigation discovered located approximately 650 feet northeast of the White House grounds, the 100 year old securities building on 15th Street was purchased on July 21st for 2026 for 8.4 million by Philip Ku and family foundation, filing show the building's new owner, Philip Ku has held numerous positions with Chinese intelligence and state security arms, according to university directors and DC and F trans translations of Chinese government announcements. Let's see, here's the, the actual. Alright, that's what I was going to say to him. That's a good one. Wow. You know, I mean, look, I don't know why we're giving a CCP intel officer an overwatch position over the White House. Also, I feel like 655 from the White House for 8 million. Probably a deal. Yeah, right? I'll be a bargain like, what? Is this kind of American citizen? I don't know, let's see. Is China allowed dual citizenship? Is that a thing over there? I think they allow it on our end. Oh, okay, I'm not on the ground. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It makes me come to Chinese too. Sure. But they can. Alright, so we got a little oversight now. That's great. You know, they should just go over and just change the locks. Just I mean, so I'm sorry, this isn't yours anymore. This is an interesting part, special forces training, who whose Chinese name is Ku Philly has held at least for Chinese government positions, beginning with a career as a detective in the criminal investigation team in Shanghai, a 2024 University of New Haven Instagram post states. Shanghai's criminal investigation team is a unit within Shanghai's public security bureau, which functions as a local subordinate of China's FBI, the Ministry of Public Security, according to the DCNF translation of Chinese government reports, while there's unclear how long who worked for worked in the Shanghai PSB, he had already received combat training by October 2011, when he enrolled in a Shanghai jai tong university master's program, according to DCNF translation of STF JTU announcements. SJTU photo show students carrying rifles and wearing camouflage fatigues during a team building war game at the program's outset. Classmate Ku Philly, who has undergone special forces training, and served as a commander in the red blue battle, and not only directed his troops to successfully capture enemy positions, but also killed one third of the opposing forces with 42 shots, achieving the best individual sniper record according to a DCNF translation of SJTU's announcement concerning the training exercise. 650 feet. Maybe he'll bring some of his criminal investigation background to a new neighborhood. Yeah, maybe 650 feet is like, that's, let's like 340, 330 yards or something like just about 330 yards. That is not a long shot. No, it's, it's a 200. Yeah, that's like, that's like three, well, not like two yards in a foot or I mean, three feet in a yard. Yeah. So freakish dude. Firstly, this probably went under the White House's nose, which is really crazy. They're probably hearing about it for the first time to this problem of las a fair capitalism as anybody can buy anything. And you kind of, man, central planning sound better and better. That's a really good golf tee shot. That's going to say, yeah, golf ball there, like most professional golfers, if John Daley can hit it. And he said, yeah, maybe we should, first off, they've handed a building is for sale that far away, like that is pretty bad is, like 650 feet. So that's, yeah, I mean, that's like, I do more in yards. I think they show you the proximity of it a little lower. That's the White House. That's the place on elevated position. Is that I mean, it's a building. So I mean, it's got floors 600 feet away. And these rifles can shoot what thousands and thousands you do with, I mean, you know, competent and he's a sharpshooter. Yeah, he's kind of a sharpshooter. I mean, yeah, he's like, he's like, hit their Chris Kyle like, you know, I mean, I, it's not, it's not some kind of, you know, crazy shot, like 650 feet. So that's, you know, like 200 yards or 220 yards or something like that. I generally am against seizure of private property, but 200 yards. I mean, this, like, I feel like we're like, yes, it's not even a pro golf swing. That's not hard at all. It's like a regular me on Saturday with the boys. That's, that's not really like that. I think that I can drive it. But that's not the point. I mean, like, so I don't know, I don't know exactly, you know, I mean, I don't, I suppose I suppose there's probably no significant approval process that, that was, was looked at, but I kind of imagine like, you know, the, the FBI probably should look into this. It's four D chess and we have our sharp shooters living blocks away aimed at him. I mean, the thing is CCP is like kind of firm parent. Yeah, it's a direct quote from this guy. Get him out of here. Bring up Alexandria. Or like, it's a silver spring somewhere away from the building. And put I mean, it does seem kind of ridiculous. What do you guys think that this is, this is asleep at the wheel? Or do you think that that this is much of do about nothing? Do you think that this guy? Do you think that this is something the government should step in and say, no, we're not going to allow you? Because the government does do that all the time. You know, the government absolutely can say, look, this is in proximity to the White House. This sale isn't going to happen. I don't, I don't know the means they would use, but I'm sure that they it's a symptom of a larger problem. That foreign entities, whether whether they're CCP sharp shooters or, you know, royal families from Abu Dhabi can grab real estate in our prime locations. I mean, I think it's, I think it's the the crown prince of Qatar, it's either because I was get the UAE and and Qatar mixed up in the one that does this, but one of those countries, they buy soccer teams in relative in major Western cities, they've done it in four different countries and all of the stadiums are directly next to airports. They did it with the New York City football club, they did it with Manchester city, they did it with the team in France, and they did it with the team. I think that he just like soccer, he doesn't want to do a long drive. But here's the thing, you want to buy one go ahead by the team of Kansas City, not the one in Queens, next to LaGuardia Airport, like when I say next to, I mean, about the distance from you and I, it's where that stadium is from the airport, for anybody that's been to like city field, it's this shouldn't be allowed. There should be like a dramatic approval process to foreign-born citizens, buying real estate in this country. I mean, I'm especially wanted to have been here for like 10 minutes. I think that I think that this, this particular case with, with Queer, whatever his name is, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong. I don't think that this guy's an American citizen, it's his family foundation or whatever that bought it. And I, I'm far more sympathetic to the argument that, you know, there should be vetting of foreign organizations that purchase property in the United States. So, and I think it was, I don't know who it was, but someone made the argument that foreigners shouldn't be a lot like if you're actually not living in the United States, you're not trying to become a citizen. They shouldn't be allowed to buy property. That's the last week on fire. Well, but, but, but I remember that. Who was the person that brought up the lease though? Because someone, someone made the, made the argument that what about a lease? I think it was, yeah, last, that was the same show. Yeah. Yeah. But the answer was was it, look it up really quick, Steve. I agree with you. Yeah. I mean, now major American cities, that's not a bad idea. Have become playgrounds for the rich. You know, you want to talk about mum, dummies like peer to tear attacks and all that. You go to Miami, all those penthouses are owned by guys from the Middle East, who come over here just to party or do whatever they're going to do, literally you can't, you can't Airbnb these things. They're all owned by people that don't live here. These people got to know if there is a communist revolution in the United States, all those property will be seized by those people. So I think maybe we can do it more rightfully. What do you mean, see, see which people, foreign born property, people that are foreign, born that aren't American citizens that own property in the United States. That property will be seized by the communists when they take, oh, if they take over, they will seize your