Cancel Culture vs Accountability

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Good thing, I don't know what happened with my AC, but I did not wake up fucked up today. So that is great win. Yeah man, pretty chill week. So, I was gonna say y'all you know, it's canceled culture versus accountability. Let's get into shit. So I'm starting with two phrases, just dead ass. Let's get to it. All right. You want me to be the first cat to get canceled? I got you. I'm gonna ask this to you. You probably should be, if it was out of his three for sure, probably be you. I don't get as much backlash as I probably should be, but you know, life happens that way for some people. But you, you don't pay attention. I think you less than 60 tall girls. Don't be tall. Man, that, that, that's messed up, but hey, that is slightly a factor, I suppose. Has your own opinion? I'm not saying all the research now, so the bullshit. And you're opinion from what you've seen. The, like, cancel culture has gone too far. It absolutely has, because we pick and choose who we want to cancel. And granted, that some people need to be canceled. Yes, look, say what you want. Our Kelly, please go ahead and be canceled. All right, we've heard too much, got too much information out there. I'm not going to be canceled. I get it, but a lot of people is like they're picking the children and it seems that it gets coming from particular groups who they want to cancel. And when you do that, that's when it gets the anger. It's because that's because someone, you know, has a view that you don't like for. Let's load down. Who the fuck is the, break it down. Who the fuck is the particular group you're talking about? Let's add a shit out. Add a shout out. Oh, this man want to get spicy at 8 o'clock in the morning. All right, cool. So check this out. Nobody has to know what time was doing this, but you just spill the beans. We'll go ahead. Keep going. We, they know now. There's barely a sale. Anyways, one of the groups that I'm seeing that's coming from, look straight up, it's starting from the LGBTQ, LGBTQ. Oh, canceled. Yeah. Now, but it just seems just that if someone has an opinion, you know, of the group that's just, you know, outside of the norm, it just seems, oh, they have to get canceled, which I feel like a part of it comes out under this. We're in a day and age where we grow up at group scene, it's like not the norm. Like you didn't really see, you know, no gay couples, you know, being from on TV and just how stuff like that being a norm. And honestly, a lot of people, they are used to it, but they have to adjust. But it's like rather than, you know, maybe people getting educated or whatnot, it's almost on some, man, we're just going to cancel them and like not allow sales, you know, to hear their opinion and adjust a lot in the growth. So that's an I don't think, I don't think that's cool. And honestly, that's pretty dangerous when, okay, you have a different opinion to me. Oh, well, now we're just going to cancel you anyway. And it's like, there's enough celebrity. We're just going to pretty much limit, you know, your grossing opportunity. And I just don't think that that's right. In my opinion. - Let me out an example. So, so people can understand what do you mean by like, LGBTQ community, somebody says something, they feel differently canceled this is. Okay, cool, you could take a picture. We can go with the baby, we can go with Bootsie, you know, either or both. And they said, you know, they say, you know, comments, you know, kind of disparaging to that particular community. And like straight up, you know, that wasn't cool. It doesn't matter, especially you know, Bootsie case, you know, if you grow up differently, you know, and oh, it's good, or you know, that really wasn't, you know, out there, especially, you know, being exposed to the younger generation. And granted the certain parts, I give what Bootsie is trying to say, but the way he said it was just pissed for a whole lot. But instead of people like, okay, you know, maybe someone rich on the Bootsie like, hey, yo, let's break this down to you like you said this, you know, me, you know, person, you know, that's maybe coming from that community. They hear that, hey, yo, this made me feel this type of way, this is why that, you know, top dangerous. Didn't really hear anything, you know, come on, but just came to, oh, got a cancel Bootsie. Just, hmm, got canceled. I can't believe, hold up, wait, it's not, let's try to see what can we do to educate this person. And if the person doesn't want to be, just want to kind of stay in the ignorance, then if you want to see about me, put a whole canceling, then I guess that's your prerogative. I don't know, I just don't like it. Just, when it's just so quick, oh, I don't like what you said about me, oh, just miss cancel just completely. I just don't like that. And of course, you know, with the baby, we just comments at the concert or whatever, like I say, not the, not the smartest, like I say, we're in a new day and age, rather than somebody trying to reach out to him to be educated, it was just like, oh, yeah, the baby, he canceled. And it's just like, okay, we really got to be mindful of that because a lot of people can end up putting on a whole being canceled, that really don't need to be canceled over, like, minor, you know, minor things. Outside of like, you know, the Bootsie