Can Chelsea rock champions Arsenal? Plus Everton’s disastrous window

Totally football show? It's the scenic Thursday one. Here's what's coming up. Today, deadline day. You can't get mentality in the transfer market, but you can get mental. We run up Tuesday's news. Enzo Fernandez to Man City was this check of summer transfer, a dramatic last-minute reversal involving following Balagum, that's new, and other toffee nose, and Spurs.M for Mudry. Then we look ahead to match day three. Ever to Man United, Forest Spurs, Arsenal Chelsea, Chaos Control, and we can't call them. It's a totally football show. Thursday, the third of September, it's brand new totally football show for you. And here at the studio, we've got Nick Miller for a star. Hi, Nick. Good to see you. Good to see you too. Natalie Jenner of Sketchports. Well, hello. Hi, Natalie. Lovely to see you too. Great to see you, James. And welcome back, Julian Laurent. Thank you, James. It's really, I'm super happy to be back. He's great to be back. I mean, you're our deadline day signing. Yeah, exactly. Have you been very happy? Very good and new. Do you have a good walk-up? All of you? Yeah. We were all there. Yeah. It was good. It was amazing. It was great. It was amazing. Nick, since the walk-up, you went off to Turkey for a piece involving most salar and camels. I did, yeah. I went to Trabson for his first home game, first start for Trabson Sport, and rounded a corner on the stadium, and there was a chap there with a camel to welcome Salar in the most appropriate, not culturally insensitive way. Natalie, we saw a lot of you during the World Cup, never enough, I feel. But what have you been up to since? Got a lot. Last weekend I was at Sutherland for Sutherland Fulham. The week before I was at Mancita, did Karabakhub, did championship. And you got strong thoughts on Fulham, in particular, haven't you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll get into those because we're going to have a look through the match, say, three fixtures, of course. Before we do that, though, how about we just catch up a little bit on how the transfer market ended on Tuesday night. So it was by popular consent, the craziest deadline day ever. There was the huge tree for Enzo Fernandez. There was that dramatic plot twist with Fulham Balagan. There was rival private jets joling over in European airspace. Well, it's only on the tarmac, ready to go, and one way. But they were ready for a death fight. One way and the other states, that's the thing. Crazy. My list was for Malik Fafano for Leon. Let's begin, though, with Enzo Fernandez. Because Nick, you wrote a piece about this. So upset were you? Live it. Absolutely. Live it, though. Off you go, then. It just seems like everyone knew that this was going to happen from, like, the most third of April, you mentioned. Pretty much, yeah, which is when he, Fernandez was suspended by Chelsea for saying off-color things about potentially going to Real Madrid. And then, you know, from pretty much when Roderie left it seemed, left Manchester City, it seemed inevitable that he was going to go there. And it just, it was just all this kind of negotiating and posturing and various other things that meant that it only happened in the last minute, which kind of scuppered various things for other people. Well, indeed, and for themselves, but it's Chelsea having known since the third of April they needed to replace him. Ended up doing the deal after the transfer of mint market had closed and couldn't get a replacement as a result. Interesting. Yeah, the whole Lameen Camaro thing, tied up with Balaghan and it was all very complicated. Which, to a point, was not, it was out of Chelsea's control, but if they hadn't, they've left it to that lake, then, you know. Yeah, you had that deadline, didn't they? Of the Friday, 10 days before saying like, if you don't offer 120 by night, it's over, it's finished. And we all knew this was never going to happen. I mean, that's obviously not a deadline. That's going to help them next time they say, because the deadline, honest. Absolutely, yeah. Tell us, then, Jules, what happened with following Balaghan? So Monaco needed to sell. Ideally, they were not as much in need of cash than Lyon, for example, for Final, whom that was a must sell. But they could do with one more sell this summer. They did well, they sold well, like I clearly used to PSG. But it was clearly that one of Balaghan and Camaro was the next one and then that would have been the perfect window in terms of bringing money in, basically. And Balaghan, they were happy to let him go. He wanted to come back to England and the Premier League. Camaro, they thought he's 22, he's the best player, more than Balaghan, more important, even. They wanted to keep him, ideally, really. So Chelsea had been knocking at the door all summer. And they've always said no. And for Balaghan, once they found an agreement with Everton, therefore, this is perfect. He's going to go to Everton. We get that money and we have his wages off the wedge bill and we can keep Camaro build the team around him. Even if he's just for a season, that's fine. Camaro was a little bit. Not disappointed because I think he was happy to stay, but he's spoken to a few people, I think, around Chelsea. He was kind of excited with the idea of maybe going to Chelsea. But it was Balaghan to Everton. And until 7 p.m., it was all going according to plans. And then Everton said, "Hang on, there's a problem with Balaghan's medical." Right. Monaco said, "There's no problem with Balaghan's fitness." Balaghan said, "There's no problem with my fitness, my needs, my thighs, nothing." But that kind of set back that deal for a little bit. And then Monaco panicked and said, "What happens if Balaghan doesn't go to Everton? We still need something." So they called Chelsea or Chelsea called them and said, "Hey, what about Camaro to us?" So suddenly Camaro was back on. Camaro got excited. Chabi Alonzo called Camaro. Camaro was like, "Yeah, this is for me. I want that move." And then Balaghan changed his mind. Because Everton said, "Actually, you're right. There was nothing wrong with him. We ready to sign. We send you the paperwork." And then his Balaghan who said, "So at that point, Monica said, "Okay, so we're not selling Camaro to Chelsea." So Balaghan goes to Finch Farm. He's already there. Oh, he's already there. He was on Liverpool. And when, basically, when Everton went back to Monica and said, "Actually, it's all good for Balaghan. We do this deal. There's nothing wrong with him." Then Monaco called Chelsea and said, "Sorry, guys, the Camaro did is not going to happen, because we don't need to sell him anymore." But Balaghan then changes his mind. Why? Why? He said, which, in a way, I'm not sure if I buy completely, but I said, I don't like what Everton did here. They didn't believe me. They didn't treat me