foreign, they won't allow, there's xenophobes, dude, they don't want outside influence. So we need to figure out how to, how to remedy this before bubbles into we're bought out by foreigners and they're trying to, they're recourse. I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. You're saying that the property that's here in the United States, that's owned by foreign people, they will seize that property if there were some kind of civil unrest here in the US. There's a socialist or communist revolution. That would be like the first thing that would be seized is the foreign owned property by the people that own it. By the communists. Oh, okay. People that are trying to take control. Well, these people come from countries that have a very different structured government than we have. And they're going to default the way that their country governs. And they're going to use that country to come in and take property, right? I'm not sure I follow what you're saying. If this guy's connected to the Chinese Communist Party and he's got a place within line side of the White House, and there's some kind of overthrow and revolution, that'll be the last place they take. That's going to be, that's going to be where they're going to be finding ref. Refuge on their on their March across I don't think American communists want Chinese communists anywhere around I think they want to start their new communist thing. They don't they're not into foreign. I mean not I mean they're gonna need to know if I was a communist Real communist I would look to China's like the gold standard for what? Generally outdated fascist communist they get thrown around a lot. I mean there's some application of them But I mean the general principles are I think allied more or less I don't know man. Yeah, I so look I mean you look at the way that that you know people that are communists or socialists they've gone to Cuba they've met with Cuban officials Same thing with there's this I forget the guy's name, but he's a big Big funder of of you know communists here in the US and he lives in China You know you look at some like Hassan who's gone to China on what is sent amounts to you know Trip so he can glaze China. I don't think they're as separate they're they're as separate and distinct as as you might believe they are You know, maybe I could be a little wrong, but the feeling I I sense that the property rights with vanish immediately and the foreign Properties will be taken first because it's the easiest to take. There's nobody there guarding it I mean most of it you know a lot of it see I think that I think the most like the most likely scenario is like in my opinion is that The people that are like socialist communists they Achieve enough political power where they can basically alter the government That's part of the reason why I think the USA is actually such a big threat if they can actually and Democrats by extension Because they will do things like change the structure of the government if they're capable of doing if they get into positions of power They would do things like change the the entire structure of our government and basically ensure that they can't be voted out You know, you see that you see that exact model has happened in California. It's almost impossible like nobody Legitimately thinks that a Republican will ever take any kind of you know state position in California. It would take Dramatic dramatic popular support of a Republican that just doesn't exist in California Not to say that there aren't Republicans in California, but there are just so many people that don't that would never vote Republican Just Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor. Yeah, but that wasn't just either. That was 20 years. He was famous No, because he ran after I believe It was after Jerry Brown got recalled So he ended up winning with like 14% of the vote. Yeah, I think Torelloans came in second. Oh, and wide receiver Yeah, and Gary Coleman came in third And I think a stripper was fourth it was like he won with He won with like teens because of the because of the way the California recall process works If you recall the governor and then he loses any basically anybody can run. Yeah, and when you know people talk about, you know Well, Reagan was was the governor of California, but he was a Democrat when he was if I understand correctly And that was also 60 years ago. Yeah people though a lot of people lament Reagan like they talked oh Reagan that was That was so long ago. Yeah, that was an unbelievably long time ago and Even with Nixon. Nixon was a Reagan was a Republican from from California But and the Exodus has happened statewide races whether it's Senator governor and some of these I mean, I don't want to I don't want to throw shade on Steve Hilton their Bruce Blakeman who I know Bruce very well I held him get elected twice on Long Island, but the Exodus that has happened Things have to get so bad that people go we just need something different. Yeah, I'm hoping in New York that that's Mamdani But you know Because everyone who left the Republican. Yeah, that's why if you see I mean just think about it in this context George Bush won Florida by 530 votes in 2000. Yeah, Ron DeSantis just won by three million That's 25 years Like the Exodus of Republicans from blue states down to places like Florida and Tennessee and the Caroline is this astronomical I want to I think this is an important story talking about this Chinese guy buying property here next to the White House Because I brought this up on Friday this came up last Friday and I read the comments of that show and so many people said Foreign citizens should not be legally allowed to buy property or land in the United States Why is that allowed and it's like a veil had been lifted it that maybe most people don't realize What a crazy thing that is Until you Until you notice that it's happened like It's the most common who would ever sell A bedroom to someone that doesn't live in their house who would sell it just is shocking I understand that we're a global corporateocracy and in a sense and that's sort of why this is being ushered around under the under the sheets But dear God do something about it Legally, I mean I mean to do something about it. You need Congress to actually pass a law. Yeah, and Congress doesn't do that anymore Do they even know what's happening? I'd yeah, of course they know I wonder these foreign nations will use our freedoms Against us. Yeah, they'll say well, you know, there's nothing in America. This is I can't do it. Mm-hmm now Force a local municipality folk force a a farm town in Iowa That has two thousand people in it to file a lawsuit At which the Chinese Communist Party will fund the other side. Yeah, let me know how that lawsuit goes I mean, you think the money that big tobacco spent against the government is why I'll imagine what the Chinese Communist Party or the Crown Prince of of Qatar or any of these I'm talking about like the the families that own country is like And Mohammed bin Salman Delphur all the money in the world just to beat some What so you can buy two thousand acres in Idaho and control the potato distribution of that region like They'll use that against us and they they've been doing it for years and nobody steps in because nobody wants to appear You know Zia Fomek there. Yeah, and that's that's a big part of it so different between like Some guy comes here with his family and wants to buy a house and maybe illegal and like a shady LLC That's backed by weird money from Oman Yeah, and and even if we say oh, well, you know, we we're not gonna allow foreigners to To purchase property. They'll just start an LLC in in In Delaware or whatever this and foundation. Mm-hmm. They'll that's exact. You know, so I don't know that that the idea of Of preventing people that are not American citizens from owning property or in the US would actually work I that's very simple. Hold on hold on. I'm very sympathetic to the idea and I do and like I said I think it might have been a Daniel Turner that said make them lease it, but But that's not a bad idea. You know, I say look this property cannot be purchased by someone that's not an American citizen So you have to you have to lease it or whatever But even still you you look at the the decision by the Supreme Court about you know anchor babies basically the recent recent Supreme Court decision. Well, if you're born here, you know, there are plenty of people That are that are anchor babies or that are here that that have you know far more allegiance to their home country than they do to the United States And they'll and if the if