and the baby examples. So that's my take on it. - But don't you feel like people are allowed the right to stay in the ignorance? - Two degree, yes. If you wanna stay in your ignorance, do you have a right to be an ignorance, you have a right to be wrong? But I feel like, you know, some of them on the other side, at least, you know, doing your part as I hate, just reaching out to you because, look, what you said, you know, made me feel this way and that try, like, maybe educate you on our community or something. Kind of in a similar aspect to, I believe was the sound Jackson, when he said a few comments, you know, that were seeing as me, you know, this is a very different, you know, and I want to say, during Edelman actually reached out to him, you know, to try to educate him, like, hey, you know, and I, you know, educate you, giving him, like, go to, honestly, I don't forget what that function is called in the Jewish community, but basically, one of their functions to eat more education on their community, stuff like that. That's where he was, I try to look, I'm outreach to you and try to, like, maybe give you some education so you can see, you know, where I'm coming from, where my people are coming from, that's the why that would be disrespectful. Something like that. Now, after doing that, and if, you know, the Shawn Jackson decided to do that, and he still, you know, saying, "Egan comments, then we'll have a different conversation." So that's a lot kind of look at it, if that makes sense. - Now I guess you, I just said, it's a corn, what about you? What did you talk about? Do you feel like cancer culture has went too far right now? You know, your head, like, what's good, then, my, you got 40 minutes, nigga, ain't gonna talk shit. But, yeah, you know, some aspects, cancer culture does go too far. I'm not gonna use the opinion that Vick used, because if I'm being honest, I think if you educate a pussy, you know, give a fuck, I just think he's one of those people. So I don't think education really helped that man. He feels like he feels, but, you know, always bring up, when it comes to cancer culture, I don't like counseling, people who did something done when they were young. You know, those 14, 15 year olds who, you know, we've all seen a tweet of the end word or this, something like that. I'm cool with you, hold it in my carnival, but if they're like super young, doesn't mean they don't know what they did, because you know, you had some people who like to bring that up, like, oh, he know he was, nah, nah, he knew the fucking story. But, shit, that bitter reason, his whole life goes down to shame and gets messed up at the age of 15, 16. Nah, like, yo, keep it moving, get on him, hopefully he changes. If he doesn't change, hopefully he's smarter enough, not put it out to where, you know, get fired up, like, you know, what was old boy, Joey Boasa, or the Nick Boasa, his brother, like, yo, we are, we knew your views, you knew what you said, but, you know, you were young back then. So hopefully, now you know better and you know not to say that, because I'm with Vic, some people deserve to get counsel. I'm perfectly okay with you, get counsel. But, some people, if they really don't know, and they're really trying to get educated, give them the chance, if they really don't know. Nah, the differences between me and Vic, what we kinda split on this, I just think some people don't care to get educated and they're going to feel how that feel. 'Cause I think I tell dead this, with Boosey, I ain't really care about what he said about the LGBTQ community, because I knew that. that's like, he should have got counsel. When that man admitted that I got a grown woman that has sex with my younger boy, just so he will intern again. That's where people shitting me at folks, you know. But because of this, you know, this levels of sensitivity you believe in it. And I'm pretty sure y'all can see it. That LGPTQ has kind of all the gas behind it right now. So whenever something happens with them, that kind of comes to the forefront. So it just is what it is right now. - I agree. I think to be honest with you, I do agree that some people do need to be canceled, but I feel like nowadays, if you are against LGPTQ in my own opinion, this is the only, this is more or not the only, but this is the main group right now. If you say any comment against them, cancel them, comment are opinion. And I feel like not all quote unquote, like if somebody has an opinion or a thought, like I feel like for a small scale, let's say you're like, hey, I don't believe in, you know, same sex and marriage, whatever. I don't think you need to cancel somebody. I feel like right now the way the fuel is, they don't burn quick. I felt like I was talking about my homeboy yesterday. I was like, honestly, the only way that could be against that community and I could be canceled, got that I'm cheekful. That chicken is too powerful for even somebody to be like, hey, good night. Get boycott this shit, you know what I mean? - Question. - Yes. - I was having this conversation with my other homeboy. Do you think the reason the level of sensitivity where you know, it's at right now, do you think that's because the lack of sensitivity we had towards them back in the day? 