well. They thought I was injured. I was telling them, there was no injury. There was no problem with me. And yet, they still doubted me. And I don't want to go there. Yeah, the sporting director told the BBC apparently that he wasn't comfortable after everything that happened in the way that Everton dealt with the situation. Was the suggestion that Everton were trying to chip a bit of the price? Yeah, really go see it maybe a little bit. Which is bad for them, because I think Everton had a terrible window, mostly because of that, too. So I'm not sure I really understand what they were playing. I can understand chassis frustration, for sure. Monaco is saying, we played our hands. One of them was going to go. He should have been Balaghan. And because everything was agreed with Balaghan, then Camaro is never going to move. All right, well, we'll talk about what that means for Everton. And indeed, some of the other big deals that went through at the end, the Malik for Final Business. And they're amazing. We're lovely to have someone fly a private jet in just to pick you up. But have two rival clubs there with their jets parked on the tarmac, saying, join us. Well, a thrill for him, something. They haven't quite regularly. Not two, but yeah, that's Clubs and Private jet for you to come over. Yeah, two have two, because one is trying to hijack the deal of the other is great. Almost literally. Would it be great if they were actually hijacked? Sunderland's, I mean, obviously not, that's legal. We'll get into anyway, some of the details later on. But when the dust had settled, I read that Premier League Clubs had broken the summer spending record for a second, straight year. 3.46 billion or figures there about. To put that in perspective, that is more than the other top five leagues put together. Italy, Spain, Germany and France, incredible. The bigger spenders from the Premier League were Man City, who spent 458 millions worth of cash, but they did recoup quite a lot in sales. Oh, they also got Illuminum Jai. That was a from Everton, who've now been left with one striker until January. And that striker is, well, it's yeah, no worry. Yeah, 18 senior outfield players. So one injury. That's what they've got. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Tim Spears wrote a lovely piece on the athletic ranking all 155 transfers. He said that the best. Well, in third place, he said he had Sangri, who's been great, no? Yes, maybe my number one to be fair. Woody, yeah, yeah, maybe. Bruno G to Arsenal, he's got in second place, would he be your number one? When you talk about you can't buy mentality, maybe you can. Yeah, maybe you can, interesting. Maybe he's just shopping the wrong places, Spurs. He puts top as Emmy Martinez. What do you think about that, Nick Miller? Yeah, I mean, he's better than what Chelsea already had. Okay. People, he does have a horrible error in him every now and then. People can do things to kind of forget it a little bit. Yes, but he also steps up in big games. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. He's definitely better than the previous league. Not necessarily the best player, but the best fit and the best move in terms of what they were what were they are needing and the difference it makes to the side. And the price, because it's really cheap. The price was the bottom. He's the bottom of his list, the worst transfers. He's got, well, the very worst one, a manual omega, omega. Omega, omega. Chelsea 21 million, he says. Yeah, like it's a bit harsh, because he was really good on the, if you just look at the footballer on the pitch. What kind of player is he just? He's on number nine, with pace that is good technically, dutch. So with that kind of formation, if you want. Of the pitch, he's had so many controversies, Astralisbois has really one kind of controversies. He once told us Astralisbo did really well, especially on the Lea Mosinio, with him too, by the way, including against top clubs. And there was a couple of games where he was not involved and they lost, I think, to PhD and to Marseille or something like that. And after the game that he was back on and they won, he basically came in and said, "Well, I was in there against PhD and Marseille." So, basically, they lost because I was in there. That kind of very Dutch attitude of "I am the best here." He wears sunglasses even at night time. He has, you know, all the blinks and everything. I think it could be a great guy to have in the dressing room and also a bit of a toxic guy to have in the dressing room. So, I think bottom is a bit harsh. And again, we haven't seen him in my pitch yet. He might be great for them, I don't know. He's still recovering from an injury. But I can also see where the team is coming from anyway. Down there anyway, he also has Michaela Mudric, which is one of the most perplexing deals. And we will get onto that when we talk about Tottenham Hotspur loan deal. That is, with a 75 million pound option to buy, as Tim says, if they exercise that option at the end of the season, he will quit journalism and become a welder. Become a welder, so there's going to be a lot of. We need a lot of Woodrick fans out there. Arguably, we need welders more than we need journalists. What's a welder? When you melt metal to fuse things together. You fuse things with, you know, a blowtorch and that, you weld them together again. Okay, anyway. Yeah, good for him. Very specifically. Gladdens. All right. Well, let's see. Like I say, a lot of people are going to be watching Michaela Mudric stats with interest from now on, not least Tim himself. Let's get on anyway to the weekend football. Oh, match day three, you've got four teams on maximum points. They are Man City, Arsenal, Hull and Chelsea. Two of those four face off on Sunday and they are Arsenal and Chelsea. Woof. What a fixture. This looks set to be. Holloway Road against Kings Road, Control against no control whatsoever. What do you think? Are you eyeing Chelsea as potentially a team that could against Arsenal? Yes. Yes. Why not, Lee? Yes, because they've been exciting. And because they show they can score goals. They have a lot of quality up front, but they need to address a few things. And this is why this fixture is so intriguing. Because Arsenal, it's still, again, very, very early in the season. But, you know, Arsenal already showed the exciting Arsenal. And the one new to the Arsenal, let's just control this thing. And, you know, they can play in very different ways, especially after the weight of the Premier League being done off their shoulders. But with Chelsea's vulnerability in defense, I mean, we're talking about a team like Arsenal who can absolutely take advantage of that and control that game. So I'm interested to see how much chaos Chelsea can create around such a controlled team like Arsenal. Right. And we're also looking forward to seeing Chelsea's