the home country comes knocking it says well, we want you to buy this will pay for it You but you have to do this and if you don't we've got your family here and we're gonna, you know It'd be a shame if they're they're you know, their business was shut down or what or your cousin ended up in jail or what have you That's what they would do. They would just have a kid and then you would have a two-year-old By a house next to the White House in cash, you know like you know, I mean there's nothing stopping a two-year-old from spending Eight and a half million dollars. Well, you know, I think you have to the signature might be a thing So I do but you I get your point. Give a cry on you're right. It looks like it was 1789 Pennsylvania allowed started passed a law to allow foreigners that were not at war with to purchase and hold real estate and then in 1798 it was New York So it's state-by-state 1873 and then eventually the United States in 1887 was like actually this is we don't need it anymore Because back in the day we needed foreign help we need to foreign money. We need to foreign individuals now We don't not really not like we used to and then the in 1887 they started putting federal restrictions on this stuff Even if Congress did pull itself together and pass legislation there will be workarounds as soon as because a law is basically It's it's an illusion and it's a it's a big boulder tossed into a creek and as soon as it goes there It stays there and the water moves around it. It's the same case with the law any law Guaranteed are gonna be lawyers that figure out a workaround So even if they did pass a wall. It's not gonna it's not gonna be implemented with any meaning And you know this is the purpose all slaves is what I'm saying. Sorry You know, this isn't you're right But um, you know, this is the perfect example like do I want a government? Okay, here's hypothetical no I want a government who Has the power to walk up to whoever purchased this and go you don't own that anymore right right No, I don't want a government that powerful. However Should we like do should should there be a mechanism for the American government to stop the shidee's coffee to party from Buying property a seven iron away from the White House. There should be You know, I think that there should be some I don't know what like I said, I don't have an answer But that's a golf shot. Mm-hmm from someone who's bad at golf I know cuz we protect individual property rights because if if if there were a thousand people in a city in 99 wanted to take one guy. land, the federal government would say, you can't. That guy still has a right to his property, even though everybody else wants to take it. But when you're not an American citizen. Ten of non-citizen come here and buy a gun. No, I think to purchase gun, I think you have to be a citizen. But yeah, I think you have to be a citizen. Yeah. You wouldn't not have to. Extend your own. That's the land too. I don't know. That's it. All right. You know what? Like he said, it's kind of obvious. Same thing with the same thing as gun laws with, well, you can't do the same thing with gun laws as property, right? Because then nobody in New York would own any property. All right. Also the whole like if we're not at war with the country, they can buy land things weird. Because if we declare war on the country, then do we just seize all the property of all the German citizens? We've literally seized one. I think we did that once before. We seized people's bodies and put them in internment camps. I'm going to say I'm pretty sure that all West Coast did that in for the 42 property, too, that they take Japanese Americans. Well, they didn't, I don't think they actually took it because they got it back. That is, that is one of the, you know, the silver linings of some of the bad behavior of the United States engaged in during war war, too, is it wasn't, it wasn't the same kind of thing that like the Nazis did or the gulags where you were worked to death. Like you were, they rounded people up and put them in camps, but they weren't like trying, they weren't attempting to work them to death. Yeah. And they didn't, you know, which are what your distinctions that left us like to the people that hate America. It's like, oh, we had to, yeah, not all of those are the same. It was bad and it was bad. I've done it, but I mean, maybe, maybe there would have been a Japanese uprising in California if we didn't probably not. I don't know, it's time to tell, dude. I think the agents was to the empire. Yeah. I'm getting like man in the high castle vibes, right? Yeah. I great show. It is as good. I don't, I don't, I'm not, I don't see any evidence that would have, would lead me to believe that the Japanese were going to rise up because most of the Japanese, most of the Japanese that were in turn, they were like, look, we're Americans. You know, they, they weren't like, they weren't like, oh, you know, and they wanted to be America. Yeah. That, that, that, most people that came to America back then, they wanted to be Americans. It's not like today where there were a lot of people that come here are looking for a handout. You know, the 40s didn't have the same kind of social services. The Civil Rights Act hadn't passed, like there, and there was a certain, a certain understanding that they were expected to assimilate to become Americans. And that's why you had things like parents telling their kids, look, you, you don't speak Japanese here or you don't speak the old language anymore. We speak English because we're Americans now. And they, they really did, like you hear that story all the time from, from young people, no, not young people now, but like, you know, people that are, are maybe boomers age or, or maybe a little bit older, that were like, look, when we came here, my parents, you know, made sure that we spoke English because we were Americans now. Nowadays the attitude has come here and you don't have to become American. And, and so I think that your, your concerns are more, more from a, a modern context because America, people that come to America now, they don't assimilate the way they used to it. Back in the, in the 30s, 40s, 50s, the people that came here, if they were able to get here, they, they, they, they were trying to become American. Yeah. I think throughout history, I wish I had some examples off the top of my head of like when you're invading a country that if there were your citizens were in that country, if people that spoke your language lived in that other land as soon as you get there, they're going to join you. So if, if all the Chinese Americans, for instance, here with even maybe some family in China, maybe they don't, if there was a war between the Chinese and the Americans and the Chinese landed in like Alaska and started coming through Canada, what do you think we should in turn the, all the Chinese Americans we can find because it kind of seems like we should. Well, I, again, nowadays, I think it's a different context. There were, there were so many people that have come here illegally. China has absolutely been using birth through room. I mean, tourism, they go to Guam, they go to last week, they did something on it. Yeah. They arrested a bunch of guys. Yeah. You know, basically China has been there, there are people that can, or there, there are companies that will, you know, fly pregnant women to US territories so that way the child can be born there. Once the child's born there, they get a birth certificate and then back China with them. And that kind of thing has been going on for, you know, 30 years or whatever. I don't know. I don't know the degree to which it's been going on for the pet for 30 years, but I know in the past, you know, 10, 5, 10, it's been, been, there's been a significant increase. I mean, it is so crazy. The, the concept of birth, there is such a difference between like people who are going through the process and want to be here for it. And then like one, two, like, even if, even if you use, even if you give people the best of intentions, you're pregnant. And then you go on vacation to New York for the same Patrick's name you read and go into early labor accidentally, not intentionally. You have every intention of going back and you can have a kid, he's an American citizen. That is bananas. Yeah. That concept. I mean, that came up during the World Cup, the, the flowbellium that literally happened to his mother. She came here on vacation. She was too pregnant to leave. Now he's an American citizen. Yeah, it worked out for us because he's really, really good. But, you know, it didn't work out for