'Cause we can all sit here for-- - I know what you're saying. - But we all know, you know, I have no problem saying it. I have to show back in the day you should drop those other forms, like-- - I know. - I did not care. Smile you did too, don't try to front my brother. But like I was saying, back in the day, - No, the man pulled the laundry out, you know what I mean? It's just a murder, right? - Wash your clothes, brother. But like I was saying, you know, we all used to drop those elf moms, like we ain't kidding. That's just what the coach was. It wasn't until like, oh shit, we see that y'all actually offended letters, you know, like letters chill with it. So we not gonna sit here in front, like, we've just cared about this group for like, this is low key, it feels like it's been longest hell. But this is a group that we clearly just didn't value that much up until recently. So. - I mean, I'm not saying-- - I think that plays a big part. Go ahead, first. - Now, I was just gonna agree with Quon's point, 'cause you know, definitely, you know, back in the day, especially, you know, mid to school, you know, first year at high school, you definitely heard the F-bombs being dropped, lifting right, and really nobody, you know, really gave a care, you know, about a person's feelings when it came to that. And like I say, honestly, like I say, we're in a new day and age, and like, wanna say, we're in an ultra, ultra-level sensitivity. And like I say, this is becoming like the new normal to where, you know, people have to adjust. But it's like, you know, both ends, you know, people, you know, at once, I don't say, okay, we can't say, you know, these type of comments, it doesn't matter. You know how we grew up, you know, the way we grew up isn't the same. We can't, you know, say these comments. And I suppose those on the other side, they just have to be mindful too, that I don't like to say, oh, you know, he's canceled, oh, he needs to be fired, oh, he needs to release him, or just, yeah, it's great. There has to be some type of middle ground where both sides can, you know, come together and try to have some little agreement because we're just out here just cancel people because they have a, they say something, you know, you're out on like, and what's the style, you know, more or less, everybody on majority of people getting canceled, you know, doesn't really make sense when you look at it like that. So that's just something that, for like everybody, needs to be mindful of, like, as we move forward, because it's not like, this society is gonna get any tougher. Not yours, man. So your thoughts, I guess I'm a little confused, kind of know you said a whole lot of shit. So I would say I agree in your thought process, I say, Kwan, you added a new element to it that maybe we're, whenever something is new, we do it over. We have over, you know, like I guess a lot of the sense because to make up, to cover ground, to make up for it. That may be, I'm the answer to you, that makes a lot of sense. - And keep in mind, another example of this, and y'all know this well, we all know how I used to be back in the day, you know, way back in the day with accusations with women and men. Now, if a woman accuses a man, now, you know, we've seen what happened to the Sean Watson. We've seen what happened to some of these people now. It pits up speed a lot faster compared to back in the day, it was like, yo, that woman, why am blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, I think it's coming in ground to the point where it's like, yo, if they do, he trippin' blah, blah, blah, he full of, you know what, even though we still really don't know what he did, it's really just going off a public opinion if you feel he did it or not. So I think that's how a lot of things are now these where, because of the lack of sensitivity that we gave back in the day, going back to what Derek said, which I think was the perfect phrase for it. We're trying to, you know, pick up a little bit of game from what happened back in the day because we messed up so bad back in the day. And I do think that play is a huge part in the heightened level of sensitivity we're in because now you have people you just don't want it to go back to what it used to be back in the day. So now you kind of got to shut it down before the crank off. Right on hold in the conversation, but I think that's what a lot of it comes from, beyond this. - Yeah, no, I definitely agree because moving forward, you know, without kids and like this younger generation, like say, they're gonna be brought up different the way we were, you know, it's not like, you know, like, you know, we would hear those jokes, what not, and just say, you know, laugh out of me, you know, someone's, you know, maybe you, maybe even use them back in the gap. You know, now, you know, we have kids, we're gonna, you know, I like to think, you know, teach our kids that, hey, you know, you have to be mindful, you know, those that come from different, different communities than you. So it's like, you know, you can't say these remarks because that's disrespectful and that's hurtful. You wouldn't want anybody saying that about you. It's just, you know, pretty much a read, you know, teaching, you know, of the younger generation. So they can be better than we were at that age because granted, we didn't know. Cause you know, I didn't know any better, you know, when I was younger, you know, didn't really have these talks because it wasn't as prevalent, you know, it wasn't as prevalent, you