front three in action, again, no. They look, like, incredibly well-suited each other all already. I mean, when people of us, we did something about the best signing of the summer. I felt quite stupid suggesting Morgan Rogers, because it's kind of 117 million pounds. It's not exactly the most original take. But just because of how well those three forwards have fused together already, it just feels like the perfect signing. In the system that I lost so much to play, yeah, it is perfect. So the question is at the other end for Chelsea. Is that something you see Chevrolet Lanzos sorting out? I mean, do you count with their results so far? Do you count Chelsea's potential title contenders this season? I think they will push us north to a certain extent. And I've got them finished second in kind of really early predictions of the season, because I think at some point he should get them more balanced. Chevrolet Lanzos, I think they're still quite new. There's new players. There's a different system. There's a lot of things to understand. Like, Hato is now a left wingback, for example, Rogers would have to defend a bit more. He would understand that. I think as the season progresses, I think. And you have time to train? Yeah, and you have no European competition. So it's one game a week. So I think they will get there. They will finish top four. And I think the pro, yeah, for me, they will be the closest. However, some of the stuff that we've seen, but we saw a Bayaleva Queen, which I've been on so in terms of its open coming in. Everybody's welcome here. Especially your position, you know, for Brighton to create so much. In a game that, okay, Chelsea ended up winning. But as time from which to go, they have the board that merged. So many passes and Chelsea being so passive at times, I thought was a little bit worrying too. Yeah, we've fallen the way. Yeah. And the way for Chelsea. And the possession thing is very intriguing. Because it makes you think of the bigger picture. Are, can, is it sustainable for a team to really compete up until the final rounds for the Premier League, having not a lot of possession? Yes, yes. Yes, Lester was the last team that did it. Okay. We went through the Guardiola era where it was, it was a thing. And recently, Arsenal, they were the fourth team in terms of possession last season. So it wasn't their most important asset. So maybe it can be interesting, you know, how, how can they, you know, dominate games without, because when I saw the 26% against Brighton, I was surprised because it didn't look like 26%. I think because they are so dangerous on the ball, it just looks exciting, doesn't look passive all the time. But as you said, it looks passive at times. Arsenal, we're going to have a lot of the ball on Sunday. I would expect so, yeah. For 30, it's the Super Sunday game. Looking forward to that. We'll be recording our weekend roundup. You can join us live on the YouTube if you fancy. But that will be straight after events at the Emirates. What else is happening in match day three? Well, the round starts on Friday evening with IBSW Liverpool to next time to talk about the 1230 game on Saturday's Newcastle Bournemouth. Jules is hot for that one. The three o'clock games of the Saturday are Brentford, Sunderland, Forest Spurs, Man City commentary, full and palace, and Brighton Leeds. And then at 530, it's howl looking to continue their perfect start at home to Aston Villa. Whew. Game of contrast, that one. Sunday, Everton Man United at two before the clash at the Emirates. Natalie, you're going to Everton Man United for Skate Sports. You're jikingson, yes. Yeah, enjoy the donuts. Okay, thank you. Is it your first time? No, no, no, I've been there. Yeah, but I haven't had the donuts. Yeah, because well, when you're doing life TV, you don't want your. You know one of my food is eating in stadiums. I never eat a stadiums. And in full press, yeah, in press launches and press boxes. We have great food in here. Yeah, it's exactly. But I don't touch the food. And everybody says, "Why are you not eating us like I can't?" Because I'm too scared having something between you two or stuff like that. You could eat and flow. I know you could flow as bad. I'm not flossing. It's not just the thing you could get stuff done. Yeah, everything. They never do that. They never do that. But yeah. No, it's absolutely true. I'm with Natalie on not touching the donuts. No, but yeah, but I'm not as extreme. I really like food. Yeah, and the toffee treat is the branded doughnut. There's a sponsored thing. Everything got into a little bit of trouble because they. They put out a tweet involving donuts to kind of hint at the fact that Jack Creelish was returning. But this was around about the time that they weren't getting fuller in Balagun and everybody else was Charleston. And everyone else, he said no. Well, I had said no to them. And Xerx, say for example, and then Jai had left as well. So I think there was some quite set evidence supporters at the fact that they now got 18 senior players. One center forward. And I think one fallback. Yeah, right back is a position they want to strengthen as well. Right. It didn't happen. Even the player, they kept ultimately in Harrison Armstrong. They managed to upset the fans. Because in the end, the board intervened and he didn't go because of the backlash. But I am very intrigued to see how the atmosphere will be and how fans will manifest their like. Their displeasure. Yes, with the transfer. Which is completely justified. Right. If David Moe is tempted to walk away. I really do. I think he had been vocal all summer long. Since the first day of their precision of like, we need more players. We need better players. You can build on what you did last season because I think they had a good season for the first year in the new stadium. So I'd say that they even know over performance with what they had. Yeah. And I think with this crazy window where everybody is strengthened. Including the three promising side that went mad on their spending and everything. And then you've got Everton who are weaker than they were like a month ago even. Right. And you think like, how is that even possible? And Eddie Howe left Newcastle because he got to a point where he had enough of losing his best friend. And having to kind of rebuild all the time. And if you're David Moe, you're like, I'm I'm I'm I'm too old for this now. Like what are you doing? Okay. Man United their opponents on a day in which they would love to have a good performance. But Man United how impressed have you been with their start to the season with not so much the defeat to hull. How impressed were you with their performance? Because it's which last weekend. Well, I know there were positives. But from a foreign perspective. Yes. I feel like everything around Man United is is too much for the good and the bad. So if they have