us. It worked out for the team, I guess, or the team, but it's just just the concept that that's available is bananas. I know. I don't want to implicate all Chinese Americans because that's horrific. That's what I know. Plenty of Chinese people, Chinese Americans. I don't want them in turn. If there was some conflict between the Chinese, but how can you tell? How can you tell who's who? How can you tell where their allegiances are? And how do you know if their allegiances will or won't flip if the tide of war starts to change? Well, I don't think you could do that now because I think while they were interning the Japanese, a lot of people probably didn't know what was happening. You know, like, you can't do stuff like that now. With social media and stuff, they'd be protested outside of each one of them. I'm not saying you should, but I don't think that that's a possibility now. And I'm sure people are going to compare it to ice detention facilities and that's not remotely the same thing. That's an unserious argument that to be honest with you. I nipped it. Yeah. You even had time. I'm a legal citizen. Yeah. In turn, you know, not illegal people that are not supposed to be here. I was we've had some some discussions about that. And I think that even entertaining those arguments is a bad a bad strategy because if you entertain an argument, you're you're you're implicitly saying, well, that's a reasonable perspective. Yeah. You know, I'm going to address this. That's a reasonable thing. So let me explain why you're wrong. That kind of stuff. It's just like at a hand. Well, it was shut up. Whatever. That's why I like to nip it right away. I like to I like to call their argument out before they do. Yeah. Yeah, man, it's more about legal doing things legal, but immoral, like, you know, orders owning American land in my opinion. We've been missing something. Like we've hit such an inflection point with it that there has to be these sorts of drastic measures. I was talking to somebody the day and they were like, well, how many how many immigrants should be led into America? And I said none because it's the the the leak has gotten so bad that you must first turn off the faucet. Yeah. And then figure out where everything's at. And then I'm going to think we can't open it again. But what I'm saying is the problem has gotten so complex. You can also turn down the faucet and drain the sink at a faster speed than the faucet's pouring out. Technically, you could have a slow immigration with enough deportations. Well, if it's a pipe in the wall, yeah, I mean, you got it, you got to close the league before you just damaging the property. Shut it all down. You know, we've had we've had like the the administration says that they've had zero illegal crossings at the at the border since Trump became president since the they've kind of said, okay, we're, uh, you know, we're actually going to close down the border. I assume that it's probably not zero because there are still like tunnels that you hear about and stuff like that, but it's it's almost none and it's it's significantly fewer. There's still views overstays and stuff like that. But the, you know, we should do everything we can to shut down immigration for a decade. Maybe maybe two. That's a, you know, I would have no issue with that at all. And look, like you said, once you turn it off, if it turns out five years from now, we need something. Okay, let me make an adjustment, but we don't do that in America. We either, we either the pendulum never, ever lands in the middle now. It's just it's starting to, the pendulum started to swing. I'll, yeah, just to just to get to each side going straight across and get to each side quicker. Yeah, I, I think that the like we've talked about like the O1Vs and stuff and, and, you know, maybe you could let in 10,000 people a year, but like we don't need to have the we certainly don't need, uh, completely open border like that, like the Biden administration had for four years, where anyone that could get here could get in. You have no idea how many we were just talking about, you know, China and stuff. There were tens of thousands of illegal Chinese entries. Yeah, you know, the, if you went down, there were people that went down to the Dairy and Gap. And there were just camps of Chinese people that were heading up to the border, you know, and look, whether people like this kind of, this kind of way of describing or not, China is an adversary. They're not a geopolitical partner. We are not rivals. They are, they're an adversary and they are and will do every everything they can to hurt the United States in any kind of way that they can, that fall short of military conflict, they have brought in blights, they have tried or they've tried to smuggle in blights to hurt crops, they have done all sorts of nefarious stuff. You hear about industrial espionage constantly from from Chinese, uh, I think they invented a respiratory thing a while back. That could be, you know, I mean, I heard something about that, you know, uh, I think it was, I think John Stewart said it. Yeah. Oh, and then that was a little fuzzy because, uh, the elites, I'm not sure where they got the money for that. So that was a little fuzzy. I had a diary to read. For the record, I'm Xenocentric. I was like, what's, you know, there's xenophiles, xenomining foreigner, alien, uh, xenophile means I love foreigners, xenophob means I, I'm afraid of foreigners, but that's Cheshire P2 to give me a Xenocentric. There's got to be a better suffix. Xenocentric out of neutral about foreigners. I don't care, but I care about the rule of law and the sustainment of our social fabric, you know, it has nothing to do with who you are, where you come from. Can you do it? That's my question. Can it be done? Xenocentric. I like that. Yeah. All right. We're going to jump to this story here from Fox News, talking about New York a little bit. New Yorker takes over on Mamdani's free bus promise literally as MTA loses millions and skipped fairs. You know, Mamdani told me the bus was free, so I don't have any money on me, you know. Um, yeah, from Fox News, political promises of free buses in New York City are contributing to a spike in fair evasion that is costing the city's mass transit system millions of dollars, transit officials mourn in July, metropolitan, transportation authority, MTA chair, Jan O'Liber blamed a political rhetoric for fueling fair evasion. Though he never mentioned mayors or on Mamdani by name. There's a trend that broke out. Library told reporters following a meeting of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority board, according to the New York Post with malice towards none. I say all of the talk of free buses, it has an impact. The MTA reported that paid bus ridership fell nearly 8% in June compared to the same month last year. During Mamdani's first six months in office, bus fair revenue fell by 31 million compared to the first half of 2025. Agency estimates show nearly half of bus riders now skip the $3 fair. Mamdani made a slogan fast and free bus as a major part of his 2025 mayoral campaign. However, the MTA is controlled by Democratic Governor Kathy Holtchell and the state revenue city hall. While the mayor and Holtchell unveiled plans on July 8th to focus instead on speeding up bus routes, experts and union leaders say the free bus redder has already contributed to fair evasion. You must be kidding me. I do not believe it. Do you mean people heard Mamdani say I'm going to make the buses free and then they said I don't have to pay for the bus anymore? I'm shocked. Also, there's nothing the bus drivers can do about it. Of course not. They are instructed as I think they should be. If you just don't pay, they just let you on because what bus driver is going to get shanked and you want to fight it? I want to take over $3 that isn't yours. Not to mention post-COVID. They're all encapsulated in like plexiglass. They're in like a cocoon all day long. There's nothing they can even do about it. Are they bulletproof? I don't know. Probably should be. They know that just just breath proof. Yeah. That was that was the main thing. They'll stop a bullet but not COVID. Yeah, but I'm sure they are. I'm not really sure, but this is it's mind blowing because I wasn't shocked by the free part when he said it. I was shocked when he said he was going to make them fat because I just would love to almost every one of his policies can be can be refuted with a question from a second grader. You can just go to you're going to make the bus is fast. Nitrous. So you're with nitrous. So are you suggesting you are