know, nowadays, you know, from right to wrong, kids are exposed to a lot, like a lot, a lot. To where, you know, for like, it's parents, they need to make sure they're being mindful of just teaching their kids how to navigate in their new society and with these different groups. And there's no, hey, it's one thing here that some of these celebrities, you know, say this then the third, but look, you weren't them. You just can't just, you know, say whatever because the backlash is not gonna be the same with someone who has that little influence, you know, under behind them, as opposed to you, who just, you know, a normal citizen in society. And that's something that, you know, going forward, you know, people need to be mindful of with these young generations so they know how to act appropriately with these, you know, different communities, like, you know, LGBTQ. - So I have a question. So do we confuse cancer culture with accountability and how so? Air pain. - Woo. - That's a good question. I feel like that does get a little murky from time to time because this one thing, the older person accountable, you know, when they say something, you know, disrespectful to you or to a group, I get that completely because you can't let that slide. Because you do it once, then the thing is okay. But you gotta be real careful as far as like holding someone accountable, as opposed to flat out canceling. I felt like there was kind of like two different things. It's like, we canceled somebody. I felt like it's clear, okay, try to, you know, work this person, you know, try to educate them, but they're still saying these comments and okay, you know, with us, these are groups, you know, it's first and it's canceled because they've just shown they don't want to improve themselves. It's almost like you're dealing with, you know, taking the school route. If you're dealing with a kid, they just, you know, continually, continually, you know, they do bad, does he get in trouble? Is being low, bad as a kid? And it's like, okay, they're not improving them, so they're not doing better. - Give me any scenario that you feel like that has occurred, because I'm gonna be honest with you, I'll catch you off for all you say, am I being a different than cancer culture and accountability? Boosey, cancel culture, understandable, pattern. The baby accountability, which means is one phrase, one action, one moment that was incorrectly, you know, offensive or offensive in the general. And it's just like, they're both, they're both trying to be canceled by, I feel like the baby was more of accountability more than cancer and also kind of what palms being too earlier. I feel like some stuff with AIDS. We seen it before with these baseball players, but they'd be going, wow, the race is slurred, boy, high school, huh? They don't be thinking they're gonna grow on it. They'd be like, boy, God damn, boy, I'm like, damn, what, tweeting it. At the same time, they pulled the skulls without the clock. I was like boy got a big game. Look at that. Hey man, you don't see no 2012. He was pretty reckless dog. I don't see no before he plays. We see all stuff. You know? Yeah. No, man, no, I give what you said because it just seemed different because certain people, like when that comes out, I was like, oh, they got to be a counter or they have to get educated. Because like when that gets brought to light, like you say with someone on the baseball players, they're being held accountable for what they said. Granted, you know, maybe they were teenagers, but they're still being held accountable because like I say was Twitter, put that out there. Well, I like to think you're a different person from, you know, 10, 15 years ago. But that's, you know, kind of quote, unquote, holding them accountable and just say, okay, have you ever changed or you're just saying all this because someone scrolled through your tweet. And if you raise his comments, you said, you know, you were 14, 15 years old, thinking that, you know, there's just, you know, a little personal private journal when it's actually Twitter. But yeah, that's something that, for like that's different. Michael with the Sean Watson, the Sean Watson, the Sean Jackson in his situation. We're like, that's about, you know, holding, you know, someone accountable because like you said, these comments, you know, you get a lot of backlash for that. But see people like, you know, Julian Edelman, you know, whatever it was from, you know, the Jewish community, okay, look, we're gonna hold you accountable for what you said. We're also gonna do our part to make sure we educate you. So that way you can be better, like I say, like maybe a quance area like, you know, with, you know, a boozy, maybe a quote unquote being canceled because like say, boozy made just really not, may not just give a hook. And like I said, I think they removed him from, you know, Instagram and all that. So I don't know if he said, you know, any additional, you know, comments in regards to that community. But some might say like, baby, that's one of those, you know, quote unquote moments when someone needs to be canceled. But, uh, go on, let me get your take on it. - Repeat the question again. I wonder if I should I give it right? - I'm sorry, I was just dial out for, but, do you feel like we confuse the accountability with cancer culture and how? Like it was an example. - I think they both go hand in hand because I know, before I start, three things that I want to point out that people are foolish enough. When people say fake news, fake news is me, you don't agree with something. When people say, do you all research? Niggas are not doing they all research, I'm thinking nobody got to say, if they are doing they all research, they doing something that's going to approve what they're saying. Instead of actually trying to find shit to either, you know, go and guess what they're saying or actually be educated. And then when people say educate me, I'm gonna kill what people got to say. If you're at a certain age, you don't care about being educated like that. That's just me being honest. I think you're set in your ways. I've always needed like that. 