a terrible performance, it's the tragedy. If they have a good performance, oh my god, they're back. All right. What are they? Are they back or is it tragic? Well, it's probably something in between. And we have to wait and see. And that's my point with Man United. And I know it's not the most exciting one. But. it is the truth because they have shown, they showed a lot of energy and positives in their performance against tipswitch, but at the same time, they relied on Bruno Fernandes again, they had all their good performers. Don't get me wrong, they are positive signs with Marcus Rash for the midfield was much better than it was against whole city, but you know, you still have the problems. Yeah, especially after the transfer window, the fact that they didn't address the left-back position makes no sense to me really. And also gambling quite a lot on signing the kind of 24/25 version of Carlos Belabor rather than the one who was pretty rubbish last season. Wasn't even like a regular in Bryan's first team back in the season. Yeah, we don't know, which, well, I don't even know if he's going to play because he had an injury during the pre-season, so Carrick said something about two or three weeks, so I think he's not going to be fit for this one, I'm not sure. But yeah, he, at his prime, he was incredibly talented and he is an asset, but we don't really know how he's going to be. The first time against tipswitch was not very good, the second half merged back to him, again, against the team that he's a promoted team that he's not that great either. I think we'd wait a bit. They got quite lucky with the goal that maybe shouldn't have been a goal and the Hamburg. This is a much bigger test for them, I think than any of the first two games. Well, ever since, like a doughnut, get battered. We'll find out. What else is happening? Man's city are up against Coventry. There's a Fernandez reuniting with Moretska for that British record 125 million. Is he worth that? Is anybody? Yeah, he's worth it to city. But it's, it's very intriguing how, I mean, he can add something very different to that midfield. What he had? He's a really good box to box. He developed really well in that role under Mariska and Mariska was a box to box midfield. The midfitter back in his day. But like if you have Elio Tenderson and you have Inzo Fernandez and you have Nico O'Reilly or Markei playing doing this pairing with Elio Tenderson, where is Cherke? I'm just wondering how this can affect their formation with Cherke. Of course, we're talking about a full season with European football and there's going to be rotation, but he brings a variety to this and he breaks control as well to suit his midfield. He's really good in setting the pace and keeping the ball. So it's very interesting what, like the alternative that Mariska has now to set up his team. Okay, and what about Eleman Jai? I think he's a backup to Ducu of one of the two wingers or certainly now they are four wingers with Alan and I also sign from Richard who is, I don't think he's a world class player. He's a bit older already. I don't think he will ever be a world class player. You know exactly what you're going to get. He works hard defensively. He is good going forward. So it's a menu. Alan and Jai and Ducu and you've got four for two positions. And I agree with that. Actually, in the sense that now you've probably have the best quality in the league level with Arsenal. Potentially that's a lot of options. It's a lot of different profiles from Mariska where he will have to find the right formula and whether that's a bit of rotation, whether that's a set 11 and system information. But it will have to click because I don't think Enzo can play a double pivot. He could not with KC though. He certainly cannot do that with any Anderson. So you need maybe bloody with any Anderson or even in O'Reilly, but O'Reilly is not a defensive midfielder either. So where do you play Cherokee or for them and you two wingers? And then suddenly you look at all those different things that Mariska can do and you think, well, maybe he will struggle to find the best 11 here. And that could be a problem for them. They could almost have too much talent in a way and too many options. But on a positive, it gives Bojji time to develop because he's a young player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ron Cherokee has been the star so far. The turn system game week one and the two girls last time out. He's a shy, unassuming type. Is this going to be his season? I was convinced at the start of the thing that he would be his and then I see him on the bench in the competition and I'm like, really? And I know for them had the whole summer free, obviously. So maybe he was more ready physically. But then I see for them against also in the commission being bad and I think, okay, this team is Cherokee's team. There's no doubt. And then for them starts again against Bournemouth at the edge and Cherokee's on the bench. And Cherokee is not too happy to be on the bench because I think he thinks like me. I'm like, why am I not playing here? Definitely. It is like that. Comes on and obviously it's changed. It wins the game for City in a way. So then he is expected to start on Friday against Palestine. Palestine is not sure the day is leading into that game. And again, he's a bit what's going to happen here. He starts and I think maybe in his mind, or certainly from what I was told was that he was so excited almost to get that starting spot on Friday night that he put a bit of pressure on him for that first half. And he was not good. He was not a good first half. But what I love about Ryan Cherokee and I think we all do is I have time. He knows Maurice guys thinking I'm going to take you off. And he goes obviously to see him and say, yeah, give me five minutes. I'll show you. That's what he needed five minutes because that great goal that only him in the league, I think, in school. Yeah. And then after that, the momentum is there. So I expect him to start the game at the weekend in the tent. I don't really mind where for the needs. If he's on the bench or white, but Cherokee needs to play as a tent for this team. And I think he will make things happen for them. Okay. Nick likes Coventry shirt. I'd love Coventry shirt. Yeah. The indispensable preseason kit rankings. They're a number one. Okay. That was there. They're away for this game. They aren't there. Yeah. If they could arrange it for them to wear their home shirt, that would be great. But I don't have to do understand. But I haven't watched the Pep Guardiola documentary. There's a bit about it with Cherokee in that way. He's having his medical. And he's got shoe laces untied. And they were like, can you please tie your shoe laces? And he was like, no, no, no, I'm not doing that. And then the guy doing the medical said, look, if you fall over and break your leg