going to solve New York City traffic? Yes. Because that's why they're slow. They're not slow because the bus is slow. They're slow because it's bumper to bumper traffic on 7th Avenue at 6 o'clock at night. Like it is you're going to get rid of cars. You know, you're going to give them they're going to give them legs like adats from from the Empire Strikes back. Oh, yeah, those things actually exist, but I don't was that the plan? No, that was not the plan. But I think his plan was to just yell things and then go, man, kind of like when he said he was going to build more affordable housing in New York City and not one person looked at him and went, great, we need more of that. Where? It's not like we have sprawling landscapes, although you can just build like Brazillia style apartments. Everything this guy has said could be could be refuted by a first grader. I really like basic question. Why would anyone want to be when he says they all the plans sound so good though? Yeah, they just get to make a fast and free and then sloganering. Yeah. Like his housing director, CEO Weaver who tweeted, we need to elect more communists. Yeah. And then there's people out there going, no one's a communist. And I don't know. There's actually one right there. And then there's one there. And one next to him, she didn't say we need to start electing communists. He said we need to elect more as as to say, they were already someone like Katie Wilson in Seattle that nobody's seen in like six months. I thought this was a this is a good lesson for Zoran about human nature. They will not learn it. What's that? Well, I hope he's learning it in real time right now that if you offer someone something and you don't give it to them in a timely manner, they will seek to take it. Maybe that's what he wanted though. Well, they're definitely taking bus rides aren't they? Yeah. Like you said, it was free. You didn't give me free. So I'm taking free. That's what you said it was going to be. Well, it's the same thing because now he's got to go back to the state for more money because nobody's paying for the buses. Nobody's paying for the subways. And then you'll see people on TikTok saying that he balanced the budget. And it's like, no, he just robbed the people from Buffalo. So now if you live in Buffalo or you live in Rochester or you live in Binghamton, that's six hours away from the city. You're now paying for the seven terrain that takes me to city field question about New York. I don't know. This is kind of new, but have erase taxes in the state. Yes. And he's coming to office. There hasn't been a budget yet, but there will be next year or there there will be the next fiscal year or and they, uh, they're raising them astronomical amount. Oh, it's like it is, it is insane what they're doing. But what they're saying is, Oh, no, no, we're just going to tax the top one. And there's a reason why they do this. Why they say top 1% top 10% because it doesn't give you a defined number. So if, as I said before, with like someone like Ken Griffin, he's worth $500 billion. He leaves. Now the 1% gets down here. And when they leave, the top 1% is here. And they keep going down until they eventually get to regular people. And that's why they use percentages. Now, if they came out and said, we're going to tax everybody worth over $100 billion. I don't think anybody would have, all right. Well, I may be principally, you'd have a problem with it. But as I said, Ken Griffin, I'll live right if the top 1% is like 10 people and all those 10 people leave. Now the top 1% is like 100,000 people because of the, yeah, Jacob. And so I mean, look, if we tab and we're all, well, nobody here is rich. I don't think. But if we taxed the top 20% of this room, one of us regular people is in trouble. You know, I'm not, I'm just, I assume everybody's regularly doing well here. But, you know, I don't know. Right. They're not taking 1% of the wealth. They're taxing 1% of the population. Is that what they mean? I mean, it's a bit of an optimization. It's the top 1% of what the earners are. But if everyone, let's say everybody in this room made, made 10 bucks and one of us made 11, that would be the 1%. That's why they, that's why they never give it a dollar amount because if they gave it a dollar amount, that would limit the number of people by giving it a percentage, you can keep going down the wrong because if the 182 billionaires leave New York City, now you're taxing the top 1% of millionaires. And when the top 1% of millionaires leave now 100 millionaires, then you talk the tax top 1% of the 10 millionaires, then eventually you're, well, I mean, all of those, those policies, they, they end up like including the middle class, right? And, and basically, hollowing out the middle class. You end up with a very rich, you know, top and then everybody else support. And that's something that you've seen, you know, in every socialist society, there's no, there was no real middle class in Russia. There was, in the Soviet Union, there's no middle class in Venezuela before, uh, before Maduro was, it'd be even worse here in America because of our idea of federalism. If you were well off the Soviet Union from one end to the other, the rules were the same. Yeah. There was no option. You couldn't move from, if things sucked in Moscow, you couldn't move to St. Petersburg. I'm just naming it in the place here. You just leave. So that's what everyone's doing. Well, states are, states are trying or have, have flouted the idea of an exit tax. So if you leave one state and California, obviously, is who, who did it, um, if you try to leave, you have, you have to pay some kind of, uh, some kind of exit tax. Now, there is an exit tax if you give up your citizenship in the United States. I think that it makes an exit in East Berlin, possibly, in a pay to get to the other side, who's a bullet back. Um, but, but yeah, the US, you have to pay an exit tax if if you are giving up your citizenship, you have to pay like 50% of your, to give up your, it's something like that. - We would do that, right? But to, in the, within the states, it's actually like, it's very, very, very questionable if that's constitutional because of the equal protection clause and stuff like that. - Well, it's one of those things that they would pass knowing that the court would strike it down and then they could complain about the court. - Yeah, well, I mean, another thing is you, you can, you pass it and then until the court hears it, it's, it's treated as law. So, all the people that we're thinking about leaving are like, well, I gotta wait until we find out what the court says, you know, and that could take. - And they keep and they don't take out taxes or stuff like that. It is, the amount they're taxing people is unsustainable and they're doing it every which way. And it's fees and it's not necessarily attacked, but we're gonna raise this and leave the congestion pricing, the congestion pricing in New York City, they implement it to pay for the MTA. So, between, I think it's, I wanna say, it's like 20th Street and 80th Street or it's like the more touristy areas in New York City. If you drive into it, you pay a toll. - When did that start? - Well, maybe 18 months ago or two years. - How did you get it for a while? - I don't know what it is. - I got implemented. The best is they did, so there's two ways, well, there's a few ways to get it to Manhattan. You can take the Midtown Tunnel which you have to pay for or the 59th Street Bridge, which is free. So, if you didn't wanna pay a toll, you would just get off and take the bridge. It was a little longer. They started the congestion pricing on the other side of the bridge. So, now there is quite literally no way to enter Manhattan without paying for it. - Is it like an auto? - Yeah, it's like a, and now with easy pass, you don't even notice it just comes right out. Every time you cross into the, between 20th and area street, some easy pass beeps on your vehicle. - Jeez. - I definitely have the blocks wrong, but it's the more touristy areas, like the residential ones all the way uptown where people actually live. Nobody actually lives in Midtown, that's where the offices are. But those are the ones that got hit with this congestion pricing. If you take an Uber through that area, does the Uber price then go up? - Yep, yep. - There was one guy, the way they set it up, he lives on a one-way street. On 59th street. So, in order for him to leave his house, he had to pay the congestion pricing. - Wow. - It was like, and he couldn't go the other way 'cause it's a one-way street. This guy was literally like, "I can just, I never can park on my block ever again." 