'Cause I know I think I brought up this with Derek. I think I brought up this with Derek. With that John Grootish, when John Grootish did what he did, that man is 50 something now. That mean that man was 48 when he did it. Yo, you gotta go because clearly, nobody's, you're setting your ways and it's cool. You're setting your ways, you're good to go. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel, but ain't no changing that. And nobody clearly is gonna come in and educate an older grown man. So when it comes to like the Catholic culture and kind of bitterly, I think they both go hand in hand. I just think it depends on how bad was that situation. Like I agreed with you. With the baby, what he said was dumbest hell, it was ignorant whether I agree with it or not, you clearly can't get away with that stuff like that. Should you have been canceled for that? Don't really know our pride is safe. Especially when you came out, I think you apologize for it, whether it's sincere or not, I don't know all that, but you apologize you owned up to and you say you should have never said it. Yo, give him time, give him another chance. So if you really make that apology, you'll see that change later. But also with some people, like that's how they come to common. With niggas like John Gruden, maybe cancel that man. I'm beyond this with you because what he did, because we all talked about this. At first when he said the whole thing about the big lips and all that, no, he didn't really say that much about it. Everybody was like, well, you know, we could try to defend it. You know, we already know he was talking about black man and blas, a blas, a blas, a, we saw that man come at women. Saw that man come at the gay community. Once we saw him start going at every single community, you could think of, that's when they started picking up speed. And that's when you realize, oh, no, this is who you really are. Like we have proof on that now. We have to prove saying, this is what you said about the black community. This is what you said about the LGBT community. And this is what you said about women. All three of you are abuse that you cannot go in on like that. So for him, that man, your key may need to get canceled. Just straight up. Don't know if it's gonna happen. But for him, I don't know if you can really hold him accountable anymore, because I think you're passed that if that makes any sense. - I think it's safe to say, he's probably gonna get canceled because, okay, got let go by the way, there's, we remember him from being on Monday night football. We already know he's not getting that gig back. And I can say, and I can catch an eye with the NFL network, 'cause you know, the NFL network, owned by the NFL from Staking. So pretty much he doesn't have really any other options as far as to, you know, going I guess recoup some of that TV money. So more or less he's pretty much canceled. So if anything, he's gonna dip off, won't hear from for maybe a couple of years, then he might pop up on like, you know, you know, Fox, or someone of those other conservative stations or whatnot. But by and large, I believe he's rooting his canceled, 'cause I have to really just say, why I'd like to say, especially how those emails came out, it's like, oh, this is like deep rooted. And you were, you were in a comfortable safe space to air out some of your opinions that you truly felt. So yeah, I don't believe that accountability is, you know, possible because people tried to say he was young. The nigga was 48, bro, when he sent those emails and people tried to say he was young. And what, what are we talking about? The man was on ESPN saying, "Spider-Wire 2, Nana, the past 10 years, when he sent that email, a dog." Like we used to watch his QB camps. He was doing that, doing that time, dog. People swear he was young, itself. It makes no sense to me, dog. Go ahead, smiles. - Now I was gonna say, like, to be honest with you, kinda is just wrapping up and summing it up a little bit of like the conversation. I feel like the whole, just full transparency. We're primarily saying, I feel like in our conversation, if you say any disrespect at this time, or negative comments about the LGBTQ community, you will be canceled more likely. So I wanted to add another element of it and topic is talking about Dave Chappelle. Well, he's supposed to went on Netflix. Everybody from like, I feel like there's so much backlash about tearing it down and taking it down to protect and kinda defend that community. But when Dave Chappelle and everybody else talking and cracking jokes about black people, there's no issue. I feel like I don't know if