during this medical, I'm going to get sacked. So it's like, I don't know. He eventually did it. It was just, I thought it was just really funny. He trains wheel laces and done. And the new boots make it like, you don't really, it's still tight enough, right? Yeah. You're not going to lose your boot if you shoot without the laces. But this is the style. Crazy. The part on Cherokee in that documentary, all of it, not just the medical, but even before that one city kind of revealed how they were thinking about before signing him. It's just fascinating because he had that reputation. Yeah. And I think he showed that despite being a very different character to a lot of the players, he's still a special football. That reputation, as you say. Well, we'll see how it pans out. It certainly looks like an arduous afternoon for Coventry against Manchester City. As for the rest of the weekend's features, I say, the games that people have picked out as being a particular interest. Nick, for example, you're all up in that Ipswich Liverpool, Ipswich, who were the second highest net spenders. To the second T-Lopos, the net spec classic. Oh, good lord. Net spec classic. I spent a total of about 195 million pounds net of just under 180, I think 14 players. I just find it quite interesting how different they were to the last time in the Premier League. Last time they spent a lot of money. It was about 150 million pounds, but it was all on players who were from English clubs, most of them were English. And now it's kind of a much more kind of imaginative, I suppose. And they've signed a bunch of really interesting players. It might not eventually be doing a good, but they look pretty good against Manchester United, got a bit of, as we said, got a bit unlucky with that goal. They went ahead. And then there's Liverpool, who, you know, everyone seems very kind of pessimistic about them, and they haven't yet lost a game. They're drawn both of them too, too. But if it doesn't, doesn't start working pretty soon, then you know, people are going to start getting twitchy and balancing. You're inclined to give Ereola the benefit of the doubt because of what he achieved at Bournemouth, and also because he had a slow start there as well. But people point to structural issues. I mean, there would have been disgusted at length in the Liverpool squad. How much impact does the arrival of Bradley Bakola? How should I pronounce that properly? Bradley. I mean, it depends if you want to say the Bradley, as in like in Bradley, in English or American culture, or like we do in France or like Bradley. But the Bakola? Bakola? Bakola? Yeah. BB-29. Couldn't be BB-29. I will do. Why not? That's, you know, that's right there. He, I say, that's his number, that's his initials, you know, BB-1. All right, G-L-1. What do you think? I love this deal. I mean, I think they've overpaid it. I love this deal as a PSG fan. So we will miss him for sure. But I can see why being part of the best team in in the world. Two seasons in a row. And not having maybe the road that he would have loved to. You were the best team in the world, though, G-L-1. You lost the final of the club World Cup, which is specifically designed to, to Europe is not the world. We gave it to Chelsea, that one, nobody cared to be fair, but everybody's forgotten about that competition, you know, even Donald Trump himself. But, but, you know, that's about, that's about championship winner, you know, Bradley Bakola, BB-29. But BB-29, I think, and I can, I can understand why BB-29 was not happy because I think he wanted to play a bit more. And certainly people who say he was a sub, it's not really true. There was a lot of freedom within that front four. Graz Kelly had to wait them better and him. And yet, okay, he was maybe not from the start in Champions League Final or semi-final called the finals, but he was heavily involved in everything they did in a big part. I don't think, I don't think they win those Champions League without him in the squad anyway, really. Okay. So back and see why he wanted a bigger role, a key role in a bigger club. And that's why he got. I think there's a lot of pressure on him massively because of the price, because of this kind of new responsibility of you will have to be the main guy I live a pool. And I don't think that's easy. The summer where Mossara had left too. So, I hope he works. He's not fit yet, not much fit because he had a precedent where he was waiting for the deal to happen, for the move to to happen. So, you will need to know it. a bit of time to build that but there's a great player there and if things click for him and for the team then I think he can only be a success for the. I can't see him flopping really. Let's make a similar occasion for McCallum Mudrick then. Great player there if it clicks. Because people have raised eyebrows at this move but he did work with Dezerby previously, with great success at Shaktar Donetsk. So is that why Spurs and could it? I mean I guess it was also a sort of fairly easy thing for them to deal for them to do just so they needed a wing or a light in the transfer. This guy who hasn't played for two years is it? Yeah. Which is. Didn't do very much before that either. Didn't do a huge amount before that. A lot of hype over the transfer at the time, Chelsea kind of because Arsenal didn't know I think. I got cross-eyed instead and I spoke to a lot of Arsenal fans at the time who were devastated. It was this kind of almost mass psychosis that were just like we need this guy. We can't let this guy slip there, I think it's a nice high-truss hard and they won the league. Everyone was wrong about Mudrick by then. Maybe they're wrong about him this time. Is there a redemption arc in Prosperity here Natalie? Why not? Why not? Yeah I like to be a positive person James, so you know why not. Are there evidence, are there recent evidence of that? No. Can we trust that 100%? No, but you know it's football. Okay. Yeah. When you see he doesn't score many goals at Chelsea, I think it was five in the league. But back in the day, yeah, back at Shaqta, but even at Chelsea some of those goals are quite special in the sense that he's pace with the board. Yeah. You know some players like have a lot of pace but it's just you push like another matriolary for example. You push the ball and you run. You don't actually dribble past people and using that space other than in a way of like being a chosen ball footballer basically. He's a bit different on that and I know Chelsea didn't work out for him for whatever reason and then obviously the band but but maybe maybe the Derby who is crazy enough to be able or maybe to even put this one out of the bag and say like bring Mudrick back to the form that we saw Shaqta. Right. If you get him right. And again, I think there's there's nothing to lose for spurs. Yeah. If he doesn't work out, you send him back. Except