'Cause, of course, nobody thinks anything through. But with the mom down anything, like, there's no penalty. And then you think to yourself, then regular people. When you, if you're waiting in a five-person line to get on a bus, you got your three-dollar metro card. And the four people in front of you don't pay. - How stupid do you feel paying? - Oh my God, I used to watch people jump to turn styles on the subway. I'd just be like, the. - Exactly. - Oh, so annoying. - So they didn't line in a CVS and somebody goes walking out with a basket full of shampoo and then you stand in line going, "Who's the idiot here?" - And I tell you, if desperation kicks in and you're actually starting to suffer financially, that becomes that temptation, like, skyrocket. - Yeah, for me it did, and it was desperate. - Oh yeah, and look, and here's the important part when it comes to this, and I try to tell this to people, it's like, if you're like a mother and you're stealing milk, you will not go to prison. You will not get arrested. If you're like stealing formula, it's when you're stealing shrimp or like lobster tails or, you know, expensive razors. That's those, no one has ever, I don't think anyone has ever gone, actually gone to jail for stealing a loaf of bread. Like, in New York. - In New York. I think that if you got caught stealing a gallon of milk and you're like some 24-year-old mother, it doesn't have any money. I fairly certain whoever would just go, take it. Like, real communism, that's coming soon though for them. - Yeah. I'm kind of with it. - Well, that's with the grocery stores. That's why you have to show your ID. Oh no, no, you've already hit your max. 'Cause what's gonna happen is people gonna go into the grocery stores and a 30% off, they're gonna load up on fruit, and then they're gonna stand on the next street corner and sell the fruit. So they're gonna limit how many you can buy with your ID. It's baits, and they're like, oh no, that's not gonna happen. I go, no, no, no. - Yeah, it is. - It is gonna happen. - You know, I know it is because everything else you told me wasn't happening. Happening. - Yeah. - By the way, you get a freeze of rent? Yeah, all time high. Average one bedroom apartment in New York City right now. 60. - Oh, that's the average. - That's the average. - Yeah. - Oh wow. - An 60, 600 dollar. - Well, one bedroom apartment, bro. - That's probably the size of this one. - What, like in Brooklyn or Manhattan, or upper United, oh wow. - Oh man. - That's, it's astronomical. You have twice the price of Chelsea when I was in New York like in 2014. - Well, because here's what we did. We imported 6% of the population with illegal immigrants. And they gotta live somewhere and their government subsidized. So landlords are gonna rent out to the government subsidy. So it raises the price of the market value. - You're in New York native right now. You live in New York now? - I live in Long Island now. - Do you think about leaving or do you just champion the city? - Every time you guys invite me down here, I get closer to back home. - Oh, that is beautiful. - Every time I go anywhere south of New Jersey, I just think to myself, I don't know, I am more runny, like what am I? Like I said, I was speaking to Tennessee and I'm just looking at it. I'm like, I get butt like for the for a down payment on a crappy home where I live. I could get a palace outside of Nashville. And every time I say it, my phone picks it up and I get like real estate. - Oh yeah, I get, oh, I'm just outside of Houston. Look at this for 300,000. It's like a brand new three story with an Olympic swimming pool. - Because you're like, that's your focus. You set up the top of the show. Like your main focus is to help people in the schools in New York. I like to focus, you have more power in your local elections than most people think. It's actually not that difficult to win a local election if you know what you're doing, like school board level and some of that because you really have more control. I mean, a presidential race. You can do a lot for the state you live in, but you don't really have an impact on strategy, but your school board race. I mean, we won one school board race out in the Hamptons in a town, it was amigants it. We won it with 16 votes. Awesome, how many total votes were there? 40, 42 I think there were. There was like, it was nothing. It was three candidates and we won it with like one extra. But like, you have that sort of power on a local level and that's what I try to focus on because it's actually, that actually changes your life, you know. Trump has an impact, Biden's got an impact, but you know, who you elect to your PTA board or your city council really impacts you a little bit more. Where's the way, how can we emphasize that more? It's tough because there's so much focus on national stuff, even you might know your member of Congress, but you don't know the member of Congress in the district next to you. Most people can't name their state representative and that's really where the decisions get made. I see Phil, Phil giving the a nod, how are we doing? We're going to chats. No, not quite yet. We got one more story. From the Guardian, Hawaii braces for a direct hit from Tropical Storm Lila. Tropical Storm Lila is said to hit Hawaii's big island with hurricane force in a matter of hours, bringing dangerous wind, heavy rainfall and high surf and a sign of what's strengthening to a super El Nino and the Pacific in the Pacific may bring. Ian, I just want to know why are you allowing this? I didn't even know, it's what you don't know, you don't know. And I didn't know, I didn't know this. I just heard it for the first time today. And this is the first hurricane documented in the, since the 20th century, when we started recording weather patterns, ever to hit the big island of Hawaii, if it's going to hit, which it sounds like it's going to hit, whether, I don't think it's the first one. It's, well, there have been tropical storms before, but never a hurricane to hit the big island, really. I just read that earlier before the show. So I thought you didn't know about this. This first, I've heard of it, I don't know. It's just another hurricane, man. How did you know that it was the-- I already searched, I guess. How did you know that it was the first hurricane to hit the big island? Before we went live, I'd look at it. Oh, OK, about it, and I asked if there-- because I thought Pacific Ocean didn't have a lot of hurricanes because it's so cold. And generally, it doesn't. Like the Atlantic's known for hurricanes because it's so warm and the temperatures fluctuate. Well, what are you going to do about it? We could pray, we could focus, meditate. But the thing about moving weather around is it's going to hit somewhere. You might be able to disperse it, but that pressure gradient's going somewhere. It could do a lot more damage somewhere else. Pacific's real big. Just have a life, real small. I tried in that Florida hurricane, I focused, and I focused, and then it went to North Carolina and obliterated a city in North Carolina. North Carolina is a long way away from Hawaii. No, no, there was a hurricane going to Miami, and I almost had all these friends there. And I did a live stream for like two hours where I was focusing positive energy into the clouds to try and disperse this hurricane. And then all of a sudden, the hurricane moved around Florida and smashed North Carolina and destroyed a city. You know that city I'm talking about? Yeah, I remember the black hills. Like a bunch of people were streaming in Miami, like yeah, the hurricane's getting pretty bad. And then it just didn't hit Miami. So good, thank you God for listening, but at the same time, it's like what you wish for, be careful. Do you ever think when you're trying to change the weather that the weather's ever changed, do you? Oh, every day. No, no, you know, I haven't thought a lot about that, but you're right. Actually, yes, because when you focus positive energy, to disperse the clouds. You feel better. I do. When I focus negative energy to draw them together, it, I get miserable. I get tense. I get, you've got, uh, you've got a few hours. It's supposed to, when is it supposed to make landfall? You can slow it down. Uh, I mean, the weather changes me all the time. Sometimes it makes me very hot and sometimes it makes me change my clothes. Yeah. Sure. It has that effect on you. When it rains, I get no longer dry. So Hawaii was last hit by a major hurricane in 1992. But not the big. Oh, wow. From what I am. Well, yeah, Hawaii, the big