that American community is not their full time yet, or their time has been passed. So I wanted to understand what has your thoughts about why do you feel like, or if you, you know, just from my own self, I guess, do you feel like that American community had that moment of steam? The same way the LGBTQ community has the sensitivity as now seen. - I guess to be quick, absolutely not, because I say you want to go in comments. We, the first comment we heard about the players, remember what not, I forget the guy's name, but no strap, everybody's kinda like, okay, 'cause they got those on Friday. - Bigly banned then. - Yep. - Don't boom up. - Yep. - I remember sitting out in those emails, I'm going to the other side of the room. - I know you ain't reading, but go ahead, bro. - Yeah, he definitely had, he definitely had it that didn't there. But now to be quick, definitely didn't have the same steam because they got those like what they're there Friday, pushed on Sunday. It wasn't until the, you know, those other comments came out about the LGBTQ and those other communities, you know, women and I mean, he named them to everybody. But yeah, that didn't really have a, once those comments came out, that's like, oh no, we gotta get them out of here. But he said all these old school, and I think one of our favorite of, one of our favorite podcasts, you know, "Aquire" by my Jones put down there. That's like some old school racism. - Bro, hey. - Hey, dude, bro. - Bro, bro, I, like, bro, being from Texas, I don't think anybody's ever heard anything about Rubberland. Just like, oh, okay, this is deeper than we thought. So when you look at it like that, yeah. But we all know that when it comes to, you know, really, you know, the black community, it's just like people said, why don't create this vehicle, you know, about our community for the longest, to where it's like, oh, we can, you know, educate him or he apologize, isn't that? But then we just, you know, LGBT, you know, Asian, nope, said it, gotta go. So just to wrap it up, that's how I look at a man, just, you know, when it comes, you know, other segments of communities for like, when they get talked about, that has more weight as opposed to, you know, comes to the black community and that'll be a deep of such. Yeah, but did the wave already happen though? That's what I'm asking. Did the wave already happen? Yes, did the wave of life people time sensitive love the sensitivity happened already? What's going on, y'all? If you haven't heard about anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. 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It probably reached this peak was that last summer, you know, once you know, George Floyd happened, you know, we were getting the multiple protests. And that's honestly when it was that it's, you know, peak when you know, it was the thing to do to come out and support, you know, of the black community, like, you know, black lives matter. And all that, you saw all these companies putting out, you know, commercials and support of the black community. So that's honestly when it was at this peak, but honestly before that it never really, it would get a little trash, you know, here and there, like a day or two, the last summer, I would say was kind of this peak, whereas now with some, you know, if that comes out, you just kind of like having with, you know, with them with John Groot, you know, people talked about it. And a lot of people want to feel make it, but like say, he coached two days later. It wasn't until the LGBT, you know, stuff came out and you know, about the woman and the other groups, towards that, oh, you said this too. Okay, yeah, we can't let him skate on this. So honestly, I feel like when it comes to the black community, it's like almost like society and you know, it kind of gets numb to it because we've heard like for the same song, same song, you know, different, well, like same track, different verse or whatever. I probably budgeted that same, but it is what it is. You know, but at the end of the day, it's like, oh, it says something about the black community, you'll see it on CD and so it's out of network where I start to talk for it, like a signal to maybe a couple of days, and then we wanted the next subject. As opposed to the, you know, LGBTQ community, you hear this, you know, now I'm stopped in this multiple days to where like say, it doesn't, you know, hold the same weight, you know, into that point, you know, we may hear the foundation bill from the viewpoint. Baby, the baby, you know, got a whole body apparently, which didn't know, but nobody would say anything. But you know, he's in some type of about the LGBTQ community, also an open arms, un, you know, unacceptable cancel. And it's a, I have to think about this idea. So you can kill a nigga, no problem, but you say you heard a gay presence feelings unacceptable. That's my take calling it. This guy, this guy, so about you, corn, do you feel like that waves already happened? Or still waiting because, you know, the reason why I brought up the base felping, cause like, I feel like you can talk crazy about African-American community. And people won't blink an eye, especially if it's impromptu, but if you make a joke about the LGBTQ community, critical, we can't say we already saw how they came for Kevin Hart and stuff already. He already apologized, multiple times, he's like, I