football matches of course, which the thing at a worrying rate so far. You see a lot of those stories of players who are reunited with certain managers that can take the best out of them and apparently Derby really likes him. They have they have a really good relationship since Shaqta and I think it's fair to say that Mudrick needs a win. Derby needs a win. They kind of need to take the best out of each other. So How long before he can play though and play regularly and suppose only have a game a week. So it's a bit like. Right. But we saw and I know it's different and Pogba is older and Pogba was injury prone and everything you want. But Pogba after the band really struggled just to get too much fit and he was fit but not much fit to play at this kind of level. So as you mentioned, spurs needing a win. They're away at nodding on Forrest Nick this weekend. They've had a miserable time going to the city ground of late spurs. Forrest, well, yeah, I mean sometimes. Forrest have won the last four meetings. Yeah. With spurs there. So yeah. Yeah. Forrest have been quite good against Liverpool, quite bad. The previous weekend gets leads signed Leanderlap who was quite low down on Tim Spears's transfer. Well, I wonder why. Maybe the price. Let me think. The price and the the stat that he's got more yellow cards and goals in his professional career is a. But Chelsea. That's the thing. Yeah. Go to Chelsea. Yeah. I mean, again, it's similar to the Blober thing. Forrest are hoping that they're signing their previous season's version of Leanderlap rather than success. Well, it could be a good fit. I agree with Nick though on the price is silly. How much was the price? 50 million. How can a player get more value? Yes. And his price increases after the season that he had with more yellows than gold. But the way out with things to be a Forrest apologist here, the kind of price that he went to Chelsea for was slightly false because it was a release clause. Yeah, yeah. So, but it's still. Is he a 50 million band player? No, probably not. But he is. He does. I think the theory is that he's a kind of slightly younger, more mobile version of Chris Woods. Yeah. Yeah. Which and there is a certain amount of logic to it. He doesn't. I mean, he's stupid as it might sound. He doesn't even necessarily need to score that many goals. He just kind of facilitate the other. Right. Which he did last weekend. Yeah. Which he did, which he did last weekend with the quick throw. And, you know, obviously, Morgan, he was white scored a load of goals at the end of last season from a sort of similar position. Dan and Doye looks much more comfortable. We kind of in one of those 10 roles rather than out wide. So, yeah, even if the lapse continues to pick up more yellow cards than goals, then he might be some kind of success. All right. And so, Forrest, against Spurs who are, of course, without any points or any goals scored. So far this season, Newcastle Bournemouth. Yeah. First of all, can you tell us about Matthias Fernandes Pardo, who Newcastle signed while shipping Nick Vultemardy off to Turing's joint? Yeah. Juventus. Yeah. 60 million euros. What's that? That's 50 million pounds. 51. Yeah. 51. Yeah. With that bonus. From Lille. Yeah. What are they getting? I think it's a small signing. I think they've overpaid a little bit maybe because Lille didn't want to sell. That was not part of the summer plans for Lille, which was Boatty, the main one really. The annual big sale of the summer. You know, we had Euro. And we had Jakite, for example, and others. Then we had Boatty. So, the idea was to keep Fernandes Pardo for another year. And then he would be the big sale the following summer. But he really wanted to move. He kind of refused to play. A friendly. They don't want to train. He pretended. Yeah. So I guess two four. They're running for Newcastle to get a player. No, but I think, yes and no. I can see, you know, where he really wants to move. He felt it was the right time for him to move. Although Lille and the Champions League, for example, he would have had Champions League football. He would have been a guaranteed starter for them, but anyway. But it's a small signing because I think he fits so perfectly what he has lost football, philosophy is. Right. He has that incredible pace. He can play out wide, but now they moved him at Lille in the nine where I think he could have a bit of a those kind of wingers who became number nine because he's smart. His runs are good. He's good technically. He was a prodigy in Belgium when he was younger. Went to the Lille Academy. He didn't really find his place there. Went back to Belgium to play. Then Lille bought him back. And then they bought him back for 12 million euros and sold him for 60. So it's one of those again great things. But for me, he fits perfectly. And when you think about yes, Lille and you start off football and you've got Elanga and Wissa and Ursula and Fernandes Pardo and Barnes, it's just all and Nico Gonzalez in the quarterback world of like, hey, you ready to run? I'm going to throw the ball at you. It's perfect. And I'm not a Nico fan and I think he likes mobility for when they don't have the ball. Right. But in possession in the games where they can use all-dying transition, I think they would be perfect. And that's why I like to lot the transfer windows because they lost a lot. But they gained great talent too. Yes, Lille's philosophy. Very briefly, how would you define it? Red boot football, overlapping full bags, a lot of verticality transitions. They would struggle in games where they have 60% of the ball when they play against the low block at her city or those kind of teams. That's another, that's for him to work out what to do. But when they have space like I suppose, like against Liverpool, even at home. And I expect in this game too, although this is a German derby and I think Marco Roser will have a plan probably against that. Marco Roser is also a Red Bull guy to be fair. So this should be fun. That's why I picked this game. Yeah, I think this is great to watch. And if you know, Nico, so I think you should be excited. Anything else about this game that excites you, Joe? I want to see Bournemouth. I'm not too sure about Bournemouth. But what I like about Bournemouth is the stability there because apart from Antonio Silva, the rest is very much the same team. In Marco Roser, you get a guy that has a lot of similarities with Ruala and I think this should work. But I was a little bit underwhelmed by why I saw in the first two games. So for me, this is a big game for them to go to Saint-Germain's spot. Keep conceding like goals as well. Which it's only two games, but you know, if they're considered after 84 minutes and then 91 in two games, so could be a theme. They brought in Michelin de Gregorio from. Yeah, yeah. Which was surprising. I was a bit confused with that transfer because I understand they want European experience maybe. But at the same time, I didn't really see Petrovic as one of the weak links of the team. Actually, the previous game against Everton, he made a few really good saves. He's a solid goalkeeper, but I was surprised with that. De Gregorio had a bit of a stinker of a season last time. Especially the second half of this season, right? Yeah. Let's get on some of the other fixtures coming up and they're not all Premier League and the British game next. You season of WSL begins on Friday night, Nick. Yes. Well, some people are going to be locked into. Is it switch Liverpool's office? It's switch Liverpool. Thank you so much. You've got London City Lion and S's against Manchester United in WSL. London City Lion, this is one of the big spenders, of course, looking to disrupt the big three in WSL. Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, the Champions. Champions, Man City, face Birmingham City on Sunday. Chelsea are up against Aston Villa on Saturday. and you expanded WSL up to 14 teams now. - I'm so intrigued to watch Putte just play here. - You're right. - You're a ballon door in England. I hope people go and watch her everywhere on TV in the stadium. You don't even ballon door, even in the Premier League men Premier League. - Ballon door. - So I really hope people make the most of Exa Putte as well as she's here because she's wonderful. - She's with the London City Lionesses along with seven other new players, Michelle Cain continues to back that ambitious project. We'll see how that gets underway on Friday evening. Now, Nick, as you mentioned, it's Ibswitch Liverpool, which we've already discussed on Friday night in the Premier League, games which we haven't touched on yet include Harlaston Villa, Brighton Leeds, Brentford, Sunderland and Fullham Crystal Palace. Natalie's here to say worrying things. (laughing) - Put 'em fans, get ready. - About the cottages. How bad do you think it's gonna get, Natalie? - No, I was feeling very positive about them after the first game, after the Chelsea game. I think everyone was surprised in a way because it's such a different style of play that Arbeloa wants to implement. But then I came into the Fullham Sunderland game 'cause I covered that match thinking, "Oh my God, I want to see all this excitement." And even pre-match I was asking Arbeloa about, you know, how risky is, how do you calculate the risks with your brand of football? There were no risks, okay? No, it was all very flat lacking, energy lacking ideas. I could save Josh King because he was the player trying to create different things. And now Fullham, they have two losses in the first two games, Crystal Palace is the same and they both have new managers. But with Fullham, especially if you're trying to implement such a specific demanding style of football, you need the results because otherwise, players won't buy into it and fans will be very suspicious about it. They had Marcos Silva for so long and they knew what to expect from Fullham with Marcos Silva. So it is a big game for both teams, even though it's just the third game. I think due to the circumstances, it's very important for both teams. - Portant for both managers? Is it already whoever loses this could be teaching towards the brand? - Beyond the pressure for sure. - Yeah, Fullham has also lost half of their goals from last season, Royal Humanism, Harry Wilson, both gone for, I think just under half of their goals. - Yeah, and to be fair, Gonzalo Garcia had a good start, but still, we'll see. - But still. - I feel for a friend, Stonewiser, Palace, because I think it was very exciting coming into it. And I think although the last day of the transfer window, kind of the mist on the mist down for Fana, but Azorio, I think, could be a really good signing for them. I know who we know from Syria, although it's weird deal because he's a Chelsea player, but not really a Chelsea player, he's on loan to Palace, but he's not really, anyway. I think it could be a really smart signing too. So he's quite got better, but there was a time where he thought, I've got no new signings. I will lose his Mila Saks. There was a point where I think they were convinced they will lose his Mila Saks. I still have Jean-Philippe Matetta, who we all love, you know, boom, boom, Matetta. But he's still there and he doesn't really want to be there. And you start from last time for 50 million, who is there thinking I'm going to be the starter, but he's not the starter. And when he plays, he looks completely disinterested. And if your PSS, you were so excited, it was your dream to come to England and the Premier League. And then, so I hope, and I really hope that that is right. I'm hoping Stonewise gets a win in this game, which increases the pressure on Arbelo. I'm sorry for them fans, but I want my PSS to do well. OK, I hope this is the turning point for Palace. I see. Malik Fafana was the player that Palace tried to hijack a deal for flying a private jet down to Leon Airport, and guessing. Yeah, but Sunderland had theirs there. That's right. What atmosphere must have been like between those two kind of flight crews, you think? If you're Palace and you send your private jet, you think like we have to send a better private jet than Sunderland. I don't know. Because if you're like Fafana, you walk on the tarmac, right? And you see this crappy 1970 private jet that you don't want to get in. And on the other hand, brand new, flashy private jet for Sunderland, and things like that. Yeah, I fancy this one more than this. Do you find the jet show in the Track My Flight website? Yes, you do. Yes, yes, yes. And you know, you opened the. I don't know if you've been, I've been. Oh, I've never been on a private show. I've never been on a private show. Oh, I'm inviting us, please. You know, I like that. But you opened the. So the little stairs open from like a. Yeah, yeah, you know, we've seen that. But you can see inside. So that's what I mean. Maybe Malik Fafana was like right-o-left. Let me see inside, that crew doesn't look great. Oh, that crew looks bad. Oh, inside is maybe, you know, it looks more comfy, I don't know. Because there was a point where he was not sure really what to do. And in the end, he. Can we name the agency now? He. Please turn to him, yeah? He's with Rock Nation. Right. Who have been really active over him in the summer. Although if Leonna qualified for the Champions League, I think they would have taken that money from the Champions League. The guarantee 25 million or so. And kept him for another season. But once they were knocked out by Fenerbahce, they had to let him go is the highest value in the squad. But Rock Nation has, for example, employed his uncle, who is a very influential figure for Malik Fafana, like a second dad, if you want. He's part of the Rock Nation agency as an agent. And he was very much driving