island. The big island of Wahu. Oh, who's not the big island? Hawaii's the big island. The big island is called the island. More than one island. Yeah, Hawaii's the big island is Hawaii. Uh, then there's like a Wahoo, uh, Maui. Like I had any, I'd tell you, I couldn't name any of you, right? I'll be right. No, there's, uh, there's a Wahoo. There's a Wahoo. There's Maui. There's Hawaii. There's like, there's, I think the actual archipelago is like, there's too many islands for me to list off. But the ones that people know is like Lana Kai, uh, Wahoo Maui, uh, I think more the Kai Hawaii. I'll get out there. It's way more than I couldn't name it. And it's Hawaii with an apostrophe between the, the last two hours. As opposed to the state. Yeah. The state has no apostrophe, but the island does. Interesting. They discern them. Okay. So you're, maybe you're, what I read earlier is not true, but I'm going to look again. Uh, uh, that was strange. Man, I got a buddy over there right now. All right. So we're going to go to your, uh, we're going to bring in the discord college because there is no after show today because it's Friday. But we're going to head on over to our, our friendly neighborhood discord. Get some questions from you guys. I think we've got something in here. Um, but smash the like button, share the show with all your friends. Head on over to rumble.com become a member there. So you can watch the after show, which happens Monday through Thursday and then head on over to Timcast.com and join the discord. So you can jump in here and you can ask us questions. Uh, we do a, you know, we, from the discord, we do a pre show. You can talk to people that are going to be on the show that night. And there's all kinds of events. There's podcasts that people do in the discord. There's podcasts that got started in the discord. Like I said earlier, there's like 20,000 members or something like that, 25,000 members. So, uh, you know, there's a bunch of people. There's always something going on, you know, get in there, meet people, make some friends, you know, maybe you'll actually do some IRL stuff, you know. So, and by IRL, I mean, in real life, not some, you're not going to be on IRL. You never know. Oh, actually, that's true. We've had people from the discord on IRL before. Promising nothing. He's making promises, guys. He's going to hook you up. Um, yeah. So let's see here a game dev says, uh, Phil said the thing I'm having. You know, that well, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I was doing crime yesterday driving in the left lane. I thought of you very driving, like 80 because I was trying to match traffic and the thing said 70, but everyone was going 80 and they say you're supposed to drive with traffic. It does. You love that. How they pass you and then get in front of you when you're going the speed limit and you're like, well, what am I so crazy? And like even the driving instructor will be like, it's better to stay with tre, to drive the speed of traffic. Yeah. And to drive the speed limit. If they're going at different speed, like it's so confusing, but that's the United States. Welcome to what's a speed limit? Uh, I made a six hour drive once with no working spedometer. I just followed everyone else's speed and just hope that it didn't get it. It's fine. You say your technique. Taylor Ren says, how will Ian make reparations if he's unable to spare Hawaii from the hurricane reparations? With great power comes great responsibility. Ian. What am I, what am I repairing here? Well, if, if, if you can change the weather and you don't change the weather and then this hurricane hits Hawaii, it's your fault. That's like saying Elon Musk should give his wealth away. No, no, no, no. You could give your wealth away. Then why don't you should give it? No, no, no, no. There's no reason that they're not whether or not. If you can change the weather and you can save lives by doing it and then you don't, you know, the spider man said this went, when you can do something and you don't and then the bad things happen, it's your fault. I just, I think, I'll reiterate, I think that's the argument that they use against Elon to give us wealth away. It's not. I don't think so because because Elon's, Elon's wealth, Elon's wealth is, is actual property. Like he owns, he owns stocks and he owns. That's my body, Phil. No, it's not. Well, I mean, your body, yeah, but it's, yeah, but it's, it's an ability. Give it to me now. It's an ability is not your own, dude. And controlled by the spirits. That is true. It's, it's an ability you have, you say Ian's body. And it doesn't cost you anything. It costs me energy. I'll buy a lunch. It's more between the two of us. We can save a while. I'll buy a lunch and then you can save a while. You got to save a while. I haven't been there yet. Yeah. What do you do now? I want to go. All right. I'm going to start focusing. I want to just, I want to have a drink out of a coconut. All right. Thank you, Taylor, for that question. Let's see what do we got? What's the best V car back? Lothar says, what's the best misfits, Doyle song in your opinion? Oh, man, Pete, no, we're not saving that booty, Latina's. They are being deported. They're all going back. They have to go back. Maybe deported list. I think that it's a, it's an opportunity thing when, when you can, when you can snatch, when the, or when ice can snatch them up, they got to snatch them. When I start to focus energy into a hurricane, I can feel the hurricane inside of me. Yeah. Yeah. Did you pee your pants? No, but I'm about to. Oh, no, I can feel it. I can feel the torrent within my, within me. I mean, I don't know how sorry. In my court, it's like, it gets really, really intense. That's so cool. That's cool. It's not the first time it's happened either. I got to come down here more often. Tiger tank says for Phil. You're missing out, dude. Tiger tank says for Phil, we should keep all the big booty. Latina's in deport, depart all Muslims. I think that he meant deport. Look, anyone that's not a citizen has got to go. I don't care what their religion is. I don't care the size of their booty. They got to go. If you're not a citizen, if you're, if you're here illegally, out. Got to go. Got to get rid of them. What if the big, the booty situation like was like, oh, one status. Well, if they have an oh one visa, then they're here legally. Yeah. For hot body, that's not enough to get an oh one. Probably not. How how are we talking exactly? I mean, I mean, look at how the government. Nine's in above aren't illegal. How the government. I didn't think I saw that on a Trump executive order. That's how the fighting is working. Someone might have, someone might have meme did, but I know I saw it somewhere. The criteria that the government decides for the oh one visa, I am not, I'm not an authority on that. I don't. The oh one is, is like special circumstances like super like super smart people or whatever. Maybe if, if, if you were correct, super attractive people, but it would have to be only tens though. Like, oh ones are, we got to keep the numbers down. The number of people that are one is literally 10 backwards. Yeah. There you go. Good point. Good point. Good point. We definitely want to keep ones. We know. No, no. Although if you want to get, I will say, if you want to get women on board with the deporting, just make sure that everybody that's allowed to be, to, to immigrate is a very attractive woman. Women will be, they'll just be like, hey, all got to go. Women are, women are vicious like that. Push in Margot Robbie right back on that. See, get out of here. Get out of here. Let's see. Your mom's juicy says, fill wire, you GAE. I think it's gay. You know, I just had a kid. We didn't purchase the kid. Like, she actually had the kid stuff. So, his name, your name is juicy. The person's name is your mom, juicy. Your mom's juicy. Your mom's juicy. Yeah. It's juicy. All right. Let's see. Like at a laugh. All right. Let's see. Would you give a, some, Sir Jack says, would you give up your EV card to bring back V8s, make V8s great? Again, you can still get V8s. They're probably not as regular, but I mean, if you're talking about trucks, there's plenty of V8 trucks out there. But I mean, and if you really want a V8 car, there's plenty of cars that are V8s. I had a, a cheap grand Cherokee. That was a 5.7 liter. Man, that thing was great. And I got a, a, a Wrangler. It's a six liter, or I mean, it's a six cylinder. And I was thinking that I was going to save gas. Nope. Didn't save money on gas at all. Just didn't have the power. V8 means eight cylinders. Eight cylinders. Or