apologize, I apologize, and they're like, dragging that man, supporting what do you think? Do you think that time was already came? And went and we just probably, you know, we recognized it, but we, but compared to what's going on now, we feel this is more, uh, is a bigger push. So I agree with it. It was the George Floyd time like last summer, that was the peak of like, yo, they defend the black people. I don't know about you. I have never seen that before in my lifetime. That was the first time I ever saw like, a collective groups come together and say, you know what? There's no excuse for that. I cannot defend that. Fuck it. I'm with you. I completely get it now. And we rode the wave, but the wave didn't went down now. Like we can call it for what it is. I think it's going back to normal, you know, you don't really see the black clouds map of something or we know the NBA took that away. NFL is still a guy that even know they still clearly got issues going on in the NFL. You know, they got that shit painted in zone. But yeah, like it was a a one year away. And then that was it after that. As far as today's appeals, um, stuff. Oh, Vic, to fact, check you, the baby kills someone in self defense. That's the day she killed the not that it in. So his body was in self defense. I didn't know that until I heard the breakfast club, but also let me know. Charlotte made said it could be wrong. I mean, throw that out there right now. It could be wrong. But with the day's you pale stuff, the reason I didn't come for day's you pale. And this is just my personal philosophy. Number one, I don't think he meant any harm when he made that joke. And Derek knows this and 10 matters to me. If you are purposely that I hear just trying to destroy people and just trying to, you know, tear them down 24 or seven, I get, I get why you want to cancel and I get why you want to keep it moving. They should pair a toe with the joke. And clearly, people from that community got a flip. Now, do I think he meant to offend them? Of course, not personally from all the things I've read about day she pale and all the D or you know, the comedy shows I've seen from him. I'm the thing that she does, one of those people to purposely try to go in another community. He was legit trying to tell the joke and they got offended. Now, they got offended, you know, that's something that day she pale in that community, you know, they got to have a shot, you know, it is what it is. Because at the end of the day, if you offend somebody, it is what it is, whether you make to do it, you're offended them. But if his intent wasn't to hurt you at all, or if his intent wasn't to take you down, what's the point of trying to cancel him if you know, damn well, he wasn't trying to take out like that. It was probably just a mistake because you're offended. So why are we trying to cancel him now, you know? It was a quaint shoot. I ain't really letting you. She vote be all the cool. Y'all right. No, shoot. I didn't make cancer before before making jokes and it's just going a little left. But I don't like Juan with his mic off. Juan for them, for them make wake up. My brother. I think I grew up though. I didn't honestly didn't know that was the all-time peak to be honest. I didn't know it was to peak and how it ended so quick, how it ended so I guess this change from like Black Lives Matter time to now LGBTQ community. Because I'm like, there's so much stuff. I'm going to say there's so much more happening in my opinion. What I mean is like things are getting past the legislation and everything. I'm like protect you know, and it should be like, going in the wrong is not like crazy. But I say something like, damn, I don't feel like there's really much change of them protests and awareness raising then like actual structural changes in society or like policies in place to protect African Americans especially against police brutality across the board. I'm saying he's placed it their own thing where they held their police department accountable local whatever. But huh. Yeah. I guess it was interesting to know that if I'm pure already came. All right. Pretty fun of thoughts. Go ahead. Yeah. So I can tell you about by far like someone was the peak because before that like I say, you hear bits and pieces but it was never full scale multiple networks, you know, blown up low coverage. It was never at that level. The only thing I can remember being similar to that is during the Traveller Martin case. That was probably like, you know, the other time where it kind of got work rose. But like most incidents of their society, you know, I had to say, but it was a fact, you know, it's a thing to do now. The thing to do by the say LGBTQ community, age and community, which is good. You know, there's been a difference between places with those communities. Like how people are is bring up. But why have we been unable to pass this anti-lenschen, you know, bill, you know, for the longest, you know, why has it been just, you know, legit legislation to where like people in this country feel like they had this little protection, like, you know, the Asian community, and they'll be the Q community fields with these legislation. that we put in the place. So that's really like how I look at it, man. It's just like I say, I feel like when it comes to, you know, to, you know, issues in the black community, it's kind of like a fad. It's