these deals. And there's a point where I think Malik Fafana was really. I don't know where to go here, Alas or Sunderland. And let's say that the agency and the uncle helped massively on where destination to pick. OK. And what have Sunderland got then? Why were two clubs willing to send private jets down for Malik Fafana? Stability? He's a wonderful talent. And he's young. And he had a really bad ankle injury this time last year, more or less. And the numbers, if you're a Sunderland fan and you look at the numbers and you think, "Oh, that's not many goals and assets." Which I understand, it needs to improve on that. But the ceiling is so, so, so high. And I really thought he was going to pick Palace because PSA's coach Tim Allion, they have a great relationship. And he's then Regis Lebris was clearly very convincing. The agency, you know, how can I put it? We're very happy with the deal they were offered to. Let's put it that way. OK. And I think in the end, he's going to go to Sunderland, but I think there's one to watch because he could really flourish here in England. Wasn't he also having a one-point, having a medical, but he didn't know what club he was having a medical for? But they did a joint medical between them. So, you're an organiser, which I think is a smart idea to do. It's like, you gain time by doing that. And you're an organiser, the medical. What was funny at some point, he had the two managers kind of trying to call him in a way. So, like, one phone was PSA, another phone was Lebris. And yeah, so, let's see. I hope he doesn't. So, difficult when that happens, I find two of them. Have you been in this position before? I'm in, you're not. So, well, be interested, see how he gets on for Sunderland. And how Sunderland, he get on at Brentford, who have impressed so far this season. That's taking place at a three o'clock, as is the other clash of two German managers, which is Brighton against Leeds, Hutzler against Farger. And all so unsighted, but a little bit later on at T-Time, you got Hal Aston Villa. One of those two teams has had two victories, two clean sheets. The other one has had two defeats, and no goal scored. What, so whatever. No shots on target, even in these shots on target. Thank you, yes. That's that bad. Yeah, Hal against Aston Villa. What a curious way to come into this game. They're only the second Premier League team since 2003, not to have any shots on target in the first two managers. And I'm guessing that date is because that's when people started rising the numbers down. So potentially ever, the other one was Swansea in 2017. Phillip did spend 47 million pounds on PSG-Winger. He brought him and buy. Is it a good buy? It's a good and buy if you don't expect too much just now. He's 18, he's a kid. He wanted to play more in Paris, he felt-- He says, boy, it's Paris Bon Embrace. So he's very special to my heart. But it's a point where PSG were kind of getting ready to buy a barcola replacement, which they haven't found. So they were looking to January for that. But for him, by, he wanted to play more. His entourage wanted him to play more. And when you entourage, kind of cause, recently, you can say, why is my son not playing more? You start thinking, OK, maybe he's better for you if you go somewhere else. And just be part of the different project where there would be a proper project for him. Ruth and Rickie could not take on a project like him by a PSG, there was other things to do. I think Unai Emery can do that. And if the M-by project works out, he's a wonderful talent. Really, for his age group, 18, he's the best in his position. So he can play while. He can play centrally. He's strong, he's quick, he's good technically. The goal is called with San Diego against France of the World Cup, he's the one to go. That's why he's capable of. But he's still so young, that he would need a bit of time, I think, he's not ready right now to play, to start 25 games in the Premier League for us and Villa. That's not going to happen. He's not ready for that. But there's a great player there in the making. That was an amazing goal, that he scored. It was great. How much money does Premier League spend in Liga? This is some of them. It's going to be bankroll in the game. Yeah, absolutely. So I think in total, Liga is sold for one billion pound of players. I'm sure you can credit board, but we need the money [BLANK_AUDIO] Yes, you know, that's what clubs do. I think if I'm not mistaken, I think the Prem spends something like 600 million in Liga or something. In Liga. Yeah, in something crazy like that. 600 million. You are literally our bankers. Incredible. Alrighty. We'll see how it all plays out on match day three. Anything else you want to add about that we can approximate in that way? Just one final thing because I spoke to Igor Thiago, did I sit down with him? Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, how players are usually very political or very well behaved when they talk about individual prizes. When I spoke to him about the Golden Boot, then, you know, how much he thinks about that because he was so close with Holland and it's so hard to keep up with Holland, he was like, I am sure I'm going to get the Golden Boot eventually. I know it on the inside and it is a goal for me. So I always find it refreshing when players are more, you know, open about what they really want, especially when you're facing Holland in the run for the Golden Boot. Absolutely. It starts in so very season you go Thiago, you know, zero gold in two games. So, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh. Didn't we miss, Jules? I would. I'm sorry. Go, I love you. No, no. Jules couldn't help himself like after two minutes of conversation with me to mention Brazil in the World Cup. Brazil in the World Cup. Yeah. How about I was just wondering how you were feeling about missing out again? Well, instead of getting six put past them by England. Can you beat him here, I mean, I mean, at least you'd be better than Italy. Well, once you did, you know, well, we can sit here all day and banish about the World Cup, but you've got places to be. How many listeners? Let's wrap it up for today's totally football show Sunday night. We'll be back after the Arsenal Chelsea game to round up that and the rest of the weekend's action so far. As mentioned, it is live on YouTube if you want to join us or catch up with it afterwards. So, now many thanks Natalie for coming by. I love you to see you. And to you, Nick Miller, have you got any crazy on the road adventures lined up? Nothing particularly lined up at the moment, but my dispatch from, uh, from Trabson and the Camel that's available to read. Oh, okay. Fantastic. Very, very good. And lovely to have you back. Thank you for having me around. I'm happy. Always welcome. Always welcome. Catch up with you soon, listener for now from all of us here. It's goodbye.