do they stop making them? No, no. I think they're probably less, less common. But, you know, I mean, like, I'm pretty sure Corvettes are still using the, the V8s. I'm pretty sure, you know, your muscle cars are just, you know, even modern muscle cars, if, if people aren't going to berate me for using that phrase nowadays for modern cars. But, yeah, definitely wouldn't give up my Tesla. My Tesla is so much faster than a V8. Like, it's like two seconds to just, I think it's two seconds to 60 miles an hour. It's, it's so fast. Rail cannon on wheels. It's, it's stupid fast. That's why it's ridiculously fast. How long does it take to charge that? Uh, on a supercharger. If you're, if I'm like down to like 5%, usually like 30, 35 minutes, the home charger, I just plug it in every night and you just leave it on. So, when you get home, you just plug it in and it's, it's always plugged in and just as long as you plug it in, it's basically always full, you know, somebody isn't put a solar panel on top of a car. I don't know. Yeah. The car batter, the car bodies themselves will be able to become photovoltaic with the graphene and modern, like, metamaterials and stuff. That's going to be super cool. And there'll be batteries. The charge is a matter. Agam Dev says Phil is tank running local or using a which model if you don't mind me asking. Tank is a local. I bought a Mac and so Tank sits on the Mac. I use Sonnet for most of his operations for searches and stuff like that. I use GROC GROQ. It's a free AI and it works pretty well. And if I want to use like, if I want to use what is it? Not Mythos, the one above Sonnet. If I want to use Opus, I can use Opus. I think I can use actually any of the models that Anthropic uses because I have API keys, so I could tell them to use Fable if it's available or Mythos or whatever. But for my needs, Sonnet's fine. I think that most people think that you have to have or you want to be on the cutting edge, the frontier models. The frontier models are important when you're dealing with really cutting edge stuff. But if you're using it for like search or hey, can you tell me the story about this or I need to know more about this particular issue or whatever, you get a really, really good result with something like Sonnet. And then what was the other part of your question? Yeah, I use Clawed, I use Anthropic, but I thought about going over to GROC, but I'm not sure if I'm going to grok the GROK. Did you call it tank because of the hero from the Matrix? No, I just thought of something that was not human. Tank was like one of my favorite characters in that movie. He was a badass. He was just so righteous. He was like totally forgot about that guy. Yeah, that was awesome. Tank. No, I just wanted something that was not like, that wouldn't sound like a pet or like a human being or whatever. So, and I thought like as a robot named that kind of fit, you know. So yeah, that wraps most of the stuff we're going to do here. Kevin, thank you for for joining us. Absolutely. Where can people find you? You guys can find me every day at 3 o'clock, rumble.com/LFATV or if you type in Kevin Smith, it'll be the second one because Silent Bob ruined my life, which I'm sure you're all letting me know in the comments section. Yeah, I didn't write clerks, but I did read Goodwill Hunting. I'm willing to admit that. Even though he won't. Awesome. Chris car 17 on X. Check out my substet. Chris car dot substet.com. That's car with the KKAR. If I'm in E and Crosselin, it's my name E and Crosselin. YouTube's Spotify. You can't find me on Spotify. I got some music up there, but I follow me on all the social networks to awesome to see you do. Come back again. Absolutely. A lot of fun. Yeah, you can follow me at Carter Banks, everywhere at Carter Banks, official liverer, else, Instagram mainly, and then our record labels at trash house records on YouTube. But I do want to say, if you guys want to keep the night going after IRL, make sure to check out the Josie show live on discord on Friday nights at 10 p.m. Josie sets some incredible guests on the show. People like Scott Adams, Tulsi Gabbard, Rob Schneider, Rand Paul, Brett Weinstein, and a ton more. Having the kinds of conversations you're actually going to want to stick around for. And because it's live on discord, you're not just watching. You can jump in and ask Josie and the guest questions as well and actually be part of the conversation. So when IRL wraps, head over to the Josie show and keep the night going. And tonight she's going to go live with Owen Shroyer. So make sure to tune in. Phil, I am Phil. The remains on Twigs. You can check out my Patreon. It's patreon.com/Phil. The band is all that remains. You can check out our music on Apple Music Amons on music, Pandora, YouTube's Spotify and Deezer. Make sure that you check out clips from Timkast IRL and from Tim's Daily Show all through the weekend. And we will see you guys back here on Monday.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses Candace Owens' debate with Andrew Wilson about Charlie Kirk's assassination, where she admitted lacking direct evidence of Israeli involvement, promoting conspiracy theories instead.
  2. Luigi Mangione pleaded guilty to federal stalking charges for shooting United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, admitting premeditation to avoid potential capital punishment in state court.
  3. A Chinese Communist Party intelligence official, Philip Ku, purchased a building 650 feet from the White House, raising national security concerns due to his sniper training.
  4. The conversation critiques distrust in institutions, COVID-era policies, economic inflation, and leftist class warfare rhetoric, with debate over foreign property ownership in the U.S.
  5. Panelists argue about the justice system's flaws, jury selection challenges, and the cult following around Mangione, comparing him to historical figures like Lee Harvey Oswald.

Summary:

The podcast panel opens with a critical examination of Candace Owens' debate performance, where she conceded no direct proof that Israel killed Charlie Kirk, relying on unsubstantiated claims like 12 Israeli cell phones near the shooting. The hosts dismiss her theory as baseless, noting Tyler Robinson's confessions and DNA evidence, while warning that conspiracy narratives could undermine potential trials. They pivot to Luigi Mangione's guilty plea to federal stalking charges, viewing it as a strategic move to avoid capital punishment in New York state, with one host predicting a lighter sentence and eventual release, reflecting broader cynicism about the justice system.

S. real estate. The hosts advocate for restrictions, though they acknowledge legal workarounds and constitutional tensions.

Throughout, they connect these stories to a larger theme of institutional distrust, citing COVID-era lies, economic hardship from money printing, and leftist anger that glorifies figures like Mangione. They argue that systemic critiques often lack viable solutions, comparing the healthcare backlash to broader class warfare that harms small business owners, while emphasizing that America remains the best system despite its imperfections. The tone is skeptical of both government narratives and revolutionary impulses, urging pragmatism over conspiracy.

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Candace Owens claimed Israel was behind Charlie Kirk's assassination but admitted she had no direct proof, citing unsubstantiated theories like 12 Israeli-registered cell phones near the shooting scene.

Luigi Mangione pleaded guilty to two federal stalking charges, admitting he shot UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, likely to avoid capital punishment in the state trial and potentially secure a lighter sentence.

A senior CCP intelligence official, with sniper training, purchased a building 650 feet from the White House, raising security and national safety concerns due to the overwatch position.

The panel dismissed Candace Owens' theories as unfounded, noting Tyler Robinson confessed multiple times, had DNA evidence, and that the government's story seemed closest to reality despite past lies.

The panel saw it as a dramatic turn, noting he admitted his crime clearly, but expressed concerns about his cult following and the potential for a lighter sentence, reflecting distrust in the justice system.

The panel debated restricting foreign purchases, suggesting leases instead, but acknowledged legal workarounds and the complexity of balancing property rights with national security.

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