just a thing, you know, people to talk about, you know, we get their ratings up. And like I say, you know, a wise man, you know, they once tell me, he's like, you know, you can't really look to these other segments of society to kind of care about your issues, you know, per se. I guess in terms when it comes to the black community, we're just going off the history. But that's kind of my take on the man, just that was different to peak. It was a fad. And like, this is the new quote unquote fad, you know, for people to do. And like, you know, what's popular now. So All right. I was going to say, so how much you find the I can move it, but just put it out there, you know, people don't fuck with black people. I say, that's it all the time. Like, this is going to be hard for you to get what you want if you black because at the end of the day, what we go through, they just don't see that's a big issue. And that's just how the game goes. Like I tell people all the time, once you kind of know how the game go, you kind of start getting mad at it and you just learn how to play the game. Like, you know, people don't rock with you. You got people who even if they know what's going on is wrong, they're not going to speak up. Yo, we see legislation get passed for all these other groups and all these other races, but I agree with it. It's a lot of things that don't get passed for us. Just like, you know, people don't like having this conversation, but sadly, with this fair and not a lot of bullshit that we go through is rooted in race and yo, it's going to take time to slowly try to dig out that shit from legislation from legislation shit to when shit, I ain't even want to I ain't even want to be that person, but somebody was talking about how when that white girl would miss it, that body would crazy by those on CNN and SMBC, Fox all that man, I don't do that shit for black people. If you know they don't do that shit for black people, if you get lost, the first thing they're going to say, yo, you show that ain't go out with their friends, you show it, so I see you show it, so I see like we know how that goes, but when she went missing the whole party, you're not looking for them. So, you know, it comes down from things just as simple as that to things just as, you know, pads in a anti-legit bill, pads in the bill where, you know, black people can't be discriminated because they have stupid, like we don't get those type of things and it takes forever to fight for those, but that Asian hate bill, which I agree, even if he passed passed quickly, the LGBTQ bill, it passed quickly. Like things like that passed really quickly compared to what we have IDs of what we need as always debate about it, or you have a typical person that happened so long ago, why can't I just move on? So, you get used to it, but you know, you know how this out here, you just got to thug you doing it, we got to make it through man. We get statues that we get, we get holidays or whatnot, a bunch of like symbolism or congress people wearing a dashi keys or whatnot, that's what we get. But also, black people got to do better at holding shit like that accountable to. Exactly. You got to get all this symbolic bullshit. I feel like both of us, we saw that coming from a mile away. We did it. What is fun? Well, no, no, with the kick of words, rock n' n' to shi-kees and shit, they asked on the floor, look, taking it to taking the knee, taking the knee and shit. Well, actually it was so fucking funny, dawg. It was so tough. The jet felt like I was in movies like you have got to be shitting me. You know what was crazy? Crazy part apparently, black people who worked in Congress told them it was okay. That's the kicker. That's the kicker. That's what gets deeper like these certain like people that they allow in Congress, and they allow up there like who are they getting? Yeah, but you know, let's be honest. We all can get into it like that, but I'm gonna be honest with you. Most black people who they allow in these type of spaces, they don't feel that confident to like standing ground. They're gonna be like, well, you know what I'm just the first one in there. I just want to make hopefully all our other people to come in here. I'm like, nah, man. No. Sacrifice, man. Now we're in sacrifice. Now saying that it's fair, but it's going to require some sacrifice. But yeah. Yeah, as we close it out, I'll say, um, cancel culture. Y'all both already know this. I'd be canceled if I was in this girl in this area. Like I was throwing my homeboy. See, as you guys see that. We made so many racist jokes back and forth. I'm not gonna lie. I told him. I'm eating some taco eating like Mexican niggas. He told me I'm only being official if I want if we want to kill a water buffalo. You know what I mean? And we laughed. It was cool. But I think it is very sensitive to time right now and it's understandable to like legal cons. It was always we all said honestly. When I disagree with the sensitivity in a sense, but we're like, we didn't know. I think I didn't know the time was already over for black people for your sensitivity. That window closed. You know, niggas, we're all with that goddamn dashi. He just did get no none past legislation. We just took that shit. God, we'll call that all right. We out there. So thank you for choosing. Thank you for your popular piece. We just took the condo shit and that was it. We out.